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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As we've just discussed with the Northern Territory Police Commissioner,
we know that serious questions are being raised about child
protection in the Northern Territory, Following on from the fact
that it was reported that the five year old allegedly
murdered in Alice Springs had been flagged to authorities multiple
times in the weeks before her death. The Minister for
Children and Families, Robin Carl, revealed on the show yesterday
(00:22):
that three staff have been stood down as a result.
Now joining us in the studio is the Northern Territory
Police Association President Nathan Finn. Good morning to you, Finny.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Good to have you on the show now, Finny, first off,
how are officers in Alice Springs at the moment? I
mean we spoke just under a week ago after we'd
seen that riotous behavior and some of the terrible scenes
out of Alice. How are they going?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You're not too bad, Katie, And obviously discussions are ongoing
with them. See how they're going. There obviously been a
reduction in numbers down there, obviously the result of the
search and then people transferring back to Darwin. As well
as a result of that search and capacity that was there,
obviously some of them returned. I've just been gone through
an RBT station from members that were down there on
the weekend on the way out of the studio this morning, Katie.
(01:08):
So again there's members struggling with it. There's members going
to struggle with what happened for a long time, Katie.
It's a very violent situation that they approached, and very
emotional set of circumstances which they've gone through over that
last week and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, I've no doubt about that. And you know, and yeah,
like what we saw on that Thursday night last week
was just terrible behavior, There's no other way to put it.
And that's why more than thirty people have now been
arrested as a result of that. But then you know,
what we saw in the leading to that was some
really great behavior, everybody sort of working together to try
(01:42):
and find this beautiful little girl.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Definitely has shown a very good side of the Elle
Springs community. And have you lived in Alice Springs for
over thirteen years, Katie and working closely with that community
was great to see that that part of it that
again that was soured by what actions took place after that. Yeah,
but again our police officers were they acted appropriately and
they're making sure that they're saving the community and looking
after the community down there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, Finny tell me these serious questions are being raised
about child protection in Alice Springs at the moment, or
in the Northern Territory, I think more broadly, after it
was reported that this little girl had been flagged to
authorities multiple times in the weeks before her death. Now,
understanding that we've got to be cautious here, I do
(02:26):
not want to, you know, any detail to be revealed
that shouldn't be. But the Minister had joined us on
the show yesterday. She's very careful with her words, but
she said that three staff have now have now been
stood down as a result of what's gone on. From
your perspective, you know, is this a situation that you
(02:49):
are hearing from frontline.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Offices, Katie, it's definitely deeply concerning what we heard. But again, unfortunately,
as a long serving police officer, there's not something new.
We have a lot of frustration with the territory families,
as you've heard the Commissioner did say this morning about
our obligations. Obviously, submitting reports manasre reports. Those reports are
submitted online. We don't have any contact given the nature
(03:10):
of our business twenty four to seven, we submit them online.
We very rarely hear back in relation to any of
those MANASAR reports at all. This has been something that
we've dealt with as a local agency and a police
are obviously in consultation with territory families all the time.
But again, many officers feel that we're doing everything we
possibly can we submitting the reports, and too often they're
being let down by the system of CILD protection.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So just let me get my head around this. So essentially,
as the commissioner had said that you've got the mandatory
obligation to submit that report. So then an officer, no
matter what case it is, they would then go back
to the office. They do that online and then you
don't hear anything back as to whether there's been a follow.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Up, no even to say that they've received the report
or they're looking into it. We don't receive any formal
advice from territory families in respect to that, so we're
at loggerheads. Basically, we don't know what's going on. We
hope that the report, what's being acted on. We have
no further follow up with territory families in respect to
that report, and we don't have the knowledge about how
many reports have been submitted by other officers, right, how
(04:09):
many times have been involved unless we're looking at there
obviously history as a police officer, we're looking at the
history how many times we're being called to this, or
how many times the child has been involved in a
domestic violence incident, or how many times as a child
welfare concerned for that child as well. So again we
don't know the background about how many reports have been submitted.
