Chaotic scenes in Australia as three women linked to Islamic State return home to face crimes against humanity and terror charges.
The women travelled with their partners to the Middle East more than a decade ago, and they say they wanted to come home for their Australian children.
They may face court as early as today.
Australian Correspondent Murray Olds told Mike Hosking a scuffle broke out at Melbourne Airport last night involving men wearing masks waiting for the women.
He says their children face a tough time readjusting, as they will have seen things no child should ever see.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Murray olds Is let to tell you man, very good morning, Michael,
pretty good after a busy week over here.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I reckon what I didn't realize? They're arriving in both
Sydney and Melbourne. But the four women, nine children, How
many got banged up, how many got arrested, how many
charges have been laid? Where are they now and what
happens next?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right? Okay? There were four women and nine children. Came
back in Melbourne. There were three women. It's understood that's
a mother in her fifties and two daughters in their thirties,
along with their kids. In Sydney. One woman arrived back
with one child. The Sydney woman has been charged with
terror related defenses. She went to Syria with her Isis
(00:44):
husband in twenty fifteen. In Melbourne, it's alleged that two
Yazidi women were kept as slaves in Syria by this family.
The brother and son of the family died fighting for Isis.
The women all came home and two of the three,
the mother in her fifties and one of her daughters,
(01:06):
had been charged with the crimes against humanity i e.
Slavery and also I think in terms of terrorism charges
one of the two. Also the fourth woman was not
a charge at all at this point. But man, it
was chaos. It was like a movie at the airport,
all these big guys in black suits and media bumping
into each other and falling over and shouting. Ah. It
(01:30):
was chaos. But look, the women have told the ABC
over here we wanted to come home for our children.
Now they can throw the book at us and we'll
stand up in court and if we're convicted, will take punishment.
But we did want our Australian children to come back
to Australia.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How much angst is there and how much? Because I
was watching a news conference with Elbow this week and
somebody suggested there's two million dollars a year to follow
these people around. If they don't end up in jail,
who's paying that for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But let's see, that's just been there's so much bs
around all this. It's not as say this is the
first time it's happened. Families came home from Isis under
Scott Morrison. Families have come home from Isis under Alban
Easy and not a peep's been heard out of these people.
They've just vanished into the community. The kids are going
to school, growing up, being like normal kids. If it's
(02:19):
remotely possible they can be normal, normal like. So it's
being weaponized, it's being politicized in a way that perhaps
it wasn't previously. I mean, they came home with no
fuss under Morrison and they've come home with no fuss
under Alban easy. Just the change political circumstances over here
with Pauline Hanson on the rise and howling about immigrants
and how dreadful it all is. That's where these kids
(02:41):
are caught up. And it's going to be expensive, there's
no doubt about that. Keeping these children on the straight
and narrow. There's all sorts of rehab programs for the
kids because they will have seen things. Mike, you and
I both know that they'll have seen stuff, but no
charge have ever.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Seen you count pick your pearances. The problem is all
of this something the general you know, immigrant thing. I mean,
what do you reckons get going to happen in Farah tomorrow?
Because I'm fascinated by Parah, because it's this is the
big test. Lower House one Nation? Are you real or
are you not? And that's what we're looking to see happening,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh man, It's like the game of thrones. There are
so many moving parts you don't know who's up over
the rent. You've got David Farley who is the one
Nation candidate. He does have his nose in front, and
the Poles are tipping a one nation victory, particularly on
the back of preferences that put the preference deal with
the Coalition. But Farley's got a check at history. He
(03:35):
has come out, for example, and he's also opposing some
of Pauline Hanson's policies. The check at history will he
was once trailing his coat to be a Labor Party MP. Well,
they didn't know that apparently when they picked him. He's very,
very experienced, a agg businessman with a national profile, but
he recognizes down in a seat like Pharaoh. They produced
(03:58):
most of Australia's fruit. Who's going to pick it without
migrants coming here? No one. It's like in America. They're
trying to get rid of all the people who clean
the pools and clean the homes of all the wealthy people.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Tell you what's interesting about this is if because preferencing
is going to do the men I think, isn't it
that they may well win on primary but preferencing will
do the men wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well. You see, here's the thing. The Coalition under Angus
Taylor is preferencing one nation ahead of the Independent, for
example Michelle Milthorpe, who did a very good job last
time out. So on the back of those, I mean,
and here that's the contradiction Angus Taylor and the opposition.
They don't know which way to turn because they're being
(04:40):
outflanked on the right by Pauline Hanson. She's further right
than the coalition wants to be up in Queens. Then
you've got Matt Canavan. I'm sure you've been watching Canavan.
He's a very strong young man, young performer, but he
absolutely looks down the camera and just tells it straight.
People are and the polls are turning against Hanson. I
(05:00):
think we've seen Pete Pauline. They may win tomorrow, they
may win tomorrow, but you're not going to see her feature.
