All Episodes

November 12, 2025 10 mins

Should South Australi move to a 4 day work week?

Hayley & Max battle it out in our Debate After 8!

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I heard podcasts here more Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
App All right, Haley Peers and Max burf hat heads
ahead on one topic assigned which angle they're going to
take on the topic as well.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Sixty seconds on the clock.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
South Australia should have a four day work week. It's
happening in other parts of the world.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
And Haley Pierce and negative Max.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Berth, which is funny because Haley's a small business owner
and knows that a four day working week is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's awful.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
In fact, my business partner, Lauren has just walked into
Mix and she's in the other room and she said,
the only time she's ever switched us off is what
I said, that a four day.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Week is good.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, you're about to spend sixty seconds saying it is
good because that's your side of the argument.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Sorry, Love your time starts now, all right.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
As a business owner, this is for a worker. It's
the flipping dream. You get paid the same but work less.
This is a three day holiday every single week. You
can go of the Maldives on a weekend and guess what,
if you want, you can pick up an extra shift
on a Friday. Your boss has to pay you penalty rates,
so you end up paying making more money than he

(01:17):
ever did before. Picture this long weekends, lazy brunches, road trips,
extra time for the family.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Life is better now.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
I'm pulling this card, the mental health card, because the
mental health of your team matters more than profit. Margeons
and passive aggressive email saying, let's circle back to that
on Monday. You'll get more out of your staff than
ever before, and they'll actually like you. Morale will be
through the roof, and it's proven. It's tried and tested
in the UK. Productivity up, focus up, fake sick days down.

(01:45):
So I say, bring on the four day week. Do
it for your staff, do it for your mental health.
You selfish pig.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
That you just tack that on at the end. You
made no effort with your selfish pig today.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I really struggled with that one.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
As a worker, awesome, Yeah, that's a business zoy.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
We be honest even as a business owner. You want this.
You hate working. You're the laziest person I've me.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Okay, I have four jobs and I actually take great
offense to that because I could cry right now I
don't want to be here you doing radio when I've
got three other jobs.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
But you love doing nothing? I mean you're doing nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do I ever do nothing at home when I paint?
I'm a mom, don't ever call me lazy.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
So, but you like doing nothing?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Come on, push the button. I've got to do the argument.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now, there's sixty seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
South Australia should have a four day work week negative
max eurfort right.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Four day working week.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Of course, it sounds great, let's actually think about it
for four seconds. Everyone says, don't worry, I'll work harder,
I'll get everything done in four days. Ah, so you're
not working hard right now? Why should I trust you
with a shorter week when you can't even get things
done in a longer one.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
What about the business owners.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm not talking big business owners, I'm talking the local daily,
your neighborhood accountant, maybe even a place like at a lady.
These poor people already spend half their time figuring out payroll,
getting reamed by new government taxes, everything else in between.
Now they've got a schedule shifts on Haley's new personal
balance day.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Bye bye business. What are you gonna do with that
extra day?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Anyway, you can't catch up on life, Adaman, everything's closed.
Can't go to that restaurant, they're paying penalty rates so
they closed. You can't go check out a new exhibition
in town. Closed, closed, closed, They're all having a day off.
Two might be a boring argument, but essay, can't handle
a four day working week. The economy is going to
crumble all because you wanted more time for yourself. You big, lazy,
selfish peak.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Big and lazy as well. Oh okay, what do you
think adelaide?

Speaker 5 (03:40):
And we want both sides of this business owners workers would.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
You like a four day week in South Australia?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
As a worker, love to do four day week? I
would love that. But as a business owner it is
awful for the economy.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And it is awful if you think about something other
than yourself, you can see I know.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Why I should be working.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
How it's it bad for the economy If people are
still getting the same productivity out.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
In that time, there is no way that people will
get the same productivity.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Out, especially for hospow that's the worst for the hospitality.
You have to be opened Friday, Saturday, Sundays.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
We work in South Australia, where penalty rates are like, yeah,
you worked one second after you were meant to work,
so you now get your entire mortgage paid off.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
At eighteen year olds are earning more than what we're
being paid.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
What do you think Thursday one, two three Emma in
Dover Gardens. Your team match your team Hailey.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
I'm team Haley. Why of course all, I'm a teacher
at a four day work week would be absolutely amazing
for the kids. Getting them to have a day off
that kids are so overloaded and spending more time outside
and with their family would be so important because they're
so busy, and we could get all the kulum done
in four days, I believe.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Do you think?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Do you think?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I do? Like you're taking away twenty percent of learning
time and you're just going to crown that into kids
who already battled a focus as it is.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
No, I definitely think that we give kids lots of
breaks to make sure that they can last the five
days and to build that stamina. And I think they
had the rest day, they could actually build their stamina
more in those four days.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I would I reckon Mike, my son would prefer that too,
given an hour maybe extra on a day for those
few days, and then they have three days to recharge
and they're excited to go back to school.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's because you. Yeah, I can't focus on something for
more than twenty five seconds.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, we have a thousand things going on.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
It's tiring. I can already see in your eyes you're
wondering what's happening next.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I can't wait to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Moved on for the debate already. Hey, Emma, thanks for
the call. You going to the La premiere of Wicked
for Good. It's in every caller gets you call thirteen
one oh two three, You get on air and you
are also going along to Wicked for Good More.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Next, we're going to keep this debate going. Four day
work week, good, bad or otherwise. South Australia should have
a four day working week. Hailey was assigned it. She
doesn't really agree with it, but she's going affirmative. I'm
going negative. We also have other people offering their opinions
on the phones. Thirteen one oh two three, and in
the studio, ourfie, you're here. It's your eleventh birthday. You
are Hailey's second son. Can you please give us your

