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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I am so excited to bring in today's guests someone
that when you grow up, little Brittany was like, I'm
never going to get the chance to speak to this woman.
This is Australia's highest selling artist of all time ten
million albums worldwide. She has just released a new remix
of her nineteen ninety four hit I'm in Change.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Do you know who I'm talking about? Tinaa O Hi, Oh,
what a moment this is.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You've released an absolute new banger, a remix with shouts
of chains. Did you expect to ever replicate the success
that you had so long ago?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well, the replication of the success is very different today
in terms of how we kind of view music and stuff.
But I didn't. I didn't really expect. I don't expect much.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You're going to get it, though, do you much?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Do you feel different performing now in comparison to when
it first came out, Like getting up and performing this song,
does it feel different?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
To you or does it have a different meaning to
it now?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, I think it's a song that's always because it
came from such an honest place, and I think that
the subject matter of chains is something that I think
is completely identifiable for anybody. I always knew that the
song had great longevity because it's a it's a it's
a very well written song. It's please it's pleasing to
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see that there's a new generation that are enjoying it today.
And I still enjoy seeing the song because it takes
a different shape all the time, you know, And I'm
much more comfortable performing today as opposed to being in
the nineties, where perhaps was much more insecure about my staff.
(02:06):
You know, whilst everybody was enjoying it, I was constantly questioning.
So you know that constant questioning now goes. It's like,
you know what it is, what it is, don't overthink it,
just have a great time and pray to God that
everybody else has a good time.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
People do I mean even the reception that you had
when you performed at the AFL Grand Final a few
weeks ago now with Katy Perry, I don't want to
ask about the performance because that was incredible. We all agree.
I mean to say that moment it was amazing. But
how do you feel getting the call? I mean, when
you get the call from Katy Perry or Katy Perry's team,
does the you know, the Tina from Young Talent Time
when you were eight years old? Go, what's going on?
Why it's Katy Perry calling me? That must be a
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crazy moment.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It was nice. Look, she's really great. She was asked
obviously to do the thing. She'd agreed. She she has
a real affinity with Australians's actually her in a call,
her inner sanctum, her creative a musical sanctum are all Australians.
So it's very interesting. How yeah, how she's sort of
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set up so I think, sort of spiritually and certainly
from a sense of humor perspective, we're quite similar. We're
both scorpios, so we both work really hard, we both
have a sense of humor. She was really lovely. She
loved the song, wanted to wanted it to be a
part of her set, which I was really flatted because
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she didn't have to, but she chose to. And I
think that that's incredibly gracious on her. Behalf. You know,
and we had a bloody great time.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Tina. You said before that you like at this phase
now in life where you don't you don't care as
much about what people think, or you're able to kind
of just move beyond the space that you're in where
you're feeling more self conscious.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
What changed for you? What gave you this new perspective?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Well, age gives you that perspective when you're in your
you know, I'm in my late fifties now, so you know,
if I don't start enjoying myself, really looking at what
it is that I do and enjoying it, what is
the bloody purpose of it? Right? So I think that
once you understand that it's not your job to make
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everybody happy, it's your job to do what it is
that you do, and if people come along and enjoy
enjoy that, that's terrific, and if they don't, that's certainly
fine as well. You know, I think that it's at
a certain point you've just got to take stock of
everything and understand that you do what you do and
as long as your intentions are good, the rest who cares.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're the first Australian to be awarded a knighthood. In France.
What benefits do you get being like a night.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Plate?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Does it come with anything?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Zero arrow, It gives you nothing, just a bit of
a flat big.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's a big fat zero. Of course. It doesn't put
you at the top of the line. It doesn't do anything.
It's a it's a recognition. It's a lovely recognition. But
does it do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
For you know, not like less tax or anything. Payless tax,
no sneaking. It comes up in trivia.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, no, certainly not less tax stuff, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You know, it's funny, Tina. I watched what's happening in
the US at the moment, and you've got like Beyonce
hanging out about the election ride and and Beyonce speaking
for Kamala. And when you get to icon status in America,
it's almost like, all of a sudden, you have to
speak on all issues. You've got to speak on cultural issues,
you've got to speak on political issues. But in Australia
you get to you get to icon status like you have,
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and it's kind of like leave them alone. You know,
they don't have to speak on anything. Yeah, yes, you're
a Nadya a French night. But also I'm more mean,
do you ever feel pressured Tina to come out and
speak on those political issues here in Australia.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You know not.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I mean everybody sort of comments about things today, because
if we look at the state of the world, there
is certainly reason to be gravely concerned, particularly with this collection.
