September 10, 2026 • 36 mins
One of us is heading to a high school reunion this weekend; is Kip wearing a toupee and we speak to a special guest who arguably had the most important job in the country on this day twenty-five years ago...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Rob and Kevin Corio. It's On Demand, the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ooh, I've got some interesting stats for you. Sandra Bullock
is appearing in Practical Magic 2. We've talked about that
heaps across this last week.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But do you know it's not movies where she's made
most of her money?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's not movies?
Speaker 5 (00:16):
Who?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (00:18):
Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 7 (00:19):
What?
Speaker 6 (00:20):
I will tell you what it is at halftime.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (00:23):
Robin Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (00:26):
Finals footy heating up this weekend, so there's obviously less games.
We had no Thursday night footy, but the footy's back tonight.
Speaker 10 (00:32):
The Hux was very sad.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (00:35):
He goes, football?
Speaker 9 (00:36):
No, mate. He goes, no. It's like a little early
start to the weekend when you have Thursday footy. But
the Lions are playing this weekend, taking on– they had
a terrible loss to the Swans last week, which was
a big shock for everyone because the Swans were down.
You know, they're five best players.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
The Crows. Yes, that's right, the Crows.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
Adelaide.
Speaker 9 (01:01):
And the Crows are going okay, although they weren't that convincing.
But the Lions coach, Chris Fagan, I thought was really interesting.
After that loss to the Swans, Fags came out and
said this to the boys.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I tried very hard this week to convince our players
it was going to be a tough game. We're going
to the SCG. It's Sydney's home ground. But somewhere back
in the deep recesses of their mind... I just wonder
whether they really thought it was going to be as
hard as what it was.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, they went out there. I'm sure that's true.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
Yeah, they went out like it was going to be easy,
but they certainly got a shock because what Brownie was suggesting,
we spoke to Jonathan Brown, former Lions great, now a
great commentator. He was there for the three-peat in the
early 2000s. And Brownie's thoughts on Brisbane against the Swans.
Speaker 11 (01:44):
Yeah, pretty poor.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:45):
Very poor.
Speaker 11 (01:46):
Their head wasn't in the gun.
Speaker 12 (01:47):
Right.
Speaker 11 (01:47):
I think that's the worst performance for the year, especially
in underneath Sydney, so. I'd expected them to bounce back,
buoyed by Zach Bailey's re-signing.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:55):
And they couldn't play as bad. Sydney had a lot
of players play the best game they'll ever play in
their careers.
Speaker 9 (02:00):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 11 (02:01):
And the Brisbane Lions had quite a lot of players
that played the worst game they'll ever play in their careers.
Speaker 10 (02:05):
It was hard to watch.
Speaker 11 (02:06):
You know, if you're not quite up for it and
the opposition comes ready to play, you know, you can
overcome a lot of talent.
Speaker 13 (02:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (02:13):
Deficiencies like the Swans.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Was it a prerequisite in the 2000s if you led
a Brisbane football team like Darren Lockyer did that you
also had your throat Why did those two sound the same?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I think there was a lot more elbowing to the neck.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Okay, is that what it is?
Speaker 10 (02:37):
In that era of the game.
Speaker 14 (02:38):
Did he always just have one of those really deep voices?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Browning was raspy from the day I met him.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Not like Lockyer.
Speaker 10 (02:46):
No, not like Lockyer.
Speaker 14 (02:49):
There's a lot of boys getting around these days with
a throat that's Sounds very.
Speaker 10 (02:53):
Similar to that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Have you ever heard early Lockyer before he got that
elbow to the throat?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
He just sounds like a normal young man.
Speaker 10 (03:00):
Oh, that's what you are.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He's unrecognisable.
Speaker 10 (03:02):
He still is normal.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Just with a bit of a tickle.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Did his voice box get impaired forever?
Speaker 10 (03:10):
I think they cracked it, didn't it?
Speaker 9 (03:11):
There's a bone touching on the thread or something like that.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
Where are doctors?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He can get it removed. Now, the thing is, doctors
have said to him, we can fix it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And Lockie's gone, well, it's gone in the sand now.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I've got to stick to it.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Rob and Kip and Corey out in the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The news this morning, we've got Alana in from the
newsroom to share this with us as well.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Hey, Alana.
Speaker 10 (03:32):
Can you stand normal, please?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Okay, well, I didn't have time to fix the mic.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
The mic's already on.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Well, okay.
Speaker 10 (03:38):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
There we go.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
And Robin and I, there's a good height difference.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yes, between Alana.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
How tall are you, Alana?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I'm just shy of six foot, so I was squatting.
Speaker 14 (03:48):
And our producer, Claire, was in here beforehand, and Claire
is seriously oompa-loompa high.
Speaker 12 (03:55):
Five foot.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
She's struggling to hit five foot. She's just shy of
five foot, actually.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Why is it in Australia that we still use feet
for height but nothing else?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
It's weird. Anyway, as you were.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
So there has been a theft, a heist in Brisbane,
and it's pretty big news. One of the new, sparkly
new Welcome to Brisbane signs has been stolen. Well, essentially,
it helps people know when they're entering or exiting Brisbane.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
So when you're driving from the switch?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
From you're driving from the switch.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
And all Moreton Bay, all Logan, it has been stolen
on the Ipswich border. And they didn't just kind of,
you know, it's not a small sign. It's been an
angle grinder was used. It's the size of a large cow,
according to the mayor.
Speaker 14 (04:43):
Now, I'd love to know the size of a large cow.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's like when there's hail and you're like, it's a
golf ball, it's a pebble.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, size of a large cow.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So someone would have gone to a lot of effort
to take this. Did it happen in the dead of night?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I mean, an angle grinder on a busy road, someone
has seen something.
Speaker 14 (05:07):
Now, this is the part where I go, Those signs
are pointless because I would love to know when that
sign was stolen to when someone actually.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Noticed it wasn't there. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 10 (05:19):
Who looks for a sign that goes, welcome?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
To Brisbane. To Brisbane.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Well, it's a new one.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So there's usually signs, but these are brand new ones.
They've got high-def pics of the Brisbane skyline.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And someone's seen it and thought, that's a treasure for me.
Speaker 14 (05:34):
Would you say there's usually signs to say something's been stolen?
Speaker 9 (05:38):
What are they going to do with it? There's my question.
Where are you going to put it? If you've got
the Welcome to Brisbane sign, you're at large right now.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You've got the sign.
Speaker 10 (05:46):
That is in my man cave.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
When everyone walks in.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It's just the thrill of the theft to some people.
Speaker 14 (05:52):
You cross it out and it goes, welcome to such
and such.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Man cave.
Speaker 9 (05:56):
Because I remember years ago, mates of mine, so this
was their first sort of share house.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Everyone was 17, 18, and.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
On their fence in the backyard, they stole the– the
McDonald's thank you sign that you get as you drive through.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The end of the drive-through.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No way.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
As you walked out of their gate, there was a
big thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Encourage it, but it was funny.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I was going to say, do you not know it's illegal?
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Like that is a criminal offence.
Speaker 11 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
That's a crazy town.
Speaker 9 (06:31):
Chris Potter was his name. But 131065, I'm sure there's
things that have, and we can use the count.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
You can be anonymous.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, we can use the count of silence if you
don't want to tell us.
Speaker 10 (06:48):
I've seen street signs.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
And it's because it's people's last names.
Speaker 11 (06:51):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That's a classic.
Speaker 14 (06:54):
That's always a popular one.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Up at Rocky, don't they steal the, because there's a
big bull in the middle of the roundabout.
Speaker 14 (06:59):
Yeah, they steal his crown and jewels.
Speaker 12 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
People go in with an angle grinder and steal the
nuts with regularity.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And who's, so what, do they get like an artist
or like a metal smith to go back in and
mould them back on?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That's his full-time job. This is the rumour. The rumour
is that someone has to go and weld fresh nuts
onto the bull.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Every week.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And there's like a shed full of nuts.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
Because it's every couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, you could have some fun, couldn't you? If
it was winter, they could be smaller.
Speaker 10 (07:30):
And the winter does. Hey, Derek, we need to settle
in just right.
Speaker 14 (07:33):
Just bolt them on on Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
Robin, Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Speaking of things you don't need, somebody's flogged the Welcome
to Brisbane sign right from the Ipswich motorway.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And there must have been people that saw it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's a huge sign.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Although.
