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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
Camp from News Talks at b Measure twice call once
on eight hundred eighty ten eighty The Resident Builder with
Peter wolf Camp and Independent Building supplies the future of
Kiwi building Today.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
News Talks ab.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
A house sizzor even when it's dark, even when the
grass is overgrown in the yard, even when a dog
is too old barn and when you're sitting at the
table trying not to start scissor home even when we benne,

(00:57):
even when you're Thereone house is a home, even.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
When there's ghost, even when you got around from the
ones you love your most.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Scream dot broken paints, appeel in front of the world,
locals whisper when they're gone and leave the neighbor. House
is a home even when web bene, even when you're
there alone.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the
Resident Builder on Sunday, on this spectacular Sunday. It's an
awesome Sunday. It's a fantastic Sunday because on the screen
in front of me is the Netherlands playing Sweden, tuning
up for the Netherlands. At the moment, I have done
some redecoration in the studio. I'll pop a beleef phtograph
of that up on the old Facebook and Instagram a

(02:09):
little bit later on this morning. But hey, good morning.
We're not here to talk about football, although to be fair,
I would happily talk about football this morning, but we're
here to talk about building, all things building and construction
with me Pete wolf Camp, the resident builder here at
News Talks. There'd be as always on a Sunday morning.
So if you've got a question of a building nature,

(02:30):
and it can be pretty much anything you would like
it to be in terms of it's about the rules
and regulations. It's about the practical stuff. It's about working
with tradespeople, understanding contracts and the usefulness of contracts. And
that's been had a long conversation with a couple of

(02:51):
people about sort of the upcoming upcoming next year sometime
there will be mandatory warranties required for all new builds
and also for renovations over one hundred thousand dollars, and
that's going to change the landscape quite a bit in
terms of how you monitor your jobs, regulate your jobs,

(03:14):
provide evidence that the work has been compliant because somebody
is going to take the responsibility along with you, or
you're going to have to find someone as a builder,
as a main contractor someone who's going to essentially either
ensure you or offer a warranty on your behalf. So
it's going to change the landscape there because I am

(03:35):
going to disprove the fact that men apparently can't multitask.
I can do the show, but also keeping one eye,
just one on the television, I can also let you
know that the Netherlands are now three nil up over Sweden.
I have some very very dear friends who are traveling
in Europe at the moment. They are Swedish. I think

(03:55):
they're somewhere on a motorway in Germany. Hopefully they've pulled
off the motorway gone to a pub and they can
be watching the game as well. But look, I love it,
so let's get into it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. You can also
text that's nine two nine two, and you can email
as always Pete at Newstook sedb dot co dot nz.

(04:15):
So if you've got a question about building, about products,
about processes, and I think that's it's been a way
of describing building work for a little while now that
it's kind of process driven in the sense that there's
always a number of steps to getting to the end
of it. And I've been doing some sort of repairs

(04:36):
maintenance at ten into a little bit bigger job than
I thought, which is typical, isn't it, of renovations, Wanting
to tackle some a little bit of decay and peeling,
paintwork and that sort of thing. In a set of stairs.
Ended up taking the handrail off because the top rail
was a little bit rotten, and by the time we'd
figured out how much rot there was, it was better
to replace it, which meant taking all of the ballasters off,

(04:59):
which meant taking the new post off, which also had
a little bit of rotten it, and then trying to
you know, not be able to find a replacement, having
to try and repair it, which meant fetching out a
little bit of the rot, treating the areas that had
a little bit of decay in them with some timber preservative,
then adding some wood hardener, then adding some filler, then

(05:20):
shape filler. Ah. I love old houses, but boy, they
take some work. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call actually quick text. Someone's obviously a
little bit concerned about this, and they've they've text very
early this morning morning Peak. A bit nervous to chat
on the radio, but can you please tell me we're
the house that was built in nineteen ninety five and

(05:41):
have the gutters that sit inside the safits of the
house covered by a metal covering to make it look
like guttering when they block, when they block, what gets in?
Can these be changed to normal guttering? Please? This is
driving me nuts. I understand the concern and the the

(06:02):
angst that it would cause you. So there's a number
of brands that are out there, but typically we'd call
that system from the nineteen nineties class Facia, which is
you can see the facier board on the outside and
then the spouting the actual little gutter sits inside that
they are prone to leakage, they are prone to overflowing,

(06:24):
and when they overflow, they often flow over the back
water lands on the safe tracks along the safit and
in behind the into the building envelope. So there's at
least three companies that I know who have developed systems
where they can simply come removal of that and replace
it with a more conventional looking facia and an outboard gutter.

(06:45):
So custom facier and spouting do it. Continuous Group do it.
And if you look up RIGS, which is a replacement
internal gutter system, they do it as well. So between
those three companies, I'm sure you'll find a solution. Oh eight,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Keith.
Good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, good morning, Pete greeting.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
I have a little.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Job and I don't know we had experience in doing,
but across the front of my house, I have a
concrete path about nine meters long by a meter. She's
got pretty bony over the years, and I'm thinking of
I can't really take it up because there's a liberal
on it holding the garden Bofe's garden up. Now, I

(07:29):
wonder if you had any experience in reserving with a
concrete reserfer.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yep, there's a couple of options there. One that I
did was about a year ago now is a product
called microstone, which is actually from Razine Construction Systems. And
what we did in this instance was to do an
old a concrete table that I'd actually built almost twenty

(07:57):
years ago. It had become pitted and worn and those
sorts of things, and so we use the microstone, like
I say, from Razine construction to reapply a surface over
the top. And I know from having been to the
showroom in the warehouse here in Auckland they've used them

(08:17):
on the floor, so it is trafficable as well, So
that would be one option. There's some people that do
some recoloring. It's really about ensuring that whatever you put
over the top is obviously has some adhesion to it,
because the problem often with doing a little bit of
concrete over the top is it delaminates right. So you

(08:38):
could pour a path over the top, but it have
to be at least sixty seventy mil thick and that's
a lot of concrete to add down, whereas the microstone
will be I don't know, three or four millimeters, probably
not even that.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
So it is out there and you can get a
range of colors. It'll give you a durable, hardwaring surface.
You can put a seal or over it later on
if you wanted it. But that's the one product that
I'm particularly familiar with.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Oh, very good, Okay, thank you for.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Your ask around you may need somebody to come and
apply it for you, but someone who does exterior renders
probably still able to do it for you. Ok, my pleasure,
take care all the best you can find that on
their websites. It's just Razine Construction, dot cot On and
Z your new stalk seed b and oh hallelujah gap

(09:33):
Co has put in the fourth goal for the Netherlands.
They are absolutely going Nutch. If you want to see
some really cool fans, check out the Dutch fans and
their orange bus that they've brought across to America as well.
It's not a happy looking keeper. I do fear for them,
but only for a little bit. Radio four nil in
the football Netherlands v Sweden. Couple of other texts that

(09:54):
have come in Pete is chicken wire still a requirement?
And roofing paper We have a new home and in
the wind it rattles furiously like a buzz saw. Also,
why do you need a row of bearers perlins going
both ways under a deck? Cheers from Ricky. The roofing
paper is not always required, depending on it's an interesting

(10:19):
one in terms of the building or the roofing underlay
moving around. Maybe it's just not enough staples and of
course trying to do that now or they've got the
lapse wrong. The other thing is you must have quite
a bit of air circulating around there for it to move,
or air circulating in the cavity, which is an interesting one.

(10:42):
Chicken wire is not a requirement or mesh basically underneath
the iron. It's a good idea because what it does do,
particularly on flatter pitch roofs, is support the roofing underlay
to stop it creating some little hollows where moisture might
sit for a period of time. But no, it's not
a requirement. But if it's a relatively new house, I

(11:04):
would probably go back to the roofs and go, hey, look,
I'm not sure that you've done that correctly. Also, do
you need a row of bearers perlins going both ways
under a deck? I think what you're looking at there is,
depending on the span of the deck, you'll have a
row of bearers, which are typically heavier and might be
at sort of two meters center, and then sitting at
ninety degrees to those will be the joists. And that's

(11:25):
what the decking is nailed too. So if the deck
is smaller and you could span the joyst from one
side to the other to the supports, then you wouldn't
need bearers, but the bearers are there to support the joys.
Basically is how I would understand it. Morning Pete. Live
in a nineteen thirties villa with single glazed windows. The
condensation's bad and the windows need some sanding back, renovating

(11:47):
and painting too. How should I go about getting the
windows double glazed and renovated or is it cheaper just
to get new windows? And let me know what you think.
Appreciate it as always. I mean, there's a whole bunch
of things there. One is, you can do retrofits into
timber joinery using in some cases the original sashes. A

(12:10):
couple of companies around that do that. The other option,
and I saw an example of this actually on a
real from ambience, which is the uPVC windows by Stark
talking about actually a nineteen ten transitional bungalow villa where
they replace their existing joinery with high performance uPVC joinery,

(12:33):
and then of course with that comes the double glazing.
So then suddenly you've got this situation where you've dealt
with the windows, which probably the hinges are starting to go.
The latches are starting to go, they'll need some paint.
They maybe the ten and mortises have started to let go.
You get all of that fixed with the introduction of
the uPVC, and then along with that comes the new

(12:56):
double glazing which will give you the thermal performance that
you're looking for. It'll help make the house warmer. And
of course you get all the new hardware as well,
so you have options around how the windows tilt and turn,
et cetera, et cetera. All of those benefits from new PBC,
So you could check that out. In fact, if you
have a look on the if you go just into
social media and have a look for Ambience by Stark,

