May 24, 2026 • 41 mins
Should you decorate a rental like it’s your forever home? According to interior designer, Studio Brie founder and Australia’s Best House host Briellyn Turton, the answer is yes. Known for her personality-driven interiors, love of vintage pieces and playful approach to home, Briellyn joins The Edit to talk renter-friendly styling, whimsical interiors, hosting, lighting, TVs, resale myths and why the most beautiful homes are the ones that make everyday life easier.
In this episode of The Edit, host and Home Beautiful Editor-in-Chief Elle Lovelock sits down with Briellyn Turton to unpack how she creates homes with character, comfort and function. Briellyn shares how she uses fashion as a starting point for interiors, why she believes in decorating slowly, how to personalise a rental without waiting for the “forever home”, and the one hosting habit every busy homemaker should steal.
Together they explore why home should feel personal, playful and deeply useful, from where you drop your bag to how you make your coffee in the morning.
Moments You'll Hear:
- Briellyn’s take on dressing your home the way you dress yourself
- How to personalise a rental with art, vintage finds and moveable pieces
- A tour of Briellyn’s much-loved loft-style rental
- Why she moved for a courtyard, hosting space, and a bedroom with beautiful light
- The empty dishwasher and empty bin hosting rule
- What “whimsy” really means in interiors
- How Briellyn gets clients to trust their own taste
- Why your home should support your rituals, from skincare to coffee
- The renter’s dilemma: do you buy for now or forever?
- How to de-beige a rental without panic-buying generic furniture
- Why downlights should not be the default
- What to do when the TV has to be in the living room
- The design mistake Briellyn wishes Australians would stop making
- Why timeless homes are built slowly, not bought in one Saturday
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is an our media podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What does homemaker mean to you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
They love their home and they want it to look beautiful,
but they also have a full time job. But they
love hosting their friends, and perhaps they're trying to learn tips, tricks,
ways to make their home experience better because they have
a genuine interest in it. How I approach and how
I encourage people to approach their rooms and their homes
(00:32):
is with that patience and play and layering.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I have a confession to make. I don't always make
my bed, and I know that I should be the
editor of an interior design brand, but I just don't.
And I think many of us have these shortcuts just
to get through the day with as little friction as possible.
Today's guest is interior designer and creator Brilliant Turtin, and
(01:02):
she's sharing her perspective on why interior design and styling
it's not just about creating a beautiful home, but it's
about making every day easy. She treats interior styling like
getting dressed. It's playful, it's changeable, and it's responsive to
how you feel that day. I'll say specially in the
(01:23):
non permanent final layer of a room. Plus she has
got the best tip I've ever heard on how to
host beautifully enjoy free. Welcome to the edit. It's lovely to.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Have you here. Thank you so much, el I am
so pumped to be here. Oh me too.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I was getting dressed this morning and I was thinking
about today and what we'll chat about. And I've just
brought a new handbag and love it. I just love
a handbag and the color is ox blood, which I'm
obsessed with. And I was like around my home thinking,
I really do decorate the way I dress because I've
(02:05):
just got out the autumn cushions and they're all in
the same colors, rich rusts and reds. And then I
realize I've got a bit of a problem because I
do have seasonal cushions.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So I'll go through.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've got the winter set and the spring set, the summer,
and I'm not richid about it. I do mix them up.
But talk to me about you and fashion and interiors.
Do you do the same?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh You've started me on something I could talk about
all day. So that was your mistake. I love fashion
and I obviously love interiors as well, and I do
approach styling my outfit like I do a home. And
what I'm wearing today is a great example because tylo,
it's old, it's new, it's like scavenged in thrift stores.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Like this blazes my husband, is that a seersucker, because
oh my god, he's going to be so impressed in
you that it is a seersucker. It's a beautiful brow
see a sucker for anyone who's listening and can't see
it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yes, that's a men's men's blazer and like a little
bit of texture going on, almost to the point where
it's a pattern. Blouse is thrifted jeans, a new bit
of denim, but like a twist on denim, you know,
like anytime I do share the twist. So it's like
an open embroidered pattern in these geens, mixed metal jewelry
(03:23):
from everywhere like auction, gift paris, you know, like I
just really like collecting things. I think that excites me.
And that's exactly how I approach and how I encourage
people to approach their rooms and their homes is with
that patience and play and layering.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So do you mix up your interiors because I've seen
pictures and I absolutely love what you do. You've got
their screen in your home, Explain what does that look like?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So it's this beautiful vintage six panel hand patent screen
and we're renting. So, as you can imagine, I was
unbelievably bored by not being able to control the walls
and stuff like that. I've got a pretty nice art
collection with really large pieces, so that's helpful. But that
was just a piece that I thought, I can move
(04:16):
this around. It can be as you know, you can
spread out the screen, make it as long as you want,
you can make it more compact. So that was kind
of my little way to control my environment. Particularly we're
living in open plans, so I mean, I guess that's
exactly what those room dividers are for, right to divide
the room. So that's a really fun styling, larger styling
(04:38):
piece that I have, particularly in a rental.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Absolutely what else have you done in your rental to
personalize it?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, I mean, I'm married to a real estate agent,
I'm an interior designer, so we do kind of make
decisions and ask for forgiveness later. So we do, you know,
we do hang out on the walls, we do mount
our TV, and I know people for good reason have
reservations because I don't want get trouble.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But if anyone knows how to fix it back, you
just put that into the eye.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Chalk that up to being absolutely a worthwhile investment. You know,
if you're going to live in a place for a year,
two years, three years, you have the art on the walls,
so you just pay a professional to patch it up
when you leave.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I love those tips for personalizing your rental. Why
don't you take us on a tour of that place?
So this is the one with the It's got a
big staircare.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's kind of like a loft, sort of a closed
loft situation. Double height ceilings, which obviously starts you off
on the right foot in terms of scale and natural light.
Lucky enough to have draperies that are full height, which
is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Do you see these from the front door? So if
I'm coming over and you open the door, what's the
first thing I'd see?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh? You see this expansive open plan room, double height
glazing with the curtains so beautiful. You kind of walk
into the living room and then the little dining areas
just off to the left.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, and your dining area with those chairs?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Aren't they good?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Explain? What are they?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Where?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
To define them?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One of my past times is really digging deep for vintage,
Like it's almost like I just get locked in and
I can spend hours, whether it's in person, in a
dusty store or online.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's addictive.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's addictive and it's so satisfying. So originally I had
purchased four dining chairs from Soft Focus House, which is
a gorgeous little curated vintage person in Victoria. They were wonderful,
but there was only four of them, and I should
take my own advice because I knew I needed dining
chairs that were going to tuck because there wasn't too
much space. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Not everyone thinks about that, and.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I knew it, but I just love these chairs so
much about them anyway, So sure enough, six months later,
I'm like, number one, we need six chairs, and number two,
it'd be really fantastic if they talk. So I sold those,
and then I found these beautiful nineteen seventies again with
the chrome leg and a beautiful green pattern original upholstery,
which is what really made me fall in love. It
(07:03):
wasn't quite the color I was looking for, but again
That's where I think play and creativity is really important
because to have the original nineteen seventies upholstery, it is
pretty special. That in itself is going to bring an
energy into the space exactly. So they're gorgeous. Eight of those.
Adore them.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What do you say to people who might think, oh,
but maybe it's a bit worn or it's got some
marks on it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How do you live with that? Yeah? Well, you know,
some people can't write. Like We've got clients that I
know can't live with that. They will really bug them.
So that's just something that if you know that of yourself,
don't try because it's going to But most people, I
think when they know the origin, the story and the
(07:49):
pieces mean something, it brings it. It brings that sort
of old soul. So I, for example, am absolutely fine.
In many cases is preferable because you can see it's
lived alive and it's similar. This might be a long
bow job, but almost talking to clients about their kitchens
and we're talking natural stone or engineered. Many clients understand
(08:11):
that natural stone will over time show marks and imperfections,
but that's showing the life that's happened in the home.
And some clients just want a really neat, tidy.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, So it's just about knowing how you want to
live in your home, and that's how you can make
those decisions. What's up the staircase bedroom and a little
on suite. Yeah, nothing really too exciting up there. I
did get a king bed that was far too big
for the space, but that was a call that I
knew I was making, knowing it was a rental. You know,
it's like you just what you want, right, Yes, that's right.
