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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda Gemnas and Robbie Williams has joined us
right now in the flesh.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
How are you mate, I'm really really good Jersey. Lovely
to see you. I was just admiring your chin and
it is you could you could trim ear hair with that?
With that just it's it's cut glass. How that is that?
Just dna? I think it's his mother's got it. It's
(00:29):
so it's so impressive. Now listen, I'm thinking of having
a face lift, and I want to see one guy
in Los Angeles three hundred and fifty grand for a facelift.
I'm from Stoke. That's not happening. But do you I
mean you don't need one, But does it ever cross
your mind to do any work on that beautiful face?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, after you've said all this, Robbie, I'm and I'm
a bit of a tight ass. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna spend any money. I'm not about the bags
under my eyes.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You might just go to office and get a bulldog
clip for the back of the head. That might do
the trick.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Robie. It's lovely to see you both.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'll love you to see you and I just want
to thank you for the music you've given us. A
couple of weeks ago, I was in Tokyo with my sons,
whore in their twenties. They don't live at home anymore.
We're in a karaoke bar. The only Wessner is there
and we sang angels. I feel like crying. We hugged
each other and my oldest son said, I love you, mum,
and you were the backdrop to one of those bubbles
(01:27):
of bliss of my life. You must hear this a
lot from people saying what that your songs mean to them?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't hear it enough to
be honest with you, but when I do, it means
the world to me because you sit there and you
write the eat songs and you hope that they have
a destination, and you hope that they reach a destination.
And when you hear those those stories, it's life affirming
(01:58):
to me. Let me out this. When did the boys
leave home?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, they're only twenty two and twenty four this year,
but they're studying in various places and living on campuses
and now in shared flats, so it's only been in
recent years that they've left home. And it's been quite
a difficult process. I think for many mums to let
them go and to have that that moment was just
so special. I think it was the lyrics through it all,
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she offers me protection. I think that's what touched my
eldest son, and I felt validated for all, for all
the love I've given.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I felt, Wow, that's that's incredible. Did you never think too,
Because like I have half a mind on just making
my kids financially beholden to me so they never leave me.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's when I came on a holiday, me to Tokyo.
I paid them to be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, because I'm just you know, my oldest is twelve,
my youngest is four. We've got a ways to go,
but I'm constant be told how quickly it goes, and
I just never I never want to be without them.
I never want that. I never want that silence in
my house ever. Again. It's hard, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But the sign of a good parent, I think, Well,
we say the words is to raise kids that can go,
and our job is to let them do it. But
when you get there, g it's hard, but you do
have some time to go yet, Yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Heaps of time.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Every answer to me just pushed back against what you've
just said. And I know, I know that it's it's
what you have to do and what will happen, But
every answer to me just went, I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So your kids your putty in their hands. I want
to trial by dead. Oh yeah, mate, you can have
whatever color you want.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You can get every trail bike.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
When I saw the movie Better Man, I saw it
before everyone else. I wanted to one of those media
screenings and it was one of those things. I didn't
know that you were going to be a monkey in it.
And then I was watching. You came on the screen
at the start with director and you said and it
was sort of like a throw and by the way,
Robbie is going to be a monkey. And then when
it first came on, I went, actually he's a monkey.
(04:09):
And from this go to while of that movie, I
just I have such love for you. There was a
part at the end where I just wanted to give
you a big hug. I just said, Man, what a
life you've lived. But so many lessons learnt from it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that it does this trick, and the trick is, well,
I mean, we didn't know this, but you know you
care more for cute things. You care more for animals,
which is why we all exist and still exist, because
when babies arrive, something happens eternally internally inside us. Where
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we go, we must look after this and make sure
that this survives. And I think that's the geological trick
that the film plays is because like, I'm an asshole
in most of it, but he and when I'm an asshole,
you still have compassion and empathy for where where I'm
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coming from and who I am and the reasons why
I'm being that a hole? Can I say that in
the morning?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Sorry, I've done it, but.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, sorry, but I don't know man, you know, yeah,
it weirdly works better than if a human was playing
a human. And I have the monkey to thank for that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Was there also an element of that you didn't relief
that you didn't have to do it Because we've done
some ads for our radio show were little puppets played us.
I think, how great, I don't have to actually turn
up and do it. Was there an element of that
it was you, but you didn't have to be filmed
every day?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, I was going to play me, but then it
was in COVID and I would have actually have been
away from the family for three months and during COVID
when the world was absolutely crisis. There's no way I
could beat the other side of the world and allow
my four beautiful children and my wife to fend for themselves.
(06:08):
So John O'Davis stepped up and played me incredibly well,
and he's just brilliant and a wonderful person. But I guess,
so I guess. The short answer is, yeah, I'm glad
I didn't have to play me, and yeah, it turned
out perfectly.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And how do you reconcile yourself now when you're performing?
Do you still look at in the crowd for that
angry version of you saying you're no good?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
How do you beat that?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, I'll tell you they used to drive the car.
They don't drive the car anymore. They're in the car
with me, but I drive it. I had this outer
body experience New Year's Eve when I was on ABC
doing thirty five minutes on the television. I was ill,
I was jet lagged. I'm sensitive and insane when I'm
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not jet lagged and not ill. So you can imagine
getting on stage and having to hold it together while
the inside of your brain is just going I just
want to cry. Ah. And then I was like, oh,
I feel crazy. Oh okay, I will lean into the
crazy and do more crazy. And then all of a sudden,
I'm now thinking, oh, but my left nostril is streaming
with the cold. And then I was thinking, everybody on X,
(07:21):
everybody on Twitter is going to say Robbie Williams is
insane because he's on cocaine and look at him. The embarrassment.
And then I started to while I'm singing rock DJ
making up all of these titles for newspaper articles, boggle eyed,
Robbie Williams makes fan worried for him, makes fans worried
for his safety. So the monkeys, the disproving ones in
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the audience have now taken on different shapes. But I
will say that while all of that is happening in
my brain, there's another side of me that is also
having an incredible time and really enjoying it. So I
don't know, there's there's a lot of knees to contend with.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well good, and and then the elon Musk comes alonger
than you saved.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You don't have to worry about anything. Yeah he could
be the Yeah, he can be the crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
One on.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Bobby Safe. Well, mate, I think you're fantastic, but I
think the movie better Man is so good. I'm gonna
go and see it again, and I'll actually pay for
it this time. Robbie Williams, it's always a treat to
talk to.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You love it you're talking. You look after yourself, You
take care, look after yourself, Robbie.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Better Man's is it Cinema's pick up a copy of
better Man soundtrack as well out now. It's full of bangers.