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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As we know, Parliament resumes in the Northern Territory today
and no doubt there's going to be plenty on the agenda,
but no words yet on exactly what the File's government's
going to be focusing on. But joining me in on
the line to talk more about what the opposition is
going to be focusing on, it is the opposition leader
Lea finocchi ai O.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, Leah, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Now, before we get into this week's parliamentary settings, the
Voice referendum was indeed held on the weekend and there
was a resounding no around Australia. There was though a
lot of Yes voters in our more remote communities. What
do you think this means in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think it shows that people are tired of being
ignored by Labor. Ultimately, people feel like they have a voice.
It's that they're not being listened to and that's the
critical difference and that's what Labor's missing. And even Labor's
senator has said that the Files government has stopped listening
and stop acting when it comes to to the high
(01:00):
yes vote in the Bush. I think that's absolutely symptomatic
of the fact that we've had a labor government for
eighteen of the last twenty two years and they have
been left behind by labor. And that's why the CLP
is so focused on restoring control two communities through local
government reform because it is the single biggest issue people
(01:22):
in the Bush talk to us about. And it was
labor who took away their voice, ironically in twenty eighteen
by creating super shires, and it would be the COLP
who not only listened to the community but restore decision
making and control to Aboriginal people living in the bush.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Leah, how much is it going to cost though to
have those various different smaller shires because it does seem
in theory like it could be a good idea, but
you know they were amalgamated for a reason.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, no one's been able to clearly explain the reason.
And ultimately, what's the cost of not doing this, because
we've now had fifty years where people have been totally
disempowered and all outcomes for people living in the bush
are worse. So we're in an active consultation process right
now looking at the different models and you're right, Katie,
(02:12):
there will be a cost to this. But my message
to territories is that the price for not doing this
is so much higher. It's what's required to ensure that
we have a strong territory no matter where you live,
and that we restore decision making that has been taken
away from people by labor.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What do you make though of the government saying that
they are going to continue with the treaty process. They
did indeed have an office, they did indeed go through
that treaty process in terms of the report, and then
the office was closed and nobody's one hundred percent sure
where things are at.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, it's just Natasha Fars and territory Labor continuing to
not listen to the community and they're totally tone deaf
when it comes to this issue, and they're pretending like
they're issuing treaty when they've shut the office down. They
haven't implemented any of the recommendations. But I think it's
very clear Katian, Certainly from the colp's perspective, this is
(03:09):
not a priority for territorians. This is not something that
we will be pursuing. What people want is practical outcomes
to make people's lives better, and that's why the COLP
are working so hard to ensure we have a model
of local government that delivers for Territorians no matter where
they live.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean, you've touched on it, all of those issues
that we are indeed dealing with the state of things
here in the Northern Territory. Well, it's something that a
lot of people are very concerned with, not only crime,
but issues with DV, with health, with education. What do
you think needs to happen now to try and make
some inroads here, Because we spoke to to Marian Scrimdaw
(03:50):
on the show yesterday, the Member for Lingiyari, and she
said that she is going to sit down with the
Northern Territory government that they need to start listening.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, it's extra ordinary to have their own Territory Labor
senator come out and say that Territory Labor and Natasha
Files have stopped listening and stopped acting. It's finally actually
acknowledged how Territorians are feeling. And they've been feeling like
this for a very long time, Katie. Since twenty sixteen,
when Territory Labor came to power, alcohol related assaults have
(04:22):
increased on average by fifty percent. We know that domestic
violence is up eighty percent since Labor came to power.
