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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, as I've just touched on some massive news over
the weekend, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy publicly
apologizing to Indigenous territories for the harms and injustices caused
by the force over the past one hundred and fifty
four years of policing. Now the Commissioner delivering that apology
at the Gama Festival on Saturday, we know then that
(00:22):
the vice president of the Northern Territory Police Association had
come out and said the speech and its entirety was
sent to the media before the membership, and that it's
not the role of police to assess the success or
otherwise of federal government directed policies of closing the gap,
the stolen generation and the intervention, as the Commissioner has done.
(00:42):
Now as a result of those comments made by the Association,
Michael Murphy, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner, has now resigned
from his membership from the police union, which represents ninety
eight percent of the police force. So I think that
that's a point well worth making this morning, is that
most are unions realistically don't have numbers that are that
(01:03):
high that represent a workforce to that level.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It is quite a miss.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think you'd have to say right now, the fact
that this is all unfolded just three weeks out from
an election.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Not so much the apology. I mean I do question
the timing of it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But joining me in the studio right now is the
opposition leader Leah Finocchio.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Good morning to you, Leah.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Good morning Katie into your listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
First off, what do you make of the apology.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think everyone's really been taken by surprise on this, Katie.
There's times and places for apologies, but we're certainly very
concerned for the frontline. We know our police have not
been supported by the Labor government for a number of years,
resulting in low levels of morale and high rates of
police leaving the force. And so the fact that you
(01:51):
know the Labor government, you know, evil Law has got
to explain how long she's known about this forum, why
it wasn't communication to the public and to the police force.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, look, we are due to catch up with the
police Police Minister Brent Potter in just a couple of
moments time, so no doubt we'll ask that. But I mean,
do you agree with the apology. Do you think that
it's the right move.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, I think there's a time and place for that.
I don't think it's the priority right now. We have
a police force who've gone through a very tumultuous time.
We saw labor with the bungled sacking of the previous
Police commissioner and it certainly had a very profound impact
on the front line. We've certainly received a lot of
feedback from members feeling like this is just more blame
(02:37):
being shifted on to them, and so it's undoubtedly going
to cause and gain another period of instability and uncertainty,
which is not something we need at this time.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I suppose from the.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Other perspective, some maybe looking at this from the outside
in and going well, we are due to have the
findings handed down from a coronial inquest, which we know
throughout that coronial we have seen evidence of racism within
the Northern.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Territory Police Force.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So some may be sort of watching all of this thinking, well,
it is the right move from the Northern Territory Police
Commissioner to apologize to Indigenous people if we're ever going
to mean into the gap.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, I think it's how you handle these things, Katie.
Now we've got men and women out there on the
front line dealing with the greatest crime crisis we've ever had.
They are under resource and undersupported by the government and
I think, you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Know, we're in caretaker mode.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
The Chief Minister this morning on ABC radio said for
the last two months, you know there's been discussion, well,
you know, did she influence the Police commissioner to go
and do this?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So you think that the commissioners had political influence?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, I think the question is more to the government
around did they want him to do this because they
weren't at Gama.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So close to an election, and also the timing for
our police when they need to know, really be focusing
on dealing with the crime crisis and feeling supported.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think this is just really for a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I just want to get this straight.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Do you think that the Northern Territory Labor Party having
influenced the Police Commissioner in terms of making this apology?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I think they must have known about it, and
in which case, why wasn't this communicated to people going forward?