(13:17):
you'll see the little video that I happened to see
just the other day. It popped up. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is
nineteen minutes after six begging what they forgot to mention
on that YouTube video.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
The resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies
the future of Kiwi building Today.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Youth TALKSIRB radio lines are open for you right now
on a Sunday morning. Here at newstalks theirb We're talking
all things construction building regulations, rules and regulations processes, and
I guess too, that whole thing around just giving yourself
enough time to do it right. So a job that

(14:01):
I started sort of on Friday, thinking well, maybe we
can sort of, you know, not race through it, but
we'll we'll start actually start sort of Thursday afternoon, got
a few things sorted out, right, let's crack into it
on Friday, and we should be able to get the
whole thing back together. And then the job gets a
little bit bigger, and there's that temptation to go, well,
do we just sort of rush through it, not rush

(14:22):
through it as a roughhouse, but just do I want
to finish on Friday and get it done okay? Or
do I go Actually, if I worked on that over
the weekend and did some more preparation and a slightly
more thorough job, would I end up with a better job?
But I end up finishing on Monday, which is obviously
a day late and a day's more expense, and that

(14:43):
sort of thing, and then that balancing act, And if
you're doing work at home, it's the same thing. You
go do I, you know, do I spend a little
bit more time standing, or a little bit more time filling,
or do I, you know, do an extra coat, or
do some filling, then some standing, then refill it and
reprime it in order to get a really smooth finish.

(15:04):
These are always the challenge. And as I was sanding
my umpteenth ballustrade yesterday and the workshop, I was thinking
I should really count up the number of edges corners
on a piece of turned balustrade on one individual baluster,
And then I decided that that would just be depressing
once you add it up. You know, you've got the

(15:26):
shoulder at the top, and then then the round, and
then a little flat, and then a scollop and then
a flat and then another round and then a curve.
And now I'll just send them and then i'll paint them,
and i'll go home today and i'll paint them again,
and then i'll paint them again, and then i'll put
a top coat on them, and then tomorrow when they
go in, they'll be looking pretty sharp. Oha eight one

(15:47):
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
a text as well. Coming in nine two niney two
was ZBZB for the text by the way our fixed
price new build contracts a thing of the past. We're
not talking about sort of a group home builder, but
more the bespoke architectural small building team. So I'm not
sure where or coming from as an Are you a

(16:08):
contractor who is doing smaller bespoke architectural builds, or are
you a homeowner looking to get a fixed price contract
on a on a small bespoke architectural build. I mean,
theoretically they're there. I mean, everything can be a fixed
price contract, right, and it just depends on on risk

(16:31):
and flexibility in some ways. Probably a few other things
as well. But you know, if you're asking a contractor
to give you a fixed price contract, particularly at the
moment where so many things are out of people's control, right.
You know, prior to the Warren Iran starting, a number
of delivery companies, for example, have a clause in their

(16:54):
contract that says, look, if diesel goes over x dollars
per liter, our price will increase. Now that's embedded in
you know, the contract for the company that might deliver
the bags of building mixed to the builders merchant, and
you're buying those bags of builders mixed a month later.
But the price has gone up because the delivery searcharge

(17:15):
has been added, And if you price that job three
months prior to that, there's no way that you would
have known that this was going to happen or that
the price was going to go up. So fixed price
contract there in terms of for the contractor, you've got
to be able to protect yourself against those sorts of
price rises. And as a I guess as a client
if you're looking for a fixed price contract, because then

(17:36):
you don't end up with as someone text I think
two weeks ago on the show, you know, the final
bill was forty eight percent higher than the quote, which
is just not on either you can understand why you
would want to have a fixed price contract for that. Yes,
they're certainly out there, but I think if jobs are

(17:56):
particularly complex, the fixed price contract is going to be
weighted I would imagine in favor of the contractor because
they're taking all of the risk and and they'll want
to cover themselves for those unexpected things. And also, you know,
if it's a fixed price contract, there's also there basically
should be no flexibility. You know, you can't turn up

(18:17):
and go, oh, look, how would you feel about you know,
moving that, or changing that, or can we substitute this
note it's in the price right and everything's got to
be a variance from there on in interesting one happy
to talk about that, particularly given that, I mean, contracts
have been mandatory for all building work over thirty thousand
dollars for the last umpteen years, so you know people

(18:39):
should be operating using contracts basically if you're a contractor,
to protect yourself more than anything else. It is six
twenty eight. We'll take a short break. We'll come back
with more of your calls. The lines are free. We
always get really really busy at the end of the
show and don't have time to chat with people, So
now is a really really good time to call eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Turning those into She'll be right the resident builder with
Peterwilfs and Independent Building Supplies the future of Kiwi Building Today.
Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZIRB your
News TALKSB.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
The lines are open. The number to call is eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. You can also text through which
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you are more than welcome to do that as well.
It's Peaked at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So the
lines are open for you right now. In fact, it's
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(19:38):
a question anything to do with building construction, the rules,
the regulations, fire that through right now, or get on
the phone right now. Like I say, we often get
a little bit busy later on in the show. Talking
about Later on the show, of course, rid Climb Passed
will be joining us from eight thirty as always to
talk all things gardening and the wonderful world of bugs.
So Ridd from eight thirty, but right now your opportunity

(20:01):
to talk all things building and construction. Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number. But to call morning Peaked.
Long time listener, love the show, Thank you very much.
Which I hear on my way to work on the weekend.
My children have recently purchased a rural property. It is
one point one hectares and with the new rule about
the seventy square meter dwellings, they should be able to

(20:22):
put on an additional little flat onto the house. They
say there is a covenant on the title which prevents
them from doing this. Is there any way I can
get that removed? Thanks from Avy, Nice to have you
with us, and hope you have a good day at
work today. Covenance, obviously it's a legal issue, so in

(20:43):
the end it'll probably be a question it's best answered
by your lawyer. But my understanding is that covenants essentially
are almost bulletproof.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
So if in the development that they have bought in
it says one dwelling per site and that's in the covenant,
almost impossible to change. That is my understanding. Certainly it
would be worth checking out. It's interesting in the I

(21:15):
had a long discussion with someone the other day about
a building that they are going to purchase as an
investment in christ Church, because of course it's booming there
just outside of christ Church. Where the covenant on the
development on the sites and their standard sort of six
seven hundred square meter sites is for one dwelling. You

(21:37):
can't put two dwellings on one of the subdivisions. But
the actual I guess the developers, so not the developer
who did the sections, but the developers buying the sections
are doing essentially one dwelling, but there's two self contained
units within it. But of course, if you wanted to
do that on this existing one that you're talking about,

(21:59):
it would also require a building consent. You could add
on to the existing house to keep it as one,
but they would be separate. But I think if the
Covenant state's one dwelling per site, I'd be very surprised
if you could change that. I would have thought, But
I can certainly understand why you'd want to. And on
one point one hectares seventy square meters would be hardly noticeable.

(22:21):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Bruce?
Good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
Yeah, good morning, yeah, Bruce from Marcuini here. Hey, I've
just always listened to your show. I've got a question
for you. What is the maximum amount of stucco that
you could remove or for howse you know? Like I realized,
we've You've got Bonnie, Glenn down and Martin and I'll

(22:47):
deal with it previously, with wrapping it and policine. But
what would you like to just give me a legal Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
I'll tell you what it's. Sorry, it's a slightly secuous
circular route to answering the question, but over the last
couple of months, I've been doing the introductory modules for
the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys course, and so
I don't necessarily know that I'll go right through to

(23:19):
complete all of the modules. It's about fourteen of them,
but I've done the first five and one of those
was talking about building regulations in particular, and then as
part of the pre course reading, we were given a
whole bunch of case law to look at. So the
way it works is there is the Building Act in

(23:40):
the Building Code right, and then if you want to
disagree with, let's say, decision by counsel, you can go
directly to mby and get a determination. Now it might
take a while. So the one that I was reading
was there was a building which was a nineteen sixties

(24:00):
kind of fiberlight batch and then someone had nailed, had
taken that off and put plywood on, and then over
the plywood they'd put weatherboards. At a later renovation and
council came along and said, ah, the weather boards are
it's non consented work. It should be removed because that

(24:23):
type of work, because it's where the tightness requires a consent.
The person argued at MB or with MB and got
a determination that in fact, the weather boards were only
a rain screen because the weather tightness was in the plywood,
and the plywood is not dissimilar to the sheet material
it was on there. Therefore it didn't need a building consent.

(24:45):
That's a very long winded way of saying. Potentially, could
you could try and argue that what I'm doing is
repairs and maintenance. But what you run into is a
part of the sed you one of the Building Act,
which talks about a proportion, right, but that's not determined.
So let's say you're whole house is stucco.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
Now we're talking about removing the house, dismantling the house.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Oh okay, well that's going to require a building consent anyway,
right to relocate it.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
No, we're just going to pull it down. Oh, actually
burn the remnants after the.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Okay, all right, Sorry, I was thinking that this is
all part of repairs and maintenance.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
It's not an upgrade.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
No, no, okay. So you're going to pull the house down,
and rather than just crush the whole thing with a digger,
which wastefully it seems how most people approach it, you
want to kind of disassemble it. You'll take the stucco off.
Is it genuine stucco, like twenty mili solid plaster over
a niche?

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the sixties type thing, I.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Think it was.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Okay, all right, Yeah, you could pull all of that off,
put that in a hard filled skip and send it.
It's still a contaminated load because it'll have a bit
of metal in it, but it could go to hard
fill and then you're just left with the bare bones
of the house. Yeah, I mean, are you going to
burn it? Is that what you're thinking about?

