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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's so much happening right across the Northern Territory, and
yesterday we did indeed report that a sixteen year old
boy was found dead following a fatal crashing Catherine in
the early hours of yesterday morning. Now, by the time
the show was ending, we'd learned that the Northern Territory
Police had found two more teenagers with non life threatening
injuries following that allegedly stolen vehicle crash that left several
(00:23):
people in hospital. As I said, the sixteen year old
suffered critical injuries despite the efforts of paramedics, then died
at the scene. Three fourteen year olds, two boys and
a girl were taken to hospital in a stable condition,
and then, of course drone surveillance on that scene found
a further two girls in nearby bushland some time later. Now,
(00:45):
the acting Commander Mark Greeves said police were still investigating
the circumstances around that crash and it was going to
be a protracted investigation. Now joining us on the line
is the member for Catherine, Joe Hersey.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Morning Joe, Good morning, Katie, and good morning listeners. Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's been a terrible, terrible twenty four to forty eight
hours for Catherine. How are people really you know, how
are people feeling around the place.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, look, Katie, I think that was an absolutely tragic
incident that happened yesterday and thoughts go out to you know,
that young lad's family, and that just creates a ripple
effect across the community as well, because whilst that young
lad attended Kafleck, you know, there was a lot of
support that the teachers had put into that young person
(01:38):
at Kfleck. That was just you know, caught up in
that He wasn't one of the main ring leaders that
was you know, in that group or driving the vehicle.
And I think it's just a tragic series of events
that we have been dealing with, and the police have
been dealing with for a very long time, which is
why it's so important to continue address those root causes
(02:02):
of crime. And you know, I know that I've spoken before,
I've had conversations with the mayor because you know, the
Mayor's concerned about things as well. And whilst the crime
statistics show one thing, Katie, I know that that's not
what resonates when I talk to people out on the ground,
and that's what matters to me as a local member,
(02:22):
and I will continue to not be backward in coming
forward when I talk to members of my team and
take that those concerns to you know, my team in Darwin,
and I think as a local member and as a
minister in the cabinet, that is absolutely my role. But
you know, we continue to minister CaAl through territory families.
The circuit Breaker program is going on. You know, that
(02:46):
brings in education, that brings in housing and all those
services to you know, wrap around that young person. So
what I think is terrible, Yes, the fact that they
all left that poor person, like this person was in
the car with them and they all absconded and left
(03:08):
that person.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that struck me yesterday as well. It actually, you know,
I had a conversation with my kids in the car
about this yesterday and I was explaining to them what
had happened and explaining about you know, trying to make
good choices in your life and and you know, and
I sort of thought to myself, it like, it actually
breaks my heart to think that a young fellow was
dying in that car and didn't have a friend holding
(03:30):
his hand. And I don't know what they've done in
the lead into that, but I've certainly been seen videos
out of Catherine over the last twenty four hours, and Joe,
I'm sure you've probably seen them as well. I don't
know the same group of kids, but.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I have been shown those TikTok videos and the police
are also they also monitor hip as well. I mean,
so yes, it is everyone is aware, but it is
about you know, making sure you know, and maybe addressed
in the elephant in the room, Katie, where are the
parents here? You know, we know that this is why
(04:06):
Minister Carr was making changes to make sure that every
child is safe in their home environment. You know, are
responsible parents their children are home. I've actually just come
back from mud to Juliu and the kids at the
school did a poster of what happens, you know, when
they go home. This is what needs to happen as
(04:27):
the routine for them to be able to get out
of bed, setting their alarm the next day to get
to school. And that came from the school community community
led you know, a good poster that is up at
the school there. Yeah, which is the one that should
happen absolutely, but it's not set and forget that means
that parents have to be responsible to do that as well.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Look, I guess you know the problem is in some situations,
you know, some kids may not have that, but in others,
you know, it might be a situation where parents are
struggling to keep the kids under control. But just to
go back to I guess the governor response. I mean,
we've been speaking for quite a few weeks about the
crime in Catherine Been Courts had joined us on the
show a week or so ago and said that young
(05:09):
people with ankle bracelets have been getting around in the
late hours of the night, you know, causing trouble. We
also heard from Sally, whose mum had been targeted on
a number of occasions. Now, I'm not suggesting that these
are the same young people, right, I've got no idea
who they are or where they are from. But the
point is people have been saying that more needs to
(05:30):
be done. I'd ask the Chief Minister about it. I mean,
there doesn't seem to have been an amped up response,
despite the mayor calling for it as well. Are you
frustrated by the lack of response?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Look, and I know Sally and her mum and through
conversations with police, it is a core group of youth
that are doing. You know that there is only a
core group doing the majority of the crimes, Like, why
can't we stop them?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If there's just a core group and the police know
who they are, if everybody knows who they are, why
can't it be stopped?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, I suppose you have to get You have to
get them first. They have every single one of those
people from that accident yesterday. As I said, two of
them are ring leaders that will be you know charged.
