Back in the kitchen mum

• Shoulders for swimming
• What's going on with sharks
• Happy parents
• The Obamas of Jamaica 
• Text from mum/dad

@thebuckuppodcast

@katelangbroek

@nathvalvo 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Imagine, if you will, that you are in a place
of great beauty. Some teenage boys walk past you, they
yell out, they bitch tits. The world you see is
a place of paradox of beauty and cruelty. It will

(00:26):
cut you off with the knees, then gift.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You a pair of easies.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
And that, my friends, is why you always always need.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
A buck up. I don't know the swim. Oh yes,
they don't do that with their hands though. Hello Kateline
Broke Night Valve. Can I tell you something that would?

(01:01):
I think, surprise you? I can swim.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Why would that?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't look like someone that can swim.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think, of course you would swim.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Can you swim?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah? I can swim because I've got the Dutch.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Shoulder butterfly, the hard one.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You're very hard, but you can do it with those shoulders.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
You'd be gliding through the air. You jump out of
the pool.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, now I think now, I think, now, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Do I go too far?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I think you've gone a little too far with the
broadness of my shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't think you have broad shoulders at all.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What you thought that? I would you kicked it off,
leap out of the pool.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
With my ability to butterfly, with my giant I think
masculine shoulders, with the subtext of.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That your shoulders are so big on a drug test.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
You remember all the scandal with the Chinese.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Chinese team walked on out and everyone thought, or
something's going on there, something's going on there.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Laughing in the background.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Oh my goodness, someone who no one would ever suspect.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is performance enhancing drugs due to her performance.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But we got there.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
As we know, it's the world's greatest producer, Sasha French. You, no,
she's not. She's not a swim that's not swimming. Even
my dog can dog paddle.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's named It's odd, yeah, that you can't swim, more
so that you would know that you cannot swim, so
you would go out of your way to make sure
you knew how to swim. Surprises.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't have to learn to swim like Australians. But
you know, this is an interesting thing about immigrants. As
my parents were.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Gather around everybody Kate's talking about immigration.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
That they neither my dad from Holland or my mum
Jamaican American can swim.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
And yet where did I learn to swim in.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
The treacherous, violent, huge Hawaiian like waves of the spit
on the Gold Coast, an unpatrolled beach with flags, your.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Raw dog and flags. Then where our parents, My parents
took me. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Anyway, Sasha, because she's a New Zealander, she didn't need
to swim.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
A core memory of most Australian students one you're older
is going to the pool fully clothed, and you all
had to jump into the pool first, you had to
tread water for as long as you possibly could fully
clothed is on jeans, on t shirt on Did you

(04:02):
ever do that in New Zealand? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Treading water, Yeah, treading water. It's a metaphors for life.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And then.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Also and then you drown.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
There is clips that make me feel very uncomfortable when
there's that brutal way where they get the one year
old and.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
And go work.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, and the baby learns how to flip over and
for like the Nirvana cover, Yes, that does not make
me feel comfortable. I have never watched one of those videos.
In four this is cool, but.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
What's the thing.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
A lot of what people require to help them survive
takes a certain toughness and roughness of handling.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
That means in the studio again.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Soft handed, in a city latte, here we go.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Don't feel constable with it, and in fact it's to
the detriment of ours.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's so right, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like a lot of survival.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Is also very too many shark attacks Australia. Oh my
madness out of it sharks. I don't like this. I'm
already a nervous swimmer out there.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yesler not safe anywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
And now I don't like this. You know what someone
that doesn't like sharks, Kate, I'm always thinking about the
great White. Now I've got to think about bull sharks.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, yes, this is the new one. Hammerhead, the Hammerhead,
the Gray Nurse. Too many the ironically named grayners.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Doing some TV gos, Yes, of course, always do we
have to enter a kind of sun?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, there is a new reality TV show, yes, already
films where they get celebrities film with sharks. Because of
everything going on, they delay.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh yeah, they can't show it.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
They can't show them. That's just they can't be like,
look at these degrade celebrities swimming with sharks.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
But also at some point I'll say yes to it
next year.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Of course, at some point then we also have to
have a conversation about what we're going to do about
the sharks.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
But you can't have the conversation because.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Which really doesn't provide anyone with any sort of I
don't understand.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
The thing about the nets, cake. We maybe should have
looked into this before we had this.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
They took them down.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
People are anti net and I'm like, why are you
anting net? Get the net up.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
They took the nets down.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
They took the nets down because it kills too many
other animals. I mean, fair enough, other sea life gets
full of animals, too many, too many, it's overrun, too
many things in the ocean. I've always said that way
too many things.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, but that's like on the land. On the land,
Look how we have to find for ourselves.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Do you remember years ago where supermarkets and everywhere you
looked with pushing kangaroo down our throats because they were
a problem and everyone was shooting them.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is that they were trying to get people to eat.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Them, Yes, because they were trying to deal with how
many there were the farmers killing them. I don't think
that is is disgusting.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, I don't like kang And also, you know what
I like in my meat. I like it to be
as Sasha French would say, I like it.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
To be fitty.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Say that again, fetty, like.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
A nice and fetty. I like it marbled with lots
of fit. And you know what we know about the kangaroo.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Kangaroos are lean.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Nothing but lean, just lean. And while we're on it, yes, rabbit,
oh no, never go and get yeah, well they do,
that's rabbit. All they do. Apparently all they do. They do,
even in the jungle, absolutely get rabbed diving to death.
One night we won dinner and it was rabbit. And