I mean, there are people out there in Australia except
Pauline for Prime minister. Please, what are you talking about him?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But here's the really interesting thing. What happens if Farley
doesn't win and they don't win because Farley was the
weak link. They didn't put a really gun ho candidate
was one nation all the way as opposed to this
flake that he is, and that was their big moment
and they.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Blew it well. I mean it remains to be seen.
I mean, look, he's a very impressive candidate. He's just
got all this package stuff that's trailing along behind him.
He is a good performer, looks good on Telly. You know,
he talks the talk. He has spent his life in
boardrooms and in businesses shaping Australia's agricultural policies. I mean,
(05:51):
he's that important in terms of a business in Australia.
But he is, as you say, he is potentially a
fatally flawed and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This policy yesterday I got to move on. But the
gas thing yesterday, where you've got to keep a chunk
of it aside for local consumption, I'm assuming politically it
plays well, But how do you if I'm selling gas,
I'm selling it to the highest bidder, and if it
happens to be in Japan, that's life. So how do
you square that circle.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right they're going to There are three producers here in Australia.
There's Origin. Why there's origin, There's one run by Shell
and the third ones operated by Santos. The first two
extract and produce their own gas instead of off sure
Santos buys gas from the other two to fulfill its
(06:41):
export contracts. This is where the government's coming in because
what Santos has been doing is buying gas that otherwise
would be sold in the domestic market. Australia's running out
of domestically produced gas in current fields that are being
explored x that are being exploited, thank you, not explored, exploited,
(07:05):
so that they need new gas reserves to come on stream.
These three big companies have been exporting gas overseas. Only
in Western Australia have they been forced to reserve fifteen percent.
Look at the West Australian economy. It's gone through the roof.
Now they're squealing here, oh you can't make us do that, Well, yes,
we bloody well can. It's Australian gas owned by Australian
(07:25):
people and we are running out of gas on the
East coast of Australia. What this policy will do is
force for example, Santos it won't be able to buy
gas from the other two competitors here in Australia. That
gas will have to be kept here so they can
go and sort themselves out. What that will do was
force down prices on the East Coast of Australia where
most of the market is. They don't like that, obviously,
(07:48):
but consumers will love that. Businesses that rely on gas,
homes that rely on gas. It's not right. And I
tell you who's been absolutely prosecuting as brilliantly is that
Independent Senator David Remember po co Hocky was the Wallaby
number eight, so he is in the center doing the
same thing that he did to the All Blacks on
many occasions.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Running over the top city on Nice Nice to talk
to you. You have a good weekend, Man Murray Old
Side of Australia this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
News Talks.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Murray olds Is let to tell you man, very good morning, Michael,
pretty good after a busy week over here.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I reckon what I didn't realize? They're arriving in both
Sydney and Melbourne. But the four women, nine children, How
many got banged up, how many got arrested, how many
charges have been laid? Where are they now and what
happens next?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right? Okay? There were four women and nine children. Came
back in Melbourne. There were three women. It's understood that's
a mother in her fifties and two daughters in their thirties,
along with their kids. In Sydney. One woman arrived back
with one child. The Sydney woman has been charged with
terror related defenses. She went to Syria with her Isis
(00:44):
husband in twenty fifteen. In Melbourne, it's alleged that two
Yazidi women were kept as slaves in Syria by this family.
The brother and son of the family died fighting for Isis.
The women all came home and two of the three,
the mother in her fifties and one of her daughters,
(01:06):
had been charged with the crimes against humanity i e.
Slavery and also I think in terms of terrorism charges
one of the two. Also the fourth woman was not
a charge at all at this point. But man, it
was chaos. It was like a movie at the airport,
all these big guys in black suits and media bumping
into each other and falling over and shouting. Ah. It
(01:30):
was chaos. But look, the women have told the ABC
over here we wanted to come home for our children.
Now they can throw the book at us and we'll
stand up in court and if we're convicted, will take punishment.
But we did want our Australian children to come back
to Australia.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How much angst is there and how much? Because I
was watching a news conference with Elbow this week and
somebody suggested there's two million dollars a year to follow
these people around. If they don't end up in jail,
who's paying that for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But let's see, that's just been there's so much bs
around all this. It's not as say this is the
first time it's happened. Families came home from Isis under
Scott Morrison. Families have come home from Isis under Alban
Easy and not a peep's been heard out of these people.
They've just vanished into the community. The kids are going
to school, growing up, being like normal kids. If it's
(02:19):
remotely possible they can be normal, normal like. So it's
being weaponized, it's being politicized in a way that perhaps
it wasn't previously. I mean, they came home with no
fuss under Morrison and they've come home with no fuss
under Alban easy. Just the change political circumstances over here
with Pauline Hanson on the rise and howling about immigrants
and how dreadful it all is. That's where these kids
(02:41):
are caught up. And it's going to be expensive, there's
no doubt about that. Keeping these children on the straight
and narrow. There's all sorts of rehab programs for the
kids because they will have seen things. Mike, you and
I both know that they'll have seen stuff, but no
charge have ever.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Seen you count pick your pearances. The problem is all
of this something the general you know, immigrant thing. I mean,
what do you reckons get going to happen in Farah tomorrow?