Speaker 8 (26:06):
Well, no, we'd probably put the native to recycling.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right, okay, awesome, and ye yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Whatever we've got to do with the stucco, and then
i'm too recycling and then get them sell the native Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, brilliant idea. You might find that some of those
studs where they've been in contact with the mesh and
that sort of thing, will have a bit of decay
in them. But generally, you know, if it's an old
house with some decent native timber in there, someone will
want it. Someone will want to use it, which is
awesome exactly certainly from my point of view, given that
I do quite a bit in that waste space. Now,

(26:43):
you know, I'm watching a house the other day. You know,
obviously developer, god bless them, bought the house and just
rolled a ten ton digger onto it and just crushed
the whole thing and poked it in the back of
the truck. And I'm like, that's just such an appalling
It's not just wasteful. As an I'm realistic enough to go, hey,
you can't recycle every little native piece of native timber.

(27:05):
I get that, despite the fact that underneath my house
is packed full of it. But just watching someone just
just kind of crush these houses and send them off
to landfill, I think is appalling. So what you're doing
is way better.

Speaker 8 (27:18):
Yeah, the long and short of it, we can legally
do it ourselves.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Now, do you need a
building consent for a demolition? Sometimes you do, So you
might want to just check that out with your local
council because obviously it's it's sort of building work in
the sense that you're decommissioning it. You know, there's a
potential for harm and injury as you do that, So

(27:45):
some demolition does actually require a consent.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Yeah, okay, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
No trouble.

Speaker 10 (27:51):
Enjoy very much.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Take care still for one the football, by the way,
Sweden did get a we're calling it a consolation goal.
Does that make Swedish people feel happier? It makes the
Dutch feel a lot happier, given that it was too
all against Japan the other day. So just to see
it to play and that should see the Netherlands go

(28:14):
through top of the group, I would think. And of
course New Zealand play tomorrow one o'clock tomorrow afternoon. I
wonder if I can get the job finished that we
need to do tomorrow by one o'clock might be quite
a good incentive. Actually, Dion, good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (28:31):
We've had a developer with place our boundary fence. Yes,
but rather than line up where the old fence used
to be, they've gone thirty centimeters further to the to
the left at one corner, which has left a gap
out of our property. So our fence used to be
fully enclosed because of the small dogs, and now that's

(28:53):
left a gap. I just wondering what we can do
about that because they haven't followed what we thought was
the old boundary boundary line.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Okay, but with respect you might also be under the
assumption or may have been under the assumption that the
fence was the boundary, and it's not uncommon to find them.

Speaker 11 (29:15):
But we have asked them, but they haven't said it's
to do the boundary. They have basically just you know,
not explained why they've done it.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Right, it might just work for their you know, being
paralleled to their driveway or to their building or something
like that. Right, I guess in consideration, you'd like to
think if it's a thirty centimeter gap, right, that's two boards,
it would have taken thirty minutes, yeah, for the builder
to have just you know, done a couple of dogs

(29:44):
effectively and nailed on two boards. So I guess out
of consideration, it would have been nice if they had
have done it. In terms of any legal requirement, I
think they've obviously got an agreement with you to replace
the fence. They've replaced the fence.

Speaker 11 (29:58):
Well, they didn't actually ask us. Oh really yeah, yeah,
so you know, my wife looked the Building Act and
I think they was supposed to give like fifteen days.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Notice what that's under the Fencing Act. And I think too,
that's really only if they were going to ask for
a contribution from you, right, Okay, so if they've probably
redone the fence, if they haven't asked for a contribution,
I think it's worth checking that well. I guess the
main thing is that you would like to know that

(30:30):
the fence is on the boundary or on their side
of the boundary. And if they've had the building site
surveyed recently, there should be the building either the survey
pegs or a marker. A survey marker. Marker might end
up being on top of a fence post or on
a concrete pathway or something like that, but it should

(30:50):
be on a new building. It should be reasonably clearly
defined where the boundaries are. And then I guess if
they've decided that they're just going to shift it a
little bit and you've got a patch, you'll just have
to get a builder and to fill in that space.
I don't know that for all of the energy yet,
might okay you to try and go to the developer.
I don't think you have a lot of luck out

(31:10):
of that anyway.

Speaker 11 (31:11):
Okay, that's just what we wanted to chear.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think, so all the best, take care, thanks to you.
I think your new socks be Craig, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
To You's a game. I heard about the native timber,
and there was a house getting demolished around the corner
from me. They put that big fences, and I may
or may not have jumped over the fence and grabbed
a whole lot of a box shelf. I saw it
sitting in the burn and just the skippers in front
of the fence's light. So I kind of walked past

(31:40):
about him, and I grabbed a whole lot of it,
and I made a box shehelf, a wine wreck and
a coffee table out of it. So I just couldn't.
It was just I just walked past it a few
times and thought, there's just a sin. You can't do that.
So I went and asked the guy, and he said, no,
we can't give it to you because half in safety,
you can't come on side and all that sort of stuff.
And I sort of waited until they left about him
and night and sort of drove us with the car

(32:01):
and looked lefted right over the fed, came back again.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm going to do the typical I will put my
fingers in my ears and go la lah la lah.
I didn't hear that part of it, but the fact
that look, I just think like I'm sort of more
and more involved in that space around what do we
do with demolition waste, right or demolition materials surplus materials regardless.
And I think ow right now in Auckland anyway, at

(32:31):
least fifty percent, possibly even more of the volume of
material that goes to landfill comes from the construction sector. Right,
So if the construction sector is what maybe twelve percent
of the economy something like that, if we're contributing fifty
percent of the waste, we are just being shockingly wasteful.
And I've seen some surveys that would indicate for basically,

(32:55):
for every I think it's either four or five new
houses we build, we throw away enough material to build
another one. Right, And again I'm not that naive to
go everything can be saved and all the rest of it.
But I think where there's an opportunity to take some

(33:15):
of this material, either offer it to the community or
if you know, if you came to my eyesights and said, oh,
I see that remove that you've pulled out, you know,
do you want to do a box of bears for it? Mate?
You can come on and take it any day of them.
I did it a couple of years ago we did
a renovation, including pulling out part of a mid floor,
and there was quite a lot of remove and a

(33:35):
bit of Mattai flooring and that sort of thing, and
I just bundled it all together, put it on trade
meat and Okay, I got fifty bucks for it or
something like that. It was more that I just wanted
it to go somewhere, right.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
Yeah, I mean, I reckon if these construction sites they
find that sort of stuff, even if they just bundled
it up and bout a sign the fence with a
phone number saying give.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Me a call if you want give it.

Speaker 10 (33:59):
And you was the amount of people that walked past
the drive past it. See they didn't go. Oh so
it's because I think I don't know whether it rolled
it up, but to me, it seems a little bit
laziness of people pulling down old houses, not to just
go they a little extra mile to do that. But anyway,
that wasn't my question.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Was I love the discussion though?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (34:18):
Yeah, Trude, mine's got a nineteen fifties house and it's
got a conservatory thing on one side. It's kind of
like you get on the hallway and it happens up
to the conservatory. Glass sides on either side, and the
hallway goes through the middle of it and a glass
roof and then goes on to the next section like
it used to be. I believe it was like the
maids or butler's quarters at the end of it, right,
So he's tended it into a guess ro in that.

(34:40):
But the question I've got was, I was over there
a couple of weeks ago and I looked up in
the ceiling. Was a nice day, you want to see
the sun and all this sort of stuff, And I
noticed the glass along the top roof part of the
conservative had a crack in one of the panels. I'm thinking,
should that be like safety glass? Bean, it's above your
head on the conservatory roof walk. Can you get away
with just normal glass?

Speaker 4 (35:00):
No, it would almost one hundred percent. Under today's requirements
need to be safety glass, either a laminous or toughened
or something like that. So and safety glass should have
the little logo in the corner. So for example, at
final inspections, council inspectors will go through and they'll look
for that in glass that is required to be either

(35:21):
safety glass. So yeah, in this instance, here but then again,
if it's an older conservatory, like you say, nineteen sixties
or something like that, they to be fair that they
either didn't have it or they wouldn't have cared, and
so yeah, that would be fairly hazardous. And if it's
already got a crack in it, you know, some extreme

(35:42):
weather or something like that might not take that much
for that to come away.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
Yeah. That the panels are like about twelve or twelve
inches whatever and a nice aluminium frame. And there I
just had to be walking through one day because you
wanted me to put some security cameras on the house.
Just looking around. Their places are looked up and.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Go, that's not a good sight.

Speaker 10 (35:59):
So that's that's non tempered glass. So he's got small
kids in Then I said, you probably need to get
hold of a glazier and maybe get those pants changed.
But I thought i'd just give a quick ring.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
No, I think good on you for packing it up,
because that would strike me as kind of reasonably high risk.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
Well, yeah, it's about probably sevent me to high roots.
That's quite higher. Pat. Yeah, it's a two story house
on one side, and I'm looking at that and thinking, well,
that's a crack and that was to fall out and
hits someone, it's going to be pretty lethal. So yeah,
I see, I give you a ring on the weekend
and just just clarify when.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I think it would be wise for them to look
at changing that glass out. Yeah absolutely, that makes nice
to talk make and making good on you for making
those remove bookcases sounds awesome.

