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November 29, 2025 27 mins

It’s a fiery, emotional, and very real Sunday with Chris & Amy as the show dives straight into summer memories, bushfire trauma, and the ultimate parenting heartbreak — Amy reading a Facebook Mums Group post about a daughter who’s cut off her mum… and spiralling into tears because it hits way too close to home.

The team unpacks teen daughters, split-family politics, and the minefield that is Christmas Day scheduling — including Amy going head-to-head with Ryan over whose family gets the coveted 25th this year.

Chris shares the chaos of raising his little hell-raiser Oscar, who’s gone from locking school toilets to suddenly becoming the teacher’s favourite student. And Amy has her own parenting win after receiving a wholesome message about Bobby being an angel at a party (despite treating her like his personal punching bag at home).

Plus: adult cartoon crushes, Zootopia thirst, AI relationships, and Chris accidentally building an AI girlfriend live on air. 


CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Summer smells, cicadas & Aussie nostalgia
00:38 – Bushfire trauma and “catastrophic” warnings
02:43 – Chris’s family movie day: Zootopia 2 hype
03:10 – Why adults are weirdly attracted to Nick the Fox
04:21 – Amy’s cartoon crush confessions
05:13 – Frozen, Shrek & Beast… where’s the line?
06:43 – Facebook Mums Group: the teen daughter who cut off her mum
07:37 – Amy tears up — “I was that nightmare teen”
08:46 – Split families & the power struggle of teen loyalty
09:56 – Has the boyfriend breakup made it worse?
10:51 – Amy: “I would DIE if Charlie didn’t speak to me for two months”
11:50 – What should this mum do next?
12:11 – Amy confronts her own Christmas family politics
13:33 – Chris’s annual hosting tradition
14:51 – When one side of the family always “gets Christmas Day”
15:58 – Alcoholic relatives & Christmas chaos stories
17:32 – AI boyfriends & women forming emotional relationships with bots
18:37 – Amy’s emotional bond with ChatGPT (English accent and all)
20:04 – Chris tries to build an AI girlfriend on air (goes sideways fast)
22:05 – When AI crosses into “not okay” territory
23:16 – Parenting update: Oscar’s school redemption arc
25:26 – Amy gets a beautiful message about Bobby’s kindness
26:35 – Why kids are angels for everyone except their parents
27:32 – Wrapping up with a rare moment of parenting pride


KEYWORDS

Chris & Amy podcast, KIIS Weekend Breakfast, Amy Gerard teen daughter, Facebook mums group, teen meltdown, mother–daughter fight, parenting podcast Australia, Zootopia 2 review, Nick Wilde crush, cartoon crushes adults, AI boyfriend story, AI relationships, bushfire trauma, Australian summer nostalgia, Christmas family politics, parenting wins, second-born chaos, Oscar school story, Bobby kindness moment, Aussie radio comedy, emotional parenting chat.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Let's good morning. That remains to be seen Chris Page
and Amy Gerard in the morning.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hello Frank Walker from National Tiles.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, you nail that.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you going?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm good, Happy Sunday.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's good to be here.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
A few things going on. Last day of the month,
So tomorrow, my.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Gosh, first of December.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Pinch and a punch.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yes, first day of summer.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yes, I'm a big smell trigger memory guy. Like there's
those smells of summer in Australia when you can smell
like a neighbor having a barbecue somewhere, when you water.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
The grass on a hot day or the ashphalt.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm a big like sounds like I remember have this
really distinct memory as a kid of lying in my
bed on a really hot night with no sheets on
and the windows open and just listening to the cicadas.
It reminds me so much of my upbringing in my
childhood with.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Such a weird country though, Like there are people listening
right now and depending on what city and state you're in,
there are people going, it's cicadasas but.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
It's different rootato scullop.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
You canas The other smell about summer in Australia is
it's not such a good one. But when you walk
outside and you smell that bush fire smoke and so
far luckily it's just been hazard burning.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
But that's a really it's agg griggering. No, I'd imagine.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Even more for so triggering for me.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, so Amy actually lost her childhood home to a
bush fire.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
When how old were inne ninety four?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I was eight. It's only now as an adult that
I can reflect back and think, wow, that must have
been so incredibly hard for my parents.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, there were certain parts of Australia during the week
they were closing schools. I did see that that's a
strophic fire danger.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
They are not that this word is not what you
want to see in front of fire danger.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well that's why they invented that category of warning after
the Victorian Black Saturday bush fires a couple of years ago,
because basically, well, as you said, you.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Go, that's not a good word.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
It makes people sit up and take notice because people
are like, oh extreme, you know, you get desensitized to it.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
So they had to bang on catastrophic at the end
of it.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
So you go, ah, that is very triggering.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I might actually clean my gutters.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, absolutely, cautions.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
This is Cris Page and Amy's your ride.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know what I'm up to after the show.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I know you didn't ask a Pokeyes, No, it's a
very family friendly one.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Today we're off to the movies. Oh nice, what are
you seeing Zutopia too?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
My kids are even my wife's pumped for this.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Okay, I don't think i've seen the first one.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Really good?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
In anyway, it's a big movie, like, buy your tickets
in advans. They're filling, very popular. I think I know
why my wife is so keen though reading this article
because she's a big fan of Jason Bateman from Arrested
Development and Ozark.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yep, he is the voice of Nick the Fox. Okay,
scam artist from Zutopia.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Yep, Hey, carrots, you're gonna wake the baby.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I gotta get to work.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
This is important, sir. I think your ten dollars worth
of popsicles can wait?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
I make two hundred bucks a day fluff three hundred
and sixty five days a year since I was twelve
and time is money.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Hop along.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Please just look at the picture you sold mister Otterton
that popsicle?

