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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the
land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb
Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on
this land for thousands of years, and we show our
gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture.
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This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive
to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations,
healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve.
I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,
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and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's
about putting you in the driver's seat of.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Your own life.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are you ready? So please?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You mentioned about a relationship with money. How's your relationship
with money evolved over the years, and yeah, what have
you kind of what's like a knowing for in you now?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes? So the concept of money is so funny, it's
everything I grew Like I said, I grew up in
a very traditional Aussie family. My dad was a plumber,
my mom was a stay at home mom. They both
kind of, you know, came from nothing and built up.
You know, we had a very comfortable life. And in
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saying that we were very much it was instilled. You know,
you worked very hard for money, you save your money,
money doesn't grow on trees, you know, et cetera. I
feel like that's that's very yeah, yeah, the very normal
Ossie experience. And it's so interesting because now I look
at my childhood and all my conditioning with money and
I'm like, it's just not true. It's a complete illusion.
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And like I said, I made my career choices based
on money, and I made so many choices based on money.
And I've had the scarcity relationship with money. I've had
the abundant relationship with money. I've had to continue my
relationship with money because again, it's it's not linear, it's
not an end result. And I think if you can
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really detach from money being this like physical you know,
notes or numbers in yeah, and you can detach from
that and you can understand that it is an energy
and you can understand that it's always going to reflect
to you your beliefs about it. So for example, you know,
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in my relationship with my husband Tim, which I've been
with him since I was seventeen, you know, going on
thirteen years now. You know, if I was to show
up in our relationship and I wasn't to trust him,
if I was to think that he was always going
to leave, if I was to think that I've got
to work really really hard for his love to the
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point of burnout. If I was to think that, you know,
I had to really hold on and not let him
go see his friends or do anything, because if he leaves,
he's not gonna come back. Like, how do you think
our relationship would look? We probably wouldn't have a relationship.
He'd be like, well, dude, like the fuck out I
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was going to go? Or you know, if I imagine if
he was like having a shower and I just kept
like looking at him in the shower and just I'm
just checking you're still there, do you know what I mean? Like,
it is no different. Our relationship to money is the
same as our relationship to our partner. And you know,
I hope we all know what a healthy We don't
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all know, sorry, but.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We all we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We've all seen what a healthy relationship can be. And
it's like, for example, in me and Tim's relationship, he
lets me go and do my thing. I've gone, you know,
and done my career and explored my purposes, and you know,
we holiday. I will go on a retreat and he
goes and does golf, and he has his interests and
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so much trust, so much love, so much acceptance. But
the underlying is I know he's always going to be
there for me. I always give him the benefit of
the doubt. I know that if there's any anytime an
issue we communicate about it, I know I'm able to
change and evolve and he will accept and love me.
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Like that's, you know, a foundation of a healthy relationship.
Let's say so if you have things with money, like
you constantly check your bank account, you constantly feel like
if you don't hold onto that amount of money, you're
going to be you know, less off or something bad
is going to happen. If you feel like you have
to work really really hard to the point of burnout,
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to the point of your boundaries being broken, you are
not going to have a great experience with wealth with abundance.
And it's so interesting because we don't get taught that
that's not I'm if you have never heard someone talk
about money in that way, you'd be listening being like,
what the fuck is she on? And so it's hard
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because all our conditioning, for you know, however old you are,
if it's you know, thirty years old, for thirty years,
you have been taught about money in a certain way,
and that's what your life has reflected. And so if
you want to change your life with money, if you
want to change your relationship with money, if you want
to have more money, if you want to have less money,
if you want to whatever, it is so simple that
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you need to change your beliefs, what you think, what
you feel, what is in your body with your relationship
with money, and your reality has to reflect that, it
has to bend and change to reflect your beliefs. Like
our reality is just you know, our three D eight.
It's an illusion. It's not actually real, which again a
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whole other conversation. It's just our perception. And so it's
so funny because with money, I just always go back
to those call beliefs. I always go back to well,
even if the three D is reflecting, I know, maybe
you get a bill or like something goes really wrong
or something really fucks up in business and you're you know,
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down hundreds of thousands of dollars that doesn't actually matter
because I know I can go inwards. I can readjust things.
