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September 9, 2026 • 12 mins

David Lombardi, sports reporter for The San Francisco Standard, joined the show to discuss all things NFL, his experiences in Australia, and, of course, burgers.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
It feels like Christmas Eve today. The buzz here in
Melbourne is electric right now. The sun's up. The Rams
are finally showing up for the game as well. 49ers
have been here all week, and I think they've won
over all the locals. Neutral fans will be cheering on
the 49ers tomorrow. We have a pair of tickets, which
are going to give away to go to the huge
game tomorrow. And one of the highlights of this week

(00:50):
has been all the American sports journalists who've been over
wandering around here, who've been here for the week with
the 49ers, filming videos, discovering what chicken salt is, that
the coffee really is some of the best in the world.
And I think it's been a really nice way because
when I moved here from London eight years ago, for
my first two years, people would always say to me,
why did you move here from London? And I was like,

(01:11):
because this is a nice place here as well. And
I think Australia sometimes has this kind of lack of self-confidence.
There's a cultural cringe. I don't think you realize what
a great country it is. And there's so many great highlights.
And so we've got David Lombardian, who's a reporter for
the San Francisco Standard. And I started watching your stuff
on Monday. So we really want to say thank you.

(01:33):
for being so effuse about Melbourne and Australia. David, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Thank you. And I think I had chicken salt for
the first time yesterday. Now that you mentioned it, they
put it on my fries at this Australian burger place
called Andrews.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
And it was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
The fries were addictive with it. They asked me if
I wanted chicken salt or some kind of other salt.
I had no idea. I'm like, just pick for me.
They said, you want the chicken salt. So I had
the chicken salt.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Australians are very proud of Australians. Now, the first thing
I have to check, your surname then, Lombardi.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. Are you any relation to one of the greatest
coaches of all time, Vince?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I mess with people, and I probably could mess with
you guys right now.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
You should.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
We wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
You could be his son.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm Vince Lombardi's great-great, or maybe just great-grandson. Grandson? I
don't know what the appropriate... I'm not related to him,
but I have a perfect name for football.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And people love it, and that is the Lombardi trophy.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You're right. And tell me this. What have you made
of Australia this week, then? Because you've been here all week.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's such a fascinating country. I started in Brisbane, worked
my way down to the Gold Coast, the Byron Bay area,
flew down here, and I'm going to see Sydney after this.
The first part that really, really kind of messed with
my head, but it's awesome, is that there's a Pacific

(02:49):
Coast Highway. It's called the Pacific Motorway here. We have
that in California.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So this is like the mirror inverse of We're on
the other side of the Pacific Ocean. We're in the
southern hemisphere. And so I see so many things that
are similar, but they're a little bit different. The burger yesterday,
for example, there's a place in San Francisco called Sam's
that Anthony Bourdain went to. And he said it's one
of the top three burgers in the world. I love Sam's.
Shout out to them if you ever go to the U.S.

(03:16):
Andrew's reminded me of Sam's, like the vibe and everything.
But the burger was different. It was Australian. It was
really good. So everything here is different. reminds me a
little bit of California going down the coast, except in
a slightly different way. And it's like really hard to
put your finger on it. But that's the biggest compliment
I could give because I love California. And I think

(03:38):
that Australia and the coastline and the cities have similar vibes.
And now we're here in Melbourne and there's some San
Francisco in this city, quite literally.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I've been to San Francisco. I would definitely say that.
You've got a bay as well here in Melbourne as well.
One thing I've noticed from your videos, you really love
tram talk. At first, I thought you were a tram correspondent.
You love our tram system. A lot of heavy video
about the trams.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's a cool connection there, and you're right. I'm half Czech, actually.
My mom is from Prague, and I spent the summers there,
and they have a crazy, intricate tram system as well.
As an American, we don't really have much knowledge In
terms of public transit, people love their cars. They're probably

(04:26):
the two most robust public transit systems are New York
city and San Francisco and San Francisco is not, not
nearly as robust as New York. So I think there
is a little bit of a fascination from Americans when
you could show up somewhere and you don't have to
drive everywhere. And then they have the Melbourne has the.
I think biggest tram network in the world. The only
reason I now know this is from watching your video.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I didn't know that none of us on the team
knew this until David.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Did you see the connection to San Francisco? Melbourne donated
two of them to San Francisco and they run there.
So when I showed up here, I saw the old
historic one. It's the older one. It's like the one
that just, I think, takes the scenic route. I saw
it and I'm like, I've seen that in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
We're screwing with you, David. So at that point I
was like, oh, this is cool. Let me look up
some other connections. And the neighborhood called Richmond in Melbourne
is the namesake for the Richmond district in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
So there's some cool connections between the two cities. And
I think it's fitting that the 49ers, the San Francisco
49ers are playing the first game here.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Now, tell me this, though. Big game tomorrow. Australia's really,
really excited.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
What's fascinating about this as well is it's two completely
teams with two very different strategies about how to deal
with the sleep and the time zone and the 15-hour flight. So, obviously,
your team, the 49ers, you've been here for a week.
The team have been getting used to acclimatising to the
time zone here. Rams have just arrived. Don't you think
it's going to be interesting tomorrow? They've all been looking

