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September 1, 2026 • 48 mins

Worst Joke Wednesday goes from nerdy to naughty; who should be the next Queensland Origin coach? Alex Warren wows Brisbane at his first concert - and shares an incredible story of being shot! Growing up and not needing your parents; an amazing surrogacy story and Phil from Human Nature joins us...

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Rob and Kevin Corio. It's On Demand, the podcast.
Something we touched on briefly on the show today with
Alana from the newsroom. This idea for a new, a
third Brisbane football team in rugby league. So they got
Cori fired up about it, surprisingly. I'm, yeah, I didn't
think you'd have this.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Why is that fired up?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, I'm surprised you had this argument.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, I am too. Because I am all for the
one that they're suggesting. Having my kids been to... school
in Ipswich for a really long time. I know what
Ipswichians are like.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, so I'll get your take on it at halftime.
Somehow I've stumbled into a bunch of science jokes.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Okay, go on.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Why are electrons never invited to parties? Why? Oh, they're
so negative.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Daryl of Tingalpa, what's your joke?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
That's horrible, Kip.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Thank you. Thank you, Daryl. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
What have you got?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
One cow's walking from one paddock to another and gets
stopped by the second cow. The second cow asks him
what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
The first cow says, moving.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Moving.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I like the moo, too.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh, you're racy, you pippa bar. What's your joke?

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Okay, it's a clean one for you.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:12):
There's two nuns in the bar.

Speaker 8 (01:15):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:16):
One says to the other, where's the soap?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
The other one says, does, doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Hang on.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Two nuns in the bath. One says, where's the soap?
And what did she say?

Speaker 6 (01:25):
The other one says, it does, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Where's the soap? It does, doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 8 (01:36):
It does, but where's the soap?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 9 (01:40):
Two nuns.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Where's the soap? Hang on, we're not going until we
work this out.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
W-E-A-R-S.

Speaker 10 (01:46):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, where's the soap?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
It does, doesn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:51):
Did you get it?

Speaker 11 (01:53):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Where's the soap?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, my God, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I know.

Speaker 12 (01:56):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
None of us said we were smart.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Where's the soap? Oh, no.

Speaker 8 (02:01):
It'll take a while.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's going to take a while.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm still thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, Catherine of Nunda, what do you reckon?

Speaker 7 (02:07):
I've got a clean one for you, Rob.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Thanks, love.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hey, Catherine, just before you tell your joke, do you
get the soap one?

Speaker 13 (02:14):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
We're going to keep asking.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
I'm not as dumb as you guys either.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you, Catherine.

Speaker 12 (02:20):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
What have you got?

Speaker 7 (02:21):
Okay. A husband sent a text to his wife. Honey,
I got hit by a car outside the office. Tina
brought me to the hospital. They have been taking tests
and doing x-rays. The blow to my head is very strong,
maybe serious. Also, I have three broken ribs, a broken arm,
a compound fracture on my left leg. and they may
have to amputate the right foot. Wife responds, who is Tina?

Speaker 14 (02:46):
Tina bought into the hospital.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hang on, who the hell is this Tina woman?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think we've got time for one more round. So
what have you got?

Speaker 6 (03:02):
131065.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
And if you can explain the nun joke also, I'd
appreciate it. We started very blue. We've moved on from
that with our jokes so far this morning.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I know. It's like this rolling on effect. Yeah, once
it starts. The first joke sets the.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tone and then everyone's off.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And we've got Father's Day this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
So we'd love a good dad joke if you've got one, 131065.
By the way, when does a joke become a dad joke?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I don't know when.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
When the punchline is apparent.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
That was awful.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
When's the dad joke?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Marnie, out of Kalanga.

Speaker 13 (03:40):
Hi, how are you?

Speaker 8 (03:41):
Hey, Marnie, good.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
What have you got?

Speaker 7 (03:45):
What do you call lesbian chickens?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, what do you call them? What do you call
lesbian chickens?

Speaker 7 (03:50):
Sticky beaks.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Thank you, Marnie.

Speaker 11 (03:54):
Now.

Speaker 12 (03:57):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Our producers are both hiding their heads after that.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Both of them. Oh, come on, Rob. That's the best
way to go.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now, we got a joke earlier that none of us understood,
which was there's two nuns in the bath and one
of them says, where's the soap? And the other one says,
doesn't it? Which we don't understand.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Zilla of the Valley, can you explain this?

Speaker 13 (04:24):
I certainly can. Hello, everyone.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hello.

Speaker 10 (04:27):
Okay, you've got to play on words there with the
word wear.

Speaker 15 (04:31):
Yes, W-E-A.

Speaker 13 (04:31):
If something is being eroded, it wears away.

Speaker 10 (04:35):
Two nuns in the bath, where's the soap?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh, there's just too much soap in the bath and
then they're just wearing it.

Speaker 10 (04:43):
No, love, they're playing games.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Oh, they're playing games.

Speaker 16 (04:46):
It wears the soap.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, I gotcha. Do you got it?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I still don't have it.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
It wears it away.

Speaker 15 (04:54):
They're playing with the soap.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Okay, stop.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Making things slippery.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh, okay. Okay. Please, stop now.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I wish I didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Christine of Logan Lee, hi.

Speaker 13 (05:06):
Hey, how are you?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hey, Christine.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Please, please bring us home with something glorious.

