June 1, 2026 • 14 mins
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
We know that it had been reported that there'd been
a fatal crash outside of Catherine, but we now have
confirmation from the Northern Territory Police that they're investigating a
series of alleged vehicle thefts overnight that resulted in that
fatal crash in Catherine this morning. So at about ten
point thirty yesterday, police received reports of an unlawful entry
(00:21):
at a property on zim And Drive where that vehicle
was allegedly stolen. It's then alleged the occupants subsequently traveled
to Charles Dalwin University in Catherine, where that vehicle was
abandoned before two others were stolen. Throughout the evening, the
vehicle was observed driving erratically through Catherine CBD. The occupants
allegedly attempted to provoke police by baiting police vehicles and
(00:43):
throwing objects at the offices, resulting in damage to a
police car. Now, due to the dangerous manner of driving,
the police didn't engage in a pursuit. At about six
o'clock this morning, one of the stolen vehicles was involved
in a single vehicle rollover on the Show Stuart Highway,
just north of the Catherine CBD emergency services attended the scene,
(01:05):
where three fourteen year old dudes were conveyed to hospital
and a sixteen year old male sustained critical injuries and
despite the efforts of paramedics, was declared deceased at the scene.
Now we know a crime scene's been established. Sections of
the Stuart Highway remain closed while those investigations continue. Motorists
should expect delays in the area throughout this morning. Joining
(01:28):
me in the studio right now is the Opposition leader
Selena Ubo. Good morning to you, Selena. Morning Katie, Selena.
This is very much breaking news. We did know that
there'd been sadly a fatal crash on the Stuart Highway.
We're now getting that further detail. I would imagine the
people of Catherine are going to be pretty shocked to
hear this news from overnight and from the early hours
(01:51):
of this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, Katie, I'm shocked hearing it today as well. I
did hear about the accident. I'm due to go home
tomorrow and you know, thinking about road US of course,
making sure you'dhere to those safety warnings and unfortunately, if
the road is blocked off, it may be blocked for
some time. But if someone's lost their life, then of
course the police have to do their job and investigate
that feeling for Catherine and you know, again another set
(02:16):
of circumstances where people really want to see that support
and that help and that assistance.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's an issue that we've been speaking about for a
number of weeks now, the concerns around crime in Catherine. Now,
no one can foresee that this kind of thing is
going to happen, but you know, I've said it for
years on this show. The really frightening thing when young
people steal cars is that it's not only a danger
to other road users, but it's a danger to themselves.
(02:41):
And then what we've seen unfold and you know, still
waiting for the police to put together all of those details.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But it is horrific.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's a horrific incident to now see happen. I mean,
like I said from the get go, the people of
Catherine have been really worried about crime for it some time.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now they really have Katie, and I think people in
Catherine aren't sitting back and winging. What they want to
see is practical solutions. They want to see real support
for the township but also the region because obviously it's
the heart of the Big Rivers region. My elector to
Varnam goes to basically the big portion to the we'd
say the left of the High or so the right
(03:21):
of the High, depending which way you're coming from.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So you know, Catherine is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Critical to a lot of the services that are delivered
in the Big Rivers region, particularly for my constituents of Arnhem.
But in terms of what people have been asking for,
it's the extra support, it's local solutions, it's you know,
those resources. And I've got some friends who are police
officers in Catherine and Katie I know, do they do
a bloody good job too. They're under difficult circumstances, as
(03:45):
are all of our police across the NT. But Catherine
is asking for a little bit of that extra attention
and that support at the moment. We heard Mayor Joanna
Holden speak out a couple of weeks ago, and I
think very articulately, very passionately with that solutions focus, not
a winge. It was about solutions, you know, particularly asking
the anti government, the Chief Minister Lea for Nookiaro to
(04:07):
come to Catherine to meet with community members, with business owners,
with young people, with families to see what it is
that we can offer as a whole, as a collective,
as a community when it comes to looking at better
solutions for crime and antisocial and law.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And order and community safety.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And we've had locals saying to us woollfee, there are
teenagers that are running a mark at nighttime.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I've heard that too, Katie. You know, obviously I'm in
and out. I live in Catherine. I don't represent it,
but I'm in and out of Catherine. My family's there.