I can look at, Okay, well, what have I been
thinking about? What I have, what have I been integrating,
what have I been focusing on? I can readjust that,
and I know my reality has to reflect that absolutely
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my job. It really can be that simple. But I
know it's obviously it's a whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well like, let it be that simple. But at the
same time, it's like our stories and our illusions men
make it over complicated. And what I was really hearing
from especially is this, like like anything in life when
especially with like when we're moving towards with our life
orce energy and seeing that what like that you receive
from what like there's that reciprocal energy that's coming with money,
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And what has happened is that we've created all these
prerequisites of how it has to happen. And so in
really what you were saying, it's like, yes, we have
the mindset piece, but it's also the energetic piece of
like are you actually operating in the ways that you're
saying that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You want to operate?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Are you actually living in that way? Because we can
take out the word yeah, money for love or for
freedom or for energy, and the second that you're operating
from a place of you know, I think even just
when you were saying with the challenge there, when things
like that happen, I always see it as an opportunity
to expand and see it's to lock in and to
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like looking like, wow, my vessel is like expanding in
this moment of how much I can hold and how
much I can do and like knowing that there's actually
going to be a lot more coming on the other
side because this idea, again it's based on this one
percent perception of our logical mind of like this bill
came in or things are really whatever right now, so
this is how it's going to be moving forward. Things
are bad, so it equals bad, rather than seeing like
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what is the other potential that it could be happening
from this, Like I'm sure when you've had those things
happen in your business, like what the lesson that you
gained from it? Often there can be like an expensive
lesson or expensive bill, but then from that you've gained
so much more abouts money from that, you know, And
it's like seeing that Yep, I think a lot of
the time, Yeah, the conditioning. Is this like punishment that
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we're always then continuing for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Well, it's like, for example, if I was to say
to you, if you knew for a fact that for
the next two years you wouldn't earn any money, maybe
it'd even like lose some money, but at the end
of that two years you would be given a check
of five million dollars, how would you feel? How would
you move through that time at knowing that certainty compared
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to if you you know, because again we don't know.
We don't have that certainty. We're not supposed to. If
you move through life and you were constantly having you know,
I'm not I'm not gaining money, I'm not gaining wealth,
you know, how would you move? It's like you can
see how different that person is going to be. And
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so that's why it's so important to not engage with
the three D, not engage with our reality, because it's
not It's never a truth unless unless you want it
to be, unless you create it, make it. Yeah, and
it's again it's I know that's a hard concept to
kind of comprehend sometimes, but also, like you said, you
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never know what's going to happen, and so losing Let's
say you lose a bit of money for this, that
and whatever reason. If you make it mean that you're
bad with money, that you'll never have more money, et cetera,
et cetera, then that will be true for you. That
will be your story. But if you make it mean
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this was the mo that I then went and did
the thing and then you know, sold the company for
this amount or you know whatever. There's so many stories
that we have of other people having that rock bottom
moment and then something incredible happening, or having that rock
bottom moment and something even worse happening. You actually get
to decide, and that's like I am a huge manifesto,
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huge like law of assumption all that sort of thing,
and you really are the co creator of your life
and the universe is here to back you. But it doesn't.
It doesn't care if it's negative of positive. So if
you want to have these negative views and these negative stories,
it's going to back you, and that's what you're going
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to get. If you want to have these incredible positive
stories and positive experience and positive challenges, it's going to
back you. It doesn't actually matter your belief system. Your
reflections is what matters.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Absolutely, and even for people that are listening now, and
you can feel your mind wanting to resist it or
your conditioning and like beautiful, just like be aware of that.
Instead of running down the stories, you can just be like, Okay,
there's a part of me that is saying, oh, that's
all well and good for you to say, or there's
a part of me that's saying that's not possible for me.
And I think sometimes we can either It's not about
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like shaming that, It's about being like interesting, there is
this part of me there is in this like disbelief
or in this yeah, fear for self yeap, And like
how are you when you do have moments of like
doubt or fear or yeah, like self judgment?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
How how how do you operate through that? I love
this question again understanding that that's not a bad thing.