(07:54):
even then we were like.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Really, well, what did it tastes like?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Don't say chicken chicken at all. I wish it taste
a lot of chicken.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Tastes like gaming, very gamey meats. Notice someone's very quiet.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
In the courne mate with a gun over there. Oh,
I've seen the photo. I've seen the photo.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
She's like, she's.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Want of Trump's kids next to an elephant head.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Or a famous Australian cricketer.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Where was that?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh yeah, oh no, we can't even get.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
No another one cricketer Gilley.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
McGrath went over and killed animals.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah for fun. The only animals I want killed for
finer ones in the ocean. Well, don't shoot them.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
If it's going to be at some point survival of
the fittest.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
At this point the sharks are having too much. Say
okay except in a fish and chip shop.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
But it's just it's terrible. You can't swim, and ninety
percent of Australians live on the fringes of this vast continent.
You have to be able to go in the water.
You know what.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
It reminded me of when I was in the Northern Territory,
which is quite amazing. Which is also this will thrill
you as someone with a heritage interest in in Big Brother,
that I was up there for Marty and Jess's wedding.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh my god, it's one of my favorite things about you,
is that little tidbit. It's Marty and Jess.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Anyway, So the Northern Territory like so hot, it's really hot.
Cannot swim anywhere up there because of crocodiles. So the
kids up there are routinely attacked by crocodiles because you
can't put a kid in one hundred percent humidity and
thirty degrees and then tell them.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
They can't swing the same Darwin's the same. There's even
that a lake in the middle of the city, and
you can't swim in that. They don't even keep the
crocodiles out of the lake.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Why would you bother?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And I just thought, what do you think? I think
that's I just thought it's so. I don't know what
the term is, but it's cultural.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
It's a cultural superiority because that would not happen anywhere
else in.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
The rest of the country. It's like, oh, no, we've
got to protect the crocs up here. Why how many
crocs do you need either here? First, there's too.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Many, too many, actually too many, too many crops.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think I'm aligned with Bob Cattery.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I'm sorry, but my new friend, my new friend Robert
wouldn't be like we wouldn't like this, but he must
also he's got plenty of places to swim he does.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, this is what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
People with bright lights of Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
And he's extraordinary. But the thing is the people, the
people who have the privilege of swimming are the people
who are making the rules for the people who don't
have the privileges swimming, and when those people make decisions
for the world, it's never good.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Might I say, look at COVID, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
We went from sharks to COVID. That's forrad She actually
cooked you up there so the wrong sound effect, but that's.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, No, it was cooking to cook, total cookery.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know what annoys me about going on the jungle
and out of all the fears I'm facing and everything
that I have done on this programs a lot. The
first question anyone, no matter of age or sex, asks
what's rob Erwin? Like?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Everyone is utterly besotted by Robert Irwin at the moment,
and a fair enough.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Do you know what?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
The only reason that surprises me is because I would think,
and very few people in showbiz that I would believe
this of to be honest, I would believe he is
exactly as he presents.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
One million percent. Even here's some set goss even nicer
if you can believe it. And Julia also amazing at
her job watching them in action, and you are in
the middle.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Of Oh when Terry's always there, watch.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Cherry's there, got to meet Terry's Terry's there, She got
a little watched a nice air conditioned tent watching me
get tortured, good one. But the flap operation is but
is she.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Watching from behind plastic? There's something going on through a
FuG of condensation.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Everyone looks more comfortable than we are. Let me just
say that, but how.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Does she seriously, how don't have air con?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
You know, we're blindfolded a lot. It's so here little tidbit.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
From when they transport you, from when we.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Get transported to go do trials or get moved around.
It is so intense that we are blindfolded, to the
point that we have to hold hands with the producer
to walk us to a car. You get in the car,
it's completely blacked out. The windows are blacked out. There's
material on the front so you can't see the front.
Driver blindfold it the whole time. They take the blindfold