Speaker 14 (07:52):
If you've got high vis on and someone's laying on
a shovel doing nothing and there's another bloke cutting, what
are you going.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
To look at and go?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No, but knowing Australia, people would see it, beep him
and put the thumbs.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Up going, put on your mate.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And that's kind of what we're doing right now.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
We're just saying we're not encouraging it, but if you
have stolen something that you want to brag about, 131065,
we've got an anonymous here to kick us off.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Hello, anonymous.
Speaker 13 (08:20):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 15 (08:21):
Great.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what have you taken? What happened?
Speaker 13 (08:25):
So my husband and I, we used to own a
little country pub. And being in a small town, you
compete around for other patrons to come to your pub
as opposed to the other pubs close by. So we
didn't really like the other owners of the other pub,
so we went and stole their signs.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
We didn't know.
Speaker 15 (08:46):
Where they were.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Like the actual pub sign?
Speaker 15 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Was that before people could Google it as well?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't know. It's not here. The sign's not there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
Oh, no.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
That's so funny.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
So we went and sold them.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
What did you do with it?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And where did you put it?
Speaker 16 (09:06):
We still have it.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
It's in our shed, in our garage.
Speaker 15 (09:14):
Oh, I do love that so much.
Speaker 14 (09:15):
Have you ever invited the old owners over?
Speaker 13 (09:17):
Oh, yeah, they come to our pub quite frequently when
they close down their pub.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, no. It worked.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
It worked.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That is brutal.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
John out of Beechmere. What have you got? What have
you stolen?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Morning, guys.
Speaker 12 (09:36):
In my younger, drunker days... We come home from a
night out with some souvenirs and I woke up one
morning and we found a street sign with my surname
on it. The entire allocation of newspapers for the local
shop for the next day. Two witch's hats and some
roadworks signs.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Witch's hats.
Speaker 13 (09:58):
Big night.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
I remember waking up one morning and my mate had
stolen the orange flashing lights from roadworks.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And they were going off and he couldn't work out
how to turn them off.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Oh, dear.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh, John.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Dan from Beachmere.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Hey, Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Good.
Speaker 13 (10:20):
What have you taken?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I was living in Lely about six, seven years ago.
And there's like a five-glass statue of a horse in
the main street. And so I woke up one morning,
went down the main street and the horse was missing.
And I went over to my mate's. in the armo
and what was in his backyard.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
The horse.
Speaker 14 (10:43):
Then they got drunk and sawed the feet and took
it home.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
They sawed the feet off?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
It was on the bottom, so they took it home
and then, yeah, they took it back a few days later.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Just put it back on?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I'm glad they brought it back eventually.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
I'm just realising.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
It was laying down. The council had to fix it.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, it still would have been a tonne of work.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
The last two callers are both from Beechman.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:07):
Is there something going on in the beach here?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
I wonder how many signs.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
What's that, Dan?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Good fishing, Corey.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Good fishing.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, good fishing. Plenty of time to fish.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And make a couple of things.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Robin Kipp and Corey Oates. In the morning.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Halfway through the podcast, I think I heard something about
this on the Sandra Bullock podcast when she did Smartless.
So I think I know the answer. So I'll sit
out of this game.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so when Sandra Bullock first broke onto the scene,
she thought she wasn't going to make any money and
she wasn't going to last past the age of 35
because she's now 62. So she was cracking it in
sort of the late 80s, early 90s and then had
a couple of her really big films in the later 90s, 2000s.
But she was saying, look, I think, you know, I've
(11:56):
kind of got a pretty face.
Speaker 15 (11:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So I'll just, whatever money I make, I will then
invest in So that I can survive past movies and
she invested.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
In- Face cream.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Property.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Not face cream.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, real estate.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Real estate.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
She turned her first- Yeah, go on.
Speaker 14 (12:17):
Well, they make millions and millions and you could say
almost close to billions with all this stuff they get
in movies and endorsements and everything else they would get.
So this is what annoys me about those rich people.
Why don't they all invest like this?
Speaker 15 (12:32):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, interestingly enough, in the late 80s, mortgage rates, interest
rates rather, were just ridiculously high. And so she scraped
and saved and bought her first property for $ 575, 000.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then since then, she has amassed a real estate empire.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Can I guess?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Can I guess? Yeah, go on, because Kip knows the
answer because he's listened to the podcast.
Speaker 14 (12:55):
I'm going to go, look, I'm going to say something
ridiculous and say $ 100 million worth.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Well, $ 50 million.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Far out. That is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Between how many properties though?
Speaker 10 (13:06):
This is an interesting fact.
Speaker 14 (13:07):
Do you know how many?
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Yes, so smart.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Does it say how many?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Well, what's also interesting, she flipped them. So she would
buy them and renovate them and then flip them.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So she didn't ever hold on to too many properties. Um,
and then the other ones is she leases them out
and she got into, uh, like commercial real estate.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (13:29):
She's a landlord. It's so fun. That's great.
Speaker 12 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 14 (13:33):
I learned a lesson when I was 19 or 20, um,
just after I bought my first house and I met
a guy who owns 60 properties.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Um, and he's a lot of money.
Speaker 14 (13:43):
He owns most of the property North of Brisbane, but
He said, I would say invest money, but everyone gets
it wrong when they think, okay, I've got to buy
the most expensive properties.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
He said, no, no.
Speaker 14 (13:55):
He said, I have 60 properties, but the average of
these are $ 550, 000. He said, every property except for maybe
one or two is worth 500 grand.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (14:05):
And he said, because- The risk.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Is a lot lower. Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Have lots of, many cheap ones.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And it was really interesting.
Speaker 14 (14:13):
That's what made me learn more about the real estate
world and whatever. And like, it's great to see someone
like that. You know, she has, obviously has a multiple of,
she probably has 30 or 40, like, but is very
smart with how she does it.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And obviously has gone on to do great things in film.
I mean, yeah, to be fair, she has earned a lot.
Speaker 14 (14:35):
She has a lot of money, but it still shows
there's a way to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, it's smart that she had a backup.
Speaker 14 (14:40):
But that's exactly right.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
You don't see it with a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
But you've got to be speculative with real estate. It's
not easy.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Go to the dodgy places and think, is there something
great about this that no one's realised? Like my mum
bought our family home and it was only because they
couldn't afford it in Sydney on the Parramatta River. in Abbotsford,
which is the inner west, in 1967, and no one
wanted to live on the river.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Because it stunk.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And it was right next to the quarantine station where
animals would come and then there was a crematorium there
so that if the animal died from a disease– So
it was just.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Like, do you know how much she sold it for? Well,
you do know because I've told you. But a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So bought for $ 13, 000, fully furnished in 67 and sold
for $ 6 million.
Speaker 13 (15:26):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It's insane.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Right now though, speaking of kids, my little fellow Raffi
was in here yesterday. His mum dropped him off on
her way to work because he was sick and he
wasn't too bad though.
Speaker 14 (15:43):
So he is you.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
He's a mini you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And so, well, he had a microphone thrust upon him and.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Drew, our boss, asked Raffy for a little bit of feedback.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
About the show and specifically you, I think, you went, Corey.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So, Raffy, what does Corey need to stop doing on
the radio?
Speaker 12 (16:00):
He needs to stop talking over Kip because then he
loses more stars and it's also very, very annoying to
my dad.
Speaker 11 (16:10):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 14 (16:14):
That is 100% something you've said.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
First of all, he called me Kip.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Obviously, he's seen the star chart here and he's asked
why you had less stars than me and he's put
it together that it's.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The talking over.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Now, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's so funny.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
If everyone in the world thinks it's because they're talking
over Kip, now I'm going to take that instead of
the real reasons.
Speaker 13 (16:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Because I don't want the real reasons to come out.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Why you don't have staff. What are the real reasons?
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Oh, yeah. Okay, so here's the thing, because my mum's
the same. Whenever she tunes in, it's just like, that
Corey's got to stop talking over everyone. And I'm just like,
but mum, it's the way his brain works.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
He just has something in his head and he has
to get it out.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Is that fair?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
And I find it so fascinating that that's a thing
that Raphael would bring up because he talks over everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
At all times.
Speaker 12 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
If you're on the phone, dad, blah, blah, blah, it
just comes in.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Whatever thought he's having has to be expressed at that instant.