We have, you know, the inner critic, we have the doubt,
we have the ego, you know, so we don't die,
so we're not not jumping off cliffs and stuff. But
really seeing that again not as truth. Well, it can
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be truth if you want it to be truth, but
see it as a choice and just seeing it as
your past conditioning so anytime I do have doubt or
I have things come up, I'm like, oh this is good.
I know there's still a belief system inside that is
reflecting this doubt, is reflecting this shame, is reflecting this guilt.
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Do I want to carry that forward? And being like okay, cool,
I have this option. This is where I need to
do the work. Because again, it's so easy to say,
just have a great relationship with money, just you know,
think you're always going to be successful, but unless you're
looking internally and seeing what needs to shift, what needs
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to move through, because again it can be simple. But
also you know, this is just a very complex example.
But to give an example, if you are someone who
has been abused, let's say by a man, and then
you have you listen to someone and they're like, menagrade.
You know, just be in a healthy relationship with a man,
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but you have this past experience that would be trauma
inside your body. You can't just think, oh no, men,
I find men can be safe. You would have to
work through that trauma. You would have to work through
that inner experience. And of course you can work through it,
but it's sometimes not as simple as just thinking it.
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If that makes sense. So when I do have these
situations that come up of the inner critic of the doubt,
it's showing me where I need to do the work.
And then from there it's you know, using different modality.
So for me, I am big on meditation, breath work, EFT, tapping.
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That's kind of like my go to and I have
an app where we do all that, and so that's
my basis. If that's still feeling like the doubt's still
coming up, the shame, guilt, you know, whatever the feeling
is then and it might be you know, like I
go to a full body heal or where we do
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a lot of different it's like ed M Marti the
I you know, those sorts of things. So yes, so
I'll go deeper. And so in that situation, it's not bad.
It's just showing me my previous past conditioning, what my body,
where my body is storing trauma, where I'm you know,
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thinking a certain way. And it's so good when it
comes up because you have the chance to clear it.
If you never had challenges, if everything went right, like
you would never be shaped, you would never understand yourself,
you would never become and like we were saying in
our previous conversation, this beautiful life, this incredible life, is
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about the becoming. So if you are going through something tough,
like of course, have that beautiful self compassion and love
for yourself, but also understand that it is this beautiful
opportunity to expand, to move forward, because without that you
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would never be able to identify. And it's funny. I
saw this quote that was so beautiful and I will
try not butcher it, and she was saying, like, our
doubt is just basically like the before of our courage,
because without the doubt, without the thing stopping you, you
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don't get to move through it. You don't get to
be the person who moves through. You don't get to
become the person who overcomes that. And so it's like
we need those experiences, We need those things, and that's
why you know, I'll talk about manifestation and people will
be like, but look at all the bad in the world,
like did that person deserve it? And it's never about
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that person deserving it. It's never about that. But also
understanding that everyone is on their own journey and I
personally believe it's like we've all signed the slip where
it's like, this is what I want to experience. This
is the becoming I want. So we have to have
these experiences to become the person we want. So and
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if you can have that mindset where something is going down,
like shit's going down, Shit's not good, and you can
have the mindset of like this is actually my becoming,
Like how can I lean more into this? How can
I be more uncomfortable? How can I, like we were
saying off air, Hillary of like I'm going through a
period where I'm actually having to slow down and I'm
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having to be more present and I'm having to like
let go and surrender, and that feels so foreign to
me because my comfortable is the over overachieving, it's doing more,
it's you know, level five kind of thing. So it's
so interesting because it's so uncomfortable to slow down, to
be present, to just be still. And so that that's
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how I know that's where I need to be. Because again,
if you just stay in the comfortable zone of what
you've always known, you can do that, but you will
never become more, you will never expand more. And again,
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All right, let's get back into the app sto.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But yeah, like right on time, almost like right everything exactly,
like exactly what you were saying of like what is
the actual whole point of it? And so if the
whole point is the becoming or is it transformation or
is the evolution or is it we say, like the
Camic correction whatever, as we said, like you come in
here with something like okay, so if we need to
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learn something, we're going to be given those challenges, and
it's going to often be around something that we're deeply
motivated by. We're deeply motivated by love and money, and
so we'll get challenged around that because we'll we still
want those things. So if we're thinking that this in