Speaker 10 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah, even though I didn't go to the fence
or may.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Have may or may not have done that. Awesome Boddy,
take care, Thank you over the eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Actually, was it
a makes place yesterday morning and he's just built himself
a workshop that I'm deep the ENVU solve and one
of his projects in there was a new dining table

(37:11):
which was again out of sort of recycled material, right,
it was some beams out of a job that he'd
taken away. I mean, my dining table at home is
I made it and it's out of the pine packing
crates that glass comes into the country because I wanted
that Baltic pine look. So you know these materials. It's

(37:32):
that whole discussion, and I think it was I saw
it on the news the other day trying to change
attitudes from its waste it's rubbish to its resource and
it can be used again. Happy to talk about that
as well on the show this morning, RDIO. Need to
take a break late for the break. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's ten
minutes away from seven and it's four one.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
The football helping you finish that fibe and it fixed
you started. The resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent
Building Supplies the future of Kiwi building today call, Oh,
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Speaker 4 (38:07):
Five minutes of extra time at the end of the match.
The glorious Dutch over the hapless Swedes are five to
one at the moment. I'm just so happy. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you would like to talk all things building and construction.
We can do that on the show this morning. Well

(38:28):
perhaps we'll do that. We give me a call now,
we'll still squeeze you in before news Top of the
hour at seven o'clock. A couple of texts that have
come through. Interesting. One of them is around covenance and again,
look it's like financial advice. You don't take legal advice
from me. But at the same time I remember reading

(38:49):
quite a long, lengthy piece around covenance and the way
in which they essentially have more power than the planning
regulations from councils, so councils. In this instance, it was
an area where some large sites and square meter sites
in a subdivision from let's say thirty years ago had

(39:10):
a covenant on them that they were only to be
one dwelling. Obviously, with intensification throughout Auckland and many New
Zealand suburbs, you know, a thousand square meter site ge
you could, you know, depending on the planning regulations, you
could put five, six, seven townhouses on that site. That's
the sort of thing that's happening all around the country

(39:31):
at the moment. But in this instance, because the covenant
on the that was registered on the title was for
only one dwelling, it was unlikely that even if the
planning intensive or the intensification guidelines and so on in
that area changed and theoretically could allow for more, the

(39:55):
covenant was so strong that in fact it couldn't be overridden.
But that would This goes back to a question that
we had earlier on in the program a text that
came through with a one point one hectare section. Could
they add a seventy square meter dwelling one of these
ones that you could potentially do without getting a consent

(40:16):
to that, But the covenant said only one dwelling per site,
So again, legal advice is what I would suggest there.
We'll come to the pool one after my daughter is
looking at purchasing a property with an upstairs unconsented tiled shower.
We will be speaking to the council on Monday about it.
Would you have any advice on whether this could possibly

(40:38):
be given a code of compliance with some investigation work,
or would it be a total replacement? Thank you, Joe,
I'll tell you what. I'll park that one for now.
We'll come back to that after the seven o'clock news.
In fact, I would be quite interested in hearing what
council had to say about that on next Sunday show.
But anyway, we'll talk about that after the news at

(40:59):
seven o'clock. If you'd like to call, we can get
things set up now. The number is eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. We're back after the news, en after
the football.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
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Speaker 1 (41:24):
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Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcam and Independent Building supplies the
Future of Kiwi Building Today, News Talks, b sing.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
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Speaker 2 (41:43):
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Speaker 4 (41:47):
If you got an appear, baby Stars up the music
to start the show this morning or to start the
second part of the show. In just a small sense
of nubilation on my part, my beloved Netherlands fairly convincing

(42:07):
when over Sweden this morning five one in the football,
which is awesome. It was worth getting dressed up for that.
In redecorating the studio. If you have a look at
my Instagram page, there were a couple of pictures or
a picture up there of what the studio looks like today,
which is not how it normally looks. I can assure
you here in new Stalk CB where it's all very professional,
it ain't looking like that anymore. Alright, seven minutes after

(42:30):
seven Let's get back to the topic at hand, which
is all things building and construction. So if you've got
a question, I might just have more questions, but hopefully
somewhere along line we'll get to an answer as well
around building rules, building regulations, building methodologies, building processes, as
an which step follows which step follows which step in

(42:51):
order to achieve the desired outcome. We're talking about contracts,
we're talking about covenants. Again. I know that this is
kind of legal area, and again, slightly tongue in cheek,
I'm going to say, please, don't take legal advice from me.
If it's a legal issue, going your lawyer, but happy
to offer up an opinion for these sorts of things particularly,

(43:13):
and had quite a lot of discussion this morning around
covenants and the power of the covenant and my understanding
and when I first read this a couple of years ago,
I was a little bit supp surprised that a covenant,
effectively in this particular instance that I was reading about,
had more power, let's say, than a then the planning regulations,

(43:38):
so you know, local government could change planning regulations about
number of dwellings per site. But if the covenant registered
on the title stated that it was one, even if
the planning regulations in the area said, oh, you can subdivide,
or you could put three or four units on that site,
you couldn't if it was the covenant, so I'll stick
with that until I hear otherwise. Oh, eight hundred and

(43:58):
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Just before
the break for the news, this text from Joe. My
daughter is looking at a to purchase with an upstairs
unconsented tiled shower. We will be speaking to the council
on Monday about it. Would you have any advice on
whether this could possibly be given a code of compliance
with some investigation work, or would it be a total replacement?

(44:20):
Thank you from Joe. Just as quickly as I can
on this, given that it's not a property that you own.
My first response would be, I think that if the
tiled shower did need a building consent and didn't have one,
I would make that the responsibility of the vendor to
get it compliant and put it back on them. If

(44:44):
you're thinking we'll purchase the property, maybe use the fact
that maybe the shower is unconsented and use that to
drive the price down, which is what people do. And
you are sort of thinking, I think it'll cost X
number of dollars to fix, you can try that. That

(45:08):
was kind of what my attitude was in the past.
I've pretty much changed that now. To say, I think
there's considerable risk in that. So if you're going to
go to the council, if the shower was consented, there
was a building consent for the work issued, but no
code of compliance, there was no maybe there was no

(45:31):
final inspection or a final inspection was taken. If there
was a final inspection taken and it passed, but they
didn't get a code of compliance for some reason, just
as a processing thing, you there might be a pathway forward.
If there was no building consent issued, but council feel
that it should have had a building consent, then there's
no way in the world that you'll get a code
of compliance for it. Your pathway forward is what they

(45:53):
call a certificate of acceptance. You would need to provide
evidence that the work complies, which might be challenging given
that you can't see what was done. If the homeowner
or the person who supervised the work has got evidence,
let's say, of the waterproofing, of the structure, of the
underlays and so on, council might accept that for a

(46:16):
certificate of acceptance. Chances are it won't be something you
can do yourself. You probably need to go to a
registered building surveyor in order for them to provide evidence
of compliance. So it's not a straightforward process, but I
am very much intrigued. If you are going to go
and talk to council, I'd love to know what they
say to be fair. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

(46:37):
is the number to call, so we can talk about
that as well, Morning Peak. People buying properties and trying
to change the covenant's covenance is a real bugbear of mine.
You purchase knowing full well what the rules are as
to all the other residents, most of whom will buy
specifically because of those covenants. If you don't like it,
sell it and move somewhere else where you can do
what suits you, rather than moving somewhere and expecting the

(46:59):
rules to bend for you. Well, that's a very firmly
held opinion on your part, Darren, and I probably disagree
with you. Thank you very much for that. That's very
well written. M Pete. You can remove the covenant, but
it's a long winded, expensive process, involves all the effective
neighbors and their lawyers, which you will have to pay for.
Then the title has to go back to Linz to

(47:20):
be rewritten. Cheers, from Nick Well. I think that emphasizes
the point that I was making, which is covenants are
seemingly a very very strong legal document and changing them
is incredibly difficult. So that probably answers that question of well, look,

(47:40):
if the covenant says one dwelling, can we put two on?

Speaker 9 (47:43):
Well?

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Probably not right, the lines are open. Let's get into it. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number love in
the texts, and you can send those through on nine
two nine too is EDBZEDB and if you would like
to email me you can do that as well. Pete
at Newstalk ZB dot co dot nz. Pete says this text, Phil,

(48:05):
do you know when the new is coming in, will
it make subdivision rules more consistent around the country. I
don't think so. I think the changes to the RM
might ease some of the you know, some of the
stuff around for example, you know, monitoring for wildlife in

(48:31):
terms of developments, that it might change some of that,
because to be fair, some of this is nonsense, right,
you know, I know some guys were doing a development
in a suburban site. It happened to a butt, a
little bit of bush where there may or may not
have been a skink. They had to pay for a
whole ecological survey. Then they had to pay for monitoring
while they were doing the excavations. I mean in an

(48:54):
urban environment, that seems to be nonsense to me. Oh wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty the number price.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Good morning morning, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (49:02):
Sure? Thing, just a question.

Speaker 8 (49:07):
Like, yeah, they have a content for that.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
If you're going to turn a twenty foot container into
a habitable space, then it's no different from any other
habitable space. Whether you build it out of stick framing
or you cut some holes in a steel box, you're
going to have to prove that it's going to comply
with the building code, so in terms of ventilation, in
terms of insulation, those sorts of things. So, yes, you

(49:35):
can use the steel container as you're building blocks, but
you'll still need to get a building consent.

