November 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Jana dives into three wild worlds in one episode: a man living in a lavender marriage opens up about the truth behind it, we unpack the outfits that instantly turn women off, and an Australian escort joins us to reveal her most jaw-dropping industry secrets. Buckle up — this one goes everywhere.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, cheeky one, heads up, Saucy Secrets is about
to start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
This isn't your average radio chat. It has adult themes
and some sexual references. We're diving into real confessions, spicy fantasies,
and some real jaw dropping stories. So if you're easily shocked,
maybe go find a gardening show. But if you're ready
for some fun, a little scandal and absolutely no judgment,
you're in the right safe place.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Real people, real confessions. It's Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm kiss Saucy Secrets. Welcome back to Saucy Secrets. I'm
Sex and Dating columnists Jannah Hawking joining me. It's radio
extraordinary MC, thank you, thank you, sanch I. Now you
love when I say that. And we have a big
show coming up. Just looking at the run sheet, we're
talking lovender marriages, which are so hot right now, we've
(00:51):
got a famous Aussies. Good on.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm concerned about something that's on the run sheet.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I've never come in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I enjoy coming in, I enjoy spending my time with you,
I enjoy doing this show.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But I'm looking at the run sheet.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, I'm actually concerned that my appearance will be judged Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, it is. It is because coming up next, I
am going through the seven things men wear that give
us the biggest ick. You men have had a lot
of say on what we've been wearing. Oh my god,
I wore a shirt and tie on one of the
recent episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Got a lot of dms about that. Then, are no
fence if I put on a shit shirt. I thought
I looked alright. I thought this was okay.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well you'll find out in the next segment. Now, I've
had a lot of men sliding into my dms for years,
telling me what looks good on me, what doesn't look
good on me?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
By a minute? You mean men can be entitled on
the incidet.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's outrage.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Don't believe it has never happened.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But I've also been on a lot of dates with
guys who have turned up in the worst clothes and
we're already off to your back.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I thought you were about to say you've turned up
on dates and the blokes have told you that they
don't like your outfit to your face.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, they just want to get me out of.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The app Oh, don't care what the clothes look as
long as they're on the bedroom flow.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Maybe on the first date. Maybe not. But there was
an article that went viral recently on Daily Mail. One
of my fellow columnists decided to put together eleven things
that women wear that he can't stand, and I was like, really, well,
after years of being told what like you don't like
about us, I've put together a list of stuff that
(02:26):
we don't like men wearing. And it's you know, if
you want to turn up to a date, have your
best foot forward. Maybe you got divorced, you're back on
the market. Here is not what to wear, and you
should be nervous.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I really wish I'd read this article and done my
research before choosing my outfit today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You have broken one, but that's not my first one.
My first one is ill fitting ties. I don't understand
gents like you can repeat wear clothes all the time,
but when it comes to weddings or you know, christenings
or things like that, you always have one tie and
it's from either your school formal, your school.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Clothes, the really big, wide, shiny one that you've had
from t say Taro Cash.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now they do great ties.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, no, they're fine, But I have a theory, right,
And this got a few people upset. In the comment
section when I wrote about this, we women spend hundreds,
if not thousands of dollars on outfits. You can repeat
now I've done a bit of research. You can get
a beautiful wire cell or deal or like a beautiful
European branded tie for at the most five hundred dollars.
(03:34):
We couldn't even get one shoe from these brands for
five hundred dollars. It's that's the only thing you will
have to spend. We need a new dress for every
event we go for for the Gram, you can get away.
I invest in one five hundred dollars tie, and then
you can wear your beautiful Tarot Cash or whatever outfit
and we'll all think you're wearing Gucci because you're wearing
a beautiful Gucci tie. Also, stop putting it down near
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your crutch or.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Up to tiant to touch your dick. It's meant to
sort of just sit above your pant right just above.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The belt line.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Perfect, sort out the tie situation. Okay, the next one
you say you're not wearing them, but you are. The
next one is death to skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In my defense, these are slim, not skinny. There's a
difference and it's only because I'm sitting down that my
girthy thighs are wrapping the jeans around my legs.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
No, no, no, they're skinny at here's the reason as well.
And this got me in trouble when I wrote about this. Men,
you either don't have bombs, so go straight from your
back to your legs, yeah, or you do have bombs
and every time so you've got a booth. Don't like
if you squat or sit down in front of us.
We don't want to see what you ate for breakfast.
So death to the skinny jeans.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Lucky you're wearing slim.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The next one I feel like you probably do wear
is the baggy gym shorts.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You're assuming that I go to the gym, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So many men were your jym shawts out And the
first thing that comes to my mind is like low
hanging sweaty balls. All I keep thinking about is just
your balls hanging loose in these ugly dreams. They're pajamas
and you're wearing them out in public. Death to those
right this one, I'm very passionate about the thongs or
the croc situations. I've had two guys turn up to dates.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
In thongs so toky to wear them, like if you're
in the backyard or you're going to the beach, sure, beach.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Fine makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Not even to the pub. They're not good. Also, if
you embellish your crocs.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Straight toed do they call them gibbets? Gibbets the little
things that they steer gibbets or giblets?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't know, and may I never not know because
they're horrific straight to jow oh flashy jewelry or like
you know how guys wear all of those bands that
they got from like a lad's trip to Thailand, or
the thick necklaces so gross, so oh oh my god,
you are wearing them, oh, straight to jails straight.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But I even get them from a lad's trip. It's
like tiger eye. There's an evil eye. There's like a
like a nice silver bracelet.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
See?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would just keep the silver bracelet?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
What did I know?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
The jury is for the women. We don't want you
looking like mister t the next one or cargo shorts
and graphic teas. Okay with those jack black like if
your whole personality is like burst bood drinker in the world,
or you've got those horrific hippie shirts.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I do remember when I was a young man, I
used to wear and I thought it was hilarious and
it said how to pick up chicks and it was
three diagrams. I think I got it from JJ's like
in the late nineties, and it was a diagram of
a person picking up like it like an actual chicken.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh see that joke.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
What a cool guy.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Chuck out your cargo shorts, You're not going through the bush.
Chuck out your graphic teas. That doesn't give you a personality,
just a beautiful linen shirt. And finally the two small
polo shirts. We get that you go to the gym.
We love that you go to the gym, but if
you're showing more cleavage than me, get out, get out.
(07:08):
And also why do men get them where they really
cinch at the arm, Like what is the purpose of them? No,
you're fine, you pass with that, but it just makes
you look like a wenka, like a gym junkie wnker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We have talked about all kinds of things on the show,
and I've never been more uncomfortable and more nervous in
my life.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Good because now you know how women feel. Joining us
today is a man named Marty, all the way from Phoenix, Arizona. Marty,
what is your saucy secret.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
My saucy secret is I am gay and I have
a wife.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
How does that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How did this happen?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It's called a lauvender marriage.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, they're very hot right now. How does the loving
the marriage work? Because I think I want one.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think many women do well. A modern day labyrin
marriage is when a gay man and a straight woman
really decide to build a life together. So it's something.
It's about purpose. It's not a cover like it used
to be in the twenties. It was created in Hollywood
as a cover, but everyone is talking about it now.
It's not a secret. It's really just two people who
know they're going to make an incredible team.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Oh I love that because my stepdad had a serious
word with me a little while ago. He sat me down,
he was all very serious and he goes, Jenna, I
think I've discovered why you don't have a boyfriend. And
I said why and he goes, because you just keep
hanging out with gay men, how are you gonna make
any straight ones?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, there's certainly a demographic of women. We call them
fruit flies. This is the gays, and they're usually beautiful
women like yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh thank you. I'm happy to be a fruit fly.
But how does it work in terms of sex and relations? Like,
you've got kids to you?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I do?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I have one daughter?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yes, So does that mean you've slept together in a
marriage sense or was that a turkey base?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No, it was a marriage sense. So we were in
a legacy marriage I like to call it, for eleven years.