Because I'm fascinated by Parah, because it's this is the
big test. Lower House one Nation? Are you real or
are you not? And that's what we're looking to see happening,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh man, It's like the game of thrones. There are
so many moving parts you don't know who's up over
the rent. You've got David Farley who is the one
Nation candidate. He does have his nose in front, and
the Poles are tipping a one nation victory, particularly on
the back of preferences that put the preference deal with
the Coalition. But Farley's got a check at history. He
(03:35):
has come out, for example, and he's also opposing some
of Pauline Hanson's policies. The check at history will he
was once trailing his coat to be a Labor Party MP. Well,
they didn't know that apparently when they picked him. He's very,
very experienced, a agg businessman with a national profile, but
he recognizes down in a seat like Pharaoh. They produced
(03:58):
most of Australia's fruit. Who's going to pick it without
migrants coming here? No one. It's like in America. They're
trying to get rid of all the people who clean
the pools and clean the homes of all the wealthy people.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Tell you what's interesting about this is if because preferencing
is going to do the men I think, isn't it
that they may well win on primary but preferencing will
do the men wanted.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well. You see, here's the thing. The Coalition under Angus
Taylor is preferencing one nation ahead of the Independent, for
example Michelle Milthorpe, who did a very good job last
time out. So on the back of those, I mean,
and here that's the contradiction Angus Taylor and the opposition.
They don't know which way to turn because they're being
(04:40):
outflanked on the right by Pauline Hanson. She's further right
than the coalition wants to be up in Queens. Then
you've got Matt Canavan. I'm sure you've been watching Canavan.
He's a very strong young man, young performer, but he
absolutely looks down the camera and just tells it straight.
People are and the polls are turning against Hanson. I
(05:00):
think we've seen Pete Pauline. They may win tomorrow, they
may win tomorrow, but you're not going to see her feature.
I mean, there are people out there in Australia except
Pauline for Prime minister. Please, what are you talking about him?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But here's the really interesting thing. What happens if Farley
doesn't win and they don't win because Farley was the
weak link. They didn't put a really gun ho candidate
was one nation all the way as opposed to this
flake that he is, and that was their big moment
and they.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Blew it well. I mean it remains to be seen.
I mean, look, he's a very impressive candidate. He's just
got all this package stuff that's trailing along behind him.
He is a good performer, looks good on Telly. You know,
he talks the talk. He has spent his life in
boardrooms and in businesses shaping Australia's agricultural policies. I mean,
(05:51):
he's that important in terms of a business in Australia.
But he is, as you say, he is potentially a
fatally flawed and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This policy yesterday I got to move on. But the
gas thing yesterday, where you've got to keep a chunk
of it aside for local consumption, I'm assuming politically it
plays well, But how do you if I'm selling gas,
I'm selling it to the highest bidder, and if it
happens to be in Japan, that's life. So how do
you square that circle.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right they're going to There are three producers here in Australia.
There's Origin. Why there's origin, There's one run by Shell
and the third ones operated by Santos. The first two
extract and produce their own gas instead of off sure
Santos buys gas from the other two to fulfill its
(06:41):
export contracts. This is where the government's coming in because
what Santos has been doing is buying gas that otherwise
would be sold in the domestic market. Australia's running out
of domestically produced gas in current fields that are being
explored x that are being exploited, thank you, not explored, exploited,
(07:05):
so that they need new gas reserves to come on stream.
These three big companies have been exporting gas overseas. Only
in Western Australia have they been forced to reserve fifteen percent.
Look at the West Australian economy. It's gone through the roof.
Now they're squealing here, oh you can't make us do that, Well, yes,
we bloody well can. It's Australian gas owned by Australian
(07:25):
people and we are running out of gas on the
East coast of Australia. What this policy will do is
force for example, Santos it won't be able to buy
gas from the other two competitors here in Australia. That
gas will have to be kept here so they can
go and sort themselves out. What that will do was
force down prices on the East Coast of Australia where
most of the market is. They don't like that, obviously,
(07:48):
but consumers will love that. Businesses that rely on gas,
homes that rely on gas. It's not right. And I
tell you who's been absolutely prosecuting as brilliantly is that
Independent Senator David Remember po co Hocky was the Wallaby
number eight, so he is in the center doing the
same thing that he did to the All Blacks on
many occasions.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Running over the top city on Nice Nice to talk
to you. You have a good weekend, Man Murray Old
Side of Australia this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
News Talks.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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