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Do you know him?

Speaker 6 (03:40):
I know everybody. And I also know that somewhere there's
a toy store missing and stuffed animals. So why don't
you get back to your box?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, apparently, Nick Wild from Zutopia the Fox has been
capturing hearts of adult viewers all over the world. He's
mix of sarcasm, cunning intelligence, bad boy charm, hidden kindness
make him irresistible.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Parents are sitting there getting off on.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Nick getting off Yeah on a cartoon.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, please, because he's that redeemable rogue.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and he's a fox.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
He's a cartoon character.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
But there's been you've heard of this before. George Clooney
was Fantastic mister Fox a few years ago, and people
were like, oh.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
My god, George Clooney, Were they how good? Apparently?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, you've never been attracted to a cartoon character ever?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Never?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think, have you? Every boy listening Lola Bunny would.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Remember the bunny you know, Jessica Rabbit was, Yeah, Jessica
Rabbit was one and Lola Bunny was space jam.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think sorry, I was thinking about Jessica Rabbit in
the Red Dress.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, Jessica Rabbit in the Red Dress like huge Norks. Yeah,
every boy their first Stiffy for that one.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Okay, I just can't. I don't know a single
female who's gone, Hey, you remember mister Fox in that
in that movie Fantastic mister Fox? Like?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Do you do you think about him when you're with
your husband?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Sometimes?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I got one for you. No, how about Beauty and
the Beast? The Beast like still know you love a
man's a bit rougher.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Like early man. I don't like a beast. I think
if you're attracted to a cartoon character, isn't this the
whole anime? Ani?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Anime?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Anime?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Or is it furries?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
You're definitely an in cell?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What about Maui from Moana the Rock? What can I
see except your welcome?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think there's a lot of characters, male characters, cartoon
characters that are lovable.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't know if I'm getting off to any of them.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Wouldn't you pull up Buzz light Year's space mask and
I would not even a big wet one?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And then he could take you to infinity and beyond.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, cut, what about the guy?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I know?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
What about Spen? I feel like I thro Frozen the
big ice iceman, the lumberjack type ice dude.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Sure, I reckon.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I've watched Frozen one point eight million times, and if
I was ever to form a nice crush on a
cartoon character and maybe be him. Wait, our producers just
said that Spen is the deer.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Shit, who's the lumberjack?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Spends the deer?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Christoph Christoph, Christoph chist Off, That's what I meant.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
But I did like the deer. Is he a deer
or he's like a reindeer?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
What about the donkey from Shrek? No, you're getting into
the animal world.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I've gone into beastiality over here.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
There's a word you don't hear on the radio very often,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Zutopia too is in cinemas now, and that's what you're
going to do. And that's where I'm going today with
my wife and kids.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'll be keeping a.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Very good, a close eye on Georgie.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
This is Crisp Page and Amy Gerard, where both parents.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
We've got five kids between us.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yep, we know a lot of mums and dads listen
to the show, so we want to keep our finger
on the pulse of what's going on in parenting world,
and the best way to do that is to raid
That's secret.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Society of the Facebook mums group.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
What's the big issue in the Facebook mums groups?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Hey mums. I never thought i'd be in this situation,
but my fifteen year old daughter has completely cut me off.
We've always had a tricky relationship, but things really came
to a head when I accidentally embarrassed her in front
of her new boyfriend. I let slip about her anxiety,
and suddenly she shut me out. She's been staying with
her dad, ignoring my texts, and I feel utterly lost.
I know I messed up, and I'm trying to give