(08:43):
So upstairs is probably the least interesting part of the house,
just to compact neat and tidy little bedroom and a tiny, tiny,
little and suite. All the fun stuff is down in
the main area. I see.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And now the reason I wanted to ask about this
place is because that is the home that's on your
socials and we've all seen it. But actually, plot twist,
you've moved.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We just moved this week. Yes, and it's going to
be really interesting getting settled into this new house because
it's going to be a lot tougher to decorate the land.
The ceilings are lower, it gets less natural light. There's
a few kind of pokey little bulkheads is only one
place for the TV like, it's just there's going to
(09:27):
be a few more challenges, which is exciting. I'm excited
to do it. So what was it about this place? Well,
it's got a gorgeous courtyard, like a big, expansive courtyard.
We have a very large, active, little dog, so we
knew how much he was going to love that. But
also we love posting family and friends, and I just
think that having a courtyard that can fit, that feels
(09:48):
good to be and can fit like a big lounge
and a big dining table, that is really exciting to us,
having the barbecue, that sort of feeling. And I also
fell in love with the bedroom in this place, which
is so interesting because I think the place we're just
talking about, the bedroom was not the most exciting part
in this one. We have this huge bedroom, it gets
the most incredible natural light. There's this big magnolia tree
(10:10):
out right in front of it, so it's just really
special feeling in the bedroom. It's really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So then do you choose a home based on a
feeling as much as practicalities, Because like you said, you're
an interior designer, your husband's in real estate. That would
make for it. I don't know an easier search for
a home or a trickier one both. I think it's
when we're looking, you know. He unfortunately, you know, he
(10:36):
is the expert. So a lot of the time the
actual house comes down to him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, I might say, what about this area, and
he's as specific as if we're going to go to
this suburb, I think we should be on this street,
this street or this street. Right, So it certainly does
so he's the captain of that. And then really, I
guess the final call is with me based on, like
you said, the function and the feeling. What can you
(11:01):
do with it? That's right, But I mean we used
to butt heads a little bit at the start because
of course we both have serious opinions because it's both
of our jobs, right, But we both now come to
the conclusion to let the other one be the expert
in the field. So he'll generally find the place or
the short list of places, and then the furniture and
(11:22):
the actual Is this going to work?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, is kind of up to me now, which is nice.
Something like he of course has opinions, and I say,
how seriously would you like to hold this opinion? Generally.
That's it's how we worked out works really well. That
is tricky.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, my husband works in a gym, so if
he has opinions about the home, I.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, so that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Now, you were saying that you chose this place, one
of the reasons was the courtyard and the entertaining space.
I've seen some of your entertaining tips, and the one
that I love the most is if you're having people over,
always start with an empty dishwasher and an empty bin. Yes,
that is the best, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I hate to say, and she's absolutely going to
listen to this podcast because she's a great hype girl
of mine. I actually got that dishwasher tip from one
of my best friends, Georgia. Oh thanks Georgia, I know,
and I'm like so annoyed that it's not my tip,
but she.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Told years ago, and it's a given credit good.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's so good. The bin is something I tacked on,
you know, obviously, but it's such a game changer. Honestly,
it's like this most simple thing you would never think of,
especially if you're in a flurry, you know, but it's
it makes your life so much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Easier, definitely, and particularly if you have an open plan.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh my gosh, I planned kitchen.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's right, You've got people over and you can just
put everything away away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But also like then you don't have to be standing
there hurriedly unpacking the dishwasher, trying to put it and
just missing out on the fun. Right, That's what I
hate when people lock themselves away in the kitchen and
work so hard while they're entertaining. So you should be
out there and enjoying yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So talking about fun, you are on whimsy. Yes, what
does whimsy mean to you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
If you want to boil it right down, it's creating
spaces that really bring out Again, I keep using the
word playfulness and just rest because I think that life, work,
all of that has gotten a lot more chaotic and
demanding for most people. We're out of the house for
(13:25):
longer than we were, and even if you're working from home,
you're still working a full day. So whimsy to me
is essentially decorating and living in a way that makes
you really happy, like really happy, childlife happy. You know,
it looks a little bit different to everyone, but generally
it's unconventional, perhaps like if you were decorating in whimsy,
(13:49):
I might walk in and think it's not for me.
And if I decorate in whimsy, you might walk in
and think not quite for you. And that's exactly what
it should be. It should not appeal to everybody, should
be inherently you. And it's just about not taking it
so seriously.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think it's interesting that you're saying this because we
had Greg Natali in here on the edit a little
while back, and he was saying that these days interior
design is taken too seriously. Yes, and I love that
you are making it more playful. How do you do that?
For clients?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It really starts with what I like to call an interrogation.
We really ask them so many personal questions. I warned
them upfront us it's like, well, ask you questions that
you will be thinking on earth does she need to
know this? But so, what would you ask me? One
of the most basic ones that we start with. We've
got a list of descriptive words, and I'll say, well,
(14:46):
here's eight words. Choose as many as you want, but
really think about it. How do you want your home
to make you feel? Anywhere from Carmen relaxed to inspired
and creative, and the that gives us a really good
understanding of how your home needs to be right, Like,
if you have a really demanding job and it's full
(15:08):
on and you're surrounded by lots of furniture and art
and color every day, maybe that gives you energy and
you want that in the home, or maybe you want
to come home and have a blank yeh slate. And
the only way we're going to be able to design
a home that works really well for you is getting
inside your mind and understanding, because there's so many different
(15:29):
ways to take it for different reasons. Other things like
if you had the house to yourself for a weekend,
the family's out, phones on, do not disturb. Tell me
in a by minute if you want what you're doing
is it? And be honest with me, like is it
lying on the couch and binge tortching Reality TV for
(15:49):
an entire one of those days?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Like tell me that as I need to know, Yes,
it is, yes, champagne and hand Actually not the couch.
I'd probably be in bed.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
See exactly. And then I'm like got it, Yeah, I
know exactly what we need. So it's those sort of
questions that really allow us to create super personal and yeah,
exciting into like how good is that you're going to
live in this house for however many years and it
is set up for your exact dream routine. Makes it
easier for you to achieve that routine and more frictionless. Yeah,
(16:20):
that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm breaking the rules. I always used to live by
the rule of never have a TV in your bedroom,
but then I had a baby and thought, well, actually
it might be nice to have a TV in the bedroom.
Best thing I've ever done, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I love it. And the way that you're speaking about
Like we're just talking about a TV, right, but it's
not about being a TV. It's about the moment that
that gives you. Whether it's I don't know, if it's
when you're breastfeeding or it's when you're trying to wind out,
I don't know, but that has created such a positive
impact in just a mundane day.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Exactly. Yes, even now that he's older, my husband, the
boys are downstairs watching sport and I'm upstairs watching.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
With a glass of champagne. Can you invite me over?
That's exactly what I want.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So if you had to be your own client, knowing
you're moving into a new home, what would you ask yourself?
What are your rituals that you need day to day
that maybe you were missing in your previous home.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I know, firstly terrifying thought me being my own client.
I have too many ideas and opinions. But I also
like to sometimes take risks in my home that I
would be too scared to take for a client, Like
I'm willing to sacrifice myself, you know, I know, I know,
and then sometimes I regret it, Like sometimes I do
and I'm like, oh, okay, cool, that didn't work. But
I wake up my phones not next to my bed
(17:40):
because I haven't doom scrolled on it the night before. Yeah,
because I've got where do you keep it? Well, currently
in the bathroom or on my husband's side of the
bed because he will like slap it out of my hand.
It's in the bathroom because then I can still hear
my alarm getting out of bed. Making the bed. That's
something that is again one of those very very small
(18:03):
and seemingly mundane items that you're making the bed now
in the morning, even if maybe you're running late, But
then when you get home, you just thank yourself a
thousand times. So you know, that is such a mundane
piece of a morning routine puzzle, but.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
If you can do it, that's right. I have to
be honest, I don't do it every day these days.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know you STU getting a little picked exactly. And
then if you did do it, I guarantee you walk
into your room and be like, thank you Elle, thank
you morning, Elle for doing that, because now I feel lovely.