It came as a surprise to everybody. I've spoken to
Katie and certainly the reaction has been surprising. And then
you've got this issue of resigning from the Police Association,
which I think will further, you know, cause strain on
(04:31):
our frontline police force. And what we want is really
strong relationships a strong force going forward. They've got a
huge job to do and we fully support our police
in the task ahead of them, and you know, this
uncertainty just doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
With the move that the Police Commissioner has made.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There is no doubt that he has hoped that this
move would be a step in the right direction and
that what it's going to do is take all of
the Northern territory you know, along on this journey and
bring people together.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Do you think he's achieved that aim?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I think it's been handled badly and I really
question the role of the government in this. I mean,
it's their responsibility. This is a major statement made at
a major event.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, is that a bit disrespectful to the Police
commissioner given the fact that he is an independent public
service servant? I should say, who has to make those
decisions himself?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, the Police Commissioner can make the decisions he needs
to make. My question really is is how long has
the government known about this, and why hasn't it been
communicated this intention to the public and more importantly to
our police, who are very clearly unhappy about what's going on.
And so I think it's just more destabilization, more uncertainty,
(05:47):
and the focus really has to be about improving the
lives of Aboriginal people right across the territory, on tackling crime,
and on supporting our frontline police to be able to
deal with the enormous increase in we've experienced under labor.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, do you think though the moves that are
being made, or certainly the announcement that's been made in
terms of in this part of it's not new, but
thirty percent Indigenous workforce and some of the other measures
and some of the other things that were announced as
part of that speech, do you think that they're a
good move and a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We certainly support the increase, and the Police Association actually
said we need those really clear pathways for our Aboriginal
community police officers to be able to transition to constable
and we wholeheartedly agree with that. But what we need
to do is make sure all of our police feel
supported and you know, they're facing and have faced very
(06:41):
tough times over a significant period. We've got to make
sure they feel like they're supported and can take on
this enormous level of crime that the government has put
on them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now. In all of the coverage over the weekend, there
was a line from that speech which I've already had
listeners contact me about after reading it in an article
online on the ABA, and it's the line that sees
one police are routinely tasked with enforcing policies, laws and regulations,
both federal and here in the Northern Territory that are
often influenced by media coverage of crime, victims and community safety,
(07:15):
regardless of the data and evidence. Regardless of the data,
evidence and expert advice.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What did you make of that comment?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, I don't quite understand it myself, Katie. What we
know is that crime is out of control and we
want our police to be supported with the resources, the
personnel and the powers to be able to deal with it. Now,
if the Commissioner is saying there's the external influences that
lead police's decision making, then that's something that needs to
(07:45):
be looked at.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But I mean, do you believe that policies should be
driven by victims of crime and community safety.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, of course we.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Need regardless of the data, we absolutely need to make
people feel safe to be more victim focused.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I mean, I don't know how many times.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
On your show, Katie, I've said that this government is
putting the rights of offenders above the rights of people
to be safe.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So again I think.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
If this, you know, perhaps this is just a.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Playing Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And look, I want to say that the listeners who've
been in contact with us have said that they felt
like that was a real kick in the guts in
terms of being a victim of crime and feeling like,
you know, like, yeah, that did not sit well with Sure,
I'm not going to put words in victims of crime's mouth,
but they it didn't sit well with them. But from
the other side of that, I mean, is that really
(08:39):
a reflection from the Northern Territory Police Commissioner three weeks
out from the Northern Territory election that he's concerned that
both of our major political parties are basing policies on,
you know, on the loudest voices in the community, not
necessarily what you know, what others deem evidence based.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Is the right thing to do.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Look, I really don't know what he meant, and this
is all part of that uncertainty, and again begs the
question around what government's role in any of this was.
I think more uncertainty is not what we need, and
that is why the CLP has been very clear around
our position to give police better powers. You know, week
one of Parliament, if we have the privilege to govern
(09:19):
in August, we want to give our police better powers
to deal with alcohol, to deal with young people, community safety.
It is the number one issue and I think that's
why this direction we've seen over the last couple of
days is just not the priorities of our community.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I do want to ask you about the situation in
Woodroff because last week we spoke to residents on Emory
Avenue in Woodroff who'd been plugged by crime and anti
social behavior. Those issues culminated with the car being set alight.