(13:03):
off minutes before you start the trial. Wow, that's insane.
But watching rob in action, yes, and Julie, to be honest,
it's quite yeah, but well you know, it's quite something.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
But we know what to expect from Julia. We've seen
it for a long time, where he's a constant new revelation.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I thought he was older than he was everyone does
watching how good he is. He's twenty two.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I would have said thirty Little Dark thirty or something, but.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Everyone's everyone is absolutely besided by Robbie Roman. He's everyone
is very interested and he's just cut through. What do
you reckon he's going to do after dancing? I think
he's my I reckon a movie's.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Coming after dancing.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's what the stars are he won? Yeah, as in
now he's profile so big now right in America, there's
going to be a like a Crocodile Dundee remake starring him.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh my goodness, I guess genius a good guest, don't
you think?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, But when you watch him, when you watch him
do all the skits with Julia, who's already a known
actress and a respected comedy actress, he's got it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Oh no, he's got the comedy goods.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
And you know, I.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Think interestingly, when someone new comes on the scene, and
particularly when they're a NEPO, people kind of you first
thought is, oh, they're not going to be any good.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
He has at.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Every turn proven people to be wrong and doesn't even
seem to be affected by that sort of you know whatever.
But across a myriad of there's a thing I do
and he runs the zoo.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
This is next week, tell me something. That's the thing
that I had to do. And he was just off camera,
went out of his way to make sure I was
okay when you're in the laundry. Wasn't no, no, no, no.
It's to do with an animal.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And the animal, well, okay, all right, an animal.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It was very It was very kind.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Was it a water animal or a land animal?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Both? It's a both crocodiles. See, you'll see. But he
was very kind. He didn't have to do what he
did with me, and it was ever won't make the
show because it was off camera and it was very kind.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't want to have you on this show.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Okay, he's at the end of that sent.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I teased by you, and you know what.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
The buckwhits, the buckets, the back knuckles, the buckstickles, the buccloose.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
The buck and Dando's.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
The real reason I go we can, I say. The
real reason is I have no memory of what happened
in mod order. And if I go home tonight, if
I go home tomorrow, if it was already maybe it
was yesterday, it's I.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Forget me neither and we all will forget. Oh there
we go anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I can't remember, but we've got to give them money
that guarantee.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Please please please do all right.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'll give you some feedback and then we'll pay the
money back guarantee. Kenny. Oh that in the text from mom.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
It was a text from Mom with a lot of
information and it ended with saw Kenny, Kenny.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, that's right, get lunch or something at lunch.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
She had lunch with Kenny.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
They from Tina from Sash, finest producer in the land.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
She can't swim, and look at it.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
You can't swim.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
She can produce, but I.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Tell you what, those fingers can tippy tan and she
can shoot too.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Clay pigeons, Oh, hang on, there was a mistake. They
weren't clean. It could happen to anyone, anyone if.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
You heard that really sad thing about pigeons.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
What about the cameras?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It makes me sad.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Cameras. I don't understand that. I don't understand that camera
birds aren't real.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've never heard that.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, it's weird. It's like flatters. I'd like to get
on board.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
The pigeons are cameras.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, yeah, film what filming? Hot chips? Hang on? What? Why?
What said?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
They were bred many many centuries ago.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, that too far to carry messages.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Right then we moved on as a society. Yeah, and
now they have no role and they don't know what
to do. Pigeons don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
They like no purpose, say, but what other creatures in
the world. I have a purpose?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
But they were bred to do exactly that. Messages like
humans losing their joint and Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's terrible. Well just put them on.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So next time you go pigeons, just remember they're lost.
They have nothing to do. I have nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, but that's why they're deplorable. That's why people despise them,
because it's innate in us to like people that have.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
A purpose where we go and make me.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Well, that is their new purpose, to spy on the
hot chake pigeons. Let me say this, our purpose on
this in some quarters highly esteemed an increasingly popular podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's the Barkup comes with the money back guarantee.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And that is what that you will feel better at
the end of it than you do at the start
of it.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
And as we know, the times.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Are difficult difficult, as politicians like to say, people are
doing it tough and you know what you're needing tough times?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Is that an impression of your brother?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
All politicians, you know, they love to put on a
hard hat and say people are doing it.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Love a hard hat, Yeah, yeah, they love a hard hat.
You know what, they've got hard hearts.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
They fake empathy, but they've got hard hearts, of course
they do. Anyway, Well, the best thing that you can
do is deliver yourself unto us every week and.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
He will raise you. We raise you so you can
stand on and as that's saying goes, when you are
walking on the beach and there are footprints and thear
your footprints and then all of a sudden your footprints
aren't there, and.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
With the yep, that's exactly how no wonder it caught
on that say, it was carrying you with ke with
the pictures.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
And we're so happy to carry you as you carry
us with your feedback, which takes me to Kenny.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
We got there, so we were like, why is he
Kenny the We have an answer.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Kenny is a friend of ours who was dubbed Kenny
the Kit after he cheated.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
On his.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
He cheated on his wife.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Does she know it's our only reference when we talk
about him Lowell and they still have lunch with him?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, of course I don't know if the wife.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
No keeping up appearances.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I assume the wife would not.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Is an impeccable stamaic name perfect and you know what,
of course he is.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
But also I like but he's also charming aim, which
made it possible for him to cheat on his wife.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Kenny the flawed human doesn't have the same ring to it.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Doesn't also because no one's going to like Kenny enough
to cheat with him. But Kenny the she is obviously
charming and capable of luring a woman too and her
fopa into sexual congress with him. Kenny, and everybody's got
someone like that in their life.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I think, like a charming a rogue.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, I'm sorry. In my experience, players players players players
player hate the game. While the players have skills, yeah,
forgot the moves they do. You don't meet someone who's
not charming and a bore of a person and then
you find out they're a player. That happens. It's the

