Full Show Podcast: 22 February 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
Camp from News Talks at B. Whether you're petting the ceiling,
fixing the fence, or wondering how to fix that hole
in the wall, give Peter wolf Camp a call on
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
A house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the
grass is overgrown in the yard, and even.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
When a dog is too old to bar, and when
you're sitting at the table trying not to starve, scissor home.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Even when we are benn even when you're there, house
is along.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Even when these goes, even.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
When you go around from the ones you love your
most scream.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Broken pains, a beeing in vandem, locals wisperable when they're
going and leaving the neighbor house, even when we bend,
even when you're in alone.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well, a very very good morning, and welcome along to
News Talks be you're with Peak wolf Camp. There is
a builder and this is the reason. A builder on
Sunday an opportunity to talk all things building and construction.
So if you've got a question of a building nature,
and when I say a building nature, it's it's a fairly.
It's a big palette that we get to play with.

(02:10):
If I as a painter, there'd be a wide range
of colors. There's a wide range of topics because there's
everything from sort of the practical, right, the squeaky floorboard,
the door that won't open, the window that won't shut properly,
roof maintenance, weather board maintenance, everything that you can think of,
the practical stuff around the house, the jobs that are

(02:31):
probably on your list or on your phone, on your
to do list, or however you try and manage your tasks.
There'll be some tasks on there, and I'm sure we
can have a bit of a chat and see what
advice or what ideas we might have around getting those done.
Then there is, of course the legislation that governs all

(02:52):
of this. What rules apply, What can you do, what
can't you do? Who can do certain tasks in terms
of building and construction, repairs and maintenance. We can talk
about that. We can talk about new ideas and products
and new materials that are coming out, because this is

(03:13):
ever changing as well. There's constantly if not new, then
sometimes it's that you know, we're very much moving to
a systems based approach. To a lot of our building products.
And I tuned into a little bit of a podcast
the other day talking about sealants and what type of
failures you might get from sealants. So you apply a

(03:36):
bead of sealant in the hope that it will stop
water in gress between two surfaces, and then it can
fail either by separating from the surface or it can
separate itself and the two different What sealant you use
and what application can you paint over all of these
sorts of things. So there's little tips and tricks everywhere

(03:59):
that I might be able to share with you, or
that we might discover ourselves together. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call this morning on the show.
I'm just trying to think. I don't think we've got
any guests today, so it's all you guys basically right
through the show. I will and even Locke, my producer,
has reminded me that we're not hanging around at the

(04:21):
end of the show today, folks. To be fair, I'm
going to hop in the car. Lock's going to hop
in the car. We'll get both going to tootle back
to Devenport to the inaugural tool bizarre. I know I've
talked about this affair, but forgive me because it is
obviously an Auckland thing, and if you're in Auckland you
might regard it as a bit of a north Shore thing,

(04:42):
and if you're on the north Shore you might regard
it as a bit of a Devenport thing. But there's
a couple of things about it. One is it's old tools, right,
and who doesn't love old tools or tools in general.
They might not be that old. In fact, I know
that our local Hammer Hardware is actually they're having a
clear out of all of their stuff out the back
as well, and they're going to have a stand there

(05:03):
which will be fantastic. But also Lock's getting very excited,
I have to say. But it's also a community thing,
so look, I've got a real soft spot for flea
markets and markets and people coming together. So anyway, looking
forward to that today, and if I do happen to

(05:24):
come home with something that maybe I didn't know that
I needed, well that's not a bad thing either. So
that's on. People will be setting up in about the
next fifteen minutes or so. It opens at about eight o'clock.
It's outside the Clay store. So it's on Lake Road
in Devonport. Kicks off officially at eight o'clock. Obviously I'll
still be here at eight o'clock, but it does run
for most of the morning, so I'll get there. I reckon,

(05:47):
we get there in about ten minutes if we really
drive to the speed limit and responsibly and still get
there in ten minutes. Right, let's get amongst it, folks.
Welcome to the show. Lovely to be back with you
in a slightly reflective mood as well, because our first
news story this is the fact that today marks fifteen

(06:09):
years since the major christ Church earthquake, a day on
which some one hundred and eighty five people lost their lives,
any number of people were injured, thousands of people displaced
from their homes, and devastation of alke that we haven't
seen probably since the nineteen thirties in terms of the
napier earthquake to one of our major cities. Particularly poignant

(06:32):
for me given that I spent three days in christ
Church this week as our son gets into tertiary study
down there, and I did actually on Thursday morning go
for a nice long walk in the early morning, including
taking the time to go past that memorial alongside the
banks of the river Avon flows through the middle of
the city in a very poignant and thoughtful moment there

(06:56):
as well. So certainly be thinking of christ Church today
as they think of those people whose lives ended today
and the devastation that it wrought for the city. Also,
you've got to say the city is I've been down
a couple of times over the last few years, but
walking around, driving around, staying there, going out to the

(07:17):
local cafes and that sort of thing. It's a great city.
It's really on its way to being a really great city.
So thank you, Grus. You really love being down there.
It is thirteen minutes after six. What's on at your place?
What would you like to talk about? Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you would
like to chill talk about building, construction, renovations, alterations, rules

(07:42):
and regulations, everything to do with building and construction. We
can talk about it on the show today. Eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine two nine two. That's the text.
So that's ZBZB from your mobile phone and if you'd
like to send me an email, you're more than welcome.
It's Pete atnewstalk zb dot co dot nz. We're into it.
It's fourteen minutes after six and rows are very good

(08:04):
morning to you.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
That's good morning, Pete. I thought I thought it was Peter.
I wasn't sure.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Oh I don't mind either way.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
Listen, Peter. We have got a wooden floor in our
kitchen and the fridge is leaked on top of it.
The joins have gone sort of dark yep, and it's
not particularly a big leak, probably about twelve inches long
on about four of the planks. Now we've had conflicting

(08:33):
people being out. We've had the insurance people out. And
I was always told when we moved in here was
four years old that it was a floating floor. Right
now the insurance man says it's not. And I haven't
heard from him for over a month, and then all
of a sudden it turned up as an email and
they said they want to replace my whole floor. Well,

(08:54):
well I have quite a big excess, and I thought, well, gee,
I don't know. I think i'd better check with somebody else.
So I got somebody local to come in and have
a look. And he's quoted me under my excess. Yes,
but he's quoted me as cleaning it, sending it, and
then you're saying three coats, right, it's a shiny floor.

(09:19):
And he said to me, will be best to do
it in a matter I think it's called yeah sure,
so that yeah, so that those marks probably won't show
up as bad yep. Okay, but I don't know what
to do because he says it's a floating floor.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
The second man, right, okay, roughly, do you know how
old the house is?

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, it's twenty three years old.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Okay, yeah, I mean at twenty three years old, it
might be a little bit tricky to actually So the
floor itself is the floor laid over another floor. So
would there be particle board down throughout the house or
a concrete floor?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
So which is the concrete?

Speaker 7 (10:02):
House?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Is all concrete floor except for the kitchen as far
as I know. One of my friends did put a
drill down the back where the back of the fridge, yes,
and he said he couldn't get touched concrete.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
So you are a slope slightly, because the only reason
you'd sort of go from timber to concrete is typically
that you do a concrete slab on an area of
the section that's flat. And then where it falls away,
then you extend out with timber Joyst. Either way, someone
should be able to determine exactly how that works.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
I thought i'd bring you and see if I could
get somebody who is independent.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
And I guess you're not the original sort of owner buildings.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
No. Four years and we're in our eighties now, So
I don't want my whole kitchen pull down.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
No, I can understand that. But at the same time,
you also don't want to end up with a repair
perhaps that effectively devalues your house because they've done a
targeted repair and it's obviously different to the rest of
the house.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
But the rest of the house is just all carpet, Okay.
The wooden floor is the only part in the kitchen, and.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
It's just in the kitchen, and it's kitchen, dining.

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Living, No, no, just the kitchen, just the kitchen.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Okay. They wouldn't necessarily need to remove the kitchen in
order to do that, So if you did want to
go ahead, Actually, now I'm starting to get a picture
as to why the insurance assessor is probably going Actually,
you know what, we could spend a lot of time
trying to repair let's say two square meters of your kitchen,
whereas the entire floor might be twelve or fifteen square meters, right,

(11:44):
and in that case, and then it's still going to
whatever we repair is going to look different slightly to
the piece that we don't repair. Therefore, we'd look at
doing the whole thing. That might be the insurer's assessors
point of view. Then the other person that you've come
has said, Okay, well, what we can do is we
can repair that and then we'll sand the entire floor,
recoat the whole thing, yes, and blend it in. I

(12:07):
mean that seems because unless there's actual damage to the
timber itself, so that I.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Do notice that it has a bit of a squeak.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
At the moment, okay, which would be a little bit annoying.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
My husband said, it's fine, he can't hear.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
It's there.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
There's advantages, It's okay.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
I mean, I think it has had squeaks, isn't it.
And the guy did say to me that it's a
sort of atmospheric.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Well he got down on the floor and he said
he can feel the vibration, and he said, that is
a floating floor. Don't I know anything about it?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
No, no, no, you know what you know? I see, I
think that a floating floor. If you were to lift
the fridge out and maybe remove a skirting board or
something like that, you'd soon know whether it was a
floating floor or not.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Do you think we should do that?

