It’s Friday, which means Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson are back with Mike Hosking to Wrap the Week that Was.
They discussed National’s leadership challenge and the coup that wasn’t, the podcasts covering 100 Years of ZB, and tonight’s party celebrating the occasion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're good, tim Yeah, I am. You're ready for tonight? Hey,
fight up? You good caddy?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello, he's not answering that question, obviously, I'm great and
helload And was it Nathan listening in on the podcast?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, Nathan listens the day after, So by the time
Nathan tunes into us, it'll be Saturday morning unless unless well,
the year but he didn't say where he was. I
mean he was coming in in Sweden. Then it'll be
still Friday night, so it could be could be tricky.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
True. Well, we're grateful for the download.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, I mean thanks for the years. A million downloads.
I mean, you can't with a million downloads, can you?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Every one of them? Comes?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey? Can I just do a brick bat and a
bokay for the week, just to be old school radio?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh good, good, good segment segment.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I hope it's not a list, given your advice and
showed lists, so no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I want to start with the positive.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, in a world fall of people that want to
tear people down, in a country of tool poppies, I
think one of the key traits I value most in
the world is loyalty. And I think this week I
don't care about the politics. Take the politics away from it.
I don't care what party he was part of. The
Decency in humanity and loyalty of the man is what
I love. Mark Mitchell is my bouquet of the week
(01:21):
because how lovely was he when he said, I when
and I sat with him, Ah, I sat with Chris Luckson.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Everybody wanted to jump on him and we all hate you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're a loser, and you're feeling He must have been
feeling the weight of that, and I was thinking very
much of his family, his wife and kids.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
What a horrible thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The person you love have to go out on their
own and do all this, And how lovely for them
that there's a guy like Mark who goes and sits
with him and supports him and fronts up and says
to everybody, I'm behind him.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That was so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, it was well said.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What do you say to Matthew Houghton who says he's
one of the conspirators, he's out to lunch.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Matthew Howton doesn't have a clue. I don't know why
people still listen to him on politics because he's clearly so.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Is not with it at all, well, he just has
disdain for Christopher Luxe and just oozes out of every
pore of his body. And it's as like, if you
want you want someone who's going to be able to
accept the counter argument and go, okay, well this is
wrong because X, Y and Z. But it's just it's
not there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's just it's just hate Britain bad ugly.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well the brick that I mean, I've actually got two.
The obvious one is Eric Stanford because to me I
held her in high esteem. She's a very capable, competent minister.
But I think this week proves her intentions are in
the wrong place. I think if you've got aspirations like
that and you want to execute them this close to
an election, you're not quite all there.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I feel badly.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And I think putting out a not standing by Luxeon
on the way in or out of caucus when most
senior ministers.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Did, was very telling.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And putting out a damage control press release twenty four
hours after the fat going oh wos this is looking
bad for me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I do support luxeant was really embarrassing as.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well interesting my other Briain. So okay, that's good.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So the question I have for both of you then,
is that obviously we've asked Erica to come on the
program and Christopher as in Bishop of the Hut, and
both are avoiding us at the moment, and they know
what's coming. So how long do you avoid it? Because
you know you're going to have to face me eventually,
right at some time between now and November seven, you're
(03:33):
going to have to front up on this program in
front of hundreds of thousands of people, and you're going.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
To have to get hoskinged. So how long do you
want to how long do you want to hold that
off for?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, well they might be polishing up some pr I
mean Chris Bishop, we didn't hold in such high regards,
so he had he had a less distance to fall.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, we already knew.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We already knew.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, Erica, you're right, Erica. Stanford was a bit
of a surprise because you sort of thaink oh, she's
just preoccupied with education.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But that is true, isn't it. Do you think better?
I think better of Luxeen. I admire what he did
because the easy thing it was to do was to
walk away and to face somebody down to I mean,
what a shit week. I mean honestly, what I mean
you just personally you want to take just a brick bat.