Speaker 12 (49:43):
Even if we're going twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
What are you Oh okay, so you're thinking, gosh, if
you could like a what's a container? So two point
four by yeah, so thirty six squares right thereabouts, which
is less than the seventy square meters. But all of
those buildings, so all of these simple standalone dwellings. All
of these green flats still have to comply with the

(50:08):
building code. So if you were to put it somewhere
and then convert it into a house, you would still
need to prove that it complied with a building code.
So it's no different to getting a building consent. It
still needs to perform in the same way. Thanks, thank you,

(50:30):
all right, all the best, thanks lot. This is this
is going to be a well trodden path over the
next couple of years. I think is trying to emphasize
the fact that even if you don't need a building
consent for some of these buildings up to seventy square
meters that'll be a a habitable space, a simple standalone

(50:52):
dwelling or granny flat, they still need to comply with
the building code. And when you submit that information to
counsel as part of your PIM your project information memorandum,
you will need to provide documentary that it will comply
with the building code. And then when it's finished, you'll
need to provide evidence from the people that put it

(51:13):
together builder, plumber, train, layer, et cetera, et cetera that
their work complies with the building code. So it's not
like the building Code doesn't exist for buildings that don't
need a building consent, which is true at the moment
for all building work that can be done under Schedule
one of the Act, which says there's certain types of
building work that don't require a consent, but they still

(51:34):
have to be done in accordance with the Building Code
or to the Building Code standards. John very good morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
I have a house to fifty years old plus, yes,
and my concrete tile roof has its own erosion and
some of the corners sit off of the ties. And
I tried actually to repainted, but no painting, but they

(52:04):
try to paint it by somebody taking petty is good
solution because it eventually pears off and a block of
cart and right, and good.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Look repainting concrete tile ruse, particularly ones that have got old.
And the issue with the older ones is that obviously
they often they come from the factory with a glaze
on them, right, so a waterproof surface over the top
of the concrete tile which degrades over time. And so
if you've got an older concrete roof, and I look

(52:38):
after a property that's exactly like this, you know, when
it rains and there's no glaze left on the concrete.
The moisture is just being absorbed into the concrete doesn't
need it'll leak, but it will absorb moisture and it'll
get heavy and so on. So in that instance, it's
not uncommon to have it thoroughly washed, prepped, and then

(53:00):
painted by professionals who will do that work, and you
know that will last for quite a lot time. I
think what your friends are saying is if you got
up there with a brush and a bucket of paint
and just started painting it, it probably wouldn't last long
and it would peel off and that would become an issue.
But I think if you have it professionally done by

(53:20):
people that will do the right preparation, use the right products,
it's quite a good way of extending the life of
an old concrete tile roof.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Yeah, but you know, doing by professionals it cost me
quite large. So I'm at the uy the I Y
so I would like to do myself. But another substitute maybe,
or another idea is that the ISO or there is
an advertised not to paint, but a kind of a

(53:52):
special steccure kind of alias, you know, just to kind
of get it into the into the old tile and
maybe started together and the no erosion or something.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Yeah, So there will be concrete as well that you
apply essentially like out of a spray bottle, out of
spray pump, right, And it's not uncommon to do. You know,
for example, on decorative concrete finishes, pathways and so on,
you might want to apply a sealer and that just
helps seal in the color stop some moisture getting into it.

(54:26):
So on a concrete tile roof, you'd still need to
do the preparation, so you'd want to treat it, you know,
keell off any moss and mold that will grow on
the roof, and inevitably that'll grow. Then you'd want to
allow that to dry, thoroughly clean the surface and then
apply a clear sealar and that will make the concrete

(54:46):
tile less porous. So that's not a bad solution, and
you know, theoretically you could you could do that yourself,
bearing in mind that you know, for contractors to work
on the roof, they need to provide evidence that they're
doing it safely. So whether it's a harness, whether it's
edge protection and so on. What I what I don't

(55:07):
want to read in the paper in a couple of
weeks time as John's fallen off as roof because he
slept on it. You know, hey, look, I was talking
actually I was talking with ACC the injury prevention people
this week because I'm going to get one of their
team to come on the radio in a couple of
weeks time to talk about they've just done a new
survey about how we injure ourselves at home. And so,

(55:30):
you know, an all fense, I hear a story that
you've fallen off your roof, but they.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
Have you a good haighness you know longs and yeah,
you know haighness and you know safety that and everything,
so there will be no collapse or whatever it is.
But my problem is that my English is not good
enough because I'm an emyran here. So where should they
contact this kind of a technical matter, for you know,

(55:57):
the oil treatment or something.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
I think, yeah, it's not really an oil trip and
it's more a concrete sealer. And you know, most masonry supplies,
most most large hardware stores will have various types of
concrete sealer around. So I think you'll find something just
with a bit of research and a bit of a
Google search and that sort of thing. But again, please
please be safe doing what you intend to do. All

(56:22):
the very best of you. John, thanks very much for that. Marty,
you're very good morning to you, Money, Money.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
Thanks very much for that.

Speaker 10 (56:37):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
You might want to turn the radio off in the background, buddy.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Are you there?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
We go?

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Yep, go for it.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Morning.

Speaker 13 (56:47):
There's a couple of questions for you there. I've got
an old lining fufties with a board house. The back
end of the house doesn't get a lot of sun,
so it's the window frames. Wooden window frames are really
pretty much deteriorated.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (57:05):
And I'm wanting to basically knock out the big window
in the lounge and put maybe a round slide or
something in there with a bit of a deck. I'm
just wondering what sort of cost i'd be up, you know.
Is it a big job? What sort of cost is
involved in here? What's the best way to go about it?

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Look, I'm always a little bit reluctant, for obvious reasons
to try and estimate jobs without having seen them. So
I guess the one way that you can try and
keep the cost down is it's actually the sort of
work that you can do without necessarily requiring a consent
if you don't change the size of the opening. So
if you've got a window there, let's say it's two

(57:50):
meters wide, and you take out the window, knock out
the bit of framing down below, and put in a
set of doors in that space, and you've kept it
at two meters wide, you can do that without a consent.
If the deck ends up being less than one point
five meters off the ground, that's a reasonaby away from
the boundary. You can build that without a building consent.
That's going to save a little bit of money there.

(58:13):
And look, joinery, you know, a couple of thousand, a
couple of weeks work, da da da da da. The
best thing is obviously to get a price. But it
does sound like the sort of thing you should be
able to do without a consent, and that will that
will just make it a little bit quicker and easier
to do.

Speaker 9 (58:32):
And so.

Speaker 13 (58:34):
Being on a bit of a budget there, I could
get sort of a second end, you know, ran slot
or something to go in there. Yeah, bit of cost
or is it better that you go new?

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Well, look if you could find something and I'm all
for reuse, right and if it's something that's kind of
in character with the house and so on, that can
be a bit challenging. You know, you might find something
that's ten mili to wide or twenty mil to narrow
and so on and so forth, it's already worn out
and the rest of it. But if you can then yeah,
that's great. There is a little bit of a challenge

(59:11):
sometimes with recycled materials in terms of getting them to
comply with the code. But in this instance here, as
long as it's no worse than what you've already got,
you can carry on and do that as well. So
I wish you well for that. But I think it's
a case of tracking down a reliable contractor getting them
to come out and price the work, and then you're
into it. It is twenty four Thanks very much for

(59:33):
the call, Maddy. It is twenty four minutes after seeone.
Take a short break. We'll be back with Tony after
the break.

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number to call a very brief, again, a very brief
and succinct question or response, Rather to the question about
the unconsented shower. Never by unconsented, says this text. Vendor
needs to sort it. Even if you get a price adjustment,
it will become your problem whenever you want to sell it, vendor,

(01:01:19):
if you want to sell, sort it. I wonder if
this person might be a real estate agent. I don't know,
or maybe I've bought something that was unconsented and then
realized how difficult it is to get all of the
appropriate consents or certificate of acceptance sort it out. Either way,
I probably I think a few years ago, i'd say
take a punt. Having been involved in a couple of

(01:01:44):
jobs where we've needed to try and get consent or
compliance for work that didn't have those things, and the
time and effort and cost involved, I'm probably more of
that opinion that you're better off making it the vendor's
responsibility to ensure that everything is compliant we're required, rather

(01:02:05):
than you taking risk yourself. Tony, good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (01:02:09):
Yes, good morning, Peter. It's good to talk to you again.
I missed the beginning of your program this morning, but
i'd listened to your last few comments.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
That means you were not watching the football. Well, you
were watching the football and that's why you miss the show.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
Congratulations experience, and we've had a lot of experience with
the covenants. We're on the shore, we're within walking distance
of one of the bus stations. There is the covenant
on all of these. It's called a it's a limit
of one property per lot, so even if somebody subdivides,

(01:02:46):
there's still only one lot, so you can only put
one property on it. Now under the Auckland nor Shall Council,
they would not issue a building permit. Under the Auckland
City Council. Their understanding is it's a civil matter and
it's up to the people in the area to take
the appropriate action. We did do that. We formed a society.

(01:03:10):
We've got one hundred and thirty residents and have this
covenant in our area. I won't mention the area so
it doesn't upset anybody. And we went to the High Court.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
We have to have a QC.