So up straight into the bathroom, have it, you know,
gorgeous shower skincare routine, which again could be as easy
as hard as you make it, based on how you've
(18:42):
set up your bathroom counter.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yes, and products on the counter or products in the cupboard.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Luckily, where we've just moved, I have the most fabulous,
enormous vanity shaving cabinet mirrored, so I think I'll be
able to put everything in there, which is just very
exciting for me to open it and see all my
skin care make shopping. Yeah, like a little magpie. So
that would be that. And then you know, downstairs again
a really crucial part of a morning routine that sounds mundane,
(19:09):
but it's like how many steps are you taking in
the kitchen to get your coffee or your breakfast or
whatever you're doing. So if you're renting, for example, that's
as simple as actually thinking about the location of the
coffee machine on the counter as opposed to where the
cups are. Absolutely, and again this comes back to the
interrogation that I give my clients. Perfect example is one client,
(19:30):
you can't assume everyone drinks coffee, because I have one
client who in the morning, the first thing she does
is actually drink bone broth. And if we just assumed
everyone woke up to a tea or coffee, that's how
wrong would that frictionless step be. So knowing those sort
of details is what allows us to do really bespoke
and definitely functional design.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Speaking of functional design, I have a really good tip,
not just for renters, but for anyone who needs to
get more storage out of their overhead cupboards. And you
look inside, most of them have the little drill holes
where you can put more shelves in. There is the
perfect space in the middle that is about mug height.
(20:11):
So if you just get one extra shelf cut and
you can get it for under ten dollars and put
that in, all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You've just unlocked like a whole width of storage exactly. Also,
if there's high there's always a high shelf that you're like, well,
I'm not going to put an everyday stuff on there
because I can't really reach it. So I recommend getting
baskets up there because then at least you could grabbing
a basket and pulling, Oh, go down.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I love a basket.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Love a basket.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Timeless, they are what does timeless mean to you?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Timeless to me is number one quality, and secondarily, things
that you love and you've taken time to collect, or
that really excite you, even if they're not of the moment,
that actually is completely irrelevant if you love it, because
it's going to be timeless in your home exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
How do you give people the confidence to trust that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's actually a really good question, because it is difficult
getting people to trust their style. We obviously guide them,
and you know, some people actually truly don't know what
their interiors style is because they've maybe never prioritized it
like they are now, or they've never had the money
(21:26):
to think about it. But I think the confidence comes
from number One. You can see when someone's eyes light
up about something and I actually relay back to them, Well,
when I showed you that sample as opposed to this sample,
your reaction was far more like, you seemed really excited
about this one, even if it was an option they
didn't think they would like. And then they do go, yeah,
(21:48):
I was, I really liked it. What do you like
about it? Or on the reverse side, like what don't
you like about it? You know, I've just come from
a client meeting this morning where the paint started going
on and the client called me saying like, this is
too dark. I'm freaking out. It's okay, let's meet on site.
And after a conversation he's and you know, explaining things
he didn't like the color. That's fine, like, that's we
(22:09):
need you to like it, right, So it's like and
then after the conversation he, you know, between myself and
the builder telling him what it might look like, he
started to second guess himself and he's like, well, maybe
we just leave it, And I said, no, trust your instincts.
Your instincts were I don't like it, and so that's okay,
and trust so trust your instincts. As soon as you
say someone trust your instincts, then they can go, yeah,
(22:31):
I did like that one. I really did like one
or I'm still thinking about that, so it's okay, there
we go. So I think it's trust building with me.
They trust me to encourage them. I think it's important.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm finding free, so encouraging. And she's about to share
with us why you should be designed for your forever
home right now. Plus she answers a listener dilemma on
how to debage a rental. We have a listener dilemma.
(23:07):
So people write to us here at the Edit because
they know we have such great guests on with their expertise,
and this question is perfect for you to so we'll
hopefully answer it together. So it's from desperate to debage.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I love it already, Yeah yep.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And the question is, dear the Edit, do I buy
for now or forever? So I'm renting in a city
where I could be asked to move with barely any notice.
Oh we know what that's like. Yes, but I'm craving
a home that feels more considered than a patchwork of
flat pack. I want bold furniture, maybe a custom shelf
(23:45):
that actually fits my books, and pieces that support the
way I live, where I drop my bag, how I
work from home, my nightly wind down but I keep
talking myself out of it, because what if the next
place has a totally different layout. I end up buying safe,
generic pieces that work everywhere but don't really feel like
me anywhere. So how do I decide when to invest
(24:08):
an expressive, ritual friendly furniture and when to stick to
flexible basics. I don't want to wait for the hypothetic
or forever home to start living like I deserve one.
Oh that's beautiful. So Signs don't have a home energy
short term lease.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
So we don't have an action name, but iconic I
completely understand, and I think again, it's so funny. I
was just talking about trusting myself because I think if
this listener reads that that or just listen to that bag,
that is about trusting yourself. It is. It's like the
head and the heart situation, right. I think that to me,
(24:45):
it is invaluable to be in love with and at
one with the space that you live in. It's so
important to recharge. So from my point of view, you know, talking,
will it be the right sign or layout for the
next place? If you truly love items, I actually think
(25:05):
nine times out of ten you'll make it work. I'm
a great case study because where we just moved to
it's tighter in terms of a layout than the open
plan situation. So I did have to sell some bits
and pieces. I'm okay with that because I bought pieces
I loved, I enjoyed them while I had them, and
because they were beautiful pieces, I was able to sell
(25:27):
them and not lose a great deal of money for example.
So the flip side to that is you purchase flat
pack which you're bored by, you don't feel inspired or
excited by, and then if that's wrong for the next place,
we're not selling that. You know, I think it's nice
to be able to when you're buying these pieces, it
means something to you. Again, you put energy into those
pieces and then you sell them on I love the
(25:49):
idea of that. So I'm always an advocate for decorating
like it's the Forever home dm me on Instagram. I'll
give you some tips because I'm obsessed with this question
because it's so real. It absolutely is, It really is,
and it's so important to me that people are excited, inspired,
comfortable in love with where they live. Go for your life,
(26:09):
full permission from me.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
So Bria, as someone who works in interior design, where
do you go for your inspiration?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I search far and wide. I think that I try
specifically to cast a wide net, like I specifically don't
look at interiors for inspiration. So again, like we touched
on before, it's fashion, it's often travel. It's even a
lot of times if I'm just stuck on something like
for example, was trying to design a custom bedside the
(26:39):
other day and I just picked up a coffee table
book and flicked through and it's just like a shape
of something, Yeah, a shape of a flower. Like you know,
it's that sort of getting in that creative mindset and
kind of almost looking or just seeing what will unfold.
And even if it's a really silly idea at the time,
it usually builds, you know, Like I think you can
(26:59):
start with ten percent of an idea. It's just something
that sparks, and then you can go from there. But
in terms of people designers that are inspiring, I mean
obviously our Lord and Savior, Kelly Wursler. I know that's
pretty basic answer. But Icon and Icon she's brave, Yes,
she's brave. She plays with materials in a very curious way.
(27:21):
Locally Flack David Flack. I love the way he again
works with material, palette, scale, all that sort of thing.
And then honestly, I'm lucky enough to go to a
lot of industry events, and every time I go there
and I meet my peers, you know, like another designs
to your owner or whatever, the conversations we have are
so good. We have the best local industry here.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like, what do you talk about like designers talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
When it's like, oh, how do you do this? Or
I'm having trouble with you know this in my business?
How do you do you know? I find that I
get a lot of inspiration from other interior designers who
own businesses, who so sometimes have decades more experience than me.
Sometimes you're at the same stage and it's just really
really inspiring.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Trading story, Yes, that's a great way to put it,
trading stories. So you are, oh, say it had a
social media sensation?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
My goodness, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Do you look at other accounts? Do you doom scroll
or do you pick up inspiration online?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I do doom scroll, yeah, unfortunately scroll, Oh my god,
all sorts of things. Right now, I'm on food TikTok,
like you know, I'm just like in a bit of
a cooking era at the moment. So that's yeah. I
do find that I look at again, not necessarily other
interior design accounts. Sometimes yes, but sometimes it's more like
(28:43):
I get inspiration from creativity through social media. Sometimes it's interiors.
Sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Beyond the literal.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think you summed that up really well when you're
talking about seeing inspiration in travel or nature. And I
can get inspired being in the art gallery and people think, oh, yeah, well,
you know art and a home, But actually maybe it's
the frame I'm looking at absolutely, and maybe it's the
colors of the frame with the mat and that could
work really well as a room scheme. Yes, it is
(29:16):
looking beyond the literal.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And it's being very curious. Yeah, and again like childlike,
like don't take something literally, really get in there, get
up close, scavenge around, have a look and be curious,
like what is that that looks like leather? But actually
what is that? What does that color palette? Take a
close up photo and then you've just got that palette
on your phone. Yeah, things like that I think are
(29:39):
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Where is the whimsy?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Where is the whimsy? That's right, you can find the
whimsy anyway, you just have to be looking for it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
A lot of younger people are, for example, on TikTok
looking for homes inspiration, interior design and homemaker inspiration. What
does homemaker mean to you, because it's quite different now.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think immediately when I think traditional old school homemaker,
I think about that being predominantly a woman who probably
spends the day in the home and so she has
time to perfect a hospital corner on a bed and
you set the table properly every day like there's time
(30:20):
because that's dedicated days. Probably was rearing children at the
same time, but still it's in the home these days.
Homemaker could be someone that's not in the interior's industry.
They love their home and they want it to look beautiful,
but they also have a full time job, but they
love hosting their friends. So to me, it's very dynamic.
(30:41):
What is a homemaker. Homemaker is someone who cares about
their home and perhaps they're trying to learn tips, tricks,
ways to make their home experience better because they have
a genuine interest in it. And it's probably someone who
maybe they do work in the industry. But Australians are
(31:02):
so interested in home now we invest so much in it.
We care a lot, we spend. Like, if you're working
from home, you're still in the home all day even
though you're doing other things. So I think the modern
homemaker is a hybrid. They're doing other things, they don't
have all day to be homemaking. Yeah, so they're prioritizing
what's important to them, whether it be time, money, effort,
(31:25):
and that's where their energy is going in their homemaking.
You know, if they don't cook, maybe they've got an
empty fridge. But guess what the coffee table is styled
to confection Like. It's just about what prioritizing what's important.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Okay, we have some quick fire questions, so answer as
quickly and honestly as you like. Elaborate if you want.
But the first question I have is in your home
shoes on or off? And what does that rule say
about you?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, I'll give you a hot take. I don't care.
And what that says about me is I'm quite type B. Actually, no,
I often find myself if I'm trying to be productive
in the home, this is so niche, But you are,
I'm trying to be productive in the home shoes on? Okay,
I'm working from home, shoes must be on serious, very sious.
(32:18):
If I'm work cleaning socks and slippers, right, if I'm relaxing,
shoes off. If someone walks into my home and keeps
their shoes on, I really don't mind. So I mean,
if you walk in disgusting, dirty work boots, I'm probably
going to say, could you take your shoes off? You
know my girlfriends, My girlfriends come over for cocktail hour
and the shoes are part of an outfit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Farbe for me to tell them to take it off.
You know what I mean exactly? I'm getting carry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, you've worn those shoes to my house too, because
you know I like fashion. I'm not telling you to
take them off. Walk around right.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Next question is matching towels or collected over time? And
are you full hotel style or do you like more
of for livedin Leamon covered.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, so this goes against usually everything else I'm about,
But I am a matching tower girl, and I think
that's because I find that often if you're renting per se,
I mean, if you're renting specifically you know in Sydney,
very very lucky. If you've got a gorgeous bathroom. That's true,
So I like to feel a bit more put together.
(33:23):
You know, the last couple of homes we've had have
been beautiful homes, but they've been dull or dated or
just boring bathrooms. So for some reason, to me in
this specific area, I love a matching set because it
makes it feel more elevated to me. Perhaps, if I,
you know, was in my dream designed bathroom that I'd
done inch by inch, maybe mismatched would make sense. But
(33:48):
to me, I really do love matching, which is not
my usual tape.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Do you wonogram love a monogram?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
For my first Valentine's Day with my husband, we were
like seeing each other. I got a monogrammed pillowcases with
our initials. You would have thought I was very keen.
They've since been thrown out. This is like ten years ago.
But now I love a monograph. I think it's fun.
I think too much monogram gets a bit crazy, but
I think it's fun, it's chic, and people would like
(34:18):
to put their personal touch on things. I'm never going
to say no to that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So speaking of maybe too much of a good thing
down lights, oh yep, everywhere you sparingly, not at all.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
No, No, they have a place, definitely, definitely not everywhere,
they have their place. But usually they're a directional downlight,
so if you want to change the angle of them,
you can. If you want to highlight a piece of
art something like that. There's also smaller spotlights. You know.
Task lighting in task areas are very important. Sometimes the
(34:51):
humble downlight is the best solution. Yes, elsewhere in the home,
absolutely anything but a down line. So I say to
my this is what I say to clients. I'm like,
you are going to be shocked by how detailed what
you would probably assume just your standard ceiling lights are
because there's a real science to lighting a space properly,
(35:13):
and downlights are important in some cases. They don't work everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I agree, I went crazy with a lighting plan with
the electrocis.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But to be honest, I rarely use the downlind exactly. Yeah,
it's everything else, sure, yep.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Downlights are just for cleaning mode or to task like
if you need to be really focusing on the kitchen
count or something like that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Absolutely. Next question, is TVs a focal point in the
living room or absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Not ideally, absolutely not. Like ideally we'd all have this
wonderful piece of custom joinery in the home that could
conceal the TV behind, you know, some chek panels or something.
But realistically they will be out in a focal point
for most people, including myself. And that's why I think
the art TVs that we're seeing now are really really good,
(36:09):
because instead of having a black box on the wall,
you can at least have something that you've tailored a
little bit to this space. I also think if you
can't avoid it being a focal point, you can position
seating so it's conversational and not all facing that TV.
That does help in the grand scale of how you
take in a room as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So when it comes to positioning the TV. I years
ago lived an apartment where the TV outlet was in
a position where you could see it banks straight on
as soon as you walked in. But I hated it.
It was awful. So we got some extra long cables
and just put them around the room and move the TV.
(36:47):
It was quite easy to do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Very easy to do, and again that was you knowing
how you wanted to live, right, So if you're trying
to watch less TV. Or you don't want family time
revolving around the TV, then exactly, that's exactly what you
do if you've got the means and the flexibility in
your home. I think the more discrete the better, as
long as it's still functional. But you know, having said
(37:10):
that our new place, the one bane of my existence
is how indiscreet to the TV is? I said it
to my husband. So this looks ridiculous, but you know,
we have to make compromise often unless you've got the
means to be designing a dream home from scratch, which
is absolutely wonderful, but that's not where the majority of
us are going to be right this second. So we've
(37:30):
got to work with what we can.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Definitely, I like this question, what is one thing that
you wish people would stop doing in Australian homes, either
architecturally or decoratively.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh my gosh, Okay, I need to tread carefully here.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So I know I'm not trying to be controversial.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think if I had the first thing that comes
to mind, which is what this is all about, right,
the rapid fire is innovating or making decisions based on
what you believe will help resale, because often that's the
most boring or white solution, and as discussed, Australians at
this point are generally smarter than that, and they're generally
(38:15):
asking for more. If something's been beautifully designed and it's
unique and it's special, it's going to appeal maybe to
a smaller amount of people, but people are going to
get emotional about it. And I sound like real estate agent,
can you tell me? And that's where if you're really
(38:35):
really concerned about resale and getting you know, this magical
premium price, then don't want people getting excited and emotional
about the home instead of just You've gone to six
open homes on a Saturday and they're all blending into
one because they were all white.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Do you want to remember, oh the yellow one?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, that's right. Oh my god, I loved the stone
in that bathroom. It can be simple as that. Yes,
we can't stop thinking about it. So I think it's that,
and it's doing what you think you should do instead
of again trusting your instincts.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
So moving into a new home, here's our signature question.
What will make your home beautiful?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Authenticity? I think filling it with things that we care about,
that are meaningful and doing so over time, you know,
like and particularly with decorative items, you can absolutely tell
when you walk into someone's home and every piece is
(39:33):
meaningful as opposed to they've gone out one Saturday and
panic purchased all of their decor. So I think a
home is beautiful when you get the spirit of the
people that live in it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, I can't wait to see the spirit of you
in your new home.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
If you're sharing that, I will. I will. It's going
to be a slow process again, because I like to
take my time and get the right thing. I'd rather
have an empty shelf, for example, and collect over time.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Brie.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's been so gorgeous having you here at the edit today,
and I can't wait to have you back.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Thank you so much. I have absolutely loved this conversation.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I loved hearing about all the different rituals that Bree has.
