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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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listening to the Jonesy and Demander podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is very exciting. Counting Crows are back on Australian
soil with their.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Complete Sweets tour.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The last time front man Adam Duritz popped into our studio,
what did.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I say say to Alum?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Alm? Did I say Alam?
Speaker 5 (00:33):
I've been thinking of my changing my name to Alam
at some point. Anyways, i'd like it ahead of the time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So I don't look foolish. Can you change it to Alam?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I could do this afternoon, Adam dura So, last time
Adam was in our studio, you weren't very impressed with
the state of our microphones or our studio.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
But hey, new studio. Who this? Look at this? Look
Look where we are. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Now this is the view of the center. I can
see our hotel. What was my problem with the studio?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You didn't like the microphone, and I appreciate that because
we're using these terrible, cheap microphones. But now we have
the Re twenty, the greatest microphone in the world.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Oh you were there twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I was going to say microphone perf's me now.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
But I mean, of course I know the are twenty.
Should we be sorry? Sixteen was nowhere near as good.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, the Ari twenty. You're a technical guy, surely, sure,
surely you're a technically with the show is phone, I
can work it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, that's more than most of us.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Complete Sweets tour sweets are lollies in Australia?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Are sweets? Are you're doing about candy? The Complete Sweets?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, it's kind of a play on the fact that
the first side of the record that we recorded was
a sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So oh nice, I get it.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
It was called Sweet one, and so I called the
Sweet two t o.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And now the Complete Sweets. It's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You know, look at how long like when mister Jones
came out all those years ago, I was in this
business and I heard it and I just knew it
was going to be a great song.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because your surname is Joanes.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well there is that, but no, I just thought and
I just listened to it over and over again. And
there's other songs in life when you hear them for
the first time and you say that thing's going to
be around forever. It never dates. Do you do you
appreciate that more and more as time goes on? Do
you go, wow, that was a well yeah, I mean
but at the time, did you were your youngest sort
of god?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Did you think, oh, this is just one of many.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Well, I mean we've had a lot of songs. I
like that it has been one of many. Yes, but
I mean, yeah, you nail it sometimes.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
That song was real. I thought that song was great.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I thought round Here was going to be a really
big deal because I thought it was unlike anything else.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I still think A Long December is probably the most
perfect thing I've ever written, right right?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do the songs feel different to you now when you
perform them with a history of performing them in a
history of life?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I mean I think they feel different to me every
time because I think I'm not trying to sing it
however I sang it, or be thinking about whatever I
felt the day I recorded it.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
I'm just trying to see how it feels right now.
She keeps them all fresh.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, and when you mentioned round Here, I always find
I love listening to that because it's got a nice
melancholy too, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
She only lasts when she's nervous. You know, it's just
it's just such a nice song.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm a first class moper.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Like I'm a top of the line mober when it
comes to that, I've got I've got a lot of experience.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
I can mope with the best one.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Does that make you fun at home?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I'm a joy to be around, you know. It's actually
my my band. They love my wife, and I think
it's because somehow as a result of her, I'm I'm
now more of whatever the word for, I don't know what,
not an asshole, whatever whatever that is. She's She's had
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a brilliant effect on me. I have trouble finding the
mope if anything, right, a pretty good state.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
When you travel, now, do you bring things from home?
Like is there a staple that you think, Well, I'm
on the road, I need to Teddy bear or special
knife and fork or book?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Are you that kind of a person.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
If I had to give one piece of advice to
a young musician right now?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Wipes, Yeah, wipes. You don't ever know what the toilet
paper's gonna be like wherever you go.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, but a good pair of wipes, you know, I
don't know. Yeah, I bring things. I bring my kindle
with me wherever I go. What else when we're on
tour in America, like I bring I have a bad back,
So there's certain pillows that.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Are good, so I bring them on the bus.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You don't want to be seen walking through an airport
carrying a pillow.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
No, no, I don't think you ever want to be
seen leaving your house with a pillow. There's a lot
of judgment.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Like if you're just leaving your house for any reason
with a pillow, it's like, you know what, I can't
just go back inside. But nevertheless I do. I put
it in the suitcase. I sneak it on the bus.
No one needs to know, only.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Us, ye, Stevie Nicks, she used to take a mattress
with her. She would take a giant ensemble mattress on
the road with it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Was that as to the well loading the guys.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
At the height of this six says to Fleetwood Mac
they had a medieval banquet set up backstage with a
pig on a spit.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No one ate it, you ask.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
When they came to Australia, our local promoter, Michael Chad
had to set up this medieval tent with a pig
on a spit and no one ate it.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Where did the mattress go on the bus?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that's that's the question I would have asked Stevee.
You know, I would love to ask her because mattresses,
I don't know, they are very cumbersome.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
But I mean, I guess if you just I mean sometimes,
I mean nowadays.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I had a problem a few years ago because the
mattress on the bus was just a foam pad. Yeah,
and after like two days on it, my back was
just killed. So we had made him change it out.
