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Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, a very good morning and welcome along to the
Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me peep Off Camp,
the Resident Builder, and this is a show all about
our houses, our homes, about building them in the first place,
about looking after them, about the rules and regulations that
govern what we can build and where we can build it.
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Maybe some tips and advice for you as you decide
that you're going to crack into a task because to
be fair, houses always need something doing on them. And
I'm sure I've said this before, but whoever came up
with the idea of maintenance free kind of should be,
you know, sued for misrepresentation. Nothing is maintenance free. So
there's always something to do. And if you've got a
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task that you are either undertaking and it's going okay,
but you've still got a couple of questions, or as
sometimes happens, you've got a task that well you've started
and it's not going particularly well, or we can work
with you on that as well. So the lines are open.
The number to call is eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty. You can text as well, that's nine to
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nine to two from your mobile phone, and if you'd
like to send me an email, you're absolutely welcome to
do that. It's Pete at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz.
So Pete at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot Nz coming
up nine minutes after six. Of course, as always, Client
pass will join us at about eight point thirty today
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on the show. Don't think I've got any other guests
lined up. I've got sort of a long list of
people that we will be talking to because much is changing.
The Granny Flat legislation is now in place. There's been
a great deal of conversation about it prior to it
becoming law. Now that it's law and people are actually
working through the practicalities of it, I guess there's a
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growing sentiment of just how many of these types of
buildings will be able to take full advantage of the
intent of the legislation, which is to reduce the amount
of compliance, speed up the process, and so on. And
then a story that, to be fair, I haven't had
a lot of time to dig into this week around
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the government sort of removing guarantees and warranties for a
period of time around these new builds as well. So
it's a constantly moving situation and we'll try and keep
you up to date with it. Ritioh. The lines are open.
The number to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
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Let's rip into it. If you've got a question of
a building nature, the practical, the theoretical, the legislative, we
can talk about all of these things. Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty the number to call, and a good morning.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Okay, I was just wanting some clarification around a CoA.
Sure the difference between a for a new build and
a builder carried out restricted building works didn't get the
consent through the council just completely ignored my emails and
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then he just careered me the keys. I've been left
with structural restricted building works and now they're telling me
to get a CoA. I don't think I should because
then I take responsibility for the works. But also I
don't have all the paperwork for it. How does that
whole COO thing work?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, First up, I'm flabbergasted. If what you're telling me
is as I'm hearing it and understanding it, so can
a couple of quick questions for you. Anna, this is
a new build.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yes, it is in the target.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
As in there was nothing there it was. There was
bare ground slab framing closing up the whole shebang.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yep, But they completely stuffed up the foundation for a start.
They lowered it considerably, but was building more than what
they were both too?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But was there a building consent to build the building
in the first place? Yes, it was okay, so there
was a building consent. Did counsel undertake any inspections at all.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Well, first they said they did, and then when we
went into litigation, they couldn't find the inspections. And then
fourteen months later they found the file after I had
already paid over one hundred and fifty thousand on a
so called expert my lawyers, and it has just turned
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to custard. And I personally think the dodgy builder is
in with the council and they just carried out all
these restricted building works like their major.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, it's a whole house, okay, So I.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Can't sell it. That was a new build that has
restricted building works. Nobody wants to know. My expert is
now unavailable. And the council initially told me you cannot
file a CoA because one the works weren't carried out
by the owner, which is myself, and two they weren't urgent, right, okay,
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And that was the two sort of grounds. Wasn't it
for CoA? When I read about it? For that be
your crep.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I mean coas are often, you know, work that perhaps well,
work that did require a building consent because it's restricted
building work, so it's work outside of schedule one of
the act is another way of looking at it. But
it often relates to things like I'm sort of involved
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with one at the moment where a tile shower was installed.
It probably should have had a building consent. It didn't.
It's it's compliant with the code. There's a way of
proving that you can't get a retrospective building consent, therefore
you go for a CoA. But your situation sounds, I
have to say, incredibly confusing from an outsider's point of view,
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because there is a pathway, right, so a consent was
applied for I take it the person who undertook the
construction is a licensed building practitioner, yes, and I.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Have filed to them, even though they haven't filled out
an row and.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Which they're required to do at the completion of work.
So they have a statutory obligation to do that. And
there's no there's no wiggle room on that, right, It's
quite clear. So failure to provide a row a record
of works puts you immediately offside with the Licensed Building
Practitioners Disciplinary board. Have you been in touch with the
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license building practitioners?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Now?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I have filed against the actual building, not the building company.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
No, it's got to be the individual builder.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Yeah, he was seen entering the property and I was
rung to say that you know, they seen him going
in had keys. So I had already emailed him twice
to say that you are not permitted to be on
or in my property. And so I rung him and
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then I emailed him again. And then on the seat
of April of last year, when I was told he
was actually in the property, I emailed him again and
I said to him, you've been told that the building
company alone longer my agent.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
The sorry and the challenge for this particular conversation now
is that it is incredibly complex and more complex than,
to be fair, we can deal with on the show,
and because there will be so many layers of issues here.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
But just.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
To clear it up in my head, So, there was
a building consent, building work was undertaken, obviously somewhere along
the line. It never got to the final inspection.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Well, it nited because fourteen months later, after like judications
and everything else, the council file found the files and
I think there was twelve of them and they sent
them and put them on the property file fourteen months
after the fact. So they shouldn't have either. When would
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you co to compliant?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
No, so have you moved into the property, you're living
in the house.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I'm not living in the house because obviously there were
so many things wrong, but I have been fixing them
as i've gone along. But now I'm down to two
major issues, one being the restricted building works with is
not the correct even the structural engineer he filled out
the peers one like are required and then didn't send
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it to counsel. And then they carried out the works
built out a peers four but didn't complete it properly.
And there's no row, so you can't file it even
if I wanted to for a CLA cheepers.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So the house, when would date of practical completion?
Speaker 10 (10:55):
When?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
When could you have lived in the house?
Speaker 6 (10:57):
If they're well the adjudicator, Not that you're supposed to
undiscuss what they've said, but they practical completion has not
been met because they lowered the foundation without my knowledge
and consent. So the three super major defense sure the
lowered foundation. Two is all the flashings are non compliant,
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so around all windows, around all doors, in all verticals.
And then I have got a major defeat, which is
an overhand on the north side. It's thirty five miles overhung,
so it completely can't leave it, and then they came
back without my content.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Thirty five The thirty five millimeters doesn't sound like can I?
Speaker 10 (11:44):
Can?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I just a quick question? So if the flashings were
non compliant, so there would have been basically a rap
inspection and then a cladding inspection if at that time
it was noted on. You know, typically building inspecta will
come out, they'll look at that, they'll say to the builder, hey,
flashings are not as per the plan or the non
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comp client. They'll note that on the inspection it'll come
through as a fail. And then at the next inspection
if the building, if the builder hasn't done anything about it,
they would be they would fail the next inspection or
the next inspection wouldn't go ahead until the previous work
has been rectified. So if, for example, this is where
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I'm starting to get, I find it complex and confusing
and flabbergasting, if that's a word that Let's say they
were able to do a pre line inspection or a
postline inspection knowing that a fail for the flashings was
still on the file. So this is where this is
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where obviously it would feel that you've been let down
by a number of groups. We could spend the entire
show talking about your situation, which unfortunately we can't do.
I am intrigued. Do you mind if I hand you
back to Locke, my producer, and I might not be
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this week, but if I give you a call, because
there's there's something that's going on here quite obviously that
really doesn't make sense. And you know, if counsel in
some way at Faulton. I'm certainly not suggesting that that
would be interesting to know. It'd be interesting to know
what consultants you've already spoken with, but the fact that
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what is You know, buildings complicated, but it's not that complicated, right,
If it's a relatively simple structure, they get built, thousands
of them every year. You get to final inspection, you
get that passed, you submit for a CEO CCC, you
get it, and you get on with your life. So
when those things don't happen, there's something extraordinary happening. So
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if you don't mind, I might give you a call
on that at some stage. I am intrigued. It is
twenty minutes after six on the first of February, and
I don't mean to freak you out. But if you've
got things that you want to get done this year
already into February, that's my sense as well. So Radio,
we're moving along. It is time for your calls as well.
We'll come back in just this moment chat with Danny
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to the person who's texed through, Pete, could I have
the name of the company that converts internal spouting to
external you mentioned it on the program last year. That's
from Shannon. There's a couple of companies out there that
do it now as well, So there's actually I'll tell
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you what. I'll just check then I've got all the
details and I'll do that straight after the break. I'll
be back with you in just a moment coming up
twenty one minutes after six.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering
how to fix that hole in the wall.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Give Peter wolf Gabber call on the Resident Builder on
News dogs B Radio. Quite interesting with regard to this
conversion of the internal spouting systems to external ones. So
these are the sorts of systems they were in incredibly popular,
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particularly with sort of group home builders and developers and
that sort of thing. Back in the well, lots of
people actually, gosh would have been nineties sometimes, and it's
that thing where when you look at the building you
don't see any obvious spouting, so there's a metal facier
and tuctin behind it will be some spouting. They've been
notorious for leaking the area, very difficult to maintain, and
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so many people are starting to go, well, look, let's
get rid of that and try something else. And so
a number of companies have come up with systems that
allow them to do that conversion in a very straightforward manner.