The residents of this once very happy, family friendly street
are at their wits end.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Have you been out there to speak to those residents.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I haven't, but I had my team, Clinton Howe, member
of the candidate for Dry Hasdal, and Matt Kell, the
candidate for blame. We're out there at that community meeting
hearing the concerns of people on the ground, and it's
fair to say they are absolutely well and truly fed
up Katie, and so they should be Their right to
be safe and live in peace and quiet has totally
(10:15):
been ignored by the Labor government. Again, that just isn't
getting on top of issues early on, and they're escalating
into horrific scenes where we've got people not sleeping for
more than two weeks, Katie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Residents out there, so that the people causing the issues
were visitors from other communities. They say that there's JOVI
tags around the place. How are you going to stop
people from coming in from other communities and breaking the law,
Because it's not illegal obviously to travel into Darwin and
do the right thing, But if you're coming in here
and breaking the law, how are you going to stop that?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, yeah, this is a multi layered approach. So first
of all, we need to be upholding standards in territory housing.
So we have a streat three strikes through our policy.
People have had enough and so we need to be
supporting tenants who are often doing the right thing. But
the visit it as are doing the wrong thing, and
we need to be supporting tenants through strong tenancy management
(11:05):
to make sure that people doing the wrong thing are
held accountable. There Also, there needs to be consequences by
supporting our police to deal with these high levels of crime.
We can get more police out on the front line
to respond early. We don't want things escalating to the
point where there are cars burning in streets.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
We've got to be tackling these issues quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's why better powers around youths, better powers around public
drinking and problem drunks is going to stop crimes from
happening later on in the evening. We've got to be
dealing with things much earlier through high visible policing and
proactive police powers.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
All a couple of quick ones that I want to
get to. On Friday, we learned to potentially decades long
departmental bungle around the fine enforcement has left the Northern
Territory government exposed to civil litigation and a possible eye
CAC probe.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So it was revealed that the.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Process used to enforce fines and penalties was not found
to comply with legislation. Make of this situation, well, it's
just another absolute bungle you know, LAMA have been in
power nineteen of the last twenty three years. My understanding
is this is a twenty year problem that labor have
now uncovered and it just again goes to them being
(12:15):
asleep at the wheel, not having control of what's going
on across the territory. And it's you guys were in
power at one point of that as well. The SELP
was empower at one point of that. How did you
guys not notice.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well for four out of twenty three years compared to nineteen.
I think territories can make their own judgment on that.
But ultimately we're not seeing a clear pathway forward from
the government out of this mess. It's just more questions
and there are answers. Katie and the government again, it's
just trying to sweep this under the carpet and hope
that it goes away before the election.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, how can people have confidence that your party won't
also balls things like this up.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Because we are very, very committed to the future of
the territory. Katie my team have the real world and
government ex experience to rebuild the territory. We are very
focused on taking this seriously. If we get the opportunity
to govern because you know, the territory is at a
turning point. This really is a juncture where we can
have a territory continuing to go backwards, or we can
(13:14):
do things differently and drive forward.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And be a territory that we can all be proud.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You are very quick one.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
There's been reporting over the weekend that one of the
CLP's major donors has been photographed taking pulling other people's
signs down around the CBD.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What's the go here?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
My understanding of that, Katie, is that labor did not
get the permission of the land owner, and the landowner
asked the CLP to remove the labor signs, and.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So he had permission to remove those signs.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
That's correct, and you take them. I have no idea, Katie.
So we've heard this right across all of the electorates. Actually,
where labor have just put up signs on people's private
property and not sought their permission.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Is that the.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
CLP's job though to remove those signs, like I would
suggest not.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, I don't know the whole story of that, Katie,
but what I do know is that you know, labor
are out there just putting up signs on people's property
without permission, which is pretty disrespectful and ordinary.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Ask paper on next so we'll find out more about that.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Leah. We are going to have to leave it there.
We've got you back in the study on Friday. From
our leaders debates, look for you, see you Friday morning.
Thanks so much, Thanks for your time.