I'm not sure that they have been charged at the moment,
but there is certainly there is a strong police presence.
(06:30):
You know, we have patrollers meetings that happen on Wednesday
through to Saturday nights. That's where the Circuit Breakers team,
I mean Kallana is. I've actually emailed Alan at Kolano,
the CEO there, to just to see, you know, we
need to potentially get together and there needs to be
a community led response from Kolano. And whilst maybe none
(06:51):
of the youth were from there, it's about having those
conversations Aboriginal organizations having those conversations with their people. It's
no good me, you know, then I can have these
conversations as well, Katie, and I absolutely do. But if
you're talking to Aboriginal people, I think that needs to
come more from Aboriginal leadership in those communities to get
(07:12):
that message across a lot stronger. And that's certainly something
that I'm working towards doing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The Mayor's I mean, the mayor's been calling for that action.
In fact, you know, like they're going to take some
action of their own to try and have a bit
of an impact. But that was well before this happened.
I mean, does the government really need to get to
the table with the council and with those indigenous organizations
as the mayor, Joanna Holden had been calling for weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I do meet with Joanna Holden the mayor, regularly,
and as do council meet with police regularly, and so
you know, I've said to Joanna when she meets with police,
maybe they need to take some of their solutions to
the table as well. I said to her, she wants
a round table. I mean that's to me, that's a
bit of a talk fest.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We have conversations with the Chief Minister though as well.
You have you spoken with the Chief Minister about her
concerns or has you know, like has that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Happened, absolutely. But the thing is, Katie, I mean as
a minister in the government, my role here is the
local member, as a very strong local member and certainly
not backward in coming forward. And I think most people
know that is. Whatever the concerns are that the mayor has,
or if she wants to get a group of people together,
but she thinks, are you know, people that are leaders
(08:35):
in other areas across the community. I said, I'm more
than happy you get the people and tell me the time,
and I will make sure that I sit down with them.
As a minister in the government and also the local member,
that is my role to take those concerns back to
the cabinet members and to government and then to you know,
pass that on and say you know, well, I think
(08:56):
we can get more support here.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But what do we need more happening going, Catherine, Like
when you look at the response in Alice Springs federally
and from the Northern Territory government, from everybody at different
times when crime's been blowing up in Alice Springs, you know,
do we need the same emphasis really on Catherine at
the moment, I.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Think that's that's a good question, And you know, maybe
we do just at the moment. I know that we
had an operation over the Christmas holiday period and there's
a considerable amount of work that goes in by police
circuit breaker, the average organizations housing children and families, all
those and education all working together. And that's what the
(09:39):
patrollers meeting is. On the Wednesday through to Saturday nights,
they all meet up at seven o'clock and then talk
about what they're going to do for the night, and
then they go out and you know, liaise with each
other through through the evening. Joe, Joe, maybe that is
something that needs to be ramped up, and maybe we
need some kind of initiative here in Catherine. Il certainly,
(10:00):
I'm heading up to da in this afternoon. I'll certainly
take those concerns back, and I will. I haven't reached
out to Joanna again since yesterday, but I will before
I head off.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And we're about on the show. Yeah, we're about on
the show as well, so we'll see. I'll get her take.
Tell me, I mean, do we need to be looking
at something like a curfew? Do we need a youth center?