order to get through this challenge, and I'll be able
to receive that, it's like a motivating force. And so
exactly how you said, when you can almost just that
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shift of perspective of like this is you know, the
cliche thing, but like I was going to say, this
is not it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This is for me, life thing for me.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, it's having for me, not to me and this
idea as well of you know exactly of you need
to be scared to be brave, and yeah, you need
to doubt in order to overcome and to to have
this courage. And so when you see that, the constriction
is always going to happen right before the expansion. And
I saw it even just recently where we're selling our
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place and we're going to go get we want to
have more land, and of course the selling process, like
the real estate agent is just like Mick's just like
why is he making it difficult? Like you know, he
took photos of our space and it's just like they're
just shitty photos. And I was like, Nick, this is
a good sign something is coming, Like we're going to
you know, this is going to be incredible process because
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like all just these like little stupid challenges of like
you know, Nick ended up getting his own photographer in
and he was like, should we just like get another
real estate agent.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm like this is good.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Even though obviously it doesn't mean that you just sit
back and do nothing. It's like, well, okay, we've been
to you know, shift and problem solve a mode. But
knowing that this is not actually a bad sign, I
think Nick almost went down of like is this a
bad sign about selling the place? Exactly? It never never,
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So to speak to that, please, because I think a
lot of us can even just hearing this, you might
be we can go into the victim mentality. We speak
more into that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I honestly like, the worst thing you can do in
your life is we stuck in victim mentality and think
things are going wrong and that person will perpetually have
a bad life. That's what you focus on expands. So,
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so a great story. I love that you brought in,
you know, your property situation. So we recently moved and
it was very it was this thing. So it's interesting
because even with the relationships, Me and my husband went
through a huge challenge in our relationship, which at the time,
I was like why we've been together for so long,
We've never had issues, like why is this happening? It
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felt very like I was in the victim mentality of
like why because he was like the one constant in
my life that I never really had to and so
we went through a huge challenge around when we had
our first daughter. It really reflected a lot of wounds
in each other and I think just having a child
is such a challenging process an initiation is. And it's
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interesting because now that we're past that challenge, we have
such a deeper relationship. We have such a deeper connection,
which again we've been together for so long. I didn't
think that was possible. But now on the other side,
I'm like, oh my god, thank god that happened. But
during the time, it wasn't nice. And so that's you know,
that's the first thing of like, but if you get stuck,
if I was stuck in the victim mentality, if he
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was stuck in the victim mentality, who knows what could happen.
You know, maybe we wouldn't be together or you know
that sort of you believe, yes, exactly, and so just
be very conscious of that. And I think, sorry, going
back to the property thing, we recently moved and it
came off the back of these you know, challenges where
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we're like, we want something different for the family, want
to like have more land, we want more space, we
want Ivy to have like more of a yard, we
want the dog to have a yard. And we end
up buying a house before we sold our other primary
house and it felt like such a stretch, but I
was like, it's such a stretch, it's like going to
be the right decision. I'm like, blah blah blah blah. Yes,
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it's interesting because we didn't end up selling it, so
we actually are renting that house now, and it's definitely
I would prefer to sell it because it's like, you know,
it's always not always on your mind, but it's like yes,
like I'm like, I would just rather because it's not
we have other investment properties, and it's definitely not going
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to be an investment property. It's like you live there
as your house. Yeah, And it's so funny because we
didn't sell it, so we ended up renting it and
it's definitely like negatively good. So it's definitely again it's
not the best financial situation. And I notice how how
much that brought up with childhood beliefs around will you
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always have to pick this safe money option? And again
this is like someone I've done so much money work,
Like my life is such a reflection of how much
money work I have done, and I teach money work
and it has been the best thing because I literally
feel like a different person with my money mindset. But
I had to go through this experience and still at
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this time, like we haven't sold it. It is still
on the market, but it is rented out. And it's
funny because even the conversations I've been having with my dad,
because he's like the ultimate stress case of money, and
he's like, you know, every time seeing me, he's like,
have you sold the house? What's happening? And I'm like, Dad,
it's all good, because you know, he's like, but you're
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bleeding money, like and I'm like, yeah, but Dad, when
I sell it, the money we bled is going to
be such a blip that it's like it's when you're
not gonna be worried. Trust me, You're not gonna be worried.