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Well?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, I look, if you were in Auckland, i'd know someone.
Unfortunately I don't know a flooring contractor who's, like you say,
independent in that sense, like if it was a floating floor,
because it's not going to be any trouble to lift
that apart from where it tucks underneath the tokis and
so on. So if it was a floating floor, I'd

(13:25):
probably take the appliances out, get a team in, cut
around some of the upstands and that sort of thing,
lift the floor out, redo the floor, job done, because
it's a relatively small area. But I also understand that
if that's what the insurance assessor has done.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
He said the insurance Look, I'm not going to bother
because I haven't even heard from them, right, Because then
I got the other guy in and I thought, well,
maybe I'll just go with him because he was local
and thirty years experience. I don't he seemed quite good.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
But I just.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
I just don't know what to do.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah, and I understand that making a decision with some
uncertainty is challenging, right, so you go, I'm not exactly sure.
Whereas if someone walked in and went, yep, it's a
floating floor. It's not going to take us too long
to take it up, and we'll simply replace the floor.
That's a really good solution if it happened to be
like it's obviously an overlay of some description. So if

(14:27):
it was glued down and you had to pull the
boards up and then you had to sand all the
glue off and so on, that's kind of disruptive and
noisy and dusty and all the rest of it, and
that's quite a major job. Then you might say, well, look,
can we do a targeted repair. The other thing is
where the water damage is. Obviously, if the fridge leaked,
is the water damage sort of in front of the

(14:48):
fridge and quite off? Yeah, okay, just.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
That front piece. I mean the kids came yesterday, they
will they had one look at it and said I.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Wouldn't bother right, Yeah, well, in that sense, sort of
going lightly and if the contractor when you say thirty
years experience, if it's you know, if there's some recommendations
there that this is someone who knows what they're doing,
and if you've been in business thirty years, chances are
you do. And they can come in and do a
targeted repair and it's going to cost you less than

(15:20):
what you would have to front up in terms of
you paying the excess, then that sounds like not a
bad solution. My only comment about the Matt finish is,
as I understand it, the way it works is that
gloss finishes are harder wearing, right, So what you can
do or talk with the contractor about it is, once

(15:42):
they've sanded it and prepped it, they do a gloss
coat which gives you your hard wearing surface over the floor,
and then you apply a matte coat over the top
to reduce the gloss level, which is nice, but having
the hard wearing, high gloss finish is really important.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
So saying again, that's the gloss, yeah, so coach, then
the mass is the finish, Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 12 (16:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Gives you someone to speak about it's difficult. I get it,
I get it, and it's one of those things too.
Insurance companies must love people like you that go, I'm
going to pay insure. It's my whole life that I'm
not going to claim.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Yeah, and it's not a small excess because you say,
fifteen years we were in the earthquakes and most of
the houses in my street fell down.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
But my wonder, can I just ask you a question
about that. You've obviously stayed in christ Church, you went
through the earthquake in neighbors, neighbors were impacted. Is it
something that's sort of on a daylight today, is a
little bit sort of somber or a little bit thoughtful.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Well, the dynamics of the street has changed when we
moved in, because we all moved in and we were
probably in our thirty fifties and what have you. But
everything's changed. The houses have all been rebuilt. People don't talk.
We used to always have a barbecue in our street

(17:14):
and it was lovely and we all got together after
it for a while. But then they started moving out,
you see, and other people moved in and rebuild started,
and it's I know, two neighbors on my street now
I knew everyone. Yeah, it's it's quite somber. Because my

(17:37):
neighbor across the road his house dropped about two feet
and he said to me, I'm the only one in
the Christchurch that's got a moat running around us. So
you can imagine when it's like you had stepped into
the house, stepped down and it was cracked right through. Shocking.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, we've so you don't know anyone independent
that could come and have a lot.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Go that one makes me a contact, I'm more than happy.
So I'll just hand you back to Lock, my producer,
and you leave your number with Lock and if someone
phones through and otherwise, actually I did. I was in
Krush Church this week and had a chat to a
couple of builders down there. I'm sure if I rang
one of them I'd get a contact for you. So
stay on the line please, Rose righty Oh Sex twenty

(18:27):
four at new Stalk CB. Nice actually to have a
bit of a chat. I mean, this is the thing,
you know, events like that impact people's lives for a
long time. And also, without wanting to draw too long
a bow, the whole point of this is a sort
of an interesting history lesson that I had the other day.
I'm doing some training and around sort of the legislation

(18:50):
around the Building Act and why we have a building code.
And essentially we have a building code in New Zealand
in a large part because of the Napier earthquake. That's
why we have a building code because suddenly government realized that, well,
without certain standards of how we construct houses when we
have these natural disasters, and if we don't have a

(19:11):
building code that determines how strong a house needs to be,
how it's going to resist various forces, then we're going
to have failures, and some of those failures are going
to cost lives. That's where the building code comes from. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Will take a short break at six twenty five. We'll
talk to Emma in a moment. We've got a couple
of spare lines. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

(19:32):
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare the resident builder
on us talks B, your.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Use talks B and thanks for a couple of texts
as well, an interesting one from you and the woman.
The lady with the fridge leak should get the whole
floor replaced as the black is caused that as the
black caused by the leakers, mold and therefore a health issue.
I mean, you could dry that out and treat that.
To be fair, I hear what you're saying, but in

(20:02):
and of itself, I mean it's it's solvable without necessary
replace the floor if it's if it's well treated. So
but I appreciate the text. Actually, quick, quick, one that's
come through, Pete. I've got a five year old house
and I noticed that nails have popped through the jib
ceiling in a couple of spots in two of the bedrooms.
Is this anything of concern? How do you fix it?

(20:23):
Chairs from Calvin. Look, it's not completely unexpected, but it
also doesn't need to happen, So I know I'm fudging
it there a little bit. But look, I've seen done
plenty of houses where we've we've fixed the plaster board.

(20:44):
It might be GiB, it might be another product. We've
fixed the plaster board in the right conditions, using the
right materials, in accordance with the manufacturers and instructions, and
you don't get popping. So typically where you do get popping,
it's because the contractor has either rushed the job, used
the wrong substrate, and that sort of thing. So it's

(21:08):
probably indicative of some quality issues in general, but look
in and of itself, leave it for another year or so,
maybe go through another cycle of summer and winter. You
can repair them, but you will need to repaint the
ceiling as well. Calvin talking about developers, Emma A very
good morning.

Speaker 13 (21:27):
Yes, good morning too.

Speaker 14 (21:28):
I hope you can help me out. I've got a
question on vertical planking, which is capping. So the backstory
is that we had a property developer project managed to
build and he installed an earthen pine product and its

(21:49):
vertical planking, and then it's also bricked the rest of
the house.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
So just to be clear, so this was a new
build for you and you've commissioned for me. Yeah, okay,
so for you, so you contracted the contractors, or you
deployed the contracts, or you employed the PM to do that.

Speaker 14 (22:12):
I just paid the property developer his asking price and
he was going to do all the building and everything.

Speaker 13 (22:17):
Along the way, and I just picked, you know, like.

Speaker 15 (22:21):
Reason sort of.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
A new build off the plan. And then because you
had bought before the building was built, you could then
have someone put into the finishes and so on. That's right, Okay,
with you.

Speaker 14 (22:32):
Yes, yes, and that was in twenty twenty one, so.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Later the market too long ago?

Speaker 16 (22:37):
Yep, yes, and yes, well just before that, yes, finishing time.
But what's happened is since then that we've noticed that
there's been nails popping out of the vertical planking, and
then when we look at the bottom of the planks

(22:57):
you can see that they're cupping.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yes.

Speaker 14 (23:00):
Now, we had the builder who built the house come
by and specked on site with us last week. He said, oh, okay,
well yeah, at the time he told us at that
meeting late last week that at the time they didn't
know there was something maybe with the product, but they
installed it.

Speaker 17 (23:18):
Anyway. He's said it.

Speaker 14 (23:22):
To the developer, who sent me an email saying if
you can imagine avoiding any sort of claim on it,
saying that, well, I chose a different color stain. That
means that he is wiping his hands clean of this,
and I'll have to raise an insurance claim if I
want this fixed, because the cratting is failing and requires

(23:45):
remedial works, and because I said, because of the stain
that I didn't follow him his recommendation on the stain,
that he won't be part of any remedial work. However,
we do have a picture before the stain went on
and the tapping was present, then before any.

Speaker 17 (24:05):
Stain went on.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Okay, good stuff, I've.

Speaker 17 (24:08):
Got the date on it.

Speaker 13 (24:08):
But I don't know.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
I don't know what happens now, Yeah, okay, does happen
from stay?

Speaker 17 (24:15):
What do you do next?

Speaker 5 (24:15):
In this case, it's going to be a little bit
of detective work and it's probably going to get legal
pretty quickly. Right, So if it's interesting the response from

(24:36):
the developer, because it's one of those things that it
sounds kind of scary, like you made a choice, therefore
I'm not responsible for it, So then you have to
test that claim. So obviously, given that the house is
relatively new, you'll be able to find out exactly what
the name of the product is, what the who the
manufacturer is, and from there you'll be able to get

(24:59):
all of the manufacturer's instructions, including information about what types
of colors, and then that will be some discussion and
the manufacturer's documents about things like the light reflectance value
the LRV, right, and that works on a scale where
dark colors obviously attract more light, and so manufacturers will say,

(25:22):
you can't choose a color that has light reflectance value
of greater than whatever the number is, and so then
you can go and look at the color that you
chose and talk to the manufacturer about that, and then
the manufacturer will tell you what that number is. So,
for example, if you've got a Razine fan deck and

(25:44):
you go to the back of a Razine fan deck
for their standard color range, every single color in there
will have an LRV number attached to it in the
index at the back. So this is all just really
clear stuff. So manufacturer says it's got to be thirty
five and below, and the color that you've chosen is one, Well,

(26:07):
then it's not an issue, right, And you can go
back to the developer and say, hear what you're saying,
but you're wrong, and then attach that and that photograph
that you've got of the cladding that was essentially pre cupped, right, yes,
you know what I mean. And then but then you've

(26:27):
also got an issue with the builder. Right, So I
take it that the person who installed the cladding is
a licensed building practitioner, Yes, yes, exactly, So as a
licensed building practitioner, they have a responsibility In twenty twenty
twenty one, the Code of Ethics hadn't been introduced yet,
but they still as an LBP, have a responsibility. So

(26:50):
if the developer says to me, as the LBP, here's
some cladding, can you whack that up? And I look
at it and go make there's a really big problem
with us. You know, the board's already cupping bloody baddy.
But then I'd say, look, I'm not going to install
it now. When times tough and you want more work
from the developer, maybe you'll install it, but you shouldn't, right,

(27:11):
So there's probably an issue there with the LBP. So
the LBP can't say it's not my problem. They need
to take some responsibility for it as well. And in
the end, all of this is going to come to
a head somewhere where you're you're going to want to
make a claim against the builder in the first instance,

(27:33):
or the developer for making that choice, and then maybe
there'll be some sort of settlement because you know, if
the cladding is starting to move now, then for good reason,
you've probably got to concern about what it's going to
look like in another five years.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
Yeah, So next next steps I think Emma is find
out exactly what the cladding is, Try and find exactly
who the manufacturer is.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Maybe get a representative of the cladding manufacturer or supplier
to come out and have a look at it and
say is this your product and is this what it
should look like?