(21:09):
name of the game.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Why do they always say it's always the quiet ones
who but people.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Say, that's the same you reckon Kenny the quiet. No,
no he's not, he's not quiet.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Great anyway, we love that, we love it, and this
will just delight you.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
This is from Vincent Andreano.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Sounds like a hairdressers name.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well very close.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
A dinner theater actor, so I think from a similar cloth,
a bit fabulous and wanting people to.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Leave feeling better than when they arrived with their greasy hair.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Correct and their untamed locks. And he provides an evening
of entertainment. So I'm writing because in your recent episode,
Kate and Nate spoke on the forgotten joys of dinner theater.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Lest we forget the dinner Theater, I.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Wanted to share that I'm an actor and currently playing
Basil Faulty in the Faulty Towers Dining Experience.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I've seen ads for that and I thought it was
a scam. I do you think it was real?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Wow? At one point John Cleese put a stop.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
To something happened.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
He wanted something he wanted.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
It was like a legal thing.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, he wanted royalty from it.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
From our buckhead.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
I wonder if I wonder if any more Ination Yes,
which has been running for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
He must be tired. It's a genuine honor to get
to connect with the audiences, to make them laugh. Blah
blah blah blah blah. It's one of the best jobs
I've ever had. In fact, I will be performing it
in February, which is now at the Sydney Opera House.
I'm utterly chuffed.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
To bits to be sharing the very same hallowed halls
as my beloved fabulous buck Up team.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I love. But this man is performing at the Opera House,
and out of the decades of iconic performances and shows
that have been put on in the hallowed halls of
the Opera House, he chose the buck Up. He chose
the Bup as the show. True, and he's got a point.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I love it, he said again. Thank you all so much.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Eugene subs array, which I frequently quote much to the
baffled bewilderment of the unbucked.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
But they'll be converts soon enough. With love Vincent. Oh,
I love him, he's so eloquent.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I reckon he's one of the leads shows types star.
Oh he said he's a buzzle.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, he doesn't say he's buzzle. I'm an actor currently
playing it's oh I love that house, house our listeners.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
High performers, high achievements.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yes, yes, yes, love him, yes and happy.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
There is a bunch of people in my life, Kate
Lainbrook that have returned to happiness in the last week.
What do you mean they're themselves again. There is a
buck back in their.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Step where once it was missing.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
It had been missing for many a week. I am
calling calling, I am talking about parents whose kids have
gone back to school.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, as the.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Friend with no kids experience as I continue on through
this life, yes, yes, yes, the difference in my friends
yes now from school holidays to.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Holidaysation is lifted from my.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Should anytime I have the nibbling doubts of maybe I
should have a child, maybe we should become parents, let
me tell you talk to a parent. Third week of December.
You're going to get it very honest.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yes, it's true. But that's not a reason not to
do it, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Do you know what it's not for the week? And
I'm just saying, is it sounds being a parent?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know what we need to do. We need to
make a sound grasp of Denny Hines calling me a
lazy that's what we need to do. We'll do that just.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
And you know why, we can enjoy this and this
perhaps teachable moment because if you long enough, someone's going
to say something about you that you don't like. But
it's really only going to cut you to the quick
if it's honest and it actually gets to a part
of yourself that you've always tried to keep hidden because

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you're so deeply ashamed of the truth of it. There
was no truth whatsoever in that. So we can heartily
enjoy the fact that you're lazy.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And just embrace joy. I do love it.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yes, it was such a weird thing because there's so
many things that she could have and sing.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
That it was very it was untrue. That accusation very untrue.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
AnyWho parents, which you are not.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
You are not of the number, but you are a
committed friend of parents.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yes, and and and invested uncle in uncle.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
It's even the way they.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Play a very important role.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
By the way, the people that are not necessarily related
to your children, who love them and opt into their lives,
they are the most magnific people.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's have a shout out, Hey, love it.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Hey, no word of a lie. It's it's annoying that
a lot of the things I do I can't share
with my nieces and nephews and my friends kids because
they're young and my stand ups very adult. It has
been a genuine thrill of the jungle watching it.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You getting bullied, Well, it's part of.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
The reason why I made sure to speak up and
to stand up for myself, because you're thinking about who's watching, right,
It's not nice for them to see, but good for
them to see me stand up for most of yeah,
yeah good.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And also they bully you.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Merciless please boy?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Oh school holiday, school holidays.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes, it's almost like you parents out there. Yes, you
want the kids, you don't really want to see them.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, let's just spare a thought.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Have the kids, but like I want to actually be
with them.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
All right, all right, now, this is but I knew
i'd have with this double income no kids. Just spare
a thought for this.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Did you just call me double income no kids?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah? I did, dink. And here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
In what world do you believe that parents have a
yawning chasm of six weeks of free time to.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Occupy children over school holidays?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I don't know what nineteen fifties mindset you have where
some leave it to be the fantasy where mother's at
home with their apron on our dad's outside making a
slip back to the radio.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I think, so give it to me.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Hello that yeah, there is nineteen fifty. That's the school holidays,
Black and the ketchen.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Mum, exactly exactly. It's really a logistical night me and
hence it means that. That's why my one of my
favorite things is when you'll see a truck driver and
this little kid in the cabin next.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Because dad's taken him.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, they do see them. Yeah, you see it.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Kid looks so bored.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, of course, but I think they must also like
it a bit. It's important for children to be Is
this still happening, Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I haven't finished.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
My people are still having school holidays.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I know this sounds like old school radio, but it's
a serious question. School holidays in my street, we would
leave the house at nine o'clock in the morning. I know.
People are always talking about this, and I would not
come home to lunch.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So that's just not actually.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, well my sixteen year old six age, yeah he
does that.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
They just piss off, You don't know. Where they are.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do you know who he's sixteen? No, we don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
All the time, he's always with mates. He's a classic,
like he's always fishing off the pier or the.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Playing cricket or they just always you know, shoplifting, fishing
off the period. Great great bunch of friends of mates.
And they've always got like a little adventure going going on.
They know how to turn everything into a game where
they're playing basketball, or sometimes they've stayed over to our

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house and he makes some pancakes in the morning, like
they just they have fun.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I mean, but he has the closest to that. And
that's also because I think we're a bit free range,
and also.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
We're just tired. We're just.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Things get lax as you go from the oldest to
the youngest one.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I was third out of four. Yeah, free range, and
the younger younger one, Steph, my younger sister, she got
she got the best because I was also the first
out of all of us who was a little shit.
I was the first one rebelling, I was the first
one getting detentions. I was the first one who was awful.