I mean wearing shoes at home to signify your working,
and her slippers when she's cleaning. I think I might
adopt that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Rie.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Thank you for reminding us that the most timeless interiors,
they're not the ones that win on Pinterest. They're the
ones that look after the people who live there and
just make the everyday easy. If today's conversation nudgs you
to move a lamp, or repaint a wall, or just
to admit what colors you actually love, we'd really like
(40:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What does homemaker mean to you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
They love their home and they want it to look beautiful,
but they also have a full time job. But they
love hosting their friends, and perhaps they're trying to learn tips, tricks,
ways to make their home experience better because they have
a genuine interest in it. How I approach and how
I encourage people to approach their rooms and their homes
(00:32):
is with that patience and play and layering.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I have a confession to make. I don't always make
my bed, and I know that I should be the
editor of an interior design brand, but I just don't.
And I think many of us have these shortcuts just
to get through the day with as little friction as possible.
Today's guest is interior designer and creator Brilliant Turtin, and
(01:02):
she's sharing her perspective on why interior design and styling
it's not just about creating a beautiful home, but it's
about making every day easy. She treats interior styling like
getting dressed. It's playful, it's changeable, and it's responsive to
how you feel that day. I'll say specially in the
(01:23):
non permanent final layer of a room. Plus she has
got the best tip I've ever heard on how to
host beautifully enjoy free. Welcome to the edit. It's lovely to.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Have you here. Thank you so much, el I am
so pumped to be here. Oh me too.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I was getting dressed this morning and I was thinking
about today and what we'll chat about. And I've just
brought a new handbag and love it. I just love
a handbag and the color is ox blood, which I'm
obsessed with. And I was like around my home thinking,
I really do decorate the way I dress because I've
(02:05):
just got out the autumn cushions and they're all in
the same colors, rich rusts and reds. And then I
realize I've got a bit of a problem because I
do have seasonal cushions.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So I'll go through.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've got the winter set and the spring set, the summer,
and I'm not richid about it. I do mix them up.
But talk to me about you and fashion and interiors.
Do you do the same?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh You've started me on something I could talk about
all day. So that was your mistake. I love fashion
and I obviously love interiors as well, and I do
approach styling my outfit like I do a home. And
what I'm wearing today is a great example because tylo,
it's old, it's new, it's like scavenged in thrift stores.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Like this blazes my husband, is that a seersucker, because
oh my god, he's going to be so impressed in
you that it is a seersucker. It's a beautiful brow
see a sucker for anyone who's listening and can't see
it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yes, that's a men's men's blazer and like a little
bit of texture going on, almost to the point where
it's a pattern. Blouse is thrifted jeans, a new bit
of denim, but like a twist on denim, you know,
like anytime I do share the twist. So it's like
an open embroidered pattern in these geens, mixed metal jewelry
(03:23):
from everywhere like auction, gift paris, you know, like I
just really like collecting things. I think that excites me.
And that's exactly how I approach and how I encourage
people to approach their rooms and their homes is with
that patience and play and layering.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So do you mix up your interiors because I've seen
pictures and I absolutely love what you do. You've got
their screen in your home, Explain what does that look like?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So it's this beautiful vintage six panel hand patent screen
and we're renting. So, as you can imagine, I was
unbelievably bored by not being able to control the walls
and stuff like that. I've got a pretty nice art
collection with really large pieces, so that's helpful. But that
was just a piece that I thought, I can move
(04:16):
this around. It can be as you know, you can
spread out the screen, make it as long as you want,
you can make it more compact. So that was kind
of my little way to control my environment. Particularly we're
living in open plans, so I mean, I guess that's
exactly what those room dividers are for, right to divide
the room. So that's a really fun styling, larger styling
(04:38):
piece that I have, particularly in a rental.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Absolutely what else have you done in your rental to
personalize it?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, I mean, I'm married to a real estate agent,
I'm an interior designer, so we do kind of make
decisions and ask for forgiveness later. So we do, you know,
we do hang out on the walls, we do mount
our TV, and I know people for good reason have
reservations because I don't want get trouble.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But if anyone knows how to fix it back, you
just put that into the eye.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Chalk that up to being absolutely a worthwhile investment. You know,
if you're going to live in a place for a year,
two years, three years, you have the art on the walls,
so you just pay a professional to patch it up
when you leave.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I love those tips for personalizing your rental. Why
don't you take us on a tour of that place?
So this is the one with the It's got a
big staircare.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's kind of like a loft, sort of a closed
loft situation. Double height ceilings, which obviously starts you off
on the right foot in terms of scale and natural light.
Lucky enough to have draperies that are full height, which
is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Do you see these from the front door? So if
I'm coming over and you open the door, what's the
first thing I'd see?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh? You see this expansive open plan room, double height
glazing with the curtains so beautiful. You kind of walk
into the living room and then the little dining areas
just off to the left.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, and your dining area with those chairs?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Aren't they good?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Explain? What are they?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Where?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
To define them?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One of my past times is really digging deep for vintage,
Like it's almost like I just get locked in and
I can spend hours, whether it's in person, in a
dusty store or online.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's addictive.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's addictive and it's so satisfying. So originally I had
purchased four dining chairs from Soft Focus House, which is
a gorgeous little curated vintage person in Victoria. They were wonderful,
but there was only four of them, and I should
take my own advice because I knew I needed dining
chairs that were going to tuck because there wasn't too
much space. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Not everyone thinks about that, and.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I knew it, but I just love these chairs so
much about them anyway, So sure enough, six months later,
I'm like, number one, we need six chairs, and number two,
it'd be really fantastic if they talk. So I sold those,
and then I found these beautiful nineteen seventies again with
the chrome leg and a beautiful green pattern original upholstery,
which is what really made me fall in love. It
(07:03):
wasn't quite the color I was looking for, but again
That's where I think play and creativity is really important
because to have the original nineteen seventies upholstery, it is
pretty special. That in itself is going to bring an
energy into the space exactly. So they're gorgeous. Eight of those.
Adore them.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What do you say to people who might think, oh,
but maybe it's a bit worn or it's got some
marks on it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How do you live with that? Yeah? Well, you know,
some people can't write. Like We've got clients that I
know can't live with that. They will really bug them.
So that's just something that if you know that of yourself,
don't try because it's going to But most people, I
think when they know the origin, the story and the
(07:49):
pieces mean something, it brings it. It brings that sort
of old soul. So I, for example, am absolutely fine.
In many cases is preferable because you can see it's
lived alive and it's similar. This might be a long
bow job, but almost talking to clients about their kitchens
and we're talking natural stone or engineered. Many clients understand
(08:11):
that natural stone will over time show marks and imperfections,
but that's showing the life that's happened in the home.
And some clients just want a really neat, tidy.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, So it's just about knowing how you want to
live in your home, and that's how you can make
those decisions. What's up the staircase bedroom and a little
on suite. Yeah, nothing really too exciting up there. I
did get a king bed that was far too big
for the space, but that was a call that I
knew I was making, knowing it was a rental. You know,
it's like you just what you want, right, Yes, that's right.
(08:43):
So upstairs is probably the least interesting part of the house,
just to compact neat and tidy little bedroom and a tiny, tiny,
little and suite. All the fun stuff is down in
the main area. I see.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And now the reason I wanted to ask about this
place is because that is the home that's on your
socials and we've all seen it. But actually, plot twist,
you've moved.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We just moved this week. Yes, and it's going to
be really interesting getting settled into this new house because
it's going to be a lot tougher to decorate the land.
The ceilings are lower, it gets less natural light. There's
a few kind of pokey little bulkheads is only one
place for the TV like, it's just there's going to
(09:27):
be a few more challenges, which is exciting. I'm excited
to do it. So what was it about this place? Well,
it's got a gorgeous courtyard, like a big, expansive courtyard.