Speaker 12 (28:13):
Right?

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Okay, But be aware that they also don't want to
put themselves in a position of accepting liability for a
defective product, so they might be a little bit tricky
around these things. But the other thing is that in
the end, you've got warranties, right, You've got rights in
law to ensure that products are not defective, and so

(28:35):
there may or may not be a building warranty attached
to your new build, but there are implied warranties in
terms of the Consumer Guarantees Act and so on, so
you do have some right in law, and those protections
extend for at least ten years, so you've got a
little bit of time to sort this out. But there

(28:55):
will be a bit of argie bargie. People will not
be nice and you may need to end up.

Speaker 17 (29:00):
They're already not nice to me.

Speaker 14 (29:02):
That's why I've got this email.

Speaker 16 (29:04):
And they've both been so slimy the whole time.

Speaker 13 (29:07):
That I thought on.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
And look the whole thing around the colors. Again, you
can do the research right on this. Do the research,
come and go back to them and say you're wrong.
If you are right, then you could go back to
them and say, here's the LV for the colors that
I chose, here's the manufacturer's warranties. This color is actually
okay on these weather boards. And by the way, here's

(29:29):
a photograph that I took of the boards pre cupped
effectively prior to the application of the top coat, which
means that the product was not fit for purpose when
you installed it.

Speaker 14 (29:43):
Yes, so Pete one thing on that, because the builder
told us that he had there were conversations at lengths
of the supplier prior to the stain going on all
the installation. He had had conversations with the developer and
the supplier. Now I only know that verbally from what
he told us, So that's not going to hold up

(30:05):
at all of it.

Speaker 13 (30:06):
It's too.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
And again, you know, it's probably a good lesson for
the builder and for builders like me. Listening is you know,
if you've got concerns about this, having a conversation's good
Sending an email is a lot better, you know, and
the emails the classics sort of, you know, thanks for
your time today. Here's a summary of the conversation. And

(30:31):
then you're covering yourself right, So I mean the builder
might end up saying, look, I had some concerns. I've
expressed my concerns. They told me it wasn't going to
be a problem. So I've acted on their advice and
I've installed the cladding. That way it covers the builder,
or the builder could cover himself as well. Fascinating one

(30:53):
fascinating look. I think that gives you first steps. I'm
very intrigued as to where this will end up, so
happy please do let me know how you get on.

Speaker 14 (31:04):
Ok, thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Take care of all this. Bobbo I. You know paints
a picture, doesn't it. Yeah, I'm not even going to
comment any further on that. Six forty year with news talks,
heb will take short break back and Steve in just
a moment.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're helping you get those DIY projects done right, the
resident builder with Beata Wolf scats call.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Talks, Yeah, news talks, b and emails up and running. Mike,
thanks for your email, and Steve, good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (31:39):
Oh good Pete, Pete, I've just an amusing story. But yeah,
when I was an apprentice builder back in eighty seven
building up in Tour Bay, and we're building a lot
of new houses up there, and there there were quite
a few guys building their own homes too, who weren't builders,

(32:00):
who are just weekend warriors who have decided just to
just to knock out their own house. Absolutely back in
the days when you were in a license builder and
this guy was built his own house next to us,
he was really chuffed. On a Monday morning, he said, hey, Jared,
come over and have have a look at this at

(32:21):
the jib board I've just put up on the ceiling,
and he said, you know, come check it out with you.
He put up all the jib board on the ceilings.
It was all complete, and I walk over. We go
inside and I look up and you wouldn't believe it's
all the gibboards up and perfect roads. Are these clouds
all lined up and are all punched halfway through And

(32:45):
the whole house was like that. And you know, so
he had nailed these up like the would with a
bit of a lot of the listeners probably may may
not know, you know about how you nail up jib boards.
But you just mentioned nail popping on jib board and
so yeah, he's going to have some issues. And no,
no blue as well, because back.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
We didn't because look to be fair, when when you
were working in tor Bay, I was working out Saint
John's Way because I just started building as well in
nine eight and eighty seven.

Speaker 12 (33:17):
I started, yep, and after the crash, the share market crash. Yes,
a lot of glum looking people at smoke. I was
looking down at the share market prices and they.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Were already tough.

Speaker 12 (33:30):
Maybe I was very lucky to get a building apprenticeship.
It was a lot of work, so it was almost
like but like now, but quite a bit different, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yeah, and and just on the plaster board and that,
because I can remember, you know, as the apprentice. I
was a couple of months into my time when we
finally got the house framed up and ready for plaster
board and so on, and so the the GiB arrived
and then you know we were doing Back then, you
did all your own fixing. So we've done all the
ceilings and you're right, it was two nails at three

(34:01):
hundred centers all the way down the ceiling perlin or
the baton, and then fixing the wall sheets off. It was,
you know, around the perimeter and then double nails, you know,
sort of an inch apart at maybe three hundred centers
or so right through the sheet. I don't remember talklining
all the nogs and all the studs and that sort
of thing, and no glue. It's just that's how much

(34:24):
I guess the innovation and the change has happened. But
you're right, it's radically different. Hey, I've got to run.
But are you still on the tools? Are you still
on the tools after forty years?

Speaker 10 (34:35):
No?

Speaker 12 (34:36):
Actually, well yes and no. When I'm doing my own stuff,
yea sure. Otherwise I'm in architectural design. One other thing, Pete,
can I just ask you this question? And that's quite interesting.
I've noticed in building now builders are screwing everything. Door jams, yeah,
just as you know. We just used goal nails, and

(34:57):
I find door jams no problem with seventy mil jolt
head nails. There's never any movement. Why are we moving
to this overkill with We're overscrewing, aren't we? And the
problem is that biggest screw heads and they pull into
the timber a lot of the time that's messier for
as hard for the painted a filled because yeah, jagged edges. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Look, I hear what you're saying with regard to fixing
door jams and windows and so on with screws. But
saying that, I'm also now become a huge fan of
jolt screws. So I just did a tongue and groove deck,
you know, a classic old veranda deck. Last year screwed
the whole thing down. It's been absolutely fantastic, So the

(35:38):
screws have their place as well. I've got a run
but lovely to chat with you. There we go, a
couple of old boys whose knees Creek every morning talking
about building almost forty years ago. It is twelve minutes
away from seven back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Measure twice god once but maybe called Pete first video
ALCAF the Resident Builder News Talks.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
They'd be lines are open for you. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call John A
very good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (36:07):
Good morning, Peter, morning, John, Good morning. I called you
last year. I was about to concrete in some posts
for a retaining all into the ground and we talked
about the concrete. Now I'm happy to say all the
posts are in fifteen of them, all cleaned up, ready

(36:29):
for the boards to go on. And my question is
around the drainage pipe.

Speaker 18 (36:37):
Yes, I've got some ribbed plastic. I think it's about
one hundred and thirty millimeters across. I've got enough about
to do it, but it's got no holes in it.

Speaker 11 (36:51):
And I was just wondering if there was a formula
if you could do it, If there's a formula that
you could so you know how many holes per meter?

Speaker 5 (37:06):
The pro that you're talking about that drainage coil, right,
So you know Bailey, for example, make black snake. Other
manufacturers call it different things, but drainage coil. The flexible
one comes either punched or unpunched. So the unpunched one,
which is the one that you seem to have, is

(37:27):
useful for sort of you know, directing water to an outlet,
but it's not useful for collecting water. So if you
were to put that at the bottom of the retaining wall,
because that you know, water is going to come down,
hit the back of the wall and then seep down
and be collected in that pipe, that pipe will do

(37:48):
absolutely nothing that's obviously why you're thinking about drilling holes
in it. Okay, I mean, look, I've got to say
the easiest thing to do would be to go and
get some punched drainage coil and install. But if you
don't want to do that, then what I would do

(38:09):
is go and have a look at some drainage coil
that's punched. Look at roughly how many holes, and off
the top of my head, I would say that every
second rib would have holes at let's say ten or
fifteen millimeters separation, and each one would only be about
three or four It's not even a hole. It's actually

(38:30):
like a little rectangular slot. But you can't do those
with a drill. So if I was doing it, and
I'm almost hesitant to suggest you do this, but it'll
probably work. As you need to lay the pipe out,
you need to get like a say, a four mil
drill bit, and every second corrugation in the dip of it,
you'd probably go. I deal it. You could, if you

(38:54):
wanted to get really technical, not do them on the bottom,
and that might actually help you. But if you did
the top, let's say, if it's a clock, right, if
you went from say eight o'clock to four o'clock, with
twelve o'clock being the top of the pipe, or even
five o'clock, seven o'clock through to five o'clock. I'm looking
at a clock right now, so I know exactly what

(39:15):
I mean. Six is at the bottom, twelve is at
the top. You'd start at seven o'clock. You'd go all
the way around the pipe with four milimeter holes at
fifteen milimeter centers every second channel or rib in there
all the way along, and that would give you some drainage.

Speaker 11 (39:34):
Well, i'd be quicker to go.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
It might be way quicker to go down and buy yourself,
depending on how long, because in some places we'll sell
it by the meter. So a lot of the smaller
hardware stores and that will often have a coil of
that punch drainage coil out the back and you measure
up what you need put it there. The other thing,
and I'm probably telling you things that you already know,

(39:58):
it's really important that that the drainage coil discharges somewhere
right So I've seen any number of its drainage coil
where it just stops it either end of the retaining wall.
So really it should discharge into a cesspit or a
catch pit, which should then be connected to your storm
water in order to actually get that working. Or if

(40:18):
it's in a larger section and you don't mind about
the water going out, you cut a little trench at
one end of the wall and you take that out
and let it run into the garden or wherever it's
going to go, because it will work if the water
has got somewhere to go.