(31:22):
I was awful. Were you awful? I was a really
bad teenager. Oh that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, just when you say that, because normally people outgrow that.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Team Denny strikes again. I remember one day my mom
went into my that is a T shirt? What Team Denny?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Oh my goodness, how funny would that be?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
One to the next pod.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh, I love it, Team Denny.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
One day my mom went into my bag or having
a look for something else always.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
She found this for a brown banana.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
She found a note pad and the notepad was filled
with me rehearsing her writing, her handwriting, and her signature
for all the detentions.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I signed Nate's mum.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
A writing full sentences in her handwriting to like, get
out of stuff. That's pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why were you thinking about school holidays?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Because my friends have returned.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
My friends come back to you.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
They're calling again. We're gossiping again, they're kicking off, we're
having our forty five minute bitch session at one pm.
Mom's on her way back from polates again. They're all back,
And you know, I have my friends.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
People like to say things like if you're like, if
you're feeling the pressure of like looking raising children or
looking at them whenever, and then people will always say,
like you just can't win.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
When the year kids are little and you're in the
park an older lady, you'll stop and go little children,
little problems, beach children, big problems.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You're like, oh, I'm sorry, Why is the lady in
the park saying?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
They just say that old ladies talk to you all
the time about yeah when you're talking those sort of yeah,
little children, little problems, big children, big problems. Right, And
at the time, if you've got like four under six
like I had, you're so exhausted too much. You can't
think anything beyond the problems that you have at the moment.
And the other thing they like to say, which is

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similar is, for instance, like school holidays or whatever, or
the washing or the thing or the blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Because you're in the service of love, but you're nonetheless
in servitude.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
People like to say, I'm going to look back on
these is the happiest years of your life. And I'm like,
how does get sound? I just can't you just say, oh,
your love when this period is over.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like why does it always have to be so.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Filled with nostalgia and fear of the future and whatever?
It was like on the day our youngest started well,
every day when kids first start kinder or preschool, preschool,
what do they call it?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Reception? Terrible name terrible.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Anyway, we didn't have research.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, they're making it that now. I think they're transitioning
anyway with our producers.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
They're using her cream.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
And always on that day people cry.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
And oh but I get that.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I do too, I do too.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's first day of school.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But on the last day that where our last one
started prep, I was the most stony hearted, dry mother
in the school ground. I just was like, oh, praise
be but yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
And people were like, you must be feeling, which is
nice that people feel that, But I was just saying,
comes a point at which you're like.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
My life is back, well, next chapter.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Just this is how if you're going to cry at
the end of every chapter of the book of your life,
you're going to spend a lot of time crying.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I mean, you know, is that in your real book,
crying at the end of every chapter because I've just
happiness that you did it.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, that thank crying out of happiness, yeay, crying out
of happiness.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
But crying out of fear for the future. Not just
banish it.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Fear that.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Don't you find that.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Fearful talk of the future.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, that the thought that things. Of course, when things change,
they're difficult. Transitions are always hard.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yes, but I do the fear of the future. Sorry,
all the time. Cody catches me morning. I do that,
even though she's been about eight years later. Doesn't stop me.
I understand, you let it in.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I understand. Oh, no, Valvo, that will be.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
We can't even think.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Why would you think about it?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Because I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I power dies a thousand deaths, thank you, A brave
man dies.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But once.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Oh, so we're anticipating the bad thing that hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
We're living the pain of it as though it has.
What's the point of that. It'll be bad enough when
it happens.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
And you know what, I never You're right, she may
never die. I could, I might. You have not put
up in the jungle yet spoiler alert, I die.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I'm really enjoying the jungle.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, speaking of it, can we just I'm going to
sing the praises of the show for one second, and
my camp mates the show, which is shocking to me. Yeah,
the show is like rating the highest that has Someone
told me the other day it's like since a long time,
since seven seven years.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Or had an audience that couldn't leave.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
The house, and it's a very You're a big part
of that is a very You're used to this, and
I know everyone's fickle. Everyone forgets everything in a week.
I understand. So at the moment, I'm enjoying the ride,
and it is a very wild ride. But it's there's
been a noticeable difference in things like people saying hello,
people saying things in cafes.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Especially because you're walking around with your recubra and your
T shirt I do my name celebrity.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
The oddest thing which really made me laugh a lot
is a woman in a cafe. I clocked it. It's
happened to a few of the guys that are doing
the show as well. People can't get their head around
that it's not live.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh yeah yeah so and that hasn't affected it isn't that.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
It's actually made it better because they've got more time
to edit storylines and emotions more on display. We filmed
it a couple of a few weeks ago. You'll still
vote for your winner, vote on me, Uh, vote for you.
I don't know when I say anything, but the but

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some people. I don't know. It's not live. So can
you imagine?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I feel like they've send the ghost.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
You're at home watching the jungle. Then you go to
the cafe the next day and you see one of them.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You see a guy who looks.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Exactly like but it can't be people I've clocked with
the double take. They get their phone out, they see
them like secretly trying to go hang on, and they're
looking up whatever they're googling about the cast.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And this lady, which I respect her, just owned it
and came up to me and said, how are you here?
Why can I see you? I saw you last night
or something, and I had to explain that it was
not live. It is a very odd experience. But the
question I want to ask you is this, and I
need tips from our buck heads. When you speak about
facial hair, oh, because.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
You've always said yours is patchy, Well it is why
I don't think it is.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
I'm not getting any messages saying you're brave. I'm not
getting any messages about anything other than feedback on the
facial hair and what about it? They think I should
do it forever? Oh no, thank you? Oh no, I
don't like it.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
And also, why would you think I've been so time
and effort on that floorless?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Bizarre? Thank you, that's stunning, skin.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I'm surprised by this reply by.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You, stunning cheek skins.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I thought you were going to say something else.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
No, no, but I totally think you can pull it off. No,
why would you?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
And I love your boys shown like so many people
said to me, I can't believe he's forty two.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah, here's I turned. I turned forty two in the jungle.
Is that a weird birthday? Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Did they give you anything?