Whereas I remember when I first started looking at them,
it was quite labor intensive in the sense that the
builder would come rip all that out, redo the facier,
try and extend some roofing or cut it back bah blah.
(15:56):
But it got very, very very complicated anyway. So there's
a couple of companies Shannon who are doing it. There
is Custom Facier and About have a system. Continuous Group
have a system which I've seen. And there's also the
team at a Spouting and Facia who have their rigs system.
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Rigs Riggs Facier conversion system is in there as well.
So some of them be around the country. Some of
them in Auckland. But that should give you a steer
on where to go. Another quick comment, just off the
back of Anna's conversation around I am still genuinely incredibly
surprised as to how this situation would come about today,
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you know, if we're talking twenty thirty years ago. Yeah, maybe,
And particularly with regard to inspection records. One of the
really really interesting things that you can do now if
you are in direct contact, let's say, with the builder
of your house. So if you're doing a renovation that's
restricted building work, it's got a building consent and there
(17:05):
will be in spaces done by council and you're the
owner of the property and you've engaged the builder, and
other situations similar to that, and I'll explain why that's
important in a moment. You can also request to get
a copy of the building inspections because building inspections, I
presume most of the country these days, it's electronic, right,
(17:26):
It's a digital system. So the inspector will turn up
with a tablet, they'll run through the inspection, they will
make their notes on the within the portal. It generates
a report. That report that inspection result is sent to
the builder electronically via email and you get it. But
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as a homeowner or as the customer, you could also
request that you get a copy of it. So just
bear that in mind. If you're undertaking, let's say, a renovation,
and you're paying the builder directly, you can ask counsel
to send you a copy of the inspection reports. Gives
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you really good insight into it. Builder might be a
bit uncomfortable about that. If they are, that's their problem.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. We've
got a couple of spare lines, so jump onto the
phone and give us a call on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Danny, Thanks for waiting.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Good morning, Good Pete.
Speaker 11 (18:25):
How are you doing?
Speaker 12 (18:26):
I'm doing all.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Right, Thank you mate.
Speaker 11 (18:28):
Hopefully this question do we more simple than the last one? Hey,
both through in vanity units. They have quite a glossy
ry cabinetry. Can they successfully be painted? And if so,
how do you go about it?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Right? They yes, they can be painted, but they will
always look like something that's been painted. So accepting the
fact that the intention of those surfaces is that's the
finished surface, and then you're applying a coating to it,
you know, as long as your expectation matches what's going
to happen, which will be it'll be nice and it'll
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be the color that you want it. But you know,
durability wise, you might find that you get a bit
of chipping, so thorough clean probably a very light sand effectively,
just to degloss the surface a little bit and to
provide I guess a surface that will accept paint, and
then your first paint is going to be like a
(19:31):
let me call it an h prime almost so that
it sucks into the surface and gives you a substrate
that then your subsequent coats will bond to. So there's
specific Razine's got some very specific primers that will allow
you to coat that surface and then it will accept
other paints. And then I'd probably look at something like
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a water borne enamel that you can get, so rather
than an oil based enamel, it's a water borne enamel.
Apply that maybe with a very very fine roller if
it's a flat surface, really hard to brush those out,
and then you know, work on an entire surface in
one go, so one door at a time type thing.
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And in fact, I might have to go back on
what I said about it looks like a painted piece.
We were staying with some friends last year when we're
in the UK, and they had taken some fairly humble,
you know, furniture that had been that was that was
MDF with a veneer on it, so typical sort of
Maltiker product. Painted it to the exactly the color that
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they wanted. Looked awesome. Now in a couple of years
you might have to repaint it, but yeah, it's durable.
Speaker 11 (20:43):
Yeah, just looking a bit yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. So and each prime or to each prime is
what you're after. So if you again pop down to
the local Razine store just say this is what I
intend to paint, they'll they'll have exactly the right primer
and then some nice water borne enamel over the top
of that. You know, painting sort of good conditions with
good gear, you'll get a great outlook.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Okay. I recall about twenty probably twenty five years ago,
I painted some Meltiker cupboards and a kitchen and there
they gave me a product. If I recall, it was
light blue and it was really quite a slimy thing
to apply evenly.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, that would have been the h prime.
Speaker 11 (21:25):
Oh was it quite still like that?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Is it? It's a funny product, and I've where I
used it, not that recently, but in the last couple
of years was coating over the top of polyurethaned native
timber right, which in some people's eyes would be a crime,
but anyway, and so it had polly on there. I
gave it a scuff, just a d glosst and applied.
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At that time it was their smooth surface ceiler, which
is almost like the consistency of milk basically, and you
sort of put it on and you go, yeah, I
wonder if this is going to work. Well it does,
because I was looking at that ceiling just the other
day and it's amazing.
Speaker 11 (22:05):
It's sort of like it's not going to stick a.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, no, it does feel like it's not doing much,
but I assure you it does the job. So yeah, no,
go for it. Be a great job to some funky
colors and the where you.
Speaker 11 (22:17):
Go, did that come up with a sort of a
tiny sort of a bubble and all that stuff?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Though, Yeah, I know what you're saying, Yeah, but I
find that then again, if you use like a two
twenty or a four hundred grit, once you've applied that
first coat, give it a very light sand. You don't
want to sand that surface prep off, but you can
knock back any little bubbles that might be in there.
I wouldn't be too worried about that. Thanks all the
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very best to you, nice chatty, take care, Bob oh
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Morning Pete, says Angela from christ Church. I
am wanting to put a double sliding exterior door where
an existing window is a single story. It's the same
gap as the window. Do I need a building consent? Also?
Do I need to use an LBP builder for this work?
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I did ring the council. They wouldn't give me an
answer yes or no. They wanted me. They just emailed
me the building Act. Okay, I'm happy to give you
an answer. The answer is you don't require a building
consent for that work. The key consideration is that if
there is an existing opening and it's a window, and
you're changing it to a door, so effectively all you're
(23:29):
doing is removing that section of framing and cladding that's
immediately below the window sill, you can do that work
without necessarily requiring a building consent. So you don't need
a building consent. Do you need to use a licensed
building practitioner for that? Not necessarily because it's not restricted
(23:49):
building work. It still needs to be done in accordance
with the building Code, So flashing, sills, sill flashings, those
sorts of things all need to be in place. But
you don't technically need to use an LVP, and I
think you don't need to get a building consent. What
I would suggest is that you document what you're doing
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very well. So photograph of what it is at the moment,
Photograph of the work while it's underway. Photograph, for example,
of any flashing tapes, photograph of any silent flashing, Photographs
of filling in the gap, creating an ear gap around
the window, or sealing that ear gap off, all of
those sorts of things. Photograph everything, put it in a
(24:30):
little file, keep it and if anyone ever asks, there's
documentary evidence as to what you did and how it
complies with the Building Code. It is six thirty three Ian,
Good morning to you.
Speaker 13 (24:42):
Oh, good morning love. Listening to the conversation topics, there's
a lot of technical stuff and a lot of legal
stuff in the air. I'm trying to keep buying as
simple as possible, although there's quite quite complex, and I'm
not too bad at keeping a complex thing simple.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Sure.
Speaker 13 (25:02):
So basically, I've had I've had my building inspector because
I'm my house inspected because I'm the process of selling it.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yes, I got a I've got a.
Speaker 13 (25:15):
Report from a building inspector and which I wanted to
include in the documents that are made available to potential buyers.
The problem is he's done a very comprehensive job, but
he inspected the roof while it was in the rain.
He just looked over the looked over the spouting at
(25:36):
the roof at a quick glass, I saw a bit
of rust and this says the whole roof and he
replacing right. So it's just very localized. It's it's adjacent
to a box scatter from the back part of the roof.
So who do I who do I go to to
(25:57):
demand to discuss the matter with him, because at the
moment he's refusing to answer my phone call and.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Not okay, So a couple of quick questions as well. Then,
So this is you contracted someone to act to undertake
a pre purchase building inspection on your behalf as the vendor,
with the intention that you would then make that report
available to a prospective purchaser. Yes, okay, so I presume
(26:31):
so the pre purchase inspector is working for you because
you're the client. Yes, you've paid for the report.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
Yes, I paid for the report because he demanded pay
on the day, and I.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Think, okay, yep, all right. And so in that report
he's made a comment around the rust and a recommendation
that the roof be replaced. And so when you've rung
to ask him about that, he's decided that he doesn't
want to talk to you anymore. He's fulfilled his obligations.
