September 9, 2026 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I watched Untold Ray Gunn Breaking Badly. This is the
new Netflix documentary about Rachel Gunn. I was, like, struck
by the beauty of her performance. At one point, she does.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This, like, beautiful spin and she grabs a cap and
I was like, oh, that was really nice.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I was like, if you just, as you come in,
if you just put the.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Other hand out, that's the sprinkler. It was the essence
of creativity. spring club the kangaroo the swimming it was
all about representing australia celebrating australia on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was the best performance i've seen it be like
i did it i'm glad i got to witness that.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's Rachel Raygun and her husband, Samuel Free, a.k.a.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sammy Sex.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I know a lot of people have said, I hope
I find someone who loves me as delusionally as her
husband loves her. I haven't seen the doco.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And you and I, let's just state our claim early
on before I want to, I really want to hear
what you thought of the doco. I don't know why
we didn't embrace her. I don't know why we didn't
see the humour in it and the underdog, the hilarity
of it, the kitsch of it. I don't understand why
Australia turned on her.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I remember the time when breakdancing was announced at the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You and I both went, breakdancing? Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But the Olympics really is a sport that has been
around for hundreds of years, and it's about showcasing different sports.
It's the best that your country can bring. And in
the case of Rae Grun, she represented us at the
Olympics in Paris for breakdancing.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She scored zero.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So it's not like she cheated the system. She scored zero.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So have other people at the Olympics, and we think,
isn't that hilarious?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But she went global after she performed, because everyone has
said exactly what you and I said. But having said that,
you watch this documentary, and what I did learn is
that she entered the competition to get selection with an
almost charming naivety.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So she is a b-girl. That's what the breakdancing community
call her. Break dancers, B-girls and B-boys.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And in this country, we've got some B-boys.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We don't have a lot of B-girls. So they had
a big thing, like an audition, a competition to get
the best B-boy and B-girl.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
She didn't select herself.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, to represent us at the Olympics. So they had
a thing. She went along. And as one of her
people said, of all the competitors on the spot, she
was the best.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
On the day.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
So what's our problem?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And you look at in the, you know, Eric the eel,
Eddie the eagle, the Jamaican bobsled team, all of those
guys were the best of their country.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And we love them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And they didn't hack the system.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But we love them for being the outliers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And a lot of people, there's a bit of this
conspiracy theory that Sammy hacked the system.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Her husband. He rigged it, but he didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They had an international judging panel that came to Sydney
and And judged it. And there was one girl on
there and said, they said, well, did you go to
go on it? Because she's a better breaker. And she said, no,
I didn't want to go on it. So, you know,
it's like me saying, I want to go to, I
don't know, what am I really good at?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Not much.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Like I was on Dancing with the Stars and I
was dreadful and people kept voting for me.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
This is the difference, isn't it? This is why I
think it's interesting. And you'd said before we were talking
about it that you thought it was misogynistic, the way
she was judged. Because all those failures and you, on
Dancing with the Stars. You weren't a failure.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was a failure.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
People find humour in men being klutzes and stuffing stuff
up and being the underdog. People feel humiliation when it
happens to women. I've always said that. It's harder to
be a woman dancing on Dancing with the Stars than
it is to be a man because people can laugh
at the man, but you can't laugh at a woman
being bad. They just feel sorry for you and it's
humiliating and makes people uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Because when I was on that show, that was 2013,
social media wasn't what it is now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It was a different kettle of fish back then.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
People have said that, and as I said, I haven't
seen it, that it looks like it's, Kath and Kim,
it looks like a piss take, this documentary.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like it's a mockumentary.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is it a serious documentary?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, it is. And they're taking themselves seriously?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
As I said, there's this nice naivety to them both.
I don't think they're deluded, but maybe naivety is a
little bit of delusion. But they're just nice people. I
don't think they're. They've done nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Because people are still– people who didn't like her first
time around after the Olympics have doubled down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah. I think people wanted Ray Gunn to say, oh, sorry, everyone.
I had no idea. I was in over my head.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But she says that in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Does she?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think she kind of does.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Because people felt that she'd sort of doubled down and said, well,
I had fun and it wasn't great, that the people
didn't get the apology from her that they wanted.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think it's worth, if you've got any opinion about her,
perhaps watch the documentary because I guarantee– By the end
of it, you like them both. And Richard Branson, he
of the airlines and the ships and all that stuff,
he actually reached out to Ray Gunn when she was
getting all the abuse and said, look, I'm going to
put you on one of my ships and you're going
to come with me and we're going to look after you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because he could see the, I guess, the novelty in it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But why couldn't we?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I didn't. It's classic Australian behaviour.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
An underdog doing sort of kitsch moves. The whole.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Closing an opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympics was all
that stuff, the sprinkler, the funny dancing, the kangaroo hops.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But if you put a guy out there doing that,
it would have been a different.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Kind of fish. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He would have become a hero. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Interesting. All right, well, I'll watch it, but I'm intrigued
by what you think.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'll get out my piece of lino and start breaking. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Breaking bad.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Breaking wind.