We have a very large, active, little dog, so we
knew how much he was going to love that. But
also we love posting family and friends, and I just
think that having a courtyard that can fit, that feels
(09:48):
good to be and can fit like a big lounge
and a big dining table, that is really exciting to us,
having the barbecue, that sort of feeling. And I also
fell in love with the bedroom in this place, which
is so interesting because I think the place we're just
talking about, the bedroom was not the most exciting part
in this one. We have this huge bedroom, it gets
the most incredible natural light. There's this big magnolia tree
(10:10):
out right in front of it, so it's just really
special feeling in the bedroom. It's really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So then do you choose a home based on a
feeling as much as practicalities, Because like you said, you're
an interior designer, your husband's in real estate. That would
make for it. I don't know an easier search for
a home or a trickier one both. I think it's
when we're looking, you know. He unfortunately, you know, he
(10:36):
is the expert. So a lot of the time the
actual house comes down to him.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, I might say, what about this area, and
he's as specific as if we're going to go to
this suburb, I think we should be on this street,
this street or this street. Right, So it certainly does
so he's the captain of that. And then really, I
guess the final call is with me based on, like
you said, the function and the feeling. What can you
(11:01):
do with it? That's right, But I mean we used
to butt heads a little bit at the start because
of course we both have serious opinions because it's both
of our jobs, right, But we both now come to
the conclusion to let the other one be the expert
in the field. So he'll generally find the place or
the short list of places, and then the furniture and
(11:22):
the actual Is this going to work?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, is kind of up to me now, which is nice.
Something like he of course has opinions, and I say,
how seriously would you like to hold this opinion? Generally.
That's it's how we worked out works really well. That
is tricky.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, my husband works in a gym, so if
he has opinions about the home, I.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, so that's how it works.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Now, you were saying that you chose this place, one
of the reasons was the courtyard and the entertaining space.
I've seen some of your entertaining tips, and the one
that I love the most is if you're having people over,
always start with an empty dishwasher and an empty bin. Yes,
that is the best, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I hate to say, and she's absolutely going to
listen to this podcast because she's a great hype girl
of mine. I actually got that dishwasher tip from one
of my best friends, Georgia. Oh thanks Georgia, I know,
and I'm like so annoyed that it's not my tip,
but she.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Told years ago, and it's a given credit good.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's so good. The bin is something I tacked on,
you know, obviously, but it's such a game changer. Honestly,
it's like this most simple thing you would never think of,
especially if you're in a flurry, you know, but it's
it makes your life so much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Easier, definitely, and particularly if you have an open plan.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh my gosh, I planned kitchen.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's right, You've got people over and you can just
put everything away away.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But also like then you don't have to be standing
there hurriedly unpacking the dishwasher, trying to put it and
just missing out on the fun. Right, That's what I
hate when people lock themselves away in the kitchen and
work so hard while they're entertaining. So you should be
out there and enjoying yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So talking about fun, you are on whimsy. Yes, what
does whimsy mean to you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
If you want to boil it right down, it's creating
spaces that really bring out Again, I keep using the
word playfulness and just rest because I think that life, work,
all of that has gotten a lot more chaotic and
demanding for most people. We're out of the house for
(13:25):
longer than we were, and even if you're working from home,
you're still working a full day. So whimsy to me
is essentially decorating and living in a way that makes
you really happy, like really happy, childlife happy. You know,
it looks a little bit different to everyone, but generally
it's unconventional, perhaps like if you were decorating in whimsy,
(13:49):
I might walk in and think it's not for me.
And if I decorate in whimsy, you might walk in
and think not quite for you. And that's exactly what
it should be. It should not appeal to everybody, should
be inherently you. And it's just about not taking it
so seriously.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think it's interesting that you're saying this because we
had Greg Natali in here on the edit a little
while back, and he was saying that these days interior
design is taken too seriously. Yes, and I love that
you are making it more playful. How do you do that?
For clients?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It really starts with what I like to call an interrogation.
We really ask them so many personal questions. I warned
them upfront us it's like, well, ask you questions that
you will be thinking on earth does she need to
know this? But so, what would you ask me? One
of the most basic ones that we start with. We've
got a list of descriptive words, and I'll say, well,
(14:46):
here's eight words. Choose as many as you want, but
really think about it. How do you want your home
to make you feel? Anywhere from Carmen relaxed to inspired
and creative, and the that gives us a really good
understanding of how your home needs to be right, Like,
if you have a really demanding job and it's full
(15:08):
on and you're surrounded by lots of furniture and art
and color every day, maybe that gives you energy and
you want that in the home, or maybe you want
to come home and have a blank yeh slate. And
the only way we're going to be able to design
a home that works really well for you is getting
inside your mind and understanding, because there's so many different
(15:29):
ways to take it for different reasons. Other things like
if you had the house to yourself for a weekend,
the family's out, phones on, do not disturb. Tell me
in a by minute if you want what you're doing
is it? And be honest with me, like is it
lying on the couch and binge tortching Reality TV for
(15:49):
an entire one of those days?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Like tell me that as I need to know, Yes,
it is, yes, champagne and hand Actually not the couch.
I'd probably be in bed.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
See exactly. And then I'm like got it, Yeah, I
know exactly what we need. So it's those sort of
questions that really allow us to create super personal and yeah,
exciting into like how good is that you're going to
live in this house for however many years and it
is set up for your exact dream routine. Makes it
easier for you to achieve that routine and more frictionless. Yeah,
(16:20):
that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm breaking the rules. I always used to live by
the rule of never have a TV in your bedroom,
but then I had a baby and thought, well, actually
it might be nice to have a TV in the bedroom.
Best thing I've ever done, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I love it. And the way that you're speaking about
Like we're just talking about a TV, right, but it's
not about being a TV. It's about the moment that
that gives you. Whether it's I don't know, if it's
when you're breastfeeding or it's when you're trying to wind out,
I don't know, but that has created such a positive
impact in just a mundane day.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Exactly. Yes, even now that he's older, my husband, the
boys are downstairs watching sport and I'm upstairs watching.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
With a glass of champagne. Can you invite me over?
That's exactly what I want.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So if you had to be your own client, knowing
you're moving into a new home, what would you ask yourself?
What are your rituals that you need day to day
that maybe you were missing in your previous home.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I know, firstly terrifying thought me being my own client.
I have too many ideas and opinions. But I also
like to sometimes take risks in my home that I
would be too scared to take for a client, Like
I'm willing to sacrifice myself, you know, I know, I know,
and then sometimes I regret it, Like sometimes I do
and I'm like, oh, okay, cool, that didn't work. But
I wake up my phones not next to my bed
(17:40):
because I haven't doom scrolled on it the night before. Yeah,
because I've got where do you keep it? Well, currently
in the bathroom or on my husband's side of the
bed because he will like slap it out of my hand.
It's in the bathroom because then I can still hear
my alarm getting out of bed. Making the bed. That's
something that is again one of those very very small
(18:03):
and seemingly mundane items that you're making the bed now
in the morning, even if maybe you're running late, But
then when you get home, you just thank yourself a
thousand times. So you know, that is such a mundane
piece of a morning routine puzzle, but.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
If you can do it, that's right. I have to
be honest, I don't do it every day these days.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know you STU getting a little picked exactly. And
then if you did do it, I guarantee you walk
into your room and be like, thank you Elle, thank
you morning, Elle for doing that, because now I feel lovely.
So up straight into the bathroom, have it, you know,
gorgeous shower skincare routine, which again could be as easy
as hard as you make it, based on how you've
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set up your bathroom counter.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yes, and products on the counter or products in the cupboard.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Luckily, where we've just moved, I have the most fabulous,
enormous vanity shaving cabinet mirrored, so I think I'll be
able to put everything in there, which is just very
exciting for me to open it and see all my
skin care make shopping. Yeah, like a little magpie. So
that would be that. And then you know, downstairs again
a really crucial part of a morning routine that sounds mundane,
(19:09):
but it's like how many steps are you taking in
the kitchen to get your coffee or your breakfast or
whatever you're doing. So if you're renting, for example, that's
as simple as actually thinking about the location of the
coffee machine on the counter as opposed to where the
cups are. Absolutely, and again this comes back to the
interrogation that I give my clients. Perfect example is one client,
(19:30):
you can't assume everyone drinks coffee, because I have one
client who in the morning, the first thing she does
is actually drink bone broth. And if we just assumed
everyone woke up to a tea or coffee, that's how
wrong would that frictionless step be. So knowing those sort
of details is what allows us to do really bespoke
and definitely functional design.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Speaking of functional design, I have a really good tip,
not just for renters, but for anyone who needs to
get more storage out of their overhead cupboards. And you
look inside, most of them have the little drill holes
where you can put more shelves in. There is the
perfect space in the middle that is about mug height.