If you live in the territory you are three times
more likely to be assaulted or killed than if you
live in New South Wales. This is totally unacceptable. On
top of that, where in technical recession, that cost of
(04:42):
living is destroying people's lives and people are leaving the
territory in drove. So we've got a serious situation and
that's why the COLP is so focused on taking back
control of our streets, rebuilding the territory's reputation and getting
our economy moving forward because we need people to stay
and we need people to come here and we need
(05:04):
to do that by starting with restoring community safety.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We absolutely need to restore community safety.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Leah. Parliament resumes this week.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
What exactly is the opposition going to do to try
and make that happen?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So on Wednesday we have legislation that we're bringing forward
which will give greater powers to police to deal with
problem drunks. As I said, alcohol related assaults are up
fifty percent under Labor. We all know the harm that
public drinking and alcohol causes in our community, and Labor
in twenty nineteen remove powers from police so that all
(05:39):
they can do with people drinking in public is simply
tip out the alcohol if it's on the person.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But hang on the ALP say, like the Labor Party says,
and I've heard this so many times from the government
that that two kilometer law is still in place.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, Katie, And this is the great lack of scrutiny
of this government. So what they did is they kept
the name of the law there, so the two kilometer
law is still there by name only. They gutted all
of the power, so it is no longer an offense
to drink in public. All police can do now is
tip out the grog, and that's only if it's on
(06:14):
the person.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So from a practical sense, what does that actually mean?
Because again, to a lot of people listening, you know,
they're hearing you say one thing, then they're hearing the
government say no, no, no, it's still in place.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what does it mean from a real practical sense.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yep, great, and look to allay people's concerns. We've had
Combat Scarlas, the mayor of Darwin come out and say
that this law and power needs to be reinstated. I've
got the support of both the past Northern Territory Police
association president and Nathan Finn the new president. So it's
not just me saying this is required, Katie, but what
it does so currently all police can do is tip
(06:51):
out grog for people drinking in public. If the person
has just put the grog up against a tree or
says it's not theirs, police can't even tip that out.
That's how ridiculous labor have disempowered our police. What our
law does is means that police can ask for identification
of the person, which means they can then potentially check
if there's a domestic violence order in place or outstanding warrants.
(07:14):
It means that police cannot just tip out alcohol, but
also sees alcohol, they can issue fines, and it also
is a pathway to referral for the band drink Correzon, you're.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Saying right now that the police cannot do any of that.
All that they can do is tip out alcohol.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's exactly right, and you could liken it to this, Katie.
We all know speed signs on our roads. It tells
us how fast we're meant to go in a certain area.
What labor have done is essentially it's like saying, okay,
this is an eighty zone but if you're going one
hundred and an eighty zone, we actually can't really do
anything about it. You know that there's no actual consequence.
And again what Labor have done is just an erosion
(07:55):
of consequences, the removal of consequences for people doing the
wrong thing. So part of our platform is to strengthen
our community safety and that starts by strengthening powers for police.
And so this legislation is going to go directly to
the heart of police's ability to deal with problem drunks,
which caused so much destruction, antisocial behavior, domestic violence and
(08:19):
crime across our community.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So this change in legislation, if you're able to get
support from the Independence and maybe a couple of people
from the Crossbench so from the Labor Party, if it
comes into effect, what it will mean is that the police,
if there are people drinking in public, they can actually
then you know, ask them for their ID. They can
actually then potentially refer them to you to the band
(08:43):
Drinkers Register. They can also go through processes of doing
a bit of a search on them to make sure
that they don't have warrants out for their arrest or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's right, and they can also issue a fine. So
what labor have done is the is disgusted a law
and taken away it being an offense. Now, if there's
no consequence for offending, we all know as grown ups
and even children know that if you do something, there
is a consequence for that action. But unfortunately, what we've
(09:14):
seen over many years is a total removal of consequences
for people doing the wrong thing, and that is what
is resulting in negative consequences for the rest of the
community who just want to live their lives safely, peacefully.