You know, as I understand, there's not a youth center
there in Catherine are these things that we need to
be looking at.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, there's not a curfew. I was asked about that
yesterday and I spoke about, you know, the curfew that
they had in Alice Springs and whilst that works in
the CBD area, it pushed that crime out to other areas.
I think we just need to be, you know, maybe
working harder across all of these areas and you know,
making sure that what we're doing. You know, we've got
(10:51):
the strongest boil laws in the country. We've got certainly
police have got more powers to do detern NiFe crime.
And I know that there's been you know that these
core groups of people and that's the frustration I think
coming from the community and people have been around for
a while and it's escalating, and John that all concerns
me as well.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well. Absolutely, And now you know, a young person's died,
so it's it is at the point where something's clearly
got to change. I guess you know what I'm hearing
from you is obviously you know, all the things that
people want to hear, that we've got a greater police presence,
that there's you know, there's different things happening around the
place to try and curb these issues. But then on
the flip side, you know, we've got territorians that are
(11:31):
still saying that there's not enough change happening. And you know,
even from yesterday receiving those videos on TikTok that had
been posted just hours earlier in the night, where kids
are not even afraid for their faces to be seen
in what appeared to be stolen cars. You know, like it,
it blows everybody's minds how people can still be getting
(11:54):
around in a stolen car, they can be posting a
video about it. We've got you know, boast and post
laws in place, but then still nothing happens in the
same core group's getting around.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But I think also that's something that you know, maybe
reach out to the commander of police here and Catherine
and get him on the show to talk about that,
because I'm sure there are things going on in the background.
I'm positive of it what has happened yesterday. Doubt that
he can talk more.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
To point is, though, the point that I'm making is
that everybody's known for a while that you've got these
escalating issues in Catherine, Like we've all been able to
see and hear some of the concerns, you know, the
elderly saying that they're being broken into and that they
don't feel safe. Just regular citizens saying that they don't
feel safe in woollies because people are scoping amount to
(12:44):
you know, to steal their handbags. So, you know, I
guess the point that I'm trying to make is the
people of Catherine are saying that they're really fed up
with it, and if we know who this core group is,
why can't it be stopped.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, and just to go onto that, I know it's
not people don't want to hear about a talk fest
or they don't want to hear me giving lip service
to something that they know that is going on. I
think what we need to do is make sure that
we continue to work and have action happening by all
of these agencies working together. And you know, we are
(13:19):
almost two years into governments. This is twenty years of
neglect and we don't want to be playing that blame game.
But we have made extremely you know a lot of
changes since coming into government that take time to you know,
roll out across and get those results. But you know,
and it starts with you know, as a Minister for Education.
(13:42):
It starts with the intendants, officers, the engagement officers, we've
got counselors in schools, we've got school based police, we've
got Aboriginal liaison officers, all of these people working together
with those youths to make sure that they are getting
to school. If they're not getting to school, if they're
out and about, they're getting a compliance notice. If they're
not complaining, they're then getting a fine. And I know
(14:02):
that again when I was more to Julu, the principal
just told me that fifteen fines has been given out
down there because people had not complied. They had been
given plenty of time to comply, they hadn't done anything,
and so then they were given fines. And so then
that's something that I've you know, for the department to
follow up on as well, because we need to make
(14:23):
sure that you know, they go on to income management.
But it's not even about making sure they're paying the fine.
We want kids in schools and we want parents to
be responsible adults and make sure that they get their
kids up, get their kids to school, because then if
responsible adults are looking after their children, they won't be
driving around stealing people's cars and frustrating a community and
(14:46):
frustrating me as a local member to make sure that
everyone is working hard in the agency, is doing their work.