Well, as I've just touched on some massive news over
the weekend, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy publicly
apologizing to Indigenous territories for the harms and injustices caused
by the force over the past one hundred and fifty
four years of policing. Now the Commissioner delivering that apology
at the Gama Festival on Saturday, we know then that
(00:22):
the vice president of the Northern Territory Police Association had
come out and said the speech and its entirety was
sent to the media before the membership, and that it's
not the role of police to assess the success or
otherwise of federal government directed policies of closing the gap,
the stolen generation and the intervention, as the Commissioner has done.
(00:42):
Now as a result of those comments made by the Association,
Michael Murphy, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner, has now resigned
from his membership from the police union, which represents ninety
eight percent of the police force. So I think that
that's a point well worth making this morning, is that
most are unions realistically don't have numbers that are that
(01:03):
high that represent a workforce to that level.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It is quite a miss.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think you'd have to say right now, the fact
that this is all unfolded just three weeks out from
an election.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Not so much the apology. I mean I do question
the timing of it.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But joining me in the studio right now is the
opposition leader Leah Finocchio.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Good morning to you, Leah.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Good morning Katie into your listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
First off, what do you make of the apology.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think everyone's really been taken by surprise on this, Katie.
There's times and places for apologies, but we're certainly very
concerned for the frontline. We know our police have not
been supported by the Labor government for a number of years,
resulting in low levels of morale and high rates of
police leaving the force. And so the fact that you
(01:51):
know the Labor government, you know, evil Law has got
to explain how long she's known about this forum, why
it wasn't communication to the public and to the police force.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, look, we are due to catch up with the
police Police Minister Brent Potter in just a couple of
moments time, so no doubt we'll ask that. But I mean,
do you agree with the apology. Do you think that
it's the right move.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, I think there's a time and place for that.
I don't think it's the priority right now. We have
a police force who've gone through a very tumultuous time.
We saw labor with the bungled sacking of the previous
Police commissioner and it certainly had a very profound impact
on the front line. We've certainly received a lot of
feedback from members feeling like this is just more blame
(02:37):
being shifted on to them, and so it's undoubtedly going
to cause and gain another period of instability and uncertainty,
which is not something we need at this time.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I suppose from the.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Other perspective, some maybe looking at this from the outside
in and going well, we are due to have the
findings handed down from a coronial inquest, which we know
throughout that coronial we have seen evidence of racism within
the Northern.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Territory Police Force.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So some may be sort of watching all of this thinking, well,
it is the right move from the Northern Territory Police
Commissioner to apologize to Indigenous people if we're ever going
to mean into the gap.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, I think it's how you handle these things, Katie.
Now we've got men and women out there on the
front line dealing with the greatest crime crisis we've ever had.
They are under resource and undersupported by the government and
I think, you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Know, we're in caretaker mode.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
The Chief Minister this morning on ABC radio said for
the last two months, you know there's been discussion, well,
you know, did she influence the Police commissioner to go
and do this?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So you think that the commissioners had political influence?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, I think the question is more to the government
around did they want him to do this because they
weren't at Gama.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So close to an election, and also the timing for
our police when they need to know, really be focusing
on dealing with the crime crisis and feeling supported.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think this is just really for a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I just want to get this straight.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Do you think that the Northern Territory Labor Party having
influenced the Police Commissioner in terms of making this apology?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I think they must have known about it, and
in which case, why wasn't this communicated to people going forward?