(20:11):
So if you just get one extra shelf cut and
you can get it for under ten dollars and put
that in, all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You've just unlocked like a whole width of storage exactly. Also,
if there's high there's always a high shelf that you're like, well,
I'm not going to put an everyday stuff on there
because I can't really reach it. So I recommend getting
baskets up there because then at least you could grabbing
a basket and pulling, Oh, go down.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I love a basket.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Love a basket.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Timeless, they are what does timeless mean to you?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Timeless to me is number one quality, and secondarily, things
that you love and you've taken time to collect, or
that really excite you, even if they're not of the moment,
that actually is completely irrelevant if you love it, because
it's going to be timeless in your home exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
How do you give people the confidence to trust that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's actually a really good question, because it is difficult
getting people to trust their style. We obviously guide them,
and you know, some people actually truly don't know what
their interiors style is because they've maybe never prioritized it
like they are now, or they've never had the money
(21:26):
to think about it. But I think the confidence comes
from number One. You can see when someone's eyes light
up about something and I actually relay back to them, Well,
when I showed you that sample as opposed to this sample,
your reaction was far more like, you seemed really excited
about this one, even if it was an option they
didn't think they would like. And then they do go, yeah,
(21:48):
I was, I really liked it. What do you like
about it? Or on the reverse side, like what don't
you like about it? You know, I've just come from
a client meeting this morning where the paint started going
on and the client called me saying like, this is
too dark. I'm freaking out. It's okay, let's meet on site.
And after a conversation he's and you know, explaining things
he didn't like the color. That's fine, like, that's we
(22:09):
need you to like it, right, So it's like and
then after the conversation he, you know, between myself and
the builder telling him what it might look like, he
started to second guess himself and he's like, well, maybe
we just leave it, And I said, no, trust your instincts.
Your instincts were I don't like it, and so that's okay,
and trust so trust your instincts. As soon as you
say someone trust your instincts, then they can go, yeah,
(22:31):
I did like that one. I really did like one
or I'm still thinking about that, so it's okay, there
we go. So I think it's trust building with me.
They trust me to encourage them. I think it's important.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm finding free, so encouraging. And she's about to share
with us why you should be designed for your forever
home right now. Plus she answers a listener dilemma on
how to debage a rental. We have a listener dilemma.
(23:07):
So people write to us here at the Edit because
they know we have such great guests on with their expertise,
and this question is perfect for you to so we'll
hopefully answer it together. So it's from desperate to debage.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I love it already, Yeah yep.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And the question is, dear the Edit, do I buy
for now or forever? So I'm renting in a city
where I could be asked to move with barely any notice.
Oh we know what that's like. Yes, but I'm craving
a home that feels more considered than a patchwork of
flat pack. I want bold furniture, maybe a custom shelf
(23:45):
that actually fits my books, and pieces that support the
way I live, where I drop my bag, how I
work from home, my nightly wind down but I keep
talking myself out of it, because what if the next
place has a totally different layout. I end up buying safe,
generic pieces that work everywhere but don't really feel like
me anywhere. So how do I decide when to invest
(24:08):
an expressive, ritual friendly furniture and when to stick to
flexible basics. I don't want to wait for the hypothetic
or forever home to start living like I deserve one.
Oh that's beautiful. So Signs don't have a home energy
short term lease.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
So we don't have an action name, but iconic I
completely understand, and I think again, it's so funny. I
was just talking about trusting myself because I think if
this listener reads that that or just listen to that bag,
that is about trusting yourself. It is. It's like the
head and the heart situation, right. I think that to me,
(24:45):
it is invaluable to be in love with and at
one with the space that you live in. It's so
important to recharge. So from my point of view, you know, talking,
will it be the right sign or layout for the
next place? If you truly love items, I actually think
(25:05):
nine times out of ten you'll make it work. I'm
a great case study because where we just moved to
it's tighter in terms of a layout than the open
plan situation. So I did have to sell some bits
and pieces. I'm okay with that because I bought pieces
I loved, I enjoyed them while I had them, and
because they were beautiful pieces, I was able to sell
(25:27):
them and not lose a great deal of money for example.
So the flip side to that is you purchase flat
pack which you're bored by, you don't feel inspired or
excited by, and then if that's wrong for the next place,
we're not selling that. You know, I think it's nice
to be able to when you're buying these pieces, it
means something to you. Again, you put energy into those
pieces and then you sell them on I love the
(25:49):
idea of that. So I'm always an advocate for decorating
like it's the Forever home dm me on Instagram. I'll
give you some tips because I'm obsessed with this question
because it's so real. It absolutely is, It really is,
and it's so important to me that people are excited, inspired,
comfortable in love with where they live. Go for your life,
(26:09):
full permission from me.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
So Bria, as someone who works in interior design, where
do you go for your inspiration?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I search far and wide. I think that I try
specifically to cast a wide net, like I specifically don't
look at interiors for inspiration. So again, like we touched
on before, it's fashion, it's often travel. It's even a
lot of times if I'm just stuck on something like
for example, was trying to design a custom bedside the
(26:39):
other day and I just picked up a coffee table
book and flicked through and it's just like a shape
of something, Yeah, a shape of a flower. Like you know,
it's that sort of getting in that creative mindset and
kind of almost looking or just seeing what will unfold.
And even if it's a really silly idea at the time,
it usually builds, you know, Like I think you can
(26:59):
start with ten percent of an idea. It's just something
that sparks, and then you can go from there. But
in terms of people designers that are inspiring, I mean
obviously our Lord and Savior, Kelly Wursler. I know that's
pretty basic answer. But Icon and Icon she's brave, Yes,
she's brave. She plays with materials in a very curious way.
(27:21):
Locally Flack David Flack. I love the way he again
works with material, palette, scale, all that sort of thing.
And then honestly, I'm lucky enough to go to a
lot of industry events, and every time I go there
and I meet my peers, you know, like another designs
to your owner or whatever, the conversations we have are
so good. We have the best local industry here.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like, what do you talk about like designers talk about.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
When it's like, oh, how do you do this? Or
I'm having trouble with you know this in my business?
How do you do you know? I find that I
get a lot of inspiration from other interior designers who
own businesses, who so sometimes have decades more experience than me.
Sometimes you're at the same stage and it's just really
really inspiring.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Trading story, Yes, that's a great way to put it,
trading stories. So you are, oh, say it had a
social media sensation?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
My goodness, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Do you look at other accounts? Do you doom scroll
or do you pick up inspiration online?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I do doom scroll, yeah, unfortunately scroll, Oh my god,
all sorts of things. Right now, I'm on food TikTok,
like you know, I'm just like in a bit of
a cooking era at the moment. So that's yeah. I
do find that I look at again, not necessarily other
interior design accounts. Sometimes yes, but sometimes it's more like
(28:43):
I get inspiration from creativity through social media. Sometimes it's interiors.
Sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Beyond the literal.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think you summed that up really well when you're
talking about seeing inspiration in travel or nature. And I
can get inspired being in the art gallery and people think, oh, yeah, well,
you know art and a home, But actually maybe it's
the frame I'm looking at absolutely, and maybe it's the
colors of the frame with the mat and that could
work really well as a room scheme. Yes, it is
(29:16):
looking beyond the literal.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And it's being very curious. Yeah, and again like childlike,
like don't take something literally, really get in there, get
up close, scavenge around, have a look and be curious,
like what is that that looks like leather? But actually
what is that? What does that color palette? Take a
close up photo and then you've just got that palette
on your phone. Yeah, things like that I think are
(29:39):
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Where is the whimsy?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Where is the whimsy? That's right, you can find the
whimsy anyway, you just have to be looking for it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
A lot of younger people are, for example, on TikTok
looking for homes inspiration, interior design and homemaker inspiration. What
does homemaker mean to you, because it's quite different now.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think immediately when I think traditional old school homemaker,
I think about that being predominantly a woman who probably
spends the day in the home and so she has
time to perfect a hospital corner on a bed and
you set the table properly every day like there's time
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because that's dedicated days. Probably was rearing children at the
same time, but still it's in the home these days.