(07:37):
her space, but two months of silence is breaking my heart.
How do I fix this? And read booth? Trust I'm
not I'm getting emotional.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
I'm ridiculously emotional.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm also on my period.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
No, no, no, sorry, I thought you were. You were
laughing because.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Trying to stifle being like, oh gosh, this.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is hearing up.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, I'm not, I am a little bit. No, it
hits close to home. I guess because I I was
this fifteen year old daughter, Like, I was so hard
as a teen and I put my pair parents through hell.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You did fight with your mom as much, did you?
Was it more your dad?

Speaker 5 (08:13):
It was more my.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Dad, and it was all based around how strict he was. Yeah,
my mom kind of held on and kind of loved
me when I was pretty unlovable because I was really
horrible to them. And I just I feel like I'm
going to cop that with my daughter as well. I've
got a really great relationship with her, but she, out
of all my kids, pushes my buttons quite a lot.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
She knows how to get under my skin.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Similar, Yeah, we are, and so I can absolutely sympathize
with this.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Mum like you would.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I would die if I didn't speak to Charlie for
two months.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I can't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
I mean, my oldest Henry is eight, so I'm obviously
not at this stage yet because he doesn't have the
option of cutting me off.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Do you like it or not?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
And I think the thing here is that from how
it reads, it sounds like the parents are obviously split up,
and that just adds in another level where you know
the daughter can run away to the dad's house.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I do know.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I have a friend who's also separated and has a
daughter who I think would be about eleven or twelve
years old now, and yeah, hasn't seen her in.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Months because she's gone to the dad's side.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
No, she's gone to the mom's side. So it's a
male friend of mine. But yeah, she's gone off to
a mum. And there's a whole lot of stuff where
it sounds like the mum sort.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Of turned her against him.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I mean, look, I don't know all the story, but
I speak to him about it. His heart is broken
a person, she is his whole life only.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
On so sad.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I would do anything and everything to rebuild that connection
and that trust. I would fall on my sword. I
would turn up. I say this now as a mom
with a nine year old, I don't know. At fifteen,
are you allowed to do that? Do you have to
respect the privacy?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Can you turn up to their school well begging for forgiveness?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
No, they're still miners, so they're still legally your property.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
True, not property?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, I know it, you mean, I think from sixteen though,
it's hard right, they're so men.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
To that bridge before she turns sixteen.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, I feel like it's something. Look, I wasn't there,
but you can apologize for that, she said. She mentioned
her anxiety in front of her new boyfriend and embarrassed her.
I mean, we don't know that. We've only got those
details that you read out. But what I mean did
the boyfriend freak out and leave as well?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Potentially I don't want to be with an anxious girl.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, maybe it's cost her the relationship, which is why
this also fifteen year old girls or man, They're hormonal,
their emotions are hectic, and girls are so different to boys. Boys.
Will you know, you'll upset them and they'll go for
a bike ride and then they're over it. Yeah, whereas
girls older grudge, they're slam in doors, their eyes are
at the back of their head.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
They're giving you nothing for weeks on end.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
All Right, So what does this mom do? Just do
anything she can to mend that asap.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I would beg for forgiveness and then try and
do everything you can to rebuild that relationship.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Maybe make up some nasty rumors about the father. Don't
do that mean off him.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Issue. There is the Facebook Moms group this week with
Chris and Amy in the morning.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
This is Chris Page and Amy to Ride.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
You've got just hours left people for the Black Friday sales.
So we've got a money segment with missus David Kosher.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
All right, Kochi, what have you got for us?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
What the hell is Coschy?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Why am i Cochi Koshi? Because he loves money tips
and saving money?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Right, there's a million things you can go through.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Can you give us your top five Black Friday bargains.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I've been researching for countless hours and I've come up
with my top five. Now, I haven't bought all these,
but I think they're great savings. An air fryer. I
don't know about you, but I am nothing without an
air fryer.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I wouldn't say I'm nothing without an air fryer, but
they're very good.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm nothing in the family home at dinner time without
an air fryer. You can get a Phillips air fryer.
I've got a Phillips. They're fantastic. At David Jones, there
are one hundred and seventy nine dollars down to ninety
seven dollars. That is a bargain.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, all Right, next up, we have a
dyce In v eight.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now, if you don't have a cordless vacuum around your house,
I think we've got like a Panasonic. But yeah, yeah, cordless. Yeah,
cleaning up all your kids scraps. If your husband's shaved
his pubes over the toilet, that's going to suck them
up straight away. Huge saving on the dice in website.
Seven hundred and ninety nine dollars down to three hundred