And I've spoken to friends and like, kids are just
running a mark And I'm like, what's the trigger? And
I think you asked me a few weeks ago as well.
But trying to understand that. But there are people in Catherine,
leaders in Catherine who are speaking up for the community.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
We just need that extra help.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So if something like the Chief Minister coming down and
having a series of round tables is going to support
the community, just do it, Like, just look at those
practical ideas that people want to see, implement try things
in a different way. I've had people present community driven proposals, which,
to be honest, I don't think the seal Pick government's
listened at all. Let's have a look at those proposals again.
(05:15):
Let's see if we can do things differently and better
in Catherine. So it's not just the police dealing with,
you know, the horrific end of what happens when things
go wrong. Let's look at the preventative measures in the community.
We've got some great businesses in the community who've implemented
some of their own solutions. Can we scale that up
and if not, why, and then have a look at
that as a.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Collective opposition leader. Let's move along because there's a bit
to cover off. There always is. Now we know that
yesterday on the show, we learned the Northern Territory governments
declared the ARA if You're a Rare Earth's one point
six billion dollar Nolan's project the first significant project under
the Territory Coordinator Act. Now I know that the opposition
had previously held concerns about this legislation around the Territory
(05:56):
Coordinator when it had passed. Do you think this announcement though,
he's a good move.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think the Nolan Swear Earth project is great for
the territory. It's been in the works for quite a
few years.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Katie. I think most territories would know that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Anyone would think that Leefanokiera put the shovel in the
ground and started herself.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The way that she talks, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Quite amusing she's claiming all of that. But in terms
of a good project for the territory, our labor opposition
supports it. We did in government, we continue to do
that in opposition. But in terms of the Territory Coordinator,
we haven't seen still in that role from that Territory
Coordinator office and the Territory Coordinator himself, any new projects
in the territory. The idea that there is an established
(06:37):
office to look at economic growth and economic prosperity in
the territory in the short, medium and future of the
territory's economy, and we still don't have any new projects.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So declaring an existing project is not a new project.
I was going to say, I guess.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
The argument would be that there was so much criticism
of the former government that you guys couldn't get one
out of the ground either, So you know, maybe what
is needed to be able to get these projects actually
moving rather than just talking about them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's a great question because I don't actually think he's
done anything because the project was going along. They've been
progressing in this in the final investment decision as per
the normal process of any project here in the territory.
And then a project that's nearing completion hopefully will come
to fruition, has been declared a significant project. So in
my mind that doesn't help us grow the territory's economy.
(07:29):
That project's already happening in the territory. What we would
like to see, Katie, is new project. But I think again,
what we're not seeing is a vision from the Chief
Minister Lifanocchio, a vision from the Treasurer. So we're talking
about growing what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But I know we've spoken to the Minerals Council in
the past, for example, and others who had said that
the legislation that the former government had made had hamstrung
some of those projects being able to get off the ground,
particularly in the mining space. So you must acknowledge that
you know, at least this looks as oh, it's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, it always looked like it was going to happen
in my eyes. I mean, like I said, we've supported
it formally when Labor was in government. We continue to
support it now that Labor's in opposition. I would like
to see a vision for the future of the economy.
That's pretty much what the territory has been promised from
the COLP under Lea Finocchiaro.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We are not getting that with Leah and her team.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And if the Territory Coordinator has been installed in a
position to grow the territory's economy, let's see the projects
that are going to grow the economy, not the ones
that are already in train and ready to come to
fruition by themselves.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right, I want to move along. There was a
topic that we spoke about again yesterday that really again
it's another one that's been bubbling along for a couple
of weeks, and that's some of the issues that we've got,
like with public and social housing around the Northern Territory.
The Chief Minister had said yesterday that there's a density
review underway, like a public housing density review underway. Do
(08:52):
you reckon that's the answer? I mean, do we need
public housing scattered rather than some of the high density
that we are seeing in urban areas well.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I think there's two parts of that, Katie.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And when Labor was in government, we dedentified some areas
that were of concern historically, of concern in terms of
dense populations in public housing. Most people would be familiar
with the Narrows and the changes that we did there
many many years ago before my time. You know Karingo Flats,
you know the changes there, and that's now become an
(09:23):
affordable housing a state, which is great news for Darwin
and for workers in particular, and for families and single
people who getting their foot in the door and having
that extra support to get into the housing market. I
think we need more projects like that. We need more
affordable housing. And when I say affordable, Katie, we're talking
about our cafe baristas, our hairdressers, our apprentices, you know,
(09:45):
those who earning too much to be in public housing,
but not enough to necessarily get a foot in the
door in the private market. We need some more urban housing.