Speaker 13 (05:11):
Okay. The owner of a drugstore walks in to find
a guy leaning heavily against the wall. The owner asks
the clerk, what's with the guy over there by the wall?
The clerk says, well, he came in here this morning
to get something for his cough. I couldn't find the
cough syrup, so I gave him an entire bottle of laxatives.
The owner says, you idiot. You can't treat a cough

(05:33):
with laxatives. The clerk says, oh, yeah, look at him.
He's afraid to cough.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
He is afraid to cough. Well, got that one.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
You know, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Can we finish off with an absolute pearl? Please, please.
What did the fish say when he swam into the wall?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
What?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
We've got New South Wales, our mortal enemies when it
comes to state of origin. the rest of the year,
we're fine.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
We're friends.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But come State of Origin time, it's warfare. Particularly, I
think Queensland definitely has shown to have more passion when
it comes to State of Origin.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Although there's, I've got some audio.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It does hurt them when you say that.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
It does.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And there's some audio coming up with someone throwing a
bit of a question mark on that because Billy Slater,
who's been our coach, has said he's no longer going
to be the coach, doesn't want to do it anymore.
Too much pressure, I guess.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Or why?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think, well, Billy's very, he's one of the most
passionate people I've ever met, honestly, with origin. When he
brought me back in 22, like that year, he actually,
he really made me understand the history of the game
a lot more. And actually, it put more passion in
that game than I've ever felt.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
How does he do that?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Did he tell you? I don't know. It's just the
way he does it. He went back into the, When
it started, I remember the video that he made just
for the players to watch. Honestly, it was one of
the coolest things I've ever seen in my life. And
I went, holy hell, there's a different reason why I'm
playing now. It actually made me get goosebumps and made

(07:15):
it so different for me at that age.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think it was just more the– it was a
lot of– he's a busy man, Billy, and I feel
like it was just– He didn't want it to become
something too much, too much for him. So I think
he wanted to give it on to someone that could
actually give it more time.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
But there isn't anyone.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
No, and no one's put their hand up. You put
someone's hand up for them in Darius Boyd. You said
you think Darius, who's, you know, Bronco's fullback forever and
also always attached to Wayne Bennett as like a protege.
And since then, other people have asked Darius the question.
You coached under-19s, Origin Darius.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Would you be keen to do it?

Speaker 15 (07:55):
Oh, look, it's a huge role. It's something that I'd–
QRL rang me.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I'd definitely have that conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's not really like, yes, I want it. I'll have
the conversation.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
No, but I think that's just being humble. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
He's very humble.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Dubs will never say, yeah, I want it. Like, give
it to me. He'll never say that. He'll love the
phone call if he gets it.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And his rugby league dad in Wayne Bennett has said
sort of similar things. Like he said, I'll do it
if they call me. but I think you should choose
someone else.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, I think he would be saying that because I
reckon they could find someone long-term.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Which is what I think they can do.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh, he'll go, I'll put my hand up for one year.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'll do a year.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Get you through a spot. And I reckon Darius would
be someone long-term because Darv's one of those guys who,
very similar to Wayne, that I reckon would get the
perfect people around him. And that's where it's really important.
Like Billy had, you know, your Smithies and JT, whereas
Darv's would probably have the similar staff and, And I
really think it'd be a great choice. I truly do

(08:59):
because the passion will still be there. The care, the want.
The way they would do it would be very similar
to the way Billy would, I reckon. And Darius has
done it in the 19s. It's not easy, if I'm honest.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
His coaching in the 19s has been great.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, and if you've watched the 19s, he actually brings
out these young kids where he goes and watches and
picks and A lot of work. He puts a lot
of work.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
So he puts all their time and effort into it.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
A lot of work and time and effort.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, that's what you want.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And that's exactly what I mean. You want that. You
want that sort of person.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And the most passionate blue I think we ever saw
was Paul Gullen. And Paul Gullen has had this to say,
and it's given him a fair bit of fuel.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
What's going on.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
With the Queenslanders? If they stay with so much passion
and spirit, they can't get a coach.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Where's your Queensland spirit now, Thurston?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Thurston, where is it?

Speaker 15 (09:47):
Mate, you lose one series. You lose one series and
you can't get a coach.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Mate, we've got plenty.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Imagine you lost eight. Origin would be over.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
We've got plenty.

Speaker 15 (09:54):
See, we just kept turning.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
We've got plenty.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
We've got plenty.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Mate, who's going to take your job?

Speaker 15 (09:58):
Who's going to take your job?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I love how New South.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Wales win one series.

Speaker 15 (10:02):
It's one in a row, mate.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
One in a row.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
It is good fuel for it, though. It is interesting.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Here we are.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I love Gale because he copped it. Out of all
of them, he copped it and he fronted.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Up and he gave it back.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
For a dude that was New South Wales for so long,
copped for so long, Any time he gets an inch,
he'll take a mile.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I will say that as a parent, the times that
Gallon was playing was the only time my children were
allowed to yell at the television during State of Origin.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I know.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Gallon is a wanker. I'm sorry I said it, but
it was the one and only time.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Acceptable.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I like that.

Speaker 15 (10:52):
Robin Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Alex Warren is here right now. He's playing at the
end set. I played last night. We thought maybe he
wasn't going to because he was sick in New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And Drew, our boss, was he good?

Speaker 9 (11:03):
Amazing, yeah, absolutely amazing. And his story is incredible too.
Lost both of his parents at a young age, 9
and 21.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
Sings most of his songs about, you know, that experience.
He's funny, swears like an absolute trooper.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Does he? Yeah. So he's a true Aussie larrikin.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, he's American.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
No, I know.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
But he is, yeah. He's in Australia, right?

Speaker 13 (11:22):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And you also were listening to this, I'm surprised at
all the research you did before going to see a show.
You actually listened to a podcast that he was on?

Speaker 9 (11:31):
A mate of mine put me onto this, the Jay
Shetty podcast.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Oh, he's great.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Jay Shetty's the best.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Talking to Alex, 90 minutes. I'd never sit through a
90-minute podcast, but just fascinating.

Speaker 15 (11:40):
How did you get.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Into, you are like the grungiest sort of would-be triple
M dude with your music taste. How did you get
into Alex Warren?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (11:50):
It must be an age thing.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I must be getting older.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right. And then you deep dive.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
And then you deep dive. And this is a pretty
incredible story he told.