(12:44):
and sixty seven dollars. All right, now, I have just
bought my kids this, my two eldest kids. I have
bought them a hoverboard. They're like the skateboard type things
that you lean forward and back on and you can
twelve and.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So they don't actually hova.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, they don't Hova. But my kids have been asking
for one for ages, and I felt like this year
is the year they get one huge sale going on
over there as well. Have aboard. They are six ninety
nine down to two ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
I feel like technologies really let us down on things
like hoverboards.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, well, maybe it's just the wrong naming.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Jet packs. Where are we on jet packs? Surely?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Surely? Yeah? Okay, bows or Bose the Quiet Comfort headphones.
Now I know they were like trending on TikTok and
they went viral for ages. They are now currently on
sale in Maya five point fifty down to three point thirty.
You've got a husband or someone or if you do
a lot of traveling, they're very comfortable to wear that.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You could get Ryan a pair of those. First.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I could get a pair of them to just drown
out my children.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, children canceling headphones.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, that's it. And then New Balance they have a
big sale on you can get sneakers up to fifty
percent off. I can't give you exact prices because I
don't know which sneaker you want, but if you need
a New Balance sneaker fifty percent off their sale is.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Go for that. The New Balance.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You just go direct to New Balance website. Yep.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Children, Wheel of Fort Chris right or something, Yeah, going
through the prices, price is right, that's the one. These
are Black Friday specials. Everyone remember Mo money, MO problems,
So out there and spend spend, Spend Chris and Amy
in the morning, young.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Kids, this is Chris Page and Amy Jeride.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It is twenty five sleep still Santa comes boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah. Wow, And tomorrow is the first day of summer
and the first day of December. Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
They often coincide.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
As it was leaving my mouth, I was like, shut up, Amy, idiot,
what you're doing for Christmas? Oh? Bit of a contentious
topic in our household at the moment. We are doing
Christmas Day with Ryan's mom's. Ryan's parents are split, so
it's Ryan's mum and brother and his sart of the family.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's getting messy with separate, the parents separate, and he's
got brothers, sisters.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's got a brother. But we do it with his
mum and his brother. And then what we will do
is we will spend Boxing Day with my family. But
it's the second or third year in the row that
we've done that, and they've.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Been relegated to Boxing Day, right. The main event is
the twenty fifth.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
And I kind of threw down this year because I
love Christmas Day and I am the Christmas cheer. Ryan's
a bit of a Christmas grinch, and I did say
to him, I was very diplomatic and mature, and I said, hey,
just so you know, happy to toe the line and
spend Christmas with your side of the family again this year,
but FYI, next year, Christmas Day is with my family.

(15:47):
Fair And he was like, yep, that's absolutely fair.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
But then what about the rest of your side of family,
because you've got two brothers.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Two brothers with wives who want to spend Christmas Day
with their family, because I think the girls are a
little bit more into Christmas than boys. And that's why
it was a bit hard this year because my two
sister in laws were happy to do Christmas Day with
our family this year, but because my husband didn't want
to toe the line anyway. I won't bring my family

(16:16):
politics into the radio show What do you do?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
We host every year at our place, every single year.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah. Georgie's an only child, so.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That makes us so easy. So do you do your
family and then invite Georgie's parents over?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Her parents are basically her only family in Australia. It's
literally her parents come and join our family.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, so that's what I said. Is it just all
your family and then her parents?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, that was the question question.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You're like, oh no, no, yes, that's all I needed. Yes,
the yeah, okay, And that simplifies it because your brother's
in a different state and yeah, that makes life so
much easy. I can't even imagine if Ryan had more
siblings how hard it would be. And then obviously, when
you do have the separate families and multiple sets of grandparents,