We very really have that communication with territory families in
respect to any cases, or they very rarely request any
(04:32):
further information from the police officer that attended.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But literally like you've got that mandatory requirement to submit
that concern and then that concern goes through the system.
So there is actually a digital log of all of this.
So the reality of this is all of that would
be able to be looked back at on any case,
no matter who that child may or may not be.
I mean, is it frustrating from a frontline police perspective?
(04:58):
You know, if an officer feels like they are going
out to a you know, a home, let's say where
there is you know, they know themselves that they've they've
done a mandatory report previously.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, definitely, we don't have that information. So we don't
know what's been submitted. Again, it's a case online, it's
an online document that we submit. But again, at the
end of the day, a little child has lost their life,
regardless of obviously what's happened and everything else, regardless of
what's been submitted, there's going to be a coronial that
goes through this and explores obviously what happened. How many
notifications have been explored. We don't know where these reports
(05:33):
have come from. Who's actually lit this report to the media. Again,
it's quite concerning that this information's out there. Someone's trying
to gain a benefit from releasing this information. It might
be from the Territory Family staff themselves that are very
chronically understaffed, and then we've had these conversations with them a
number of times with Territory Families over the years. We
know they've got an incredible work late and they do
an incredibly hard job, Katie, But at the end of
(05:55):
the day, we have to focus on the child and
the welfare of that child, to make sure that they
support in the situation they are, regardless of what we
don't know what's in those reports. We haven't seen what's
in those reports. And we're also speculating here as well.
But it's very concerning.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, this is the thing. We don't actually know what's
in those reports, and I don't profess to know what
is in those reports, and I don't want to, you know, like,
I don't want to take this too far and jeopardize
anything in any way, shape or form. I guess what
I'm trying to get a grasp of on a broader.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Scale, understanding the procedure.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yes, that's exactly right. And also, you know, understanding whether
police are frustrated that there could be repeated notifications to
child protection authorities about any child and that they feel
like it's not acted upon.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
If I sat here and said that police aren't frustrated
with the way that reports are made to territory families
and the lack of action against both territory families in
taking action against those reports, they are. It's a common
occurrence for us, Katie. We have the welfare of the
children at heart. We have the welfare of the people
we deal with on a heart or a professional organization.
We make sure that these mansie reports are submitted. They're
submitted with enough information to provide to territory families to
(07:00):
take that action. Whether they take action or not, and
whether they're staffing format permits, that is definitely up to
them and needs obviously a review if that. If that's
not the case, they haven't got their staffing to deal
with the number of reports coming in, or they can't
take the action they're supposed to be. At the end
of the day, regardless of what happens, color, creed, race,
everything else out of it, if a child's in need
of care, if they're not getting the care that they're
(07:21):
supposed to be getting in that family circumstances, they need
to be removed. Caddie.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Regardless, Finny, what supporter officers in Alla Springs needing right now?
After both you know, obviously we spoke about the tragedy
and the unreset followed.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They need support. We've seen unluckily the circumstances in Ollie Springs.
Dictator that the Territory Response Group were there and be
able to employ the non lethal ammunition. Again, the CS
guest to make sure that the crowd stayed away. We
haven't got that permanent capacity down there, and that's something
they'll be writing to the Commission about to see if
we can obviously establish a response group down there in
(07:54):
an a sop's situation. We're just lucky in this situation
that they were there, as it would have been left
to the general Duties members didn't have that or have
access to that equipment.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What could have happened if you didn't have that additional
support down there and we saw the writers' behavior that
we saw and they weren't able to deploy that, it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Could have turned lethal very quickly, Katie, and we'd hate
to think what could have happened. But we were fortunate
to have that situation there and they have that capability
down there at the time, and lucky for the members
down there and had a good conversation with their recruits
that were heading down They graduated on Friday evening and
heading down there. Most of them are getting down there
in the next couple of days. They're quite nervous about
(08:32):
some of the stuff that's been going quite rightfully, so
they're new to the job. They're looking at this overall.