And we've seen just I mean, even the recent events,
recent crimes in the CBDKD have been horrific and people
(09:35):
are experiencing this in their everyday lives, going to work,
leaving their home.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
How big a difference, though, do you think it's going
to make to the actual anti social and criminal behavior
that we're seeing on the streets right now? Do you
think that it would have an immediate impact.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It will have an immediate impact. And what it also
does is it's preemptive. So if police can stop crime
from happening, you know, if they can intervene early in
public drinking, it stops crime from happening later on that
day or that evening. So it has a big impact
in terms of police resourcing because if they're responding to
less crimes, it means they're able to go on and
(10:15):
do other things. It just means there's less victim so
it has a big impact. This is about stopping crime
before it happens and police need the right powers to
be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All right, So Leah, that's happening tomorrow. But you are
going to need support from some members of.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The government for this to get up, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's no question about it, Katie. And again, is the
territory Labor government listening or have they turned their back
on territories and people know, you know, territories out there.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I bring legislation to Parliament as often as I can
and Labor have shut us down every single time. But
that reflects worse on Labor than it does on us
because we're trying. We're putting forward our plan for a
safe and strong territory. People understand and respect that. If
we're elected next year, Katie, this will all become law
(11:05):
at the first sittings of Parliament and we can all
start to move on with our lives and stop thinking
every minute of the day about crime. But until that
point it's up to Labor to do their job and
as Marian Scrimdow has said, start listening and start acting
or face the consequences at the ballot box.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well zero four double nine seven double one three six
zero is the TECHT line.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Love to hear from our listeners this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Do you think that this change, if the CLP is
able to get it up tomorrow in Parliament, is it
going to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you think that it would have an immediate impact?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Love to hear your thoughts now, Liah today, though I
understand that the CLP is bringing forward a matter of
public importance, what's it about?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So Territory Labor and Natasha Files have shown time and
time again that they've failed to listen and failed to act.
We have a Labor senator breaking ranks and saying that
this government has totally walked away from the community, and
so we will be pushing that in Parliament this afternoon.
We know that crime is through the roof, We know
our economy is going backwards. Our public education system is
(12:12):
in disarray, with twenty eight teachers we're injured this year
and twenty five teachers injured last year. So there are
plenty of issues across the territory where labor have just
closed their mind, they're out of ideas, they're out of
touch and they are just not listening. And that's what
we're going to be putting forward today.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And so with that matter of public importance again for
our listeners, because you know, a lot of us don't
sit in or a lot of them don't sit and
listen to Parliament the whole day. How exactly is that
going to work. Once that's presented or once that's brought forward,
everybody has to discuss it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So what happens the matter of public importance is only
debated at the end of the day, So when government
finished talking about their bushfire's statement, then that MPI will
come on. It then goes for two hours, so any
member of Parliament who wants to contribute can stand up
and contribute to a maximum debate of two hours long.
So that will be at the end of the day, Katie,
(13:07):
but we will certainly be making a case on why
this government focused on all the wrong things, and even
the debate on the voice Katie, to go back to
a very topical point. I mean this government spent so
much time campaigning on the voice and really showed that
they had not listening to what the community really wants,
which is practical outcomes, practical policies, and they just want
(13:28):
to be heard on the issues that are most important
for them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Just on alcohol. I want to go back to that
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Obviously you're talking about and bringing forward this legislation tomorrow
for the two kilometer law or two kilometer rule. What
about you know, what about the situation that we're finding
a lot of our corner stores in at this point
in time where they're actually having to close for a
couple of days throughout the week because they're going over
that cap that they've been that they have been forced
(13:56):
to implement.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, we have stood show to shoulder with corner stores
over this entire period since twenty nineteen when government of
the Labor government changed the laws. It is ridiculous to
penalize mom and dad businesses who one hundred percent employ local.
So these corner stores are all owned locally, all the
money stays local, all the jobs are local. They sell
(14:21):
a comparatively minuscule amount of alcohol compared to the big
bottle shops. Your lick Lands, your BWSS, et cetera. And
yet this government under Natasha Files is going after them
saying you can only sell twenty five percent of your takings.
It can only be attributed to selling alcohol, which is
ridiculous because if someone is going to their local corner store,
(14:43):
they might pick up a hot chilk and a loaf
of bread and then go grab a carton of beer.
The cost of alcohol is so much more so they
have to For example of you, if every carton of
beer sold at a supermarket, they have to run one
hundred and fifty dollars through the till in grocery to
be able to keep that balance. It's just not possible
(15:03):
because people don't use their corner stores like that. So
we stand with our corner stores who don't want to
level playing field like everybody else and actually have serious
commitment to our community because of their local ownership and
of course their local levels of employment.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, Leah Finocchio, the opposition leader, we will leave it there.
I'm interested to hear exactly what happens today with that
matter of public importance and also tomorrow with the alcohol legislation.