Speaker 12 (40:34):
I've got to.

Speaker 11 (40:34):
Creep running through probably two meters from where the wall
is the property.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Then just poke the end out into there, and you
know it's not going to alter the amount of water
getting to the creek anyway naturally, because all you're doing
is capturing it and diverting it. So yeah, just make
sure that that end goes out. And also just think
about when you're installing that drainage pipe that punched drainage
coil there, try and keep it level or even you know,

(41:04):
if you can have a little bit of fall on
it so it's actually heading towards the outlet as well.
All of these things will make a big difference. And
I think you know, I've noticed that one of the
reasons that retaining walls fail or there's issues with leakage
and so on over time is because the drainage coil
hasn't been installed properly and it should have fall to
one end. So good luck with that, but I would

(41:24):
race down and get some new stuff. Righty, Oh, we're
almost on top of news Sport and we're the top
of the are at seven. Back after the.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Break dowing of the house sorting the garden asked Pete
for a hand. The resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp called
News dogs'd be.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Well, a very good morning and welcome back to the program.
My name's Pete wolf Camp. This is the resident builder
on Sunday with me, Pete wolf Camp. So if you've
got a question of a building nature and already on
the program, it's been fairly broad from sort of you know,
water damage to an existing floor and an insurance claim
vertical cladding on a five year old house that's already

(42:02):
showing signs of cupping, which there's probably a certain tolerance
for that. But then is it extensive? Is it a
problem with the product, is it a problem with the installation,
Is it a problem with the coating that was applied
to it afterwards? And what happens when the developer just says,
not my problem. Where do you go then as a homeowner,

(42:25):
and we're talking about a little bit about fixing plasterboard
and apprenticeships and drainage coil as well, and someone's TechEd through.
Actually the drainage coil needs to be wrapped in drainage
cloth and then a layer of drainage metal applied that
stops the fine soils blocking the holes and the pipe. Funny, yeah,
I have conversations with people every day, obviously about building stuff.

(42:48):
But remember in chat to one drainage guy who went, ah,
and I don't bother about the filter sock around the
coil that tends to get blocked up, and then the
sediment blocks the outer layer blocks the filter cloth and
then nothing goes into the pipe. It's probably one of

(43:12):
those discussions best had over a beer at the end
of the day. But it's interesting. There's always counter opinion
somewhere along the line. But I've used the filter sock
and I think it makes sense to try and stop
those fines. The sediment that's in soil anyway eventually being
dragged along by the moisture as it's on its way

(43:32):
to the drainage coil to then end up stopping that
filling it up, Although saying that it's one hundred mili
diameter how long. I'm just trying to think if you've
ever had one where you've pulled out a retaining wall
and it's had some drainage coil and it didn't have
filter slock on it and you happen to cut through
dissecting just like you did at science back in the day,

(43:55):
dissecting the pipe, how much sediment's actually in there, and
does a little bit of sediment at the bottom actually
stop it from working properly? I feel there's got to
be a brand study in there where, a long term,
longitudinal study of the efficacy of drainage sock filter sock
over drainage coil versus without it would be quite an

(44:19):
interesting little study. Actually.

Speaker 12 (44:20):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
If there's a PhD student out there looking for something
to do. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that
able to call open line on all things building in construction?
This morning? And I mean, you know, one of the
last comments was around builders and quality and so on.
I mentioned I've been in christ Church a couple of

(44:41):
days this week and went out to have a look
at some Actually Dan Saunders, who was on the show
a couple of months ago talking about the renovation guide
that's come out from the super home movement, we went
to see one of the jobs that he's building. So
four little townhouses are just outside of christ Church, CBD,
really top quality, basically super homes, right, and the one

(45:04):
at the front, which has been for Bob Burnette, who's
an architect and head of the super movement, is going
to be zero carbon, possibly one of the first zero
carbon houses in New Zealand. Anyway, it was fascinated. Its
great to go out there and have a bit of
a chat. Went out to a couple of factories as well.
Tell you a bit about that later on This morning,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

(45:26):
It's ten past seven. The lines are open. The number
is eight hundred eighty ten eighty Andrew, good morning.

Speaker 19 (45:33):
Good morning, great for going very well.

Speaker 12 (45:36):
It's good.

Speaker 19 (45:37):
Got an interesting question and I think a lot of
people are going to be in my position very shortly.
I've got guessing the house for both hot water and cooking. Now, yep,
what it convert it over to electric? I live in
a town in a flat apartment type complex we have,

(45:58):
we've got body corps, so putting an outdoor hot water
and won't be easy to do or approved by body court.
What's involved in putting the cylinder in a cupboard and
in running the water pipes through the wall?

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Do you.

Speaker 19 (46:16):
Where do you tie into the can you tie in
to just any output to feed the whole house for
the hot water?

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Obviously that's ultimately going to be a question answered by
your plumber, and you'll need a license gas fitter as
well to come and do the decommission. Look in general,
actually a question for you first, what's driving your desire
to move from gas to electric.

Speaker 19 (46:46):
Defect? I'm paying sixty dollars a month every month.

Speaker 15 (46:50):
Just to have the gas connected, Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 19 (46:54):
And when it's sixty a month and I can't see
it going down at any point, I'm packing that in
five years time it could be one hundred and twenty
a month.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah sure, okay, because in.

Speaker 19 (47:09):
The last four years it's gone from a dollar a
dollar fifty amount up to now sixty dollars right, Okay,
it was only meto since per day previously. Now we're
talking dollars per day.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yeah, sure, sure, I mean, it's still going to be
a fairly significant investment for you to swap over, and
so it's you know, if you go, I'm doing it
to save money, but I'm going to spend I don't know,
eighteen thousand dollars swapping over as a project. That's a
lot of sixty dollars a month charges, but hey, look

(47:47):
good on you. And then there's an environmental side of it,
which says, you know, there's a lot to be recommended
for a swap from gas domestically to electric. So in
terms of working with the Body Corp, I guess it
is alterations to the building, including penetrations through the exterior

(48:08):
that you would need approval from the Body Corp for. So,
if you've currently got gas hot water, we do have
gas hot water and cooking. Yeah, okay, so the gas
hot water, is that a califont on the exterior of
the building or isn't?

Speaker 19 (48:22):
Yes, Yes, it is. Okay, I'm picking removing the califont
and a gas meter that's on the other side of
a building because there's two boxes yep, well on either side.
Removing them and capping off a gas line would be
allowed and wouldn't be an issue The issue is the
esthetics would be having any sort of outside, particularly where

(48:47):
I live on a main street, and people could literally
look over a fence and see it and think, okay,
easy target.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Or isn't someone wants to steal your hot water cylinder?

Speaker 19 (49:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Yeah, I mean there's not a lot of point in
stealing hot water cylinders anymore because most the lining on
the inside is no longer copper, right, A lot of
them are stainless steel now, so not a messive. I
wouldn't be too worried about that. And you know, burglar's
got to work really hard to make your hot water.

Speaker 19 (49:20):
But den it's also vandalism as well.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Yeah, okay, look, I guess you have to judge that
for yourself. But I mean, look, there are external hot
water systems that that would be the simplest way for
you to transition in terms of swapping your hot water
supply from gas to electric is if you were to
put your new electric cylinder where your old gas Califont was,

(49:44):
then obviously you've still got your main's water supply coming
in and then you've got your hot water out in
proximity to it, so that that would be by far
the simplest, you may need to look at whether or
not the electrical supply is sufficient for a hot water cylinder,
for an electric hot water cylinder. So so the electric

(50:07):
supply that runs out to the Califont will be you know,
a standard maybe a ten A switch, because all it's
doing is keeping the pilot light going right, whereas.

Speaker 19 (50:19):
There's no currently its call system going out to the
Califont at present. I've got one of the old ones
from about fifteen years ago.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Okay, all right, so that's going to be a bit
of a challenge in terms of getting a new cable
from the distribution board inside the house. Yeah, across, But
these things are solvable. Look that absolutely. The simplest thing
is going to be put your new electric system adjacent
to where the old gas one was, as long as

(50:49):
you can get the electrical supply there at least the
plumbing is there already. And then obviously with your gas hobbs,
is it gas hobs or gas oven and hobbs?

Speaker 15 (51:00):
Guesshobs only, I just gas hobs.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Okay, So depending on the type of bench top that
you've got, should just be a relatively simple thing. If
that one comes out, and I guess you're thinking about induction,
it'll be I.

Speaker 19 (51:15):
Thought, I don't know if would be induction or not.
I haven't heard a lot of good A doubt induction
so far, and people I know he had induction problem
up to problem.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
It's interesting because I've got a really good mate who
loves cooking, swore by having gas and moved to an
apartment where they only had induction now absolutely loves it.
As it happens, one of my sisters is a very
good actually both of them probably good cooks. I'm not
going to upset my sisters now, but one of my
sisters in particular is a great cook also changed to

(51:51):
induction recently and absolutely loves it. So anyway, Look, the
good thing is you can do it. And there is
lots and lots of arguments being made now that more
and more of us should move from gas supply to
electric for our hot water, our heating and our cooking

(52:12):
as well. So look, I think you're on the right track.
Good on you for having to go, and actually I'd
love to know where you get to in the end.
Thanks very much for that, Danny. Good morning to you, sir.

Speaker 15 (52:23):
Yeah morning feed drains coiled study, Yeah please.

Speaker 12 (52:28):
Yeah, I've got to shed that's about twenty years old.

Speaker 20 (52:31):
Probably we bought I'm redoing hard stand round, pulled some
of that up.

Speaker 12 (52:35):
There's about two centimeters of sediment in it.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
At the bottom. Years and this is a you know,
the typical perforated or punch drainage coil, and over twenty
years this oil.