And I, with the reflection of him, have to constantly
move into this secure relationship with money and be like
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constantly tested. And it has been the best thing because
I feel so rock solid with it because it's like
it hasn't happened straight away. If it happened straight away,
I wouldn't have learnt what I'm currently feeling and what
I'm currently having to apply. And so I also know
it's like such a huge expansion, not even on the
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other side, because that's happening right now, but again having
that trust, having that belief system where I'm like, this
is happening for me, this is working out for me,
this is showing me the lessons. It's showing me where
I need to heal, where I need to work on,
where I need to be more secure. And if I
was to fall into victim mentality, I can. I can
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just see so clearly that path and what it would
look like. And I can also see it in a
lot of like the relationships currently. And so I think,
like I said, the best thing you can ever do
is like almost like live in that delusion. Like my
dad thinks I'm being generally delusional with what I believe,
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you know, with our properties and our financial decision. And
you know, like it's so funny because me having to
you know, because I love my dad. I'm going to
continuously have conversations with him. So it's like me having
to continuously lock in my beliefs and be so secure
in that is the challenge is the reflection, because not
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only it's hard enough you getting like on board with
the new reality to then convince other people. That's why
I actually tell people, you know, in my courses it's like,
don't tell people your dreams because it's like you need
to get on board and be so fucking one hundred percent,
like don't try and convince other people. And it's so
funny because in this experience, I'm having to not convince him.
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But it's a conversation. But I feel so good in
the conversation. I feel so secure and I feel so
like I'm like, fuck, I'm seeing money in this whole
new expanded light that Georgie three months ago saw money
so differently. And so again, I haven't even like it's
not even finished, it's not you're in pros finalized, I'm
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in process. But I can see the becoming. I can
see the expansion. I can see the person I want
to be in this scenario. Because again, it's like, for instance,
let's say I knew you know. Let's say let's just
put some numbers in that to make it an example.
Let's say you're bleeding, you know, one thousand dollars a week,
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so you're losing one thousand dollars a week for a year,
fifty two thousand dollars. But let's say the sale price,
you're going to make a million dollars would you do that?
Of course you would. I don't have that certainty, but
I'm like, of course that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Like you have certainty and self uncertainty in what's possible,
you know, I think yes, we have like we don't
need to have certainty of like knowing that no, and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Also how how doesn't matter and the exact thing doesn't matter.
It's you being so secure in the beliefs and knowing
that you're always going to be supported, You're always going
to be guided. It's always going to work out. And
I think the best thing too. If you cannot have
to see evidence of that all the time, you're unstoppable.
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If you need to see evidence of things working out,
trust me when I say you will not have a
good life, or you know, you will have an ordinary life.
If you can be the person who doesn't need to
see evidence and you can push forward in your vision
and who you want to be, you will have an
(28:55):
extraordinary life that people will look at your life and
be like what the like, how did you do that?
And you won't be able to tell them because it's
just you know, locking into your beliefs and believe, Yeah,
you're just in your energy. And that's even like I,
you know, I go on podcasts and I talk about
my story of like I once was a lawyer and
then I created this and I came from nothing and
(29:17):
this is what I have, you know, made and I
could give you my step to step of how I
did it, but you would not be able to replicate
it because there is so much invisible energy and belief
and challenges that again is so in my blueprint and
who I am that it's like you could not replicate
(29:38):
my story. And so I think if you can be
the person where you don't need evidence and you are
your own backing, you have your own support, with the
support of you know, the universe, whatever you want to
believe in, you literally become unstoppable, so powerful Georgie.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And I think even with what you were just saying
of like the evidence can be your intuition or the
evidence can be way you're feeling called. And you know,
I think a lot of people think that worry is
going to mean that you have nothing, like nothing will happen,
like your dad saying like if I'm worried about this,
or if we do the logical thing, then we'll get to
(30:17):
the solution. Whereas what you're saying is that no, I
can have this expansion and can have so much trust
and also have like how you operate in the world
will be so different than from fear and from lack.