They're making sure their families are asking the questions as
well as it was my son and daughter going to
be safe and Ellie Springs when they're policing this again,
to reassure them then, to make sure they've had the
appropriate training to deal with what's coming up or what
possibly could be that could have been their first shift
(08:53):
coming on to work. And regardless of what happens, these
are volatile situations and the behaviors of the people that
engage in this type of behavior it's not exceptaly. Yeah,
and we're not never going to accept that as police officers.
And to make sure that our police officer are doing
everything possibly they can to protect themselves and to preckt
the Al Springs community is the main thing.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. Absolutely. Now, Finny, I want to ask you, obviously,
the budget's been handed down this week's long two days.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know it's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There's been a lot on, hasn't there. But we know
that that there's six hundred and fifty four million dollars
that policing investment that was announced.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
What could we do with another six hundred and fifty
four million dollars, Cadie, We could possibly spend that as well.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We might need some for health as well though.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wealth. Yeah, I think health needs them as well.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Got to spread the love. Hey, what do rank and
file officers want to see prioritized to help them do
their jobs more effectively?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Essentially, Katie, and we're not being critical of the budget.
We always obviously they've got a hard job in managing
the budget. We need to make sure that we've got
enough staff on the ground. We've seen that the budget allowed.
We've seen an increase of sixty eight full time staff
members over this LAS twelve months. Again, is that enough? No,
I don't think so. We have a huge problem in
our remote and regional stations at the moment with relation
(10:06):
to vacancies, an excess of sixty vacancies in our remote
stations alone. This is attributed to the infrastructure of the
aging the infrastructure out there. We've seen a budget and
a cap of items spend of one hundred and seventy
six million dollars being allocated for upgrades to stations, et cetera.
Quite concerning though, is that one hundred and sixty million
dollars that is revoted from last year's budget.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So it's not new money.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, it's not new money. One hundred and sixty million
dollars that's been dragged over from the previous financial.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Hew does that indicate that we've built nothing new or
haven't done any of the repeats and maintenance that were required.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That that's the questions that we're asking you the money. Right.
They've also identified that there's going to be sixty new
station builds. We've got some confirmation from the Chief Minis's
office that those aren't going to be six new builds,
that they're going to be upgrades to existing stations that
are out there, and we like to have a seat
at that table and making that decision. I believe that
elperb has been put back on the on the on
the table that which we argued to be taken off.
(11:01):
It's not a community that needs a permanent police presence, right,
But again, these are conversation that needs the government need
to have with the police. And also we're interested the
police association as well aging infrastructure everything else. And we've
surveyed our members. The main thing that our issues that
our members have in remote areas is the standard of
housing and the standard of infrastructure and those security members
and their families and those remote communities, and we're not
(11:22):
seeing that we can't expand our platform in some of
these communities, which we need to because we simply haven't
got the housing there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Finny, just a quick one before I let you go
with the increased numbers. So we're basically being told with
that budget increase that it's going to see an increase
of more than one hundred and fifty additional police as
well as the PPSOS. Or with the PPSOS, how do
you break those numbers down?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Fine wording there, Kadie, Fine wording, Definitely, we'd love to
see one hundred and fifty new constables. Whether that's including
the PPSOS is something we need to clarify with the government.
We need counciples on the ground, We need councils to
do the response jobs that we need to do, and
we need to make sure that our remote footprint is
staffed appropriately because they're seeing staff working up and that's
subject to a current coronial that's going on which we
(12:07):
were involved in, where we're seeing members being placed in
remote stations for up to nine weeks of occasion by themselves, Katie,
and female officers are that in remote Aboriginal communities. It's
not acceptable, Katie. We need to improve that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, well, Nathan Finn, I always appreciate your time. We
will have to leave it there this morning. We have
got the busiest morning lined.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Up please this morning.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
No, we've got just into number jimper Price coming up
next and then Marion Scrimjaws. So from police to police
or police, it's we've got it all covered this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Finny to be political, Katie, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nathan Finn, always good to catch up. Thank you so
much for your time this morning,
As we've just discussed with the Northern Territory Police Commissioner,
we know that serious questions are being raised about child
protection in the Northern Territory, Following on from the fact
that it was reported that the five year old allegedly
murdered in Alice Springs had been flagged to authorities multiple
times in the weeks before her death. The Minister for
Children and Families, Robin Carl, revealed on the show yesterday
(00:22):
that three staff have been stood down as a result.