Speaker 12 (52:45):
Yeah, no sock, but mind you, all the other new
stuff at put socks on.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Yeah, and look, if there's a little bit of sediment
in the bottom like it's it's probably having a negligible
impact on the amount of flow. I guess the curious
question is does more water filter its way through the
drainage material, through all the scoria and so on, and
get into the pipe quicker than if it had to

(53:14):
work its way through the filter sock, which in twenty
years might also be covered in a layer of sediment,
you know what I mean, Who knows exactly, But I
do like the fact that you've opened it up and
there you go, this a little bit of sediment at
the bottom. But it's fine. Obviously it's still working.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
I decided it wasn't enough to worth replacing it.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Hey, look, I love the real world experimentation.
I think that's awesome, not a problem all of this.
You have a great day, take care, do you go,
there's some real world experimentation. Probably would have cost a
couple of grand to sort of set up a test
like that, probably even more.

Speaker 15 (53:54):
Do you go.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Danny's done it for us. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Just on the
whole swapping from gas to electric morin a peak. Hope
you made the executive decision after eleven years change us
from gas hot water to soul cost US seventeen grand,
and now the whole house is supplied by solar and
we can sell the backup to the grid. Gas became
way too expensive at one hundred and ninety five dollars

(54:16):
a bottle and two hundred and twenty dollars rental charge
per year. We've now got a water cylinder outside and
it's great. Have a great day from V and Paul.
Thank you very much for that the other thing, and
I had a conversation with someone about it the other
day around basically heat pump hot water, so hot water

(54:36):
cylinders arguably are sometimes not always that efficient, or they're
better now than they used to. Be, but there's still
some challenges with them. So if anyone's had the opportunity
to install a heat pump hot water system, which is
considerably more efficient, I'd love to hear from you. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

(54:58):
just ticked over seven twenty here at Newstalks the'b. If
you've got a question, well, good news is I've got
a spare line for you right now, eight hundred eighty
ten eight.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Call us now, whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens,
or wondering how to fix that hole in the wall.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Give Peter Wolf capit.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Call on.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
The resident builder on news dogs'd be your news dogs.
There'd be a couple of quick texts that have come
through as well. Pete your opinion. Please a new build
internal double garage. The builder wants to put down carpet.
I've always had polished concrete and mopped the floor or
mop the water off the cars, which is often quite
a bit which way to go, cheers from Elf. I mean, look,
the garage carpet is designed to get wet right, so

(55:38):
it's not dissimilar to the sort of carpet that you
might use on a boat, for example, But obviously you
don't have an option of mopping it, and if your
car gets particularly wet, I'm not sure how that works,
then maybe you'd want to. But look, I've for the
times that we've installed and I've never had someone say
it's it's been a problem, so I think it's well,

(56:02):
it's completely up to you, but it doesn't seem to
be an issue in terms of water from the car
onto the carpet. And another quick text from Paul. We're
looking at selling our home, moving to the hawks Bait
and buying a small rural section putting a two bedroom
tiny home on it. Do you know what the quality

(56:23):
of tiny homes are with regard to insallation, build construction quality.
We're looking at a company and they do mention the name.
They look after the whole process from building to transportation
to the site. The company that you mentioned I've had
a look at and seems pretty good to be fair quality. Well,
this is one of those things. It's pretty variable. Certainly.

(56:43):
I've been involved with a couple of situations where people
have commissioned a company to build them a tiny home
and it's been average at best. And yet there are
also companies out there doing essentially high performance homes or
getting close to high performance, where they've got really good
structures in place. They end up with a quality build,

(57:06):
not cutting any corners, and you end up with a
great house. It just happens to be smaller than most houses,
which is awesome. So Paul, I think, look around, but
it seems like the company that you've opted for seems
pretty reliable to me. We'll come back with more of
your texts in a moment, but first up, Mary, good
morning to you.

Speaker 13 (57:23):
Good morning Peter grad Show. I probably haven't got enough
information for you. I've got a nineteen seventies flat townhouse flat. Yes,
I recently got in a build a home handy man
friend of a friend, which was a dumb thing to do,
but we won't go into that. But he puts some

(57:44):
sealant on the sunroom. Now it's the sunroom before you
needed any council certification.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Or anything like that.

Speaker 13 (57:52):
So a lot, it's on a smooth on the outside,
it's along a smooth concrete lip, and then the vertical
side that goes up towards the window is stucco like it.
So he put the sealant along to stop water going
in now when things were going wrong and things like that,

(58:15):
and he finally left, I thought, I'll just check everything.
And one of the things I found is when I
put the hose on the sealant, the water was still
going inside to the conservative to the sub room, which
fortunately is a concrete floor. But I don't like the
idea of water going into the building structure at all.

(58:37):
It's on a concrete flot. The whole play is there one,
is there a risk of any rot or anything happening anywhere?
And to is there a celant to stop this? I
went along to a hardware store and they says that
you can't stop it because the water can get in
sort of anywhere. I didn't quite understand that.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Sorry I shouldn't laugh, but oh lord, okay, yep, all right,
Sorry I shouldn't have laughed.

Speaker 13 (59:08):
No, you're quite right, because I ran it past somebody
else and they were like, what what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
So it's kind of like you go into the store,
you talk to the person there, and welcome to my store.
We have lots and lots of ceilants, but don't worry,
none of them really work. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 14 (59:26):
Exactly right.

Speaker 13 (59:27):
And I actually took a video of it, you know,
with a hose on it, and went from the outside
to the inside and put toilet paper along the inside
to show it wasting the toilet paper. Yes, And he said,
the guy at the hardware store said, the water can
travel and it's not necessarily going and wear the ceiling.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
And I'm like, they're right to be a little bit cautious.
And funnily enough, on my hundreds of thousands of photographs
on my phone at the moment, there is one of
me doing exactly that. Last week. I'm up on the
first floor. I'm trying to figure out why these windows
are leaking or why these water coming into the building.

(01:00:09):
And there's me with a hose essentially testing the seilants
and testing the the use of them, their application of them,
wondering where the leak is coming from. And look, if
I'm really honest, some stuff that I did prior to
Christmas worked well and got about ninety percent of the leak.

(01:00:31):
But there is one small persistent leak that's still happening.
So I think I've identified it. I'll go back there
this week and sort that out. So look, in terms
of seilants. The fact is there are there's a wide
variety of sealants, and there sometimes for very different tasks.
So I've seen people use gap filler, which is designed

(01:00:53):
for interior use, where you know, maybe alongside an architrave
there's a small gap and you run a bead of
sealants through there, strike it off, and then you paint
over it. Now, if you took that tube and used
it outside, it might look like white sealant outside, but
it's not going to perform in the same way that
if you use, you know, a sealant that is going

(01:01:14):
to be more durable and prevent water from getting in
there inside. Then you go and paint it and find
the paint doesn't stick to it, then you're going, well
that's the wrong sealant. Well, yes it is, because that's
designed for outside. So look good quality sealants like sud
AL and L Y s U s O U d
A L SUDL the right one and the right application

(01:01:39):
applied correctly, so you know, clean the surface down, make
sure that there's you know that it's a relatively clean
and dry surface, apply it, strike it off properly, those
sorts of things. But you're right you could apply a
bead of sealant down the side of the window and
find actually that the leak is coming from the head flashing,

(01:01:59):
or it's coming from the bit of cladding above that,
or it's coming from the roof, you know what I mean.
And so that bead of sealant isn't going to stop.
But if that's not where the water is coming from.
But if you're able to and what you're doing is
textbook right. So you've done the sealant, then you test
it with a hose and a reasonable amount of pressure,
not too much pressure, and find that actually I can

(01:02:22):
see that I'm directing the water at the junction and
the water's going through there. Then yes, I would remove
that sealant, replace that sealant, test it again, and then
carry on from there. But there are sealants that will
protect that junction from leaking.

Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
When I remove it, I simply peel it off. Now
do I have to put it? I'm assuming I peel
it off as that one.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
Yeah, And if it's a decent sealant, a little bit
of it should still stay stuck to the surfaces so
you can actually get I got it the other day.
It's a spray for silicon removal. So once you've cut
out the bulk of the sealant, use the spray. It
dissolves the last of it. Then you clean that off,
leave that to thoroughly dry or wipe it down, make

(01:03:08):
sure that none of it remains there, and then when
the areas dry, reapply your sealant there.

Speaker 13 (01:03:14):
And there's the sealant removal of particular brand or any brand.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
I think actually the one that I got was from
Pseudel as well.

Speaker 13 (01:03:21):
Okay, and when you say clean arter you've done this sealant,
clean it off with.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
A detergent or yeah, just some warm soapy water something
like that. Let that dry thoroughly because I guess what
you don't want to do is use silicon remover and
then put silicon over the top of the residue of
the silicon remover because that will act against the new silicon.
So there's a couple of steps in that.

Speaker 13 (01:03:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I might give it a
couple of clean currants and then let it dry and
go from there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
And the other thing just for people who are listening
as well, that when you're testing for leaks like that,
work from the bottom up, right, because what you what
you're trying to do is determine at what point, as
I go up the exterior of the building or whatever,
where am I getting the leak. So if you start
from the top and the water is flowing down a
two meter long or three meter long area, you don't

(01:04:11):
know where the leak is actually starting from. So when
you're testing for leaks, start from the bottom, work your
way up.

Speaker 13 (01:04:17):
Oh there's oh right, yeah, this was horizontal along the bottom,
so that was fine.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Just workay from one end.

Speaker 13 (01:04:26):
That helps me with unders because in the history I've
found a good training which I never kept the number
of about fifteen years ago into it leaks and the
top of this little sun roam, and I thought it
must be from the nails and the roof, but it
can travel and then it can have that capilliary action
and all sorts of things where it's coming from Earth.

Speaker 15 (01:04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
And the other thing too, is one of the challenges
I guess with sun roofs in some of the ways
that they are installed is that they're just abutted to
the existing building, and then you're fully reliant on the
ceilant to provide that rather than you know, conventionally we
tuck a flashing up and then we have an overlap
by the cladding and so on. But often that doesn't happen.

