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December 9, 2025 • 17 mins

Matt is getting a weird amount of backlash for celebrating Lola's daycare graduuation, Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau are Instagram-official now and David Attenborough's tips on living to 100.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A good pickup with britt Hockley.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And Laura Ben Baby, your work, our windows done. If
my world is in the dust, only good babs all down.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll beg get
and what I want. It don't matter where rages.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is the pickup, Maddie Jay.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Four days down until we say our farewells to you here.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You're in the pickup.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
It's gonna be an emotional week. I think we haven't
had any tears just yet, but I'm sure they're coming.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Is this like when you get married and every woman
wants the husband to cry?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Are you gonna want me to cry?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (00:39):
I will be offended if by Friday afternoon at four o'clock,
if there's no tears.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Grace, you're gonna have to peppers ramy just before that
seems excessive.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Hey, Brittany, I'm carrying a little injury at the moment.
I don't know if you can see the little blister
on my Can.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You see that?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I can see that?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, Okay? Is this weird?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Whenever I cook a steak in a fry pan, I
season it with a bit of salt and pepper.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's not weird. That's normal.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, wait for it. Then after it's cooled down, stick,
I then with.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
My thumb, I then like scoop up the grains of
like salt and pepper, and I like lick it off
my thumb.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
You just made a choice to share that information.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because it's so good, it's so delicious.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
You have a burn, a literal burn on your thumb
because you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I couldn't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You can't wait? Are you touching the burning steak?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I just I really enjoy it, Like the combination of
salt and pepper oil're like caramelized fat.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Why don't you just eat the steak?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Then I do eat the steak and I come back
for more and I yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Laura is always looking at me like I'm eating out
of a tray. She's like, what are you doing.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'm like, it's so good, it's so funny because you've
been teasing that. Like people mad at you this week
online and I'm like, is that what they're mad at?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because I understand it.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
No, not mad about that one. I'm sure they will be.
I can't wait for the backlash on that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Brittany.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
You may remember last week we celebrated a very special
occasion in the Johnson household.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
It was, of course, there was a dance recital, and
there was a graduation.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yes, big week, and one of those events has rubbed
people up the wrong way. I did a video it
was a little cut down from our podcast two Dotting Dads,
and I was talking about the fact that I got
a little bit emotional at the daycare graduation of Lola.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yes, you cried. It was all the feelings. It was
a whole big thing.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Now, A couple of people reached out and had some
thoughts on the event. One in particular got my attention.
I'm going to read you the message from Brad Smith eight.
He says, it's freaking daycare. That is not an achievement.
Parents are out of control if they think it's important
to celebrate nothing with the kid. Kids need to start
learning that it's okay to lose. They need to start

(02:56):
learning that life is just life. Seriously, what the act?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I was like, that also feels.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Like there's something deeper there, because it's like saying that
you shouldn't be celebrating this and they need to lose
and stuff like they just finished school and what's he
mad about it.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
I mean, we're not like wrapping the kids in bubble
wrap and saying that they can never have any disappointment.
I mean, we're just celebrating daycare. Look, I do understand
that people may be like, well, why are you celebrating that.
It's not that much of an achievement to graduate daycare.
It's not like there's no kid that doesn't graduate. If
you're just in that year, you just buy default.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
You don't like fail the sand piece.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, it's exactly like, sorry, Timmy, you're gonna have to
spend another year finger painting. That was not good. That
was a shocker. Sorry he cannot graduate this year. Yeah
he's like, he's just Timmy, he's just.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Not doing it.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
He's pretty big, he's struggling. But it does seem a
bit ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Do you know what the thing with me is?