But I mean I didn't.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Bring it from home or anything or not.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I imagine maybe she just put it in the back
of the bus and it was where she slept.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yeah, you wouldn't take it to the hotel.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Although I heard that she took it to the hotel,
so it was a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Is that a power trip?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Maybe once again you'll have to ask Stevie.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
In the back of the tour bus, do you have
a bedroom like just to yourself?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Yeah, I do, because.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I need to run a humidifier to take keep my
voice together because there it's so dry on a bus.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So, before they had the buses with the bedroom in
the back. When it was just like a lounge back there.
I had to sleep on one of those circular couches
around a table because I could put the humidifier there.
I realized early on that without the humidifier, my voice
really got screwed up, so I would sleep. I don't
feel guilty about the bedroom in the back of the
bus at all, because I spent years curled around one
of these circular banquettes around a little table with the humidifier.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
That was not comfortable at all.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
So yeah, now we have two buses, the band is
split into uh and I have a room in the
back of our bus. Yeah, yeah, which is good because
like I need to shower after the Gigly the other
guys they don't.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I don't even think they sweat on stage there at most.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
This is not burning too many calories, nor is this
nor is it The drummer and I are.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
The only guys who are doing any effort on that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Now we've seen the just pay your watch in the
back because the last time we spiked to you, you
were talking about because we used to have an impressive
set of dreadlock hair, and the last time we spike
was when you you cut it all off and you
and you went to someone's house and you dunked your
hat under the seat.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I did that at a lot of houses. You just
I did that a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, you know, it was such a refreshing feeling when
you haven't like run your head underwater very much for
thirty years. It's just so nice, Like it was like
the sensation that was so pleasurable that I would like,
I'd be over a friend's house having dinner, and I
would like pass by the guest bathroom and I would
just like, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Almost worth the dread's back, so you can get rid
of them again to read discover the pleasure.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I'm okay, thank you for all.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
You know, I think they're just I really loved them
and they helped me like feel like myself for the
first time in my life. But I'm also fine without them.
You know, it's like nice to kind of you got.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Food, hay, you got solid hair.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
So it's doing okay. You know, it could be it
could be a lot worse. At my age.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You know, I got a fair amount of it left. Yeah,
and uh, you know I could use some more, but
that's not gonna happen. It doesn't go in that direction,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And if wander I'm fifty eight this year and I've
wondered about my own hair, and I've got a bit
of a Devon patch happening on the back. But you
know that what I see young guys in their thirties
and they they say to me, I want I just
want your hair.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So I'm very grateful for what I have.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I flex.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
No, it's not a flex, that's not non flex. That's
just I'm just rightful.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
You guys call them like the it's called the devon patch.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
The devon patch.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I mean, it happens to guys. Like.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The nice thing about is you don't think about it
much because you don't see it much. Yeah, but I've
realized in the last couple of years that with they
used to just be uh, you know, the big ampathy
as where we're playing in America, they have usually camera
crews because they're so big, they have the screens, you know. Yeah,
and usually the camera crews were just right out in
front of you. So even that was fine, But there's
a lot more sort of like AI runner mechanically run
(09:01):
cameras pods around the stage now and they catch you
from more angles than they used to. So I'll be
singing a song and I'll look up on the and
I'll see the screen like, oh damn, they got me there.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I love possibly one of the greatest songs, And you've
told me the story before, and I just love it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Is just how accidentally.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Love came about. Your approached to write a song for
the movie track. Yeah, and you just came up with it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Well, it took a while. I mean I almost I
was really stumped for a long time. I knew what
I wanted to do, but I was really having trouble
coming up with something that worked, that wasn't either too
heavy or too meaningless and kind of light. And I
was getting ready to leave for a European tour. I'd
been working on it for about a month, and I
was on the verge of calling DreamWorks up and saying, hey,
(09:55):
I don't want to leave you in the lurch. You
should call somebody else because I'm getting nowhere and I
have to go on tour. And then like two or
three days before we left, I got the verse music
and the chorus music, and maybe a verse and a
chorus lyrically and so I could just finish it in
hotel rooms. I finished it in some hotel rooms in England,
but I uh, I was this close to like calling
(10:16):
them up because I didn't want them to get screwed.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And was it just it just comes to Is that
how music comes to you?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I mean, usually it just happens. I don't, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I think part of the problem with Shrek was that
they needed a really specific kind of thing to fit
a specific scene, and I wanted it to be a
certain kind of thing. I wanted to be really upbeat
and fun, but I also wanted to have real meaning.
And I don't usually think that much about it before
I start writing. I just start writing and then I
think about, Oh, I can see what this is. It's
(10:44):
a feeling usually, whereas this one was having to think
about it ahead of time, and like plant, I think
it just kind of screwed me up.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I just couldn't get anywhere for a long.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And I would love to. I think we should just
play it now as we wrap this up with you,
and maybe you could do a little DJI interest. Do
you ever do a dj I introut to your own song?
I guess I could.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
You could.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So we've got accidentally in love. You're on gold, and
then we can play it all right, Okay, do you
do your best DJ if you want to.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Hey, this is Adam from Counting Crows. You're on gold
and you've got accidentally in love coming up right now.
Oh so smooth.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, not smooth, I'm not smooth, just cold excellent Adam,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
You're wonderful.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Thanks you guys,