Speaker 14 (17:15):
I reckon in school for about nine years, that was
my report card.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Talks over everybody.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
Doesn't stop. Doesn't realise when it's not his turn.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Still don't. I haven't listened.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you know, that makes sense, Kip, because as a
seven-year-old in his mind, someone else is getting into trouble
for the one thing that he gets into trouble for.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So it is the greatest part of deflection ever.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
It is.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
It's okay.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
If someone else is in trouble, let's pile on.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
It's okay for those kids out there. Look, everyone goes
through it, okay?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Struggles in life.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What?
Speaker 14 (17:49):
Just not realising when it's not your turn.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Robin, Kit and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Love live radio. You never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
We just had Sandra Sully in studio because Robin's broadcasting
out of our Sydney studios today.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We've got you on Skype or Zoom, whatever this is.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Whatever this thing is.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
And we just had Sandra Sully sitting in with you
while we did A Cash or Crash.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
She was singing along to Kenny.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Didn't know we could all see her. And now one
of her producers has gone, you've got another interview. You've
got to leave.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
So she's coming back in a second, but we are
going to talk to Sandra about today in particular being
September 11th. And 25 years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It's incredible, hey, 25 years.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
She was the person that broke the news to Australia.
She was doing late night news on Channel 10. And,
you know, I mean, back in the day, 25 years ago,
television was almost 24-7.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
But she was the one that was in a bulletin.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And we'll get more details from her as to exactly
what unfolded. But she was doing live news. And then
a story was breaking in the States. And here's how
it started to unfold.
Speaker 16 (18:57):
But a major breaking story in the United States. New York,
as we speak, you can see the pictures there coming
in now live from CNN. The news, the details, a
plane has just crashed into the World Trade Centre. We
will bring you the details as soon as we get them.
Welcome back to Thames Lake News and to that breaking story.
More details are coming through from the wire services and CNN.
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We can now confirm a second plane has crashed into
the second tower of the World Trade Centre. As you
can see, the pictures there, these details are literally, you know,
the events are unfolding as we speak.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
She just did such a fantastic job. Late Night News,
you know, and she was very young at that time
as well.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
And Late Night News was really just a replay of
what news had happened through the day. They were very
rarely were they breaking news and then something happening like that,
as big as that, while you're live on air.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
It would have been. been hard.
Speaker 14 (19:50):
And that's why I'd love to answer the question, just
like the emotion that she was probably holding back.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, you can hear it in her voice. She will
come back in and we will do this.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I have a feeling because I went to the 9-11
Museum in New York City.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I have a feeling they have.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
A little piece of her because they do a whole
thing of it breaking around the world.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And her, you know, news story is now in our
National Archive.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Because it was part of history that was unfolding and
that's how Australia discovered it. I mean, we've talked a
little bit about when we found out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It is one of those moments.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like when Steve Irwin died. I remember exactly what
I was doing and I was breastfeeding my nine-month-old son, Finn.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
And Tony came rushing in going, I thought this was
a joke.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And then he turned on the TV in the bedroom
and then we literally stayed up all night.
Speaker 15 (20:40):
Corey, how old were you?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You were teeny tiny.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Seven.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Seven.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
So when did you find out?
Speaker 14 (20:47):
Oh, look, I think I remember something happened during school
the next day. That was about it.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (20:57):
I don't remember a lot, obviously, because I was only seven. Um,
but yeah, I think I remember finding out while I
was in one of the classes. Um, and that was
obviously the next day, but, um, yeah. And for us kids,
I don't know if we would have known much or
thought anything about it.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (21:13):
But I remember the school.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Had a, had a, there was a bit going on
at the time.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
So, um.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And there's a crazy story, like, for example, about Ian Thorpe,
who was in New York City at the time, and
he was going to go up to the top of
the World Trade Center to take some photos because they
were the best photos of New York City and forgotten
his camera. And so he was going early in the
morning and then went back to the hotel. And while
he was in the hotel, he could hear the commotion
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turned on the television and realized.
Speaker 15 (21:42):
that it had saved his life.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It saved his life, forgetting that camera.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
I wonder if he's woo-woo at all about that because that's,
I mean, you could certainly look at that as a miracle,
couldn't you?
Speaker 16 (21:50):
Yeah, really.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Something is telling you this is not your time.
Speaker 14 (21:54):
But I also seen just a quick video about a
guy changed his ticket really late the day before, the
night before to the next flight for no reason. He
just thought, oh, I'm not going to make that flight.
I'll I'll just change it. And then he rocked up
at the same time because he could have made the
first flight.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Yep.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
And then just to make sure his ticket would work
because he was worried about it not working. And he
goes to the counter, does this work? And they go,
have you not heard what's happened?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
And then they told him.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
What had happened on the plane he was meant.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
To be on.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And we should say that today or rather overnight, a
drone display has recreated the Twin Towers in New York City.
2,977 drones lit up the sky in the place where
the World Trade Center towers once stood before the attacks almost, yeah,
25 years ago. Each drone had a light representing each
of the people lost in the attacks. And what they
(22:48):
did was you saw the drones swirling, excuse me, and
then they turned them off. And they created the building.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Incredible how they did it.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Yeah. That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It looks really cool. That'll be floating around today.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Sandra is doing her thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
We will get her back in. Yep, we'll check.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And we will chat about what she was feeling when
it happened.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Rob and Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Sandra Sully is literally running back into the studio.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Oh, okay, great.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
This is live radio, as you know it, because she
is the face of this 9-11 anniversary, I guess. It's
25 years ago today because, Sandra, you broke the news
to Australia.
Speaker 15 (23:27):
Yeah, I know, and I can't.
Speaker 16 (23:32):
You know, always find the words because the night itself
was so emotional and so enormous. There was no, you know, rehearsal.
I mean, news by its very nature is unprecedented. There's
no warning when news breaks, but something of that scale
and magnitude.
Speaker 15 (23:48):
I could never have possibly ever predicted.
Speaker 16 (23:50):
And still find it hard at times to sort of
recognise that I got through it the way I did.
Speaker 15 (23:57):
How did you, mate?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (24:01):
I think....
Speaker 16 (24:03):
I just refused to allow emotion. I couldn't open that
door because I would not have been able to come back.
And I remember a virtual seatbelt coming across my body
and clamping me into the chair, knowing that this was
going to be an enormous, significant ride. And I wanted
to try and survive it professionally. Not that I was
(24:26):
worried about me, but I had to do the story
justice because everybody that was listening, I needed to try
to wake them up mentally, you know, tell your friends,
wake up friends and family. This was an event so significant.
I knew the financial hub of the Western world was
under attack. The East Coast of the United States, you know,
(24:47):
air services, all airlines have been grounded. And while we
knew two planes had gone in, another two were on
their way. The Pentagon was next and then Pennsylvania. Our
own prime minister was in Washington. And then we had
a hijacked plane go down in Pennsylvania. And we didn't
know where it.
Speaker 15 (25:05):
Was going to stop.
Speaker 16 (25:05):
And we also, it seems randomly silly in hindsight, but
hindsight's a 2020 thing, isn't it? At the time, no
one really expected those buildings to actually collapse.
Speaker 15 (25:16):
And then when they did, it was a concertina collapse.
Speaker 16 (25:19):
Pancake shuddering of horrendous proportions that you just were sort
of staggered and trying you know i just remember grappling
to find the words to adequately describe what i was
watching how much.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Help did you get from your team like was there
someone in your ear do you remember the moment like
was it something coming into your ear like a producer
or director saying hey sandra um you know, there's news
coming or did they even just tell you what it
is and you had to try and freestyle?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Like what happened?
Speaker 15 (25:50):
There was no team. I was there on my own.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
No.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
You did that by yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (25:58):
There was no one.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So hang on. So what happens?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
How do you find out? What happens then as a journo?
Speaker 16 (26:04):
Oh, well, look, we had an EP, but the team
had gone home. Sports Tonight were waiting to come on
after us. So there was just myself and Michael Reid,
the EP, our line-up producer.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (26:14):
And he was in the control room and I think
the first break had gone to where we were in
a commercial break and Darren Keller, who I still work
with to this day, had spotted the vision going in
because in those days there was really only CNN.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Right.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
You know, there were no smartphones, no social media, no Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.
Speaker 11 (26:33):
No.
Speaker 16 (26:33):
No live streams, videos. You know, with Bondi, everybody was
on their phone. They weren't in front of a television.
That didn't exist. The internet was only 10 years old.
So in the commercial break, I said, okay, light plane,
World Trade Center, wow.
Speaker 15 (26:46):
Have you got the pictures? Let's have a look.