You want to take a brick back to them and
whack him around the head. But you know, so who
(04:22):
needs that? Like you're sitting at home with Amanda and
you go, oh, got to call a caucus meeting again.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'll see your Thursday. How does that go? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But okay, I've got I don't know if this is
right or wrong, but what about there's no such thing
as bad publicity?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So this is all bad publicity.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
But doesn't mean because I've heard you talking about the
Nelson meeting and the standing ovation, et cetera, et cetera,
does this actually add up to a plus for Luxon
as a leader I think and National as a party,
because oh, they're talking about National everyone you know, you're
in the supermarket. You don't know who's a plotter, who's
who's what's what Zerica Stamford doing? No, you're just like, oh,
(05:04):
they're talking about National. Oh they must be up to something,
and and it's a boom.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There might be something in that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Four people speaking of the one hundredth and you raised
it at the start, Tim the one hundredth birthday or
celebration of z B. Katie, your summation yesterday, Katie came
and sat on my knee. Oh m, I was did
you did you do?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
This?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Is?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Did you do?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
This? Is the way the ladies ride? The ladies ride
then the cowboys? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you do that one?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's just I don't see all day because he works
in his office all day at home and he sits
at his computer working all day.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Long, watching watching question time his attention.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I go and if I don't sit down between
him and the screen, which at this point turned up
to be on his knee, I can't get his yea.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So she sat on my knee and we turned on
the Laighton Lutens with Podcasist podcast and he was doing
the one hundredth birthday of z B and he had
he had Bill, and he had Jason, and he had Dallas,
who have been the three most recent z B bosses.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So your summation, Katie, was what worth listen?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Listen to the whole thing. You put me on the
spot here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, yeah, I would say worth listen for sure, especially
people who are interested in z B as a juggernaut,
as a force, as a brand the legacy.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I like the first I like the first podcast
with the with the soldier's voices from the war.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That you're talking about my podcast, that's yeah, the Mike
Hosky podcast on News.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Can I ask you a question, Mike, Can I ask
you a question?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
What was it be taught you?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
What has it be taught you?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Working on to be patient with some of the people
that come on here that aren't that good to be
kind when it's amateur hour, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The best point on the podcast was that discrepancies. It
might have been Dallas who made it. The best point
was what, in fact, it could have been Jason as well.
What you get at z B is a lot of
respect for each other. The hosts on all the different
shows are very different people. They don't necessarily agree, They
(07:21):
wouldn't hang out socially with each other. They have different views,
but they have enough respect for what each other does
that they will always play the ball, not the man,
and so that's the beauty.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Or you get a lot of different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If you listen throughout the day, by the end of
the day, you might get a host who's really disagreeing
with something. Mike said, yeah, So I think I think
that was a really valid point.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You get it like a wet like Jack Tame, for example, like.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Come on Jack to Jack used to listen to talk back,
I was bunk in Nelson.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Do you know that's there?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It is?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's the theme I got out of Layton podcast Each Dallas,
Jason and Bill Jacket me uh, all tragics. We all
listened to the radio, fell in love with the radio
and what it does in its magic when we were kids, basically,
and we were so profoundly affected by what it could
do that we chased a career in it. That's that's radio,
(08:21):
and that's and Ziby is the best of that particular
version of communication. That's what I've learned from Zibby zid
Bey And answer to your questions, Actually to Ziby is
all I thought it would.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Be and more. There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I might look that into my speeches tonight. Bad news
on tonight? Do you want to know the news?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We already know?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Sam told us off here and I said, I told
you this, and you wouldn't listen to me.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Well, yep, you're going to be You're going to be
talking in your sleep, aren't you? Oh, for God's sake,
the deal was the deal in let's get it underway,
and that's it. And now now I'm told it's changed.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It may as well. The speeches don't start till like
eleven fifteen.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, the speeches start an hour after arrival time, which
is what I said would happened.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Why don't know what you were thinking that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They were going to start the speeches at the same
time as people are supposed to be arriving.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't know so well, I'll just be tired and
probably drunk at that point. Already warnings by the way,
I have gone out mainly to the newsroom. They're putting
people in taxis. First first sign of real umbrage verbally
against some of the high rollers in taxis straight away.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And that applies to you, Katie.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'll be on my best behavior.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Hey, listen, I've I've got by the way of a
zib host of the future. As our son three and
a half year old otto, when we asked him, what
do you do at kindy? He turned to us with
a malicious glint in his eye. He said, I drink
alcohol and fate.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The sad thing is, though to Tim it's probably true.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Well so we call the kindy. It's only half true.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So it's nice to talk to you. Tim Wilson, Kate Hawksby.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're good, tim Yeah, I am. You're ready for tonight? Hey,
fight up? You good caddy?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello, he's not answering that question, obviously, I'm great and
helload And was it Nathan listening in on the podcast?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, Nathan listens the day after, So by the time
Nathan tunes into us, it'll be Saturday morning unless unless well,
the year but he didn't say where he was. I
mean he was coming in in Sweden. Then it'll be
still Friday night, so it could be could be tricky.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
True. Well, we're grateful for the download.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, I mean thanks for the years. A million downloads.
