Today on Politics Wednesday Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen joined Mike Hosking to delve into some of the biggest stories of the week thus far.
ACT has announced Paul Henry as a candidate in this year’s election – do they have any advice for the former broadcaster?
And the Opportunity Party’s popularity has been growing – do they have a shot at making it into government this year?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time for politics Wednesday, and Mark Mitchell is with us
along with Jinny Anderson. Morning to both of you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Morning, Mike, morning, Jenny, mind you both.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ye he's told Now Now, Jinny, I detect, I detect
a hint of something in your voice.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
There, no, no, just you know. I'm just reminiscing on
my journey from out beast of my parents' house in
the taxi to your studio with a bottle of wine.
When I got that call saying to turn the taxi
around and go back to my house. That's what I
was thinking about that super Now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mark, you've turned up. It is your fault, so you
need to may a copper.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, mere copper. So I was told we're going to
delay for a week, but obviously the missas didn't get through.
So Ginny, you apologized for that, right, but we will
reconvene in the studio again. Don't worry about it. You're
not going to miss.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think there's like a little boy conspiracy going on here,
a little little cind of Mason's handshake and a nod
in a wink.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
No, I can assure you there is no conspiracy. Now listen,
let me get some advice from you. Mark you first,
Paul Henry, so he will be potentially if you guys
get re elected, he'll be jettisoned and most likely into
cabinet straight away. So a bloke who's never been in
politics will potentially end up in cabinet.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Your advice is what, Yeah, I think that. Look, I
mean he's got lots of life experience. Look the bait
about it democracy in New Zealand, anyone can ever go yah,
and that's a good thing. It's helpful. I think that
you should prt some life experience when you become a
law maker because you've got to understand the impacts and
the effects that you have in people when you change laws,
and life experience helps you be equipped with that. You know,
(01:40):
it's not We have had people come into cabinet, you know.
Casey Costello is a good example, Stephen Joyce who was outstanding.
He went straight into cabinet. So it does happen. Karen Shaw,
Karen Shaw, Yes, I think she's a ministry outside cabinet.
But you know, well, yeah, but she's.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well the reason I'm asking is the workload. Does he
have any idea of what he's in for?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think that you need to you'll learn very quickly
exactly what's involved with the workload. It's a huge privilege
to be a minister. You go into politics to be
in government so that you can make positive change for
the country, but the reality is at seven days a
week and you just accept that and get on with it.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What do you say, Ginny, i'd they read all of
your cabinet papers, not just the ones that pertain to
your portfolios. I think that makes a real difference between
a cabinet minister because there's so much reading to do.
If you really want to go as he sees and
make a difference and get in there, that's a huge opportunity.
But you get the opportunity to comment and have influence
over all of those papers at cabinet, not just the
(02:40):
ones that you bring, And if you invest the time
to understand what they're proposing, then you get a whole
lot more opportunity than what you would if you just
did your own.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
See that's the encouraging thing about that. That's just a
basic discipline. Reading is something anybody can do. What about
the massinations and the inner workings of a political environment
when you've never been in it, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Think that's going to be tricky to navigate for him,
and I think always when someone had a really high
profile outside of outside of parliament and then comes into it,
they do struggle a little bit. So I think that
will be the big challenge for him to be able
to show some discipline within his party, because it's those
relationships with your own colleagues and with your own leader
(03:20):
that are critically important to your success.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What about the way you get into your party? If
I join your party tomorrow, Mark and I go to
Luxon and I go, look, I'll get into politics, but
you've got to give me a decent spot on the list.
I'm not standing in an electorate and I need a
cabinet place. Is that possible within your party or do
you have a series of rules and regulations?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I mean if you're if you're expressly an interest
and we can find now, I think that would be
very popular.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's it's just an interesting way that act operate, doesn't
it's the board take you. You're on the list, bang your.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
One hundred percent. And so every party's got a list
and every party will try to bring if they see
a gap and experience that they want and they think
they need in government, then they can use the party
list to do that. But outside of that, there's a
very robust process that happens to the National Party where
people have to put themselves up. They have to convince
delegates and delegates and normally members have been members of
the party for a long time and heavily invested in
(04:15):
the governments of the country, and it's not easy to
become a national Party candidate.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's hard, and same with you, Ginny, Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean we have on the ones I can think
of as someone as Margaret Wilson. She was part of
presidentcers but then she went straight to cabinet. But we
know there is a process where it's regress and I
think it's got more regress as times got by and
as people have a history on social media that needs
to be checked and seeing what you've said and done.