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Like, I think it's important to celebrate those little things.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Do I think.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
That we are in the like participate patient era where
everyone gets an award for trying, and I think it's
important to try. But I do think that, like when
you're in a running race, I get that if you
come last, it's important that you tried. It is but
everyone shouldn't get a medal because you do have to
learn because life isn't that isn't life right, Like there

(04:17):
are clear winners in life at certain things and that
kind of stuff. It's okay for them to be like
I'm not as good of a runner, Like, that's okay,
you're going to be better at something else.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I hear, And I think you want to build some
resilience in your kids.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Absolutely I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
And I think when it comes to sport, I'm absolutely
not opposed to giving first, second, and third the little ribbon,
a little medal if you will, and the rest can
then try harder the next year. But I think when
it comes to we're talking about five year olds here,
and I think does it need to happen?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Probably not. Do the kids really love it?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Did Lola get super excited the fact that we built
it up to this big occasion it's the end of daycare?
Did she then look back at the photos and did
she reminisce and was it a nice chance for all
the parents to get together it was?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Here's a question because sometimes I do think it is
a lot like for me, for example, when I look
at that, I'm like, yes, I think you should celebrate
graduating and going off to school and making it feel special.
Do I think you need to have graduation capes and
graduation hats with the tassels and like that all sings
like a lot. Do you have to pay for that
as a parent, because you know what, UNI, when you graduate,

(05:21):
you have to like buy your graduation outfit, so they
provide the graduation stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I mean, I was paying one hundred and eighty bucks
a day a day, yees, So I'm sure at some
point those fees for the capes and they had to
swallow it in there somewhere, but they just they reuse
those capes and you know what, it's a bit silly,
you know the fact that they are standing there in
capes and they're five years old. But it just adds
a little bit of theater. And when we talk about
the graduation process, all that happens is they sing two songs.

(05:46):
They then each get a little certificate. They then like
throw the little hat in the air, and that is it.
It's over in about half.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
An hour, and then you give the capes back.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
And then we got to give the capes back and
that is it. So to you, Brad eight yeah, Brad Smith,
I said, tell me you think this is a good
comeback or not. I said, tell me you don't have
kids without telling me you don't have kids, and he
said I have three actually, and he goes, but I
don't have the brats that you'll have, and then which
I replied, well, if there're anything like their dad, I

(06:18):
beg to differ.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
My drop Cape drop, Hey, can I just graduation hat?

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Drop?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Can we have a ground of applause? That was God.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
I don't know if we should be encourage in online
troll fighting, but like, congratulations lower, that was.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
A civil fight. And if anyone wants to come at
me for daycare graduations, I will come at you with
a wrath of a thousand tired parents.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Okay, Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau, they have gone to
Instagram official as like the latest hottest most Strange couples.
He is Canada's former prime minister, and obviously Katy Perry
is Katy Perry.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So it does seem like a there's a bit of like,
how did this happen? Where did this come from?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I thought the Orlando bloom relationship was a bit weird.
And then she's just dialed it right back up to
old justin over here.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
By all accounts, I think they've been together for quite
a while. They've been like drip feeding some stuff. They've
been spotted on some yachts and things, but they just
weren't official.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
But they're like they've posted they're.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Eating to talk about. What do you think? What are
they chatting about?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Well, Katie went.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
To space, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
I'd probably ask.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Her about that. And Justin run a country, so exactly.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
He's going to talk about economics, She's going to talk
about the fact that her latest album did really badly.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
What else is there to talk about?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well? I wanted to play a game called couple or Not.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Okay, which is basically it's pretty self explanatory.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Can I just before we do that? Do you think
they're a good couple? Yes?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, who am I to comment?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I don't know them personally, but I would think that
they're pretty mismatched. But maybe that's what you need, right
Maybe you need someone completely that's not in your industry
that you can learn from and be inquisitive with.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And because maybe her and Orlando were like in the.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Same she's learned the lessons from Orlando and who was
it Richard Branson?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It wasn't. It was Russell Bread, Russell Bread.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I was like, what, we're playing a couple or not?

Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't know these Producer Grace is going to run
this and we're gonna guess if it is a couple
or was a couple or not.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, Yeah, I feel like I'm going to do pretty well.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Essentially, I'm going to give you two celebrity names. You
just need to tell me if these people have dated
or not that we know.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
And also, Brittany, don't just copy my answers. No, I'm
pretty think for yourself.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I'm pretty good at this.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I reckon, I'm gonna nail it all right, starting relatively easy.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I reckon.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Taylor Swift and Calvin Harris. Did they ate?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
They dated?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Absolutely? They did.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They did.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's correct. Twenty ten, fifteen fifteen, Yeah, so close together.
Don't just agree with.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I said it before.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
They were together for fifteen fifteen months. Okay, all right,
celebrity couple or not? Number two Milacunas and Macaulay Culkin.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, they dated from two thousand and two to twenty ten,
Like eight years they dated.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Is it true.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Produce to Grace, she left him home alone?

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Okay, all right, didn't she start dating Ashton Kutcher when
she was like fourteen or something?

Speaker 6 (09:22):
They kind of broke up and came back together.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
On a set.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, I see, brittany where's any little lugget's information you
want to add to that?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I know how she left him home alone? Move on, players.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Celebrity Couple or Not? Number three Share and Tom cruise.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
No, I don't think the Church of Scientology would have
approved of that. I'm going to say, oh, the looking
Grace's face is saying otherwise, I'm going to say false.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I recking Cruisey would have shared. No, they dated.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Mind, they secretly dated it in the eighties. They met
it Madonna and Sean Penn's wedding.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Wow, a secret?

Speaker 6 (10:00):
How do you know I've spoken about it?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Was married to Madonna. I knew that. I knew that,
all right.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Celebrity Couple or Not? Number four Margot Robbie Bradley Cooper falls.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
You know why because Margot has been with her partner
Tom Ackley for a very long time. He was a
cameraman when they were young, before she made it to Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Boom, that was good.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
False.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Not a couple.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
There you go, I said that.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, that was I know a lot about m Rob
All right, did these people date Lucy Lou?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Sorry? Producer? How many questions are left?

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Three?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, great?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
This is good Lucy Lou and justin Timberlake a couple
or no.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Lucy Lou is one that I don't know a lot about.
I feel like the publicists on both teams will be like,
this is good guys, good for business, get together.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I can envision it.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm gonna say true.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Okay, I'll go true.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Not a couple of damns people I put together in
a sentence. How did you think of that?

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I have no idea, although I think we can all
agree they would be a good couple.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Hot hot, he was an angel.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
He was a bee boy, all right?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Janet Jackson and Matthew McConaughey dated or not?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Which one's Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Wilson, Matthew mcconnaughean.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Sorry he was in mud. Yeah, I'm gonna say true.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
They had a fling in the early two thousand. I
knew it.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I knew it.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Oh that's weird. I can't see that together. I can't
see them, Okay, Janet, all right?