And then I came out again again to her because
I actually came out when we first got together, and
that is a true lavender marriage. And then eleven years
into the marriage, during the whole pandemic, I really started
thinking about things and was like, I need to be
an out gay man. And so we had another tough
(09:31):
conversation and we've spent the last three years kind of
transitioning our marriage, if you will, into a true lavender
marriage today.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So can I ask, and I'll do this as delicately
as I can. How do you scratch the itch that
you're clearly not going to get scratch being in this
lavender marriage?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That is a great question. We have data plans and
so we communicate with each other. We are you know, absolutely,
I don't like to use the word aloud, but we
communicate to each other. We really planned when we went
into this, and again it's been a very long drawn
out thing, if you will. We've really put a lot
of work and effort, counseling therapy into what this marriage
looks like. And so we really planned for it to evolve.
(10:08):
We know that, you know, maybe that person is going
to come along for either one of us at some
point in time, and we want to make sure that
that person obviously fits the dynamic of our family and
they have to love either one of us in order
to do either one of us, if you will. And
I'm going to make sure that any man she's with
is not gay this time.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, that's just being a good that's just being a
good husband, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You've got it. You've got to do that for your wife.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right And are you worried that she will fall in
love with the guy that will want to you know,
move into the house or play step dad or change
the dynamic?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know, I'm not worried about it. It is something
again that we've really planned for. It's something that. You know,
when I look back at when I was in my
legacy marriage, if you will, that was something that I
had a lot of guilt about.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I always felt in some ways like I wasn't a
real man in every way, and even we had an
intimate relationship. We obviously have a child. I just always
knew I wasn't as affectionate and didn't love her in
all those ways like I should. And so at the
end of the day, yes, it will, it will hurt.
That's still my wife. I've been with her for seventeen years.
But I will. I know she will pick a great
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man and I will be happy to see her, you know,
get some really, I try.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
To push her out there.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
She always acts like it's a surprise when somebody hits
on her, and I was like, you're you're a bomb bitch,
you know, get it girl.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So yeah, how old is your daughter? And if she's
old enough, what does she know of the Lavender marriage?
What is her understanding? How have you communicated this with her?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
She lives in a house with Mouth of the South here,
who's on social media every day. Yes, she is fully
aware of the Lavender marriage. She is To answer your question,
she is fourteen going on life coach.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I got good good.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
She does know about it when I told her. I
actually told her two years after I came out at
work and after I, you know, came out again to
my wife again. Very thoughtfully planned, appropriately timed.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
All of it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I had a therapist that helped me map all of
this out. And honestly, kids these days, they they don't
look at sexuality and put as much empasit on it
as we do. It was kind of a blip in
the radar for her. She really doesn't give a shit.
She said, she helps. My boyfriend is nice, and then
she kind of laughed when she thought about her mom
having a boyfriend who she actually talked to her therapist
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about it, and she was like, my mom, she's not
going to get a boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
But she will.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think I want to love into marriage.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
We're building the framework, the blueprints.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
So here for me on a LAMA list.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I want to find you. They want to they want
to learn more about your lavender marriage.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Can I Why can I do that? Where can we
find you?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
They can follow me on TikTok or Instagram at It's
Mick Marty Fly, or they can go to Lama dot Life,
which is my website landing page. There's a lot more.
There's podcasts about us there, there is blog post on
there and of course the wait list for my lavender
marriage app that's l l M.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
A late will be joining.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well. Look, we wish you the best, good luck in
this current version of your lavender marriage and whatever the
future might hold.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you so much for coming on, Soucy Secrets. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Thank you so much, Love you. Today's guest is one
of Australia's top escorts and she has seen everything, the secrets,
the scandals, the world requests, even a married man who
dropped forty five grand on her. But with over forty
two thousand followers and a reputation for brutal honesty, she's
(13:31):
here to spill what men really get up to behind
closed doors. Please welcome Lilith Lodge.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Hello, guys, what made.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You want to get into escording?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Look, it was kind of a progression. I started out
in I guess the easier elements of sex work. So
I started out as a cam goal and I did
a night industrip club back when I was like nineteen.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
From there, I progressed and did a full year.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
As a dancer, and it kind of got a little
money hungry and I wanted something more, and therefore I
ended up as a full service escort.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I've had a really great experience so far, and I've
learned a lot of things, particularly about men.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, can you tell.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Us some of those things, because you get to see
them at their most vulnerable and their most primal. What's
something that surprised you about the men who do book
your services?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I think the most surprising thing for me was that
a lot of them, it's not just about the sex.
Like when you think of an escort, you think she
spends the entire time or five hour booking or four
hour booking having sex. But for a lot of them,
the emotional connection and having somebody that they can talk
to about literally anything and everything is really important to them.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I think that was quite surprising to me. I've had
a lot of men book me and not even have
sex at all.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Really, I'd be a little bit offended if someone walked
to me.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Is it like when you go to the hairdresser or
the barber for some reason, You're just will open up
to that person because they're completely removed from your friendship circle,
your family see feel comfortable with them.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What kind of stuff you talk about with this bloe?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Absolutely, I think two people being naked laying in a
bed together when I know none of their family, not
like their workplace, nothing like that, no one in their life.
They feel a lot more comfortable opening up to me
about a lot of things. This could be things like,
you know, troubles in their marriage, or you know, traumatic
experiences they've had in life, someone passing away. They will
just trauma dump on me while I'm there, and I'm
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all there for it.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, you're kind of like a therapist. Now, you've been
quite open about the fact that a lot of married
men come to see you. I have a theory that
married men tend to go to escorts because it's the
madonna whore theory. Have you heard about this? Okay, So
a lot of men see their wives as a madonna,
(15:45):
someone who's beautiful and who they have nice, sweet, missionary
sex with, but they're too scared to tell them about
their kinks, so they go to someone who they can
pay to try out things that they might be too
nervous to ask their wife. Have you found that?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, I think this is a big part of the
reason why they come and see someone like me.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
A lot of these guys have some sort.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Of unusual thing that they are into and they just
don't feel comfortable asking their wife, or if they do,
she's kind of shut them down about it earlier on
and they've just never mentioned it again.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What are some of the things.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Some of the most.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Unusual would probably be fart requests, which.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm thinking, what can you can you fart on me?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They get they can like they get off on farting.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I'm your forgu Yeah, So I'd say that's probably the
most out there thing that I have done. I have
a couple of clients who have a thing for women
farthing on them. It's a domination sort of thing. They
want it to be like, you know, take that.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Do them, And it is quite unusual.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Because I mean, when are they going to be able
to ask a girlfriend or a wife to fart in
their face?
Speaker 8 (16:52):
It just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
There are some other unusual things I would say, like
pegging or I get a lot of feet guys. That's
actually quite common, but they just don't feel comfortable asking
their girlfriend or their partner for that sort of thing,
because they'll think that it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think pegging is way more common than people think.
I get when I used to run source his secrets
on my Instagram, so many guys well like, I'm into pegging.
I'm into pegging. Do you think it will ever be normalized?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I wish it was, Honestly, it's one of my favorite
things to do. I actually had a scene doing that yesterday,
so it's like fresh in my mind.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I think it's just it's really taboo for them to
talk about, right because a lot of people like, oh,
that's gay.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
You know, if you're into that, you're gay. And I
think it just puts all.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
This stigma around it. But it is quite a common
request for us, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And isn't that where a men's geese spot is up there?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
But yes, okay, so why would they put it in
there if they weren't meant to have anything in there?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Exactly, they must experience it. A friend of mine tried
it the other day with her partner, and she actually
put her hip out because she didn't realize how much
like thrust goes in the stretch.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
She wasn't Limba wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
We've never had to do it, so we don't know
how much effort you guys actually put in.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Bravo, guys, good cardigo. How many married men come in
with the permission of their wives or their wives know
that they're in there with you? Is that something that happens.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Yeah, this does happen. It is quite rare, but it
does happen. But one comes to mind immediately. He was
a guy who booked me for an hour, walked into
my apartment, gives me the money, and he's.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Talking to me. He's like, my wife knows that i'm here.
