February 28, 2026 • 19 mins
On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for March 1 2026, Ruud discusses what to do if you spilt decking products on your lawn, which product to use to get rid of mould, and what critters could be responsible for eggs on your swan plants?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News talks'd.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be and test that was there quite often.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey, just talking about something else we've already talked about.
I left it last week, but I have to tell
people in the roda Ua area that our falconry place
is of course going to be on this on the
seventh this month, Saturday, between nine and two. Wingspan. Get
your tickets early donated with wingspand whatever you need to do.
(00:36):
But it's going to be great. Wingspan is a whole
day there and all the animals will be there, all
the people that fly. It's something you cannot miss. Just
thought that mate mention.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It absolutely no and look it's you know, even if
you're in Auckland, it's not a bad drive. You know,
it's worth going up.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And I totally agree, Yeah for sure. Yeah no, I
stayed there quite a bit, so.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Ridio, let's get amongst it. If you've got a question
for it. It is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Happy
to take dicks as well. Diane, Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Good mornings, Hi, welcome to our wonderful summer. The od
T is so informed us. We had five warm days
this summer, so in your experience in one of them
this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Actually, to be quite honest, I heard Peter saying that
it was already been drizzling in Auckland at the moment.
It's still a bit sunny in christ He.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Send it down our way, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, but it's it's it's got You know what's going
to happen, don't you?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
You will get it. It's from the south. You're going
to get it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I know it's from the south.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
It's coming from the south. Here's Disney. Not a strong one,
but it's a weird one. We did a wonderful job
of pouring ditting oil over it, less than a meter
of our front lawn. O. What do we need to
do to fix the soil before we rea?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So so it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Prevented damage? What do you do? It's nasty, isn't it.
It suffocates the soil and things like that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I wondered about that and I find down and the
soil would it have gone?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I don't know, It depends, It depends on exactly. That's
I was just what's my next question? How far did
you did you mess it up? But what you could
do is if because the grass is going down the gurglar,
isn't it so?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's lovely brown? Yeah, yeah, instant, instant.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
What may be an idea is to get and it's
only a square meter.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That listener screen measure.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, dig it up, dig it up to about twenty
centimeters and and get some new Yeah. No, honestly, get
rid of it, because it's much quicker to do it
that way. Then get some new material over the top
from from elsewhere, and you can you can buy it
as soil literally, and then re resor it from now
on as soon as you can. I honestly, it's because
(03:10):
it's a pain in the bum when it goes all
the way there and you keep on sewing and it
keeps on going. Nap. Now, excessive dirt and oil contamination's
never good. Hot soapy water might help, but oh you
can try it with hot soapy water. But I mean,
that's all I would say. After that, you'll probably find no,
I'll dig up only a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Okay, all right, that's great. Thanks for appreciate that, and good.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Luck with that. Eh.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, it's a bit of digging, and then what to
do with it?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Square meter?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It really need to take it to your local recycling,
you know, your local resource recovery or tip or whatever
and dump it. Wouldn't You can't use it anywhere in
the garden.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, that's right, that's right. It will of course in time.
Sure you've got enough space, and it rains, and you
get winter and you're at summer, and you'll probably find
it will go way at some stage. But it takes
a while, you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yikes. Gwinn A very good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Oh, good morning. Some time ago you talked about using whitn'
forget on lawns for moths or something I have an
issue with. Obviously now it's all round off and you
talked about using a half treatment of it. But the
waton forget comes in a in a container that you're
attached to your hose. So what sort of ratio? How
(04:34):
do you work that out?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Are you talking about the species wed and forget the
stuff use I used to get moss mold and guns
away from Okay, that's the one. And where is that
moss molden gun? Is it on your house?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
No, on the lawn. But I seem to recall and
correct me if I'm wrong that you talked about using
it you could do it spray on your lawn, but
they're a half half ratio yep.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, And and them and then wait and forget you
have is that within within them nozzles system.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
With the nozzle. Yeah, I don't think you can get
it without a nozzle.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think you can because it comes from Yeah, the
actual weather. Forget comes in all sorts of things. Okay.