Thank you very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Thank you and take care
As we know, Parliament resumes in the Northern Territory today
and no doubt there's going to be plenty on the agenda,
but no words yet on exactly what the File's government's
going to be focusing on. But joining me in on
the line to talk more about what the opposition is
going to be focusing on, it is the opposition leader
Lea finocchi ai O.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, Leah, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Now, before we get into this week's parliamentary settings, the
Voice referendum was indeed held on the weekend and there
was a resounding no around Australia. There was though a
lot of Yes voters in our more remote communities. What
do you think this means in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think it shows that people are tired of being
ignored by Labor. Ultimately, people feel like they have a voice.
It's that they're not being listened to and that's the
critical difference and that's what Labor's missing. And even Labor's
senator has said that the Files government has stopped listening
and stop acting when it comes to to the high
(01:00):
yes vote in the Bush. I think that's absolutely symptomatic
of the fact that we've had a labor government for
eighteen of the last twenty two years and they have
been left behind by labor. And that's why the CLP
is so focused on restoring control two communities through local
government reform because it is the single biggest issue people
(01:22):
in the Bush talk to us about. And it was
labor who took away their voice, ironically in twenty eighteen
by creating super shires, and it would be the COLP
who not only listened to the community but restore decision
making and control to Aboriginal people living in the bush.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Leah, how much is it going to cost though to
have those various different smaller shires because it does seem
in theory like it could be a good idea, but
you know they were amalgamated for a reason.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, no one's been able to clearly explain the reason.
And ultimately, what's the cost of not doing this, because
we've now had fifty years where people have been totally
disempowered and all outcomes for people living in the bush
are worse. So we're in an active consultation process right
now looking at the different models and you're right, Katie,
(02:12):
there will be a cost to this. But my message
to territories is that the price for not doing this
is so much higher. It's what's required to ensure that
we have a strong territory no matter where you live,
and that we restore decision making that has been taken
away from people by labor.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
What do you make though of the government saying that
they are going to continue with the treaty process. They
did indeed have an office, they did indeed go through
that treaty process in terms of the report, and then
the office was closed and nobody's one hundred percent sure
where things are at.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, it's just Natasha Fars and territory Labor continuing to
not listen to the community and they're totally tone deaf
when it comes to this issue, and they're pretending like
they're issuing treaty when they've shut the office down. They
haven't implemented any of the recommendations. But I think it's
very clear Katian, Certainly from the colp's perspective, this is
(03:09):
not a priority for territorians. This is not something that
we will be pursuing. What people want is practical outcomes
to make people's lives better, and that's why the COLP
are working so hard to ensure we have a model
of local government that delivers for Territorians no matter where
they live.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean, you've touched on it, all of those issues
that we are indeed dealing with the state of things
here in the Northern Territory. Well, it's something that a
lot of people are very concerned with, not only crime,
but issues with DV, with health, with education. What do
you think needs to happen now to try and make
some inroads here, Because we spoke to to Marian Scrimdaw
(03:50):
on the show yesterday, the Member for Lingiyari, and she
said that she is going to sit down with the
Northern Territory government that they need to start listening.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, it's extra ordinary to have their own Territory Labor
senator come out and say that Territory Labor and Natasha
Files have stopped listening and stopped acting. It's finally actually
acknowledged how Territorians are feeling. And they've been feeling like
this for a very long time, Katie. Since twenty sixteen,
when Territory Labor came to power, alcohol related assaults have
(04:22):
increased on average by fifty percent. We know that domestic
violence is up eighty percent since Labor came to power.
