October 29, 2025 • 5 mins
Sunrise is joined by WA Opposition Leader Basil Zempilas and Sunshine Coast Mayor Rosanna Natoli to discuss Queensland exam bungle and an 'unrealistic' restaurant sign.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now Queensland's Ancient History exam bungle has extended to nine
schools now with almost one hundred and fifty year twelve
students taught all year long about Roman emperor Augustus when
they should have learned about Julius Caesar. After only a
day's notice to study the correct topic, students were given
the choice to sit the exam or not. One student
(00:22):
who's an aspiring doctor, says he was heartbroken by the error,
fearing it could actually ruin his dream of studying medicine.
For their take, let's bring in wa Opposition leader Basil
Zemplus and Sunshine Coast Mayor Rosanna Natoli Basil. Obviously a
full investigation has been ordered by the minister, but right now,
(00:42):
how worried should the kids be about this impacting their future.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a huge bungle, isn't it. I mean you've got
a feel for kids. Obviously at this time of the year,
studying their ATAR exams, getting ready, it's a nervous time
for them. This will only add the nervousness. I reckon
other kids around Australia will hear this. I'm not suggesting
it's gone wrong anywhere else, but it is a huge bungle.
I mean, clearly, if the kids are taught a certain curriculum,
in this case, they're learning about Augustus rather than Julius Caesar,
(01:08):
and then it comes time to write about it in
the exam, the questions wrong, It doesn't match up. Not
what you've learned, a massive bungle. And the young man
you spoke about, whose story was outlined in the Courier
mail hopes to study medicine and you know half a point.
A point can make all of the difference. And if
you've learnt the wrong stuff before the exam and then
the exam is testing you on something else. So there
(01:29):
needs to be I think, a way for those kids
captured by this era to be able to overcome it,
whether their marks are waited or they get to sit
it later or something else. But they shouldn't have to
stand on that result given the bungle wasn't theirs?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, apparently this was the old curriculum.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Rosanna, you're right there in Queensland knowing how families are suffering.
And email was sent last year. The schools didn't get
it or something. But they need to fix this right
now for the students, don't they.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Absolutely, we can't have our students needing to absolutely conquer
Rome just about before they can even get the right
topic for the exam. So that is obviously an error.
It's concerning that it was nine schools. It shows that
it wasn't just one school or two schools, where you
might think, oh, perhaps the school was to blame. This
(02:19):
shows that there's something more fundamentally at play, and so
that's a concern. But just imagine for those students the
panic that would have come in finding out a day
before that you've studied the wrong Emperor. That's what we
should be trying to support these students at this time
when they already are under such enormous pressure.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I hope the department doesn't make them jump through
hoopes over something that they had nothing to do with,
you know. I think they should sort it out so
they're not disadvantage.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sure, the best.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Those kids should be able to get by on their
term mark. I think that or the year mark, rather
than the exam waiting, which clearly has knocked them about.
They should be able to do it that way rather
than have to cram again for another exam. I think
that's the best way they should do it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Giving them the choice to sit it or not. Even
that is putting something along them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't know. It just seems very unfair of this GYD.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's a really tricky situation because how do you wait
an earlier term grade. They might not be happy with
that either, particularly when we're talking about those students where
half a point will make a difference.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I came moving on a restaurants sign telling families children
are required to be seated at all times has caused
fierce online debate. Now at Ozzie Mum shared this video
from the lagoon of Blue Restaurant in Port Stephens, calling
the instruction unrealistic because children can be unpredictable. But many
in the comments hit back, saying if you can't keep
you can't seated.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Don't take them out? Bas where do you sit?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Are they allowed to go to the bathroom or are
they ever allowed to leave? I mean what if they
drop their napkin, blows away and they want to get.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Up and pick it up. I think they mean that
and they never allowed.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
To leave that and set Look, I think as always
as a balance with these things, isn't it kids need
to sort of be under control to a degree when
they're at restaurants in formal settings like that. But also
I think the restaurant owners need to understand there's a
certain tolerance that needs to be made allowable with kids.
They can't all sit still throughout an entire meal. Bitter
give and take, bitter balance. I think the signs a
(04:18):
tiny bit extreme. The middle ground would be better.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I reckon feels like they've had some incidents because if
you're the waiters Roxanna, and you've got kids around your
feet and you're carrying heavy stuff or hot stuff or glasses,
you might support this sign.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think what we're talking about here is the words
at all times if the rest of it is perfectly fine.
I think they might have just said, you know, as
long as you can, as much as you can, please try.
I think it is the fact at all times we're
not going to be able to keep children in their
seats at all times. They need to be able to
move around to go to the bathroom or whatever. But
(04:53):
we do need to keep it safe. Nobody wants kids
climbing all over the tables or the chairs or running about. Nobody,
not even the other customers, potentially want kids running about
or dancing in the aisle, so you know, it's safety.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's about that.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Comfort in the restaurant, but it's also about being sensible.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I hate to say. We're just about out of that
stage in our family. That's what the iPads are for.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, Okay, now controversial, No, we want conversation at the
table baths.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, give them some, give them some artwork, coloring, coloring.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
A conversation.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yes, you know if you're a parents, is that signed
too harsh?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Where do you use that tiny bit toot like drop?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
See you next week.