Now joining us in the studio is the Northern Territory
Police Association President Nathan Finn. Good morning to you, Finny.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Good to have you on the show now, Finny, first off,
how are officers in Alice Springs at the moment? I
mean we spoke just under a week ago after we'd
seen that riotous behavior and some of the terrible scenes
out of Alice. How are they going?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You're not too bad, Katie, And obviously discussions are ongoing
with them. See how they're going. There obviously been a
reduction in numbers down there, obviously the result of the
search and then people transferring back to Darwin. As well
as a result of that search and capacity that was there,
obviously some of them returned. I've just been gone through
an RBT station from members that were down there on
the weekend on the way out of the studio this morning, Katie.
(01:08):
So again there's members struggling with it. There's members going
to struggle with what happened for a long time, Katie.
It's a very violent situation that they approached, and very
emotional set of circumstances which they've gone through over that
last week and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, I've no doubt about that. And you know, and yeah,
like what we saw on that Thursday night last week
was just terrible behavior, There's no other way to put it.
And that's why more than thirty people have now been
arrested as a result of that. But then you know,
what we saw in the leading to that was some
really great behavior, everybody sort of working together to try
(01:42):
and find this beautiful little girl.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Definitely has shown a very good side of the Elle
Springs community. And have you lived in Alice Springs for
over thirteen years, Katie and working closely with that community
was great to see that that part of it that
again that was soured by what actions took place after that. Yeah,
but again our police officers were they acted appropriately and
they're making sure that they're saving the community and looking
after the community down there.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, Finny tell me these serious questions are being raised
about child protection in Alice Springs at the moment, or
in the Northern Territory, I think more broadly, after it
was reported that this little girl had been flagged to
authorities multiple times in the weeks before her death. Now,
understanding that we've got to be cautious here, I do
(02:26):
not want to, you know, any detail to be revealed
that shouldn't be. But the Minister had joined us on
the show yesterday. She's very careful with her words, but
she said that three staff have now have now been
stood down as a result of what's gone on. From
your perspective, you know, is this a situation that you
(02:49):
are hearing from frontline.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Offices, Katie, it's definitely deeply concerning what we heard. But again, unfortunately,
as a long serving police officer, there's not something new.
We have a lot of frustration with the territory families,
as you've heard the Commissioner did say this morning about
our obligations. Obviously, submitting reports manasre reports. Those reports are
submitted online. We don't have any contact given the nature
(03:10):
of our business twenty four to seven, we submit them online.
We very rarely hear back in relation to any of
those MANASAR reports at all. This has been something that
we've dealt with as a local agency and a police
are obviously in consultation with territory families all the time.
But again, many officers feel that we're doing everything we
possibly can we submitting the reports, and too often they're
being let down by the system of CILD protection.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So just let me get my head around this. So essentially,
as the commissioner had said that you've got the mandatory
obligation to submit that report. So then an officer, no
matter what case it is, they would then go back
to the office. They do that online and then you
don't hear anything back as to whether there's been a follow.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Up, no even to say that they've received the report
or they're looking into it. We don't receive any formal
advice from territory families in respect to that, so we're
at loggerheads. Basically, we don't know what's going on. We
hope that the report, what's being acted on. We have
no further follow up with territory families in respect to
that report, and we don't have the knowledge about how
many reports have been submitted by other officers, right, how
(04:09):
many times have been involved unless we're looking at there
obviously history as a police officer, we're looking at the
history how many times we're being called to this, or
how many times the child has been involved in a
domestic violence incident, or how many times as a child
welfare concerned for that child as well. So again we
don't know the background about how many reports have been submitted.