What I would do is, yes, I would get if
you really want to get rid of that sort of stuff,
do it half and half with water. So what I
would do is and and the reason I'm doing that
is because you don't really want to uh stuff your lawn,
(05:34):
you know what I mean. I don't want to do that, no, exactly.
So what I would do is do it that half
half speeders I say, half numbers in and watering can
and do it by hand.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Oh, I say, right, So you're literally using I wasn't
sure because it comes out the spray bottle. You know
that that you were using half of what came out
the spray, the actual concentrate. It's half and half.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Right exactly. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Try it. Try it first, a little bit of patch
somewhere you know one particular place and if everything works
nicely that way, you can do the rest as well.
You know, it's always trying things on the under side
of the carpet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, I'll try a little spot on it. Sign. Okay,
thank you so much for that. Thank you great now always.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And if you get into that half half size or
that half strength, you'll find that it'll work. If it
works like that, hey, you go easy.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, and chine a very good morning to you.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Good morning. My strong plants have got little orange eggs
on them in clusters. Are you reverb on the finger
and thumb. I stayed my finger and thumb quite orange,
and I'm wondering what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know because the white eggs I don't ones
of the butterfly, yes, the you know exactly what I mean, though,
don't Yeah, yeah, no, I don't know what they would be.
Have you seen any other creatures on your swan plant
that you think? I wonder what it is?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
No? No, last year, the eggs were quite low down
on them, but that's there on the tips of the branches.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I had a risk of straying off the reservation and
going into a place that I shouldn't be having had
swan plants, I wonder. And the things that I squish
and they go yellow are the little aphids.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, that's right. That's those are the orange orange yellow aphids.
That's right. And they're usually at the top stio Peter,
you're you're you should do this show, you.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Know, no, no, no, no, I'm going back to my
side of the fence.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know, this is really this is exactly what
it is. That was one of them. The other ones
would have been things like insects or what do you
call them, beetles that lay their eggs there. But I
reckon you're right, it is that. That's what it is,
and they are they are, and that you can squash
those if you like those eggs.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Yeah, that've got a little bit. Let's stop in the
middle of them.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, could do yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, but that's over anything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Just that the eggs. It's still once they I am hatching,
they come out as a fits. That's right. Ever, go yeah, okay,
and you do that digitally.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Yes, some finger and some you got it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Well done, John, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Welcome, Thanks you have a great day, and lee are
very good morning.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
To you.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Oh, good morning, boys. Mine's more of a bad thing.
I'm trying. I'm not on the wrong program, but oh,
yes you are. During the recent storms, which were horrible,
I fell in love. And there reason I'm saying that
I live on the Kapiti coast. And it was the
(09:18):
Monday or the Tuesday after the storms. We'd had terrific winds,
and I was saying goodbye to my weak granddaughter and
it was quite a nice day, very suburban concrete paths
up to the garage door, and I looked down and
there was this enormous dragonfly. Was so beautiful. I didn't
think it was real. And we all stood, with my
(09:39):
daughter and granddaughter, and I would just stood, what's that?
And in our defense, we'd lived on a property with
a pond and a jetty, and we've often sat there
and admired the you know, the typical small, little fliffing dragonflies,
and here was this beast and he was hovering like
a helicopter like this. We researched it, and I think
(10:02):
you've probably got a proper name for it. A bush dragonfly.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yes, the giant you got it. You're a petal like
KOVI We call it you and I, as entomologists call this,
You're a petal like Kovia. That is the letter.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
That was my first guest when I looked at it.
But I think we were just so lucky to see it.
I feel that the poor thing has probably been blown
off course or blown to our place, because there's no
I do live about five hundred meters from a river,
but a very flowing river. And you know, I read
what it liked and that it was more of a
(10:38):
night night owl than anything, and not necessarily. I just
can't believe I'm really sor I'm sixty eight. I wouldn't
say that. And I've loved around. I never seen one
in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh wow, now that's like, you're lucky. That's good because
this is this because you're in the North Island. It's
the North Island dragonfly gandre. This is a South Island
variety as well, which looks quite similar, to be quite honest.
And they go they go up quite high altitudes as
well in the mountains, which oh yeah, they love it.
