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July 21, 2026 2 mins

I don’t blame Hipkins for having a crack, but tell him he's dreaming. 

Having closed, or at least announced they are closing off, the absurd deals between local councils and Māori, once they get the new RMA laws up Hipkins suggests that this will lead to a lot of renegotiation of Treaty settlements. 

It will do no such thing. 

You know why? Because it might just be that this Government has had enough of court interference of Māori issues, and the Mike Smith mess might just have been the final straw. 

I would like to think the interventionist nonsense from the Waitangi Tribunal was the final straw. But the Government seem happy enough to continue to foot that bill, while ignoring pretty much everything they say. 

The really important bit of the Hipkins intervention is that he has not explicitly said they will reinstate said council deals. 

Why would he not have said that? 

Could it possibly be because he too realises that the whole Māorification of this country has gotten wildly out of control, and not even he can bring himself to buy the inevitable fight that would be required in an election campaign if it was him vs Luxon, and one had killed said deals and one was left to defend the indefensible. 

The headache Hipkins doesn’t need of course, is they aren't his deals. It's the councils that should be called out and held to account. It’s the councils who are taking the proverbial. 

That is not to say the Māori caucus won't get to Hipkins. But for now, at least, he takes what most middle-of-the-road New Zealanders would perceive as a moderate, sensible stance. 

And it's exactly those sorts of stances that win elections. Elections are won in the centre and the Māorification of the country is nowhere near the centre, a place the Labour Party once stood fairly solidly and fairly successfully. 

Yes, the original Treaty deals have clauses for renegotiation, but they are more about income than local-level dabbling. 

If any council or iwi want to dabble in a court the court should be ignored. 

You get the sense that like a lot of ideas not well thought through, any original goodwill was well and truly shot to bits as councils and local Māori, to put it bluntly, took the piss. 

Well that game, thank goodness, is up.     

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The mic asking breakfast six and nine weekdays, unused talks.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
IVY you know there. You know what. I don't blame
Hipkins for having a crack, but tell them, as they
said in the Castle, tell them he's dreaming having closed,
or at least announced, they are closing off the absurd
deals between local councils and Murray once they get the
new Rama laws up. Hipkins suggested that this would lead
to a lot of renegotiation of treaty settlements. I can

(00:24):
tell you it will do no such thing. You know why,
because it might just be that this government has had
enough of court interference of Murray issues and the Mike
Smith mess might just have been the final straw. I
would like to think personally the intervention is nonsense from
the Waitangi tribunal was the final straw. But this government
seems happy enough to continue to put that bill while
ignoring pretty much everything they say. The really important bit

(00:46):
of the Hipkins intervention is that he has not explicitly
said they will reinstate said council deals. Now why would
he have said that? Could it possibly be because he
too realizes that the whole verification of this country has
got wild out of control, and not even he can
bring himself to buy the inevitable fight that would be
required in an election campaign if it was him v.

(01:07):
Luxen and one had killed said deals and the other
one was left to defend the indefensible. The headache Hipkins
doesn't need, of course, is that they are not deals.
It's the council's, not his deals. They're the council deals,
and the councils should be the ones being called out
and held to account. It's the councils who are taking
the proverbial that is not to say his Maray Caucus.
I guess won't get to Hipkins eventually, but for now

(01:28):
at least he takes what most middle of the road
New Zealanders would perceive as a moderate, sensible stance. And
it's exactly those sort of stances that when elections, of course,
and I think he knows that deep down, elections are
one in the center, and the moraification of New Zealand
is nowhere near the center, a place the Labour Party,
by the way, once stood fairly solidly and fairly successfully.

(01:48):
The original treaty deals he refers to. Yes, they do
have clauses for renegotiation, but they're more about income than
local level dabbling by councils, and of any council or,
E we want to dabble in a court, the court
should be basically ignored. You get the sense that, like
a lot of ideas not well thought through, that any
original goodwill here was well and truly shot the bits
as counsels a local mari. To put it, Ruby bluntly

(02:10):
took the piss while that game thank Goodness is up
the

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Mike asking breakfast six to nine weekdays, unused talks it
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