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June 27, 2026 19 mins

On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for June 28 2026, Ruud talks about why small snails are invading your garden, what to do when your orange tree isn't flowering as it should, and how to handle brown leaves on your berry bushes.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Let's get into the garden. And in my introduction, I say,
you're you are of course that timber expert given were
one of your qualifications is a civiculturalist.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
That's actually all I studied. I'm not I'm not even
a bug man. I'm not kidding you. I just I
love this sort of stuff. You know, if you say
the kids, what is it that you want to do
later in life? Yeah, their eyes go open. They and
they can do it, you know what I mean? Absolutely
take by the way five to one. That's so sad,

(00:44):
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, look at it does mean New Zealand's out of
the tournament, you know, with no hope of qualifying whatsoever.
And yeah it look it was a bit of a
disappointing game. I've got some you know, no surprise, I've
got some Belgian friends, and so I texted them and said, oh,
well look you know in the congratulations and also they

(01:05):
go through top of the group. Natalan go through top
of the group, which is great because it means we
have to play Morocco on Tuesday, as opposed to playing Brazil,
which is a whole different process. But I've booked it
out in my calendar. It won't be going anywhere on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Have we ever made the number one thing in the.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Three times to the World Cup Final? Yeah, seventy four,
seventy eight, nineteen ninety I think was against Spain. No,
no later, Yeah, twenty seven, there you go, twenty ten. Sorry,
that's right, they got to the final.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, it's been closed three times.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
As is often repeated, the best team in the world
never to have won the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, I know, and we all know that. I used
to watch that from where I was really young.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, yeah, righty oh, hey, I'll tell you what. And
if you've got a moment and you want to look
at some wonderful timber, have a look at the It's
a website called Timber Unlimited and it's the finalists of
the New Zealand Timber Awards, basically Timber Design Awards. I
went along to the dinner the other night and had

(02:19):
a look at some of the Some of them are
in christ Church, actually a couple of a number of
christ Church buildings. We're in these categories where they're using timber,
like for multi story buildings, timber for bridges, that sort
of thing, and just creative and interesting uses of timber.
It's fantastic. It was great listening to the link.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
We're looking at a bit of timber, you know, honestly,
you know what I mean. But timber unlimited is that
where I look.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
At to the right. Let's get amongst it. People want
to talk to you about all sorts of things in
the wonderful world that is our gardens. And Stephen, good
morning to you.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Hello, good morning, Rude.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
We're good? Thank you help you.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
I've grew a good bunch of strawberries last year, and
the second year the plants are looking very healthy. I
bought some more strawberry plants to increase the plot, and
some of the leaves on them, on the new strawberries
are getting brown patches on them. And I'm wondering if
I could just use an ordinary sort of copper salt

(03:28):
of sprayers or something a bit better.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Funger side, Yeah, you got a fungal disease type thing,
you know what I mean, whatever, whatever you can get.
But look, honestly, if it's the you know, the are
these the small brown patches with which are surrounded by
a darker brown ring if you like.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
No, they're not. They sort of seemed to be a
tobacco brown patch which has now sort of got up
to about half the area of each leaf, not on
every leaf, but it's spreading.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, could be there could be from opsis formopsis blade
and things like that. But if you're talking about environmental
off you know, why not indeed use your copper and
yourself as a as a thing to do that. So
have some local garden centers that have all these wonderful.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Fuels, but I just wanted to do something a bit
more effective.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Ah, well, you haven't got any flowers, you haven't got
anything else, so you could even use any in what
do you call it, fungal material that you like really
to be quite.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Honest, Okay, yeah, certainly there's a few flowers beginning to emerge,
but certainly no fruits.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
It gosh, no, where are you? Where are you? Because
in crosts it's like nobody home.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm an Iraqi in Auckland and I picked my first
strawberry last week and it was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I've lost I've lost that whole idea where we lived
in Lango and places like that. Oh my gosh, oh
well never mind, yeah, no, honestly, I have a go.
But if that's the case, if you've got plants that
are putting putting fruit on, do something with some organic
material ego copy.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
It right, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Good well, go well you take care of then, and Brian,
A very good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Good morning? I'm fine, pens. I've got an orange tree
that's got beautiful oranges all over it, and each of
the oranges has got a little small patch as smaller
than new fingernail, that's a slightly lighter color, and underneath

(05:39):
there is a grave mark, very healthy looking one.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was just going to say, here we go.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah it is. So the tree is covered in oranges.
They're beautiful oranges when they're not when they haven't got
moths on them. So what's next do I should I
just take all of the oranges off the tree and
get rid of them so that they're off the section