At the moment, we're not seeing any growth in the
urban housing space for affordable housing in the territory. I've
met with people like Master Builders, NTE and some of
the construction workers and businesses in the territory. They would
love to be busy with those type of projects because
(10:08):
who's going to serve our coffees in the cafe, if
we don't have those people who are working and doing
a great job but also need to be looked after
with housing access. So I think there's a big missing piece,
particularly in Darwin and Palmerston as our largest populations in
the territory. And we again, you know, we're not hearing
any plans around that from the COLP. That's an area
(10:28):
where I think there could be opportunity for growth construction
for our territory businesses, but looking after our workers and
our families in that middle bracket.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Selena, one of our listeners, Joy Cardonno got in contact
with us yesterday. She's got some serious concerns. Well, a
family member of hers does as well, writing to various
people and really getting no response when it comes to
really bad tenants nearby public housing tenants, you know, nearby.
She's hoping that maybe you'll try and advocate for the
(10:56):
good public housing tenants who want to see the bad
ones moved. Is that something that you'd take up?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I actually bumped into Joy funnily enough, this is
not a setup, by the way, on Sunday evening and
she did speak about the talked with the family member
who I know about some of the horrific incidents is
that they are dealing with They've just got a.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
New baby as well as family.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They want to see, you know, their baby and their
family grow and prosper. But they are really struggling with
their neighbors, their public housing tenners themselves, but they're struggling
with some of the neighbors who are not presenting in
the way that you would expect.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Good tell And this.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Is one of the things that upsets me right about
public housing is that there are people with the genuine,
genuine need for public housing for whatever reason, and they
look after that house like it's their own, and they
care for it. They do the right thing. But then
you've got others that do not. And you know, whether
it's right or wrong, public housing is a privileged it's
(11:53):
not a right, and we need to make sure that
people are actually looking after that public housing. So I'm
pleased to hear that you had a discussion with your and.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I've offered her family member to send me all the information.
They've written to the Health sorry, the Health Missress, also
the Housing Minister, Steve Edgington. They've written to their local member.
They've written to various people and they haven't got a response.
So I said, well, just send it all to me.
I'll write it through obvishe. I'm the leader of the opposition.
That's my job to advocate for Territorians. I'll put it through.
(12:21):
Let's see if we can get you a quicker response
or a direct response. I'm very comfortable to do that.
But ultimately, if people are bringing these issues to the
attention of either their local member, the government minister and
the department, you think that they should get a response
first and foremost, but then hopefully a solution and some
type of action would be great.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Selena, before I let you go, we spoke about this
last week, but more polling on one nation right this time.
Now they look like they are a real chance. They're
nudging ahead. They're not just taking liberal votes, they're taking
labor votes as well. I mean, what do you make
of all of this.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I did look at some of that polling last night.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I looked at quite a few different sources across the
nation around that. I think here in the territory it
will be a big concern and I think particularly for
the COLP. So I don't think the Chief Minister should
dismiss that at all.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But for us as Labor.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We want to make sure that we've got those key
priorities when we're addressing some of those issues that territories
want us to represent. That's our big focus is getting
on the job in opposition. We don't want to just
be opposition for position sake. We want to be constructive
and come twenty twenty eight, k do we want to
show that we're an old to just.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Preference each other rather than one nation.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
If it came down to that, I cannot comment on
that right now. It would be very interesting times. But
they are here in the territory. One nation is here
in the territory. We do know that had we've seen
a candidate in previous elections. So but for us as Labor,
we want to get on with the job. We want
to make sure we show territorians what we're about, our values,
what we can offer and of course win that trust
(13:56):
and win those votes for labor.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Selena Ubo, always good to with you. Appreciate you coming
into the studio this morning. We'll catch up with your son.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Thank you so much. Thank you
We know that it had been reported that there'd been
a fatal crash outside of Catherine, but we now have
confirmation from the Northern Territory Police that they're investigating a
series of alleged vehicle thefts overnight that resulted in that
fatal crash in Catherine this morning. So at about ten
point thirty yesterday, police received reports of an unlawful entry
(00:21):
at a property on zim And Drive where that vehicle
was allegedly stolen. It's then alleged the occupants subsequently traveled
to Charles Dalwin University in Catherine, where that vehicle was
abandoned before two others were stolen. Throughout the evening, the
vehicle was observed driving erratically through Catherine CBD. The occupants
allegedly attempted to provoke police by baiting police vehicles and
(00:43):
throwing objects at the offices, resulting in damage to a
police car. Now, due to the dangerous manner of driving,
the police didn't engage in a pursuit. At about six
o'clock this morning, one of the stolen vehicles was involved
in a single vehicle rollover on the Show Stuart Highway,
just north of the Catherine CBD emergency services attended the scene,
(01:05):
where three fourteen year old dudes were conveyed to hospital
and a sixteen year old male sustained critical injuries and
despite the efforts of paramedics, was declared deceased at the scene.