(01:05:08):
But I think you're on the right track and you're
applying a little bit of silent science to it as well.
All the best you marry, you have a great day,
Take care all right, all the best. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty the number quick text. Before the break,
my wife and I were wanting to replace a window
in our home. The exterior cladding is hardy text. I'm
just wondering if there are any issues with this, particularly

(01:05:30):
with weather tightness. Is plastering the way to go? How
do we know if the plastering job is done properly
so if it's hardy text, I guess the issue is
is it hardy text which is direct fixed with us
spray coating over the top. If you're going to replace
the window, as long as you're not changing the window
size and you can get a head flashing in there,

(01:05:55):
I presume there's one there already, so your new window
could tuck in underneath the existing head flashing. What you
might find when you pop the old window out is
there's not a lot of weather tightness around the junction
between the cladding and the wall framing, in which case
maybe you apply some tape there. It might not have
a sill flashing, which case, ideally you'd put in a

(01:06:16):
sill flashing. And then I'm guessing that it's just the
extrusion of the aluminum window that's in there is pressed
hard back against the hardy techs and sealed around the perimeter.
And well, I mean, if that's not leaking at the
moment you're replacing the window for another reason, then replacing
the window in the same way as the window was
installed in the past shouldn't give you any leaks if

(01:06:38):
it didn't leak in the past. If it's leaking, it's
whole other story. I hope that helps, right. We need
to take short break there. We'll talk to Kate in
just a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
A squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice
from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
A couple of interesting texts coming in as well. I'll
try and get to those in just a moment. But
first up, Kate, good morning to you. Hello, how are
you very well?

Speaker 11 (01:07:02):
And you.

Speaker 17 (01:07:04):
Too bad? I've just got a thing here the back room.
I'm actually not talking about my place, but i'm speaking
on behalf of the month. The back room, there's an
office and it looks out onto a pathio. Now presently
it's got big lake and for it's worth he as

(01:07:32):
light because he's he he's skips quite a bitter. Sure
he's got. So we've looked at blinds and for a start,
those woods. It's the two meter.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Windows wide or two meters high.

Speaker 17 (01:07:52):
Two mets two meters and and with and we've looked
at one and Bunnings and it's like it's double it's
got kind of a see through blind and then another
one coming from the same rail that you can pull down,

(01:08:15):
and that's the darker ones. But ultimately vanestion blinds are
too expensive. But we've thought about those wooden ones. Yes,
what's your opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Look, I mean it comes down to application and cost, right,
So if there's one that you can buy off the
shelf and it's going to work for you, then that's
going to work. But I think sometimes there's a bit
of a challenge where window openings and so on different sizes,
and so finding something that will fit is challenging. Could

(01:08:47):
the other option is to there's lots of places now
where you can order like roller blinds online and they're
relatively simple to install. And you could get a blackout
roller blind that you know will arrive. You give them
the internal dimensions of the opening, they'll make the blind
to suit. It comes, you screw two brackets into either side,

(01:09:10):
clip the blind into it, and it'll be the right size.
So I wonder whether an online option for a roller
blind might be the simplest solution for you.

Speaker 17 (01:09:22):
And what sort of what sort of fabrics are we
talking about? Would it be canvas?

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
Yeah, I mean it's I mean there's all sorts of
different fabrics that blind installers use or blind suppliers use,
but often it's how would you describe it, it's not
really canvas, but you know, it's a heavy weight material.
You can get them at a diffuse if you want
to have some light and just some privacy, or you
can go the blackout blinds. But to be fair and

(01:09:50):
last couple of projects, I've used them quite a bit
because they're a really straightforward solution and they you know,
and then you can get them cleaned later on as well.
I'll talk about that later on. Too good luck with that, Kate,
But I think ordering online getting exactly the right size
sounds like the better option. Andrew, good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (01:10:08):
I might have missed part of the conversation for but
just for the cleaning up and resilicon and fixing water leaks,
I've had a bit of success lately. I've had to
redo some gutter corners and ends and scrape the hell
out with a paint scraper just up. And it's often
tricky to get into a long screw driver. But I
reckon the key to it is I pour a few bit.

Speaker 15 (01:10:29):
Of myths in there to clean any bacteria.

Speaker 21 (01:10:31):
And mold and gunk and wipe it out with a
class let it dry because it dries and a vair
parate's easy.

Speaker 19 (01:10:36):
And then fill it up with bloody the silicon and stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:10:39):
And it's honestly, all these I've had one hundred percent
strike great.

Speaker 19 (01:10:43):
It's been great.

Speaker 21 (01:10:44):
And I reckon the meths is a bit of the key.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Yeah, But the preparation is the key too, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:10:50):
Definitely like all of that stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:10:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Get rid of the old stuff, clean it. You know,
whether it's like you could use a nice appropriate alcohol
or in your case, use some mess or you can
use the silicon remover and that sort of thing. But
getting that surface clean and dry and then reapplying the sealant,
and man, isn't it satisfying too when you're standing looking
up at that drip that comes out of the junction

(01:11:13):
in the corner of your spouting and then it's not
there after you've done the job.

Speaker 21 (01:11:18):
Well, it's the damages going to the paint work where
it splashes, and it's in the rhyme, you know, So
we're just repainted. It's nice.

Speaker 12 (01:11:25):
The drops have to be fixed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Yeah, absolutely, it's good. It's all. I appreciate that, Andrew,
thank you so all the very I mean, I know
we talk with the raisine guys, with Bryson, with Jay
from Razine quite a bit, and it's always preparation and
that goes for gosh, it's almost anything in building. You know,
whether you're doing some seilant, you got to make sure

(01:11:49):
that that's prepped. If you're doing a job, you know,
if you want a good paint job, it's it's about
preparation in terms of cleanliness or sanding or getting rid
of dust and so on. Everything is preparation for a
good outcome. O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number to call? Sixty five inch TV on
the wall?

Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
Really not bad?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Sixty five in I think I might be the only
man in history who's ever returned to an appliance store
with a television saying it's too big. Now, that's a
story from a while ago, but we're not going to
go there. It still hurts of it. But anyway, right,

(01:12:29):
Pet says the text sixty five inch TV. We need
to put it on the wall. It's steel stud. What
kind of screws do I need? Preferably something that I
can wack on my Impactrol says Nate. Yes, you could
fix the bracket that you need to put onto the
wall in order to hang your sixty five inch TV up,

(01:12:51):
as long as you can identify exactly where the steel studds,
which means you'll probably need a stud finder or something similar.
But then you'd want to use a screw with a
fine thread in order to bind into the steel stud.
And if the fixing's no good, you can toggle into
the plaster board as well. If you use some good

(01:13:13):
quality toggles that'll hold the TV. No trouble at all.
But of course if you do toggle into plasterboard, when
you take that away, you'll end up with, you know,
at least a ten probably twelve milimeter hole, whereas a
screw is going to be a little bit finer, but
fine thread screw you'll be absolutely fine. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've

(01:13:35):
got a question of a building nature. Well, the lines
are open for you right now. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. It is seven forty four at News Talks
B helping you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Get those DIY projects done right. The resident Filder with
Peter Wolfcat call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth
Talk ZB.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
In some ways, I probably should have left the microphone
on during the conversation that I've just had with Locke,
my producer. Both of us are getting just mild and
excited about the thought that immediately when the show finishes,
this yere at nine o'clock. Not that I'm keen to
get out of here, but I am today because we're
both going to trot across Devenport to the Tool Bizarre,

(01:14:14):
which is happening outside the Clay Store, which is the
community workshop in Devenport twenty seven Lake Row, just in
case you're interested. And then Locke, it's the impossible question
what tool should I buy? Well everything, of course, but
and then we got onto a nice conversation about chisels

(01:14:36):
and so what do you look for in a chisel,
and I was just telling them that, like, I've got
my set of chisels, which is a good quality Japanese
set of chisels that I've had probably for thirty odd years,
and then in the workshop, I've got my ever growing
collection of old and beautiful chisels that I happen to
pick up at various flea markets and so on. And

(01:14:59):
I may well come home with a new chisel or
a new old chisel today as well. But if it's
got like Sheffield steel or something that stamped onto it,
then that's great. Even if it's a little bit rusty,
even if the blade is a bit nicked and all
the rest of it, you can you can deal with that.
But if the quality of the steel is there, then
you can end up having a beautiful sharp chisel from

(01:15:21):
an old kind of munted one that you might find
at a flea market like the one that we're going
to today, folks, I might see you there. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Means I won't get to Central Flea, which is where
I normally go on a Sunday. But hey, I'll be
back there next week, I think so.

Speaker 15 (01:15:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
And look, I love these little tool markets. I quite
like there's a community aspect to all of this as well,
like going to a flea market or a car boot
sale that sort of thing. It's also about being with
people and doing a little bit of business and a
bit of trading and recycling as well. You know, old tools,

(01:16:01):
if they're sitting in your workshop and you're not using
them and you don't think you'll need them in the
near future, why not provide an opportunity for someone else
to buy them. And if you're someone who's starting out
and you think, ah, I could go and get some
maybe some old quality tools that I can restore, that's
not a bad thing. It's all very instagramy too at
the moment, old tools and collections of tools and that

(01:16:23):
sort of thing. To be fear, my workshop doesn't look
like anything like you might see on Instagram with all
these beautiful tools, neatly arrayed on the walls and all
the rest of it. That's not my workshop at all.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's talk all
things building and construction and John a very good morning.

Speaker 12 (01:16:43):
Good morning ratings.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Are you very well?

Speaker 12 (01:16:47):
What's up?

Speaker 20 (01:16:49):
Poverty which is about twenty years old and maybe a
bit more. I moved and it was already built. It's
a retaining wall at the back end of the poverty, yes,
and it's lower than the front. Obviously the neighbor has
been complained and that the water is leaking out of

(01:17:12):
this retaining wall? Am I responsible for fitting that?

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
It really depends on which side of the boundary it's on.
So is it definitely your retaining wall?