(06:06):
or what what's the next step to try and overcomes
for the next season.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I've lost Ah, you may have, yeah, especially if they've
gone down, if you like, if you go if they've
really gone inside.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
There's no hole in the skin. It's just a slight,
slight discoloration on the surface, as I say, that side
of the female. And when you when you slice the
skin and pull that up, there's there's a fat little
worm sitting inside there. You've seen that can even see

(06:43):
where they didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
No, that's right, because they go in when they're really,
really small, aren't they. And the problem is that you
have very little if you like, grab to them because
they're inside, and you you can't really do anything, not
even with with with insecticides that are going sort of

(07:04):
on the edges.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know what I mean, Whether I've got to get
rid of them.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, you don't have to get rid of them all.
What I would do is if you get a very
fine netting when it starts, so when you start this
whole this whole thing started probably in summer and it's
still carrying on. So what I would do, and this
is what I heard from a lot of people up north,
is to have very fine netting over your plants. How
big are your trees?

Speaker 6 (07:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
No, no, not not huge, but no, no.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, fine netting, a fine netting does not allow those
particular creatures to come onto your plant and lay their eggs.
That's basically what it's about.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Right, And at which stage do they lay the eggs?
I mean when now I got but I don't want
the bags obviously to go anywhere now or develop into anything,
so I sort of that's why I wonder whether I've
got to get rid of all of the fruit, because
each of them has a couple of healthy little bugs
in them too. If he did not far away and

(08:09):
I put the cut the oranges in half and put
them up there, and the web sites.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Love them, so I'm sure they do. That's right, But
but some from them, you got it. But the prevention
of doing it with these really fine nettings is the
way to stop them getting anywhere in you'll find that
you get it in your local garden center, no problem
at all. And if you do want to use some insecticides,

(08:36):
you can use anything you like, but make sure that
you do it without starting to eat those things afterwards,
and that is probably your best way to go about it.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Right. So, but this is spraying the flowers, yeah yeah yeah.
That flower stage is yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah yeah yeah, have a go, thank you.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
The netting. The netting is really working well, according to
my friends in Northland.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Brilliant. Good good luck with that, Brian, take care. We're
going to take short break. Will be back with it
in just a moment, righto, any seep, it is coming
up thirteen minutes away from nine o'clock. Dennis, good morning
to you, my.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Good Over the last few weeks, good morning. Over the
last few weeks, we've had several occasions when we have
gone out and on our patio there's been perhaps up
to one hundred tiny snails about five millimeters long. What
are they and what can we do about it?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh? Gosh, there's quite a few of them, but quite
often is it got a very pointy, pointy body.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Well, well, I look just like miliature of snails there
and they and they travel quite a distance across the
concrete overnight. They you know, they might travel three or
four meters.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Okay, right? And what do they do any damage?

Speaker 6 (09:59):
You think, Dennis, No, No, it's just that's the mess
to clean up, to try and get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Why why do you why why why would you need
to clean them up?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Well, because they just sit on the concrete day you
can't walk around without tramping on them.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, okay, yeah, that's either that or you let you
let some of the birds get them. That's another one
that they do it for free.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
It's a trouble it's on a patio and the birds
don't come in their match.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, all right, well in that case, go to your
local garden center. See what you can do with a
spray for that sort of stuff to stop those things
coming near your patio. And that's probably the only way
to go.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Would they where would they come from? We've we've got
back take back on our little bit of garden. Where
they come from under there?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yes, they probably could, because they probably are. Then some
of the snails that actually eat the rotting part of
that bike, you know, the bark that lives on the
on the on the floor. You know that's slowly, that's
only decays. And when some of these particular species of
snail like that, they will come over and tell oi,

(11:13):
this is where you get your dugger, and that's where
it came from. I suppose.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Okay, we'll drive that.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Have a go.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Take care then, and Brenda, very good morning to you.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
He's good morning. Or if you can help me please,
I have got some guardenas and also three toepreed lily police.
Now you can't see it from the outside, but when
you open up the inside of the lily peli, it
is actually covered in hundreds of small, tiny, white, frothy

(11:51):
almost like miniature, absolutely miniature snowballs. And I've tried to
spray with go is it ventors is just not working
at all. I've been trying to get inside the actual area.
Is there anything I can use or anything I can
add to the to the graventive to try and see