Speaker 16 (26:48):
And I said to the producer, that's not a light plane.
That looks like a jetliner. Let's turn the pictures around
and come out of the break and go to air
with it. So we turned that around from seven minutes
of it occurring. We came out of the commercial break
from memory and ran those pictures live. And this is
so random as life would have it. I was an
(27:09):
exchange student in the States however many years before and
a good friend of mine grew up in New York
City and her father worked at the World Trade Center.
And he was rescued from a terrorism attack in 1993
and I remembered that. And I said to, I yelled
out to Tim Webster and the Sports Tonight team, get
me everything on 1993, the terrorism attack on World Trade Center.
Speaker 15 (27:29):
I need details. Because wires had frozen. Oh, of course.
Speaker 16 (27:34):
Right on the east coast of America where the majority
of all the major American news networks were based.
Speaker 15 (27:41):
They were in shock and speechless.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (27:44):
So they didn't know what to say. So I said,
give me CNN in my ear so that I could write.
I only had a pen and paper. There were no
wire copy.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So were you getting something in one ear while you're
talking in another or you're doing this during commercial breaks
or whilst, because it's, It turned from you just doing
a bulletin into a complete live broadcast that went for hours.
Speaker 16 (28:04):
So I had CNN in my ear and I just
kept writing notes. And then after, so when the producer
ran out of the control room once the second plane
went in and I looked at Michael as if to say, WTF,
don't leave me.
Speaker 15 (28:19):
Yeah. Don't leave me. And he said, just keep talking.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
And you.
Speaker 16 (28:24):
And what happened was he ran over, you know, to
the control, you know, the Chief of Staff's area because
we had a LA correspondent, Michelle Stone. She was in
New York for the US Open. Leighton Hewlin had just
won the US Open.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
That's right.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Right?
Speaker 16 (28:42):
And then we had Deb Knight on the ground in
Washington because Howard was there. Our Prime Minister was in Washington.
So he got Michelle and Deb Knight on the line.
Those two did an outstanding job. Michelle was on the
streets of New York with our cameraman Paul Atkinson at
the time, and Deb Knight was on the ground in
the Pentagon in Washington, and that plane had gone in.
Speaker 15 (29:04):
Far out.
Speaker 16 (29:04):
So Michael connected Deb and Michelle and I, and that's
all we had. And in between breaks, I would be
taking copious notes from CNN, and then over the ensuing hours,
we'd run a slab of CNN while we gathered more
information and kept crossing back It was just the three
of us. And Michael, and Michael then went, after he'd
connected us, he then called the rest of the newsroom
(29:27):
executives and said, get up, get in here.
Speaker 15 (29:30):
You know, this is, off we go, off we go.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
So how do you feel.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
About that now? I mean, you're clearly still emotional. I'm
sitting directly across from you and there's, you know, there's
tears not too far away.
Speaker 15 (29:43):
What does that evoke for you?
Speaker 16 (29:45):
It's always like a visceral numbness, if that makes sense.
I feel like I did that night.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
I couldn't allow myself to get emotional.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
I do after.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
It was four or five days before I. cried. And
it doesn't matter about me. I mean, 3,000 people lost
their lives that night.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You were the one that brought the story and you
did it with such compassion while you're watching people die
in front of you, knowing that you're going to take
that to our country. That is a massive responsibility to
be able to hold yourself.
Speaker 16 (30:18):
I had the privilege of being in the chair that night.
I always feel it's a privilege to do what I do.
I just wanted to do the story justice and not
let myself or anyone else down. I needed to I
always feel like when people woke the next morning, they
knew what had happened and it may have taken them
time to process the information, the scale of events and
(30:38):
what actually happened. They needed to see the pictures and
understand it. But we lived the horror and the trauma
and to this day people will still come and grab
me by the hands, complete strangers, and they'll say.
Speaker 15 (30:51):
These few words, I was with you.
Speaker 16 (30:54):
And they don't need to finish the sentence because we
know Because we lived the trauma of those hours watching
what we thought was the beginning of World War III,
you know, and watching people die.
Speaker 15 (31:09):
And you never saw those bitches again after five o'clock.
Speaker 16 (31:11):
And I'm just relieved that people think I did the
story justice in the events of that magnitude, you know.
Speaker 15 (31:18):
You absolutely did.
Speaker 16 (31:19):
Because I just felt so responsible and overwhelmed, really, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, you did not only yourself but the whole of
the country proud, mate.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
And as soon as we turn this microphone off, I'm
going to give you.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
A really good hug. Thanks, Adam.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 15 (31:35):
Thanks for having me, team.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Robin Kipp and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
So, Robin, you've been in Sydney today for the show.
So you were able to chat face-to-face with Sandra Sully
while we were down there.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Why are you there, Rob?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Yeah. Oh, hang on.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Sorry.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
Hang on.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Wait, I'll start again because Kip didn't do his job.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I didn't turn the thingy on. It's a separate one.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Sorry.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Go again.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I'm here for two reasons. One is I come down
once a month.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
My mum lives in Sydney and I just need to
support my sister as she's getting older. But the other
main reason, and I'm really torn up about it, it's
my high school reunion tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
High school.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And I just don't like, I get, I go between, oh,
this will be so fun, you know, catching up with
everyone to, oh my God, I don't want to be
seen dead in that room.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
Am I allowed to say which one it would be
or no?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Well, no.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I'll leave that out of the context.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Let's people be nice and believe it's possibly less than
what it is.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
It is.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Let's go through the positives and the negatives. Have you
got people that you would like to see there?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I'm still really good friends with one girl from school, Sam,
who actually met her current partner at my wedding to Sean,
and he was a friend of Sean's.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So we sat them on the same table because we
thought they'd be a great hookup and they're still together.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And you were right.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
So there you go.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
So I was right.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
So out of how many?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So you've got Sam.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
How many kids used to go to this school?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So I went to a Rudolf Steiner school in year
11 and 12, so we had a very small class
of 35.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It was a school where you didn't wear a uniform.
You called your teachers by their first name. Like it
was one of those alternative.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Sort of schools.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
What a school. And so I don't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
I don't want to do that. Yeah. I'm going.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
And it was that thing. I shouldn't tell you this,
but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
But because it was such a small school and we
were quite adventurous young people. You know, you slept with
half of them by the end of year 12.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
All right.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Crossing that off the list for the kids.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
We were 18. I was 18 in year 12.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Mum, what was school like back in your day?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Oh, well. It was a shag fest, kids. It wasn't
like now.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Queensland was so different.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I went to school in New South Wales, obviously.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So I did.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I was 18. I turned 18 in year 12. So
we were older.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Is that the other reason you don't want to go?
Speaker 10 (33:59):
It's all the.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Old people you slept with.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
That's a nightmare.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
It is.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Hey, Rob, remember that time?
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Yeah, so you go to see Sam, but you also
have to see Billy, James, Shane.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Well, the guy I first fell in love with.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You know, my first true love, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Was your teacher.
Speaker 15 (34:26):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Why do I tell you these things?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do you reckon he'll be there, the bloke you first
fell in love with?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I know he's going to be there because we
had to have an accept or decline.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
And it's not that I've got feelings for him or
anything like that. It's just weird.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
How's he going though?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like have you dodged a bullet?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 15 (34:46):
This is the other thing.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Has he sold a billion dollar company? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's stuff I don't care about. Like I think life
goes on, but it's just weird.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
The last time we had a reunion, which was 10
years ago, And I was just newly dating Sean, and
it was again in Sydney.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
We went to the Oaks, which is quite an iconic
pub in Neutral Bay.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And I rang Sean, and I'm like, get me out
of here.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
And so I bolted.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I just remember how old everyone looked. I've been to one.
I'm like, man, everyone's so old.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
And they were probably thinking the same thing about me,
but I was just like.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
If you shaved your beard, you wouldn't look so old.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
I know.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Well, I didn't have a grey beard at that stage.
And my last reunion, I hadn't had kids yet. And
all my friends, like all the people at school had
had kids. So that all aged terribly.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And now I've caught up. You've greyed in the.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Last six months.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And I feel like it's a personality competition.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Like everyone's, I don't know. It just feels like, I
don't know, maybe I'm. I live in Queensland. I'm not here.
I don't get invited.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
I think people have just had enough. They're like, he
left school and we don't want to see him ever again.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, he used his quota of words decades ago.