Like when you have that knowing, it's you operate differently
in the world and.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The intention behind it. If you act from fear, if
you act from you know, there's low fights. Yeah, that's
when you lose money. If I was to now be like,
oh well, I'll just take any offer because I need
to get rid of my house, I guarantee you it's
going to be at I'm going to lose money, I'm
going to not you know, win out or I don't
know what the word is, but yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And you know, I think sometimes it can be hard
to articulate, you know, the like it's the energy behind it,
and it's the knowing. And I think sometimes you have
to trust, well you do. You have to trust until
it becomes annoying. And so you like let yourself take
in Georgie's words of Okay, it might not my body
still feels unsafe in this, but like let this be
(31:14):
somewhat of your evidence, because honestly, we're all just everyone's
just thrown up stories, everyone's just throwing up options, And
so imagine if you took this as the option rather
than the option of the fear, and it's we can
say it's a choice, but it's also like helping your
subconscious to make that choice, because your subconscious is already
making the duty now and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Just what's known.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so it's so beautiful that you're being able to
hold that because I agree with you of like having
manifestation boundaries of like who you tell, and like don't
expect people to believe in your dreams if they don't
even believe in their own And so when you can
just like be like so firm and you're getting these
little tests right now, and I'm excited for the expansion
that's going to.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Come after this. I know, like yeah it do it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And just that like that trust that you've cultivated and
that's such a test inment to you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But it's possible for everyone. I know. It's incredible, isn't it.
And again it's that blind like I would have previous Georgie,
who was still in her becoming, would have never said
that on a podcast because it's like, oh, I'm just
trying to get on board. I can't tell the world,
and that's even such a testament to like my journey
and my becoming and kind of where I'm at, because yeah,
(32:22):
I wouldn't have felt comfortable or safe in my body
to talk about a manifestation before it happened, whereas now
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Your own life.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are you ready? So please?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You mentioned about a relationship with money. How's your relationship
with money evolved over the years, and yeah, what have
you kind of what's like a knowing for in you now?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes? So the concept of money is so funny, it's
everything I grew Like I said, I grew up in
a very traditional Aussie family. My dad was a plumber,
my mom was a stay at home mom. They both
kind of, you know, came from nothing and built up.
You know, we had a very comfortable life. And in
(01:31):
saying that we were very much it was instilled. You know,
you worked very hard for money, you save your money,
money doesn't grow on trees, you know, et cetera. I
feel like that's that's very yeah, yeah, the very normal
Ossie experience. And it's so interesting because now I look
at my childhood and all my conditioning with money and
I'm like, it's just not true. It's a complete illusion.
(01:56):
And like I said, I made my career choices based
on money, and I made so many choices based on money.
And I've had the scarcity relationship with money. I've had
the abundant relationship with money. I've had to continue my
relationship with money because again, it's it's not linear, it's
not an end result. And I think if you can
(02:19):
really detach from money being this like physical you know,
notes or numbers in yeah, and you can detach from
that and you can understand that it is an energy
and you can understand that it's always going to reflect
to you your beliefs about it. So for example, you know,
(02:41):
in my relationship with my husband Tim, which I've been
with him since I was seventeen, you know, going on
thirteen years now. You know, if I was to show
up in our relationship and I wasn't to trust him,
if I was to think that he was always going
to leave, if I was to think that I've got
to work really really hard for his love to the
(03:03):
point of burnout. If I was to think that, you know,
I had to really hold on and not let him
go see his friends or do anything, because if he leaves,
he's not gonna come back. Like, how do you think
our relationship would look? We probably wouldn't have a relationship.