Speaker 12 (01:03:22):
You have to have a solicitor to inform the QC
what to do. It costs forty two thousand dollars and
we won the case and we ended up getting eleven
thousand in costs. Wow, it's not a cheap matter. Had
not been privty honest with you, Peter. They could not

(01:03:44):
care less. And under this new RMA and the plan
one twenty, we've submitted three submissions stating that we have
the covenant and it cannot be challenged. And you were
court right in your statement, because the QC and High
Court has said it that a covenant cannot be overridden

(01:04:04):
by a planning change.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
That was what I read a little while ago where
there was a case very similar to yours around you know,
I guess, let's say the subdivision was done in the
nineteen seventies or nineteen eighties or something like that, and
everyone's on six seven hundred square meter sites, and then
with intensification, which broadly speaking I support, by the way,

(01:04:30):
coming suddenly, you know, council might have rezoned that particular
suburb for intensification, but the covenants on the existing titles
restricted it to one dwelling per site, didn't allow for subdivision.
Then that over rid or was more powerful, let's say,
than council planning regulations.

Speaker 12 (01:04:50):
That We've had feedback from a counselor last week who
was at a planning meeting for this new one twenty plan.
The planner and I won't name his name, although we
do know it. You could that out quite easily. He
is intending to get the covenants removed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
But you'd have to do that on a case by
case basis, wouldn't You couldn't do a blanket. It's remove
all of the covenants because they're registered to each title.

Speaker 12 (01:05:23):
The council that informed us because he knows he's in
our area. He's longstanding. I won't say what he was,
but you can't get any higher in the local council.
He informed us that you're going to have a big
fight on your hands. So, really, a little bit of

(01:05:43):
money away because this was back in twenty seventeen when
we did the covenant right, and we've been putting the
money away each year. We care for our suburb. We
have a street clean up, we do what the council
doesn't do, and we've put money in. We haven't got
a lot of money, but there's people moved into this
area and they've moved from Milford, they've moved from other

(01:06:06):
areas on the shore where the whole suburbs have been
ruined by these high rises, and they've come because of
the covenant.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (01:06:15):
It's going to be a battle take place. It's going
to be Peter, It's going to be do or die.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Hey, look, please keep me up to date on that,
because I find this whole thing fascinating and I'll certainly
keep an eye out for any stories that might be
in the media. But really appreciate the heads up. Thank
you very much for that, Tony. Quickly before the break,
we'll talk to Paul hell Low, sir.

Speaker 14 (01:06:37):
Good morning. But we bought a piece of land and
Papukura knowingly with the Covenant on it that it had
to be that remain of the Purple curea golf of course,
had to remain its golf course use. And we bought
it knowingly with the covenant, knowing that we had a
beddle on our hands to when the council will get
rid of the Covenant and the locals and before like

(01:07:01):
hell And we ended up selling the land to Sleep
a Living, which is now they're building about four hundred
houses on the site. But the only way to get
rid of the cabinant was to negotiate, you know, right, yeah, yeah. Basically,
a cavenant's a cavenants as its registered un title. You

(01:07:22):
buy it with open eyes and you know what you're
dealing with. Yes, yeah, we sold the golf course to
Slitch you're living and they ended up managing to finally
get the cabinet removed, which is what we were trying
to do. Is the golf course shut down because it
was a nine hole PGA nine hole course, right, it
was just places just to do well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
This sounds a little bit the whole controversy around Pegasus.
You know, the golf course and Pegasus just outside of
christ it's there which obviously has been sold to a
developer who you know, potentially is looking at subdividing it
and turning it into housing. And you know, I guess
there's certain groups there that are a little bit surprised
that this has happened. But it is also.

Speaker 14 (01:08:07):
We bought it with our eyes while opened our eyes,
simple as that. And obviously Fletchers are going to make
good money out of it. But they've agreed with counsel
and negotiated covenant of and by way, they're game. They're
building four hundred.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
Hours on it. Hey appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
That wasn't OK.

Speaker 14 (01:08:29):
One quick question beside, I had a quick question for you.
I just recently had a house repainted by a bunch
of cowboys, and they left all the remooved floors with
paint as Yeah, beautiful remoof floors, mate. I had it
they had been sanded and polished and probaly eurethane and whatnot,

(01:08:52):
but they didn't put some plastic down on the floor
and they painted the repainted the innit. I wasn't here
when it was happening. What's the best way to get
rid of that paint is hard grafted and rink get
the place to get the floors resanded.

Speaker 9 (01:09:06):
Gears.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Look, you might find that in the end, you know,
like it's it's one of those things if it's splatter
from a roller. You're talking about little dots of paint
scattered over a huge area, right, So.

Speaker 9 (01:09:22):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
You could try with a little bit of paint stripper
just on a cloth and try and rub that and
you know, just lightly enough to remove the paint splatter,
but not to impact on the poly era thing. Because
you know, if you were thinking, gosh, we'll go through
and have it resanded, I mean, that's that's a lot

(01:09:45):
of work, a lot of expense just for that. Can
I ask, did you try and go back to the
painters and go hey, guys.

Speaker 14 (01:09:54):
Actually unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Gone bust.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
No, he actually topped himself.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
So okay, yeah, completely understand. I around because this, I
would have a go with a little bit of paint
stripper try and you know, maybe something like cedar sky,
which is not as toxic, let's say, as some of
the others, and just see if that loosens it up

(01:10:24):
and then potentially you can clean the floor with that
without impacting on the polyurethane. Otherwise, yeah, you might end
up having to re sand it, floor mate. This nothing
beats a dropsheet. I know that's always Hindsight's twenty twenty
and all the rest of it. But you know, the
time and effort it takes to mask something off is
considerably less in every single situation than the time it

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takes you to clean up your mess. Later on, I
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News talks, there'd be the lines are open. The number
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it's your calls, your questions. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number. Just now talking with Paul. Just a
moment ago, this was about some painters unfortunately that didn't
put drop sheets down over the timber floor. Myths is.

(01:11:40):
We've had a couple of people come through. If the
floor was varnished with an oil based product, use methylated
spirits to clean the paint from the floor. If it's
water base, then use thinners. Okay, and someone else has
gone a pete used myths to remove the paint from
the floor. Myths seems to be the go um, thank

(01:12:03):
you very much for that. It's yeah, it is. It'll
be myths so gently, you know, with a great deal
of patience, find you radio. Favorite bit of radio. Put
your headphones on, work away diligently and hopefully you'll be
able to rescue that floor.

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Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
Hey, there's just a quick question.

Speaker 15 (01:12:27):
I'm good, thank you. I think you've probably got a
smile on the place just a little bit, well, just.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
And my redecoration of the studio has been warmly received,
I have to say fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:12:39):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (01:12:39):
Look, I've got a situation where I've got a common
wall between a lounge and a bedroom and I'm just
re insulating and regibbing this house all permitted, yes, And
on the lounge side of the wall it's going to
be TV. And on the bedroom side of the wood
of the room is going to be the head of
a bed right now. When I was getting a quote

(01:13:02):
for having the insulation done, one of the people who
I spoke to said, why don't I just put double
sickness of jib on one side of the wall and
I won't need noise counts canceling insulation. I spoke to
my builder about this and he said, hm, get ahead

(01:13:23):
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Yeah. Well, I have, and if you go to the
jib guide so jib dot co dot NZ, you'll find
that there's a whole lot of information about acoustics and
the various systems have been tested. Right, so you get
what's called an STC rating, which is a sound transmission
coefficient or something like that, which which gives you a

(01:13:46):
rating as to how soundproof particular makeup of wall is.
So yes, doing double jib and sound insulation and then
double jib will get you an STC rating of whatever
it is. A single layer of jib will get you
a different rating, et cetera, et cetera. So double layer
of jib is not uncommon way of achieving better acoustic performance.

(01:14:10):
The other thing that given that you've got the television,
and inevitably the television will have services running to it,
so power and cable and so on, the other thing
that people underestimate is how much air leakage goes through
those penetrations. So you can do double jib, but let's
say you happen to have a PowerPoint that's almost back

(01:14:30):
to back. You've literally then got a hole going through
your acoustics. So you need to think about where the
powerpoints are located. How you can acoustically isolate those so
that sound doesn't transfer through the penetrations in the jib
board through the powerpoints basically, So think about that at

(01:14:51):
the same time. The other option is, if you didn't
want to go to a double layer of plasterboard, you
could go to a different type of plaster board. So
some plasterboards have better acoustic performance than others, so and
then you could all so rather than do ten mil,
you could go to thirteen mil, for example, and that
will give you better acoustic performance. So there's there's quite

(01:15:14):
a number of combinations that you could try to achieve
a better outcome.

Speaker 15 (01:15:21):
Okay, Chris, it's jib guy that I was talking to.
He said, oh no, don't worry about insulating the wall,
just put double layer up. My builder just.

Speaker 12 (01:15:30):
Rolled his eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Well, I mean, I get the theory of it, and
also I presume that they'd be able to provide you
with some evidence for their conclusion.

Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
So you know, if you've got a bit of ninety
mil framing and you've got ten mil plaster board on
one side and two layers of ten mil jib on
the inside, maybe used noise line jib, which is their
acoustic board. You can test that and they probably would
have and then you could say, well, if you did
those things plus added some acoustic insulation, then you would

(01:16:04):
I think you'd get a higher rating. So for this
small investment, maybe two bales of acoustic insulation, I would
put the acoustic insulation in. And as it happens, it's
one of those things. You know, it's a few years
ago now. But when we were doing the block, because
I was the site foreman for that, I was able
to ensure that all of the interior petitions were insulated.

(01:16:27):
We did it as standard practice and it made a
significant difference to the feel of the houses upon completion.
So I'm will for it. I would not hesitate to
insulate all of my interior walls walls.

Speaker 15 (01:16:44):
Okay, well, then my next question is that the bearing
of mind us is not going to be the master bedrooms,
the wall. If you were on a limited budget or
which wolves would you all the exterior walls?

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
What I did.