But look, they are related to watery areas because their
(11:14):
babies will live usually on the edge of water, if
you like, of a watery trajectory. If you like, and
they make holes into the soil there where they live.
So that all makes total sense.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I just said, we were so so lucky. And yes,
I said, so I fell in love. I fell in
love after the storm, so that I.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Love the way you described that. That's exactly what it's about.
The giant dragonfly europetal like Coovia absolutely blown off course, No,
it would be next to your river. These things, these
things are amazing flyers, even in that heavy, heavy, heavy
wind like a helicopter.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
You know, you hear and hovering. It was amazing. I
just thoughtn't that because you'd be placed.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh, I love thank you, I love them. And yet
you're absolutely right, and they are amazing fliers and amazing creatures.
You can catch them with a net, which is what
I do sometimes.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Do you, Oh yes, just gobsmack watching because I'll to
be honest, I don't even know they existed because it
was so big.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, but imagine working with a whole lot of kids
and teachers in the school and you have a net
with you and you catch one and then you hold
it very gently at the thorax, at the chest if
you like, and you don't do it any damage and
they look at you and they go like, now what
And then you gently open your hands and it sits
there and thinks not gone, you know, and it goes quick.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
I think the best thing was that my little grand
daughter was there and she was only five and she
got preceated eyes as big as sauces. So that was lovely. Well,
thank you very much for just reassuring me that we
were right on the right track.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Lee loved the story. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, bye little story, Thank you, Lee. Uh could take
through it? Do Praying mentis eat monarch caterpillars. I've been
finding them on and under the nets over the swan
plants from Chris.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Monarch caterpillars.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They might do, yes, praying mentis, yes, they might do.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
There'd be a meal and a half for praying menss,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, But praying men can eat a heck of a lot.
I caught a native one last night, and boy, I
put a fly in it, and that fly was gone
in about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And it was great, fabulous. Right, we're gonna take a
short break. We'll talk to Bonnie straight after the break.
Texts coming. Praying mentus has sucked the living daylights out
(13:58):
of the monarch caterpillars from Jill. So yes, they'll obviously
snack on those as well.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, they will. They have no worries about what they
are as selective as a vacuum cleaner omnivores.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, Bonnie, good morning.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
How are you? We're pretty good and I'm staking on
the arf of Peter, who's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Good to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Very good.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
Yes, yes, rude. I have a situation here where my
daughter's workshop seems to have New Zealand's supply of ants
and it's not conducive to doing resin work. So how
do we get rid of these damn ants in her workshop?
(14:44):
It's us It was a single garage. It is a
single garage that she's converted into a workshop, and it's
a wooden structure.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Farm, rural area.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
And they just keep on coming.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And is there anything that you'd think they really like
to eat?
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Don't know?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
They just in the well. I thought maybe we should
just try bo X.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We got this bo X thing I got, I've got
a really I've always got this. I've got this ancient
piece of paper here. This is from nineteen eighty three,
I think from mess Ye, No, when I was working
for the Ministry of Agriculture that's now called MPI, and
we had this wonderful material that we made from We
(15:36):
made it ourselves from box and boric acid with some
honey or sugar or and water and all that sort
of stuff. But you can also, to be quite honest,
you can do that. But you can also buy all
sorts of en baits if you like, from what you get,
for instance, called ants in your pants, that sort of stuff.
But the most important thing is that whatever you use
(15:58):
in terms of baits, whether you make it yourself or
buy it, you have to remember that ants have got
a territory. That means that they have maybe a tw
twenty meters square or ten meters square sometimes five meters
square territory. So that if you put baits down, you
have to put many baits down in various different distances
from each other, so that the others get something to
(16:19):
eat as well, you know what I mean. So if
you've got all these different colonies, they all want their
own spot where they where they feed and where they
get these particular materials from you, all these baits, but
you'll have to have them separated from each other.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Yeah, And is there anything to put around the perimeter
on the outside, you know, like or just put the
baits all separate more around.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
The edge the baits. What you do with the baits
is basically you get the ants themselves to take the
bait back to the nest and they feed it to
the queen. The queen dies, no more young ones down, more.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Eggs, boom, yep, yep, do the go, wait and forget.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Ever got, Well, you can try to wait and forget.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Said.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
There's lots of stuff. You know, it's really it's really
all over the show. So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, no,
I know they can be so ants in your pants
as they call it. I always like that that particular word.