I mean, look from a business point of view, I
(27:07):
think that's poor practice right on his part, because in
the end, I mean, look from his point of view,
if he said it's got rust, you need to replace it,
he's also protecting himself and his business. Right. So if
he was to make a comment along the lines of
it has some rust, but it'll be okay. And then
(27:30):
in six months time you sell the house, it rains
and it leaks, and someone says, well, hang on the
building inspector said there was some rust there, but it
would be okay. And I'm standing here with a bucket.
They're going to go and sue him for damages, right,
So I get it from his point of view that
he doesn't want to change what he said. But at
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the same time, you know, it's quite possible. I mean,
I've looked at houses that have got rusty roofs, right,
and they don't leak. So you go, rust, you know,
requires attention or rust recommend replacement or something like that.
But rust must replace a roof is quite a different statement.
(28:12):
I mean, I don't know that you're going to have
a lot of luck. It's I think it's poor practice
on his part not to engage with you. But that's
by the by. Now, I guess he has a right
not to.
Speaker 13 (28:24):
Can I cut on the He did by saying, I
haven't been able to look at the roof, but I
can see the rust and the whole ru should be replaced. Admittedly,
I've only had a moment to look at it. That's
all he said in his report.
Speaker 14 (28:38):
Okay, dee a look at it.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, I guess, ah je It's complicated, doesn't it. And
the other thing is, like, you know, you could say, well, look,
I'm going to choose to not disclose that report, but
then when you sit down with the real estate agent,
they're going to say to you, are you aware of
any issues with the house, And you're going to have
to declare that report because you had it commissioned right
(29:05):
in which as you can't go back on that.
Speaker 13 (29:09):
I've already seen it, so he knows the situation, transparent
about it. But wow, I want to, I want to,
I want to. I want a solution. He's saying it
will cost you know, have to replace the roof, because
thirty thousands replace the roof.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
What is the roofing? What type of material?
Speaker 13 (29:27):
Uh? Well, it's essentially it's corrugated iron. But but it's
the houses in two parts. It's got a gable roof
in the front and it's got a butterfly roof in
the back because there wasn't a leanto which they could
converted to a butterfly. Yeah. So the box when they
built the box gutter, they built it out of zinklin
(29:49):
yep and with a nice apron. So it's like a
sort of like a like an albatross with two wide wings,
long wings each side of.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
The box gutter.
Speaker 13 (29:58):
And the corrosion is occurring on the section of corrugate
corrugation which they cut out and refitted over the box together.
So it's got this nice white apron with a section
of fitted and corrugated iron and that's that's just corrolling.
It's a few spots. It's only happened quite recently. I
(30:20):
mean it was done thirty years ago. The house hasn't
leaked in thirty years. The spots are just starting to
appear now, which is really unusual.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
After Although it's an odd resolution to this, but I'm
wondering whether you know, rather than argue about the fact
that there's some rust there, and whether or not the
extent of that rust deserves replacement and all the rest
of it. If it's relatively localized, and because it's a
long run iron, I would be inclined to get a
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roofer to price for the replacement. Just of the sheets
that have rust on them, have those replaced, and then
you can add you can say, look, it was identified,
I've fixed it, and then a buyer can make their
own decision. That might be the cheapest solution, the most
practical and cheapest solution.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
You could take away section of the corrugated iron out
and replace that.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You can and not you know and what I'm talking
about is going to the next Perlin, cutting the sheet there,
getting a similar profile one sliding it underneath. It's you know,
these repairs are completely and utterly legitimate, right, so if
you deal to the rust by replacing part of that,
you know that's completely acceptable in my mind anyway, So
(31:40):
because I think you could spend a long time arguing
with this guy about it and still get no resolution
because he's he's saying, this is my opinion. You've paid
me for my opinion. If you don't like my opinion,
that's not my problem, rights, that's what's going through his head.
So I think, just do a targeted repair. Get the
person who's done the targeted repair, the roofer, who hopefully
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is an LBP, to just issue you with a really
simple statement saying I've undertaken these repairs. They don't have
to offer up any warranty or anything like that. They
just say I've repaired it and it's okay and move on.
And I've got to move on as well. Good luck
with that. It raises a whole lot of questions around
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vendor generated pre purchase inspections and whether or not whether
or not they're worth doing, whether or not if you
were a prospective purchaser, would you feel confident relying on
a pre purchase inspection undertaken by someone contracted to the vendor.
(32:44):
There's a bit in that. We'll talk about that in
the moment. We'll take short break as well. We'll talk
to Dorien. We've got a couple of lines free. We've
got some great texts as well. Call us now, oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Squeaky door.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Or squeaky floor Get the right advice from Beautifulfcare the
resident builder on news Talk sad B.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
When you talk said be it is just after six
forty five on I have to say it even just
fricks me out a little bit. First of February, Locke,
I'm just shaking the z go criikey, criikey. I have
to say it's been a turbulent start to the new year,
in a rather frantic one. But anyway, we're getting there.
(33:24):
It is six forty five and Doreen, a very good
morning to you.
Speaker 15 (33:29):
Good morning. I'm just an easy one for you.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Great.
Speaker 15 (33:34):
I've got a front entry door which is powder coated
aluminium and it's black and man has it got sun
strike like, no, do I get or google and look
for a proper coating expert.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I would recommend that and I'll save you time on
the keyboard and suggests that you just go straight to
a company called Nano Clear, so.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
In a.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yep clear talk to them and and it might be
an opportunity, you know in terms of like a black
front door is great, but if it's a black front
door that gets direct sunlight, then yes, it is going
to get really really hot and so on. So I
you know, you can talk to them about changing the color,
(34:32):
but they'll they'll sort you out. So if you wanted
it to be white, you know they can do that.
If you wanted to be any shade of color between
white and black, they can do that for you as well.
Speaker 15 (34:43):
Well that's great, So I'll just google them as ye
no Clear, Nano Clear. I think another color would be
a good idea.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, yep. And it's like it's no drama for them.
They're all set up for it. They'll do a great
job and they'll give you a warranty.
Speaker 15 (34:59):
Oh good, thanks exactly, lovely.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
To chat dooring, take care of all the best bother then,
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call.
I am good morning, Oh, good morning.
Speaker 14 (35:09):
Yes, I'm wanting some advice about so cold. Yes, I
have a property which is not connected to the storm
water system. It has it just has independent so cold
and I'm just wondering how you would go about checking
on those.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Roughly, when would the so cool have been built in
the first place?
Speaker 14 (35:36):
Well, the property was built about two thousand and four,
two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Five, okay, right, Okay, that's and that's interesting in the
sense that if you I'm thinking back to properties, let's
say that we're built in the nineteen sixties and seventies, right,
so that a so cool hasn't changed that much since then, right,
But what.
Speaker 14 (35:59):
Would it happened? It's got numerous so cold Ah.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Okay, it's interesting in its own right this given that
it was two thousand and four, other soakholds the design
detailed on the building consent from that time.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
No, they're not, they're not detailed.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Right, So has the stormwater system been approved by counsel client? Okay,
interesting as well?
Speaker 14 (36:38):
All right, Well, the house was built by a developer,
and it's they did all the landscaping as well, and
actually quite a lot of the ground you is paved,
yes with and it's concrete pavers and then concrete in
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between you know, yes, and between the pavers.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
So the so that you're talking about, and it sounds
like you have a number of them, Are they a
chamber with a void in them? Or is it simply
you know, a hole that's been dug filled with drainage
material and the storm water gets directed into that.
Speaker 14 (37:24):
Will the downpipes go down and then they go into
the soap hoole?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yes?
Speaker 12 (37:31):
But the so it looks as for each downpipe, so
there's one, two, three, there's only about five downpipes in
the property.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yes, and each one of them has their own dedicated soakhole.
Speaker 14 (37:47):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Look, I I actually find them endlessly fascinating, but I'm
not going to let my fascination with them take up
too much time. I think the simplest solution is going
to be is that you could try and go back
through the property records and find the contractor who was
the drainage tractor at the time. You might be able
to find those records and ask them to come and
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visit and check them. Otherwise I would find a recommendation
for a reliable drain layer to come and do an inspection.
The other thing that you could do is contract a
like a company that does CCTV inspection of drains to
actually run. They could disconnect the downpipe, which is not
a big drama, and run a camera down the line
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and see where it exits. What you might find is
that where it exits is in fact solid ground. Now
that there might have been some scoria there, but it's
full of fines and it won't be working, or you
know it is working. So CCTV is a good way
of actually getting a look inside there a reliable, experienced
drain layer to come and have a look to determine
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whether or not they're actually working. And the other thing
is go outside when it's really really raining and see
whether the water is flowing back out of your stormwater connections.
That will also tell you that it's not working. So
that's how I would approach it. And for what strange reason,
I don't know why, but I do find stormwater and
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soakage endlessly fascinating, having built a few in my time.