Speaker 16 (11:56):
I ended up getting shot by my friend's dad with
a 177, which is like a BB. You know, you
hunt deer or rabbits or something with it. And the
way it's shaped is supposed to do as much damage
in the animal.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It was an accident.

Speaker 16 (12:11):
You didn't mean to or you didn't understand the scope
of it. I think a lot of the guys who
grew up in the 70s and 80s would shoot each
other with pellet guns. Like that was the thing. I
don't think they realized this wasn't a pellet gun. It
was like a hunting rifle. I don't know if he
knew it was loaded, but we were filming a video
and he said, run.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I ran.

Speaker 16 (12:26):
And damn, was he a good shot. He nailed me
right in the liver.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
And it went up.

Speaker 16 (12:30):
It missed my heart by a few centimeters and it's
stuck in my lung today.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's still there today? Yeah.

Speaker 12 (12:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (12:37):
It's so small that if you were to, if you
x-ray it, you can see it. But if you were
to pull it out, you'd have to break my ribs
and it'd be a chance I would die. And it's
just not worth it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
So he's got effectively a bullet in his lung.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, that's... That is insane.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm trying at that.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Isn't it interesting that the body hasn't chosen to try
and pass it?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Get it out.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because sometimes that's what happens when a foreign object is
stuck in the body.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, if it's in your lung, is it?

Speaker 12 (13:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So she's just sitting in there rattling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
But it went through his liver.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (13:08):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's extraordinary. Because I think famously 50 Cent has got
a bullet that's still there. I mean, it seems less
surprising to know that 50 Cent's got a bullet than
Alex Warren. But yeah, he's got one that's still in there.
So 131065. Okay. What have you got? Well, when did
you get something stuck in your body? I'd love to know.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And it's still there or just if it was stuck
and then.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh, I mean, you can have it removed.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Have you got one that was there for a bit? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
There's a fair chance it's still in there, but I
wouldn't know.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
What?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Because of an operation?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Okay, so I'll tell you the story because it's so bad.
But as a kid, I was pretty bad. I did
a lot of things that my parents told me not to.
So when they say no, I'm like, yes. And so
on the trampoline, we used to always play games. We
could jump the highest. We could do the most stupid things.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
This would have been before trampolines had the cages around?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, had the real thick steel around them.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So me and my brother, I don't know why, but
who could jump on the knees the highest? Oh. Which is,
by the way, don't do it. It is so hard
to balance and go straight. I learned the hard way.
So I've jumped, jumped, bang on my knees and I've gone,
I beat his record by a mile.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Of course you did.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
But I've gone forward and come down. And as I've
come down, I've landed and smacked my forehead on the
edge of the trampoline. Right.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
No pads back then either.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
No pads. And I split my whole, my forehead open,
ran inside. Anyway, go to Bralabaugh Hospital. Which I'll tell
you right now, it's not a big hospital. Anyway, all
I remember is mum and dad telling me this story
is that they super glued it together. Super glue? At
my forehead.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's what they do instead of stitches.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And as they super glued it, they pulled it and
the guys pulled the whole glove, but the thumb and
index finger got stuck in my forehead.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Like the surgical glove?

Speaker 15 (14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
So I had gloves. So I don't know, they either
had to cut it out.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You probably have some plastic stuck.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
That could explain a lot of things, that I've got
plastic stuck in my brain.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I wonder if they ever considered inflating it and making
you look like a rooster.

Speaker 15 (15:17):
Anyway, there you go.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's what we're up to. Kids, you may apply. Lego
has been stuck in many places. 131065, what have you
had stuck in your body?

Speaker 15 (15:28):
Robin, Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Teresa of Petrie, what is that?

Speaker 8 (15:33):
Good morning. I have a sewing needle in my right
foot that I stepped on at some stage, and it's
still there 30-odd years later.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
30 years?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
What?

Speaker 15 (15:44):
Why didn't you get it out?

Speaker 10 (15:46):
Well, I didn't realize at first.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
It was only found incidentally when I had an X-ray
for a broken toe, and the little Asian radiographer nearly
had kitties. You have a needle stuck in your foot.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
No, I don't.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Yes, you do.

Speaker 12 (16:00):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
So, yeah, and I've seen a specialist and it's encapsulated
and they don't want to risk, as with Alex Warren, further.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, damage by removing it.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
So just leave it.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Yeah, so an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
That is crazy. Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Save you just to leave that needle there forever.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Courtney of Capella Bar, what have you got stuck in
your body?

Speaker 12 (16:21):
Hey, how are you going?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Great.

Speaker 15 (16:24):
So.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Back in my youth, I was quite intoxicated anyway.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
I was drinking at the Normanby and I fell over
and I fell on a bit of glass.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
I had denim shorts on.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
So I pulled the glass out, went to hospital, they
washed it out.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
And then a few weeks later, it just wasn't getting
better and I couldn't figure it out.

Speaker 10 (16:42):
And a bit of.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
Denim flew out.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
Of the wood.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
We had denim.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, you had jeans, basically.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You had denim legs.

Speaker 12 (16:52):
Because the glass I impaled into my left bottom cheek.
And yeah, a couple of weeks later, a bit of
denim flew out.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I've seen some tight denim shorts that I've wondered if
they actually are going to become part of a human before,
but I've never.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Heard of it. You had a denim cheek, actually.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Lynn Adam-Moggle, your father, what did he have?

Speaker 14 (17:16):
He's got a bullet stuck in his spine since 1953
and he's now 97 years old and it's still there.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
From a war?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Like from Vietnam?

Speaker 13 (17:26):
No.

Speaker 14 (17:26):
No, it was back then. He lived in the forestry
area and he went shooting with my grandfather and he
got hit by a ricocheted bullet.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Ah.