But anyway, there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Good luck with that, by take care and Ian, good morning,
morning morning.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I'm rude.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I'm in Kiban and last year we had a heap
of caterpillars, but this year that the monks are laying
the eggs, but there's no caterpillars. And our friends are
saying the same.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Oh, I don't see the biggest thing that I hear
from Jackie Knight, who's the person that runs the Monarch
Butterfly Trust, it's now called the Moths and Butterfly Trust
of New Zealand. We hear from a lot of different
areas in New Zealand that the monarchs are not doing
too well, which is quite quite you know, unusual. We
normally have them. I've seen them at home, the old one.
(18:06):
It's not as bad as good as last year. I
totally agree whether or not the eggs that you find
on the swamp plants are actually the eggs of the
monarch butterfly. Are they the white ones or are they
the yellow ones we earlier discussed.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I'm not too sure the wife's department. But the monarchs
are going laying and there's heaps of what's that little
bug thing that's on the plants. The plants are really
healthy and.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Heaps of plant you've got you may have got a
lot of aphis on that plant before. Yeah, okay, I
would get rid of the aphids by finger control, you know, squashing.
Yeah yeah, and that would that would actually give the
the caterpillars of the of the monarchs a much better
place to eat and easier to eat. That's number one.
(19:00):
But otherwise, good luck with that. Yeah, you're lucky very
much for that made But.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's quite an entertaining sort of evening. Isn't it just
wandering about the swan plants protecting caterpillars. Yeah, it's right,
it's absolutely as always, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, it's good fun. Do it again? Eight?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Is it now?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Just to wind you up before you go? Is today
the first of March? The beginning of autumn?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know, you know, bigger than there. Get out of here, have.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
A great week.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We'll talk later. It's s low hanging fruit. It's just
it's too good, too good, too many opportunities there. Have
a fantastic week. It is the first of March, and
I'll be back next Sunday. Look forward to it. Take care.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be and test that was there quite often.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey, just talking about something else we've already talked about.
I left it last week, but I have to tell
people in the roda Ua area that our falconry place
is of course going to be on this on the
seventh this month, Saturday, between nine and two. Wingspan. Get
your tickets early donated with wingspand whatever you need to do.
(00:36):
But it's going to be great. Wingspan is a whole
day there and all the animals will be there, all
the people that fly. It's something you cannot miss. Just
thought that mate mention.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It absolutely no and look it's you know, even if
you're in Auckland, it's not a bad drive. You know,
it's worth going up.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And I totally agree, Yeah for sure. Yeah no, I
stayed there quite a bit, so.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Ridio, let's get amongst it. If you've got a question
for it. It is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Happy
to take dicks as well. Diane, Good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Good mornings, Hi, welcome to our wonderful summer. The od
T is so informed us. We had five warm days
this summer, so in your experience in one of them
this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Actually, to be quite honest, I heard Peter saying that
it was already been drizzling in Auckland at the moment.
It's still a bit sunny in christ He.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Send it down our way, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, but it's it's it's got You know what's going
to happen, don't you?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
You will get it. It's from the south. You're going
to get it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I know it's from the south.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
It's coming from the south. Here's Disney. Not a strong one,
but it's a weird one. We did a wonderful job
of pouring ditting oil over it, less than a meter
of our front lawn. O. What do we need to
do to fix the soil before we rea?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So so it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Prevented damage? What do you do? It's nasty, isn't it.