We very really have that communication with territory families in
respect to any cases, or they very rarely request any
(04:32):
further information from the police officer that attended.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But literally like you've got that mandatory requirement to submit
that concern and then that concern goes through the system.
So there is actually a digital log of all of this.
So the reality of this is all of that would
be able to be looked back at on any case,
no matter who that child may or may not be.
I mean, is it frustrating from a frontline police perspective?
(04:58):
You know, if an officer feels like they are going
out to a you know, a home, let's say where
there is you know, they know themselves that they've they've
done a mandatory report previously.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, definitely, we don't have that information. So we don't
know what's been submitted. Again, it's a case online, it's
an online document that we submit. But again, at the
end of the day, a little child has lost their life,
regardless of obviously what's happened and everything else, regardless of
what's been submitted, there's going to be a coronial that
goes through this and explores obviously what happened. How many
notifications have been explored. We don't know where these reports
(05:33):
have come from. Who's actually lit this report to the media. Again,
it's quite concerning that this information's out there. Someone's trying
to gain a benefit from releasing this information. It might
be from the Territory Family staff themselves that are very
chronically understaffed, and then we've had these conversations with them a
number of times with Territory Families over the years. We
know they've got an incredible work late and they do
an incredibly hard job, Katie, But at the end of
(05:55):
the day, we have to focus on the child and
the welfare of that child, to make sure that they
support in the situation they are, regardless of what we
don't know what's in those reports. We haven't seen what's
in those reports. And we're also speculating here as well.
But it's very concerning.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, this is the thing. We don't actually know what's
in those reports, and I don't profess to know what
is in those reports, and I don't want to, you know, like,
I don't want to take this too far and jeopardize
anything in any way, shape or form. I guess what
I'm trying to get a grasp of on a broader.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Scale, understanding the procedure.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yes, that's exactly right. And also, you know, understanding whether
police are frustrated that there could be repeated notifications to
child protection authorities about any child and that they feel
like it's not acted upon.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
If I sat here and said that police aren't frustrated
with the way that reports are made to territory families
and the lack of action against both territory families in
taking action against those reports, they are. It's a common
occurrence for us, Katie. We have the welfare of the
children at heart. We have the welfare of the people
we deal with on a heart or a professional organization.
We make sure that these mansie reports are submitted. They're
submitted with enough information to provide to territory families to
(07:00):
take that action. Whether they take action or not, and
whether they're staffing format permits, that is definitely up to
them and needs obviously a review if that. If that's
not the case, they haven't got their staffing to deal
with the number of reports coming in, or they can't
take the action they're supposed to be. At the end
of the day, regardless of what happens, color, creed, race,
everything else out of it, if a child's in need
of care, if they're not getting the care that they're
(07:21):
supposed to be getting in that family circumstances, they need
to be removed. Caddie.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Regardless, Finny, what supporter officers in Alla Springs needing right now?
After both you know, obviously we spoke about the tragedy
and the unreset followed.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They need support. We've seen unluckily the circumstances in Ollie Springs.
Dictator that the Territory Response Group were there and be
able to employ the non lethal ammunition. Again, the CS
guest to make sure that the crowd stayed away. We
haven't got that permanent capacity down there, and that's something
they'll be writing to the Commission about to see if
we can obviously establish a response group down there in
(07:54):
an a sop's situation. We're just lucky in this situation
that they were there, as it would have been left
to the general Duties members didn't have that or have
access to that equipment.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What could have happened if you didn't have that additional
support down there and we saw the writers' behavior that
we saw and they weren't able to deploy that, it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Could have turned lethal very quickly, Katie, and we'd hate
to think what could have happened. But we were fortunate
to have that situation there and they have that capability
down there at the time, and lucky for the members
down there and had a good conversation with their recruits
that were heading down They graduated on Friday evening and
heading down there. Most of them are getting down there
in the next couple of days. They're quite nervous about
(08:32):
some of the stuff that's been going quite rightfully, so
they're new to the job. They're looking at this overall.