And I am I am. I do pay attention to politics.
I always have. I don't know where that comes from.
Maybe it's the Maybe I come from a household where
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politics was a subject at the dinner table where we
would talk things. I think it's really important that people
are aware of what's going on. MAYA be quiet, please should?
I think it's important to know what is going on
because you know, if America sneezes, we catch the pneumonia.
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And frankly, that's very important. And you know, we are
living in a world where it's really clear now that
people are being censored for what it is that they say.
I'm just a citizen like anybody else. So where those
elections go and all of that they discussed is of
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course a concern to me, like it's a concern to
any of anybody listening, right, So we do need to
pay attention, and I do pay attention listen.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
If you're just joining us on the pick up. Tina
Arena is here. She's got brand new music out. She's
doing a thirtieth aniversary tour. All the details next. She's
staying with us after this on the pickup. Joining us
now is an Australian icon, ladies. Truly, this is a
new remix of change good.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Right, Yes, welcome back now, Tina. We were just talking
about it before the break. We're talking about some things
that are happening in the States, but you also recently
made a comment about how the music industry needs an
overhaul and in reference particularly to what's happening with p
Diddy at the moment. I mean we're all across that right, Yeah,
it's crazy. What is your experience of the music What
(07:51):
was your experience of the music scene and the music
music What was your experience of the music scene and
the music culture when it was at its height?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Looks want it. It's not a particularly kind industry. There's
an enormous amount of manipulation and insecurity that goes on.
It's a system that's evolved with time to think less
and less of the people that are the creatives that
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create the art. So it's really an important time for
artists and the public alike to be aware of a
systemic that has been in place just for a long time.
It's run in a particular fashion that's very inappropriate economically, spiritually,
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and all of all of the above. I've you know,
I just call out the bullshit. I just can't. I
don't have the patience for it. I've always been very
honest about it. I started being honest about it a
long long time ago. And that's the way it is.
And I'm whilst it's unbelievably tragic what is going on
(09:02):
in the US if it enables the system to be
completely rethought, and I think it's time. Yeah, so that's
what I think. That's what I think. I mean, I've
seen a lot of stuff my day. It's not worth
getting into it. I think all of you have a
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vivid enough imagination of the kind of stuff that goes
on as as a woman. Now I sort of go, okay, well,
here are my boundaries, here are my rules. If you
like them to you don't like them, that's fine too.
But I don't want to be a part of any
of that. I've never been a part of it. I'm
not interested, but I do know what goes on.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, speaking of economically, which you just said, I just
read something wild.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Lily Allen just came out saying that she.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Makes more money off her feet only fans than she
does from her eight million streams a month on Spotify.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Which is insane and gorgeous. She must have a lot
of subscribers and only fans then no.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But it's just insane because a lot of people sign
and only is she or only.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Only for her feet? Only for her feet?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
She puts like she does get pedicures, has nice sandals
and makes a bank. Well, she's saying she makes more
of that. But I think a lot of people sign
their life away. But Tina, your thirtieth anniversary to I
Don't Ask is coming up. You've got some special guests
and some special little surprises along the way.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Can you quickly tell us about who you're bringing along
with you?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Well, Richard Marx is my international guest, which I'm really
excited about, so he'll have an opportunity to play his music,
which has always been successful in Australia. There's also Darryl
broith Waite, Oh hate Sir Bryana is playing Southern Sons
will be playing, nineteen twenty seven will be playing. Wow,
(10:54):
I just and myself. I just think it's a really
interesting lineup of people. So I think it's going to
be a fantastic day.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, absolutely, Tina.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Can I just say it's so incredibly refreshing to speak
to someone who has been in the absolute upper echelons
of Australian stard and when it comes to the industry
that you're in and how humble you are and how
you speak about it and all the lessons that you've
learned along the way, it really is such a I mean,
I've enjoyed this so much.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It's such a beautiful perspective that you have.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Thank you, Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
I'm not into smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'm just not, no, you can tell.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I kind of look at it like my job is
to be truthful to myself and to the public. My
job isn't to give them any more bullshit. They've got
enough bullshit on their plates, so I just I keep it,
I keep it as it is, and.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
That is why She's of the times. That is Tina Arena,
thank you so much for joining us this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
On the pickup.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Thank you so much. Guys, keep having fun and keep
keeping it real.