It came as a surprise to everybody. I've spoken to
Katie and certainly the reaction has been surprising. And then
you've got this issue of resigning from the Police Association,
which I think will further, you know, cause strain on
(04:31):
our frontline police force. And what we want is really
strong relationships a strong force going forward. They've got a
huge job to do and we fully support our police
in the task ahead of them, and you know, this
uncertainty just doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
With the move that the Police Commissioner has made.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There is no doubt that he has hoped that this
move would be a step in the right direction and
that what it's going to do is take all of
the Northern territory you know, along on this journey and
bring people together.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Do you think he's achieved that aim?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I think it's been handled badly and I really
question the role of the government in this. I mean,
it's their responsibility. This is a major statement made at
a major event.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, is that a bit disrespectful to the Police
commissioner given the fact that he is an independent public
service servant? I should say, who has to make those
decisions himself?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, the Police Commissioner can make the decisions he needs
to make. My question really is is how long has
the government known about this, and why hasn't it been
communicated this intention to the public and more importantly to
our police, who are very clearly unhappy about what's going on.
And so I think it's just more destabilization, more uncertainty,
(05:47):
and the focus really has to be about improving the
lives of Aboriginal people right across the territory, on tackling crime,
and on supporting our frontline police to be able to
deal with the enormous increase in we've experienced under labor.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, do you think though the moves that are
being made, or certainly the announcement that's been made in
terms of in this part of it's not new, but
thirty percent Indigenous workforce and some of the other measures
and some of the other things that were announced as
part of that speech, do you think that they're a
good move and a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We certainly support the increase, and the Police Association actually
said we need those really clear pathways for our Aboriginal
community police officers to be able to transition to constable
and we wholeheartedly agree with that. But what we need
to do is make sure all of our police feel
supported and you know, they're facing and have faced very
(06:41):
tough times over a significant period. We've got to make
sure they feel like they're supported and can take on
this enormous level of crime that the government has put
on them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now. In all of the coverage over the weekend, there
was a line from that speech which I've already had
listeners contact me about after reading it in an article
online on the ABA, and it's the line that sees
one police are routinely tasked with enforcing policies, laws and regulations,
both federal and here in the Northern Territory that are
often influenced by media coverage of crime, victims and community safety,
(07:15):
regardless of the data and evidence. Regardless of the data,
evidence and expert advice.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What did you make of that comment?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, I don't quite understand it myself, Katie. What we
know is that crime is out of control and we
want our police to be supported with the resources, the
personnel and the powers to be able to deal with it. Now,
if the Commissioner is saying there's the external influences that
lead police's decision making, then that's something that needs to
(07:45):
be looked at.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But I mean, do you believe that policies should be
driven by victims of crime and community safety.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, of course we.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Need regardless of the data, we absolutely need to make
people feel safe to be more victim focused.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I mean, I don't know how many times.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
On your show, Katie, I've said that this government is
putting the rights of offenders above the rights of people
to be safe.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So again I think.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
If this, you know, perhaps this is just a.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Playing Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And look, I want to say that the listeners who've
been in contact with us have said that they felt
like that was a real kick in the guts in
terms of being a victim of crime and feeling like,
you know, like, yeah, that did not sit well with Sure,
I'm not going to put words in victims of crime's mouth,
but they it didn't sit well with them. But from
the other side of that, I mean, is that really
(08:39):
a reflection from the Northern Territory Police Commissioner three weeks
out from the Northern Territory election that he's concerned that
both of our major political parties are basing policies on,
you know, on the loudest voices in the community, not
necessarily what you know, what others deem evidence based.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Is the right thing to do.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Look, I really don't know what he meant, and this
is all part of that uncertainty, and again begs the
question around what government's role in any of this was.
I think more uncertainty is not what we need, and
that is why the CLP has been very clear around
our position to give police better powers. You know, week
one of Parliament, if we have the privilege to govern
(09:19):
in August, we want to give our police better powers
to deal with alcohol, to deal with young people, community safety.
It is the number one issue and I think that's
why this direction we've seen over the last couple of
days is just not the priorities of our community.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I do want to ask you about the situation in
Woodroff because last week we spoke to residents on Emory
Avenue in Woodroff who'd been plugged by crime and anti
social behavior. Those issues culminated with the car being set alight.