(06:00):
at the same science. Two vastly different teams with different approaches.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So the Rams have decided to just ignore jet lag.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Literally, though, they say we would rather play the game
at 5 p.m. on our body clock time, which is
the time that it's going to be at 10 a.m.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
On Thursday, yes.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, when it starts. What I think they're not taking
seriously enough is just being on a plane for that
long makes you ache and just throws you off in
a different way. So even if you're on the body
clock time that you want to be on, They could say,
oh yeah, we have lay flat seats. These guys are 6'6,

(06:39):
320 pounds. Not all of them are going to sleep
or not all of them are going to get the
you know, most restful position.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And also, have they got extra wide beds for some
of the big guys?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
They're on the Qantas A380, so they have the- Is.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
That like the widest plane in the world?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
That's the double-decker where they have the ultra first class
at the top, so I think the biggest players might
get the best seats. So, in theory, I could see
what they mean, but I think it's a.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bunch of- It's like a giant share house.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
A frat house in the sky. Animal house in the sky.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And then the Niners took the same flight and they
have already reported back saying it took us three or
four days to do normal. I just think that the
Rams did this on paper and it sounded good in
their heads. But I think in practice, once you're on
the plane, yeah, you could say, oh, this is really comfortable.
But once you're on it, you're like, wait, you know,
this is nice, but I still need a couple of
days to recover. That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Now, listen, I know obviously you're biased, um, but what
do you think is going to happen? What can we
expect in the game tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's going to be a really good competitive game. The
NFL picked these two teams for a reason. They're in
the same division. They play twice a year, unless they
play three times a year, like they did a few
years ago in the NFC championship game. So they know
each other really well. The games between the Niners and
the Rams are always very competitive. Last year, they split.
The 49ers won one, the Rams won one. So it, it,

(07:58):
It's a toss-up, I think. I think that the Rams
not having Aaron Donald yet, who's their legendary defensive tackle,
came out of retirement but didn't make the trip, works
in the favor of the 49ers. I think the 49ers
will have Nick Bosa, will have George Kittle. Those are
two superstars. So I think the edge will be that

(08:19):
they got here sooner and the fans will be on
their side.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Our whole team in show now, we're all 49ers because
of that.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So, listen, in football, I don't know how... In football,
it might be more important than in any other sport
because there are actual technical ramifications of crowd noise.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Because there's so much communication.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, it's a real thing. So, you know, anybody listening
that's going to the game, if you're offended by the
Rams disrespecting the city and the country by showing up
so late, you have to be as loud as possible...
When the Rams have the football right when they line
up at the line of scrimmage, because then the Rams

(09:02):
can't hear any of what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh, so all the calls will just get lost.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
And they have to go to silent count. So they
have to start doing stuff with their hands. And that
actually really, really impacts how things operate.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
And the defensive linemen can actually time the snap count
then and get like a split second advantage over the
offensive linemen trying to block him. because they can rely
on the visual cues. And so the defense is statistically
more likely to get to the quarterback and is more
successful when it is playing at home because the crowd

(09:36):
is on its side.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And yet this is.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Meant to be a home game for the Rams.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
And one thing the 49ers did great, not only did
they show up early, but they've had all the ex-players
and legends. Jerry Rice created chaos yesterday in Fed Square
by going into the transport bar.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
One of the greatest... receivers and players ever.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And so I suppose the Rams didn't at least send
some former players and legends out here in advance because
this is supposed to be a home game for them.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So what's really funny is that whenever the 49ers play
the Rams in Los Angeles, it's also supposed to be
a home game. for the Rams but it ends up
being a home game for the 49ers the Rams don't
even own LA is is I think Australians should understand
that so there's a rather complex history there but the
the Rams are have never been good at cultivating a

(10:23):
fan base. When they were in LA, they moved to
Orange County, which is over an hour away. And then
they moved to St.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Louis.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
So they abandoned Southern California. And that was during the
window where the 49ers were a dynasty. So the LA area,
an entire generation said, we're just going to be 49ers fans.
And so now when you go down to LA, there is.
I would say 70, 80% of the stadium is 49ers
fans and the Rams that their quarterback Stafford has complained

(10:51):
that he has to run silent count in his own stadium.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right. So they're going to get that treatment here as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
So, so here's the, here's the kicker. The, the Rams, they,
they got this Australia game and Kyle Shanahan, the 49ers
coach is convinced. And I think he has inside information
that the Rams lobbied the NFL to to send the
49ers as their opponent because the Rams did not want
to be embarrassed in their home stadium.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And now because they haven't shown up in time and
they didn't realize how seriously people take the sports here,
they might've turned the crowd against them. So they're going
to have the same issue. Love that.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I love the backstory. And so are you excited about
the game? Do we think we're going to see this
to be an annual thing? I think that obviously there's
a deal where there's two more games over the next
four years, because I think it was also surprised even
us on the team, is just how much Australians have
really got behind this week.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
We've loved it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes. I think they're coming back next year. I think
they've already made modifications to the G, to the locker rooms.
I think there's four locker rooms in there, but they've
been able to, because you need bigger ones for football
because the rosters are so big, that they've combined two
of the locker rooms to make one. Yeah, I read
something about that. So I think that they're doing stuff
that is not meant for one-time use. The NFL wants

(12:08):
to come back and, Roger Goodell has been glowing about
how well this week is going, and I think the
NFL has already decided that.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's been a joy having you guys here. Thanks for
coming in on the show. Enjoy Sydney the weekend, and
enjoy the game tomorrow. Go 49ers. Dave Lombardi, thank you
very much.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
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