He'd be like, well, dude, like the fuck out I
(03:23):
was going to go? Or you know, if I imagine if
he was like having a shower and I just kept
like looking at him in the shower and just I'm
just checking you're still there, do you know what I mean? Like,
it is no different. Our relationship to money is the
same as our relationship to our partner. And you know,
I hope we all know what a healthy We don't
(03:46):
all know, sorry, but.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We all we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We've all seen what a healthy relationship can be. And
it's like, for example, in me and Tim's relationship, he
lets me go and do my thing. I've gone, you know,
and done my career and explored my purposes, and you know,
we holiday. I will go on a retreat and he
goes and does golf, and he has his interests and
(04:11):
so much trust, so much love, so much acceptance. But
the underlying is I know he's always going to be
there for me. I always give him the benefit of
the doubt. I know that if there's any anytime an
issue we communicate about it, I know I'm able to
change and evolve and he will accept and love me.
(04:33):
Like that's, you know, a foundation of a healthy relationship.
Let's say so if you have things with money, like
you constantly check your bank account, you constantly feel like
if you don't hold onto that amount of money, you're
going to be you know, less off or something bad
is going to happen. If you feel like you have
to work really really hard to the point of burnout,
(04:53):
to the point of your boundaries being broken, you are
not going to have a great experience with wealth with abundance.
And it's so interesting because we don't get taught that
that's not I'm if you have never heard someone talk
about money in that way, you'd be listening being like,
what the fuck is she on? And so it's hard
(05:15):
because all our conditioning, for you know, however old you are,
if it's you know, thirty years old, for thirty years,
you have been taught about money in a certain way,
and that's what your life has reflected. And so if
you want to change your life with money, if you
want to change your relationship with money, if you want
to have more money, if you want to have less money,
if you want to whatever, it is so simple that
(05:38):
you need to change your beliefs, what you think, what
you feel, what is in your body with your relationship
with money, and your reality has to reflect that, it
has to bend and change to reflect your beliefs. Like
our reality is just you know, our three D eight.
It's an illusion. It's not actually real, which again a
(06:00):
whole other conversation. It's just our perception. And so it's
so funny because with money, I just always go back
to those call beliefs. I always go back to well,
even if the three D is reflecting, I know, maybe
you get a bill or like something goes really wrong
or something really fucks up in business and you're you know,
(06:20):
down hundreds of thousands of dollars that doesn't actually matter
because I know I can go inwards. I can readjust things.
I can look at, Okay, well, what have I been
thinking about? What I have, what have I been integrating,
what have I been focusing on? I can readjust that,
and I know my reality has to reflect that absolutely
(06:43):
my job. It really can be that simple. But I
know it's obviously it's a whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well like, let it be that simple. But at the
same time, it's like our stories and our illusions men
make it over complicated. And what I was really hearing
from especially is this, like like anything in life when
especially with like when we're moving towards with our life
orce energy and seeing that what like that you receive
from what like there's that reciprocal energy that's coming with money,
(07:11):
And what has happened is that we've created all these
prerequisites of how it has to happen. And so in
really what you were saying, it's like, yes, we have
the mindset piece, but it's also the energetic piece of
like are you actually operating in the ways that you're
saying that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You want to operate?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Are you actually living in that way? Because we can
take out the word yeah, money for love or for
freedom or for energy, and the second that you're operating
from a place of you know, I think even just
when you were saying with the challenge there, when things
like that happen, I always see it as an opportunity
to expand and see it's to lock in and to
(07:49):
like looking like, wow, my vessel is like expanding in
this moment of how much I can hold and how
much I can do and like knowing that there's actually
going to be a lot more coming on the other
side because this idea, again it's based on this one
percent perception of our logical mind of like this bill
came in or things are really whatever right now, so
this is how it's going to be moving forward. Things
are bad, so it equals bad, rather than seeing like
(08:10):
what is the other potential that it could be happening
from this, Like I'm sure when you've had those things
happen in your business, like what the lesson that you
gained from it? Often there can be like an expensive
lesson or expensive bill, but then from that you've gained
so much more abouts money from that, you know, And
it's like seeing that Yep, I think a lot of
the time, Yeah, the conditioning. Is this like punishment that
(08:32):
we're always then continuing for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Well, it's like, for example, if I was to say
to you, if you knew for a fact that for
the next two years you wouldn't earn any money, maybe
it'd even like lose some money, but at the end
of that two years you would be given a check
of five million dollars, how would you feel? How would
you move through that time at knowing that certainty compared
(08:58):
to if you you know, because again we don't know.