If you live in the territory you are three times
more likely to be assaulted or killed than if you
live in New South Wales. This is totally unacceptable. On
top of that, where in technical recession, that cost of
(04:42):
living is destroying people's lives and people are leaving the
territory in drove. So we've got a serious situation and
that's why the COLP is so focused on taking back
control of our streets, rebuilding the territory's reputation and getting
our economy moving forward because we need people to stay
and we need people to come here and we need
(05:04):
to do that by starting with restoring community safety.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We absolutely need to restore community safety.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Leah. Parliament resumes this week.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
What exactly is the opposition going to do to try
and make that happen?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So on Wednesday we have legislation that we're bringing forward
which will give greater powers to police to deal with
problem drunks. As I said, alcohol related assaults are up
fifty percent under Labor. We all know the harm that
public drinking and alcohol causes in our community, and Labor
in twenty nineteen remove powers from police so that all
(05:39):
they can do with people drinking in public is simply
tip out the alcohol if it's on the person.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But hang on the ALP say, like the Labor Party says,
and I've heard this so many times from the government
that that two kilometer law is still in place.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, Katie, And this is the great lack of scrutiny
of this government. So what they did is they kept
the name of the law there, so the two kilometer
law is still there by name only. They gutted all
of the power, so it is no longer an offense
to drink in public. All police can do now is
tip out the grog, and that's only if it's on
(06:14):
the person.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So from a practical sense, what does that actually mean?
Because again, to a lot of people listening, you know,
they're hearing you say one thing, then they're hearing the
government say no, no, no, it's still in place.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what does it mean from a real practical sense.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yep, great, and look to allay people's concerns. We've had
Combat Scarlas, the mayor of Darwin come out and say
that this law and power needs to be reinstated. I've
got the support of both the past Northern Territory Police
association president and Nathan Finn the new president. So it's
not just me saying this is required, Katie, but what
it does so currently all police can do is tip
(06:51):
out grog for people drinking in public. If the person
has just put the grog up against a tree or
says it's not theirs, police can't even tip that out.
That's how ridiculous labor have disempowered our police. What our
law does is means that police can ask for identification
of the person, which means they can then potentially check
if there's a domestic violence order in place or outstanding warrants.
(07:14):
It means that police cannot just tip out alcohol, but
also sees alcohol, they can issue fines, and it also
is a pathway to referral for the band drink Correzon, you're.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Saying right now that the police cannot do any of that.
All that they can do is tip out alcohol.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's exactly right, and you could liken it to this, Katie.
We all know speed signs on our roads. It tells
us how fast we're meant to go in a certain area.
What labor have done is essentially it's like saying, okay,
this is an eighty zone but if you're going one
hundred and an eighty zone, we actually can't really do
anything about it. You know that there's no actual consequence.
And again what Labor have done is just an erosion
(07:55):
of consequences, the removal of consequences for people doing the
wrong thing. So part of our platform is to strengthen
our community safety and that starts by strengthening powers for police.
And so this legislation is going to go directly to
the heart of police's ability to deal with problem drunks,
which caused so much destruction, antisocial behavior, domestic violence and
(08:19):
crime across our community.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So this change in legislation, if you're able to get
support from the Independence and maybe a couple of people
from the Crossbench so from the Labor Party, if it
comes into effect, what it will mean is that the police,
if there are people drinking in public, they can actually
then you know, ask them for their ID. They can
actually then potentially refer them to you to the band
(08:43):
Drinkers Register. They can also go through processes of doing
a bit of a search on them to make sure
that they don't have warrants out for their arrest or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's right, and they can also issue a fine. So
what labor have done is the is disgusted a law
and taken away it being an offense. Now, if there's
no consequence for offending, we all know as grown ups
and even children know that if you do something, there
is a consequence for that action. But unfortunately, what we've
(09:14):
seen over many years is a total removal of consequences
for people doing the wrong thing, and that is what
is resulting in negative consequences for the rest of the
community who just want to live their lives safely, peacefully.