Speaker 14 (17:38):
Went through his kidney, landed in the muscle in his spine.
And because he was such a fit young man, the
muscle stopped the bullet from going actually into his spine.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
And back then, that was.

Speaker 14 (17:49):
The same thing. Safer to leave it in than take
it out.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
And he's 97 now.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
He's 97.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
So it obviously doesn't hurt him. You reckon they told
the truth? What?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
They went hunting together and there was a ricochet bullet.
I'm like, come on, father and son going shooting.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And someone shot him on purpose?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh, there's got to be something going on there. Jerry
had a rickley.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Hey, Jerry.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
How are you guys? Good, mate.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
What's stuck?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
So this happened to my nephew. So he actually inserted like,
you know, the seed, bean seed into his nose. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
A bean seed.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
And we didn't realize like this for three, four days.
And he started crying with pain. And then we took
him to the hospital and they took the beans out,
which was sprouted.

Speaker 13 (18:40):
Oh!

Speaker 15 (18:41):
What?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It sprouted?

Speaker 12 (18:43):
No.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Yeah, because it obviously wet there and was the right temperature.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's revolting.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
So that actually happened?

Speaker 13 (18:51):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah, this actually happened, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh, that poor kid.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
So you know how your parents always say, don't eat
the seeds that will grow out your ears?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, they were wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
It actually happened.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Out of his nose.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
And Sophia of Strathpine, what happened?

Speaker 10 (19:05):
So when I was about, I would say, four years old,
my mum and dad both have a different story, but
ended up having a head wound and they fixed it
with a pig skin.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you mean? Like a skin graft?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Of pig skin?

Speaker 10 (19:23):
Yeah, well, no, no, like there's still like a big
scar on top of my head, but yeah, they used
pig skin to fix it.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Don't put your head too close to a pan.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
That was in the night.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow. It'll crackle.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So you had some pig skin in your head.

Speaker 13 (19:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's wild. I wonder if it's got little curly.

Speaker 15 (19:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (19:44):
Hair definitely grows different there.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, the hair grows differently.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Does it match your skin tone? Is the tone right?
It's very pink pig skin.

Speaker 10 (19:55):
Well, you can't really see.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
I've got a lot of hair.

Speaker 13 (19:58):
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's handy.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, wow.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, you know, I was wondering, are we going to
get any calls for this? And there's more coming through.
So if you've got one, we can even add it
to the podcast.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So 131065.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I can't get it about the pea. It's growing. The bean.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
The bean that sprouted.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
That's incredible.

Speaker 15 (20:17):
Robin Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Halfway through the podcast, so the story in the news
today is that Obviously, Perth's getting their rugby league team
next year. Then the year after that, it's the Chiefs
and PNG. There's talk about a second team for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, that's fair enough.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
The Wilds have such support.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Massive, yeah. And they're talking about Christchurch, Wellington, I think.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, whatever's... Speaking of which, did you see that Nathan
Cleary's brother debuted?

Speaker 13 (20:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Jet, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, Jet, he played. They won.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Is he similar? He's younger, obviously.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Younger, a lot younger.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Seven years younger than Nathan.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
And it was interesting. God, I can't even believe I
know this and I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
But I watched a picture of like a reel of
him coming off at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And there was Nathan, there was Ivan, his dad, and
there was his mum. Who did he hug first?

Speaker 13 (21:08):
Mum.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Surely mum.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
What? Really? Ivan?

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Ivan.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Nathan?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Mum.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
She hung on the longest, though.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
She was waiting for the big one. She was the crescendo.
And so he's playing for the Warriors.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And he's good.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh, yeah. No, they've been rating him for a while now,
saying he's a very good player.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
And he's only young, so he can only get better.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
And you told me his mum played as well.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I believe his mum is an ex-Union player. I don't
have the exact stat, but I could be wrong, but
I swear to God, she's a union player.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Mrs.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Cleary.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Let's talk to Mr.

Speaker 12 (21:49):
Google.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Mrs.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Google.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
What about the Bloodlines, though?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now you probably understand why they're so good, but I
would love to see another team in New Zealand. I
really think it's a smart idea with the Junior Rugby League,
how they're going.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, and I think that stadium that they've built, I
think it's Christchurch Stadium.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I've heard that it's like awesome. Yeah. And it's perfect.
Like they are crying out for one and they deserve one.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
They do. I think if the Whas win this year,
it'll be a lock.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
It'll be guaranteed. But yeah, so the other thing which
Alanda told us today is that the third team they're
talking about for Brisbane is Ipswich, an Ipswich team.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Which it does feel like that's rugby league heartland.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
No, I know.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
But it's my big thing. Well, my big thing is
just I don't want to bring teams in that are
going to cost them, right? I don't know what Ipswich is.
I don't know where they are, but I don't think
they're very wealthy.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
The Jets.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah. I look at a team like East, East Tigers.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I know they're wealthy. They've got a great ladies club.
They've got that whole area there. They've spent money on it,
I think.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Great facilities.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Great facilities.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's got bus lanes everywhere.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's got a bus depot right there, like straight across,
like a massive area for public transport. Like they've got
everything you need to have almost a new stadium, like
one that could fit 20,000, I would think. But they've
got everything there. And they've got the money.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You want the supporter base.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I know you want the supporter base, but how many
people live out there? Are you telling me they're going
to get enough people to every game if they have
a stadium out at Ipswich?

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Do you really think about that? They might.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
You've got Augustine Heights, Springfield, Greenslake. Like all out there.
Then you bring them in from Esk. And the T-Bar.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's easy to say you bring them in, but do you?
How do you know the confidence you're going to get that?
I've played out at Ipswich against Ipswich. It wasn't that
many people.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Really?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
At a local game?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Local game.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I have played out there.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Do you want to know about Nathan Cleary's mum?