Now we know a crime scene's been established. Sections of
the Stuart Highway remain closed while those investigations continue. Motorists
should expect delays in the area throughout this morning. Joining
(01:28):
me in the studio right now is the Opposition leader
Selena Ubo. Good morning to you, Selena. Morning Katie, Selena.
This is very much breaking news. We did know that
there'd been sadly a fatal crash on the Stuart Highway.
We're now getting that further detail. I would imagine the
people of Catherine are going to be pretty shocked to
hear this news from overnight and from the early hours
(01:51):
of this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, Katie, I'm shocked hearing it today as well. I
did hear about the accident. I'm due to go home
tomorrow and you know, thinking about road US of course,
making sure you'dhere to those safety warnings and unfortunately, if
the road is blocked off, it may be blocked for
some time. But if someone's lost their life, then of
course the police have to do their job and investigate
that feeling for Catherine and you know, again another set
(02:16):
of circumstances where people really want to see that support
and that help and that assistance.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's an issue that we've been speaking about for a
number of weeks now, the concerns around crime in Catherine. Now,
no one can foresee that this kind of thing is
going to happen, but you know, I've said it for
years on this show. The really frightening thing when young
people steal cars is that it's not only a danger
to other road users, but it's a danger to themselves.
(02:41):
And then what we've seen unfold and you know, still
waiting for the police to put together all of those details.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But it is horrific.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's a horrific incident to now see happen. I mean,
like I said from the get go, the people of
Catherine have been really worried about crime for it some time.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now they really have Katie, and I think people in
Catherine aren't sitting back and winging. What they want to
see is practical solutions. They want to see real support
for the township but also the region because obviously it's
the heart of the Big Rivers region. My elector to
Varnam goes to basically the big portion to the we'd
say the left of the High or so the right
(03:21):
of the High, depending which way you're coming from.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So you know, Catherine is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Critical to a lot of the services that are delivered
in the Big Rivers region, particularly for my constituents of Arnhem.
But in terms of what people have been asking for,
it's the extra support, it's local solutions, it's you know,
those resources. And I've got some friends who are police
officers in Catherine and Katie I know, do they do
a bloody good job too. They're under difficult circumstances, as
(03:45):
are all of our police across the NT. But Catherine
is asking for a little bit of that extra attention
and that support at the moment. We heard Mayor Joanna
Holden speak out a couple of weeks ago, and I
think very articulately, very passionately with that solutions focus, not
a winge. It was about solutions, you know, particularly asking
the anti government, the Chief Minister Lea for Nookiaro to
(04:07):
come to Catherine to meet with community members, with business owners,
with young people, with families to see what it is
that we can offer as a whole, as a collective,
as a community when it comes to looking at better
solutions for crime and antisocial and law.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And order and community safety.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And we've had locals saying to us woollfee, there are
teenagers that are running a mark at nighttime.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I've heard that too, Katie. You know, obviously I'm in
and out. I live in Catherine. I don't represent it,
but I'm in and out of Catherine. My family's there.