Rightio six, thanks for the call, Diane, Lovely Chat six
fifty one back.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
In the moth, helping you get those DIY projects done right.
The resident builder with beauta wolfcat call eighty Youth Talks EDB.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Your newth talks B. We're coming up to news time,
but before then, a very good morning to you, Michael.
Speaker 14 (39:39):
How is pet?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Very well?
Speaker 16 (39:41):
I'm going through the garrows and I found an old
pitchfork of've hed for years, forty or fifty years, and
it's got a hickory handle.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Beautiful.
Speaker 16 (39:52):
Yeah, and I've noticed it's been sitting there for bloody agent.
And when I first got it it was all quite shiny.
I was seeing me a getting some linseed oil and
rubbing it and see if I can bring the grains
back up again.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Beautiful. I would give it a light sand with some
very fine paper like you know, two twenty grits or
something like that first, just to because it'll have a
bit of grime in that on it. And then yes,
some linseed oil on there will it'll be beautiful.
Speaker 16 (40:20):
Yeah, it should bring all the grains days, shouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, it'll be gorgeous.
Speaker 16 (40:26):
And listen while I'm married. I've got a baynit. It's
about a foot long. It's double sided, and the leather
if I was in the leather is starting to get
a rural but yeah, funny on it if I use
lindseed oil on that.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I've been endlessly fascinated by that repair shop show on TV,
you know, the one from Britain, and there's that fabulous
woman there who does the leather repair and she seems
to have these magical sort of revival reviving type oils
that they apply to leather. So I'm not sure about
linseed oil on leather. It might work, but I'm sure
(41:01):
that if you did a search or I don't know,
maybe they've got an app or a website. But I
love that show regardless. But her work I think is extraordinary.
So there will probably be a special type of oil
or polish that you can apply to old leather. But
knock yourself out, it'll be awesome, right he Oh, we've
got new Sport and weather top of the hour at
(41:22):
seven o'clock. Give us a call now, we'll get things
set up back after the.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
News measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first
video walfcaf the Resident Builder News Talks.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
They'd be yr News Talk. They'd be just gone six
minutes after seven. Very good morning, welcome back to the program.
I keep saying this the first day of February. There's
part of me that just goes like, what, how did
that happen? I'm sure I'll be saying that when we
roll over to March in April and onwards and onwards.
But it is indeed February and a short working week.
Of course White Tony Day on Friday as well, so
(41:58):
another long weekend, which is awesome. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's particularly
awesome if you've got projects right, So maybe when was
it last Monday was Auckland Anniversary Day? Of course there
are other anniversary days this week I think around the country.
And then I were kind of that's about it for
the long weekends and statutory holidays until we hit Easter.
(42:23):
So if you've got a task to do, maybe this Friday,
is it a bad thing to be out with power
tools on why taking day? I think that's okay. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you've got a question of a building nature.
We were chatting with Michael just before the news who
was talking about old tools and the shed and old
pitchfork that he wanted to use some lindseed oil. Then
we got talking about the leather and whether or not
(42:46):
to apply lindseed oil to leather. And I've had thank
you for the couple of texts that have come through.
One person talking about its a product called Gillies g
I l l y Gillies. It's a balm for leather. Apparently,
can get it at N to ten.
Speaker 14 (43:04):
I may.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I think I've got a couple of little jobs where
that might be quite useful. So thanks for the heads
up on that.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
One.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Really appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
The lines are open. The number is eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. The text is nine two nine two
or ZBZB from your mobile phone and if you'd like
to email me, it's Pete ATNEWSTALKZB dot co dot Nz.
Will take your calls as we always do, right through
till eight thirty. Then it's a change of gear and
we're into the wonderful world of entomology, wonderful world of
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bugs and the garden with red climb pass from about
eight thirty this morning. Liz, Good morning, Ah.
Speaker 17 (43:40):
Good morning Alli. My query is we have a about
two years ago had a deck built out the back
which is about ten meters by about seven meters.
Speaker 18 (43:53):
A third of it is covered.
Speaker 17 (43:55):
By an arch goler. Yeah, and it's exposed to the harbor.
Speaker 19 (43:59):
Ere.
Speaker 17 (44:00):
We had a deck oil applied to it at the time,
which has now grayed off unfortunately, and we need to
obviously protect it and recoat it. I just one the
other thing that has happened with it. There seems to
be some minor cupping has happened.
Speaker 20 (44:23):
With those areas.
Speaker 17 (44:25):
So I'm just and it's now grayed off, so um, yes,
and we won't get that golden color back again. So
it's built made of grapper and yeah, so I'm just
wondering what we do to prep it and what we
use to recoat it.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Okay, Typically the recommendation is that once you've started with
our system, you stick with that system. So whatever you
used two years ago or whatever someone else used two
years ago, I would recommend that you stay with that
because otherwise there can be compatibility issues where you know
products will react with each other. In terms of preparation,
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there are some prepar prietary deck washes. So Razine, for example,
have a solution that you can add into water, apply it,
give it a light scrub, and agitate with a not
a hard broom, but a kind of stiff bristled broom.
Leave that for a while, rinse it off. I love
(45:27):
water blasting all day long. Not great to do on timber.
So you can use power wash, sure, you know stand back,
use that to rinse it off. But it's the chemical
treatment that will clean off all of that moss and
mildew that collects there, opens up the spores, let that dry,
and then apply the oil that you've got. The cupping
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of the boards is not really a lot that you
can do about that. Once timber moves, it tends to
stay moved basically, so unless it's really really bad, it
might settle down. As you apply some coating, it sort
of you know, releases the It adds a bit of
moisture and to the timber, and it might settle down.
(46:08):
But otherwise I think, unless it's really really bad, I
would just if you could live with the cupping, that'll
be that'll be ideal.
Speaker 17 (46:17):
Quick query under the arch gold area where some of
it you can still see is slightly golden. Yes, deck
wash prep would that takes that off so it's an
even cower or is there something else.
Speaker 14 (46:30):
We need to use?
Speaker 21 (46:31):
No?
Speaker 3 (46:31):
I think I'm in all reality, you know, where you've
got an area where timber has been exposed versus an
area where timber is not exposed. The timber weathers differently,
and what you're seeing there is difference in weathering due
to exposure to sun and rain and so on, so
that it's just the timber has changed. I think it
(46:53):
would be, yeah, be unrealistic of me to say it'll
all look the same, given that you know it's it's
been exposed to the elements for two years, right, timber
is alive even though it's dead. You know, it continues
to change depending on the conditions it's subjected to.
Speaker 17 (47:12):
And is there a recommended number of coats that you
would put on to protect it.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I think, especially with an oil, what you'll find is
that if it's you know, like in an area where
it's been exposed, it will accept more oil and you'll
notice that you apply it and it's sort of you
can just almost see it sucking in to the timber.
And then if you were to apply a little bit more,
it will still be absorbed into the timber, but at
(47:37):
a slower rate. And in the other area where it's
less exposed, you might find that just one coat and
it'll take longer to absorb into the timber. So it's
just a balancing there of going if it will accept
a little bit more, give it a little bit more,
and where it won't, then don't apply too much. It'll
it'll saturate and be saturated and you'll get a sense
(47:59):
of that. Okay, alrighty, lovely journey. Thank you all the best,
Take care of your news. Talk CP lines are open
at eight hundred eighty the number to call leap here.
Good morning, good morning, greetings, greasings.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
Look at us calling we we've we've had our home
on the market and we had an offer from a
developer which we accepted. Now on all we assume he's
going to bowl our house yep, and and build what
my apartments or townhouses are. Now the agents have got
(48:44):
back to us to tell us that he's hit a
stalemate with a neighbor who has I think it is
the storm water on her side of our boundary.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
And is.
Speaker 8 (48:56):
Kind of non complained to provide consent. Right now, Why
does that leave us? I mean things like and by
all accounts, the developer doesn't appear to be pursuing a present.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Right Okay, so where are you at. So have you
had an offer for your property from the developer, but
that offer obviously has not gone unconditional. So a deposit
hasn't been paid or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Okay, it was to be paid, but it's it's gone
over date.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah, okay, all right, So an offer was made, you
accepted the offer, but it hasn't gone unconditional. It hasn't
been countersigned essentially by the developer or by the new owner.
Speaker 8 (49:57):
So not the new owner of the neighbor.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, so I'm putting myself in the developer's shoes, right.
So the developers interested in the piece of land, They've
come to you, They've they've worked out a price, They've
as part of their due diligence, they've gone to the
neighbor and said, hey, look, you've got access to the
storm water. I'm interested in the property extore. Will I
(50:24):
be able to get access to your property to do
the storm water? And the neighbors said no, basically, in
which case.
Speaker 8 (50:31):
Details as to why, the details we haven't been given. Yeah,
we haven't been given detailed as to why.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
She has not, And to be fair, as as a homeowner,
she doesn't have to give details, right, No one has
to accept developers living next doore or buying land next door.