I mean, you can't with a million downloads, can you?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Every one of them? Comes?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey? Can I just do a brick bat and a
bokay for the week, just to be old school radio?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh good, good, good segment segment.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I hope it's not a list, given your advice and
showed lists, so no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I want to start with the positive.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, in a world fall of people that want to
tear people down, in a country of tool poppies, I
think one of the key traits I value most in
the world is loyalty. And I think this week I
don't care about the politics. Take the politics away from it.
I don't care what party he was part of. The
Decency in humanity and loyalty of the man is what
I love. Mark Mitchell is my bouquet of the week
(01:21):
because how lovely was he when he said, I when
and I sat with him, Ah, I sat with Chris Luckson.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Everybody wanted to jump on him and we all hate you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're a loser, and you're feeling He must have been
feeling the weight of that, and I was thinking very
much of his family, his wife and kids.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
What a horrible thing to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The person you love have to go out on their
own and do all this, And how lovely for them
that there's a guy like Mark who goes and sits
with him and supports him and fronts up and says
to everybody, I'm behind him.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That was so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, it was well said.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What do you say to Matthew Houghton who says he's
one of the conspirators, he's out to lunch.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Matthew Howton doesn't have a clue. I don't know why
people still listen to him on politics because he's clearly so.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Is not with it at all, well, he just has
disdain for Christopher Luxe and just oozes out of every
pore of his body. And it's as like, if you
want you want someone who's going to be able to
accept the counter argument and go, okay, well this is
wrong because X, Y and Z. But it's just it's
not there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's just it's just hate Britain bad ugly.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well the brick that I mean, I've actually got two.
The obvious one is Eric Stanford because to me I
held her in high esteem. She's a very capable, competent minister.
But I think this week proves her intentions are in
the wrong place. I think if you've got aspirations like
that and you want to execute them this close to
an election, you're not quite all there.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I feel badly.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And I think putting out a not standing by Luxeon
on the way in or out of caucus when most
senior ministers.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Did, was very telling.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And putting out a damage control press release twenty four
hours after the fat going oh wos this is looking
bad for me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I do support luxeant was really embarrassing as.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well interesting my other Briain. So okay, that's good.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So the question I have for both of you then,
is that obviously we've asked Erica to come on the
program and Christopher as in Bishop of the Hut, and
both are avoiding us at the moment, and they know
what's coming. So how long do you avoid it? Because
you know you're going to have to face me eventually,
right at some time between now and November seven, you're
(03:33):
going to have to front up on this program in
front of hundreds of thousands of people, and you're going.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
To have to get hoskinged. So how long do you
want to how long do you want to hold that
off for?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, well they might be polishing up some pr I
mean Chris Bishop, we didn't hold in such high regards,
so he had he had a less distance to fall.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, we already knew.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We already knew.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, Erica, you're right, Erica. Stanford was a bit
of a surprise because you sort of thaink oh, she's
just preoccupied with education.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But that is true, isn't it. Do you think better?
I think better of Luxeen. I admire what he did
because the easy thing it was to do was to
walk away and to face somebody down to I mean,
what a shit week. I mean honestly, what I mean
you just personally you want to take just a brick bat.