And I've spoken to friends and like, kids are just
running a mark And I'm like, what's the trigger? And
I think you asked me a few weeks ago as well.
But trying to understand that. But there are people in Catherine,
leaders in Catherine who are speaking up for the community.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
We just need that extra help.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So if something like the Chief Minister coming down and
having a series of round tables is going to support
the community, just do it, Like, just look at those
practical ideas that people want to see, implement try things
in a different way. I've had people present community driven proposals, which,
to be honest, I don't think the seal Pick government's
listened at all. Let's have a look at those proposals again.
(05:15):
Let's see if we can do things differently and better
in Catherine. So it's not just the police dealing with,
you know, the horrific end of what happens when things
go wrong. Let's look at the preventative measures in the community.
We've got some great businesses in the community who've implemented
some of their own solutions. Can we scale that up
and if not, why, and then have a look at
that as a.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Collective opposition leader. Let's move along because there's a bit
to cover off. There always is. Now we know that
yesterday on the show, we learned the Northern Territory governments
declared the ARA if You're a Rare Earth's one point
six billion dollar Nolan's project the first significant project under
the Territory Coordinator Act. Now I know that the opposition
had previously held concerns about this legislation around the Territory
(05:56):
Coordinator when it had passed. Do you think this announcement though,
he's a good move.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think the Nolan Swear Earth project is great for
the territory. It's been in the works for quite a
few years.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Katie. I think most territories would know that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Anyone would think that Leefanokiera put the shovel in the
ground and started herself.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The way that she talks, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Quite amusing she's claiming all of that. But in terms
of a good project for the territory, our labor opposition
supports it. We did in government, we continue to do
that in opposition. But in terms of the Territory Coordinator,
we haven't seen still in that role from that Territory
Coordinator office and the Territory Coordinator himself, any new projects
in the territory. The idea that there is an established
(06:37):
office to look at economic growth and economic prosperity in
the territory in the short, medium and future of the
territory's economy, and we still don't have any new projects.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So declaring an existing project is not a new project.
I was going to say, I guess.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
The argument would be that there was so much criticism
of the former government that you guys couldn't get one
out of the ground either, So you know, maybe what
is needed to be able to get these projects actually
moving rather than just talking about them.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's a great question because I don't actually think he's
done anything because the project was going along. They've been
progressing in this in the final investment decision as per
the normal process of any project here in the territory.
And then a project that's nearing completion hopefully will come
to fruition, has been declared a significant project. So in
my mind that doesn't help us grow the territory's economy.
(07:29):
That project's already happening in the territory. What we would
like to see, Katie, is new project. But I think again,
what we're not seeing is a vision from the Chief
Minister Lifanocchio, a vision from the Treasurer. So we're talking
about growing what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But I know we've spoken to the Minerals Council in
the past, for example, and others who had said that
the legislation that the former government had made had hamstrung
some of those projects being able to get off the ground,
particularly in the mining space. So you must acknowledge that
you know, at least this looks as oh, it's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, it always looked like it was going to happen
in my eyes. I mean, like I said, we've supported
it formally when Labor was in government. We continue to
support it now that Labor's in opposition. I would like
to see a vision for the future of the economy.
That's pretty much what the territory has been promised from
the COLP under Lea Finocchiaro.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We are not getting that with Leah and her team.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And if the Territory Coordinator has been installed in a
position to grow the territory's economy, let's see the projects
that are going to grow the economy, not the ones
that are already in train and ready to come to
fruition by themselves.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right, I want to move along. There was a
topic that we spoke about again yesterday that really again
it's another one that's been bubbling along for a couple
of weeks, and that's some of the issues that we've got,
like with public and social housing around the Northern Territory.
The Chief Minister had said yesterday that there's a density
review underway, like a public housing density review underway. Do
(08:52):
you reckon that's the answer? I mean, do we need
public housing scattered rather than some of the high density
that we are seeing in urban areas well.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I think there's two parts of that, Katie.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And when Labor was in government, we dedentified some areas
that were of concern historically, of concern in terms of
dense populations in public housing. Most people would be familiar
with the Narrows and the changes that we did there
many many years ago before my time. You know Karingo Flats,
you know the changes there, and that's now become an
(09:23):
affordable housing a state, which is great news for Darwin
and for workers in particular, and for families and single
people who getting their foot in the door and having
that extra support to get into the housing market. I
think we need more projects like that. We need more
affordable housing. And when I say affordable, Katie, we're talking
about our cafe baristas, our hairdressers, our apprentices, you know,
(09:45):
those who earning too much to be in public housing,
but not enough to necessarily get a foot in the
door in the private market. We need some more urban housing.