Now Queensland's Ancient History exam bungle has extended to nine
schools now with almost one hundred and fifty year twelve
students taught all year long about Roman emperor Augustus when
they should have learned about Julius Caesar. After only a
day's notice to study the correct topic, students were given
the choice to sit the exam or not. One student
(00:22):
who's an aspiring doctor, says he was heartbroken by the error,
fearing it could actually ruin his dream of studying medicine.
For their take, let's bring in wa Opposition leader Basil
Zemplus and Sunshine Coast Mayor Rosanna Natoli Basil. Obviously a
full investigation has been ordered by the minister, but right now,
(00:42):
how worried should the kids be about this impacting their future.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a huge bungle, isn't it. I mean you've got
a feel for kids. Obviously at this time of the year,
studying their ATAR exams, getting ready, it's a nervous time
for them. This will only add the nervousness. I reckon
other kids around Australia will hear this. I'm not suggesting
it's gone wrong anywhere else, but it is a huge bungle.
I mean, clearly, if the kids are taught a certain curriculum,
in this case, they're learning about Augustus rather than Julius Caesar,
(01:08):
and then it comes time to write about it in
the exam, the questions wrong, It doesn't match up. Not
what you've learned, a massive bungle. And the young man
you spoke about, whose story was outlined in the Courier
mail hopes to study medicine and you know half a point.
A point can make all of the difference. And if
you've learnt the wrong stuff before the exam and then
the exam is testing you on something else. So there
(01:29):
needs to be I think, a way for those kids
captured by this era to be able to overcome it,
whether their marks are waited or they get to sit
it later or something else. But they shouldn't have to
stand on that result given the bungle wasn't theirs?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, apparently this was the old curriculum.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Rosanna, you're right there in Queensland knowing how families are suffering.
And email was sent last year. The schools didn't get
it or something. But they need to fix this right
now for the students, don't they.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Absolutely, we can't have our students needing to absolutely conquer
Rome just about before they can even get the right
topic for the exam. So that is obviously an error.
It's concerning that it was nine schools. It shows that
it wasn't just one school or two schools, where you
might think, oh, perhaps the school was to blame. This
(02:19):
shows that there's something more fundamentally at play, and so
that's a concern. But just imagine for those students the
panic that would have come in finding out a day
before that you've studied the wrong Emperor. That's what we
should be trying to support these students at this time
when they already are under such enormous pressure.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I hope the department doesn't make them jump through
hoopes over something that they had nothing to do with,
you know. I think they should sort it out so
they're not disadvantage.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sure, the best.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Those kids should be able to get by on their
term mark. I think that or the year mark, rather
than the exam waiting, which clearly has knocked them about.
They should be able to do it that way rather
than have to cram again for another exam. I think
that's the best way they should do it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Giving them the choice to sit it or not. Even
that is putting something along them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I don't know. It just seems very unfair of this GYD.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's a really tricky situation because how do you wait
an earlier term grade. They might not be happy with
that either, particularly when we're talking about those students where
half a point will make a difference.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I came moving on a restaurants sign telling families children
are required to be seated at all times has caused
fierce online debate. Now at Ozzie Mum shared this video
from the lagoon of Blue Restaurant in Port Stephens, calling
the instruction unrealistic because children can be unpredictable. But many
in the comments hit back, saying if you can't keep
you can't seated.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Don't take them out? Bas where do you sit?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Are they allowed to go to the bathroom or are
they ever allowed to leave? I mean what if they
drop their napkin, blows away and they want to get.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Up and pick it up. I think they mean that
and they never allowed.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
To leave that and set Look, I think as always
as a balance with these things, isn't it kids need
to sort of be under control to a degree when
they're at restaurants in formal settings like that. But also
I think the restaurant owners need to understand there's a
certain tolerance that needs to be made allowable with kids.
They can't all sit still throughout an entire meal. Bitter
give and take, bitter balance. I think the signs a
(04:18):
tiny bit extreme. The middle ground would be better.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I reckon feels like they've had some incidents because if
you're the waiters Roxanna, and you've got kids around your
feet and you're carrying heavy stuff or hot stuff or glasses,
you might support this sign.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think what we're talking about here is the words
at all times if the rest of it is perfectly fine.
I think they might have just said, you know, as
long as you can, as much as you can, please try.
I think it is the fact at all times we're
not going to be able to keep children in their
seats at all times. They need to be able to
move around to go to the bathroom or whatever. But
(04:53):
we do need to keep it safe. Nobody wants kids
climbing all over the tables or the chairs or running about. Nobody,
not even the other customers, potentially want kids running about
or dancing in the aisle, so you know, it's safety.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's about that.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Comfort in the restaurant, but it's also about being sensible.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I hate to say. We're just about out of that
stage in our family. That's what the iPads are for.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, Okay, now controversial, No, we want conversation at the
table baths.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, give them some, give them some artwork, coloring, coloring.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
A conversation.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yes, you know if you're a parents, is that signed
too harsh?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Where do you use that tiny bit toot like drop?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
See you next week.
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