She actually booked you, and I didn't want to see you.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You're not my type, but she said that you were
the one that she wanted me to see. So she
picked me out and I asked him a few questions.
I was like, oh, this is interesting. I haven't heard
about this before. And he's like, yeah, I'm allowed four
a year, one per quarter for one hour each. I
can't do one once because I'll get too attached.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh my god. So wait, is that because she doesn't
want to have sex with him or because she wants
him to have variety?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:50):
She doesn't have sex with him, That's what he said.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So we only get sex four times a year. That's
soo sad.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I wonder what the criteria was when she was
selecting the right person for him. Clearly it was you know,
the best of the best, and that's why you were
chosen naturally obviously.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now, what's the most common insecurity clients have when they
come to see you? Like, is there anything that stands
out that they're a bit insecure about?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I feel like the most common one I encounter is
the size of their dick.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I don't know what it is a man, but I
think it stems from.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Watching porn and they're seeing the extreme, like the monster
Cox is what they're seeing, and they're thinking that is
what's considered large.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
And a lot of them are regular or large.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Sizing condoms coming to see me and being like, oh,
I know it's small, and I'm like, babe, you're actually
a large.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Sizing condoms like, this is not small.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I've even had someone who was a supermax, which is
the biggest size of condom that we have here in Australia,
and he's like, oh, yeah, I know, it's regular sizing, Like, Babe,
that thing is huge.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Can you please help settle the debate because I always say,
women don't want really big ones. We just want to
normal size one and we just want you to know
how to use it. Do you find that because it
does always start a debate whenever I say that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm not really interested in the really big ones, like
especially super mats. They can be really painful, especially if
they're by rough and they don't build you up properly.
Like that can be a painful experience, especially for women
who don't do my job and they're not super experienced
with all of that. You know, it can be a lot.
You need a lot of loop to get the thing
in there. I think a regular even a slim, like
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a slightly smaller one that's like you think they need
to be about three inches long really to hit the
right spot, So three inches and above they can still
make you come.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh thank god you said that, because no one ever
believes me. I'm like, it's true. If we have to
do breathing exercises to sleep with you, we don't want
any part of it. And what are you thinking about,
like when you're having sex with them, are you like
in the moment, are you enjoying it, because I spoke
to an escort a few years ago and she said
(20:52):
that she was just mentally going through her shopping list, like, Oh,
I've got to go pick up the steak before I
go and pick up the kids after school. What are
you thinking about when you're having sex with these men?
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
I can imagine if I was often like Dreamland and
they're like dirty talking to me and I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
I would never get repeat business.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
They'd be like, oh, yeah, do you like that? And
I'd be like thinking about my shopping list. No, I'm
very present with my clients. I can understand that a
lot of girls may just switch off. I feel like
at my price point that I'm charging and all that
sort of thing, I really need to be on it
and I need to be super present or else I'm
not going to get any work and I'm not going
to get repeat clientele. So for me, I'm very much
in the moment and focusing on what's happening and trying
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to figure out are they enjoying that?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Do I need to slow down? Do I need to
speed up?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
You know that's kind of more where my brain is
very much in it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Is it sometimes really hard to be in that moment
because I'm assuming sometimes you've got clients that come in
for one of a bit of terms or a bit
gross and they are just the furthest thing from the
type of person you want to get intimate with. Is
it sometimes really difficult.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
To do your job?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
To me?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Not really.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
And the funny thing is that, you know, people always
think these guys are super repulsive that come and see us.
Some of the most attractive men that I have slept
with in my life. With clients as well, we get
a really mixed bag. You know, you never know what's
going to walk in the door. But what I've actually
found is a lot of those guys who were by
society standards unattractive are the best ones in bed.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
That's what I've experienced so far.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So a lot of the time, those guys that you're like, oh,
I don't know if I can sleep with them, they
will be the ones that know what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
It's really bizarre secret power.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Maybe because they've got to put in extra work, they
don't have the pretty privilege. A final question, it is
a big job what you do, and you know you
are part therapist, part you know, and there's a lot
of physical work that does go into it. How do
you decompress after a session? Like what do you do
to kind of ground yourself.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
When I was new in the industry, I feel like
the decompression thing was a big part of it. You know,
you'd finish the booking and you kind of stand there
for a second and just, I guess, dissociate, or maybe
sit on the ground in the shower, or get yourself
in the nice meal or something like that, put your
woodie on and sit there.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
But after that first.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Year, I feel like I don't really even do that anymore.
You know, I'll be heading to the shops the second
they leave. I'll be getting changed and put my shoes
on and heading to the shopping because and I are like,
I don't really feel the need to do that. But
I think for a lot of workers it's really important
having that separation between who they are and who they
are for work. You know, the real person and a
character that they play. But as those two things kind
of merge over time, I don't feel the need to
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super decompress, but I think the go to for most
workers is sitting on the floor of the shower and
just like rocking or like having the water hit their skin.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
I don't know. I hear them talk about it all
the time.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Sorry, I know I keep saying final one, but I
just have one more questions on what would be your
advice for anyone thinking of getting into the business. I
know a lot of people think it's quick, easy money,
But what would be your advice now that you've been
in it for a little while.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Look, I would say, make sure you're doing your research
before you do it. It's easy enough to see people
like myself included doing mone accounts on social media or
talking about these designer bags and goods that we got,
But you need to understand the reality of it too,
and really think long and hard about it.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
This industry isn't all glamorous, like horrible things do happen
to us on the job.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
It's not always easy, and I think you need to
really think and consider will I be able to handle
it when something goes wrong? Will I be able to
stand up for myself and say, hey, no, that's not okay?
Or will you kind of flounder and allow things to
happen to you. It's a lot harder than it looks
when you're watching it on social media and make sure
that you really think about the way it's going to
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impact the rest of your life, because you know, especially
if you're going to be face out and really outspoken
like myself, it's going to affect your career later on
if you decide you want to be an engineer or
work in it or work in a corporate office.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
It's going to follow you forever.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, gosh, that's good advice, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If people want to inquire, they want to book your services,
where do they go?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
How do they do it?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The best website is always Scarlet Blue, which is an
escorting directory here in Australia. It's probably the best one.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And where can we find you on the socials if
we just want to hear your stories?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
My TikTok's probably my best one. So I have two
different tiktoks, a lilith Lodge three point zero and lylith
Lodge Secret, and my main Instagram account is Lilith Underscore
Lodge and I post almost story times and things like
that on there.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, thank you so much for joining us on Saucy
Secrets and good luck with the future.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Fascinating.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Thank you so much. For having me.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We have a saucy secret that's quite left of field.
It's not something I've heard of before, but it's got
me intrigued. So joining us on the phone tonight is
someone who's preferring to go by anonymous. We won't be
outing them, but we want to hear everything they have
to say. Welcome to the show, Anonymous.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Hi there here you guys going good?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Thank you? Now, tell us what's your saucy secret.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
My sourcey secret is that I just attended a four
day long festival celebrating alternative relationships.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now it's a festival. Now when you say alternative, what
does alternative exactly mean?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Well, alternative predominantly talks about relationships that are not monogamous.
So we live in a society that predominantly celebrates monogamy,
the relationship between two people only. But alternative relationships can
be a combination of different types of relationships. But the
great thing about this particular event is called far or
(26:33):
Festival of Alternative Relationships. It celebrates not just the alternative
elements of these relationships, but also celebrates connection as a whole.
There's a whole different ways that we connect with one
another's human beings, and this allows us to connect on
deeper levels, more intimate levels, just with the people around us,
not necessarily with our partners, but even just as friends
(26:54):
and as and as love as well. It's a very
broad way of celebrating connection.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To the normal person. That might just sound like a
festival that's just a giant boink fest. Is there a
lot of sex going on at this festival?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Yeah, look, undeniably, Yes, absolutely, that is definitely part of
the highlight. On the Saturday night, there is a mandatory
workshop that everyone has to attend and it's about consent,
it's about communication, and there's multiple elements that you can join.