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Well?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I wasn't allowed to tell the care mates. It was
very odd. I mean something. Yes, yeah, you're not doing something,
but I don't know because it was they had something
else planned for that day.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
You couldn't distract them by in conversation.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Because they make me do something for it.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Oh, I can.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
So here's my when I wanted to ask our buckcare
ow male buckheads right about maybe your.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Husband's he's always My husband's always had facial.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
How do they deal with the itchiness? It is a
form of torture I have never experienced in my life.
I feel like I've got bed bugs constantly on my face.
I couldn't sleep. I was waking up scratching it. In
the jungle. You will see that there's often I'm scratching
my face. It's torture.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
But now is that just because it's in that A.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Couple of my friends have said it never leaves. A
couple of my friends, A couple of my friends said,
a couple of mates it only lasted a couple of months,
like a couple of months. But I have a couple
of mates that have told me that the itch never leaves.
You're telling me men with beards and all. My wife
not have to scratch an itch time.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
My husband's never scratching and.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
He doesn't think it's itchy.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I don't know. I've never asked him. Please ask had
a beard as long as i've known.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Can you please ask him if he is itchy?

Speaker 4 (41:15):
And in fact, I think it's probably a bit annoying
to him and it would be to other beadies.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
When everyone got on board the bearded look.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I was huge a few years ago. If you've seen
I blamed the guy from that band. It was that guy.
There was his there was his upswinging bands where it's
a banjo and they wore vests with like the country
sounding music and they all had little like beards that.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Look into bluegrass.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, it was sounded like bluegrass, but it was like
mainstream remember like ten fifteen years ago, like meld and Sons, right,
So that beard was in for ages. All my question
was is that all these men are they secretly secretly itching?
We need we need people because it's quite unmanly to

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be like and they're hiding the itch. I reckon your lover.
I don't think that he dies off to the toilet
a couple of times a day and this has a
big scratch when you're not.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Maybe, but I don't think beardy men I think generally
are not vain enough to tolerate that. Are they?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Well you've seen the footage.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I mean, as we know, they have to scratch every
other itch they've got, so I can't imagine that they would.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Let the bed bar.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Haven't you seen the footage of those viral videos where
people are Dad or shave.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
His beard for the first baby cries, and.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
The baby cries, but the white you can tell things
he looks awful.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah, well, I just like I don't like it when
Peter shaves his beard off.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Sometimes he does a close.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Trim what's your what's your problem?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Just that I love the way he looks covering. It's
just a shock to me that reveal. You know, it's
not the first time I went and got to Brisilan.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I feel like it's a very smart move for men
at a certain age, my me and my friends. When
your jaw line starts to go, you just can hide it.
Jaw line's going, it's disappearing.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Whatever, bye bye, it's I find it pleasing' I like it.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Please let me know. And I like the bids reach out.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That that is amazing if that's the case in the edge,
I mean, I'd like to think that men do something
for fashion that causes discomfort.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Women do a lot of everything. So much the fashion
is is steeped in discomfort.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
It really is. As a Kylie Lyrics says, a girl's
got to suffer for fashion.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Oh, Kily kyly what does she rhyme fashion with girls?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Fashion? She doesn't. She moves on to another Lyrics right,
what her body can orange? He's got to make a passion,
she says. Passion In the next line.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Really I underread, Oh my goodness, And once again, what
she teaches us all a lesson.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Comes through, mtally comes through.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I love it. You know, I've been in Jamaica. I
went to my own accord.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
That's a lie. You went for a TV show?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Do you not know that joke?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh no, what's it again?

Speaker 4 (44:25):
What my wife's gone to the Caribbean Jamaica. No, she
went of her own accord. It's just become shorthand, it's
she went of her own accord. Oh yeah, I went
for a TV show. And it was the most whirlwind trip,
very quick, insane.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Also because I had to come back for work.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I was sandwiched in between work and so I was
there for five days and it took nearly as long
to get there and home as it did.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Did you shoot ever adapt to the time zone at all?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Not really? But it was also the we were filming
were like so long, and we were driving up mountains
and at once.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Those shows love footage of you walking. I can only
imagine the amount of bee roll they had to get much.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
No, No, I'm like, oh no, And it was telling
this story.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
All the role going to be. You're sitting in the car.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I hope so, I hope so. But that country is
spectacularly beautiful.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
You've never been.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, I've been. I went when I was eighteen, very
beautiful and in a terrible state of disrepair, which may
be to the Gunga intake, which is on a level
which you cannot even fathom. Legal right, decriminalize but no

(45:48):
one ever, may as well be legal. And also because
the Rasters, I think it's part of their religion. Our
driver was a rased rasta man.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Very stupid question. Do they export it? Do they make
money from it?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I'm sure no not the government doesn't. But someone is well.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I mean, I know people can export it. I meant
officially the.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Yeah, anyway, but so you're talking like at all times
of the day or night, like.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
The smell of it everywhere, like everywhere, the smell of it.
I think it's it's very.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Sweet and cloying, but so distinctive. Anyway, but it was amazing,
And we went to a coffee plantation and you'll see
on the TV show Sean mccrloff's Origin Odyssey it's called
You just spent a lot of time with Sean macrloffs.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
The best is did he get on it? You wanted
him to plan was to go and he really wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
ABC Stars to Jamaica SBS same thing, and he was like,
I don't think And he was like, I don't think
the SBS, you know, the powers that be their spears.
I said, you're overseas. That's like being annoyed at you