The residents of this once very happy, family friendly street
are at their wits end.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Have you been out there to speak to those residents.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I haven't, but I had my team, Clinton Howe, member
of the candidate for Dry Hasdal, and Matt Kell, the
candidate for blame. We're out there at that community meeting
hearing the concerns of people on the ground, and it's
fair to say they are absolutely well and truly fed
up Katie, and so they should be Their right to
be safe and live in peace and quiet has totally
(10:15):
been ignored by the Labor government. Again, that just isn't
getting on top of issues early on, and they're escalating
into horrific scenes where we've got people not sleeping for
more than two weeks, Katie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Residents out there, so that the people causing the issues
were visitors from other communities. They say that there's JOVI
tags around the place. How are you going to stop
people from coming in from other communities and breaking the law,
Because it's not illegal obviously to travel into Darwin and
do the right thing, But if you're coming in here
and breaking the law, how are you going to stop that?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, yeah, this is a multi layered approach. So first
of all, we need to be upholding standards in territory housing.
So we have a streat three strikes through our policy.
People have had enough and so we need to be
supporting tenants who are often doing the right thing. But
the visit it as are doing the wrong thing, and
we need to be supporting tenants through strong tenancy management
(11:05):
to make sure that people doing the wrong thing are
held accountable. There Also, there needs to be consequences by
supporting our police to deal with these high levels of crime.
We can get more police out on the front line
to respond early. We don't want things escalating to the
point where there are cars burning in streets.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
We've got to be tackling these issues quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's why better powers around youths, better powers around public
drinking and problem drunks is going to stop crimes from
happening later on in the evening. We've got to be
dealing with things much earlier through high visible policing and
proactive police powers.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
All a couple of quick ones that I want to
get to. On Friday, we learned to potentially decades long
departmental bungle around the fine enforcement has left the Northern
Territory government exposed to civil litigation and a possible eye
CAC probe.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So it was revealed that the.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Process used to enforce fines and penalties was not found
to comply with legislation. Make of this situation, well, it's
just another absolute bungle you know, LAMA have been in
power nineteen of the last twenty three years. My understanding
is this is a twenty year problem that labor have
now uncovered and it just again goes to them being
(12:15):
asleep at the wheel, not having control of what's going
on across the territory. And it's you guys were in
power at one point of that as well. The SELP
was empower at one point of that. How did you
guys not notice.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well for four out of twenty three years compared to nineteen.
I think territories can make their own judgment on that.
But ultimately we're not seeing a clear pathway forward from
the government out of this mess. It's just more questions
and there are answers. Katie and the government again, it's
just trying to sweep this under the carpet and hope
that it goes away before the election.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, how can people have confidence that your party won't
also balls things like this up.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Because we are very, very committed to the future of
the territory. Katie my team have the real world and
government ex experience to rebuild the territory. We are very
focused on taking this seriously. If we get the opportunity
to govern because you know, the territory is at a
turning point. This really is a juncture where we can
have a territory continuing to go backwards, or we can
(13:14):
do things differently and drive forward.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And be a territory that we can all be proud.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You are very quick one.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
There's been reporting over the weekend that one of the
CLP's major donors has been photographed taking pulling other people's
signs down around the CBD.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What's the go here?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
My understanding of that, Katie, is that labor did not
get the permission of the land owner, and the landowner
asked the CLP to remove the labor signs, and.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So he had permission to remove those signs.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
That's correct, and you take them. I have no idea, Katie.
So we've heard this right across all of the electorates. Actually,
where labor have just put up signs on people's private
property and not sought their permission.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Is that the.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
CLP's job though to remove those signs, like I would
suggest not.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, I don't know the whole story of that, Katie,
but what I do know is that you know, labor
are out there just putting up signs on people's property
without permission, which is pretty disrespectful and ordinary.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Ask paper on next so we'll find out more about that.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Leah. We are going to have to leave it there.
We've got you back in the study on Friday. From
our leaders debates, look for you, see you Friday morning.
Thanks so much, Thanks for your time.
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