According to the latest polls from the Labour party's own pollster, Labour has well and truly fallen -sitting at 31 per cent - it's lowest point since 2019.
National rose one point to 36 per cent, making it the first time National has been ahead of Labour by five points or more.
It is also the first time the centre-right has been ahead of the centre-left by five points or more since the 2017 election.
Political commentator Josie Pagani joined Mike Hosking to discuss the numbers.
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