(47:04):
for driving on the wrong side of the road.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Mate, I'm in America. That's what they do, do you
know what I man?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Now, we can't give away spoilers because we want people
to watch the show, but you sent a sash and
pick you were hanging out with Ralows. Oh yes, yeah, yeah,
and we'll get the details on the show. But that
was a cool pick. Yeah, very tall, was very tall.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, I didn't notice that everyone was very tall.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Well, unbeknownsto good Hang.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
One of the cousins Ak and Dally had had come
over to because I wasn't ever allowed to know what
we were doing or where we were going, and they
wanted to surprise me with you know, like the origin
of the family plantation and stuff like that, where my
great great great great grandmother worked outside the house. Wow

(47:52):
enslaved person and and but got into the house as well.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Uh huh, I take that math that how that right?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Anyway, fascinating story, I guess, but.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It seems to happen often on these type of shows
on the like those Discovery of Family Tree shows. Often
you'll you'll get to that point of where the moments change. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Anyway, So one of my cousins had come over the
night before and stayed for three hours talking to the crew,
two of the producers, telling them how how important the
Hickling family is in Jamaica, which is my that's my

(48:41):
my grandmother was Kate Hickling, right, and and he uttered
this immortal line. You have to understand, we are the
Obamas of Jamaica.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Oh my god, let's where the Kate comes from.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
He knew inheritedly?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Well, no, he also then he was gassing me up as.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Well.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I wasn't there for that conversation, but outside a restaurant
one night, he was saying, maybe I shouldn't say that
I met cousins, but no, they knew.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I knew cousins. I've met them when I was eighteen.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Anyway, people watched the show.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Anyway, Outside the restaurant that night, he was talking to
Alex our rastaman driver and fixer really lovely clever guy
and Willow our security guy, and and one of the
girls who was helping as well, and he was telling them.

(49:40):
I came out and he said, I'm just telling them
that everyone knows. He said to Willow the security guard,
have we ever met before? And Willow said no. And
he goes, if I say the name Hickling, and Willow
went yes, I know it, and he went se C
I'm like, yeah, anyway, whatever he said to me royalty,

(50:01):
He said, I know you're very mafia. He said, I
know you're very successful and a celebrity in Australia.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
This is what he said.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
And you only have those things because of this family
here and who you are.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
It's all the Hicklings.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
How's that Hickling? Like, how do you know it's not
because of the clog wearing Dutch mate.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
The hickling.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Of the family to cheese?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Did you plug out pod constantly?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Constantly? But here's a guessing game.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Right on the way back, I got a plane. So
the flight from Jamaica, I told you my brutal schedule,
didn't I last.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Week on the title yes whenever whenever that I was.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Going via Miami I was going Kingston, Miami, Miami, Dallas, Dallas,
Melbourne home right, missing out the Sydney Melbourne League, thank goodness.
But so on the way back, the flight from Kingston
to Miami is only like an hour and something. It's
like an a Jet Star flight, right, and there's a
lot of traffic that way, so it's like a small,

(51:11):
smallish plane, not a big you know, guess how many
but flying back to America, so a lot of Americans
on board and Jamaican Americans whatever, but a lot of tourists.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Guess how many wheelchairs? Wheelchairs? Because anyone who's been to America,
and you know, there's always this talk in America about
how they would like to have socialized medicine like we
have here. Praise be a bit wobbly but fantastic that

(51:46):
you know you'll get looked after. And of course they
don't have that in America.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
People are crippled by horrendous and evil medical bills.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Say hi to your big farmer husband anyway, thank you.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
So callads, you are tying a bow so long there.
Imagine if we found that out. Cody is one of
those guys up the price of medication.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
They do it. What do they do it with insulin?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, that's the man I married the people that are allergic.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, adrenaline. No, what's injah anyway?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Where I forgot?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
So but you're also shocked by because America really they
are feeders a poisoned diet.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
It's all john fructose.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Corn syrup and sugar and salt, and it's just terrible.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
So they they actually can't have nationalized medicine because there's
not enough money in the world.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't know. So how many wheelchairs for a smallish
plane in Australia if you get a fly one, two,
one or two? I want to be done often even now.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Most of the time.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
None, Yeah, I will say seven. Okay, what do you say, Sash? Eleven? Oh, Sash,
you are so close. Guess how many wheelchairs?