At the moment, we're not seeing any growth in the
urban housing space for affordable housing in the territory. I've
met with people like Master Builders, NTE and some of
the construction workers and businesses in the territory. They would
love to be busy with those type of projects because
(10:08):
who's going to serve our coffees in the cafe, if
we don't have those people who are working and doing
a great job but also need to be looked after
with housing access. So I think there's a big missing piece,
particularly in Darwin and Palmerston as our largest populations in
the territory. And we again, you know, we're not hearing
any plans around that from the COLP. That's an area
(10:28):
where I think there could be opportunity for growth construction
for our territory businesses, but looking after our workers and
our families in that middle bracket.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Selena, one of our listeners, Joy Cardonno got in contact
with us yesterday. She's got some serious concerns. Well, a
family member of hers does as well, writing to various
people and really getting no response when it comes to
really bad tenants nearby public housing tenants, you know, nearby.
She's hoping that maybe you'll try and advocate for the
(10:56):
good public housing tenants who want to see the bad
ones moved. Is that something that you'd take up?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I actually bumped into Joy funnily enough, this is
not a setup, by the way, on Sunday evening and
she did speak about the talked with the family member
who I know about some of the horrific incidents is
that they are dealing with They've just got a.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
New baby as well as family.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They want to see, you know, their baby and their
family grow and prosper. But they are really struggling with
their neighbors, their public housing tenners themselves, but they're struggling
with some of the neighbors who are not presenting in
the way that you would expect.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Good tell And this.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Is one of the things that upsets me right about
public housing is that there are people with the genuine,
genuine need for public housing for whatever reason, and they
look after that house like it's their own, and they
care for it. They do the right thing. But then
you've got others that do not. And you know, whether
it's right or wrong, public housing is a privileged it's
(11:53):
not a right, and we need to make sure that
people are actually looking after that public housing. So I'm
pleased to hear that you had a discussion with your and.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I've offered her family member to send me all the information.
They've written to the Health sorry, the Health Missress, also
the Housing Minister, Steve Edgington. They've written to their local member.
They've written to various people and they haven't got a response.
So I said, well, just send it all to me.
I'll write it through obvishe. I'm the leader of the opposition.
That's my job to advocate for Territorians. I'll put it through.
(12:21):
Let's see if we can get you a quicker response
or a direct response. I'm very comfortable to do that.
But ultimately, if people are bringing these issues to the
attention of either their local member, the government minister and
the department, you think that they should get a response
first and foremost, but then hopefully a solution and some
type of action would be great.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Selena, before I let you go, we spoke about this
last week, but more polling on one nation right this time.
Now they look like they are a real chance. They're
nudging ahead. They're not just taking liberal votes, they're taking
labor votes as well. I mean, what do you make
of all of this.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I did look at some of that polling last night.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I looked at quite a few different sources across the
nation around that. I think here in the territory it
will be a big concern and I think particularly for
the COLP. So I don't think the Chief Minister should
dismiss that at all.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But for us as Labor.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We want to make sure that we've got those key
priorities when we're addressing some of those issues that territories
want us to represent. That's our big focus is getting
on the job in opposition. We don't want to just
be opposition for position sake. We want to be constructive
and come twenty twenty eight, k do we want to
show that we're an old to just.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Preference each other rather than one nation.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
If it came down to that, I cannot comment on
that right now. It would be very interesting times. But
they are here in the territory. One nation is here
in the territory. We do know that had we've seen
a candidate in previous elections. So but for us as Labor,
we want to get on with the job. We want
to make sure we show territorians what we're about, our values,
what we can offer and of course win that trust
(13:56):
and win those votes for labor.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Selena Ubo, always good to with you. Appreciate you coming
into the studio this morning. We'll catch up with your son.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Thank you so much. Thank you
Popular Podcasts
Hey Jonas!
Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com