Three parts of it, predominantly in that space there was
(27:32):
the King Space, which was sponsored by Velvet Roade and
Our Secret Spot. And then which was you know, to
do with a whole bunch of King spaces that you've
got like impact play or whatever you've got. The Temple Space,
which was run by White Bikini and Charlotte, which is
about an escalation from getting to know people into a
(27:53):
getting into your body, getting into a movement and breast
and feeling into more of an organic sex environment. And
then lastly you had the Play space, which is essentially
a bunch of tents ready to rock and roll with
plenty of hands, you know, hand wash and condons and
beds ready to rock and roll for people that just
want to jump right in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So this festival is an open space where people can
actively go up to someone and say, I find you
really attractive. I'd like to get you, get to know
you better, perhaps on a more intimate level. So it's
just opening up those kind of conversations.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Are you are you in a relationship anonymous?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Did you go to this festival with a partner or
just a single dude and just went in there with
an open wine to see what waited for you.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I went single this time, but I have partners that
have people that I've taken on dates that were there
with their other boyfriends I've taken. I was there with
other people that have already gone on dates who ended up.
We had a spark, but we just ended up going
on dates instead of being friends. And that was a
really great way to engage with people.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Are people engaging in front of other people? Like do
you go off to private rooms or is is it
pretty open?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
It's look so people aren't really like especially if it's
broad daylight and like in the middle of the tent,
people are going to be able to either go to
their own tent or go to their own spaces, because
there has to be a degree of like are we
function Like it's going to be odd if people are
just like walking around just railing everywhere, but it still
has there's no explicit rule against it. But it's like
people generally respect the fact that it's like they're not
(29:26):
going to in the bathrooms, they're not going to in
like in like the cuddle puddle tents. They're just going
to like, you've got spaces to do it where it
makes more sense feel that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And I'm just looking at some of the workshops that
are on offer at this event, and you've got sound Healing,
Lovely Yep, how to develop lap dance experience, massage etiquette.
And then there's conscious sugar dating. What is conscious sugar dating?
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah, Conscious sugar dating was pretty interesting. That was explaining
how there were some sugar daddies that were basically asking
for the girlfriend experience because they've got the money and
they just generally don't have the time. General will find
(30:11):
like older single men that are looking for a younger
date to be able to spoil and to engage in
an intimate relationship, or to discuss elements where it is
mostly the tonic people that wouldn't normally be in your life.
You can bridge that gap with money.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Anonymous, thank you so much for telling us all about
the far festival. It sounds like a wild couple of
days and I'm glad you had a good time and
we appreciate you coming on Sucy Secrets.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
No, it's all.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Welcome, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Now, I'm very passionate about my sex toys. I have
tried all of them pretty much, but they are expanding,
and they're expanding.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Rapidly, becoming more common. You know, the taboo is gone.
It's a completely normal thing to have wherever you keep
it in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yes, and for those of us who have been single
for quite a long time, there are filling boyfriends. But
where is a new one. We've actually got it on
the show today. It's called the handy interactive stroker.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We were looking at the catalog that the products that
you can get from Juju and this one we went wha.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It stumped us, whoa? We thought, Okay, we've gone very
modern age now, so we need someone to come on
and tell us how it actually works in this world
of AI. So joining us today is Anton who's the
founder and managing director of Juju, my favorite sex toy company,
and he's going to explain what the heck is a
handy interactive stroker and why do all men need it?
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
It is a piece of tech which is absolutely incredible.
It's for penisis. It's an AI stroker which connects to
VA and synchronize it with the actually sitting on screen.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So basically, if you're watching porn, you can sink it
to the pawn. So it like so the stroker is
working as if you're the one having sex. Is that right?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'm worried that, like us women are going to be
out of a job. You would be like having a
really good time to your favorite porn stuff. What else
is coming up in terms of AI and sex toys,
Like what are they working on at the moment? What
else are you selling?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
At this stage? They're really focusing on the couples elements
of these toys. So this product, yes, you can enjoy
it as a solo session, but it's designed more in
terms of let's say you're in a long business relationship,
your significant other is across the world. They can control
it through their app, So it's kind of bridging relationships together.
(32:43):
So even though you're a part, you're still together, you
can still have fun together. And that's kind of where
the world within this AI sex take is heading. So
not so much the AI.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Robots.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
That's more about bridging couples together and the experiences together,
and of course, you know, giving the painters are owned
as a an awesome experience in the process. Because the
whole sex of industry throughout the history has always been
focused on female pleasure, So now male pleasures really come
out and men are realized, well, hang on a second,
(33:17):
we want something unique and new and different as well.
And that's why there's a whole boom in male sex tech.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
And it's so interesting because I got shamed the other
day and I really had to check myself because I
was hosting like a tell me a saucy secret thing
on my Instagram and this guy was like, I love cockages,
and I was sorry, what hang on here? What a cockage?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What is a cockcage?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That was my That was My first reaction and my
first interaction, which I had to check myself, was I went, ill,
a cockage. That's gross, And then I googled it and
it's like where men they can actually put their.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Cocks in a cage in a cage.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And so the women tease them and they can't do
anything about it, and it's about longevity. And I kind
of had a bit of attitude around it and went
off on my Instagram, and then all these guys came
from me and they're like, wait, you talk about vibrators
and dialdos all the time. Why are you shaming us?
And I really had to step back and go, oh,
I was shaming you, and that's not really fair because
(34:13):
I would get upset at anyone for shaming me for
talking about dialdo's a vibrators exactly. So I'm like, okay,
so it is. We do have to get rid of
the taboo because there is all this amazing stuff for men.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Now now while we've while we've got you on the show,
there are rumors that have gone around that you have
once sold a dildo that's worth more than a lot
of people would.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Spend on their cars. Is this true? What was this dildo?
Made of and where did it end up?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yes, so I was actually really shocked when I made
this sell in twenty twenty two and or it was
placed on the website for a twenty four parent old
player vibrator. Wow, you're a buyer in New South Wales
and it's called Leloes And to be honest, till that day,
(35:05):
like still still now I think about it, and it
caused us so much stress because we were so worried
that it was like whether io it was a genuine
order or not. I think one it was a fifteen
thousand dollars chargeback.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yes, that's a lot of.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
A lot of stress.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
After that one sale. My suppliers, the brands, everyone tells us,
let's let's let's never sell it again. How do you
deliver that stress?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Like did you personally deliver it or are you putting
it in the post?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The armor guard dropped it off. Yes, there was an
escort to get it to the house.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And do we know who it was for? Like was
it a Christmas present? Who's buying this?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I don't have thoseails.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I don't have those details. But I didn't find him online.
I did my due diligence to make sure it's genuine
and yeah when he went to a person in New
South Wales.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
All right, next up, it's a diamond crusted dildo. That's
the next one that's going to be worth one point
two million dollars. Look, we love Juju obviously Juju is
keeping the lights on here at Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh by the way, before we.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Get out of here, before we're at things up, we've
got to give away one of these AI bad boys
on the show tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Ah right, this is the one.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You want. Go interactive with the handy AI stroker. Let
a partner control it remotely or sink it to content
for lifelike motion, longer stroke, quieter power. Get it at
Juju Jou jou dot comdre you. But if you want
to win one, we're going to give away one tonight,
So jump on kiss dot comdre you and you could.
You could be letting AI int your bedroom quicker than
you think, Anton mate, Thank you for coming on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Thank you for having me appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And on that note, what's the same time flines? When
you're having fun?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
It really is?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do we have some fun?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
On this show? That's us done for you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Another week on Saucy Secrets, but make sure you grab
the podcast on the free iHeart app. Make sure you're
watching the videos on YouTube like subscribe, tell your friends,
tell your family, tell you Nan, we don't care. Just
get on board.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yes or tell us, slide into a DM, tell us
you still it is your secret place and you could
end up on the show.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And we'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Bye.