(06:04):
opinion in ten seconds or less.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Okay, we definitely should have a four day week because
we already have seven hours of.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Schoolwork and homework.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
We need a break to see your friends and relaxed.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
But Alfi, you know that if you do this, school
is going to be like nine hour days, so you
can fit in the extra work.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Like nine and a half hour days. You get a
three day week. Yeah, the three day weeks better.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, you can go the Maldives on the weekend, gets it.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You and your mother lose focus in twenty five seconds,
you are going to battle for a nine and a
half hour school day.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Okay, it's not.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Up to us, though, it is up to Adelaide, Georgie
and Corrolta part What do you think?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Mate?

Speaker 7 (06:40):
All the way guys, Happy birthday to both of you. Hailey,
absolutely four day week. Who does not like a four
day week?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Come on, George, Yeah, it's true though, think of if
it's you're just thinking purely of the workers who wouldn't
want three days off?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
George?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
You're an uber driver. Have you ever worked in any
other any other field?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (06:59):
Cafe sir Max, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Cafe owner, George, and you had to pay your staff
an extra day of penalty rates, you'd be in all
sorts of financial trouble.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
During the week. I wouldn't mind if it was a weekday,
that's fine, not a weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
An extra weekday though, that's the point of the four day.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Week, Na, just get just work a bit harder for
the four days you have a day off.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I would totally do that.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
I reckon productivity would go through the roof because everyone
wants to get out of there and they want to
celebrate on a Thursday night. You can go to your
peninsula on a Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
How do you add extra productivity to a cafe? You
have to go in and drink three coffees instead of twos.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
It's but for everybody else is great?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Sarah and sere Meadows, Sarah, you do a four day
working week?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Talk us through it.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yes, I already actually work Tuesday a Friday. I have
Mondays off, which is absolutely fantastic. I've got two young girls,
so it's my day just to do all the admin
side of things and put the week out and everyone.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Else, what has it done for you four days?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let's speak about it from a human point of view,
having the three days off to yourself, how does it
make you feel?

Speaker 8 (08:05):
Oh, I love it. It's absolutely fantastic. I mean I've
gone through a working shift work as a nurse of
fifteen years, so they are working solely during the week,
which was a big change. Yeah, yeah, knowing I've always
got that Monday off and I've got the flexibility of
whopping my days around.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
I was talking about flexibility, Sarah. Why don't I suggest
a three day week or two and a half day week.

Speaker 9 (08:26):
I could probably actually do that in my role.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't want to work at all. Can I just
put that on the record. I want a seven day weekend. Yes,
all the time. Now I'd get bored, but I understand
the need for five days of work. Rachel in Campbelltown,
what team you want and why?

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Oh no?

Speaker 9 (08:45):
I think in theory, yes, but absolutely not a four
day work week. I come back after a long weekend
so stressed, trying to cram everything in. I work in healthcare.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 9 (08:54):
I've also got a business. It just doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Care is the issue. There isn't there.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
It doesn't work. The people still need our services.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, but you get paid penalty rates.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
So like if you're working on a Friday.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
You're an ambo and you're working on a Friday, someone
who's paying Hailey government.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
That would just rise all our taxes. That's the problem.
People already complain that healthcare, you know, cost much out
of the badget. I think it will only drive up pactes.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
It's not good for the.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I want to be four days over here, forty nine
cents on the dollar. All right, a big tax bill.
This is Hailey in maxes after eight debate on.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Mix two point three today it was all about South
Australia should have a four day work week.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Affirmative was Hay Pierson negative?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Max Burk pause out today I was going on the
mental health card.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I was pulling that one quite.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Strongly because it is really good for your mental health
to have a break, come back, refreshed on a Monday.
Of course, it is smash it out in four days.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Of course it is.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Unfortunately we live in a society where things need to
exist and people need to work for.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Those things to exist. All right, well it's silly to
have that many days. We have the verdict.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I've got a real one. If you want to.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Salied up all of the votes on the Mix one
or two went through Facebook, Instagram.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And your calls Adelaide.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Seventy percent of the mixed fam say that South Australia should.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Not have.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
U Nanny.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's a windle of good guys right now that the
debate's over and my side one.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
You firmly agree with my side, don't you.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah, that's terrible for the economy.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, all right,
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Ruthie's Table 4

Ruthie's Table 4

For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.