So she's probably looking to protect her property by not
having a development next door, and a simple way of
doing that is to go, I'm just not going to
(51:00):
give permission. Now, there are there are pathways for the
developer to pursue in terms of going to counsel and
effectively forcing access to that property. Typically what developers would
do is they go to the property and go, hey, look,
I'm going to do this. Would you accept this one
off payment?
Speaker 21 (51:21):
You know?
Speaker 3 (51:22):
And then people go, sure, I'll take five grand, ten grand,
twenty grand, fifty grand whatever.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
It's going to be like olive branch.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, pretty much. Right, you've got something that they want. Typically,
the way that we do these things is we exchange money. Right,
So if the developer is not prepared to pay the
neighbor for access, then he's probably they are looking at
it going I can't be bothered with with it. There's
too much risk involved in me settling on a property
(51:51):
if I don't know that I can do the development
because I can't deal with the storm water or that's
the simplest stormwater solution and if I have to do
a more complicated solution, which might involve, you know, digging
or thrusting for meeters and meeters and meters to connect
somewhere else, or installing a pump and all the rest
(52:11):
of it. You know, I've got a five thousand dollar
fix or I've got a one hundred thousand dollar ficks
what do you? You know that sort of thing. So
I guess you could go to the neighbor. But the
neighbor's also entitled to tell you that she's they're not interested.
Speaker 8 (52:31):
Right, No, I mean we'd go and offer maybe five thousand,
we'd take it off.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
You'd want to run that past your lawyer as well,
because you don't want to be in a situation where
you have offered money but then that the neighbor doesn't
then guarantee that whoever buys the property gets that you've
negotiated an agreement. Does that agreement then transfer to a
(53:01):
third party immediately? You'd want to know that, right, So
there's there's a little bit involved there. I in my
experience these sorts of things, either there's an initial offers,
here's some here's a payment. Right, we accept that it's disruptive,
(53:22):
but we need access to to your property in order
to get access to the public storm water line. The
neighbor at a certain point can be forced to grant
access in some cases, but that's quite a long process.
And again, if you're a developer and you've got however
much capital invested in that property and it's chewing your
(53:43):
arm off with a mortgage, you don't want to be
waiting a year to get it sorted out. You want
to be able to start building straight away. So that's
what that's about. Yeah, fascinating those kind of a your options.
That's that's where it's heating. Sorry, was there a question?
Speaker 8 (54:01):
There quite a common assurance.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
I think it's not uncommon, and it's certainly going to
become more common as intensification in our main cities increases.
So you know, it's often a case where particularly older
you know, in older or established suburbs, right, there's not
the infrastructure that allows for an easy connection. So you know,
(54:25):
I know of developers and builders who have had to
you know, potentially thrust forty or fifty meters in order
to get connection to a council storm water or they've
been told in order to get your consent, you've got
to upgrade the stormwater in the street, and then suddenly
they're you know, one hundred thousand dollars down because they've
(54:49):
had to upgrade everybody else's stormwater. It's not often in
older established suburbs that there happens to be public infrastructure
right on the boundary. That's what it is.
Speaker 8 (55:01):
Yeah, we are in an older established and that's what happens. Yeah,
but I mean they're flipping over property. Is like pancakes
around here. This huge development all over the show. And
I was thinking, well, you know, and much.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Of that will be you know, the developer goes to
the you know, they're interested in your section, They knock
on the door, they have a nice chat. They go, look,
it's you know, two meters in from the boundary is
the public line. I need to get access to that.
I've got to put a man hole in. I'm going
to make a connection. We might rip up part of
your garden, but I'll replant it. I'll do all of
(55:40):
these sorts of things. Thank you for your consideration. Can
I offer you X number of dollars and a lot
a lot of people go sure, and some people say no,
and that's their right.
Speaker 8 (55:53):
Okay, So my work and argue we can go and
pay them at present.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
You could, but I again, in fact, I was. I was,
actually I was at a funeral to talking with a
lawyer who happens to listen to the show when he's
going to Mass in the morning, and so I'm sure
he would appreciate Tony, if you're listening, Tony would probably
appreciate me saying, make sure you talk to your lawyer
(56:20):
as well. Lovely to talk to an EP. You take
care all of this, all of us bother.
Speaker 8 (56:25):
Then.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
I have to say, it's always slightly nervous. I get
a little bit nervous when I'm at an event. In
this case, it was a funeral, and I was talking
to Tony, who I've known for a number of years,
and he said, I listened to the show, and I'm like,
oh man, you must cringe every time I sort of
offer up my bush lawyer's opinion. But yes, in this event,
(56:47):
go and talk to your lawyer, Tony. I hope you're
having a great day. It is twenty one minutes after seven.
Will take a break. We'll be back with Bonnie in
just a moment.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Doing other house sorting the garden asked Pete for ahead
the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call OH eight News
Talks Envy.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Just to wrap up the conversation, want them here. A
moment ago, someone has very succinctly summarized the situation. The
neighbor probably said no because she doesn't want six three
story townhouses looking into her backyard and blocking your son
and dropping the value of her house. You're probably right,
Thanks for that, Kevin. And look, some people kind of
(57:27):
accept that intensifications coming. Some people don't. But in the end,
if you're the property owner, you do get to decide.
Although there are mechanisms whereby you know, if intensification is
allowed through planning and zoning, then developers can apply through
counsel and through planning for access to you can't actually,
(57:51):
well no, I'd better check this. My understanding is that
you can't unreasonably withhold access to a public service. If
there's public stormwater and someone needs access and they've got
permission to do the development, but it can take a
long time for that to happen. Oh eight one hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number. Call Bonnie. Hello there,
(58:14):
good morning, Peter. How are your readings?
Speaker 13 (58:16):
I'm very well awesome.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
Awesome.
Speaker 7 (58:18):
Have a quick question. Sure, we are putting up a verandah,
And in my female brain, I thought I would stain
the wood before I put the PBC roofing on. And
I have stained it all charcoal and so that I
don't get charcoal on the PVC roothing.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Gotcha?
Speaker 7 (58:40):
And now I read the PVC blue and it should
be painted white. The tops should be painted white. Do
I need to go and paint the top of the
pearlins and rafters white? Or am I overacting?
Speaker 3 (59:01):
It's interesting that they I suppose. The question is the
recommendation from the manufacturer to paint it white because there
is you know, something about the reflective nature of other
colors that might impact on the durability longevity of the PVC.
(59:21):
Or is it simply that it means that if someone's
looking at their product and they see all these dark
lines behind it, it's going to be less attractive. So
it would depend on whether the recommendation from the manufacturer
is about durability as opposed to appearance. If it's just
about appearance, it's your house. You can do what you like, right,
But if it's if it is a like I say,
(59:43):
durability issue. You could just call the manufacturer, well the distributor,
and say, look, is there a particular reason you've done that.
Have you now completed the structure, stained that which is sensible,
and then applied the PVC coating.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
Or the.
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Roofing.
Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
So I was reading through it right, it means I've
got to get up and pay the top of everything white.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I think it would be worth phoning the distributor or
the manufacturer of the product and just going, look, can
you just explain to me what the rationale is for
the recommendation and if it's if it impacts on the durability,
then yes, I would probably well you'd want to stick
with the manufacturer's recommendation. It might be that they're concerned
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about let's say, the product reacting with the treatment or
with the coating. So for example, the coating when it
gets hot might become flexible or dissolve or something like that,
and so in which case it might be as simple
as putting a white tape over the top. So rather
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than having to go and paint it all, you could
just apply like a white tape or a bandage to
the top that you won't see from below. But that
meets the manufacturer's recommendation.
Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
Okay, because I have I have got the role of
tape that you put under the PVC for flexibility. I
wonder if that will be I'll give them a call.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I think just because you know, it's one of those
things that it's understanding why the recommendations are made right,
and that will give you a guidance as to what
you should now do. But either way, it's not going
to be a complex fix.
Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Awesome, lovely to chat with. You take care of them
by way your news talk c B. Someone someone's talking
about my obsession with water blasting. I don't know that
I have an obception with it, but no one can
argue that water blasting is not intensely satisfying occupation right
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or undertaking, or activity or past time or hobby. I
don't mind how you describe it. If if you've got
a grimy surface and you've got a water blaster, it's
like happy days. Can you do a reparable damage to
the surfaces? Yes you can if you're a bit of
a wild head muppet and you just attack it. That's
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not the approach. But in terms of cleaning surfaces, they
are wonderful things. Pete says the stecks to your auder
blasting obsession, especially on concrete, is the most damaging process
for concrete next to acid ishing. It removes the hardest
part of the concrete. This leads to further damage and
the need to repeat. Best to scrub with low pressure water.
I agree it's not as much fun, but I agree.
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Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, might take a break,
then we'll come chat with Alan. If you've got a
question of building nature, please call us, Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering
how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter
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Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
And amongst the other texts that have arrived, any has
text me anything. Thank you very much for your text.