All right, cheeky one, heads up, Saucy Secrets is about
to start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
This isn't your average radio chat. It has adult themes
and some sexual references. We're diving into real confessions, spicy fantasies,
and some real jaw dropping stories. So if you're easily shocked,
maybe go find a gardening show. But if you're ready
for some fun, a little scandal and absolutely no judgment,
you're in the right safe place.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Real people, real confessions. It's Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm kiss Saucy Secrets. Welcome back to Saucy Secrets. I'm
Sex and Dating columnists Jannah Hawking joining me. It's radio
extraordinary MC, thank you, thank you, sanch I. Now you
love when I say that. And we have a big
show coming up. Just looking at the run sheet, we're
talking lovender marriages, which are so hot right now, we've
(00:51):
got a famous Aussies. Good on.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm concerned about something that's on the run sheet.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I've never come in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I enjoy coming in, I enjoy spending my time with you,
I enjoy doing this show.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But I'm looking at the run sheet.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, I'm actually concerned that my appearance will be judged Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, it is. It is because coming up next, I
am going through the seven things men wear that give
us the biggest ick. You men have had a lot
of say on what we've been wearing. Oh my god,
I wore a shirt and tie on one of the
recent episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Got a lot of dms about that. Then, are no
fence if I put on a shit shirt. I thought
I looked alright. I thought this was okay.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well you'll find out in the next segment. Now, I've
had a lot of men sliding into my dms for years,
telling me what looks good on me, what doesn't look
good on me?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
By a minute? You mean men can be entitled on
the incidet.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's outrage.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Don't believe it has never happened.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But I've also been on a lot of dates with
guys who have turned up in the worst clothes and
we're already off to your back.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I thought you were about to say you've turned up
on dates and the blokes have told you that they
don't like your outfit to your face.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, they just want to get me out of.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The app Oh, don't care what the clothes look as
long as they're on the bedroom flow.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Maybe on the first date. Maybe not. But there was
an article that went viral recently on Daily Mail. One
of my fellow columnists decided to put together eleven things
that women wear that he can't stand, and I was like, really, well,
after years of being told what like you don't like
about us, I've put together a list of stuff that
(02:26):
we don't like men wearing. And it's you know, if
you want to turn up to a date, have your
best foot forward. Maybe you got divorced, you're back on
the market. Here is not what to wear, and you
should be nervous.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I really wish I'd read this article and done my
research before choosing my outfit today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You have broken one, but that's not my first one.
My first one is ill fitting ties. I don't understand
gents like you can repeat wear clothes all the time,
but when it comes to weddings or you know, christenings
or things like that, you always have one tie and
it's from either your school formal, your school.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Clothes, the really big, wide, shiny one that you've had
from t say Taro Cash.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now they do great ties.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, no, they're fine, But I have a theory, right,
And this got a few people upset. In the comment
section when I wrote about this, we women spend hundreds,
if not thousands of dollars on outfits. You can repeat
now I've done a bit of research. You can get
a beautiful wire cell or deal or like a beautiful
European branded tie for at the most five hundred dollars.
(03:34):
We couldn't even get one shoe from these brands for
five hundred dollars. It's that's the only thing you will
have to spend. We need a new dress for every
event we go for for the Gram, you can get away.
I invest in one five hundred dollars tie, and then
you can wear your beautiful Tarot Cash or whatever outfit
and we'll all think you're wearing Gucci because you're wearing
a beautiful Gucci tie. Also, stop putting it down near
(03:58):
your crutch or.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Up to tiant to touch your dick. It's meant to
sort of just sit above your pant right just above.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The belt line.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Perfect, sort out the tie situation. Okay, the next one
you say you're not wearing them, but you are. The
next one is death to skinny jeans.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In my defense, these are slim, not skinny. There's a
difference and it's only because I'm sitting down that my
girthy thighs are wrapping the jeans around my legs.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
No, no, no, they're skinny at here's the reason as well.
And this got me in trouble when I wrote about this. Men,
you either don't have bombs, so go straight from your
back to your legs, yeah, or you do have bombs
and every time so you've got a booth. Don't like
if you squat or sit down in front of us.
We don't want to see what you ate for breakfast.
So death to the skinny jeans.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Lucky you're wearing slim.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The next one I feel like you probably do wear
is the baggy gym shorts.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You're assuming that I go to the gym, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So many men were your jym shawts out And the
first thing that comes to my mind is like low
hanging sweaty balls. All I keep thinking about is just
your balls hanging loose in these ugly dreams. They're pajamas
and you're wearing them out in public. Death to those
right this one, I'm very passionate about the thongs or
the croc situations. I've had two guys turn up to dates.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
In thongs so toky to wear them, like if you're
in the backyard or you're going to the beach, sure, beach.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Fine makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Not even to the pub. They're not good. Also, if
you embellish your crocs.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Straight toed do they call them gibbets? Gibbets the little
things that they steer gibbets or giblets?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I don't know, and may I never not know because
they're horrific straight to jow oh flashy jewelry or like
you know how guys wear all of those bands that
they got from like a lad's trip to Thailand, or
the thick necklaces so gross, so oh oh my god,
you are wearing them, oh, straight to jails straight.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But I even get them from a lad's trip. It's
like tiger eye. There's an evil eye. There's like a
like a nice silver bracelet.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
See?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I would just keep the silver bracelet?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
What did I know?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
The jury is for the women. We don't want you
looking like mister t the next one or cargo shorts
and graphic teas. Okay with those jack black like if
your whole personality is like burst bood drinker in the world,
or you've got those horrific hippie shirts.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I do remember when I was a young man, I
used to wear and I thought it was hilarious and
it said how to pick up chicks and it was
three diagrams. I think I got it from JJ's like
in the late nineties, and it was a diagram of
a person picking up like it like an actual chicken.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh see that joke.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
What a cool guy.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Chuck out your cargo shorts, You're not going through the bush.
Chuck out your graphic teas. That doesn't give you a personality,
just a beautiful linen shirt. And finally the two small
polo shirts. We get that you go to the gym.
We love that you go to the gym, but if
you're showing more cleavage than me, get out, get out.
(07:08):
And also why do men get them where they really
cinch at the arm, Like what is the purpose of them? No,
you're fine, you pass with that, but it just makes
you look like a wenka, like a gym junkie wnker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
We have talked about all kinds of things on the show,
and I've never been more uncomfortable and more nervous in
my life.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Good because now you know how women feel. Joining us
today is a man named Marty, all the way from Phoenix, Arizona. Marty,
what is your saucy secret.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
My saucy secret is I am gay and I have
a wife.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
How does that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How did this happen?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It's called a lauvender marriage.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, they're very hot right now. How does the loving
the marriage work? Because I think I want one.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I think many women do well. A modern day labyrin
marriage is when a gay man and a straight woman
really decide to build a life together. So it's something.
It's about purpose. It's not a cover like it used
to be in the twenties. It was created in Hollywood
as a cover, but everyone is talking about it now.
It's not a secret. It's really just two people who
know they're going to make an incredible team.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Oh I love that because my stepdad had a serious
word with me a little while ago. He sat me down,
he was all very serious and he goes, Jenna, I
think I've discovered why you don't have a boyfriend. And
I said why and he goes, because you just keep
hanging out with gay men, how are you gonna make
any straight ones?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, there's certainly a demographic of women. We call them
fruit flies. This is the gays, and they're usually beautiful
women like yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh thank you. I'm happy to be a fruit fly.
But how does it work in terms of sex and relations? Like,
you've got kids to you?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I do?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I have one daughter?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yes, So does that mean you've slept together in a
marriage sense or was that a turkey base?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
No, it was a marriage sense. So we were in
a legacy marriage I like to call it, for eleven years.