I watched Untold Ray Gunn Breaking Badly. This is the
new Netflix documentary about Rachel Gunn. I was, like, struck
by the beauty of her performance. At one point, she does.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This, like, beautiful spin and she grabs a cap and
I was like, oh, that was really nice.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I was like, if you just, as you come in,
if you just put the.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Other hand out, that's the sprinkler. It was the essence
of creativity. spring club the kangaroo the swimming it was
all about representing australia celebrating australia on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was the best performance i've seen it be like
i did it i'm glad i got to witness that.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's Rachel Raygun and her husband, Samuel Free, a.k.a.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sammy Sex.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I know a lot of people have said, I hope
I find someone who loves me as delusionally as her
husband loves her. I haven't seen the doco.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And you and I, let's just state our claim early
on before I want to, I really want to hear
what you thought of the doco. I don't know why
we didn't embrace her. I don't know why we didn't
see the humour in it and the underdog, the hilarity
of it, the kitsch of it. I don't understand why
Australia turned on her.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I remember the time when breakdancing was announced at the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You and I both went, breakdancing? Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But the Olympics really is a sport that has been
around for hundreds of years, and it's about showcasing different sports.
It's the best that your country can bring. And in
the case of Rae Grun, she represented us at the
Olympics in Paris for breakdancing.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She scored zero.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So it's not like she cheated the system. She scored zero.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So have other people at the Olympics, and we think,
isn't that hilarious?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But she went global after she performed, because everyone has
said exactly what you and I said. But having said that,
you watch this documentary, and what I did learn is
that she entered the competition to get selection with an
almost charming naivety.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So she is a b-girl. That's what the breakdancing community
call her. Break dancers, B-girls and B-boys.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And in this country, we've got some B-boys.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We don't have a lot of B-girls. So they had
a big thing, like an audition, a competition to get
the best B-boy and B-girl.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
She didn't select herself.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, to represent us at the Olympics. So they had
a thing. She went along. And as one of her
people said, of all the competitors on the spot, she
was the best.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
On the day.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
So what's our problem?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And you look at in the, you know, Eric the eel,
Eddie the eagle, the Jamaican bobsled team, all of those
guys were the best of their country.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And we love them.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And they didn't hack the system.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But we love them for being the outliers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And a lot of people, there's a bit of this
conspiracy theory that Sammy hacked the system.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Her husband. He rigged it, but he didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They had an international judging panel that came to Sydney
and And judged it. And there was one girl on
there and said, they said, well, did you go to
go on it? Because she's a better breaker. And she said, no,
I didn't want to go on it. So, you know,
it's like me saying, I want to go to, I
don't know, what am I really good at?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Not much.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Like I was on Dancing with the Stars and I
was dreadful and people kept voting for me.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
This is the difference, isn't it? This is why I
think it's interesting. And you'd said before we were talking
about it that you thought it was misogynistic, the way
she was judged. Because all those failures and you, on
Dancing with the Stars. You weren't a failure.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I was a failure.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
People find humour in men being klutzes and stuffing stuff
up and being the underdog. People feel humiliation when it
happens to women. I've always said that. It's harder to
be a woman dancing on Dancing with the Stars than
it is to be a man because people can laugh
at the man, but you can't laugh at a woman
being bad. They just feel sorry for you and it's
humiliating and makes people uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Because when I was on that show, that was 2013,
social media wasn't what it is now.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It was a different kettle of fish back then.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
People have said that, and as I said, I haven't
seen it, that it looks like it's, Kath and Kim,
it looks like a piss take, this documentary.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like it's a mockumentary.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is it a serious documentary?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, it is. And they're taking themselves seriously?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
As I said, there's this nice naivety to them both.
I don't think they're deluded, but maybe naivety is a
little bit of delusion. But they're just nice people. I
don't think they're. They've done nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Because people are still– people who didn't like her first
time around after the Olympics have doubled down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah. I think people wanted Ray Gunn to say, oh, sorry, everyone.
I had no idea. I was in over my head.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But she says that in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Does she?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think she kind of does.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Because people felt that she'd sort of doubled down and said, well,
I had fun and it wasn't great, that the people
didn't get the apology from her that they wanted.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think it's worth, if you've got any opinion about her,
perhaps watch the documentary because I guarantee– By the end
of it, you like them both. And Richard Branson, he
of the airlines and the ships and all that stuff,
he actually reached out to Ray Gunn when she was
getting all the abuse and said, look, I'm going to
put you on one of my ships and you're going
to come with me and we're going to look after you.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because he could see the, I guess, the novelty in it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But why couldn't we?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I didn't. It's classic Australian behaviour.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
An underdog doing sort of kitsch moves. The whole.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Closing an opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympics was all
that stuff, the sprinkler, the funny dancing, the kangaroo hops.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But if you put a guy out there doing that,
it would have been a different.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Kind of fish. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He would have become a hero. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Interesting. All right, well, I'll watch it, but I'm intrigued
by what you think.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'll get out my piece of lino and start breaking. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Breaking bad.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Breaking wind.
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