Speaker 6 (11:24):
One more Kim Kardashian and Idris Elba couple or not.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm going no, my gosh, they would be hot. I'd
love to see it. I'd ship that.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
I reckon they had some cheeky little like side fleeing.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, true, I've gone.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I've gone. No, not a couple of Yes, that's the wad.
I won a couple of not a couple.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
I'm gonna drag in the water to the inormural couple.
Not a couple game. And it's our last week and
so I will never get a.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Chance to redeem yourself.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
God, Matty Ja the one and O heart throb David Attenbrough.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
How old you reckon? He is, Brittany, have a guess.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
He's got to be nearly a Hundi. He's got to
be late nineties.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
He is sitting right now a ninety nine not.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Out And do you know what he's still like in
South America doing documentaries, wrestling Anacondas and stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
He loves a wrestle.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
He loves a wrestle.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
A wrestle.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
He always said, I quote, I will wrestle an Conda's
until I'm a hundred.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Was a llegend quote alleged quote.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Don't say that to anyone else, but I've always wondered,
my gosh, he looks so good and he's still working
at almost one hundred.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
What is this secret?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I often wonder if the secret is just that it's
working and still like staying really busy with an active
mind and an active body, because you know what they say,
use it to lose yeah, use it or lose it,
and it's really really true.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
But this apparently there's a few things here that have
contributed to good old David Attenborough making it to triple digits.
And it comes down to the fire blue zones.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Do you know what they are? Brittany?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
So hang on, is this coming from David himself? Is
he like no longer gate keeping longevity or is this like.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, people used to always say, hey, Dave, how are
you so old and so like young at heart? And
he's like, I'm not telling And then now that he's
ninety nine, he's like, all right, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know what I reckon?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, maybe when he wrestles the Anicondas, maybe he's been
taking their snake venom and stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Because sometimes that's mixed into like these. I wouldn't be
surprised it's something he'd do.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
We can't confirm or deny that, but what we can
confirm is that he has a couple of lifestyle habits
that he can share with us, and these are similar
to those who live in these blue zone regions like California,
Costa Rica, Japan, Sardinia, and Italy.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh this could be me. Does Ben live up that way?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Ben lives in Italy? Yeah, my husband.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
But so if you don't know what a blue zone is,
it's like a region that is known for people that
live beyond one hundred.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
So they do a lot of research into it.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
They did a documentary on like why are these people
in these blue zones living so long?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
So if you want to live to one hundred, listen up.
What you've gotta do is eat predominantly a plant diet.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Limit red meat.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's like me, I don't eat red meat.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Do you avoid dairy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I don't eat dairy.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh my god, I'm not non.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Dairy, like the only dairy I'll eat.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I do have a soft spot for cheese, like any cheese,
I will consume it, but I don't have any other dairy?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Has anyone in your family made it to one hundred?
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, we've had early nineties. Oh who is that my grandma?
My dad's mom.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Is she still with us?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
She's not.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, she checked out a little while ago.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I apologize.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
My other nana is about to turn ninety, like she's
pretty close.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Oh so she could be. Would you be upset if
she was the first to make it to one hundred?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I'd love her to be one hundred? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Would you be upset that you're not the first.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I want everyone for my family to be one hundred.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
It means I get longer with that.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I kind of want to be the first. That very
Matt Codd in the Johnson family.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, you want your mom to live to one hundred?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Well yeah, but also I want to I want people
like I want a few generations of the Johnson family
be like you know, Matthew Johnson was the first to
make it to one hundred, inspired by his good friend
David Attenbrough.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
So has David given any other key secrets or just
like that's it?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's He's a man of few words.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
It does documentaries, He talks a lot he just doesn't
want to give you a secrets.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
When it comes to giving away secrets a living longer,
it's hard to get anything out of him. But apparently,
if you have a parent or sibling who makes it
to one hundred yard, ten times more likely than the
general population to make it there themselves.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
So when my grandma Joyce was still with us, she
lived alone when she.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Passed away, but she was very independent. But I used
to ask.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Her, like, what what was your secret? Because she was
the early nineties, yep, what was your secret?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
And was she like David atmach like, I'm not telling
you no, Well.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know how true this advice is. I don't
want anyone to take this advice.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
But she said that her secret was a glass minimum
of scotch every night, full glass, even when she went
to hospital or at the end of life like a
shut or a glass like a scotch on the rocks.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
She was a.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Went like a pint.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I was bottle, no, but even in hospital she had swotch.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Is it yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Because she I think at that point she knew, you know,
that she was old and unwell, and like I think
maybe she knew and she wanted to go happy. She'd
had it every day of life, and so yeah, that
was her secret glass of scotch.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
We do have to say, well, I am not a
medical professional, so please, we're not condoning no drinking.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
But I had no idea I'm going to start drinking more.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
No, I don't think take Grandma's Joy's advice and will
everyone listening.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, if it's good for Grandma Joys, it's good for me.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hey, guys, that is it. We are getting out of here.
You can listen to us on demand.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
If you missed anything, you just have to search to
pick up podcast on iHeart or wherever you get your podcasts.
Don't go anywhere because the wonderful Will and Woody are
going to be driving you home on this fine Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Do we know what kind of scotch it was?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think it's She's pretty open actually specific bread beggars
can't be chooses. Say tomorrow bye,
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