So there's a big process to be in that position.
But of course, if someone represents a community really strongly
(04:46):
and that's an asset to the party and growing the
party wrote vote, then that's taken into account.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And what about the celebrity side of it, Mark in
that sense, do you think that being a name? Tane
Randall's another one, Michael laws is another one, Paul Henry's
the current one. Does it make any difference at all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
On the margins? Maybe, but no, fundamentally, I don't. I
think that most quis actually sit down and have a
serious look and decide who's going to be the best
person to represent us. I mean, you know, especially for
a literally and p I'm not trying to diminish the
role that LISTI INPs have. They have a role to
play without a doubt, but when you're literally in, people
need to look and say, are you going to actually
seriously represent us and advance our needs as an electate?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So what about you, Jinny? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think someone who's got profile. New Zealand a small
place and we don't need a huge amount of people
who are well known. So I kind of think that
having a public profile before you go in helps is
an extra factor that gives you a bit of a list.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That would be a classic example of that. I mean,
any any old has been can turn up on a council.
I mean, if you've got a profiles.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
To be a bit rough. But if yes, if you've
got a public profile or you've been on TV before,
your chances are being elected a much higher and I
think to what's interesting is that we've seen quite a
lot of that the selection from some of the smaller parties,
that there's been a bit more of a tendency, I
would say, then previously of actually head hunting or getting
(06:11):
new candidates who already has public profile.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
The Opportunities Party, Ginny, five percent or no, I don't
think we've done this, and I think I've been meaning
to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Five percent or no.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Unlikely but not impossible.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, that's probably true.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What do you say, mate, it's just very hard to
reach that five percent three shot. You know it's showing
that if you get a literate seat then yes, you
know it doesn't matter so much, you don't need it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But have you talked, Ginny within the party of a
deal in Mount Albert. No, we have not done that,
fear enough only would you know if you had.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Maybe, but I don't think we have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, because that's the way in for the Opportunities Party
if you wanted to co a less with them, isn't
it give the giver Mount Albert she's and then say
you get three percent, she wins the seat. The three
percent maybe two or three seats there in the Parliament.
You've got two or three to add to your maybe
one or two for the Maray Party and whatever Green's
ad up and then bang your government.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yes, but then soution toy is that they could go
with each side.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So you believe that, do you believe?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Say that?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, that's what the leader see so.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That we I mean, what what part of land tax
and universal and speaks it speaks to a coalition with
the Actor and the National Party?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is it the at least Galloway running the show, an
ex slaver minister whose wife they people keep texting me,
excuse me, is Hipkins partner in the Opportunities Party?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't think so?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Know, Okay, So that's just an urban myth.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I just love the no.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I just suddenly this is this is a spur of
the moment radio program. It just suddenly came back to me.
So is Hipkins's partner in the Opportunities Party?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You don't think she thinks?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I really don't think she has.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So there was speculation that that she was partners with
or yeah, business partners with.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So she's got a business well.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
With in these Galloway. Yes, So Hipkin's.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Partner has a business with Ian Lee's gallop. That's what's
been So that's not true. Genny says, that's not true.
Mark says, that's what's been reported. It could be an
how hard.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Mark, Mark?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Mark made that up? So sorry, Mark?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Where were you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So it's hard to get five percent? Would you do
a deal in an in an electorate in that sense?
I mean you've done it with Seymour for example. So
would you look to Mount Albert and go, you know,
welcome in Joel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean again, that's you know that that is a
that's a decision for the Labor Party. So yes, we
did it with that. I think it was back when
I first came back from overseas. I remember it pretty
clearly because I remember the teapot tapes and the huh
and I spent two years, Yeah, delivering the regional elections
here and over there. I just put roadside bombs and
(09:01):
blew each other up. But you know, I came back
and we had the teapot tapes going. I thought, wow,
we live in paradise before we can talk about as
a teapot.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
We've never typically done we've never typically done deals, because
that's what they did as well. I still know how
to you in my first election in twenty fourteen where
I've got Peter done there in the national candidate which
even say his name. I can get up at debates
and he would just say hi. Everybody wouldn't say his name,
but no one knew to vote for, which was amusing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'll watch it. I'm quite curious to see how count
vinface goes in the UK election.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, that's your Byo election with Nigel Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Mark about the list? So the list is interesting and
a hurry once again, it just reminded me. So Nicola
is not standing in a hurry. No, she's on the list.