Speaker 15 (23:55):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Before focusing on her family, Bec was a trailblazing athlete herself.
She played elite women's rugby union and was selected in
Australia's first ever Women's Rugby World Cup squad. She was
later inducted into the New South Wales Waratahs Inaugural Hall
of Fame in 2024. Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
The gene pool was strong in that one.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
And now, what about if Nathan and Mary have a kid?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
That's like... Insanity.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
They're going to... Superhuman.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
What type of.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Person will this be?

Speaker 12 (24:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
A good-looking one with a very strong cheek.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That is interesting, though, when you think that. So Nathan's
mum is a professional athlete, and now he's also going
for a professional athlete.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (24:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
He sees how it's done.

Speaker 13 (24:42):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
This is how the clear is rolled. This is how
I've turned out, so I may as well follow the gene.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, it's worked out okay.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm pretty talented myself.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
That's what he said. Yep. This is nuts.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I reckon... Do you reckon Nathan's going to end up
playing the last of his rugby league over in England?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Because of Mary?

Speaker 13 (25:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Because she's living there.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I reckon he'll go once he's ready.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I don't think he'll play over there. I think he'll
just finish and go over.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
What about when he's like 28, go over there.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And take some cash? He's 28. You know that, right?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I was going to say, he's older.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
He's 29.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
He's actually 20.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think he's 30 this year.

Speaker 12 (25:19):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is he really?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, wow. Okay. But why would you? She's getting paid
a mota to go over there. Yeah, but he'll still
want it. You don't need to play.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
He'll want to contribute.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
He would have.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I reckon he'll go and contribute over there.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I don't think that sort of couple that would be like,
I earn more than you.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
What?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Huxley's birthday, 14th of November?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
No, 16th.

Speaker 13 (25:36):
12th.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
16th.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah. Nathan Cleary's is the 14th.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, it's close enough.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
And he's going to be turning– he's 28. He's turning 29.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Do you want to know who has the same birthday
as Huckston? Who?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Great man.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Jake Turpin. The Terps. The Terpinator.

Speaker 13 (25:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I love the Terps.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
And if you look up his old photos, Robin, Terps
had the worst haircut for about 15 years.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Legend.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
And he's a great player.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And he loves it that he's born on the same
day as Hux. He said, I'll teach you everything. I said,
please don't.

Speaker 12 (26:06):
Don't.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Rob and Kip and Corey Oates.

Speaker 15 (26:11):
In the morning.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Okay, yesterday was a weird day in my life and
I actually do want some advice from you guys because
I'm in this really interesting situation.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
Hang on.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (26:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
I'm in this really interesting parental situation where my kids
are no longer teenagers. They're becoming young adults.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And there's this weird thing about how do you parent?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Wait, aren't your kids like 27 and 6 and stuff?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
No, no, no. They're 21.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You just realised this?

Speaker 13 (26:37):
No.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
But here's the thing. Here's what happened yesterday. And tell me,
and I want your, how you dealt with your parents
and then how you would want your kids to deal
with you. So yesterday was the 12th anniversary of the
boy's dad's death.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
So yeah, 12 years ago.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, but it's also, you know, the guys, he's now
been dead longer for two out of the three of them.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Than he was alive.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
So the boys were nine, 12 and 14 when their
dad took his own life. So- It's a weird time.
And after the 10th anniversary, the boys said, let's not
do anything. And they have decided that on Father's Day,
which wasn't that a cruel joke. Tony died on the Monday.
Father's Day was on the Sunday.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
They want to do something on Father's Day. So they've
organized we're going to do a picnic and that'll be lovely.
But here's the weird parenting question for you. So I'm
heightened yesterday just trying to just check in, make sure
everyone's okay. But my kids are young adults. And I'm thinking,
I can't parent them. Like, should I be calling them?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Should I just let them call me?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Like, it's such a different space to be in.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Did any of them call you? Call you?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
All three of them did.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
They did.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Okay, so good.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
But it was later.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And then, well, what I decided to do was send
them a text.

Speaker 13 (27:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
And then Lou called me first, my middle son, and
then the other two followed as they finished work and stuff.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But my question is this, right? Like when I think
back to me being 18, 19, 20, probably up to
almost 30, like I went overseas and didn't call my
mum for months.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Months.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And I didn't like it. I mean, of course I
love my mum so much, but I didn't think about it.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
But now that I'm the mother and I'm going, well, should.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
I call them?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
What did you do? And what would you want to
have happen?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's interesting the want to happen because I think it's
now that we've got little ones, it's like, It's exhausting
how much they need me right now. But at the
same time, it's like you do want to think you're
always going to be a little part of their life.
So I only really ever called my parents in crisis,
I think, during those 18 to 30. Pretty much when

(28:54):
I needed money.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'd just say, you know, get some spare cash or what.
And that was acceptable.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, like I said, you haven't gone wrong. Yeah, you
occasionally have a check-in, but it's normally– but mostly it's like, hey,
this is going on. What should I do? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
But isn't that mortifying to think that that's what your
children are doing?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I would talk to them a lot more, I reckon,
in the first few years of when I left school.
But I went to boarding school. So for me, it's different.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, because you left quite young.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, from grade 8 to grade 12, I was in
boarding school.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Did you have a phone there? Like, could you call
them at night?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
They would have said I didn't because– They hardly heard
from me.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
But you had one, but you just didn't call.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (29:34):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
So if you were in my position, like a significant
day in your life, would you touch base with your
kids or would you let them?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I personally believe it's, it was nice that they did
it for you. Like they rang you because they knew
for like, you know, in a weird way, It's probably
going to hurt you. It's hard. It's a bigger day,
kind of, I feel like. Yes, it's their dad, but
I feel like, you know, you lived and had the
life and there's a little bit more.

Speaker 15 (30:03):
See, I think the opposite.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I think it was much.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
More impactful for them. I just think it was really
nice that they did.