It suffocates the soil and things like that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I wondered about that and I find down and the
soil would it have gone?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I don't know, It depends, It depends on exactly. That's
I was just what's my next question? How far did
you did you mess it up? But what you could
do is if because the grass is going down the gurglar,
isn't it so?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's lovely brown? Yeah, yeah, instant, instant.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
What may be an idea is to get and it's
only a square meter.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That listener screen measure.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, dig it up, dig it up to about twenty
centimeters and and get some new Yeah. No, honestly, get
rid of it, because it's much quicker to do it
that way. Then get some new material over the top
from from elsewhere, and you can you can buy it
as soil literally, and then re resor it from now
on as soon as you can. I honestly, it's because
(03:10):
it's a pain in the bum when it goes all
the way there and you keep on sewing and it
keeps on going. Nap. Now, excessive dirt and oil contamination's
never good. Hot soapy water might help, but oh you
can try it with hot soapy water. But I mean,
that's all I would say. After that, you'll probably find no,
I'll dig up only a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Okay, all right, that's great. Thanks for appreciate that, and good.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Luck with that. Eh.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, it's a bit of digging, and then what to
do with it?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Square meter?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It really need to take it to your local recycling,
you know, your local resource recovery or tip or whatever
and dump it. Wouldn't You can't use it anywhere in
the garden.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, that's right, that's right. It will of course in time.
Sure you've got enough space, and it rains, and you
get winter and you're at summer, and you'll probably find
it will go way at some stage. But it takes
a while, you're right.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yikes. Gwinn A very good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Oh, good morning. Some time ago you talked about using whitn'
forget on lawns for moths or something I have an
issue with. Obviously now it's all round off and you
talked about using a half treatment of it. But the
waton forget comes in a in a container that you're
attached to your hose. So what sort of ratio? How
(04:34):
do you work that out?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Are you talking about the species wed and forget the
stuff use I used to get moss mold and guns
away from Okay, that's the one. And where is that
moss molden gun? Is it on your house?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
No, on the lawn. But I seem to recall and
correct me if I'm wrong that you talked about using
it you could do it spray on your lawn, but
they're a half half ratio yep.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay, And and them and then wait and forget you
have is that within within them nozzles system.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
With the nozzle. Yeah, I don't think you can get
it without a nozzle.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think you can because it comes from Yeah, the
actual weather. Forget comes in all sorts of things. Okay.
What I would do is, yes, I would get if
you really want to get rid of that sort of stuff,
do it half and half with water. So what I
would do is and and the reason I'm doing that
is because you don't really want to uh stuff your lawn,
(05:34):
you know what I mean. I don't want to do that, no, exactly.
So what I would do is do it that half
half speeders I say, half numbers in and watering can
and do it by hand.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Oh, I say, right, So you're literally using I wasn't
sure because it comes out the spray bottle. You know
that that you were using half of what came out
the spray, the actual concentrate. It's half and half.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Right exactly. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Try it. Try it first, a little bit of patch
somewhere you know one particular place and if everything works
nicely that way, you can do the rest as well.
You know, it's always trying things on the under side
of the carpet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, I'll try a little spot on it. Sign. Okay,
thank you so much for that. Thank you great now always.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And if you get into that half half size or
that half strength, you'll find that it'll work. If it
works like that, hey, you go easy.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, and chine a very good morning to you.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Good morning. My strong plants have got little orange eggs
on them in clusters. Are you reverb on the finger
and thumb. I stayed my finger and thumb quite orange,
and I'm wondering what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know because the white eggs I don't ones
of the butterfly, yes, the you know exactly what I mean, though,
don't Yeah, yeah, no, I don't know what they would be.
Have you seen any other creatures on your swan plant
that you think? I wonder what it is?
Speaker 7 (07:23):
No? No, last year, the eggs were quite low down
on them, but that's there on the tips of the branches.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I had a risk of straying off the reservation and
going into a place that I shouldn't be having had
swan plants, I wonder. And the things that I squish
and they go yellow are the little aphids.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, that's right. That's those are the orange orange yellow aphids.
That's right. And they're usually at the top stio Peter,
you're you're you should do this show, you.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Know, no, no, no, no, I'm going back to my
side of the fence.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know, this is really this is exactly what
it is. That was one of them. The other ones
would have been things like insects or what do you
call them, beetles that lay their eggs there. But I
reckon you're right, it is that. That's what it is,
and they are they are, and that you can squash
those if you like those eggs.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Yeah, that've got a little bit. Let's stop in the
middle of them.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, could do yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, but that's over anything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Just that the eggs. It's still once they I am hatching,
they come out as a fits. That's right. Ever, go yeah, okay,
and you do that digitally.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Yes, some finger and some you got it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Well done, John, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Welcome, Thanks you have a great day, and lee are
very good morning.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
To you.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Oh, good morning, boys. Mine's more of a bad thing.