It's Rob and Kevin Corio. It's On Demand, the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ooh, I've got some interesting stats for you. Sandra Bullock
is appearing in Practical Magic 2. We've talked about that
heaps across this last week.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But do you know it's not movies where she's made
most of her money?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's not movies?
Speaker 5 (00:16):
Who?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (00:18):
Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 7 (00:19):
What?
Speaker 6 (00:20):
I will tell you what it is at halftime.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (00:23):
Robin Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (00:26):
Finals footy heating up this weekend, so there's obviously less games.
We had no Thursday night footy, but the footy's back tonight.
Speaker 10 (00:32):
The Hux was very sad.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (00:35):
He goes, football?
Speaker 9 (00:36):
No, mate. He goes, no. It's like a little early
start to the weekend when you have Thursday footy. But
the Lions are playing this weekend, taking on– they had
a terrible loss to the Swans last week, which was
a big shock for everyone because the Swans were down.
You know, they're five best players.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
The Crows. Yes, that's right, the Crows.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
Adelaide.
Speaker 9 (01:01):
And the Crows are going okay, although they weren't that convincing.
But the Lions coach, Chris Fagan, I thought was really interesting.
After that loss to the Swans, Fags came out and
said this to the boys.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I tried very hard this week to convince our players
it was going to be a tough game. We're going
to the SCG. It's Sydney's home ground. But somewhere back
in the deep recesses of their mind... I just wonder
whether they really thought it was going to be as
hard as what it was.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, they went out there. I'm sure that's true.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
Yeah, they went out like it was going to be easy,
but they certainly got a shock because what Brownie was suggesting,
we spoke to Jonathan Brown, former Lions great, now a
great commentator. He was there for the three-peat in the
early 2000s. And Brownie's thoughts on Brisbane against the Swans.
Speaker 11 (01:44):
Yeah, pretty poor.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:45):
Very poor.
Speaker 11 (01:46):
Their head wasn't in the gun.
Speaker 12 (01:47):
Right.
Speaker 11 (01:47):
I think that's the worst performance for the year, especially
in underneath Sydney, so. I'd expected them to bounce back,
buoyed by Zach Bailey's re-signing.
Speaker 8 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:55):
And they couldn't play as bad. Sydney had a lot
of players play the best game they'll ever play in
their careers.
Speaker 9 (02:00):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 11 (02:01):
And the Brisbane Lions had quite a lot of players
that played the worst game they'll ever play in their careers.
Speaker 10 (02:05):
It was hard to watch.
Speaker 11 (02:06):
You know, if you're not quite up for it and
the opposition comes ready to play, you know, you can
overcome a lot of talent.
Speaker 13 (02:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (02:13):
Deficiencies like the Swans.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Was it a prerequisite in the 2000s if you led
a Brisbane football team like Darren Lockyer did that you
also had your throat Why did those two sound the same?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I think there was a lot more elbowing to the neck.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Okay, is that what it is?
Speaker 10 (02:37):
In that era of the game.
Speaker 14 (02:38):
Did he always just have one of those really deep voices?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Browning was raspy from the day I met him.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Not like Lockyer.
Speaker 10 (02:46):
No, not like Lockyer.
Speaker 14 (02:49):
There's a lot of boys getting around these days with
a throat that's Sounds very.
Speaker 10 (02:53):
Similar to that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Have you ever heard early Lockyer before he got that
elbow to the throat?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
He just sounds like a normal young man.
Speaker 10 (03:00):
Oh, that's what you are.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
He's unrecognisable.
Speaker 10 (03:02):
He still is normal.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Just with a bit of a tickle.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Did his voice box get impaired forever?
Speaker 10 (03:10):
I think they cracked it, didn't it?
Speaker 9 (03:11):
There's a bone touching on the thread or something like that.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
Where are doctors?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He can get it removed. Now, the thing is, doctors
have said to him, we can fix it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And Lockie's gone, well, it's gone in the sand now.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I've got to stick to it.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Rob and Kip and Corey out in the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The news this morning, we've got Alana in from the
newsroom to share this with us as well.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Hey, Alana.
Speaker 10 (03:32):
Can you stand normal, please?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Okay, well, I didn't have time to fix the mic.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
The mic's already on.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Well, okay.
Speaker 10 (03:38):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
There we go.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
And Robin and I, there's a good height difference.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yes, between Alana.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
How tall are you, Alana?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I'm just shy of six foot, so I was squatting.
Speaker 14 (03:48):
And our producer, Claire, was in here beforehand, and Claire
is seriously oompa-loompa high.
Speaker 12 (03:55):
Five foot.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
She's struggling to hit five foot. She's just shy of
five foot, actually.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Why is it in Australia that we still use feet
for height but nothing else?
Speaker 6 (04:04):
It's weird. Anyway, as you were.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
So there has been a theft, a heist in Brisbane,
and it's pretty big news. One of the new, sparkly
new Welcome to Brisbane signs has been stolen. Well, essentially,
it helps people know when they're entering or exiting Brisbane.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
So when you're driving from the switch?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
From you're driving from the switch.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
And all Moreton Bay, all Logan, it has been stolen
on the Ipswich border. And they didn't just kind of,
you know, it's not a small sign. It's been an
angle grinder was used. It's the size of a large cow,
according to the mayor.
Speaker 14 (04:43):
Now, I'd love to know the size of a large cow.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's like when there's hail and you're like, it's a
golf ball, it's a pebble.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, size of a large cow.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So someone would have gone to a lot of effort
to take this. Did it happen in the dead of night?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I mean, an angle grinder on a busy road, someone
has seen something.
Speaker 14 (05:07):
Now, this is the part where I go, Those signs
are pointless because I would love to know when that
sign was stolen to when someone actually.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Noticed it wasn't there. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 10 (05:19):
Who looks for a sign that goes, welcome?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
To Brisbane. To Brisbane.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Well, it's a new one.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So there's usually signs, but these are brand new ones.
They've got high-def pics of the Brisbane skyline.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And someone's seen it and thought, that's a treasure for me.
Speaker 14 (05:34):
Would you say there's usually signs to say something's been stolen?
Speaker 9 (05:38):
What are they going to do with it? There's my question.
Where are you going to put it? If you've got
the Welcome to Brisbane sign, you're at large right now.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You've got the sign.
Speaker 10 (05:46):
That is in my man cave.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
When everyone walks in.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It's just the thrill of the theft to some people.
Speaker 14 (05:52):
You cross it out and it goes, welcome to such
and such.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Man cave.
Speaker 9 (05:56):
Because I remember years ago, mates of mine, so this
was their first sort of share house.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Everyone was 17, 18, and.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
On their fence in the backyard, they stole the– the
McDonald's thank you sign that you get as you drive through.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The end of the drive-through.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No way.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
As you walked out of their gate, there was a
big thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Encourage it, but it was funny.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I was going to say, do you not know it's illegal?
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Like that is a criminal offence.
Speaker 11 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
That's a crazy town.
Speaker 9 (06:31):
Chris Potter was his name. But 131065, I'm sure there's
things that have, and we can use the count.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
You can be anonymous.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, we can use the count of silence if you
don't want to tell us.
Speaker 10 (06:48):
I've seen street signs.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:50):
And it's because it's people's last names.
Speaker 11 (06:51):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That's a classic.
Speaker 14 (06:54):
That's always a popular one.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
Up at Rocky, don't they steal the, because there's a
big bull in the middle of the roundabout.
Speaker 14 (06:59):
Yeah, they steal his crown and jewels.
Speaker 12 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
People go in with an angle grinder and steal the
nuts with regularity.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And who's, so what, do they get like an artist
or like a metal smith to go back in and
mould them back on?
Speaker 8 (07:13):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That's his full-time job. This is the rumour. The rumour
is that someone has to go and weld fresh nuts
onto the bull.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Every week.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And there's like a shed full of nuts.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
Because it's every couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, you could have some fun, couldn't you? If
it was winter, they could be smaller.
Speaker 10 (07:30):
And the winter does. Hey, Derek, we need to settle
in just right.
Speaker 14 (07:33):
Just bolt them on on Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
Robin, Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Speaking of things you don't need, somebody's flogged the Welcome
to Brisbane sign right from the Ipswich motorway.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And there must have been people that saw it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's a huge sign.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Although.
Speaker 14 (07:52):
If you've got high vis on and someone's laying on
a shovel doing nothing and there's another bloke cutting, what
are you going.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
To look at and go?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No, but knowing Australia, people would see it, beep him
and put the thumbs.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Up going, put on your mate.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And that's kind of what we're doing right now.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
We're just saying we're not encouraging it, but if you
have stolen something that you want to brag about, 131065,
we've got an anonymous here to kick us off.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Hello, anonymous.