Speaker 15 (30:08):
All ring you.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Oh, no, my boys, we're very, very close.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
But I think that's the perfect way to do it. Yeah,
you played it right. You want them to ring you.
I thought that was great.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
You played it right.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think that's perfect, yeah.

Speaker 15 (30:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, you wouldn't want to call them and anything you
want to talk about because, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's weird. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
And it's not fair. I know.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's a hard one.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And, you know, it's none of my business.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Like, you do you, boo. Yeah. But it's hard, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I remember a couple of years ago, my mum calling
me and having a bit of a chat. And she's like,
you know, we're just talking about whatever. And she's like,
anything else?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Anything else?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I was like, nah, nah, that's all.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah. Are you going to tell me it was her birthday?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was her birthday.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Kip Whiteman.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
You did not.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
I did.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I chatted for ages.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I was just talking about, nah, nothing else.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Nah, that's me. Done.

Speaker 13 (30:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Did she finally.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Then I saw the group text from everyone going, happy birthday, mum.
And I was like, oh, no. That's what she was
going for.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I reckon there's a good chance Rafi may well do
that to you.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's going to do that for me for sure. For sure.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I'll even pay him too.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's funny.

Speaker 15 (31:08):
Robin, Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
We were talking about the worst pain you could possibly feel.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, no, it wasn't. It was after 8.30 because Corey
was being so disparaging about childbirth.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I was not. You went into childbirth and I went,
I don't like this. I don't like these two.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well, your point was if you can take that level
of pain, then what's the deal with the paper cuts?
There we go.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And you still never gave me an answer.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
No, I'm not going to give you an answer because
it's offensive.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, we never got to this person, but we're told
by our producers that we need to. So 131065 is
our number.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Melissa, out of Burpingary High.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Hi, how you doing, guys?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Great.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (31:47):
So with my second baby, he was face up, so
direct posterior. He was stuck in my pelvis. The doctors
had to put a vacuum on. So there was one
doctor with the vacuum and then another doctor holding that
doctor's waist up. that was pulling, both of them pulling
the baby out.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
That sounds like a comedy skit.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
How are they so stuck? They're yanking. I thought they
were meant to come out.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
He was stuck. So they were talking about breaking my
baby's shoulder on my pelvis.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I've heard of that.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
Because it was too far through the birth canal to
be able to push back for caesarean. I was drug
free because the epidural didn't work.

Speaker 13 (32:22):
Oh, man.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
So it was horrendous. And then silly me went back
and had five more babies.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
What?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So five more. So you've got six.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
No.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I had three surrogate babies, so two were for myself
and three are surrogate.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Okay, that is so interesting to me, Melissa, because surrogacy
you cannot get paid for in this country. Did you
do it for other people, like people you knew?

Speaker 8 (32:43):
I did.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
I did it for three different families.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
That you knew or that were?

Speaker 1 (32:47):
No.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Really?

Speaker 6 (32:49):
No, there's Facebook pages, Facebook groups.

Speaker 13 (32:52):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
And there's a lot of families in Australia that need surrogates.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
But your experience was so bad. Weren't you afraid it
was going to happen again?

Speaker 6 (32:59):
See, a paper cut lasts for a couple of days
and it's really irritating.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Now I'm denied that the paper cut.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
It lasts until it's over and then you completely forget
about it. That's how the brain is designed.

Speaker 12 (33:12):
We forget.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Melissa, tell me about the moment if you're birthing. So
you've had your own child, then you had a second.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Of your own.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (33:19):
I had two more of my own.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Two more of your own.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And then you decide to do surrogacy. I think the
question everyone wants to know is when you give birth
by surrogate, is there a moment where you feel that
you want to hold on to that baby? Absolutely not.

Speaker 15 (33:33):
Really?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
I used to say that I'm just an extreme babysitter.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
LAUGHTER Fair enough.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
I'm looking after this baby. I'm growing this baby. It
wasn't any of my genetics. These embryos were created by
the birth families.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
And you can obviously, you know, because you had a
child that was your own. So that feeling you got
when your child was born, your maternal child, and you
just wanted to hold them straight away, it was a
completely different feeling.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Absolutely. It's, It's more of a feeling of love for
the entire family that I've created, not necessarily the baby.
I don't want to hang on to the baby. My
body says, yes, I want this baby. So I produce
milk and I go through all of the emotional changes,
the hormonal changes. I do all of that. So yeah,

(34:20):
there's lots of emotional ups and downs and whatnot. And
I crave... the baby being in my space, but I
don't crave the baby as my own.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
So did you ever feed those babies or you just
completely disconnect from the moment of birth?

Speaker 15 (34:38):
No.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
So the first baby I did feed, direct feed, while
I was in the hospital. And then I expressed for
quite some months and gave the baby milk. And then
the distance was too far to commute the milk. So
I actually donated my milk to another mother locally who
couldn't have milk of her own. So that sort of

(35:01):
helped two families in one in that lot. And then
the next baby, he was from New South Wales. I'm
from Queensland. So that didn't work either. So I just
pumped while he was here in Queensland for the few
weeks after life. And then he went home and did
his own thing. And then the third one, that was
just a local baby as well. So I donated to
him for a period of time as well.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
That is incredible.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
And do you have any contact with these children now?

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I have contact with my first and my third regular contact.
I actually do birthdays and Easters and Christmases and all
of that with my first. She's just on the Gold Coast.
My second, not so much. We do occasionally communicate. He
doesn't know who I am. But I do communicate with
the family. And the third one, she's just a local.

(35:49):
They've gone travelling and he knows, he will know what
I did for him when the time's right.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yes, truly.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're an amazing woman.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
There's a lot more of me in Australia than people realise.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
There's still not enough.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I feel like we could do more. Yeah, we need
more of you.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, we need.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Will you do it again, Melissa, or are you done?