Speaker 15 (01:16:58):
I bought an old house. I've stripped it all out
because it was brick and there was no building paper.
I've had to do every square which has been a
bit of a mammoth. And so My next question is
if I was going to do internal wolves, which ones
would you recommend just the bedrooms and forget about everything else,

(01:17:21):
or do the kitchen and the dining as well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I guess there's also something around like where does the
noise come from? So, for example, if you've got a
range hood that's mounted on the wall and next to
it is it might be a bedroom, it might be
a living room or something like that, I would insulate
sound insulate, acoustically, insulate that wall because it's amazing how
much noise comes through. I'll tell you what the sound

(01:17:45):
of a toilet right flushing and drawing water in if
it's on a wall that backs onto a bedroom, it's
amazing how much sound transfers through an uninsulated wall from
those sorts of things. So maybe just think about where's
my noise coming from and where's it going to and
then focus on those and I know it. You know,

(01:18:07):
if budget is never an issue, and it never is
never an issue, then you'd go, I'll just do everything.
So I would think about what's where my noise sources
are and what's on the other side of that wall.
Do I want to protect fantastic that my pleasure, lovely
to talk with you, thinking, thank you, it's a great conversation. Actually, look,
I of all of the things that we did well

(01:18:30):
on the block, and we did a whole lot of
things well on the block. Adding insulation to all of
the interior petitions, Adding insulation to the mid floor, even
when it wasn't required as part of the consent, made
a huge difference to those houses. And I just think,
if you have the opportunity, if you're doing new build,
I wouldn't stop at just insulating my exterior walls. I

(01:18:52):
would be insulating interior petitions, all of them, ideally or
as many as possible, and it makes a significant difference
to the feel of the house. Later on, ten minutes
away from eight, we're back after the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
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Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Instead of asking, Instead of asking a question, can I
get to the point draining scoia, Yes, if we've a
score or stuff from the mill I've seen what.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Size you use depends a little bit on what the
purpose is. So typically around pipes like for bedding and pipes,
council will want it to be like SAP seven, so
up to seven milk because you don't want big bony
bits in there. If you were doing drainage behind a
retaining wall, for example, so you've got your wall, your protection,

(01:19:56):
and then you want something that's free flowing, I'd probably
go twenty bar forty so it's got a little bit
of bigger stones which will allow the water to percolate
through there. In some cases you can go forty mili
no fines. Uh, that's probably the two most common ones.

Speaker 7 (01:20:14):
Right, it's the wrong thing. So and I'm sorry to
use those works.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
So I used.

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
I was original draining as well as well as a builder. No,
I've seen them all fill up with soil, any of
those ones. No, we used to have something because that
quarter to three quarter storier, which is what I used.
And they don't need the fabric round the cabin, uh
for so coold Yeah, which has to drain away if

(01:20:40):
it's any good and not often does.

Speaker 9 (01:20:42):
It do that?

Speaker 7 (01:20:43):
Yeah, fine, scorier will make a very good job in
the soil or the clave even doesn't get in too quick.
I just thought i'd make that comment because so often
I've seen blocked up everything for what used to be
tour I forget what it was, but two to two,

(01:21:04):
two or three instaff that they were used and slightly listen.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
But on the on the pits now you do need
to do a geotextile cloth around them because otherwise it
ends up just being filled with sediment over time and
then not.

Speaker 7 (01:21:21):
Rich fline story.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
Cleaning.

Speaker 7 (01:21:25):
Of course, I forget what the grave was in those days. Yeah,
that didn't that didn't get in well, a little bit
trigger for stability to But I just thought i'd make
that comments and thank you, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
Pleasure all the best of your tom. To be fair,
I disagree. I think if you can do a drainage
pit or a soca pit rather the geotextile cloth, that
allows the water to sort of percolate through, but it
stops sediment soil from entering the space as a as

(01:22:00):
a requirement. There's always a great deal of controversy around
whether or not to put filter sock on drainage coil.
So if you got something like that Bailey black snake,
which is the flexible drainage coil. You can get a
sleeve and it's one of those discussions builders have on
site and drain layers have on site. It's around do
you put it on? Does it block it? Does it
mean it slows down? And all the rest of it.

(01:22:20):
To be fair, I don't know what the answer is,
but it's one of those arguments that we have. Thanks
we argue about on site. Right we're back after the news,
sport and weather at eight o'clock.

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Helping you finish that fibe.

Speaker 9 (01:22:32):
But it fixed.

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(01:23:13):
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We'll
take your building questions through till eight thirty this morning.
Then we're into the garden with a red climb pass
from eight thirty this morning. So if you've got a question,
ponus now because we get pretty busy soon. Eight hundred
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two nine two is z b ZB from your mobile
phone and actually a lot of conversation about covenants this morning,

(01:23:38):
which is interesting. Pete, read the covenance. There's a long
standing principal and common law that states the specific overrides
the general, so the covenant will always win. It's a
very good concise way of putting it, Pete. Planning on
buying a property with an existing building consent for a
boat shed that has a year to action, does the

(01:23:58):
consent stay with the property or do we need to reapply? Also,
if we built it smaller, would we have to amend
the consent? The consent in getting neighbors consents, that's from soue.
My sense is that the building consent would you'd have
to get it transferred to your name, because building consents
always have the name of the owner on it. But

(01:24:20):
if it's already been passed, I don't think that should
be too much of a problem with counsel. But if
you want to make it smaller, then yes, that would
be an amendment at the very least to the building consent,
which will require new plans to be drawn, showing just
the fact that you want to make it smaller. But
a fascinating question. Thank you very much for that. An

(01:24:42):
interesting one. From Craig and I'm not sure how to
approach this one. Can I stick a shower lining over
an unconsented tile shower as a means of compliance? I
think you probably could interesting approach. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call Keith. Hello there,

(01:25:03):
Hello there.

Speaker 16 (01:25:04):
I've got a question about showers as well. We've got
a nineteen sixties batch in the Coramandel area and it's
got a bath and soon after we got ownership of
the batch, we put a tap down the bottom with
a shower extension on a wull tap shower thing, and

(01:25:29):
being a batch, we just I threw up some plastic
sheeting over the walls and it's worked quite well over
the years, although we don't use it that often now
because we've got an extension with a consented shower, wash
house etc.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
In the end here.

Speaker 16 (01:25:45):
Unfortunately, though, over the years, my wife's been at me
to maybe get rid of that plastic and do something
with the walls around the edge of the bath. It's
got wallpaper on the walls sort of up to a
window height and that's where the shower that is about
the same height. Again, I was thinking of putting some

(01:26:08):
of those big white melamine sheets along on the wall
with them to get rid of the plastic. And the
other thing is that there's a two hundred mile piece
of timber around the edge of the bath, you know
where it joins the wall, and the taps come through hoping,

(01:26:28):
hoping to leave that in place and paint it. Now,
the wall above on presumers just jib with wallpaper over.
Obviously you've got to take the wallpaper off, now, doold
I have to seal that jib or what's the story
there before I put the white melomine on.

Speaker 11 (01:26:50):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
I mean, the white melamine is going to do the
waterproofing for you, so you're not sealing the wall in
order to and in fact, what you might find is
that the adhesive is designed to go well. Often if
you're doing it from you, you'd have timber framing and
you could put the malamine or the serotone or whatever

(01:27:14):
they call it today directly to the studs right and
fix it to that. But in this case you've already
got the plaster board there. It would be about just
checking the manufacturers recommendations in terms of how the adhesion works.
So if for example, the adhesion is better on a
surface that's sealed, then you would just run some paint

(01:27:38):
over it, or certainly you'd have to remove the wallpaper
because otherwise you're glue. It's just sticking the wallpaper. Then
but if, for example, you take the wallpaper off and
in order to seal the surface they recommend a sealer,
then just do that. Whatever the manufacturers what recommendations are.

(01:27:59):
I'm just thinking because I've done a few of those
ones where they've got the bath with the old timber
strip around it, you wouldn't consider removing that bringing your
lining down. And there's a special little molding that goes
over the lip of the bath.

Speaker 16 (01:28:12):
Oh okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
I mean I know it's more work, but it's just
a slight.

Speaker 16 (01:28:19):
Yeah, ok I'm not sure, Okay, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Want to add your work.

Speaker 16 (01:28:26):
Yeah well, yeah, well we have The sixty four dollar
question really is though, does that need to be consented
as well?

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
No, none of that does. And in fact, if you
really wanted to, you could remove the bath, put in
a preformed shower so like an acrylic tray, and lie,
I don't want to do.

Speaker 16 (01:28:43):
That because it's just too much work to be pretty old.
And I think if it was ever sold, someone will
just put a bulldozer through it. Anyway, one of these
mansions you know that appear down in the crime metal
area these days. I don't really want to do that.
I'm more concerned about there's that many questions about consenting
it and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Be all right now, I'm quite clear in this. So
if you just want to put some shower lining around
existing shower like that, no, definitely doesn't require a building consent.