And then I came out again again to her because
I actually came out when we first got together, and
that is a true lavender marriage. And then eleven years
into the marriage, during the whole pandemic, I really started
thinking about things and was like, I need to be
an out gay man. And so we had another tough
(09:31):
conversation and we've spent the last three years kind of
transitioning our marriage, if you will, into a true lavender
marriage today.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So can I ask, and I'll do this as delicately
as I can. How do you scratch the itch that
you're clearly not going to get scratch being in this
lavender marriage?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That is a great question. We have data plans and
so we communicate with each other. We are you know, absolutely,
I don't like to use the word aloud, but we
communicate to each other. We really planned when we went
into this, and again it's been a very long drawn
out thing, if you will. We've really put a lot
of work and effort, counseling therapy into what this marriage
looks like. And so we really planned for it to evolve.
(10:08):
We know that, you know, maybe that person is going
to come along for either one of us at some
point in time, and we want to make sure that
that person obviously fits the dynamic of our family and
they have to love either one of us in order
to do either one of us, if you will. And
I'm going to make sure that any man she's with
is not gay this time.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, that's just being a good that's just being a
good husband, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You've got it. You've got to do that for your wife.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right And are you worried that she will fall in
love with the guy that will want to you know,
move into the house or play step dad or change
the dynamic?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know, I'm not worried about it. It is something
again that we've really planned for. It's something that. You know,
when I look back at when I was in my
legacy marriage, if you will, that was something that I
had a lot of guilt about.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I always felt in some ways like I wasn't a
real man in every way, and even we had an
intimate relationship. We obviously have a child. I just always
knew I wasn't as affectionate and didn't love her in
all those ways like I should. And so at the
end of the day, yes, it will, it will hurt.
That's still my wife. I've been with her for seventeen years.
But I will. I know she will pick a great
(11:17):
man and I will be happy to see her, you know,
get some really, I try.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
To push her out there.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
She always acts like it's a surprise when somebody hits
on her, and I was like, you're you're a bomb bitch,
you know, get it girl.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So yeah, how old is your daughter? And if she's
old enough, what does she know of the Lavender marriage?
What is her understanding? How have you communicated this with her?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
She lives in a house with Mouth of the South here,
who's on social media every day. Yes, she is fully
aware of the Lavender marriage. She is To answer your question,
she is fourteen going on life coach.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I got good good.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
She does know about it when I told her. I
actually told her two years after I came out at
work and after I, you know, came out again to
my wife again. Very thoughtfully planned, appropriately timed.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
All of it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I had a therapist that helped me map all of
this out. And honestly, kids these days, they they don't
look at sexuality and put as much empasit on it
as we do. It was kind of a blip in
the radar for her. She really doesn't give a shit.
She said, she helps. My boyfriend is nice, and then
she kind of laughed when she thought about her mom
having a boyfriend who she actually talked to her therapist
(12:25):
about it, and she was like, my mom, she's not
going to get a boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
But she will.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think I want to love into marriage.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
We're building the framework, the blueprints.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
So here for me on a LAMA list.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I want to find you. They want to they want
to learn more about your lavender marriage.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Can I Why can I do that? Where can we
find you?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
They can follow me on TikTok or Instagram at It's
Mick Marty Fly, or they can go to Lama dot Life,
which is my website landing page. There's a lot more.
There's podcasts about us there, there is blog post on
there and of course the wait list for my lavender
marriage app that's l l M.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
A late will be joining.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well. Look, we wish you the best, good luck in
this current version of your lavender marriage and whatever the
future might hold.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you so much for coming on, Soucy Secrets. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Thank you so much, Love you. Today's guest is one
of Australia's top escorts and she has seen everything, the secrets,
the scandals, the world requests, even a married man who
dropped forty five grand on her. But with over forty
two thousand followers and a reputation for brutal honesty, she's
(13:31):
here to spill what men really get up to behind
closed doors. Please welcome Lilith Lodge.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Hello, guys, what made.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You want to get into escording?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Look, it was kind of a progression. I started out
in I guess the easier elements of sex work. So
I started out as a cam goal and I did
a night industrip club back when I was like nineteen.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
From there, I progressed and did a full year.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
As a dancer, and it kind of got a little
money hungry and I wanted something more, and therefore I
ended up as a full service escort.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I've had a really great experience so far, and I've
learned a lot of things, particularly about men.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, can you tell.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Us some of those things, because you get to see
them at their most vulnerable and their most primal. What's
something that surprised you about the men who do book
your services?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I think the most surprising thing for me was that
a lot of them, it's not just about the sex.
Like when you think of an escort, you think she
spends the entire time or five hour booking or four
hour booking having sex. But for a lot of them,
the emotional connection and having somebody that they can talk
to about literally anything and everything is really important to them.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I think that was quite surprising to me. I've had
a lot of men book me and not even have
sex at all.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Really, I'd be a little bit offended if someone walked
to me.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Is it like when you go to the hairdresser or
the barber for some reason, You're just will open up
to that person because they're completely removed from your friendship circle,
your family see feel comfortable with them.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What kind of stuff you talk about with this bloe?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Absolutely, I think two people being naked laying in a
bed together when I know none of their family, not
like their workplace, nothing like that, no one in their life.
They feel a lot more comfortable opening up to me
about a lot of things. This could be things like,
you know, troubles in their marriage, or you know, traumatic
experiences they've had in life, someone passing away. They will
just trauma dump on me while I'm there, and I'm
(15:22):
all there for it.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, you're kind of like a therapist. Now, you've been
quite open about the fact that a lot of married
men come to see you. I have a theory that
married men tend to go to escorts because it's the
madonna whore theory. Have you heard about this? Okay, So
a lot of men see their wives as a madonna,
(15:45):
someone who's beautiful and who they have nice, sweet, missionary
sex with, but they're too scared to tell them about
their kinks, so they go to someone who they can
pay to try out things that they might be too
nervous to ask their wife. Have you found that?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, I think this is a big part of the
reason why they come and see someone like me.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
A lot of these guys have some sort.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Of unusual thing that they are into and they just
don't feel comfortable asking their wife, or if they do,
she's kind of shut them down about it earlier on
and they've just never mentioned it again.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What are some of the things.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Some of the most.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Unusual would probably be fart requests, which.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm thinking, what can you can you fart on me?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They get they can like they get off on farting.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I'm your forgu Yeah, So I'd say that's probably the
most out there thing that I have done. I have
a couple of clients who have a thing for women
farthing on them. It's a domination sort of thing. They
want it to be like, you know, take that.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Do them, And it is quite unusual.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Because I mean, when are they going to be able
to ask a girlfriend or a wife to fart in
their face?
Speaker 8 (16:52):
It just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
There are some other unusual things I would say, like
pegging or I get a lot of feet guys. That's
actually quite common, but they just don't feel comfortable asking
their girlfriend or their partner for that sort of thing,
because they'll think that it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think pegging is way more common than people think.
I get when I used to run source his secrets
on my Instagram, so many guys well like, I'm into pegging.
I'm into pegging. Do you think it will ever be normalized?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I wish it was, Honestly, it's one of my favorite
things to do. I actually had a scene doing that yesterday,
so it's like fresh in my mind.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I think it's just it's really taboo for them to
talk about, right because a lot of people like, oh,
that's gay.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
You know, if you're into that, you're gay. And I
think it just puts all.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
This stigma around it. But it is quite a common
request for us, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And isn't that where a men's geese spot is up there?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
But yes, okay, so why would they put it in
there if they weren't meant to have anything in there?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Exactly, they must experience it. A friend of mine tried
it the other day with her partner, and she actually
put her hip out because she didn't realize how much
like thrust goes in the stretch.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
She wasn't Limba wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
We've never had to do it, so we don't know
how much effort you guys actually put in.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Bravo, guys, good cardigo. How many married men come in
with the permission of their wives or their wives know
that they're in there with you? Is that something that happens.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Yeah, this does happen. It is quite rare, but it
does happen. But one comes to mind immediately. He was
a guy who booked me for an hour, walked into
my apartment, gives me the money, and he's.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Talking to me. He's like, my wife knows that i'm here.