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I'm 47 and I've had seven babies. So if my
children needed me to do it, absolutely, 100%. Well done.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well done because... And I'm actually pregnant with.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
with my second surrogate at the same time my oldest
daughter was pregnant with my grandson. So that was quite sweet.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
You are a wonderful story, Melissa, of true altruism and
kindness and love. Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Thank you. Like I said, there's a lot more of
me out there than we realise. A lot of women
do it and we all love doing it.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
No, stop downplaying it. You're awesome.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
No, you're awesome.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
We think you're amazing.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yes, thanks, Melissa.

Speaker 16 (36:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Thanks, guys.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Have a good day.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Robyn, Keith and Corey Oates in the Now, we've been
talking about the worst pain you've ever felt. We've got
this amazing story from Melissa who is telling us her
second baby was, was it spine to spine?

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, like horrendous.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Horrendous nightmare. And yet went on to have five more
kids and three of those as a surrogate. And we
got into that story, which is just incredible.

Speaker 15 (37:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
So, Melissa, we've still got you on the line because
someone has called through. Hello, Leah.

Speaker 15 (37:19):
Hello.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
Good morning.

Speaker 10 (37:21):
Hey, Leah.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Now, what is your relationship to Melissa?

Speaker 12 (37:25):
We are the intended parents of lucky family number three.
So Mel had our second child for us, which was
her third journey.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Now, you say intended. So even though it's past tense,
even though you now have the child as a parent,
do you continue to say intended?

Speaker 12 (37:43):
No, we're now parents.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh, you are now parents.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
So Leah, tell me your journey. How did you get
to the point of finding Melissa and her becoming your surrogate?

Speaker 12 (37:54):
So we had actually been on this Facebook group. My
first child and her last child are very similar in
age and are both due in June 2014. And we
had a mother's group on Facebook, even though she was
living interstate. So we connected through there. And then later
down the track, my journey changed after I'd had my

(38:15):
first child, and we reconnected through the surrogacy community when
we needed to find a stranger.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Right.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
So you had your first child naturally or through IVF?

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (38:24):
Yes, I had him naturally, but I had an emergency
hysterectomy right there and then when I had him.

Speaker 15 (38:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (38:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
So, I mean, Melissa's changed your life, right?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (38:35):
Oh, absolutely. She helped us complete our family when we
didn't have any other means to.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Melissa, listening to Leah, does it remind you of the birth?
What is your contact with this family now?

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Oh, we still have regular contact. They're living in the
next suburb to me.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And how old's your child.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Now, Leah?

Speaker 12 (39:01):
Peyton is three and a half.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
So Peyton's the one that hasn't sort of been told
the story, the full story yet?

Speaker 12 (39:09):
No, he hasn't been at the point where he's asking
where babies come from, but absolutely. It's all part of
the original agreement and everything. He will always know how
he came to be.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Hey, Mel, so your kids that are yours, I guess,
do they hang out with the other ones, the ones
that you've, I guess, brought into this world for other families?

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Yeah, I've got photos with all of my kids and
my first surrogate and with Peyton and obviously with the
second one as well. But that was when he was
just a couple of weeks old. We haven't seen him
since he was born, the second one. But they all
know that they were never our babies. They all know
that they were for these particular families.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
What do they treat them like though? Is there a
different connection to just a friend though? Is it more
like a cousin? How do they feel about the kids?

Speaker 6 (40:01):
No, I don't think so. They know they came from me,
but they know they're not our genetics, so they're just
like extended family friends.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Family friends.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Tell me, what was the tricky stuff around negotiating all
of this?

Speaker 6 (40:16):
I think the most trickiest part was trying to maintain
friendship while we're trying to do this type of massive,
massive thing.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
For each other as well.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
And what about for you, Leah?

Speaker 12 (40:29):
Yeah. I think the most important thing, and we experienced
it ourselves, getting to the point that we could finally
go ahead with Mel, but even exploring options with others,
is ensuring that values align and that you're on the
same page with everything. Because without that, and because it's
such an important team journey, not just for the intended

(40:51):
mother and the surrogate, but the husbands and the family
involved as well, because obviously it takes a massive toll
on them too.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's worth saying as well, for those that don't know,
because you hear about it in America a lot more,
but in Australia it's illegal to pay anyone to do it.
It has to be a gift. Wow. What an incredible
gift it is.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
How do you feel about Melissa, Leah?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (41:12):
Just eternal gratitude because without her selflessness and without her
putting her hand up and, you know, out of the goodness,
purely out of the goodness of her own heart, you know,
we would be able to complete our family, as I said.
So it's just no words could describe, you know, the
gratefulness and the gratitude we have for her.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And Melissa, I would ask you, what would you say
to other people who are considering this?

Speaker 6 (41:36):
Absolutely go ahead and do it, but you have to
be in the right team. There has to be an
enormous amount of trust and respect and love between everybody.
And as a surrogate, my entire family needed to be
on board, my husband, my children, everybody, because I'm going
through the physical aspects of a pregnancy, but the extended family,

(41:59):
my husband and my kids, are going through it. That
as well, and they lost me for a period of
time as a complete mother because I was hormonal and
I was cranky and I was.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
And none of them would have been brave enough to
mention it, I bet.

Speaker 13 (42:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I couldn't do what.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
I would ordinarily be able to do for my family
while I was so heavily pregnant.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Well, thank you so much for sharing your story, you two.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Thank you, Melissa.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Thank you, Leah.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (42:29):
Thank you, no problem.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Thanks, guys.