There is no hurry now, no, no, sorry, but I'm
just going back in time. But whatever a hurry is now,
So she's not standing. She'll presumably be number two or
whatever on the list. If you win enough electrics. There
is no list.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, well, the list us'll get sort out by the party.
We have a listen, No, no, I know that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But if you win enough electorates you won't go to
the list because you'll have that. You'll have say you
win thirty six electorates, you won't need to go to
the list because you've got to have your thirty six
and if you're only entitled to thirty six seats, there's
no list.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well that's I mean, that's crystal ball stuff. But at
the end of the day we'll be running a very
very strong and hard party vote campaign because at the
end of the day, if you want a strong center
right government, then you need to give your party vote
to National.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, hold on, I think Paul Henry just told me
that before. He said, if you want to strong vote,
I'm getting mixed messages.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Here will be there, Antic Act will be there, You
Silla First will be there. But if you want a strong, stable,
center right government, then party vote National, Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In these Galloway has taken up a temporary role as
lead organizer for the New Zealand Nurses Organization, the unit
he worked out before becoming a politician. Started a business
venture called Here's Good. The venture, which he founded with
Tony Grace, has made it to the final of the
Innovative Startup Business competition. So there you games, we'll get
on them.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, it's the story.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Not quite a scandal, jinny. Now we'll put that one
to bed. Nice to see both of you go well
and apologies once again, Jinny for the come on, I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Think it's more I'm looking for wild flowers wine.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well you here that that might this morning?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh yeah, you came in with gifts. We can all
go spearfishing. You want to come spear fishing with us, Jinny.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You put me in the water with your Mark. That's
a great idea.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Nice to talk to you, Jimmy Anderson Mark. Nice to
see you as well. And you brought your winners in too,
which was nice to meet them. So they had a
there that they seem they seem happy with proceedings.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So absolutely they worked all well. Have you brought them
so many food and you've taken them out for breakfast?
Oh then you getakast all right? The huge fans of
yours so huge to be able to come into the
studio see how it all goes. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They're lovely people. Nice to see politics Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Back next Wednesday for more from the Mike Asking Breakfast.
Listen live to news Talks. It'd be from six am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on I on Radio.
Time for politics Wednesday, and Mark Mitchell is with us
along with Jinny Anderson. Morning to both of you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Morning, Mike, morning, Jenny, mind you both.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ye he's told Now Now, Jinny, I detect, I detect
a hint of something in your voice.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
There, no, no, just you know. I'm just reminiscing on
my journey from out beast of my parents' house in
the taxi to your studio with a bottle of wine.
When I got that call saying to turn the taxi
around and go back to my house. That's what I
was thinking about that super Now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mark, you've turned up. It is your fault, so you
need to may a copper.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, mere copper. So I was told we're going to
delay for a week, but obviously the missas didn't get through.
So Ginny, you apologized for that, right, but we will
reconvene in the studio again. Don't worry about it. You're
not going to miss.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think there's like a little boy conspiracy going on here,
a little little cind of Mason's handshake and a nod
in a wink.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
No, I can assure you there is no conspiracy. Now listen,
let me get some advice from you. Mark you first,
Paul Henry, so he will be potentially if you guys
get re elected, he'll be jettisoned and most likely into
cabinet straight away. So a bloke who's never been in
politics will potentially end up in cabinet.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Your advice is what, Yeah, I think that. Look, I
mean he's got lots of life experience. Look the bait
about it democracy in New Zealand, anyone can ever go yah,
and that's a good thing. It's helpful. I think that
you should prt some life experience when you become a
law maker because you've got to understand the impacts and
the effects that you have in people when you change laws,
and life experience helps you be equipped with that. You know,
(01:40):
it's not We have had people come into cabinet, you know.
Casey Costello is a good example, Stephen Joyce who was outstanding.
He went straight into cabinet. So it does happen. Karen Shaw,
Karen Shaw, Yes, I think she's a ministry outside cabinet.
