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November 11, 2025 2 mins

It seemed like a thing, until it wasn’t. 

Guns are like fluoride and the MSM – they get people angsty. 

Out of the Christchurch mosque attack came the idea that gun law needed amending. The amending got another look when ACT came to power because they are libertarians and people with, broadly speaking, a common-sense view of the world. 

The idea that the more you restrict weaponry the less likely you are to have a massacre is, of course, nonsense. 

Like so many things the Ardern and Hipkins era was responsible for, real world policy for real world behaviour wasn’t one of them. 

Nutters get guns. The fact Brenton Tarrant got his legally didn't change the equation, and that’s before you get to the bit that this is not a country of hot-head crazies with a long list of violent massacres. 

It's true that we have a lot of guns per head of population. But that reflects our outdoors and rural lifestyles, as opposed to an American-type view of defending yourself. 

Anyway, Nicole McKee, straight from the gun side of the equation, was going to have a look and from that came the expectation that some sort of major liberalisation was coming. 

But it was not to be. Yesterday was more dabble than revolution. 

The fact McKee and ACT have invoked the agree to disagree is either a sign of political maturity, seething anger, or possibly both. 

If you listened to Mark Mitchell around the Police's role and the Firearm Safety Authority, National were never budging. 

There is some stuff there about 3D printing, which makes sense. But overall, it puts this whole exercise into the category of a review, not an overhaul. 

I personally never thought a loosening of access to these so-called "mass weapons" was a major, but I get a lot of people would have. 

In a way it’s a good example of the disconnect between the country and city. The city would be aghast because the city doesn’t use guns or get it. 

Most gun owners are regular people, burdened by the irregular thinking of the Arderns, who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other. 

McKee was from the other side of the argument but ultimately lost. 

So carry on then. The angst was wasted. Nothing to see here. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It seemed like a thing until it wasn't. Guns I

(00:03):
think are like flu ride, aren't they? Or masm? The
old masm gets people a bit angsty. Out of christ
Church came the idea that gun law needed amending. The
amending got another look when Act came to power, because
they are libertarians and people who broadly speaking, have a
common sense view of the world, and the idea that
the more you restrict weaponry, the less likely you are
to have a massacre is of course nonsense, and like
so many things that you'd earn Hepkin Zerra was responsible

(00:25):
for real world policy for real world behavior. Wasn't really
one of them nuts's get guns. The fact Tarrant got
his legally didn't change the equation. And that's before you
get to the bit this is not a country of
hot head crazies with the longlist of violent massacres. It
is true we have a lot of guns per head
of population, but that reflects our outdoors and rural lifestyles
as opposed to an American type view of defending yourself. Anyway,

(00:46):
Nicole McKee, straight from the gun side of the equation,
was going to have a look, and from that came
the expectation that some sort of major liberalization was coming,
but it was not to be. Yesterday was more, as
it turned out, a bit of a devil than a revolution.
And the fact McKee and act hav invoked agree to
disagree as either assign a political maturity or seething anger,
or possibly both. If you listen to Mark Mitchell around

(01:07):
the police's role and the Firearm Safety Authority National will
never budget. There is some stuff there about three D
printing which makes sense, but overall it puts this whole
exercise into the category of a review, not an overhaul.
I never thought personally listening of access to the so
called MSSA weapons was a major but I get a
lot of people would have in a way. It's a
good example of the disconnect I think really between the

(01:30):
country and the city. The city would be aghast those
sort of guns because the city doesn't use guns, or
get it, most gun own as a regular people burdened
by a regular thinking of the adourns who couldn't or
wouldn't know one end of a gun from another. McKee
was from the other side of the argument, but ultimately lost.
That's politics, so carry on. Then The angst was wasted,

(01:50):
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