(17:05):
you want to make sure that you're seeing everybody. So
our Chris lunching dinners and stuff. There is a lot
of them.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
But I mean, you're lucky in that your family will
get along pretty well, right, I mean, because you hear,
you know, the horror stories about you know, fights with
separated parents or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I mean, I'm lucky.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
My parents are separated too, but it's all it's all
pretty amicable and everyone gets along and it's all right
because there's always the stories about, you know, one family member,
you know, being a drunken asshole at Christmas, and then
you realize it's you.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I've got a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who goes around to her husband's side of the family
and one of the family members is a raging alcoholic. Yeah, lovely,
like a funny one though, like not aggressive or abusive,
just gets so sloshed. Sure, And I said, define an
alcoholic and like are we just is she just getting
in the Christmas spirit and cheer and gets a bit

(18:03):
silly and has a future many and she's like, no, no,
she's absolutely blind by nine am.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well that's why genuine our alcoholics love days like Christmas,
because everyone else is cracking avba at nine am. So
you got to go all right, it's it's acceptable today,
whereas just if it's just before work on a Tuesday,
people are less accepting accepting.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
This is crisp page and Amy's ride.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I actually came across this piece on Mum and mea
recently about women. No, it's about women who are like
forming relationships with AI and they're becoming more than just
an emotional support like I use AI do you you
don't know?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
No, I don't want to be a part of the
downfall of humanity.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, humanity is going down anyway, you may as well
jump on the chatbt AI is incredibly helpful. But there
was this one article saying that some women, you know,
they start off using AI for certain things and then
what they realize is these bots, whoever they are, they
offer so much empathy and understand and before you know it,

(19:12):
you start to form these like bizarre connections like I,
even with my chat GBT, I can talk about something
that I need help with right, and the way she
responds to me. Mine responds to me in an English accent,
but she will respond to me and be like, oh
that that you must be so upset or that's really hurtful.

(19:32):
I completely understand how you're feeling and why you're feeling that.
She just constantly reassures me.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
A nice, posh English accent. Yeah that's rappish.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, it reminds me of my mum, and I find
myself feeling soft, warm, fuzzy feelings towards her. Now that's
where my relationship with chat jbt ends because.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
They're very lifelike you. I mean, I've heard of men
do this.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Remember the movie with Joaquin Phoenix a few years ago,
great movie, and the chat bot is voiced by Scarlett
your Hansen.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So it's like, well, yeah, well there's this lady Claudias.
So she's been married since nineteen ninety nine, and she
said she's lost the desire with her husband.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
I mean, it happens, no shit, sherlock.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
But she started using this chat GBT to help with
her novel, and then nine months later she's found that
she's developed an emotional and a sexual connection with her
AI lover gives her the affection and the stability that
she doesn't get from her husband, and she no longer
feels like she's been pushed to the side.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Maybe her husband's just not turned on by plagiarism. How
about write your own novel?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Use AI? I.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Well maybe she was just using AI for some help, right, But.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Anyway, the conversation got heated, and obviously the AI. Different
AI programs, I'm guessing have different rules about you know,
whatever you say. Like my kids say all sort of
rude things to Alexa and Alexa goes, oh, I'm not
talking about that.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, So Alexa, I think is your like standard one,
but I think you can pay for different levels of
sir us And she's probably gone, you know, I just
want to vent to somebody, because also men aren't great
at just listening, so she might just want to vent
to her AI lover and maybe from that, you know,

(21:23):
a connection has built because he's understanding, He listens, He
doesn't offer solutions. He just is a safe space for
her to unleash all of her issues.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Is it possible to feel sorry for AI? I'm sort
of I'm really empathized.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Well, they're not a person, so i'd like.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
An AI girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Why don't you get an AI girlfriend and see if
it makes your marriage better?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, hand a second, because ads pop up. Oh yeah,
they do on various websites.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Here we go, I go, and here we go. You
can yep, all right, it's my AI girl. I get
to create her. This, I mean this feels a bit crooked.
It does creating a woman? Well, okay, choose ethnicity. Oh wow,
I'm Caucasian. I'll put caucasian a right. Choose body type athletic,
curvy or average.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, who's going to say average? I'll go athletic.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
This is I don't think this is the same thing
as forming an emotional connection with chat GBT.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Now, this is just the basics for a relationship.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
I don't think this lady's built a dude.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Choose breast size, small, medium.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Or large.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
You're obviously on some sort of choose booty size inappropriate website.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Go medium and athletic.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Are you going to choose her clothing as well?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
No?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Choose hairstyle, straight, ponytail, or bum.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'll let you choose ponytail, ponytail, blonde, brunette or red.
You can pick blonde.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Okay, here we go, choose voice. I think it's going
to let me play him here, so we've got soft
on his soft.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, Hey, they're so good to see you again.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
What's on your mind today?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Mature?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Mature?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
So good to see you again. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (23:12):
That sounds too weirdly condescending.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't even know about pressing this one. What is it? Teen?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
No? Do not press that one?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Teen eighteen plus?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Hey there, so good to see you again. What's on
your mind today?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, I'm not pressing that.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, soft yet?