And we've seen just I mean, even the recent events,
recent crimes in the CBDKD have been horrific and people
(09:35):
are experiencing this in their everyday lives, going to work,
leaving their home.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
How big a difference, though, do you think it's going
to make to the actual anti social and criminal behavior
that we're seeing on the streets right now? Do you
think that it would have an immediate impact.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It will have an immediate impact. And what it also
does is it's preemptive. So if police can stop crime
from happening, you know, if they can intervene early in
public drinking, it stops crime from happening later on that
day or that evening. So it has a big impact
in terms of police resourcing because if they're responding to
less crimes, it means they're able to go on and
(10:15):
do other things. It just means there's less victim so
it has a big impact. This is about stopping crime
before it happens and police need the right powers to
be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All right, So Leah, that's happening tomorrow. But you are
going to need support from some members of.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The government for this to get up, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's no question about it, Katie. And again, is the
territory Labor government listening or have they turned their back
on territories and people know, you know, territories out there.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I bring legislation to Parliament as often as I can
and Labor have shut us down every single time. But
that reflects worse on Labor than it does on us
because we're trying. We're putting forward our plan for a
safe and strong territory. People understand and respect that. If
we're elected next year, Katie, this will all become law
(11:05):
at the first sittings of Parliament and we can all
start to move on with our lives and stop thinking
every minute of the day about crime. But until that
point it's up to Labor to do their job and
as Marian Scrimdow has said, start listening and start acting
or face the consequences at the ballot box.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well zero four double nine seven double one three six
zero is the TECHT line.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Love to hear from our listeners this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Do you think that this change, if the CLP is
able to get it up tomorrow in Parliament, is it
going to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you think that it would have an immediate impact?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Love to hear your thoughts now, Liah today, though I
understand that the CLP is bringing forward a matter of
public importance, what's it about?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So Territory Labor and Natasha Files have shown time and
time again that they've failed to listen and failed to act.
We have a Labor senator breaking ranks and saying that
this government has totally walked away from the community, and
so we will be pushing that in Parliament this afternoon.
We know that crime is through the roof, We know
our economy is going backwards. Our public education system is
(12:12):
in disarray, with twenty eight teachers we're injured this year
and twenty five teachers injured last year. So there are
plenty of issues across the territory where labor have just
closed their mind, they're out of ideas, they're out of
touch and they are just not listening. And that's what
we're going to be putting forward today.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And so with that matter of public importance again for
our listeners, because you know, a lot of us don't
sit in or a lot of them don't sit and
listen to Parliament the whole day. How exactly is that
going to work. Once that's presented or once that's brought forward,
everybody has to discuss it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So what happens the matter of public importance is only
debated at the end of the day, So when government
finished talking about their bushfire's statement, then that MPI will
come on. It then goes for two hours, so any
member of Parliament who wants to contribute can stand up
and contribute to a maximum debate of two hours long.
So that will be at the end of the day, Katie,
(13:07):
but we will certainly be making a case on why
this government focused on all the wrong things, and even
the debate on the voice Katie, to go back to
a very topical point. I mean this government spent so
much time campaigning on the voice and really showed that
they had not listening to what the community really wants,
which is practical outcomes, practical policies, and they just want
(13:28):
to be heard on the issues that are most important
for them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Just on alcohol. I want to go back to that
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Obviously you're talking about and bringing forward this legislation tomorrow
for the two kilometer law or two kilometer rule. What
about you know, what about the situation that we're finding
a lot of our corner stores in at this point
in time where they're actually having to close for a
couple of days throughout the week because they're going over
that cap that they've been that they have been forced
(13:56):
to implement.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, we have stood show to shoulder with corner stores
over this entire period since twenty nineteen when government of
the Labor government changed the laws. It is ridiculous to
penalize mom and dad businesses who one hundred percent employ local.
So these corner stores are all owned locally, all the
money stays local, all the jobs are local. They sell
(14:21):
a comparatively minuscule amount of alcohol compared to the big
bottle shops. Your lick Lands, your BWSS, et cetera. And
yet this government under Natasha Files is going after them
saying you can only sell twenty five percent of your takings.
It can only be attributed to selling alcohol, which is
ridiculous because if someone is going to their local corner store,
(14:43):
they might pick up a hot chilk and a loaf
of bread and then go grab a carton of beer.
The cost of alcohol is so much more so they
have to For example of you, if every carton of
beer sold at a supermarket, they have to run one
hundred and fifty dollars through the till in grocery to
be able to keep that balance. It's just not possible
(15:03):
because people don't use their corner stores like that. So
we stand with our corner stores who don't want to
level playing field like everybody else and actually have serious
commitment to our community because of their local ownership and
of course their local levels of employment.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, Leah Finocchio, the opposition leader, we will leave it there.
I'm interested to hear exactly what happens today with that
matter of public importance and also tomorrow with the alcohol legislation.
Thank you very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Thank you and take care
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