Speaker 13 (08:20):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 15 (08:21):
Great.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what have you taken? What happened?
Speaker 13 (08:25):
So my husband and I, we used to own a
little country pub. And being in a small town, you
compete around for other patrons to come to your pub
as opposed to the other pubs close by. So we
didn't really like the other owners of the other pub,
so we went and stole their signs.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
We didn't know.
Speaker 15 (08:46):
Where they were.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Like the actual pub sign?
Speaker 15 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Was that before people could Google it as well?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't know. It's not here. The sign's not there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
Oh, no.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
That's so funny.
Speaker 13 (09:02):
So we went and sold them.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
What did you do with it?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And where did you put it?
Speaker 16 (09:06):
We still have it.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
It's in our shed, in our garage.
Speaker 15 (09:14):
Oh, I do love that so much.
Speaker 14 (09:15):
Have you ever invited the old owners over?
Speaker 13 (09:17):
Oh, yeah, they come to our pub quite frequently when
they close down their pub.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, no. It worked.
Speaker 10 (09:26):
It worked.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That is brutal.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
John out of Beechmere. What have you got? What have
you stolen?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
Morning, guys.
Speaker 12 (09:36):
In my younger, drunker days... We come home from a
night out with some souvenirs and I woke up one
morning and we found a street sign with my surname
on it. The entire allocation of newspapers for the local
shop for the next day. Two witch's hats and some
roadworks signs.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Witch's hats.
Speaker 13 (09:58):
Big night.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
I remember waking up one morning and my mate had
stolen the orange flashing lights from roadworks.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And they were going off and he couldn't work out
how to turn them off.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Oh, dear.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh, John.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Dan from Beachmere.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Hey, Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Good.
Speaker 13 (10:20):
What have you taken?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I was living in Lely about six, seven years ago.
And there's like a five-glass statue of a horse in
the main street. And so I woke up one morning,
went down the main street and the horse was missing.
And I went over to my mate's. in the armo
and what was in his backyard.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
The horse.
Speaker 14 (10:43):
Then they got drunk and sawed the feet and took
it home.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
They sawed the feet off?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
It was on the bottom, so they took it home
and then, yeah, they took it back a few days later.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Just put it back on?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I'm glad they brought it back eventually.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
I'm just realising.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
It was laying down. The council had to fix it.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, it still would have been a tonne of work.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
The last two callers are both from Beechman.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:07):
Is there something going on in the beach here?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
I wonder how many signs.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
What's that, Dan?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Good fishing, Corey.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Good fishing.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, good fishing. Plenty of time to fish.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And make a couple of things.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Robin Kipp and Corey Oates. In the morning.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
Halfway through the podcast, I think I heard something about
this on the Sandra Bullock podcast when she did Smartless.
So I think I know the answer. So I'll sit
out of this game.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so when Sandra Bullock first broke onto the scene,
she thought she wasn't going to make any money and
she wasn't going to last past the age of 35
because she's now 62. So she was cracking it in
sort of the late 80s, early 90s and then had
a couple of her really big films in the later 90s, 2000s.
But she was saying, look, I think, you know, I've
(11:56):
kind of got a pretty face.
Speaker 15 (11:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So I'll just, whatever money I make, I will then
invest in So that I can survive past movies and
she invested.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
In- Face cream.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Property.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Not face cream.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, real estate.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Real estate.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
She turned her first- Yeah, go on.
Speaker 14 (12:17):
Well, they make millions and millions and you could say
almost close to billions with all this stuff they get
in movies and endorsements and everything else they would get.
So this is what annoys me about those rich people.
Why don't they all invest like this?
Speaker 15 (12:32):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, interestingly enough, in the late 80s, mortgage rates, interest
rates rather, were just ridiculously high. And so she scraped
and saved and bought her first property for $ 575, 000.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then since then, she has amassed a real estate empire.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Can I guess?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Can I guess? Yeah, go on, because Kip knows the
answer because he's listened to the podcast.
Speaker 14 (12:55):
I'm going to go, look, I'm going to say something
ridiculous and say $ 100 million worth.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Well, $ 50 million.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Far out. That is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Between how many properties though?
Speaker 10 (13:06):
This is an interesting fact.
Speaker 14 (13:07):
Do you know how many?
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Yes, so smart.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Does it say how many?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Well, what's also interesting, she flipped them. So she would
buy them and renovate them and then flip them.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So she didn't ever hold on to too many properties. Um,
and then the other ones is she leases them out
and she got into, uh, like commercial real estate.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (13:29):
She's a landlord. It's so fun. That's great.
Speaker 12 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 14 (13:33):
I learned a lesson when I was 19 or 20, um,
just after I bought my first house and I met
a guy who owns 60 properties.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Um, and he's a lot of money.
Speaker 14 (13:43):
He owns most of the property North of Brisbane, but
He said, I would say invest money, but everyone gets
it wrong when they think, okay, I've got to buy
the most expensive properties.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
He said, no, no.
Speaker 14 (13:55):
He said, I have 60 properties, but the average of
these are $ 550, 000. He said, every property except for maybe
one or two is worth 500 grand.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (14:05):
And he said, because- The risk.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Is a lot lower. Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Have lots of, many cheap ones.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And it was really interesting.
Speaker 14 (14:13):
That's what made me learn more about the real estate
world and whatever. And like, it's great to see someone
like that. You know, she has, obviously has a multiple of,
she probably has 30 or 40, like, but is very
smart with how she does it.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And obviously has gone on to do great things in film.
I mean, yeah, to be fair, she has earned a lot.
Speaker 14 (14:35):
She has a lot of money, but it still shows
there's a way to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, it's smart that she had a backup.
Speaker 14 (14:40):
But that's exactly right.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
You don't see it with a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
But you've got to be speculative with real estate. It's
not easy.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Go to the dodgy places and think, is there something
great about this that no one's realised? Like my mum
bought our family home and it was only because they
couldn't afford it in Sydney on the Parramatta River. in Abbotsford,
which is the inner west, in 1967, and no one
wanted to live on the river.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Because it stunk.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And it was right next to the quarantine station where
animals would come and then there was a crematorium there
so that if the animal died from a disease– So
it was just.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Like, do you know how much she sold it for? Well,
you do know because I've told you. But a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So bought for $ 13, 000, fully furnished in 67 and sold
for $ 6 million.
Speaker 13 (15:26):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It's insane.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Right now though, speaking of kids, my little fellow Raffi
was in here yesterday. His mum dropped him off on
her way to work because he was sick and he
wasn't too bad though.
Speaker 14 (15:43):
So he is you.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
He's a mini you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And so, well, he had a microphone thrust upon him and.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Drew, our boss, asked Raffy for a little bit of feedback.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
About the show and specifically you, I think, you went, Corey.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So, Raffy, what does Corey need to stop doing on
the radio?
Speaker 12 (16:00):
He needs to stop talking over Kip because then he
loses more stars and it's also very, very annoying to
my dad.
Speaker 11 (16:10):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 14 (16:14):
That is 100% something you've said.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
First of all, he called me Kip.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Obviously, he's seen the star chart here and he's asked
why you had less stars than me and he's put
it together that it's.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The talking over.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Now, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's so funny.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
If everyone in the world thinks it's because they're talking
over Kip, now I'm going to take that instead of
the real reasons.
Speaker 13 (16:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Because I don't want the real reasons to come out.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Why you don't have staff. What are the real reasons?
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Oh, yeah. Okay, so here's the thing, because my mum's
the same. Whenever she tunes in, it's just like, that
Corey's got to stop talking over everyone. And I'm just like,
but mum, it's the way his brain works.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
He just has something in his head and he has
to get it out.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Is that fair?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
And I find it so fascinating that that's a thing
that Raphael would bring up because he talks over everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
At all times.
Speaker 12 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
If you're on the phone, dad, blah, blah, blah, it
just comes in.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Whatever thought he's having has to be expressed at that instant.
Speaker 14 (17:15):
I reckon in school for about nine years, that was
my report card.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Talks over everybody.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
Doesn't stop. Doesn't realise when it's not his turn.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Still don't. I haven't listened.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you know, that makes sense, Kip, because as a
seven-year-old in his mind, someone else is getting into trouble
for the one thing that he gets into trouble for.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So it is the greatest part of deflection ever.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
It is.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
It's okay.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
If someone else is in trouble, let's pile on.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
It's okay for those kids out there. Look, everyone goes
through it, okay?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Struggles in life.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What?