You want to take a brick back to them and
whack him around the head. But you know, so who
(04:22):
needs that? Like you're sitting at home with Amanda and
you go, oh, got to call a caucus meeting again.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'll see your Thursday. How does that go? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But okay, I've got I don't know if this is
right or wrong, but what about there's no such thing
as bad publicity?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So this is all bad publicity.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
But doesn't mean because I've heard you talking about the
Nelson meeting and the standing ovation, et cetera, et cetera,
does this actually add up to a plus for Luxon
as a leader I think and National as a party,
because oh, they're talking about National everyone you know, you're
in the supermarket. You don't know who's a plotter, who's
who's what's what Zerica Stamford doing? No, you're just like, oh,
(05:04):
they're talking about National. Oh they must be up to something,
and and it's a boom.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There might be something in that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Four people speaking of the one hundredth and you raised
it at the start, Tim the one hundredth birthday or
celebration of z B. Katie, your summation yesterday, Katie came
and sat on my knee. Oh m, I was did
you did you do?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
This?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Is?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Did you do?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
This? Is the way the ladies ride? The ladies ride
then the cowboys? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you do that one?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's just I don't see all day because he works
in his office all day at home and he sits
at his computer working all day.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Long, watching watching question time his attention.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I go and if I don't sit down between
him and the screen, which at this point turned up
to be on his knee, I can't get his yea.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So she sat on my knee and we turned on
the Laighton Lutens with Podcasist podcast and he was doing
the one hundredth birthday of z B and he had
he had Bill, and he had Jason, and he had Dallas,
who have been the three most recent z B bosses.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So your summation, Katie, was what worth listen?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Listen to the whole thing. You put me on the
spot here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, yeah, I would say worth listen for sure, especially
people who are interested in z B as a juggernaut,
as a force, as a brand the legacy.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I like the first I like the first podcast
with the with the soldier's voices from the war.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That you're talking about my podcast, that's yeah, the Mike
Hosky podcast on News.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Can I ask you a question, Mike, Can I ask
you a question?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
What was it be taught you?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
What has it be taught you?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Working on to be patient with some of the people
that come on here that aren't that good to be
kind when it's amateur hour, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The best point on the podcast was that discrepancies. It
might have been Dallas who made it. The best point
was what, in fact, it could have been Jason as well.
What you get at z B is a lot of
respect for each other. The hosts on all the different
shows are very different people. They don't necessarily agree, They
(07:21):
wouldn't hang out socially with each other. They have different views,
but they have enough respect for what each other does
that they will always play the ball, not the man,
and so that's the beauty.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Or you get a lot of different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If you listen throughout the day, by the end of
the day, you might get a host who's really disagreeing
with something. Mike said, yeah, So I think I think
that was a really valid point.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You get it like a wet like Jack Tame, for example, like.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Come on Jack to Jack used to listen to talk back,
I was bunk in Nelson.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Do you know that's there?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It is?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's the theme I got out of Layton podcast Each Dallas,
Jason and Bill Jacket me uh, all tragics. We all
listened to the radio, fell in love with the radio
and what it does in its magic when we were kids, basically,
and we were so profoundly affected by what it could
do that we chased a career in it. That's that's radio,
(08:21):
and that's and Ziby is the best of that particular
version of communication. That's what I've learned from Zibby zid
Bey And answer to your questions, Actually to Ziby is
all I thought it would.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Be and more. There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I might look that into my speeches tonight. Bad news
on tonight? Do you want to know the news?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We already know?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Sam told us off here and I said, I told
you this, and you wouldn't listen to me.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Well, yep, you're going to be You're going to be
talking in your sleep, aren't you? Oh, for God's sake,
the deal was the deal in let's get it underway,
and that's it. And now now I'm told it's changed.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It may as well. The speeches don't start till like
eleven fifteen.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, the speeches start an hour after arrival time, which
is what I said would happened.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Why don't know what you were thinking that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They were going to start the speeches at the same
time as people are supposed to be arriving.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't know so well, I'll just be tired and
probably drunk at that point. Already warnings by the way,
I have gone out mainly to the newsroom. They're putting
people in taxis. First first sign of real umbrage verbally
against some of the high rollers in taxis straight away.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And that applies to you, Katie.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'll be on my best behavior.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Hey, listen, I've I've got by the way of a
zib host of the future. As our son three and
a half year old otto, when we asked him, what
do you do at kindy? He turned to us with
a malicious glint in his eye. He said, I drink
alcohol and fate.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The sad thing is, though to Tim it's probably true.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Well so we call the kindy. It's only half true.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So it's nice to talk to you. Tim Wilson, Kate Hawksby.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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