Speaker 15 (42:31):
Robin Kip and Corey Oates. In the morning.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
It's Robin Kip and Corey Oates on KISS 97.3 and
Human Nature coming back to Brisbane. Right now in the
studio we have, assuming the other boys can't listen, our favourite.
A human nature person, Phil Burton.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
G'day, Phil. Good morning, guys.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Thank you for having me. Even if the other guys
can't hear it, you know, you can say it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Well, you're the only Australian living human nature.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I am.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
You have the boys come back again.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
The boys are back.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
No, no, the boys are back for this concert, but
I am, yeah, I'm living in Sydney now.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Does that all work with you guys?

Speaker 4 (43:07):
It does.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It does.

Speaker 11 (43:08):
It was a bit awkward at first after I left
Las Vegas because I'd been there for, you know, 11
and a half years.

Speaker 12 (43:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And the other guys stayed there.

Speaker 11 (43:14):
So they're still there now and they do a show
as a trio over there. But then when they come
back to Australia, I join back in. So it's the
original four. So as I said, it was a bit
awkward at first but now it's been six years so
we're kind of used to it and it's quite fun
to get together now because it feels like it's.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
A bit of a reunion.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
So did you have a fight?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
No, there was no fighting involved.

Speaker 11 (43:35):
I wish there was that kind of great story but no,
I just wanted to– bring my family home and have
my kids grow up in Australia.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Was that the big reason, like a big reason for you?
It was.

Speaker 11 (43:44):
So I wanted my kids to grow up knowing their grandparents,
their aunts and uncles and just to have that Aussie
lifestyle where– The weekends you go to the beach, you
chill out. It's just a little bit more laid back
here and I love that.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, well, compared to Vegas, anything is laid back.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
So do you do anything else now or do you
just like still do just human nature? Do you have
other jobs?

Speaker 11 (44:06):
No, I do other things. I appear on The Great
Outdoors on Channel 7. I'm one of the presenters for that.
I like to call myself Larry Emder's stuntman now and again.
When he's off doing other things, I'll do the morning show.
I also do my own solo shows. I've actually got
a bunch of fill-by-fill shows coming up in Sydney very soon,
which is me singing the songs of Phil Collins.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah. Phil Burton sings Phil Collins.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
So that's happening.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I like that. That's happening next.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Month in Sydney. But in the meantime.

Speaker 11 (44:38):
The other boys are going to be here in just
a couple of weeks and we're going to be in
the Roma Street Parkland.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
We can't wait.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
That's a great venue too. Have you been there?

Speaker 11 (44:46):
We're actually about to go there very soon to go
and have a little bit of a site inspection, but
saw a little bit of it.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Last night and it looks pretty nice. The Night at
the Parkland started last year, so this is the second one.

Speaker 11 (44:56):
And the acts are great. You've got Pinau, you've got
Missy Higgins, Temper Trap. It's going to be a really
great sort of festival for a few days there.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And when you guys meet up again, having spent so
much time working and living together, is it just putting
on an old shoe when you start hanging out with
the boys again?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
A little bit.

Speaker 11 (45:15):
It can be a little bit like the old shoe,
but there are other bits where it feels a little
bit fresher, which is great. In Vegas, we did live
in each other's pockets for 11 years. Very, very intense.
So now that little bit of space is actually a
good thing because when we get together, it's like, you know,
happy families.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Like the old times? Yeah, exactly. It's a bit of
a reunion.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Who's the most irritating?

Speaker 13 (45:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Can I bleed the fifth?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
No.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
I'll just say it was me.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
No, come on.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
It was the most irritating.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Everyone's always honest and they say me and stuff. No,
all right. No worries.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
It's Andrew.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
It's because he's very, very driven.

Speaker 11 (45:49):
And so it's a big sort of, you know, it's
that whole swings and roundabouts thing that in one way
he's really annoying because he's always on our case of
do this, do this, do this. But at the same time,
we wouldn't be where we are without him saying, do this,
do this, do this. So it pays off.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
The annoyance pays off.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Who's the funnest? Who's the party animal?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
The party animal.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That's when you say yourself.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Yeah, it's me. It's me. No, it probably used to
be Toby.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Toby.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Oh, back in the 90s, I think he was quite
the party animal.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Was he?

Speaker 13 (46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
He's probably calmed down a little bit now. He's had
kids and everything.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
But that's, you know, the party animal's probably still in
there somewhere.

Speaker 10 (46:24):
Just lingering.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, but see, when you do that again, you go, oh,
I'm done now. One night.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, that'll do him.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
What am I thinking?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, Corey gets tapped on the shoulder by his old
alter ego party animal every now and then goes, yeah,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, I wake up the next day and go, what
did I do?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
I know exactly the feeling. I know the feeling.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
When we actually did watch you guys last year, honestly,
it was the greatest thing ever. Like I grew up
listening to you and never got to.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
See you live.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I never thought I would ever get to see you live.
And then being given that chance last year, I was
singing everything. I was having the best time. I'm like, oh,
it's so late. No, just a little bit more. And
then I stayed the whole time. I stayed for the
whole show. Came tired as hell the next day, but
it was worth it. It was such a good show.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Thank you, mate. No, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 11 (47:11):
And coming from like an ex-footy player, I didn't sort
of realise we never really sort of among, you know,
a pop group, a boy band, we never sort of
really think that, Yeah. Like NRL players and stuff like
that might be fans, but they are.

Speaker 13 (47:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
It's really– it's an amazing feeling.

Speaker 15 (47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Was it in Boralaba where you, you know, putting fence
posts in when listening to Human Nature? When was your
great Human Nature moment?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
On the Discman. On the Discman at school?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
When I was in Boralaba, I didn't know Maccas existed,
so I don't know what existed when I lived there.
I think it's when we got closer.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
To– Like in boarding school in Yippoon?

Speaker 13 (47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Oh, no, I had the Discman, sorry, in Brelebar, and
I used to steal all my brother's music. And one
of them, well, not one of them, but a lot
of them were your CDs.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Say thanks to your brother for that.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I will.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Thanks, Phil.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Thanks, guys.
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