But you know, well, yeah, but she's.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well the reason I'm asking is the workload. Does he
have any idea of what he's in for?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think that you need to you'll learn very quickly
exactly what's involved with the workload. It's a huge privilege
to be a minister. You go into politics to be
in government so that you can make positive change for
the country, but the reality is at seven days a
week and you just accept that and get on with it.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What do you say, Ginny, i'd they read all of
your cabinet papers, not just the ones that pertain to
your portfolios. I think that makes a real difference between
a cabinet minister because there's so much reading to do.
If you really want to go as he sees and
make a difference and get in there, that's a huge opportunity.
But you get the opportunity to comment and have influence
over all of those papers at cabinet, not just the
(02:40):
ones that you bring, And if you invest the time
to understand what they're proposing, then you get a whole
lot more opportunity than what you would if you just
did your own.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
See that's the encouraging thing about that. That's just a
basic discipline. Reading is something anybody can do. What about
the massinations and the inner workings of a political environment
when you've never been in it, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Think that's going to be tricky to navigate for him,
and I think always when someone had a really high
profile outside of outside of parliament and then comes into it,
they do struggle a little bit. So I think that
will be the big challenge for him to be able
to show some discipline within his party, because it's those
relationships with your own colleagues and with your own leader
(03:20):
that are critically important to your success.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What about the way you get into your party? If
I join your party tomorrow, Mark and I go to
Luxon and I go, look, I'll get into politics, but
you've got to give me a decent spot on the list.
I'm not standing in an electorate and I need a
cabinet place. Is that possible within your party or do
you have a series of rules and regulations?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I mean if you're if you're expressly an interest
and we can find now, I think that would be
very popular.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's it's just an interesting way that act operate, doesn't
it's the board take you. You're on the list, bang your.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
One hundred percent. And so every party's got a list
and every party will try to bring if they see
a gap and experience that they want and they think
they need in government, then they can use the party
list to do that. But outside of that, there's a
very robust process that happens to the National Party where
people have to put themselves up. They have to convince
delegates and delegates and normally members have been members of
the party for a long time and heavily invested in
(04:15):
the governments of the country, and it's not easy to
become a national Party candidate.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's hard, and same with you, Ginny, Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean we have on the ones I can think
of as someone as Margaret Wilson. She was part of
presidentcers but then she went straight to cabinet. But we
know there is a process where it's regress and I
think it's got more regress as times got by and
as people have a history on social media that needs
to be checked and seeing what you've said and done.
So there's a big process to be in that position.
But of course, if someone represents a community really strongly
(04:46):
and that's an asset to the party and growing the
party wrote vote, then that's taken into account.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And what about the celebrity side of it, Mark in
that sense, do you think that being a name? Tane
Randall's another one, Michael laws is another one, Paul Henry's
the current one. Does it make any difference at all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
On the margins? Maybe, but no, fundamentally, I don't. I
think that most quis actually sit down and have a
serious look and decide who's going to be the best
person to represent us. I mean, you know, especially for
a literally and p I'm not trying to diminish the
role that LISTI INPs have. They have a role to
play without a doubt, but when you're literally in, people
need to look and say, are you going to actually
seriously represent us and advance our needs as an electate?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So what about you, Jinny? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think someone who's got profile. New Zealand a small
place and we don't need a huge amount of people
who are well known. So I kind of think that
having a public profile before you go in helps is
an extra factor that gives you a bit of a list.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That would be a classic example of that. I mean,
any any old has been can turn up on a council.
I mean, if you've got a profiles.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
To be a bit rough. But if yes, if you've
got a public profile or you've been on TV before,
your chances are being elected a much higher and I
think to what's interesting is that we've seen quite a
lot of that the selection from some of the smaller parties,
that there's been a bit more of a tendency, I
would say, then previously of actually head hunting or getting
(06:11):
new candidates who already has public profile.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
The Opportunities Party, Ginny, five percent or no, I don't
think we've done this, and I think I've been meaning
to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Five percent or no.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Unlikely but not impossible.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, that's probably true.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What do you say, mate, it's just very hard to
reach that five percent three shot. You know it's showing
that if you get a literate seat then yes, you
know it doesn't matter so much, you don't need it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But have you talked, Ginny within the party of a
deal in Mount Albert. No, we have not done that,
fear enough only would you know if you had.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Maybe, but I don't think we have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, because that's the way in for the Opportunities Party
if you wanted to co a less with them, isn't
it give the giver Mount Albert she's and then say
you get three percent, she wins the seat. The three
percent maybe two or three seats there in the Parliament.