It's appreciated and I'll pass it on. So thanks very
much for that radio. Where are we at, Let's talk
to Ellen. Good morning, Ellen, come.
Speaker 14 (01:03:21):
Very well, very good.
Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
I'm getting a new two new heres is built up
alongside me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yes and.
Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I think since dagno sections out there's a lot
of water right when it rains, it runs out in
the foot path away was out. But when finished and
the wall between neighbors would be fix the answer.
Speaker 18 (01:03:54):
Wouldn't it.
Speaker 9 (01:03:56):
If you want coming on to my property, if theaved
my water down onto these properties.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Yeah, although you know, if the developer next door has
chained the water flow, they need to control it. It
shouldn't be your responsibility to do it. So, you know,
once the developed, I mean there's always that period of
time when you know the works are underway. Obviously developers,
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builders need have a responsibility to control storm water during construction,
so silt fences and temporary controls. Then once the house
is established, you know, there's often a period of time
where the roof goes on, maybe the spoutings on, but
they haven't done the downpipes, they haven't done the drainage,
and that's that's always a bit challenging to control that.
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But once the buildings are nearing completion, you would expect
that all of the storm water, all of the stormwater
that falls on the ground is controlled in some way.
It shouldn't be directed to you. I've certainly seen developers
who seemingly don't understand that. You know, you can't just
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put a great, big concrete d iway on and have
the edge of that shedding water to the neighbor. Should
have a swale or a channel or a curb that
channels the water to and approve stormwater. I did see
one the other day where a long driveway was done
and seemingly at the end there was no stormwater collection whatsoever,
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which I challenged and went, I don't know how you
got away with that, but anyway, so no, Look, I
would expect allan that once, once it's done, they should
control it. Shouldn't be your responsibility to control stormwater discharge
from a neighbor, So I'd take that approach. All the
best of you and Jess, good morning to you. Hello Jess,
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good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
How are you going?
Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Okay? Thank you?
Speaker 14 (01:05:56):
Nice?
Speaker 20 (01:05:57):
Hey, great kind of buyers market At the moment, I've
been looking at a few different places and coughing up
deeper sections and I have no idea where to start
with retaining walls or protective barriers on those sort of
deeper sections, but that have great views. So yeah, wondering
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if you had any insights or where to even start
with that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Well, I mean, look, we she was where to start?
I mean there's so many things going through my head.
One is, look at what's happened and the tragedies that
have happened in the last couple of weeks, right, Yeah,
and it has to be and I say that with
the greatest of respect because you know, was it Six
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people in one location, two people in another have lost
their lives in the last two weeks, right as a
result of landslips. So it's understandable that councils, geotechnical engineers,
builders and so on are cautious around it because when
it does go wrong, it can go wrong in a
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way that will end life, right, and there's nothing more
tragic than that. So and so, if you're looking at
sections and you're going yets, it's not a bad price
because it's steep, it's probably because it might be because
others have looked at that and gone it's just not
worth the risk or the cost of controlling that risk
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is very high, because again there's if you're an engineer, right, so,
you've found a lovely piece of land, it's reasonably steep.
Maybe there's been a geological or geotech survey done on it,
but possibly not, So you don't necessarily know whether the
slope is stable, whether it's prone to landslips, and all
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the rest of it. So if you didn't know that
before you bought the section, you're taking that risk. I
guess if you were looking at a section that had
had a geotex survey done and they found that, you know,
it's relatively stable, or that it made some suggestions for
ways in which you could create a building platform that
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wouldn't then be subject to landslides, that would be all
of this is about risk, right, and risk typically the
way to a mediate it is money. So if you
end up spending ten thousand dollars to do some minor
retaining works, that's great. But if you bought it and
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suddenly the bill is one hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
then it's no longer a cheap section.
Speaker 20 (01:08:43):
No, exactly, and I mean broadly speaking aside from the
Geotech report, do people approach different places first and go
get an idea of what could be done with it?
You know, it's kind of there's there's so many options
when you're starting from a.
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Blank slate, right, yes, there are, But then we also
you know, it circles back to risk. So let's say
You're standing at the roadway looking up at a section
with a geotech engineer and you go, is it okay? Well,
they're going to go, I'm not going to tell you
not without undertaking reports and investigations and and you know,
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all of those sorts of things, because if you're going
to rely on their response, their their information, they're going
to want to make sure that it's correct. And they're
also going to want to de risk the situation for them.
And typically we de risk things by making sure that
this will work, but this will be better, so let's
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do better, you know. So, yeah, you can see how
these things get really complicated, and you know, it could
be that it's absolutely fine, but in some case you
just don't know. And are all of the locations where
these slips have occurred kind of predictable in hindsight maybe,
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but you know, development occurs in areas that slips have happened,
and you know, just think about the last five or
six years, there have been any number of slips that
have happened across the country that have caused loss of life.
So you can understand why people are incredibly cautious.
Speaker 20 (01:10:24):
M Yeah, I totally get that, and I guess there's
lots of lots of different things that you have to
mitigate first before you even start getting ideas for yes
quotes and things.
Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yeah, so you know, again, it's not it's not clear,
right because there is These things are phenomenally complex, and
when you approach an expert for their advice, they're always
going to be cautious and understandably.
Speaker 20 (01:10:54):
So mm hmmm, yeah, no, for sure, No, thank.
Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
You, good luck on the house hunting, all right, take
care all of this. It's been part of my week
as well, amongst a whole lot of other things this
week is actually settling and selling a property which was
kind of interesting and it sounds weird, but it's the
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first property I've ever sold or we've ever sold that
was weird as well. And anyway, that was that was Friday,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is that number to
call seven forty two here at news TALKSB. We'll take
a break, We'll talk to Joe in just a moment.
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.
Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder
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Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Your News Talks hed bet is seven forty five and Joe,
good morning.
Speaker 18 (01:11:50):
Good morning, Hey there, Joe, I just have a.
Speaker 8 (01:11:53):
I just have a question.
Speaker 18 (01:11:54):
We've going to weather board at home, and it's some
built in the fifties and on the corners you notice
there's quite a bit of cracking, And I was looking
at putting those little metal angle brackets over the corners, yes,
and wondering whether it's worthwhile putting a bead of siligan
down each edge when I do that to prevent any
morsture getting attained in there.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Typically I mean so corner soakers. So if it's interesting
that it's an older house that didn't do socas, so
they must have been very meticulous around their compound miters
to have them come together.
Speaker 18 (01:12:30):
So yeah, you do notice a bit of cracking.
Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, sure, not unexpectedly after it's getting on seventy years,
isn't it soacas Yes, Now that one of the practical
challenges with doing them is that obviously the soca all
all bit very thin, like a millimeter and a half
of metal. You're still going to have to slide that
up under the board above, in which case you'll have
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to move each of those rows of boards as you
insert them. So I would start from I'd start from
the bottom and work my way up, So get the
bottom soker on and then maybe just with a chisel
on either edge, just wedge the chisel underneath the board
to create a gap. Slide the next soka in. Take
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those chisels out, move up, Move up. I actually wouldn't
do sealant because one of the other things that sealant
does when it's used in the wrong location is trap
moisture inside.
Speaker 18 (01:13:28):
Yeah, that was my concern as well.
Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
With it.
Speaker 18 (01:13:31):
It would actually, in fact not be beneficial but the detrimental.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
So I've seen it sometimes with flashings where like especially
like I plumbing fittings and that sort of thing. Plumbers
who know what they're doing will often do a bead
of sealant around the top and down the sides, but
not at the bottom, so that in the event that
some moisture gets in, it can drain out. And I
think it's you know, the house has obviously been durable
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for as long as it has. Adding the soakas without
the silicon will be absolutely fine. Okay, no trouble at all.
Speaker 18 (01:14:04):
I will go and do it all right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Just it's a time consuming job. The other consideration is
if you're in a sea spray zone, is it you know,
you'd look at it and go, is it worth investing
in stainless steel corner soakers as opposed to GalF.
Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 18 (01:14:22):
No, where we're a good kilometer probably about two k
from so no, we're in Nelson, so yeah, sure, and
there's not a lot of them. Yeah cool, But just
noticed that that the areas that has facing the sun, yes,
quite quickly. Where is the other corner?
Speaker 8 (01:14:40):
So fine?
Speaker 22 (01:14:41):
Yep.
Speaker 18 (01:14:41):
And I was given a.
Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Whole pile and that's we'll use them up.
Speaker 18 (01:14:48):
Well having to pay two backs each and yeah, and
and the other thing.
Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
And because I actually I had to do some this week,
just some flat soakers and they're just galvanized ones. And
I thought, before I pick them up, what I'll do
is I just had some you know, Russkill spray paint
that sort of thing, and I just gave them a
quick coat of spray paint before I put them up,
because that's saving me having to prime them once they're up.
Speaker 18 (01:15:11):
Okay, so yeah, you do that. Because I had to
trim a.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Couple, yeah that's okay, Well on that exposed edge, then.