Speaker 20 (01:17:25):
Well, I would imagine, so it's holding of the.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
Half of the garden, right, Okay, yeah, but sometimes it
looks most likely I think it is going to be
your responsibility in terms of it's to your benefit. But
let's say years ago, prior to you owning the house,
the neighbor actually wanted to create a flat area, so

(01:17:51):
they installed a retaining wall which allowed them to excavate
down and give them cells a flat area. And which case,
you know, depending on where the boundary is, it may
in fact be their retaining wall. So the first thing
that I would do is determine whether the which side
of the boundary is the retaining wall. If it's on
your side, then it is your responsibility. And yes, there

(01:18:14):
is a responsibility for you to control stormwater discharge in
general from your property. So if the neighbor is saying, well, look,
you know, every time it rains, I'm getting this torrent
of water, or no matter how much water coming out
of the bottom of the retaining wall onto my property,
you'll need to do something about that. Saying that that

(01:18:35):
could actually be not terribly easy to do, depending on
where your existing drainage is, because chances are that retaining wall,
the bottom of that wall is a long way below
your existing stormwater, in which case, in order to do
anything about it, you'd be you know, potentially digging in

(01:18:56):
a catch pit there, collecting the water, running power out
to it, putting in a pump, and pumping that water
back out and up to your existing stormwater. That's a
several thousand dollars exercise. Yeah, so before you offer it,
I mean, if it's on your side, I think you

(01:19:16):
do have a responsibility. But I also understand that if
you accept responsibility and say that you're going to do
something about it, you're you're going to have to spend
a decent chunk of money.

Speaker 20 (01:19:28):
Oh very good.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
Okay then yeah, but there are rights and responsibilities that
you have under the Property Act. So yes, if it's
if the water is coming from your property and it's
on to your neighbors, you have a responsibility to deal
with that.

Speaker 20 (01:19:44):
Oh very good.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
All right, all the very best to you, John, take
care bother. The your news talk said be oh wait,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We might have time for one more before the news. Lynn,
good morning, I've got a calisey your house, Yes, and
I wanted to spray it was ripcord.

Speaker 13 (01:20:03):
Well, let affect the.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
When you say color steel house, this is you've got
metal cladding. Yeah, on the exterior of the house as well.

Speaker 7 (01:20:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
Yes, And then you want to use ripcord, which is
an insect aside, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:20:19):
It is.

Speaker 7 (01:20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Look, the best thing to do is to go to
a small area that's you know, maybe at the back
of the house or somewhere that's not obvious. And apply
some and see what happens to it, and if it
does discolor it there, then obviously I'd look at using
a different type of insect control. But the best thing
to do is just test it.

Speaker 10 (01:20:41):
Okay, yep, I'll do that well. And I had a
second question. I've got to go to each end of
this house and if I or if I get a
latch just the farm lacked the ue shape put into
the hammet into the through the color steel, will it

(01:21:02):
create a leak?

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
You've got to be a little bit careful about that.
I would probably if you the best thing to do
would be to find, like what you'll find when you're
looking at the exterior of the cladding is there'll be
a row of fixings right so where that row of
fixings are, there will be something solid behind that that

(01:21:26):
you could fix into. So what you want to do
is either make sure that your fixings are going through
there and you're using the right fixing with a Neo
Preme washer so that you're not allowing water to get
in there. Or you could actually have maybe a small
plate made that you could roof it onto the ribs
of the metal cladding and then fix your bracket to that.

Speaker 10 (01:21:50):
Yeah, I was going to get the builder to do
it anyway, but I think it was him that actually
said or you know, they didn't want to create any Yeah,
good on them.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
And that's exactly the right approach to take. So I
think being cautious around and this is a good general
rule right for any extra cladding. You don't want to
just go screwing anything to anywhere because there's always a
potential that will cause leks. But there will be a
way of doing it and either you know, using the
right fixings or having putting a plate on that's only

(01:22:20):
fixed the rip, that might be the way to go.
Good luck with all of that, Linn, I'm sure there'll
be a solution. Could you repeat the address of the
tour market, Yes, twenty seven Lake Road in Devonport. It's
outside the old Clay store in Devenport. See there after
nine back after.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
The break.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter
wolfgab the resident builder. News talks there'd be.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
You and news talks there'd be and it's open line
on all things building and construction. So if you've got
a question of a building nature, whether it is I'm
just looking back through the notes today, wooden floors, vertical cladding,
fixing plaster or drainage coil converting from gas to electric,
that was a good one, seilants, blinds, retaining walls, And

(01:23:08):
just before the break we're talking or Lynn asked about
is there a ripcord, which is, from my understanding, an
insecticide of some description. Does it have an impact on
metal cladding in terms of if you applied over there.
We've had a couple of texts on that. Jay texture
and says, hey, look, ripcord can leave a white residue

(01:23:29):
sometimes depending on the color of the paint, but it
can be washed off easily. But that of course negates
the whole point of using some sort of residual spray
to help.

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
With your.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
Insect control. It is one of the things like dark
claddings and that they do tend to attract spiders, a
which I think is the reason that people probably want
to look at spraying some sort of insecticide on there.
I'm mildly distracted by what is potentially the best text
of the day. They're all good, but there's always a favorite.

(01:24:06):
My Chisels says the person. We had a bit of
a discussion about old tools and chisels and the quality
of old steel in some of the chisels that you
might be able to buy. It's something like the Devnport
tool Bizarre, which happens to be would have started just
a couple of minutes ago, and we'll be there in
about an hour and a bit. Anyway, my chisel, says
the texter. My chisels are exceptionally good quality steel. They

(01:24:29):
have to be, as they double as screwdrivers. That's got
to be, like I'm going to take a photograph of that.
I'm going to keep that. That's it would be even
funnier if it wasn't true. Probably it's either that or
tin openers using either your screwdriver or potentially your chisel,

(01:24:54):
or using chisels as pride bars that sort of thing
as well. Oh that's fantastic. Good news about most chisels, though,
is if you've got the right gear, you can sharpen
them and return them to their the intention that God
created or God decided when he created chisels. But anyway,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to

(01:25:15):
call if you've got a question of building nature. We're
talking all things building in construction, tips and tricks are
the right product to use, and this is an increasingly issue,
but it's something to be mindful of, which is as
we get I guess more and more sophisticated products and
a wider range of products. They're designed for specific purposes

(01:25:38):
and sometimes you could use it in a situation that
you weren't expecting. But most of the time it's the
right product for the right application will give you the
right outcome. A couple of other techs that have come
through as well Morning Peak. I've got a two story
house with a flat buttantyl roof. This is leaking and
the roof has recommend that I use a product and

(01:25:59):
then they name the product. I'll leave that out for
now instead of replacing the butteanyl. I have questions in
my mind regarding the potential longevity of such a coating
and would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks from Gary. Gary. Look,
I mean, if your existing roof is leaking, then it's
probably reached the end of its life. Now there are

(01:26:20):
applications in this case for coatings that will adhere to
butte nyl and provide you with another water proof or
weather type coating over the top.

Speaker 21 (01:26:31):
Of it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
But for example, if the butteanyl has started to delaminate
from the substrate, or if there's a failure in the substrate,
or there's a failure in the fixings of the substrate,
all of which I've seen, then applying a coating isn't
going to help that. But if it's kind of a
protective measure, if you're realistic about the longevity of your fix,

(01:26:56):
then yes it's worth investigating, would be my approach to it. Yeah,
let us know how you get on with that. One
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call now. Last week on the show too, around
this time, we had a chat with John Davies. John
is with pro Climber. Pro Climber of the people who
are hosting a series of seminars that are going to

(01:27:18):
happen around the country next week, So christ Church, Wellington, Auckland.
The Oakland event is on Friday, the sixth of March.
It's the Building Science Summit. I've had a number of
people sort of asked me about that during the course
of the week. Best way to have a look at
it is to go online. You'll find that event Bright

(01:27:40):
have the tickets and the details. So it's the Building
Science Summit, certainly looking forward to that and some of
the guys that I work with at Stark Windows. Benji's
going to be presenting as well talking about this. So
really good presenters, international speakers coming to New Zealand for
this series. So it is technical, very technical, but if

(01:28:05):
you're in that space, could be a really good thing
to be part of. So Building Site Summit, look at
it online and chances I might see you there on
the Friday. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
the number the call great, good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:28:17):
Yeah morning, Hey, hey, I've got a yeah, good, got
a question for you. So I've got to I've got
a his house and land package and I'll tell you
it's in that way anyway, I want to build a
little shed on kind of like the neighbors being what
are the regulations for for that? Like how what did

(01:28:40):
the max I can build?

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
And yes, yeah, of interesting the rules changed so.

Speaker 15 (01:28:48):
Yeah, I know, I know that's why I'm asking. Yeah,
I don't know what it's changed to.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Okay, the guidance you can find the guidance on the
MBI website. But I can tell you because I did
to be fair. Actually slightly get it wrong a couple
of weeks ago. So if it's if it's ten square
meters or less, you can totally the garden shed up
to the boundary. Basically there's no restructure. Now I've got it.

Speaker 15 (01:29:13):
And what about what about high? Wise? Can I go
to five meters high or no?

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
I think it's it's what would be considered reasonable. So
let's say two point two two point four you know, okay,
it's an offense. It's the sort of thing that if
you went down if you've ordered one online or if
you bought one at a hardware store.

Speaker 12 (01:29:34):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
And if it's say it's nine square meters, chance are
it's going to be two meters two point two high.
Roughly it might be two point four. I mean, I'd
feel a bit stinc about putting a two point four
meter high structure right on the boundary next to my neighbors,
given that most boundary fences are one point eight and
the other thing. And this is where this is a
practical concern from my point of view, which is okay.

(01:29:57):
So let's say you do put a ten square meter
garden shed against the on the boundary. Basically, what happens
when you need to, you know, get to the weeds
in between there, or get to the cladding or anything
like that. So effectively, you're you're putting it up against
potentially putting it up against the fence, and then you

(01:30:18):
can never get access to that that wall again, which
doesn't seem sensible to me. So maybe what you do
is you go, Okay, I know I can go to
the boundary, but what I'll do is I'll go three
hundred miles off the boundary. I can sort of squeak
in there and get to it. And the other thing
is ten square meters creates quite a bit of storm water.
So my own personal plea would be be considerate about

(01:30:42):
where that stormwater goes so that it's not something that
that goes. So a small water tank is.