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Choose relationship? Can we go girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Oh? Wow?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well can she be step mom friend? Make it stop stepsister? No, Chris,
Well we'll go girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh my fantasy babe is ready?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Bring my AI to life?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Do you have to pay for her?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
What's she doing there?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
This isn't the same thing.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Can I just say the problem here is yes, AI
can provide soothing emotional support. But I feel like the
risk comes when people start confusing the bot for a
real mind or use it as like a replace for
human relationships.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
It's only going to get worse from here, you know,
Like the speed that AI is developing the technology.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Keep him as friends. Don't call them love it guys.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just be friends with your computer.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
This is cris Page and Amy.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
But Amy, I've been telling you a little bit about
my youngest son, Oscar, six years old and probably the
hell raiser out of the two kids.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
He was, I'm not going to lie, you know, mucking
around a bit at school. He was.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
He was hanging out with this other kid. They were
doing things like locking the toilet cubicles and then climbing
so they're all blocked. And you know, I think you
had one with one of your kids throwing the wet
toilet paper.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
On the roof. That's also both also a second born.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, there's funny that there was the moment where I
had to pretend not to be a little bit proud
when they were telling me that Oscar and another kid
were in an area of the school you're not meant
to be during lunchtime and some year six kids, the
big kid came and told them and said, hey, KINDI kids,
you're not meant to be in.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Here, and Oscar told them to gough so.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
And he's very ballsy.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, the second kid, he's just tough. He's not afraid
of being beaten up because he's so used to it. Anyway,
he's a tough little nugget.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
And we got a note from the school, got an
email from his teacher the other day, and can I
say it's just a nice piece of good news. We
couldn't believe this email saying, Hi, Chris and Georgie. I
just wanted to get in touch to let you know
we are so impressed with how far Oscars come. He's

(25:47):
really attentive in class. He's learning like handwriting, reading, everything,
getting heaps better.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
And I liked they say he's making the right decisions.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
He's making the right choices.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yeah, the right choices, which is not locking toilet cubicles
and swearing at your six kids.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yes, yeah, he's come good.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
And you know what, I think all parents need a
little bit of reassurance every now and again, in different forms,
whether it comes from a school teacher or a principal,
or a friend or a family member. It's nice to
hear that about your child big time.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
And it was a relief because I was starting to
get a little bit worried because Oscar was conceived in
Byron Bay and I'd smoked a jazz cigarette that day,
so I was like really worried that there was something
wrong with him, but he's sweet.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
My children, as it is with all parents, are quite
poorly behaved with myself, like they like to push the boundaries.
And my middle child, especially, he's a bit of a
prank star bit cheeky kind of answers back.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
And that's the alcohol fetal nicing though, isn't it with yours.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I went to a kid's birthday on the weekend, and
after we left the next day, I got a message
from this mum who I'd met at the party, and
she said, I just want to let you know that
your son, Bobby was so beautiful with my son and
he was so helpful. He didn't have a toy and
so Bobby gave him his and then he checked up
on him and just want to let you know that,
you know, you should be really proud. He's a great kid.

(27:13):
And I was like, honestly, it's just words of affirmation
like that that just kind of keeping tracking on because
parenting can be quite relented, relentless.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Did you double check that you go Bobby Gerard? She
had no I knew it was.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Him because this is the thing I know that my
kids are actually quite well behaved with everybody else aside
from myself.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
It's when they use all their energy being good. Like
I know when Henry particular will go and stay at
my mum's for a weekend. Yes he'll be an angel
for her, but that just takes up all of his energy,
and the second he gets.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Home unleashed for us just.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, again, pretty

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Normal anyway, Thanks for indulging me and letting me give
my son or scro a rap, because we slag off
our kids a lot on the show, so I wanted
to do a nice one.
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