So these kids are still just basically flatting their nose
at the police. And as you said, the videos show
it all and it is discussed. Yeah. Look, Joe, one
person's lost their life, which is absolutely tragic.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's exactly right. It's it's a terrible situation.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I know that you have made an announcement today about
restoring territory pride. I'm not going to have enough time
to talk about it with you this morning, but we
will talk about it throughout that I want another time. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I agree with you. Joe Hersey member for Catherine. Always
appreciate your time. Thank you very much for joining us
this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Thanks Katie, thank you
There's so much happening right across the Northern Territory, and
yesterday we did indeed report that a sixteen year old
boy was found dead following a fatal crashing Catherine in
the early hours of yesterday morning. Now, by the time
the show was ending, we'd learned that the Northern Territory
Police had found two more teenagers with non life threatening
injuries following that allegedly stolen vehicle crash that left several
(00:23):
people in hospital. As I said, the sixteen year old
suffered critical injuries despite the efforts of paramedics, then died
at the scene. Three fourteen year olds, two boys and
a girl were taken to hospital in a stable condition,
and then, of course drone surveillance on that scene found
a further two girls in nearby bushland some time later. Now,
(00:45):
the acting Commander Mark Greeves said police were still investigating
the circumstances around that crash and it was going to
be a protracted investigation. Now joining us on the line
is the member for Catherine, Joe Hersey.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Morning Joe, Good morning, Katie, and good morning listeners. Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's been a terrible, terrible twenty four to forty eight
hours for Catherine. How are people really you know, how
are people feeling around the place.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, look, Katie, I think that was an absolutely tragic
incident that happened yesterday and thoughts go out to you know,
that young lad's family, and that just creates a ripple
effect across the community as well, because whilst that young
lad attended Kafleck, you know, there was a lot of
support that the teachers had put into that young person
(01:38):
at Kfleck. That was just you know, caught up in
that He wasn't one of the main ring leaders that
was you know, in that group or driving the vehicle.
And I think it's just a tragic series of events
that we have been dealing with, and the police have
been dealing with for a very long time, which is
why it's so important to continue address those root causes
(02:02):
of crime. And you know, I know that I've spoken before,
I've had conversations with the mayor because you know, the
Mayor's concerned about things as well. And whilst the crime
statistics show one thing, Katie, I know that that's not
what resonates when I talk to people out on the ground,
and that's what matters to me as a local member,
(02:22):
and I will continue to not be backward in coming
forward when I talk to members of my team and
take that those concerns to you know, my team in Darwin,
and I think as a local member and as a
minister in the cabinet, that is absolutely my role. But
you know, we continue to minister CaAl through territory families.
The circuit Breaker program is going on. You know, that
(02:46):
brings in education, that brings in housing and all those
services to you know, wrap around that young person. So
what I think is terrible, Yes, the fact that they
all left that poor person, like this person was in
the car with them and they all absconded and left
(03:08):
that person.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that struck me yesterday as well. It actually, you know,
I had a conversation with my kids in the car
about this yesterday and I was explaining to them what
had happened and explaining about you know, trying to make
good choices in your life and and you know, and
I sort of thought to myself, it like, it actually
breaks my heart to think that a young fellow was
dying in that car and didn't have a friend holding
(03:30):
his hand. And I don't know what they've done in
the lead into that, but I've certainly been seen videos
out of Catherine over the last twenty four hours, and Joe,
I'm sure you've probably seen them as well. I don't
know the same group of kids, but.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I have been shown those TikTok videos and the police
are also they also monitor hip as well. I mean,
so yes, it is everyone is aware, but it is
about you know, making sure you know, and maybe addressed
in the elephant in the room, Katie, where are the
parents here? You know, we know that this is why
(04:06):
Minister Carr was making changes to make sure that every
child is safe in their home environment. You know, are
responsible parents their children are home. I've actually just come
back from mud to Juliu and the kids at the
school did a poster of what happens, you know, when
they go home. This is what needs to happen as
(04:27):
the routine for them to be able to get out
of bed, setting their alarm the next day to get
to school. And that came from the school community community
led you know, a good poster that is up at
the school there. Yeah, which is the one that should
happen absolutely, but it's not set and forget that means
that parents have to be responsible to do that as well.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Look, I guess you know the problem is in some situations,
you know, some kids may not have that, but in others,
you know, it might be a situation where parents are
struggling to keep the kids under control. But just to
go back to I guess the governor response. I mean,
we've been speaking for quite a few weeks about the
crime in Catherine Been Courts had joined us on the
show a week or so ago and said that young
(05:09):
people with ankle bracelets have been getting around in the
late hours of the night, you know, causing trouble. We
also heard from Sally, whose mum had been targeted on
a number of occasions. Now, I'm not suggesting that these
are the same young people, right, I've got no idea
who they are or where they are from. But the
point is people have been saying that more needs to
(05:30):
be done. I'd ask the Chief Minister about it. I mean,
there doesn't seem to have been an amped up response,
despite the mayor calling for it as well. Are you
frustrated by the lack of response?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Look, and I know Sally and her mum and through
conversations with police, it is a core group of youth
that are doing. You know that there is only a
core group doing the majority of the crimes, Like, why
can't we stop them?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If there's just a core group and the police know
who they are, if everybody knows who they are, why
can't it be stopped?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, I suppose you have to get You have to
get them first. They have every single one of those
people from that accident yesterday. As I said, two of
them are ring leaders that will be you know charged.