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Because I actually heard the cabin crew have to call
for them to make sure they had them all.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Twelve wheelchairs. Twelve wheel chairs.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Play together when we got Was it some sort of
group actually you would think that, Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Anything that they had in common was that they had
traveled on a plane together and they and there was
a certain degree of infirmary. Okay, but they were lined
up on.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
First like a i'me sensing.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Unbelieve, Well some of them you do look at like
I know that My mother always liked to get a
wheeled around.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Way do you get jealous of not wheel chairs? Some
people that are on the little buggy? Why are they
on the buggy?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
How do you get on the buggy?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Get me on the buggy?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
How do you get on the buggy? I'm have you
ever got on the buggy?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I think once I got on the buggy, and but
the get the bug and doing it?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Why did you get the buggy?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Was that they would do? They were breaking a rule
by letting us get on the buggy, so you knew that.
How do you get the buggy?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Hey? Flight attendants? Buckets at work?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
How do you get the buggy? How do you get
as when.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
You don't actually need it? How do you get the buggy?
How do you fake the buggy?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah? That is anyway? How's that?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
And in fact, when you go through and I was
in two hubs Miami and Dallas, I have never seen it.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
It was probably after that.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
So many people being wheeled through an airport in my life.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Quite ica, can't I mean I went to Vegas Cup
last year. Remember to see Kylie opening to the Vegas
the Vegas attendees. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
And also, as Peter said to me, similar when we
we were in Hawaii and Peter seed and these are
the good ones, like as in well, these are the
ones that are.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Good enough to well enough to travel. Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's really we're bucking We're bucking up our own medicurses.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
And people that really need to have support can still travel.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yes, and God bless those who pushed the wheel cheese.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yes, these of course who sit in them.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Her sounds slightly suspicious.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
No, not there not the wheelchairs you do.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Get through the one? Do you think my mom did?

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Sometimes as well as sometimes there's a very well kept
woman on a buggy, very good purse, hair dry like
a big hair that hasn't been a befon. I'm thinking, oh,
she's worked some stuff out. Yeah, that's who I'm interested in.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Get me from Oh oh Dad, Oh oh gee.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I'm dad.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
You know, because I've said your dad, but nine times
out attention plays the wrong intro.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I mean, and you wonder why fired you know?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
And we do say and it's with love and great
pride that we refer to her as the finest producer
in the land. But it does make you wonder about
the caliber of the other producers.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
In the land, the people that didn't get the finest,
who are not the finest.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
But you know, that's like how they measure, for instance,
vitamin D. Like when you go to get your vitamin
D tested, for instance, or I think any Sasha has
heard me say this before, but it's very interesting. So
they test you against a mean of the population. So
they take a sample of like five thousand people and

(57:00):
they find them the mean and the average, and so
that's what they measure you against.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And they go, oh, no, your levels like within normal.
But Nate Valvo, riddle me, this what happens if you're
being measured against a portion of the population who are
all vitamin D deficient, who are all vitamin D deficient

(57:26):
compared to what the levels were in the nineteen thirties
when they first started testing vitamin D. What happens. It's
not a rhetorical question. Get by the answer. What happens?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I don't know, OK, I don't know. Will you get
time and take more of your supplements? This is what
you want me to say, Go to your cobby. Get
all your pills.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Go to your cupboard.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Covered the one that you said's full.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
It's full. Oh it's full.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Get your potions to get you.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But just be aware of that that you may be
actually deficient and it doesn't show up because you're being
measured against. You're being told what's normal is not normal. God,
she's good, which happens a lot in society.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Text from Dad over you're talking about the thirties.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
I've missed you. How can we have our I did
miss you? I did miss you. Did you miss me
in the jungle?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I did? I really did? And I took what?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, don't what?

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I had to look at a message? So go on
what you mentioned me? Yet I spoke about the pod
so much in the jungle. They edit all of that
stuff out. They don't you as a public doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh they don't care about kateline Brook. Okay, good to know.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Read just reading the comments.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
All right, it's a.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Text from or Dad.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Here we go, Christie, Kirsty, see what just happened? Yep?
I've told you, haven't I? When I rule the war World?

Speaker 4 (59:01):
In a scene reminiscent of Gladiator, all the Kirsties and
the Christie's and will be shown into an arena and
they will battle it out and when they emerge the
victor and I don't know. I don't have a dog
in the hunt. It could be Cursedy christ who it is,
but there will only be one name, okay, so it

(59:24):
will be under my rule. The Obamas of Jamaica.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Od Jesus. We do account on how many times we hear.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
That this year. Aw just I'll have forgotten it.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
BA, Come on, Michelle read the text.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
So cursty, I've got a text from mum except us
from my dad. He was in Blackwood in Victoria. Oh
that's where Peter's cousin lives. Hello, Ben at his holiday
house for the weekend and I text him to ask
how the weather is, but really just.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Checking his ok And this was his response text from Dad. Precious.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
This is the mumsiest text from Dad that I think
we've ever had. On the show, Mild and Sonny pleasant day,
did a bit of work, saw Paul enjoyed cutlets, caught
up with neighbors. Emily had thyroid cancer, believes all clear

(01:00:24):
after operation, being harassed by parrot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
So yeah, a cutlet, a cut, a disease, a disease,
an animal.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
And an animal and all in like, don't point do
we do the weather?

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
See the mom? Do we do the web? The mum
would have ended on the on the disease. Yeah, that's correct,
and they always cliff a disease the parrot.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
And also mum wouldn't have put believes all clear after
operation because she wouldn't deep down and believed it was
going to be all clear.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Do you know what I mean? There's always like you're
always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I love you. There's been many highlights in my
career and to continue this pod with the Obamas of
Jamaica is going to be right up there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Also, I'm like, I was thinking, what were you thinking
bags not being Michael?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Who Michael Obama is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
The brother that does the sports podcast or something? Who's
Michael Obama? Oh my god, you're saying Michelle was born
of man?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
You don't need to Why can't you just you don't
need to tell Obama's not would think you was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
The buck Up podcast is hosted by me Kate lane
Brook and him Nathan Valvo. It's produced by.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
The brilliant Sasha French Audio and sound by the magnificent
Yack Lawrence. You might call him Jack and Dom Evans
are We're lucky