Speaker 14 (17:49):
Just not realising when it's not your turn.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Robin, Kit and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Love live radio. You never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
We just had Sandra Sully in studio because Robin's broadcasting
out of our Sydney studios today.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We've got you on Skype or Zoom, whatever this is.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Whatever this thing is.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
And we just had Sandra Sully sitting in with you
while we did A Cash or Crash.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
She was singing along to Kenny.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Didn't know we could all see her. And now one
of her producers has gone, you've got another interview. You've
got to leave.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
So she's coming back in a second, but we are
going to talk to Sandra about today in particular being
September 11th. And 25 years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
It's incredible, hey, 25 years.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
She was the person that broke the news to Australia.
She was doing late night news on Channel 10. And,
you know, I mean, back in the day, 25 years ago,
television was almost 24-7.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
But she was the one that was in a bulletin.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And we'll get more details from her as to exactly
what unfolded. But she was doing live news. And then
a story was breaking in the States. And here's how
it started to unfold.
Speaker 16 (18:57):
But a major breaking story in the United States. New York,
as we speak, you can see the pictures there coming
in now live from CNN. The news, the details, a
plane has just crashed into the World Trade Centre. We
will bring you the details as soon as we get them.
Welcome back to Thames Lake News and to that breaking story.
More details are coming through from the wire services and CNN.
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We can now confirm a second plane has crashed into
the second tower of the World Trade Centre. As you
can see, the pictures there, these details are literally, you know,
the events are unfolding as we speak.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
She just did such a fantastic job. Late Night News,
you know, and she was very young at that time
as well.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
And Late Night News was really just a replay of
what news had happened through the day. They were very
rarely were they breaking news and then something happening like that,
as big as that, while you're live on air.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
It would have been. been hard.
Speaker 14 (19:50):
And that's why I'd love to answer the question, just
like the emotion that she was probably holding back.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, you can hear it in her voice. She will
come back in and we will do this.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I have a feeling because I went to the 9-11
Museum in New York City.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I have a feeling they have.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
A little piece of her because they do a whole
thing of it breaking around the world.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And her, you know, news story is now in our
National Archive.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Because it was part of history that was unfolding and
that's how Australia discovered it. I mean, we've talked a
little bit about when we found out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It is one of those moments.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like when Steve Irwin died. I remember exactly what
I was doing and I was breastfeeding my nine-month-old son, Finn.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
And Tony came rushing in going, I thought this was
a joke.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And then he turned on the TV in the bedroom
and then we literally stayed up all night.
Speaker 15 (20:40):
Corey, how old were you?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You were teeny tiny.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Seven.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Seven.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
So when did you find out?
Speaker 14 (20:47):
Oh, look, I think I remember something happened during school
the next day. That was about it.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (20:57):
I don't remember a lot, obviously, because I was only seven. Um,
but yeah, I think I remember finding out while I
was in one of the classes. Um, and that was
obviously the next day, but, um, yeah. And for us kids,
I don't know if we would have known much or
thought anything about it.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (21:13):
But I remember the school.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Had a, had a, there was a bit going on
at the time.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
So, um.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And there's a crazy story, like, for example, about Ian Thorpe,
who was in New York City at the time, and
he was going to go up to the top of
the World Trade Center to take some photos because they
were the best photos of New York City and forgotten
his camera. And so he was going early in the
morning and then went back to the hotel. And while
he was in the hotel, he could hear the commotion
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turned on the television and realized.
Speaker 15 (21:42):
that it had saved his life.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It saved his life, forgetting that camera.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
I wonder if he's woo-woo at all about that because that's,
I mean, you could certainly look at that as a miracle,
couldn't you?
Speaker 16 (21:50):
Yeah, really.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Something is telling you this is not your time.
Speaker 14 (21:54):
But I also seen just a quick video about a
guy changed his ticket really late the day before, the
night before to the next flight for no reason. He
just thought, oh, I'm not going to make that flight.
I'll I'll just change it. And then he rocked up
at the same time because he could have made the
first flight.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Yep.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
And then just to make sure his ticket would work
because he was worried about it not working. And he
goes to the counter, does this work? And they go,
have you not heard what's happened?
Speaker 10 (22:23):
And then they told him.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
What had happened on the plane he was meant.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
To be on.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And we should say that today or rather overnight, a
drone display has recreated the Twin Towers in New York City.
2,977 drones lit up the sky in the place where
the World Trade Center towers once stood before the attacks almost, yeah,
25 years ago. Each drone had a light representing each
of the people lost in the attacks. And what they
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did was you saw the drones swirling, excuse me, and
then they turned them off. And they created the building.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Incredible how they did it.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Yeah. That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It looks really cool. That'll be floating around today.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Sandra is doing her thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
We will get her back in. Yep, we'll check.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And we will chat about what she was feeling when
it happened.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Rob and Kip and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Sandra Sully is literally running back into the studio.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Oh, okay, great.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
This is live radio, as you know it, because she
is the face of this 9-11 anniversary, I guess. It's
25 years ago today because, Sandra, you broke the news
to Australia.
Speaker 15 (23:27):
Yeah, I know, and I can't.
Speaker 16 (23:32):
You know, always find the words because the night itself
was so emotional and so enormous. There was no, you know, rehearsal.
I mean, news by its very nature is unprecedented. There's
no warning when news breaks, but something of that scale
and magnitude.
Speaker 15 (23:48):
I could never have possibly ever predicted.
Speaker 16 (23:50):
And still find it hard at times to sort of
recognise that I got through it the way I did.
Speaker 15 (23:57):
How did you, mate?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (24:01):
I think....
Speaker 16 (24:03):
I just refused to allow emotion. I couldn't open that
door because I would not have been able to come back.
And I remember a virtual seatbelt coming across my body
and clamping me into the chair, knowing that this was
going to be an enormous, significant ride. And I wanted
to try and survive it professionally. Not that I was
(24:26):
worried about me, but I had to do the story
justice because everybody that was listening, I needed to try
to wake them up mentally, you know, tell your friends,
wake up friends and family. This was an event so significant.
I knew the financial hub of the Western world was
under attack. The East Coast of the United States, you know,
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air services, all airlines have been grounded. And while we
knew two planes had gone in, another two were on
their way. The Pentagon was next and then Pennsylvania. Our
own prime minister was in Washington. And then we had
a hijacked plane go down in Pennsylvania. And we didn't
know where it.
Speaker 15 (25:05):
Was going to stop.
Speaker 16 (25:05):
And we also, it seems randomly silly in hindsight, but
hindsight's a 2020 thing, isn't it? At the time, no
one really expected those buildings to actually collapse.
Speaker 15 (25:16):
And then when they did, it was a concertina collapse.
Speaker 16 (25:19):
Pancake shuddering of horrendous proportions that you just were sort
of staggered and trying you know i just remember grappling
to find the words to adequately describe what i was
watching how much.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Help did you get from your team like was there
someone in your ear do you remember the moment like
was it something coming into your ear like a producer
or director saying hey sandra um you know, there's news
coming or did they even just tell you what it
is and you had to try and freestyle?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Like what happened?
Speaker 15 (25:50):
There was no team. I was there on my own.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
No.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
You did that by yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (25:58):
There was no one.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So hang on. So what happens?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
How do you find out? What happens then as a journo?
Speaker 16 (26:04):
Oh, well, look, we had an EP, but the team
had gone home. Sports Tonight were waiting to come on
after us. So there was just myself and Michael Reid,
the EP, our line-up producer.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (26:14):
And he was in the control room and I think
the first break had gone to where we were in
a commercial break and Darren Keller, who I still work
with to this day, had spotted the vision going in
because in those days there was really only CNN.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Right.
Speaker 15 (26:29):
You know, there were no smartphones, no social media, no Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.
Speaker 11 (26:33):
No.
Speaker 16 (26:33):
No live streams, videos. You know, with Bondi, everybody was
on their phone. They weren't in front of a television.
That didn't exist. The internet was only 10 years old.
So in the commercial break, I said, okay, light plane,
World Trade Center, wow.
Speaker 15 (26:46):
Have you got the pictures? Let's have a look.
Speaker 16 (26:48):
And I said to the producer, that's not a light plane.