Speaker 15 (01:30:48):
Perfect, right, I've already got an drainage set up perfect
into the lawn.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
So yeah, awesome, Yeah, technically ten square meters can go
on the boundary.

Speaker 15 (01:31:00):
Yeah, all right, all the very best, see what I
can do, all.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Right, take care then, yeah, yeah, it's a practical thing.
Do you really want to put it hard against the
boundary and then never be able to get to that
wall that's adjacent to the boundary again without moving the shed. Basically,
oh eight d eighty the number to call Johnny, Good morning,
Yeah morning.

Speaker 23 (01:31:27):
My question is I've got I was given a coal range,
an old coal range, right, that was ripped out of
my neighbor's house.

Speaker 19 (01:31:36):
And I don't I.

Speaker 23 (01:31:37):
Don't know if you remember the old coal ranges that
were quite you know, that were generally set into the walls.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
Yes, well I know of them, but to be fair,
I'm getting old, but I'm not that old, right.

Speaker 23 (01:31:50):
Right, okay, right, So this one's half the size of
what they used to have back in the day, and
it's got two plates, right.

Speaker 19 (01:32:02):
So I left this thing outside and.

Speaker 23 (01:32:06):
It's got some leaks, so the smoke, because it was
in part, I had to put it back together like
all the doors, you know, I re hung them.

Speaker 11 (01:32:17):
Plates.

Speaker 23 (01:32:19):
The actual top was totally separate, and I plunged that
back on top had a couple of screws that you
tightened up.

Speaker 12 (01:32:29):
But the smoke was still.

Speaker 23 (01:32:30):
Leaking out of some around the edge.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
Yes, and I'm wondering, is there a product that you.

Speaker 23 (01:32:38):
Can use to actually stop, you know, to put in
the gaps. They take a lot Basically I'm looking at
something that takes a lot of heat.

Speaker 12 (01:32:46):
Yes, or will Is there a product that does there
will steal it?

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:32:53):
There is.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
And yet part of me is reluctant to sort of
go into how you might solve the problem because I
also don't want to be part of a situation where
you decide to install this and no, this isott something
goes wrong. I won't put that on you, no, I know,

(01:33:15):
but you know I've got a.

Speaker 19 (01:33:17):
Respont as a product, and I'll have a look for it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
The other thing that I don't know the answer to,
but I'm going to pose the question anyway, is adding
this to your house would that trigger a requirement for
a building consent?

Speaker 19 (01:33:31):
And I don't want to go at this stage.

Speaker 23 (01:33:34):
I don't want to go into that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
I know you don't, but I again, this is my
responsibility to tell you that you may need to investigate this,
right because in the same way that if you were
to install a wood burning fire into your house you
would need a building consent. So effectively, you're installing a
wood burning fire just you're going to use it for

(01:33:55):
cooking and potentially for heating. I'm not saying it's not
a good idea. I'm just saying you need to make
sure that you're doing it correctly, and more importantly, the
most important thing is you're doing it safely. But if
you think about, you know, wood burning fires that have
like an opening door, you'll often find that on the
inside of that door there's a seal which looks a
little bit like a Hessian cord. That might that would

(01:34:18):
be the sort of thing that you might be able
to seal it with. Possibly there's some specialists who still
repair and maintain those old sorts of fireplaces. But you know,
please don't underestimate the potential for disaster of putting a
wood burning fire in place. I know we've had them
for you know, potentially hundreds of years, and people will

(01:34:39):
be going, don't worry about it, it'll be fine, But
you are lighting a fire inside your house. I don't
want to see your house burned down.

Speaker 19 (01:34:47):
I've thanks for that, Peter.

Speaker 23 (01:34:50):
I've got all that make sure that if I was
to install it, basically, I've got to put this thing
together and make sure.

Speaker 19 (01:34:59):
It doesn't leave.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
Yeah, I don't want it.

Speaker 19 (01:35:02):
I don't want to put the smoke through the house, right.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
And how will you flew it? What's the process there.

Speaker 23 (01:35:10):
Well, I've I've got that sorted as well to go
into details.

Speaker 12 (01:35:15):
But I've got that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
Was getting better and awesome.

Speaker 19 (01:35:22):
You know, if I can seal it.

Speaker 23 (01:35:24):
That's my main thing is I don't want smoke leaking.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 19 (01:35:29):
All I want to do is is there a product?

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
I think there is and I would probably go to
you know, like a fireplace installer or somewhere like that
and get some advice from them. All the very best.
You make good luck with that, right. They need to
have a little break now, a little sit down for
a moment. We'll come back after the.

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this morning, so quick. A couple of calls before we're
into the garden with red clim pass. Richard, Good morning,
Yeah high pe here you going good? Thanks Richard?

Speaker 22 (01:37:19):
Yeah, hey, look, my wife and I wanting to replace
the window in our home. The exterior cletting is hearty texts.
I'm just wondering if there's any issues around this, particularly
with water tightness, would plastering be the right way to go?
And if so, how would we know if the plastering
job is done properly?

Speaker 5 (01:37:40):
Do you know whether the hardy text is direct direct
fixed to the framing.

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Yeah, Okay. Is there an existing head flashing that actually
tucks up behind the hardy.

Speaker 22 (01:37:53):
Text I'm really not sure about.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Okay, look in its existing aluminium joinery that you're going
to get replaced. Yes, yeah, okay, Look, I think it's
to some It comes down to the I guess, the
professionalism and the experience of the person who is going
to install the window. If the window is not leaking now,

(01:38:17):
then putting in a new window shouldn't cause any leaks either,
And chances are the way in which it's been sealed
is simply that the top of the extrusion tucks underneath
the flashing. It's pressed hard back against the building and
a bead of sealant around it, and the lower extrusion
covers the cladding enough to mean that it doesn't leak there.

(01:38:40):
I'd probably add some building wrap around the opening when
you've taken the old existing window out, and just making
sure that that head flashing is still going to work. Okay,
but generally it shouldn't be a problem. It also offers
up you know, there's probably opportunities to look at you PVC.
For example, if you wanted to go down that path
as well.

Speaker 22 (01:39:02):
Great, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Okay, all the best bother thing, Barry Greetings.

Speaker 12 (01:39:09):
Yeah, greetings, Peter, how are you.

Speaker 23 (01:39:11):
I'm just wondering.

Speaker 12 (01:39:12):
I've got some white stuff appeared on the outside of
my bricks, yes, in the house, and I'm just wondering
how do I get.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
Rid of it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
It's efflorescence, which is kind of the salt that's often
in masonry products being drawn to the surface with moisture.
There are some proprietary cleaners, so if you just search
for efflorescence cleaner or remover, there'll be It's often an
acidic type product, so Spirit of Salts, which is hydrochloric acid,

(01:39:40):
is one of the ones that's used. Every time I
mention it, someone else will say, don't use that. There's
some softer products. But if you just search for efferescence
remover or cleaner, you'll find some stuff there and just
apply it as per the instruction and that'll knock it off.

Speaker 12 (01:39:54):
Okay, So that it would just be from a hardware
shop or something anywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
Yep, you'll find them around. Just just apply a little bit,
test it and then go from there.

Speaker 12 (01:40:03):
Thank you very much all of this.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
Okay, take care this Uh yeah, efforescence is what it's called.
Your talk said, be last Cora of the morning. Let
me see how I'm just going to get this. Paul, Greetings,
good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:40:19):
I was just wondering in your experience, can you successfully
treat aura in external weather boards by injecting the material
into the flight holes or do you end up replacing
the boards.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
I mean, that's a great question for d who's coming
along next. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm sure he
will then go on to say, now is not the
time of year to do it. So typically bora are
on the wing, he's lying everywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
Oh really, Yeah, I came spraying, spraying them as they
come out, and I've got about one hundred dead ones,
black spots of these dead bora. But I know that
that's not going to stop the ones that are inside
or the they fly back in.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yes, so typically it's September October. But there's no reason
that you wouldn't try it now. If they're obviously there,
you'd try it. Look, I think at a certain point,
like you could, you could prevent further infestation by treating it.
If the board's already quite decayed because of borer. Then

(01:41:32):
stopping the borer the damage has been done, in which
case you're replacing those boards, but certainly applying a treatment
to it will will help control that.

Speaker 24 (01:41:41):
Peter. If they're coming out now, you can spread them. Okay,
you go, yeah, yeah, of course I am.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
You know, you know what I do.

Speaker 24 (01:41:48):
I just immediately get into just now. But if there
is stuff blowing out you, I would suggest you spread
now if that's the case. But it's very unusual. It's're
usually in springtime, right, you know oco November.

Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
That's flying, that's flying everywhere, like little flying ads, little
buggers of.

Speaker 24 (01:42:03):
Flying and started thing. Hang on, that might be totally
different thing.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Are we mixing up our insects? Yes, it might not
be borer. You might have borer, but what you're seeing
right now isn't borer.

Speaker 24 (01:42:16):
Now, these might be critics that take that take care
of the borer's holes and say, oh I can live
in here.

Speaker 15 (01:42:23):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:27):
It's a perfect segue between the two parts of the show.
There you go, so yeah, you can't. Like in terms
of treating the exterior of a house for bora you
would go through and do would you say, like a
proreeth and spray everywhere across the exterior rather than trying
to do individual.

Speaker 7 (01:42:50):
Injectable stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:42:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:42:52):
Well, if you can get some of that stuff, I
would go. I would go to Safe Works and get
some of that stuff over the top. And what I
would do then is because it's now, it's getting you know,
it's summer as well summer, what you may do is
you might want to then so you don't get too
much sunlight on where you spray, which means that your
material will last longer when they come out.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
Great, okay, I'll give that again.

Speaker 24 (01:43:17):
Yeah, good eye.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Also Safe Works. With the next, off you go all
all the very busy you Paul, Thank you very much. Now,
no surprises, but roots next will take a break and
we'll get into the garden with ro It in just
a moment.

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