She actually booked you, and I didn't want to see you.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
You're not my type, but she said that you were
the one that she wanted me to see. So she
picked me out and I asked him a few questions.
I was like, oh, this is interesting. I haven't heard
about this before. And he's like, yeah, I'm allowed four
a year, one per quarter for one hour each. I
can't do one once because I'll get too attached.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh my god. So wait, is that because she doesn't
want to have sex with him or because she wants
him to have variety?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:50):
She doesn't have sex with him, That's what he said.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So we only get sex four times a year. That's
soo sad.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I wonder what the criteria was when she was
selecting the right person for him. Clearly it was you know,
the best of the best, and that's why you were
chosen naturally obviously.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Now, what's the most common insecurity clients have when they
come to see you? Like, is there anything that stands
out that they're a bit insecure about?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I feel like the most common one I encounter is
the size of their dick.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I don't know what it is a man, but I
think it stems from.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Watching porn and they're seeing the extreme, like the monster
Cox is what they're seeing, and they're thinking that is
what's considered large.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
And a lot of them are regular or large.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Sizing condoms coming to see me and being like, oh,
I know it's small, and I'm like, babe, you're actually
a large.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Sizing condoms like, this is not small.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I've even had someone who was a supermax, which is
the biggest size of condom that we have here in Australia,
and he's like, oh, yeah, I know, it's regular sizing, Like, Babe,
that thing is huge.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Can you please help settle the debate because I always say,
women don't want really big ones. We just want to
normal size one and we just want you to know
how to use it. Do you find that because it
does always start a debate whenever I say that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I'm not really interested in the really big ones, like
especially super mats. They can be really painful, especially if
they're by rough and they don't build you up properly.
Like that can be a painful experience, especially for women
who don't do my job and they're not super experienced
with all of that. You know, it can be a lot.
You need a lot of loop to get the thing
in there. I think a regular even a slim, like
(20:23):
a slightly smaller one that's like you think they need
to be about three inches long really to hit the
right spot, So three inches and above they can still
make you come.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh thank god you said that, because no one ever
believes me. I'm like, it's true. If we have to
do breathing exercises to sleep with you, we don't want
any part of it. And what are you thinking about,
like when you're having sex with them, are you like
in the moment, are you enjoying it, because I spoke
to an escort a few years ago and she said
(20:52):
that she was just mentally going through her shopping list, like, Oh,
I've got to go pick up the steak before I
go and pick up the kids after school. What are
you thinking about when you're having sex with these men?
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
I can imagine if I was often like Dreamland and
they're like dirty talking to me and I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
I would never get repeat business.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
They'd be like, oh, yeah, do you like that? And
I'd be like thinking about my shopping list. No, I'm
very present with my clients. I can understand that a
lot of girls may just switch off. I feel like
at my price point that I'm charging and all that
sort of thing, I really need to be on it
and I need to be super present or else I'm
not going to get any work and I'm not going
to get repeat clientele. So for me, I'm very much
in the moment and focusing on what's happening and trying
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to figure out are they enjoying that?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Do I need to slow down? Do I need to
speed up?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
You know that's kind of more where my brain is
very much in it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Is it sometimes really hard to be in that moment
because I'm assuming sometimes you've got clients that come in
for one of a bit of terms or a bit
gross and they are just the furthest thing from the
type of person you want to get intimate with. Is
it sometimes really difficult.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
To do your job?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
To me?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Not really.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
And the funny thing is that, you know, people always
think these guys are super repulsive that come and see us.
Some of the most attractive men that I have slept
with in my life. With clients as well, we get
a really mixed bag. You know, you never know what's
going to walk in the door. But what I've actually
found is a lot of those guys who were by
society standards unattractive are the best ones in bed.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
That's what I've experienced so far.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So a lot of the time, those guys that you're like, oh,
I don't know if I can sleep with them, they
will be the ones that know what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
It's really bizarre secret power.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Maybe because they've got to put in extra work, they
don't have the pretty privilege. A final question, it is
a big job what you do, and you know you
are part therapist, part you know, and there's a lot
of physical work that does go into it. How do
you decompress after a session? Like what do you do
to kind of ground yourself.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
When I was new in the industry, I feel like
the decompression thing was a big part of it. You know,
you'd finish the booking and you kind of stand there
for a second and just, I guess, dissociate, or maybe
sit on the ground in the shower, or get yourself
in the nice meal or something like that, put your
woodie on and sit there.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
But after that first.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Year, I feel like I don't really even do that anymore.
You know, I'll be heading to the shops the second
they leave. I'll be getting changed and put my shoes
on and heading to the shopping because and I are like,
I don't really feel the need to do that. But
I think for a lot of workers it's really important
having that separation between who they are and who they
are for work. You know, the real person and a
character that they play. But as those two things kind
of merge over time, I don't feel the need to
(23:27):
super decompress, but I think the go to for most
workers is sitting on the floor of the shower and
just like rocking or like having the water hit their skin.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
I don't know. I hear them talk about it all
the time.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Sorry, I know I keep saying final one, but I
just have one more questions on what would be your
advice for anyone thinking of getting into the business. I
know a lot of people think it's quick, easy money,
But what would be your advice now that you've been
in it for a little while.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Look, I would say, make sure you're doing your research
before you do it. It's easy enough to see people
like myself included doing mone accounts on social media or
talking about these designer bags and goods that we got,
But you need to understand the reality of it too,
and really think long and hard about it.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
This industry isn't all glamorous, like horrible things do happen
to us on the job.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
It's not always easy, and I think you need to
really think and consider will I be able to handle
it when something goes wrong? Will I be able to
stand up for myself and say, hey, no, that's not okay?
Or will you kind of flounder and allow things to
happen to you. It's a lot harder than it looks
when you're watching it on social media and make sure
that you really think about the way it's going to
(24:34):
impact the rest of your life, because you know, especially
if you're going to be face out and really outspoken
like myself, it's going to affect your career later on
if you decide you want to be an engineer or
work in it or work in a corporate office.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
It's going to follow you forever.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, gosh, that's good advice, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If people want to inquire, they want to book your services,
where do they go?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
How do they do it?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The best website is always Scarlet Blue, which is an
escorting directory here in Australia. It's probably the best one.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And where can we find you on the socials if
we just want to hear your stories?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
My TikTok's probably my best one. So I have two
different tiktoks, a lilith Lodge three point zero and lylith
Lodge Secret, and my main Instagram account is Lilith Underscore
Lodge and I post almost story times and things like
that on there.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, thank you so much for joining us on Saucy
Secrets and good luck with the future.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Fascinating.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Thank you so much. For having me.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We have a saucy secret that's quite left of field.
It's not something I've heard of before, but it's got
me intrigued. So joining us on the phone tonight is
someone who's preferring to go by anonymous. We won't be
outing them, but we want to hear everything they have
to say. Welcome to the show, Anonymous.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Hi there here you guys going good?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Thank you? Now, tell us what's your saucy secret.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
My sourcey secret is that I just attended a four
day long festival celebrating alternative relationships.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now it's a festival. Now when you say alternative, what
does alternative exactly mean?
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Well, alternative predominantly talks about relationships that are not monogamous.
So we live in a society that predominantly celebrates monogamy,
the relationship between two people only. But alternative relationships can
be a combination of different types of relationships. But the
great thing about this particular event is called far or
(26:33):
Festival of Alternative Relationships. It celebrates not just the alternative
elements of these relationships, but also celebrates connection as a whole.
There's a whole different ways that we connect with one
another's human beings, and this allows us to connect on
deeper levels, more intimate levels, just with the people around us,
not necessarily with our partners, but even just as friends
(26:54):
and as and as love as well. It's a very
broad way of celebrating connection.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To the normal person. That might just sound like a
festival that's just a giant boink fest. Is there a
lot of sex going on at this festival?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Yeah, look, undeniably, Yes, absolutely, that is definitely part of
the highlight. On the Saturday night, there is a mandatory
workshop that everyone has to attend and it's about consent,
it's about communication, and there's multiple elements that you can join.