Speaker 18 (01:15:16):
On the bottom, on the bottom edge.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Give that a little bit of a lick of a
rustproof primer and that'll just stop any you know, that
diminish the possibility that you get a little bit of.
Speaker 18 (01:15:30):
Rust on the end there, right, And would you would
you undercoat the insign as well?
Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Probably unnecessary to be fair, Yeah, yeah, that's what I
was saying.
Speaker 18 (01:15:40):
All right, all right, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
One of those lovely afternoon jobs where you just give
yourself the time to do it, you know, don't don't rush.
Speaker 18 (01:15:52):
Yeah, from a serious foot injury. So I've got all
the time in the world, all right.
Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Well, I couldn't think of a better thing to do
than enjoy doing some sokas while you're waiting for your
foot to get better.
Speaker 8 (01:16:04):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 18 (01:16:05):
Yeah, that's quite all.
Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
The very best you, Joe, take care all of us,
You and news storks. They'd be standing for a long
time while I foot injury anyway. Go well, go well, Joe.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a
question of building nature, we can talk all things building
and construction. Other text that's come through this is about
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ground levels and water and so on. They're talking about
a new build area where there is a massive amount
of intensification the new builds, they raise the ground level
a few meters to build a flat building platform can
help their view, but it does in some cases force
the water onto other people's properties, which is okuess not
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that great. But you know, developers well, as part of planning,
you have to be able to show how you're going
to control storm water, and not just stormwater that's collected
from the roofs, but in on driveways and hard surfaces.
So you know, if you find that you've got to
developer undertaking their activity next door to you and they
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haven't done that, then I think go to council or
request a copy of the plans because my experience, they've
all that's what they have to do. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty this text, Pete, that's part of the problem.
We're talking about land, you know, like sloping sections now,
and you have to be cognizant of the fact that
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I'm thinking back to the rain that we had in Auckland. Gee,
their anniversary of that's just a couple of days ago,
isn't it, twenty third of January twenty twenty three, And
there was landslips that caused loss of life. Obviously, we've
had that tragic incident in Tolroonga and at Papamore with
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the loss of life there. You know, we've We're an
active and young country geologically, so things are going to move.
And when it moves in such a way that it
causes loss of life, you can understand what engineers, planners
and so on are going to become increasingly risk averse
(01:18:20):
changing weather patterns as well, you can see what the
issues are. Yeah, someone's text about you know, sort of
areas where a lot of soil sitting on a very
hard surface that becomes saturated, it's prone to movement. You
may here to comment, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
The lines are open. If you've got a text for
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a for me, that's great, or you can simply call
eight hundred eighty ten eighty And I'm just trying to
circle through. What about the control of land around the
property in question? Yes, that's this. This links back to
Jess's thing of let's say you buy a section and
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it might be sloping and you do some work on yours,
what about adjoining or adjacent sections or probably more importantly,
the ones above it as well. She Wellington not surprisingly
had some issues where you know, a water pipe burst
and that then caused a minor landslip sufficient to damage
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a house. So again, or the landslip happened, then the
water pipe burst, then you've got flooding as well as
the landslip. So who's responsible in those situations? Who's going
to tidy that up? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call Pete. Well, they've done the
whole full title high Pete resident builder. We've got a
pine deck. It was spray stained about twenty years ago.
(01:19:44):
It's been left to weather. Now we wish to make
it look better. In parts there's very old stain and
other parts it's weather bear as in it's it's completely
faded away. Recommended method and razine product to cover those
areas water based or oil stain thoroughling. So with a
proprietary deck wash agitate with a brush, rinse off, let
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that dry and apply. I would probably go for a
water born seala over the top of that and then
that is your maintenance coat from there because with the
waterborne applications you can add a little bit of color
in there. So if it has some an area, whether
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it's become discolored or faded. You could add a little
bit of color because you've got color in the surface
prepara in the sealer that you want to use radio.
There were no landslips. There was not There was landslips. Ah,
someone's correcting my grammar, to be fair. Not my biggest
concern right now. It is seven forty five. I think
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we'll play some music up to the break. We've got
new Sport and where the top of the hour at
eight o'clock Red Climb passed in from eight thirty. But
we'll talk all things building after New Sport and where
the top of the rat.
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I'm just not lugging my belly there.
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Amsday passed off on the Printed in a Day, Day.
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Said she dance this good.
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You do that now, I'm just like Monday.
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Just we're helping you get those di y projects done right.
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Talk said.
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I did hit the button, but button doesn't seem to
We're working to h to the bosses right O. Good morning,
welcome back to the show. My name is Pete wolf Camp,
resident Builder, and this is the Resident Builder on Sunday,
on today, the first of February already, so we're cracking along.
But hey, folks, it's a short week, so Friday being
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white Tonguey Day, we can well do whatever you feel
like doing to celebrate white tonguey Day. It is time
for your calls. We'll take building calls right through till
around eight thirty or maybe a little bit before then,
and then will join us right through till news again
Top of the hour at nine o'clock radio again. A
(01:23:36):
couple of texts any Robin Jim, thank you very much
for your texts. There was also a text earlier on
about it was in a hall, so it's effectively a
public space where the group wanted to change an inward
opening door to an outward opening door, and did they
need a building consent for that? I think you might
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because it's part of your fire system. So if it's
a public space and it's getting a building warrant of
fitness and or changing something that's part of the egress
in the event of a fire, I think that would
typically doors. You can change a door without necessarily getting
a building consent. If it's part of a fire system
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or part of any other system, then typically you'd need
to get a consent. So I know that that's an
extra couple of hoops for you to jump through as
a community group looking after that community hall, But I'm
pretty sure that you'll need a consent for that work.
Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number to call. We've done the decking, we've talked about
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new builds, talked a little bit about I guess the
risk of, you know, will some land I suppose we
we're getting to is will some land be uneconomic to
develop because of the risks of landslips and so on
into the future. And I think that's a real possibility.
(01:25:01):
In the same way that councils seem to finally be
accepting the fact that some areas flood and they flood
a lot, and we're having more and more floods, therefore
allowing development in those areas that shouldn't be permissible. The
other interesting story, and it is my apologies to people
outside of Auckland, a bit of an Auckland story is
of course around Plan Change one point twenty. So this
(01:25:24):
was the initial thing from Chris Bishop and the government
going right, Auckland, you've got to make provision for two
million extra houses. There's going to be a back down
on that. My understanding is that meetings are underway and
there'll be some announcement around that. It seemed a bit
preposterous anyway, not saying that there might not be two
million people in Auckland in the future, but having to
(01:25:45):
prepare for it right now. We do, but we kind
of don't anyway. It gets there'll be some changes there
and we might might even go and talk to the
Minister about that at some stage. But we'll keep an
eye on that story as well. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Oh, now there was a I'll make a
note to South a text about the Granny flats as well.
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I'll try and get to that in a minute too. Gary,
greetings to.
Speaker 18 (01:26:08):
You, good morning, Okay, what's up.
Speaker 21 (01:26:13):
First of all, my condolences with the passing of your mother.
Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Thank you for that. I appreciate your thoughts and for
reaching out and saying that. Thank you.
Speaker 21 (01:26:29):
My question is, as you're probably aware of, they're now
situating water heaters outside. Yes, for some strange reason which
is beyond my comprehension. Anyway we could disguise it and
not spend too much money on it.
Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
I think that there's a number of sort of proprietary
systems you can get, like lightweight aluminium pre codd systems
where it acts as a screen. The thing with sort
of disguising some of these units, and it's a little
bit like disguising let's say the outdoor unit for a
heat pump, for example, is that you have to ensure
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a certain amount of airflow. So as long as whatever
you do doesn't either overheat a cylinder or restrict ventilation,
then yes, And there are, like I say, some powder
coated aluminium systems, louvers and slattered systems that you can
just bolt around them.
Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 21 (01:27:28):
Well as for a person my laid eighty, I would
even attempt to do it. But where I've asked what
sort of a tradesman, where I asked to actually.
Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
A really good question Gary. This hot water system, it's
a hot water cylinder that's been recently added to the exterior.
Speaker 21 (01:27:48):
Is that right now we bought displace. It's the outside
where there's a place is all the same design and
plan I should say, in size, and they're all the same.
But I just want to try and disguise mine I
to find it rather have seen. To be quite honest,
I don't know what I know. They're probably trying to
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produce and this, you know, taking up space inside, but
it seems incomprehensible to me why they did it.
Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Yeah, some of the I mean, look, you might be
lucky enough to have some of these super energy efficient
heat pump hot water cylinder attached to your property, in
which case they are awesome and it's a huge benefit
to you. It might just be a standard hot water
cylinder that's now outside because they do take up you know,
the convention ones take a bit of space inside. I
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mean you could try and go back to the developer
and go, look, do you have a contact Otherwise, people
that do like aluminium fencing and that type of thing.
They would probably have access to them.