I'm trying. I'm not on the wrong program, but oh,
yes you are. During the recent storms, which were horrible,
I fell in love. And there reason I'm saying that
I live on the Kapiti coast. And it was the
(09:18):
Monday or the Tuesday after the storms. We'd had terrific winds,
and I was saying goodbye to my weak granddaughter and
it was quite a nice day, very suburban concrete paths
up to the garage door, and I looked down and
there was this enormous dragonfly. Was so beautiful. I didn't
think it was real. And we all stood, with my
(09:39):
daughter and granddaughter, and I would just stood, what's that?
And in our defense, we'd lived on a property with
a pond and a jetty, and we've often sat there
and admired the you know, the typical small, little fliffing dragonflies,
and here was this beast and he was hovering like
a helicopter like this. We researched it, and I think
(10:02):
you've probably got a proper name for it. A bush dragonfly.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yes, the giant you got it. You're a petal like
KOVI We call it you and I, as entomologists call this,
You're a petal like Kovia. That is the letter.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
That was my first guest when I looked at it.
But I think we were just so lucky to see it.
I feel that the poor thing has probably been blown
off course or blown to our place, because there's no
I do live about five hundred meters from a river,
but a very flowing river. And you know, I read
what it liked and that it was more of a
(10:38):
night night owl than anything, and not necessarily. I just
can't believe I'm really sor I'm sixty eight. I wouldn't
say that. And I've loved around. I never seen one
in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh wow, now that's like, you're lucky. That's good because
this is this because you're in the North Island. It's
the North Island dragonfly gandre. This is a South Island
variety as well, which looks quite similar, to be quite honest.
And they go they go up quite high altitudes as
well in the mountains, which oh yeah, they love it.
But look, they are related to watery areas because their
(11:14):
babies will live usually on the edge of water, if
you like, of a watery trajectory. If you like, and
they make holes into the soil there where they live.
So that all makes total sense.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I just said, we were so so lucky. And yes,
I said, so I fell in love. I fell in
love after the storm, so that I.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Love the way you described that. That's exactly what it's about.
The giant dragonfly europetal like Coovia absolutely blown off course, No,
it would be next to your river. These things, these
things are amazing flyers, even in that heavy, heavy, heavy
wind like a helicopter.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
You know, you hear and hovering. It was amazing. I
just thoughtn't that because you'd be placed.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh, I love thank you, I love them. And yet
you're absolutely right, and they are amazing fliers and amazing creatures.
You can catch them with a net, which is what
I do sometimes.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Do you, Oh yes, just gobsmack watching because I'll to
be honest, I don't even know they existed because it
was so big.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, but imagine working with a whole lot of kids
and teachers in the school and you have a net
with you and you catch one and then you hold
it very gently at the thorax, at the chest if
you like, and you don't do it any damage and
they look at you and they go like, now what
And then you gently open your hands and it sits
there and thinks not gone, you know, and it goes quick.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
I think the best thing was that my little grand
daughter was there and she was only five and she
got preceated eyes as big as sauces. So that was lovely. Well,
thank you very much for just reassuring me that we
were right on the right track.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Lee loved the story. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, bye little story, Thank you, Lee. Uh could take
through it? Do Praying mentis eat monarch caterpillars. I've been
finding them on and under the nets over the swan
plants from Chris.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Monarch caterpillars.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They might do, yes, praying mentis, yes, they might do.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
There'd be a meal and a half for praying menss,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, But praying men can eat a heck of a lot.
I caught a native one last night, and boy, I
put a fly in it, and that fly was gone
in about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And it was great, fabulous. Right, we're gonna take a
short break. We'll talk to Bonnie straight after the break.