(12:13):
if that will cure the problem?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
My goodness, I would have expected grow Venti to do,
did you before?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
For things like sillus and it's marvelous.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, sillts, That's what I was just going to say.
They could be baby sillts, but they're much more.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
No, it's it's completely different. It's almost like you've got
a tiny piece of cotton wool and it's attached to
the stems of the plants, and literally these hundreds of
these little white.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Tiles. They're like aphid like things, but with with hair.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
No, no, it's it's almost like a self contained little white, white,
not fluffy, but white ball inside attached to the actual
stems of the actual of the actual plant.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
And they and they are alive, they walk around.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
If they are when you squeeze them gowey, And I've
never seen it before, and I just don't want spreading
to the rest of my garden.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I can imagine you've seen silvers before, obviously.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
If I have, it's completely different.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, and smaller too, probably.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
The actual white this they are. But these are like
if you look at the size of your little fingernail,
They're about half the size of that fingernail. And they
are a white, a little white white gowey ball.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I get it, but I do not know what
that would be. Are you in Auckland.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Region, so yes, yes, yes, No, it's.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Something that I don't know. I don't know if I've
seen that. I might have seen that before when I
lived in the area, but no, I can't tell you
what it was.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Okay, but it looks.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like it's an invertebrate, So it's an insect, right, Yes.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yes, If I added some mem oil to that, what
that would that make it maybe stick more to the
inside of the plant, because on the outside you wouldn't
even know that there was a problem.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yes, I guess you're absolutely right. If you use an
em oil, you'll probably get it in a good sticky
sace a system.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
Yeah, it's good like it adhering to it rather than
it just running off. I can't.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I like you.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I like that idea of yours. That's cool.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
If anyone else knows what it is, let.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Me know, because I am not one hundred percent you
if I know what it is.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yes, yes, all right, not to worry, Thank you anyway, goode,
Brenda take then.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Now let's go back to guavamov owen.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
Good morning, Oh, good morning, Pete. It was the original
fine mess, Budn't it experimental that sent you off information?
A couple of times on these.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We must have talked about this about years ago.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
Yes, I tried every every different way natural remedy. He's
a lot, you know, hammers and anvils out of sheer,
bloody mindedness. I fought these flip and things. But I
felt so for that guy who caught up about his oranges.
And I just had some general fruit advice to the
fine means. And I think that guava getting graver. Mu's

(15:22):
getting very very early after the fruit sets set. Yeah,
And what I find is that if I don't some years,
I don't need some of my fruit, and I need
others to see what happens or just out of business
and laziness. And I find with different kinds of fruit,
and I find that early season losses are around ninety

(15:43):
five percent for unnetted fruit. As the season progresses that
can reduce to around forty percent tour or so, maybe
even as low as twenty depending on the fruit, but
usually probably that you know.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Thirty forty but not surprise.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
What I what I suggest to once you've been caught
out with the glave moth, is that we What I
do is to take take you clear the fruit daily
to break the cycle. You know, so if you knit
it and you're a bit late, if you break that
cycle by clearing the fruit every day, and you take
the fruit out and I put it into a sink

(16:21):
or a bowl of water, depending on how much you've got,
leave it floating there for a while. You come back,
some of the some of the caterpillars that are in
the fruit will have come crawled out onto the outside,
and you can take the the lighter squashing the little
bigger and then what then was you're going to cut
the fruits? If you use the good part, go diagonally

(16:41):
across from the hole. Don't sort of not near the
hole or cut the fruit halfway. What I find is
you go diagonally across the fruit and say cut off.
Try to cut off a third of the fruit to
check it out, or half, or just go if you
want to make it easy, just you know, go to
the other side of the fruit diagonally opposite that and
cut it, and that's where you'll find the good fruit.

(17:02):
And then I do a suggestion of yours as freeze.
I just put her in the freezer for her, but
for a day or two before I check it out
into the compost, so I'm not perpetuating that that cycle.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You're not spreading.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
That's basically the approach I take with it. The sad
thing that happened this year is that I didn't bother
netting my fijs, and I just accepted the losses and
cut the bits off get the good stuff. And then
I discovered that my wife is not only does she
make the best plum, but the best fijo a gem.

(17:39):
I've pat it in my life and now I'm grieving
all those ones I didn't cat. So I will definitely
be netting before the next.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Owen's got his brownie points for the morning.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
So he's got the brownie point for the quick question.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's right, that's brilliant. Hey, thanks very much for that, Owen.
Now white sticky balls people. One person has suggested, could
it be spittlebug?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yes, it could be, but not this over the year, right,
it's usually in December.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, okay, someone else has got them on there. Put
au sporums. Someone else has got them on there, bucks us.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, there's lots of these creatures.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Stay tuned, folks, There'll be an update next week. The
mystery will be solved. Let's do it all right, mate, Hey,
enjoy your day, enjoy you week? Did you take care
all the boy? Think Radio? Thanks to the red and
again my thanks to Bryce has been a big part
of the show over many many years. So that was awesome.
It's a funny old day for me today. It's it's

(18:40):
actually it's actually my dad's birthday. He would have been
one hundred and three years old. So we'll go out
and celebrate dad's birthday today as well. Right, have a
great week. I'll be watching the football, the Dutch play
one o'clock on Tuesday. You'll see the flag up at
my place. Go well, now to London Radio. Have a
great week, folks, take care, See you next Sunday.

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