Speaker 21 (01:28:59):
Yeah, of course, we've got to bear in mind that,
you know, the plumber at least could want to attend
to it. Future They wouldn't want to impede then.
Speaker 17 (01:29:08):
Would you.
Speaker 21 (01:29:09):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
But then it's something you know, if it's got some
tech screws in it, that a couple of you know,
screws and you can undo the panel for it maintenance access.
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 19 (01:29:18):
Yeah, okay, good luck.
Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
But probably a fencing contractor who does sort of aluminium
panels that sort of thing would be the guy's Edge
Smith's might be a company there you go, right, Russell,
good morning.
Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
I'm just wondering what was the product you used on
your spouting when you came back from Europe.
Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Oh okay, thanks. It was actually just right at the
end of an internal box cutter. It's in zincaloom. It's
got some fall on it. Obviously something's moved over a
period of time and there's just a little bit of
a dip there, so it was holding water. I'd been
on the roof a year ago, hadn't noticed it, but
there it is. So I got some stuff called injuris
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e N d u R. There's a distributor in Auckland,
and I just went up did some very you know,
I'm just flown all the way from Los Angeles. You know,
I didn't want to spend a lot of time up there.
Did some very basic rust prep applied that and we've
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had some rain, no problems at all. So injuris is
what you're looking for there?
Speaker 8 (01:30:30):
And do you why I brush it off?
Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
I just why brush the loose bit off the top?
I think if I guess, my intention is probably at
some stage maybe to actually replace the gatto. It's twenty
years old. I mean, it's actually in not bad condition.
And when what this does is gives me the surety
that every time it rains, I don't have to worry
about it leaking anymore, because it certainly solved the problem.
Speaker 16 (01:30:57):
Oh yes, I'm a very good tea, no trouble at all.
Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Take care all the very best to you. I'll search
for this other text. That was a great one, and
I've got a couple of emails that i'll address as well.
It is coming up fifteen minutes after eight here at
Newstalks edb.
Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Measure twice God was But maybe call Pete first feed
Wolfgaff the resident Builder News talks EDB you.
Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
A NEWSTALKSB And actually the text that I wanted to
get to is with regard to the granny flat. So
I text a couple of weeks ago, says the texter.
I've done some research and even spoken to council. We're
in a heritage area in Auckland Council they said they
don't need any consultation. The judy planner said, it's only
the process online that needs to be followed. I letting
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the council know meeting their requirements like heightened relation to
boundary providing a PS three. It's quite remarkable as it
makes a project a third of the cost it usually
would be. I'm thinking about getting a converted container from
the Hawks Bay from a firm there some planting around
it to keep it, to keep it in keeping with
the surroundings. It will be interesting to see how that
(01:32:08):
goes once you actually hit the legislation and the compliance
and so on. But hey, look that's the intent of
the legislation.
Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
And just on the.
Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Gary's comments, they're about, you know, wanting to hide essential
appliance is like an external hot water cylinder. Some of
this text through Hide it now hide it do covers
for heat pump units. Possibly they'll do an extended version
for hot water cylinder or something similar. But you know,
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it's one of those things. This is the beauty of
commerce and capitalism. I guess a problem typically requires a solution.
Solution becomes a business opportunity, and that's what people have done,
which is awesome. Thank you very much for those texts
that have come through. Rod. Greetings to you.
Speaker 19 (01:32:55):
Yeah, yeah, good morning. I have a man shed and
it's a beautiful shed. It's a still frame, and but
it's getting so hot. Yes, have you got any recommendations
to sort of get the temperature down like a roof
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vent or. I can't put any any extra windows or
anything on it because I've got the walls with shelves.
Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Sorry, I'm only laughing because your shed and my workshop
sound identical, right, And I did some work on mine.
It used to have an overhang and that was all open, right,
and so that provided ventilation. And last year I thought, right,
I'm going to hang some facier, I'm going to put
some saffitita in there, I'm going to put some spouting
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on it. For the first time. But now I've got
no ventilation because I don't open the door because I've
got shelves in front of that. I closed off the
access of the back because i've got shells in front
of that. I've got one side door. It is as
hot as hades in there. So I'm like, you say,
you can't put window. I think a roof fence is
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probably your best option, right, So one of those sort
of twirly riches caps type thing to just allow air
to draw out. I've got a little fan that I
put in there to get a bit of ventilation, but
I'm not getting air in so I reckon a roof
fence is probably quite a good solution for you. But
I quite literally feel your pain. I know exactly what
you mean. Roof finger, by the way, but I have
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this picture of Rod's shed looking exactly like my workshop,
which is every single wall surface is covered in either
shelves or hanging storage or whatever. But it's full. There
ain't no space for windows. Biggest shed I think might
be the answer for me, right Norm Greetings.
Speaker 18 (01:34:52):
Hello Peter.
Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
Just a bit and so on.
Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Some unconsented kind of work I've got where I live.
I've owned a place. Well, it's about one hundred and
twenty five years old, but it's starting to show itself
age and rusty, you know, untreated, galvanized nails and kind
of were the boards and bits and pieces are falling
off her, you know, with disrusting. Yes, sitting up at
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about about one point two meters sitting up on some
old Belgium tram rails. Wow, and yeah, well I've been
here about forty years and due to certain things mental illness,
lack of money, I just keep patching, you know, as
bits go underneath, I just keep patching them up, and
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you know, illegally obviously, And.
Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Well, you know, can I just addrest that in the
sense that, you know, when we talk about unconsented work,
that's work that needed a consent at a time when
consents could be issued. If you're talking about one hundred
and twenty year old building, pretty much beat your bottom
dollar that they didn't go and get a building consent
for that, right, So you can't have unconsent at work
(01:36:06):
if there was never a consent that should have been issued.
Right now, that doesn't mean that work that you undertake
doesn't need to comply with the building code today. That's
a that's a requirement. But you know, I wouldn't go
around beating myself up about doing work on a property
(01:36:29):
that never had a building consent and feeling that it's
unconsented work.
Speaker 10 (01:36:32):
So yeah, since then, I've done a few modifications without permission,
taken a bit.
Speaker 16 (01:36:39):
Of a wall.
Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
So everything that I just said, just throw that out because.
Speaker 10 (01:36:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know you're not there
to give legal advice one way or the other. The
point is, you know, it's about seven weeks in the roof.
Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
You know, Okay, that's repairs and maintenance, which you probably
need to get onto.
Speaker 10 (01:37:02):
Yeah, but I'm thinking, you know, I don't want to
do the roof the forty forty five grand and then
get a demolition order from them, you know what I mean, because.
Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
It's unlikely that everyone's going to come along and give
you a demolition order. I think you've really got to
get off side with the council before they get to
that stage.
Speaker 10 (01:37:19):
So well, I've got no shower.
Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
You're saying that you are getting off side with counsel.
I'm not sure where this is heating, norm I'm not
sure where this is heading. But and I'm under the
pump so let's let's pick this up again some other time.
I want to get onto red in just a moment, Nick,
great things very quickly. What's up.
Speaker 22 (01:37:41):
I've just built a floating deck in the corner, and
I've got to do a whole bunch of leveling. I've
leveled off the main deck of the house, which is
all good, but I've got to do some excavation work.
And I'm just wondering about the side pieces for the deck,
the side facings. Yes, whether I should hold off putting
those on until I've finished all the excavation.
Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Well, in terms of to ensure that they don't get damaged.
Are you're going to excavate with a digger, Well, if I.
Speaker 22 (01:38:11):
Can get one in, but otherwise it's going to be
mostly by hand.
Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
But a hand digging, Yeah, if it's about access, then yes,
leaves them off for as long as possible. Do you
need to lower the ground level in order.
Speaker 22 (01:38:23):
To do the deck, No, I've already done that part.
It's like the rest of the area, and I don't
know exactly where the grass level is going to finish
quite yet.
Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
And in terms of having the grass abutting, is the
grass going to come up and abt the deck, So
you'd want to make sure that you've got a little
bit of a gap between you're framing and maybe a
retaining wall, just so that there's you're not sucking moisture
into the framing of the deck.
Speaker 22 (01:38:51):
Yeah, and that was my I suppose my final question
was the best to have the facing board finish, say
an inch or two above?
Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, great, yeah, and I would just you know,
you could use like a bit of tantalized retaining timber,
so so h four timber, and if you want it
to sort of disappear, just paint it black and then
bring your grass or your landscaping up to their leave
a gap of at least twenty mil and then have
your decking boards finished there. Because the other thing is
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that you know, if it is going to be grass
and you're using a line trimmer, you want the line
trimmer to hit your retaining boards rather than hitting your timbers.
It's those sorts of long term maintenance issues that you
want to deal with.
Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
Wonderful, thanks, better lovely to chat.
Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
You take care of all the best thing by by then. Right, Oh,
that wraps up the building part of the show. We're
on time today. Which is a little bit unusual for me.
Coming up twenty seven minutes after eight. We'll take the
break and we'll talk to Red Climb past in just a.
Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
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