You've got two or three to add to your maybe
one or two for the Maray Party and whatever Green's
ad up and then bang your government.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yes, but then soution toy is that they could go
with each side.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So you believe that, do you believe?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Say that?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, that's what the leader see so.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That we I mean, what what part of land tax
and universal and speaks it speaks to a coalition with
the Actor and the National Party?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is it the at least Galloway running the show, an
ex slaver minister whose wife they people keep texting me,
excuse me, is Hipkins partner in the Opportunities Party?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't think so?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Know, Okay, So that's just an urban myth.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I just love the no.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I just suddenly this is this is a spur of
the moment radio program. It just suddenly came back to me.
So is Hipkins's partner in the Opportunities Party?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You don't think she thinks?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I really don't think she has.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So there was speculation that that she was partners with
or yeah, business partners with.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So she's got a business well.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
With in these Galloway. Yes, So Hipkin's.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Partner has a business with Ian Lee's gallop. That's what's
been So that's not true. Genny says, that's not true.
Mark says, that's what's been reported. It could be an
how hard.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Mark, Mark?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Mark made that up? So sorry, Mark?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Where were you?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So it's hard to get five percent? Would you do
a deal in an in an electorate in that sense?
I mean you've done it with Seymour for example. So
would you look to Mount Albert and go, you know,
welcome in Joel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean again, that's you know that that is a
that's a decision for the Labor Party. So yes, we
did it with that. I think it was back when
I first came back from overseas. I remember it pretty
clearly because I remember the teapot tapes and the huh
and I spent two years, Yeah, delivering the regional elections
here and over there. I just put roadside bombs and
(09:01):
blew each other up. But you know, I came back
and we had the teapot tapes going. I thought, wow,
we live in paradise before we can talk about as
a teapot.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
We've never typically done we've never typically done deals, because
that's what they did as well. I still know how
to you in my first election in twenty fourteen where
I've got Peter done there in the national candidate which
even say his name. I can get up at debates
and he would just say hi. Everybody wouldn't say his name,
but no one knew to vote for, which was amusing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'll watch it. I'm quite curious to see how count
vinface goes in the UK election.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, that's your Byo election with Nigel Nigel Farage.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Mark about the list? So the list is interesting and
a hurry once again, it just reminded me. So Nicola
is not standing in a hurry. No, she's on the list.
There is no hurry now, no, no, sorry, but I'm
just going back in time. But whatever a hurry is now,
So she's not standing. She'll presumably be number two or
whatever on the list. If you win enough electrics. There
is no list.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, well, the list us'll get sort out by the party.
We have a listen, No, no, I know that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But if you win enough electorates you won't go to
the list because you'll have that. You'll have say you
win thirty six electorates, you won't need to go to
the list because you've got to have your thirty six
and if you're only entitled to thirty six seats, there's
no list.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well that's I mean, that's crystal ball stuff. But at
the end of the day we'll be running a very
very strong and hard party vote campaign because at the
end of the day, if you want a strong center
right government, then you need to give your party vote
to National.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, hold on, I think Paul Henry just told me
that before. He said, if you want to strong vote,
I'm getting mixed messages.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Here will be there, Antic Act will be there, You
Silla First will be there. But if you want a strong, stable,
center right government, then party vote National, Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
In these Galloway has taken up a temporary role as
lead organizer for the New Zealand Nurses Organization, the unit
he worked out before becoming a politician. Started a business
venture called Here's Good. The venture, which he founded with
Tony Grace, has made it to the final of the
Innovative Startup Business competition. So there you games, we'll get
on them.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, it's the story.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Not quite a scandal, jinny. Now we'll put that one
to bed. Nice to see both of you go well
and apologies once again, Jinny for the come on, I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Think it's more I'm looking for wild flowers wine.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well you here that that might this morning?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh yeah, you came in with gifts. We can all
go spearfishing. You want to come spear fishing with us, Jinny.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You put me in the water with your Mark. That's
a great idea.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Nice to talk to you, Jimmy Anderson Mark. Nice to
see you as well. And you brought your winners in too,
which was nice to meet them. So they had a
there that they seem they seem happy with proceedings.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So absolutely they worked all well. Have you brought them
so many food and you've taken them out for breakfast?
Oh then you getakast all right? The huge fans of
yours so huge to be able to come into the
studio see how it all goes. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They're lovely people. Nice to see politics Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Back next Wednesday for more from the Mike Asking Breakfast.
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