That looks like a jetliner. Let's turn the pictures around
and come out of the break and go to air
with it. So we turned that around from seven minutes
of it occurring. We came out of the commercial break
from memory and ran those pictures live. And this is
so random as life would have it. I was an
(27:09):
exchange student in the States however many years before and
a good friend of mine grew up in New York
City and her father worked at the World Trade Center.
And he was rescued from a terrorism attack in 1993
and I remembered that. And I said to, I yelled
out to Tim Webster and the Sports Tonight team, get
me everything on 1993, the terrorism attack on World Trade Center.
Speaker 15 (27:29):
I need details. Because wires had frozen. Oh, of course.
Speaker 16 (27:34):
Right on the east coast of America where the majority
of all the major American news networks were based.
Speaker 15 (27:41):
They were in shock and speechless.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (27:44):
So they didn't know what to say. So I said,
give me CNN in my ear so that I could write.
I only had a pen and paper. There were no
wire copy.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So were you getting something in one ear while you're
talking in another or you're doing this during commercial breaks
or whilst, because it's, It turned from you just doing
a bulletin into a complete live broadcast that went for hours.
Speaker 16 (28:04):
So I had CNN in my ear and I just
kept writing notes. And then after, so when the producer
ran out of the control room once the second plane
went in and I looked at Michael as if to say, WTF,
don't leave me.
Speaker 15 (28:19):
Yeah. Don't leave me. And he said, just keep talking.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (28:24):
And you.
Speaker 16 (28:24):
And what happened was he ran over, you know, to
the control, you know, the Chief of Staff's area because
we had a LA correspondent, Michelle Stone. She was in
New York for the US Open. Leighton Hewlin had just
won the US Open.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
That's right.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Right?
Speaker 16 (28:42):
And then we had Deb Knight on the ground in
Washington because Howard was there. Our Prime Minister was in Washington.
So he got Michelle and Deb Knight on the line.
Those two did an outstanding job. Michelle was on the
streets of New York with our cameraman Paul Atkinson at
the time, and Deb Knight was on the ground in
the Pentagon in Washington, and that plane had gone in.
Speaker 15 (29:04):
Far out.
Speaker 16 (29:04):
So Michael connected Deb and Michelle and I, and that's
all we had. And in between breaks, I would be
taking copious notes from CNN, and then over the ensuing hours,
we'd run a slab of CNN while we gathered more
information and kept crossing back It was just the three
of us. And Michael, and Michael then went, after he'd
connected us, he then called the rest of the newsroom
(29:27):
executives and said, get up, get in here.
Speaker 15 (29:30):
You know, this is, off we go, off we go.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
So how do you feel.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
About that now? I mean, you're clearly still emotional. I'm
sitting directly across from you and there's, you know, there's
tears not too far away.
Speaker 15 (29:43):
What does that evoke for you?
Speaker 16 (29:45):
It's always like a visceral numbness, if that makes sense.
I feel like I did that night.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
I couldn't allow myself to get emotional.
Speaker 10 (29:57):
I do after.
Speaker 15 (29:58):
It was four or five days before I. cried. And
it doesn't matter about me. I mean, 3,000 people lost
their lives that night.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You were the one that brought the story and you
did it with such compassion while you're watching people die
in front of you, knowing that you're going to take
that to our country. That is a massive responsibility to
be able to hold yourself.
Speaker 16 (30:18):
I had the privilege of being in the chair that night.
I always feel it's a privilege to do what I do.
I just wanted to do the story justice and not
let myself or anyone else down. I needed to I
always feel like when people woke the next morning, they
knew what had happened and it may have taken them
time to process the information, the scale of events and
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what actually happened. They needed to see the pictures and
understand it. But we lived the horror and the trauma
and to this day people will still come and grab
me by the hands, complete strangers, and they'll say.
Speaker 15 (30:51):
These few words, I was with you.
Speaker 16 (30:54):
And they don't need to finish the sentence because we
know Because we lived the trauma of those hours watching
what we thought was the beginning of World War III,
you know, and watching people die.
Speaker 15 (31:09):
And you never saw those bitches again after five o'clock.
Speaker 16 (31:11):
And I'm just relieved that people think I did the
story justice in the events of that magnitude, you know.
Speaker 15 (31:18):
You absolutely did.
Speaker 16 (31:19):
Because I just felt so responsible and overwhelmed, really, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, you did not only yourself but the whole of
the country proud, mate.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
And as soon as we turn this microphone off, I'm
going to give you.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
A really good hug. Thanks, Adam.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 15 (31:35):
Thanks for having me, team.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Robin Kipp and Corey Oates in the morning.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
So, Robin, you've been in Sydney today for the show.
So you were able to chat face-to-face with Sandra Sully
while we were down there.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
Why are you there, Rob?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Yeah. Oh, hang on.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Sorry.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
Hang on.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Wait, I'll start again because Kip didn't do his job.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I didn't turn the thingy on. It's a separate one.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Sorry.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Go again.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I'm here for two reasons. One is I come down
once a month.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
My mum lives in Sydney and I just need to
support my sister as she's getting older. But the other
main reason, and I'm really torn up about it, it's
my high school reunion tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
High school.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And I just don't like, I get, I go between, oh,
this will be so fun, you know, catching up with
everyone to, oh my God, I don't want to be
seen dead in that room.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
Am I allowed to say which one it would be
or no?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Well, no.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I'll leave that out of the context.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Let's people be nice and believe it's possibly less than
what it is.
Speaker 11 (32:29):
It is.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Let's go through the positives and the negatives. Have you
got people that you would like to see there?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I'm still really good friends with one girl from school, Sam,
who actually met her current partner at my wedding to Sean,
and he was a friend of Sean's.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So we sat them on the same table because we
thought they'd be a great hookup and they're still together.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And you were right.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
So there you go.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
So I was right.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
So out of how many?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So you've got Sam.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
How many kids used to go to this school?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So I went to a Rudolf Steiner school in year
11 and 12, so we had a very small class
of 35.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It was a school where you didn't wear a uniform.
You called your teachers by their first name. Like it
was one of those alternative.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Sort of schools.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
What a school. And so I don't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
I don't want to do that. Yeah. I'm going.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
And it was that thing. I shouldn't tell you this,
but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
But because it was such a small school and we
were quite adventurous young people. You know, you slept with
half of them by the end of year 12.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
All right.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Crossing that off the list for the kids.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
We were 18. I was 18 in year 12.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Mum, what was school like back in your day?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Oh, well. It was a shag fest, kids. It wasn't
like now.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Queensland was so different.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I went to school in New South Wales, obviously.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So I did.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I was 18. I turned 18 in year 12. So
we were older.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Is that the other reason you don't want to go?
Speaker 10 (33:59):
It's all the.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Old people you slept with.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
That's a nightmare.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
It is.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Hey, Rob, remember that time?
Speaker 9 (34:13):
Yeah, so you go to see Sam, but you also
have to see Billy, James, Shane.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Well, the guy I first fell in love with.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You know, my first true love, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Was your teacher.
Speaker 15 (34:26):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Why do I tell you these things?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do you reckon he'll be there, the bloke you first
fell in love with?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I know he's going to be there because we
had to have an accept or decline.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
And it's not that I've got feelings for him or
anything like that. It's just weird.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
How's he going though?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like have you dodged a bullet?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 15 (34:46):
This is the other thing.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
Has he sold a billion dollar company? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's stuff I don't care about. Like I think life
goes on, but it's just weird.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
The last time we had a reunion, which was 10
years ago, And I was just newly dating Sean, and
it was again in Sydney.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
We went to the Oaks, which is quite an iconic
pub in Neutral Bay.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And I rang Sean, and I'm like, get me out
of here.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
And so I bolted.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I just remember how old everyone looked. I've been to one.
I'm like, man, everyone's so old.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
And they were probably thinking the same thing about me,
but I was just like.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
If you shaved your beard, you wouldn't look so old.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
I know.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Well, I didn't have a grey beard at that stage.
And my last reunion, I hadn't had kids yet. And
all my friends, like all the people at school had
had kids. So that all aged terribly.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And now I've caught up. You've greyed in the.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Last six months.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And I feel like it's a personality competition.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Like everyone's, I don't know. It just feels like, I
don't know, maybe I'm. I live in Queensland. I'm not here.
I don't get invited.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
I think people have just had enough. They're like, he
left school and we don't want to see him ever again.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, he used his quota of words decades ago.
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