They're making sure their families are asking the questions as
well as it was my son and daughter going to
be safe and Ellie Springs when they're policing this again,
to reassure them then, to make sure they've had the
appropriate training to deal with what's coming up or what
possibly could be that could have been their first shift
(08:53):
coming on to work. And regardless of what happens, these
are volatile situations and the behaviors of the people that
engage in this type of behavior it's not exceptaly. Yeah,
and we're not never going to accept that as police officers.
And to make sure that our police officer are doing
everything possibly they can to protect themselves and to preckt
the Al Springs community is the main thing.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. Absolutely. Now, Finny, I want to ask you, obviously,
the budget's been handed down this week's long two days.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know it's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There's been a lot on, hasn't there. But we know
that that there's six hundred and fifty four million dollars
that policing investment that was announced.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
What could we do with another six hundred and fifty
four million dollars, Cadie, We could possibly spend that as well.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We might need some for health as well though.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Wealth. Yeah, I think health needs them as well.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Got to spread the love. Hey, what do rank and
file officers want to see prioritized to help them do
their jobs more effectively?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Essentially, Katie, and we're not being critical of the budget.
We always obviously they've got a hard job in managing
the budget. We need to make sure that we've got
enough staff on the ground. We've seen that the budget allowed.
We've seen an increase of sixty eight full time staff
members over this LAS twelve months. Again, is that enough? No,
I don't think so. We have a huge problem in
our remote and regional stations at the moment with relation
(10:06):
to vacancies, an excess of sixty vacancies in our remote
stations alone. This is attributed to the infrastructure of the
aging the infrastructure out there. We've seen a budget and
a cap of items spend of one hundred and seventy
six million dollars being allocated for upgrades to stations, et cetera.
Quite concerning though, is that one hundred and sixty million
dollars that is revoted from last year's budget.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So it's not new money.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, it's not new money. One hundred and sixty million
dollars that's been dragged over from the previous financial.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Hew does that indicate that we've built nothing new or
haven't done any of the repeats and maintenance that were required.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That that's the questions that we're asking you the money. Right.
They've also identified that there's going to be sixty new
station builds. We've got some confirmation from the Chief Minis's
office that those aren't going to be six new builds,
that they're going to be upgrades to existing stations that
are out there, and we like to have a seat
at that table and making that decision. I believe that
elperb has been put back on the on the on
the table that which we argued to be taken off.
(11:01):
It's not a community that needs a permanent police presence, right,
But again, these are conversation that needs the government need
to have with the police. And also we're interested the
police association as well aging infrastructure everything else. And we've
surveyed our members. The main thing that our issues that
our members have in remote areas is the standard of
housing and the standard of infrastructure and those security members
and their families and those remote communities, and we're not
(11:22):
seeing that we can't expand our platform in some of
these communities, which we need to because we simply haven't
got the housing there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Finny, just a quick one before I let you go
with the increased numbers. So we're basically being told with
that budget increase that it's going to see an increase
of more than one hundred and fifty additional police as
well as the PPSOS. Or with the PPSOS, how do
you break those numbers down?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Fine wording there, Kadie, Fine wording, Definitely, we'd love to
see one hundred and fifty new constables. Whether that's including
the PPSOS is something we need to clarify with the government.
We need counciples on the ground, We need councils to
do the response jobs that we need to do, and
we need to make sure that our remote footprint is
staffed appropriately because they're seeing staff working up and that's
subject to a current coronial that's going on which we
(12:07):
were involved in, where we're seeing members being placed in
remote stations for up to nine weeks of occasion by themselves, Katie,
and female officers are that in remote Aboriginal communities. It's
not acceptable, Katie. We need to improve that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, well, Nathan Finn, I always appreciate your time. We
will have to leave it there this morning. We have
got the busiest morning lined.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Up please this morning.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
No, we've got just into number jimper Price coming up
next and then Marion Scrimjaws. So from police to police
or police, it's we've got it all covered this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Finny to be political, Katie, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nathan Finn, always good to catch up. Thank you so
much for your time this morning,
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