Speaker 16 (01:29:15):
Yeah, okay, some re questions. Thanks for much helps.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Nice chatting with you. Take care all the very best. Then,
yesterday morning I shot round to it makes place. He
was about to pour some concrete. I got away before
he asked me if I could get on the barrow
because it's a long walk up the drive from the road,
because he couldn't get the truck that anyway. The reason
I went there is that he's prepped it up properly

(01:29:40):
for one of the Bailey slim gym water tanks, the
big three thousand liter once it's going to tuck in
next to the new workshop that he's built, and they
require seismic restraints. So he's got his posts embedded nine
hundred milli in the ground, but a concrete around them,
already ready for his slab to go down, which happened yesterday,
and it got me thinking about, you know, all of

(01:30:01):
this talk about maybe a long dry summer in terms
of the al Nino effect that I guess it's that
a little bit of resilience, a little bit of options
for homeowners around having a bit more control over their
water usage. Is that thing of getting a little water tank,
whether it's like I installed a little six hundred liter

(01:30:23):
one the other day with someone this three thousand liter
slim gym that he's going to put in there, and
it's going to serve as both retention and detention, so
there's a bit of reuse. But it also helps with
the storm water management and the fact that you can
get these tanks that are the slim line ones that
can go alongside of building or in a bit of

(01:30:43):
space that you wouldn't otherwise utilize. I just think it
makes more and more sense these days, So I guess
inevitably I'll go back and give them a hand to
lug it onto the area and get it connected and
make use of that that rain that we get. Well,
it's actually been pretty dry over the last couple of weeks.
Certainly I've enjoyed the weather because I've been able to
get a whole lot of jobs done outside. But at

(01:31:04):
the same time, I'm also please that I've got a
couple of water tanks at home, just in case we
have another long dry summer. It is fifteen minutes after it.
We might take a short break and we'll be back
in just a moment.

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Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Helping you finish that five minute fixed you started the
resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building Supplies the
future of Kiwi Building today call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty news talks that'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Yes, the five minute fix that you started five days ago.
I know exactly that feels, given that I'm going to
go home after a visit to a hardware store on
the way home to pick up the inevitable extra little
bits and pieces that I need to then sand reprime,
sand first coat, then second coat. If I have a

(01:33:10):
good run at a bunch of ballisters, and the hope
that I can then put them back together tomorrow on
the handrail. Tomorrow being a sunny day in Auckland, Tuesday,
being a rainy day. Whether or not I can get
it done in time for one o'clock kickoff with the
New Zealand Versas Egypt game, I'm not sure, but we'll
give it a red hot crack. Greetings April, good morning.

Speaker 12 (01:33:33):
Our family member has got an older house was black wiring.

Speaker 13 (01:33:39):
I'm just wondering is it an.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Issue for fires?

Speaker 12 (01:33:43):
I mean, are the many houses around with it now?

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
It's a little bit unusual to see it now because
most houses probably would have had that removed. So is
it the black rubber coated insulation?

Speaker 15 (01:34:01):
Well, I think it is somebody to look at it
and said, oh you should get this change, and to
we a bit of a worry.

Speaker 12 (01:34:09):
That is it?

Speaker 7 (01:34:09):
Say for it?

Speaker 12 (01:34:12):
Is it an issue?

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
I think the one that is of particular concern is
the very early wiring which had a cloth wrapping around it, right,
and you still see that sometimes in you know, old
bungalows and villas, and typically if you see that, you
would want to remove that arm or ensure that it's
not live anymore. The rubber coated one I think is

(01:34:36):
less risk. But what I guess the sensible approach would
be to actually get a registered electrical inspector to come
and test the house. And so there's a special tool
that they have which allows them to test for any
leakage or shorts or anything like that, and they could

(01:34:59):
test and then determine whether or not the house is
actually safe. And it's one of those things that I
think I've started to advise people. If you're buying a house,
right you've sold, and you're buying something and maybe it's ten, fifteen,
twenty years old, I would, as just as a safety thing,
get a registered electrical inspector to come through and test

(01:35:22):
all of the circuits to see whether there's any potential fault.
So I think in this instance I would get that done.
And it's got to be an electrical inspector, which is
kind of very often electricians as well, but it's the
next level of qualification.

Speaker 15 (01:35:36):
And is it a big job rewiring a two and
a half sort of bedroom house.

Speaker 12 (01:35:41):
I mean, is it expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Everything's expensive, And when it comes to building and construction
these days, relatively speaking, it's not a like the electricians
that I use. For example, they do a lot of
it because they're familiar with it working in an older area,
an older suburb. If there's good access to the underfloor,
and if there's access to the ceiling. Sometimes what what

(01:36:06):
they can do is attach the new wires to the
old wire and use the old wire as a draw wire.
So going from a PowerPoint, let's say, to the ceiling,
and often older houses there's lots of cavities and spaces
in the wall, you might find that the distribution board
is possibly getting to the end of its life. So
if it's got that black cabling, it might have the

(01:36:28):
old fuse board distribution board. It would be an opportunity
to upgrade that, but you know, you've you've got to
be budgeting in the sort of mid thousands, you know,
three four thousand dollars to do that as a whole
house possibly, but get a price. But I think just
as as an initial step, registered electrical inspector come through

(01:36:50):
test the house and then determine whether or not there's
any faults that need fixing. Right, Thanks so much, my pleasure,
nice talking with you. Thanks April, all the best. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
In fact, I had some electrical work done at my place,
just some minor changes and a bit of maintenance and
that sort of thing, and part of that was actually,

(01:37:10):
you know what, we should probably upgrade one of the
circuits on the board that the board's twenty five years old,
I guess, but not enough r CDs and and for
one particular circuit not the right type of protection. So
upgrade that part of the board. At the same time,
it's worth doing. Bryce. Good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (01:37:29):
Oh I wrote you earlier about that. Yes, mate, another
question and asked, we're thinking of building totally offwards so
there's conceits still the day.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Yes, Yeah, essentially, there's been a couple of cases recently
where you know, people have sort of said, look where
I don't know, sovereign citizens or you know, the rules
don't apply to us. We want to live in a
shed and we're going to add another shed and another
shed and another one and we're going to live in
that and all the rest of it. And council have

(01:38:01):
come along and well, look, you've done all of this
building without having a building consent. It's clearly a habitable space.
We're going to deem it non compliant in in extreme
cases they could lobby to have those buildings removed.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I think there's one family that keep appearing in court
at the moment, getting fine tens of thousands of dollars
every time that they breach the regulation. So it's those
are extreme examples. But the whole point of the Building
Act is to ensure people's safety, right, and so that's
the whole point of the Building Act and the whole

(01:38:38):
point of the Building Code that sits underneath the Building Act.
So no matter what you do, if it's going to
be a habitable space, it has to have a basic
level of safety and that's what the Building Act is about.

Speaker 9 (01:38:51):
Well, thank you very much, no.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Trouble at all, all the very best you. And so
even going off grit right, which is awesome, if you
can be self sufficient in terms of power and water
and those sorts of things, it's still a habitable space
and it still needs to be safe. Way to prove safety,
I guess, is to comply with the Building Code. Cal
good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (01:39:12):
Top of the morning, to you, Peter, and to your listeners.
I was left quite a large home from my good
friend of thirty years and his will. I moved and
it was an abandoned home. We don't have power or
water at the moment, but I think I'm going to
seize that. But we've got rats in the roof, and

(01:39:33):
well there've been there since I've lived here. And as
you know, or Auckland now has a rat explosion because
of people just throwing rubbish onto the streets apparently, yeah
and grow. And I'm not saying everybody, but you know
a few of your community who throw their rubbish out

(01:39:55):
the windows around supermarkets and and nerves. You know, even
they've had rat explosions. I'm just wondering, if I get
a man in to the roof, how long before it
can eradicate the rats. Please.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
Uh, I'm not scared.

Speaker 9 (01:40:15):
Of rats, because I've had rats since I was a
young man, and I had them this pair.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
But so hearing them scampering around in.

Speaker 9 (01:40:23):
The rest, I've actually been I've actually been feeding them
to keep them out of our area and it's worked.
They don't come into our area, so they're Yeah, that
sounds strange, but I've been feeding them just to keep
them away. As I said, I'm not afraid of them,
but they are a bit of a you know, well,

(01:40:45):
well they're not clean.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
I don't know, there seems to be a little lack
of logic in that, but either way, look I would
go straight for the professional, someone who's who's got the
right traps and poisons and all the rest of it.
Get them in and then I think what you might find.
There's one property that I look after which happens to
be near some bush where council have been a little

(01:41:09):
bit slack in terms of their pest control.

Speaker 16 (01:41:12):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
I've got a company that puts in traps there, monitors
them and we've been doing that for a couple of
years and every time they come and check the bait,
the bait is, you know, fifty percent taken, seventy percent taken,
that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
So, yeah, I find it.

Speaker 9 (01:41:28):
It's not my building, you know, it's just it's just
a natural occurrence. But I said, but you know, I've
heard Carrie tell us on there Be that there has
been explosion Yeah, over well because of people throwing rubbish down.
But how long how long will it take before the
professionals get and know you're aware of Oh no.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
If you've got someone in, they could they could clean
out your roof space and maybe I don't know, it
might take two or three cycles of trapping to get
rid of them.

Speaker 9 (01:41:58):
Right am, I'm looking at for that Peter, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
It could be one hundred and twenty dollars every three
months something like that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Oh oh, theys, we were good And what's the chance
of them coming back? And what do I do if
they do come back? Just just keep telephoning all in
the street.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
From my own experience with the place that I look after,
what we've done is there'd been a couple of reports
of rats getting into the building, and so the approach
has been, I think initially to put some baits inside
the house. Then I've gone for constant bait stations around
the perimeter, which then hopefully we'll capture them and stop

(01:42:39):
them entering the property. So that that seems to be
the approach. I wish you well with that and with
working out you your inherited house. Right it is bang
on eight point thirty, So we're going to change gear.
We're going to jump into the garden. We might end
up talking about rats as well. The red climb passed
in just a moment.

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