Homemaker could be someone that's not in the interior's industry.
They love their home and they want it to look beautiful,
but they also have a full time job, but they
love hosting their friends. So to me, it's very dynamic.
(30:41):
What is a homemaker. Homemaker is someone who cares about
their home and perhaps they're trying to learn tips, tricks,
ways to make their home experience better because they have
a genuine interest in it. And it's probably someone who
maybe they do work in the industry. But Australians are
(31:02):
so interested in home now we invest so much in it.
We care a lot, we spend. Like, if you're working
from home, you're still in the home all day even
though you're doing other things. So I think the modern
homemaker is a hybrid. They're doing other things, they don't
have all day to be homemaking. Yeah, so they're prioritizing
what's important to them, whether it be time, money, effort,
(31:25):
and that's where their energy is going in their homemaking.
You know, if they don't cook, maybe they've got an
empty fridge. But guess what the coffee table is styled
to confection Like. It's just about what prioritizing what's important.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Okay, we have some quick fire questions, so answer as
quickly and honestly as you like. Elaborate if you want.
But the first question I have is in your home
shoes on or off? And what does that rule say
about you?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, I'll give you a hot take. I don't care.
And what that says about me is I'm quite type B. Actually, no,
I often find myself if I'm trying to be productive
in the home, this is so niche, But you are,
I'm trying to be productive in the home shoes on? Okay,
I'm working from home, shoes must be on serious, very sious.
(32:18):
If I'm work cleaning socks and slippers, right, if I'm relaxing,
shoes off. If someone walks into my home and keeps
their shoes on, I really don't mind. So I mean,
if you walk in disgusting, dirty work boots, I'm probably
going to say, could you take your shoes off? You
know my girlfriends, My girlfriends come over for cocktail hour
and the shoes are part of an outfit.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Farbe for me to tell them to take it off.
You know what I mean exactly? I'm getting carry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, you've worn those shoes to my house too, because
you know I like fashion. I'm not telling you to
take them off. Walk around right.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Next question is matching towels or collected over time? And
are you full hotel style or do you like more
of for livedin Leamon covered.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, so this goes against usually everything else I'm about,
But I am a matching tower girl, and I think
that's because I find that often if you're renting per se,
I mean, if you're renting specifically you know in Sydney,
very very lucky. If you've got a gorgeous bathroom. That's true,
So I like to feel a bit more put together.
(33:23):
You know, the last couple of homes we've had have
been beautiful homes, but they've been dull or dated or
just boring bathrooms. So for some reason, to me in
this specific area, I love a matching set because it
makes it feel more elevated to me. Perhaps, if I,
you know, was in my dream designed bathroom that I'd
done inch by inch, maybe mismatched would make sense. But
(33:48):
to me, I really do love matching, which is not
my usual tape.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Do you wonogram love a monogram?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
For my first Valentine's Day with my husband, we were
like seeing each other. I got a monogrammed pillowcases with
our initials. You would have thought I was very keen.
They've since been thrown out. This is like ten years ago.
But now I love a monograph. I think it's fun.
I think too much monogram gets a bit crazy, but
I think it's fun, it's chic, and people would like
(34:18):
to put their personal touch on things. I'm never going
to say no to that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
So speaking of maybe too much of a good thing
down lights, oh yep, everywhere you sparingly, not at all.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
No, No, they have a place, definitely, definitely not everywhere,
they have their place. But usually they're a directional downlight,
so if you want to change the angle of them,
you can. If you want to highlight a piece of
art something like that. There's also smaller spotlights. You know.
Task lighting in task areas are very important. Sometimes the
(34:51):
humble downlight is the best solution. Yes, elsewhere in the home,
absolutely anything but a down line. So I say to
my this is what I say to clients. I'm like,
you are going to be shocked by how detailed what
you would probably assume just your standard ceiling lights are
because there's a real science to lighting a space properly,
(35:13):
and downlights are important in some cases. They don't work everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I agree, I went crazy with a lighting plan with
the electrocis.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But to be honest, I rarely use the downlind exactly. Yeah,
it's everything else, sure, yep.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Downlights are just for cleaning mode or to task like
if you need to be really focusing on the kitchen
count or something like that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Absolutely. Next question, is TVs a focal point in the
living room or absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Not ideally, absolutely not. Like ideally we'd all have this
wonderful piece of custom joinery in the home that could
conceal the TV behind, you know, some chek panels or something.
But realistically they will be out in a focal point
for most people, including myself. And that's why I think
the art TVs that we're seeing now are really really good,
(36:09):
because instead of having a black box on the wall,
you can at least have something that you've tailored a
little bit to this space. I also think if you
can't avoid it being a focal point, you can position
seating so it's conversational and not all facing that TV.
That does help in the grand scale of how you
take in a room as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
So when it comes to positioning the TV. I years
ago lived an apartment where the TV outlet was in
a position where you could see it banks straight on
as soon as you walked in. But I hated it.
It was awful. So we got some extra long cables
and just put them around the room and move the TV.
(36:47):
It was quite easy to do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Very easy to do, and again that was you knowing
how you wanted to live, right, So if you're trying
to watch less TV. Or you don't want family time
revolving around the TV, then exactly, that's exactly what you
do if you've got the means and the flexibility in
your home. I think the more discrete the better, as
long as it's still functional. But you know, having said
(37:10):
that our new place, the one bane of my existence
is how indiscreet to the TV is? I said it
to my husband. So this looks ridiculous, but you know,
we have to make compromise often unless you've got the
means to be designing a dream home from scratch, which
is absolutely wonderful, but that's not where the majority of
us are going to be right this second. So we've
(37:30):
got to work with what we can.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Definitely, I like this question, what is one thing that
you wish people would stop doing in Australian homes, either
architecturally or decoratively.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh my gosh, Okay, I need to tread carefully here.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So I know I'm not trying to be controversial.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think if I had the first thing that comes
to mind, which is what this is all about, right,
the rapid fire is innovating or making decisions based on
what you believe will help resale, because often that's the
most boring or white solution, and as discussed, Australians at
this point are generally smarter than that, and they're generally
(38:15):
asking for more. If something's been beautifully designed and it's
unique and it's special, it's going to appeal maybe to
a smaller amount of people, but people are going to
get emotional about it. And I sound like real estate agent,
can you tell me? And that's where if you're really
(38:35):
really concerned about resale and getting you know, this magical
premium price, then don't want people getting excited and emotional
about the home instead of just You've gone to six
open homes on a Saturday and they're all blending into
one because they were all white.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Do you want to remember, oh the yellow one?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, that's right. Oh my god, I loved the stone
in that bathroom. It can be simple as that. Yes,
we can't stop thinking about it. So I think it's that,
and it's doing what you think you should do instead
of again trusting your instincts.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
So moving into a new home, here's our signature question.
What will make your home beautiful?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Authenticity? I think filling it with things that we care about,
that are meaningful and doing so over time, you know,
like and particularly with decorative items, you can absolutely tell
when you walk into someone's home and every piece is
(39:33):
meaningful as opposed to they've gone out one Saturday and
panic purchased all of their decor. So I think a
home is beautiful when you get the spirit of the
people that live in it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, I can't wait to see the spirit of you
in your new home.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
If you're sharing that, I will. I will. It's going
to be a slow process again, because I like to
take my time and get the right thing. I'd rather
have an empty shelf, for example, and collect over time.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Brie.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's been so gorgeous having you here at the edit today,
and I can't wait to have you back.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Thank you so much. I have absolutely loved this conversation.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I loved hearing about all the different rituals that Bree has.
I mean wearing shoes at home to signify your working,
and her slippers when she's cleaning. I think I might
adopt that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Rie.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Thank you for reminding us that the most timeless interiors,
they're not the ones that win on Pinterest. They're the
ones that look after the people who live there and
just make the everyday easy. If today's conversation nudgs you
to move a lamp, or repaint a wall, or just
to admit what colors you actually love, we'd really like
(40:46):
to see it. So tag us at home Beautiful and
tell us what you're changing in your own sanctuary. You've
been listening to the edit the show about your style
and your sanctuary. If you enjoyed this episode, follow the show,
leave us a rating, and share it with the person
you always send home in spo to, and thank you
(41:07):
so much for listening
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