Texts coming. Praying mentus has sucked the living daylights out
(13:58):
of the monarch caterpillars from Jill. So yes, they'll obviously
snack on those as well.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, they will. They have no worries about what they
are as selective as a vacuum cleaner omnivores.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, Bonnie, good morning.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
How are you? We're pretty good and I'm staking on
the arf of Peter, who's pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Good to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Very good.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
Yes, yes, rude. I have a situation here where my
daughter's workshop seems to have New Zealand's supply of ants
and it's not conducive to doing resin work. So how
do we get rid of these damn ants in her workshop?
(14:44):
It's us It was a single garage. It is a
single garage that she's converted into a workshop, and it's
a wooden structure.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Farm, rural area.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
And they just keep on coming.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And is there anything that you'd think they really like
to eat?
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Don't know?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
They just in the well. I thought maybe we should
just try bo X.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We got this bo X thing I got, I've got
a really I've always got this. I've got this ancient
piece of paper here. This is from nineteen eighty three,
I think from mess Ye, No, when I was working
for the Ministry of Agriculture that's now called MPI, and
we had this wonderful material that we made from We
(15:36):
made it ourselves from box and boric acid with some
honey or sugar or and water and all that sort
of stuff. But you can also, to be quite honest,
you can do that. But you can also buy all
sorts of en baits if you like, from what you get,
for instance, called ants in your pants, that sort of stuff.
But the most important thing is that whatever you use
(15:58):
in terms of baits, whether you make it yourself or
buy it, you have to remember that ants have got
a territory. That means that they have maybe a tw
twenty meters square or ten meters square sometimes five meters
square territory. So that if you put baits down, you
have to put many baits down in various different distances
from each other, so that the others get something to
(16:19):
eat as well, you know what I mean. So if
you've got all these different colonies, they all want their
own spot where they where they feed and where they
get these particular materials from you, all these baits, but
you'll have to have them separated from each other.
Speaker 9 (16:38):
Yeah, And is there anything to put around the perimeter
on the outside, you know, like or just put the
baits all separate more around.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
The edge the baits. What you do with the baits
is basically you get the ants themselves to take the
bait back to the nest and they feed it to
the queen. The queen dies, no more young ones down, more.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Eggs, boom, yep, yep, do the go, wait and forget.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Ever got, Well, you can try to wait and forget.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Said.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
There's lots of stuff. You know, it's really it's really
all over the show. So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, no,
I know they can be so ants in your pants
as they call it. I always like that that particular word.
But anyway, there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Good luck with that, by take care and Ian, good morning,
morning morning.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I'm rude.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I'm in Kiban and last year we had a heap
of caterpillars, but this year that the monks are laying
the eggs, but there's no caterpillars. And our friends are
saying the same.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Oh, I don't see the biggest thing that I hear
from Jackie Knight, who's the person that runs the Monarch
Butterfly Trust, it's now called the Moths and Butterfly Trust
of New Zealand. We hear from a lot of different
areas in New Zealand that the monarchs are not doing
too well, which is quite quite you know, unusual. We
normally have them. I've seen them at home, the old one.
(18:06):
It's not as bad as good as last year. I
totally agree whether or not the eggs that you find
on the swamp plants are actually the eggs of the
monarch butterfly. Are they the white ones or are they
the yellow ones we earlier discussed.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I'm not too sure the wife's department. But the monarchs
are going laying and there's heaps of what's that little
bug thing that's on the plants. The plants are really
healthy and.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Heaps of plant you've got you may have got a
lot of aphis on that plant before. Yeah, okay, I
would get rid of the aphids by finger control, you know, squashing.
Yeah yeah, and that would that would actually give the
the caterpillars of the of the monarchs a much better
place to eat and easier to eat. That's number one.
(19:00):
But otherwise, good luck with that. Yeah, you're lucky very
much for that made But.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's quite an entertaining sort of evening. Isn't it just
wandering about the swan plants protecting caterpillars. Yeah, it's right,
it's absolutely as always, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, it's good fun. Do it again? Eight?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Is it now?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Just to wind you up before you go? Is today
the first of March? The beginning of autumn?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know, you know, bigger than there. Get out of here, have.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
A great week.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We'll talk later. It's s low hanging fruit. It's just
it's too good, too good, too many opportunities there. Have
a fantastic week. It is the first of March, and
I'll be back next Sunday. Look forward to it. Take care.
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