I'm not sure that they have been charged at the moment,
but there is certainly there is a strong police presence.
(06:30):
You know, we have patrollers meetings that happen on Wednesday
through to Saturday nights. That's where the Circuit Breakers team,
I mean Kallana is. I've actually emailed Alan at Kolano,
the CEO there, to just to see, you know, we
need to potentially get together and there needs to be
a community led response from Kolano. And whilst maybe none
(06:51):
of the youth were from there, it's about having those
conversations Aboriginal organizations having those conversations with their people. It's
no good me, you know, then I can have these
conversations as well, Katie, and I absolutely do. But if
you're talking to Aboriginal people, I think that needs to
come more from Aboriginal leadership in those communities to get
(07:12):
that message across a lot stronger. And that's certainly something
that I'm working towards doing.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The Mayor's I mean, the mayor's been calling for that action.
In fact, you know, like they're going to take some
action of their own to try and have a bit
of an impact. But that was well before this happened.
I mean, does the government really need to get to
the table with the council and with those indigenous organizations
as the mayor, Joanna Holden had been calling for weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I do meet with Joanna Holden the mayor, regularly,
and as do council meet with police regularly, and so
you know, I've said to Joanna when she meets with police,
maybe they need to take some of their solutions to
the table as well. I said to her, she wants
a round table. I mean that's to me, that's a
bit of a talk fest.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We have conversations with the Chief Minister though as well.
You have you spoken with the Chief Minister about her
concerns or has you know, like has that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Happened, absolutely. But the thing is, Katie, I mean as
a minister in the government, my role here is the
local member, as a very strong local member and certainly
not backward in coming forward. And I think most people
know that is. Whatever the concerns are that the mayor has,
or if she wants to get a group of people together,
but she thinks, are you know, people that are leaders
(08:35):
in other areas across the community. I said, I'm more
than happy you get the people and tell me the time,
and I will make sure that I sit down with them.
As a minister in the government and also the local member,
that is my role to take those concerns back to
the cabinet members and to government and then to you know,
pass that on and say you know, well, I think
(08:56):
we can get more support here.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But what do we need more happening going, Catherine, Like
when you look at the response in Alice Springs federally
and from the Northern Territory government, from everybody at different
times when crime's been blowing up in Alice Springs, you know,
do we need the same emphasis really on Catherine at
the moment, I.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Think that's that's a good question, And you know, maybe
we do just at the moment. I know that we
had an operation over the Christmas holiday period and there's
a considerable amount of work that goes in by police
circuit breaker, the average organizations housing children and families, all
those and education all working together. And that's what the
(09:39):
patrollers meeting is. On the Wednesday through to Saturday nights,
they all meet up at seven o'clock and then talk
about what they're going to do for the night, and
then they go out and you know, liaise with each
other through through the evening. Joe, Joe, maybe that is
something that needs to be ramped up, and maybe we
need some kind of initiative here in Catherine. Il certainly,
(10:00):
I'm heading up to da in this afternoon. I'll certainly
take those concerns back, and I will. I haven't reached
out to Joanna again since yesterday, but I will before
I head off.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And we're about on the show. Yeah, we're about on
the show as well, so we'll see. I'll get her take.
Tell me, I mean, do we need to be looking
at something like a curfew? Do we need a youth center?