Three parts of it, predominantly in that space there was
(27:32):
the King Space, which was sponsored by Velvet Roade and
Our Secret Spot. And then which was you know, to
do with a whole bunch of King spaces that you've
got like impact play or whatever you've got. The Temple Space,
which was run by White Bikini and Charlotte, which is
about an escalation from getting to know people into a
(27:53):
getting into your body, getting into a movement and breast
and feeling into more of an organic sex environment. And
then lastly you had the Play space, which is essentially
a bunch of tents ready to rock and roll with
plenty of hands, you know, hand wash and condons and
beds ready to rock and roll for people that just
want to jump right in.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So this festival is an open space where people can
actively go up to someone and say, I find you
really attractive. I'd like to get you, get to know
you better, perhaps on a more intimate level. So it's
just opening up those kind of conversations.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Are you are you in a relationship anonymous?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Did you go to this festival with a partner or
just a single dude and just went in there with
an open wine to see what waited for you.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I went single this time, but I have partners that
have people that I've taken on dates that were there
with their other boyfriends I've taken. I was there with
other people that have already gone on dates who ended up.
We had a spark, but we just ended up going
on dates instead of being friends. And that was a
really great way to engage with people.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Are people engaging in front of other people? Like do
you go off to private rooms or is is it
pretty open?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
It's look so people aren't really like especially if it's
broad daylight and like in the middle of the tent,
people are going to be able to either go to
their own tent or go to their own spaces, because
there has to be a degree of like are we
function Like it's going to be odd if people are
just like walking around just railing everywhere, but it still
has there's no explicit rule against it. But it's like
people generally respect the fact that it's like they're not
(29:26):
going to in the bathrooms, they're not going to in
like in like the cuddle puddle tents. They're just going
to like, you've got spaces to do it where it
makes more sense feel that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And I'm just looking at some of the workshops that
are on offer at this event, and you've got sound Healing,
Lovely Yep, how to develop lap dance experience, massage etiquette.
And then there's conscious sugar dating. What is conscious sugar dating?
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah, Conscious sugar dating was pretty interesting. That was explaining
how there were some sugar daddies that were basically asking
for the girlfriend experience because they've got the money and
they just generally don't have the time. General will find
(30:11):
like older single men that are looking for a younger
date to be able to spoil and to engage in
an intimate relationship, or to discuss elements where it is
mostly the tonic people that wouldn't normally be in your life.
You can bridge that gap with money.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Anonymous, thank you so much for telling us all about
the far festival. It sounds like a wild couple of
days and I'm glad you had a good time and
we appreciate you coming on Sucy Secrets.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
No, it's all.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Welcome, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Now, I'm very passionate about my sex toys. I have
tried all of them pretty much, but they are expanding,
and they're expanding.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Rapidly, becoming more common. You know, the taboo is gone.
It's a completely normal thing to have wherever you keep
it in your bedroom.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yes, and for those of us who have been single
for quite a long time, there are filling boyfriends. But
where is a new one. We've actually got it on
the show today. It's called the handy interactive stroker.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We were looking at the catalog that the products that
you can get from Juju and this one we went wha.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It stumped us, whoa? We thought, Okay, we've gone very
modern age now, so we need someone to come on
and tell us how it actually works in this world
of AI. So joining us today is Anton who's the
founder and managing director of Juju, my favorite sex toy company,
and he's going to explain what the heck is a
handy interactive stroker and why do all men need it?
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
It is a piece of tech which is absolutely incredible.
It's for penisis. It's an AI stroker which connects to
VA and synchronize it with the actually sitting on screen.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So basically, if you're watching porn, you can sink it
to the pawn. So it like so the stroker is
working as if you're the one having sex. Is that right?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'm worried that, like us women are going to be
out of a job. You would be like having a
really good time to your favorite porn stuff. What else
is coming up in terms of AI and sex toys,
Like what are they working on at the moment? What
else are you selling?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
At this stage? They're really focusing on the couples elements
of these toys. So this product, yes, you can enjoy
it as a solo session, but it's designed more in
terms of let's say you're in a long business relationship,
your significant other is across the world. They can control
it through their app, So it's kind of bridging relationships together.
(32:43):
So even though you're a part, you're still together, you
can still have fun together. And that's kind of where
the world within this AI sex take is heading. So
not so much the AI.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Robots.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
That's more about bridging couples together and the experiences together,
and of course, you know, giving the painters are owned
as a an awesome experience in the process. Because the
whole sex of industry throughout the history has always been
focused on female pleasure, So now male pleasures really come
out and men are realized, well, hang on a second,
(33:17):
we want something unique and new and different as well.
And that's why there's a whole boom in male sex tech.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
And it's so interesting because I got shamed the other
day and I really had to check myself because I
was hosting like a tell me a saucy secret thing
on my Instagram and this guy was like, I love cockages,
and I was sorry, what hang on here? What a cockage?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
What is a cockcage?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That was my That was My first reaction and my
first interaction, which I had to check myself, was I went, ill,
a cockage. That's gross, And then I googled it and
it's like where men they can actually put their.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Cocks in a cage in a cage.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And so the women tease them and they can't do
anything about it, and it's about longevity. And I kind
of had a bit of attitude around it and went
off on my Instagram, and then all these guys came
from me and they're like, wait, you talk about vibrators
and dialdos all the time. Why are you shaming us?
And I really had to step back and go, oh,
I was shaming you, and that's not really fair because
(34:13):
I would get upset at anyone for shaming me for
talking about dialdo's a vibrators exactly. So I'm like, okay,
so it is. We do have to get rid of
the taboo because there is all this amazing stuff for men.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Now now while we've while we've got you on the show,
there are rumors that have gone around that you have
once sold a dildo that's worth more than a lot
of people would.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Spend on their cars. Is this true? What was this dildo?
Made of and where did it end up?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yes, so I was actually really shocked when I made
this sell in twenty twenty two and or it was
placed on the website for a twenty four parent old
player vibrator. Wow, you're a buyer in New South Wales
and it's called Leloes And to be honest, till that day,
(35:05):
like still still now I think about it, and it
caused us so much stress because we were so worried
that it was like whether io it was a genuine
order or not. I think one it was a fifteen
thousand dollars chargeback.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yes, that's a lot of.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
A lot of stress.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
After that one sale. My suppliers, the brands, everyone tells us,
let's let's let's never sell it again. How do you
deliver that stress?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Like did you personally deliver it or are you putting
it in the post?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The armor guard dropped it off. Yes, there was an
escort to get it to the house.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And do we know who it was for? Like was
it a Christmas present? Who's buying this?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I don't have thoseails.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I don't have those details. But I didn't find him online.
I did my due diligence to make sure it's genuine
and yeah when he went to a person in New
South Wales.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
All right, next up, it's a diamond crusted dildo. That's
the next one that's going to be worth one point
two million dollars. Look, we love Juju obviously Juju is
keeping the lights on here at Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh by the way, before we.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Get out of here, before we're at things up, we've
got to give away one of these AI bad boys
on the show tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Ah right, this is the one.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You want. Go interactive with the handy AI stroker. Let
a partner control it remotely or sink it to content
for lifelike motion, longer stroke, quieter power. Get it at
Juju Jou jou dot comdre you. But if you want
to win one, we're going to give away one tonight,
So jump on kiss dot comdre you and you could.
You could be letting AI int your bedroom quicker than
you think, Anton mate, Thank you for coming on Saucy Secrets.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Thank you for having me appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And on that note, what's the same time flines? When
you're having fun?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
It really is?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do we have some fun?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
On this show? That's us done for you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Another week on Saucy Secrets, but make sure you grab
the podcast on the free iHeart app. Make sure you're
watching the videos on YouTube like subscribe, tell your friends,
tell your family, tell you Nan, we don't care. Just
get on board.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yes or tell us, slide into a DM, tell us
you still it is your secret place and you could
end up on the show.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And we'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Bye.
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