You know, as I understand, there's not a youth center
there in Catherine are these things that we need to
be looking at.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, there's not a curfew. I was asked about that
yesterday and I spoke about, you know, the curfew that
they had in Alice Springs and whilst that works in
the CBD area, it pushed that crime out to other areas.
I think we just need to be, you know, maybe
working harder across all of these areas and you know,
making sure that what we're doing. You know, we've got
(10:51):
the strongest boil laws in the country. We've got certainly
police have got more powers to do detern NiFe crime.
And I know that there's been you know that these
core groups of people and that's the frustration I think
coming from the community and people have been around for
a while and it's escalating, and John that all concerns
me as well.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well. Absolutely, And now you know, a young person's died,
so it's it is at the point where something's clearly
got to change. I guess you know what I'm hearing
from you is obviously you know, all the things that
people want to hear, that we've got a greater police presence,
that there's you know, there's different things happening around the
place to try and curb these issues. But then on
the flip side, you know, we've got territorians that are
(11:31):
still saying that there's not enough change happening. And you know,
even from yesterday receiving those videos on TikTok that had
been posted just hours earlier in the night, where kids
are not even afraid for their faces to be seen
in what appeared to be stolen cars. You know, like it,
it blows everybody's minds how people can still be getting
(11:54):
around in a stolen car, they can be posting a
video about it. We've got you know, boast and post
laws in place, but then still nothing happens in the
same core group's getting around.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But I think also that's something that you know, maybe
reach out to the commander of police here and Catherine
and get him on the show to talk about that,
because I'm sure there are things going on in the background.
I'm positive of it what has happened yesterday. Doubt that
he can talk more.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
To point is, though, the point that I'm making is
that everybody's known for a while that you've got these
escalating issues in Catherine, Like we've all been able to
see and hear some of the concerns, you know, the
elderly saying that they're being broken into and that they
don't feel safe. Just regular citizens saying that they don't
feel safe in woollies because people are scoping amount to
(12:44):
you know, to steal their handbags. So, you know, I
guess the point that I'm trying to make is the
people of Catherine are saying that they're really fed up
with it, and if we know who this core group is,
why can't it be stopped.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, and just to go onto that, I know it's
not people don't want to hear about a talk fest
or they don't want to hear me giving lip service
to something that they know that is going on. I
think what we need to do is make sure that
we continue to work and have action happening by all
of these agencies working together. And you know, we are
(13:19):
almost two years into governments. This is twenty years of
neglect and we don't want to be playing that blame game.
But we have made extremely you know a lot of
changes since coming into government that take time to you know,
roll out across and get those results. But you know,
and it starts with you know, as a Minister for Education.
(13:42):
It starts with the intendants, officers, the engagement officers, we've
got counselors in schools, we've got school based police, we've
got Aboriginal liaison officers, all of these people working together
with those youths to make sure that they are getting
to school. If they're not getting to school, if they're
out and about, they're getting a compliance notice. If they're
not complaining, they're then getting a fine. And I know
(14:02):
that again when I was more to Julu, the principal
just told me that fifteen fines has been given out
down there because people had not complied. They had been
given plenty of time to comply, they hadn't done anything,
and so then they were given fines. And so then
that's something that I've you know, for the department to
follow up on as well, because we need to make
(14:23):
sure that you know, they go on to income management.
But it's not even about making sure they're paying the fine.
We want kids in schools and we want parents to
be responsible adults and make sure that they get their
kids up, get their kids to school, because then if
responsible adults are looking after their children, they won't be
driving around stealing people's cars and frustrating a community and
(14:46):
frustrating me as a local member to make sure that
everyone is working hard in the agency, is doing their work.
So these kids are still just basically flatting their nose
at the police. And as you said, the videos show
it all and it is discussed. Yeah. Look, Joe, one
person's lost their life, which is absolutely tragic.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's exactly right. It's it's a terrible situation.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I know that you have made an announcement today about
restoring territory pride. I'm not going to have enough time
to talk about it with you this morning, but we
will talk about it throughout that I want another time. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I agree with you. Joe Hersey member for Catherine. Always
appreciate your time. Thank you very much for joining us
this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Thanks Katie, thank you
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