We don't have that certainty. We're not supposed to. If
you move through life and you were constantly having you know,
I'm not I'm not gaining money, I'm not gaining wealth,
you know, how would you move? It's like you can
see how different that person is going to be. And
(09:18):
so that's why it's so important to not engage with
the three D, not engage with our reality, because it's
not It's never a truth unless unless you want it
to be, unless you create it, make it. Yeah, and
it's again it's I know that's a hard concept to
kind of comprehend sometimes, but also, like you said, you
(09:38):
never know what's going to happen, and so losing Let's
say you lose a bit of money for this, that
and whatever reason. If you make it mean that you're
bad with money, that you'll never have more money, et cetera,
et cetera, then that will be true for you. That
will be your story. But if you make it mean
(09:59):
this was the mo that I then went and did
the thing and then you know, sold the company for
this amount or you know whatever. There's so many stories
that we have of other people having that rock bottom
moment and then something incredible happening, or having that rock
bottom moment and something even worse happening. You actually get
to decide, and that's like I am a huge manifesto,
(10:22):
huge like law of assumption all that sort of thing,
and you really are the co creator of your life
and the universe is here to back you. But it doesn't.
It doesn't care if it's negative of positive. So if
you want to have these negative views and these negative stories,
it's going to back you, and that's what you're going
(10:43):
to get. If you want to have these incredible positive
stories and positive experience and positive challenges, it's going to
back you. It doesn't actually matter your belief system. Your
reflections is what matters.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Absolutely, and even for people that are listening now, and
you can feel your mind wanting to resist it or
your conditioning and like beautiful, just like be aware of that.
Instead of running down the stories, you can just be like, Okay,
there's a part of me that is saying, oh, that's
all well and good for you to say, or there's
a part of me that's saying that's not possible for me.
And I think sometimes we can either It's not about
(11:18):
like shaming that, It's about being like interesting, there is
this part of me there is in this like disbelief
or in this yeah, fear for self yeap, And like
how are you when you do have moments of like
doubt or fear or yeah, like self judgment?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
How how how do you operate through that? I love
this question again understanding that that's not a bad thing.
We have, you know, the inner critic, we have the doubt,
we have the ego, you know, so we don't die,
so we're not not jumping off cliffs and stuff. But
really seeing that again not as truth. Well, it can
(11:57):
be truth if you want it to be truth, but
see it as a choice and just seeing it as
your past conditioning so anytime I do have doubt or
I have things come up, I'm like, oh this is good.
I know there's still a belief system inside that is
reflecting this doubt, is reflecting this shame, is reflecting this guilt.
(12:20):
Do I want to carry that forward? And being like okay, cool,
I have this option. This is where I need to
do the work. Because again, it's so easy to say,
just have a great relationship with money, just you know,
think you're always going to be successful, but unless you're
looking internally and seeing what needs to shift, what needs
(12:42):
to move through, because again it can be simple. But
also you know, this is just a very complex example.
But to give an example, if you are someone who
has been abused, let's say by a man, and then
you have you listen to someone and they're like, menagrade.
You know, just be in a healthy relationship with a man,
(13:04):
but you have this past experience that would be trauma
inside your body. You can't just think, oh no, men,
I find men can be safe. You would have to
work through that trauma. You would have to work through
that inner experience. And of course you can work through it,
but it's sometimes not as simple as just thinking it.
(13:25):
If that makes sense. So when I do have these
situations that come up of the inner critic of the doubt,
it's showing me where I need to do the work.
And then from there it's you know, using different modality.
So for me, I am big on meditation, breath work, EFT, tapping.
(13:46):
That's kind of like my go to and I have
an app where we do all that, and so that's
my basis. If that's still feeling like the doubt's still
coming up, the shame, guilt, you know, whatever the feeling
is then and it might be you know, like I
go to a full body heal or where we do
(14:06):
a lot of different it's like ed M Marti the
I you know, those sorts of things. So yes, so
I'll go deeper. And so in that situation, it's not bad.
It's just showing me my previous past conditioning, what my body,
where my body is storing trauma, where I'm you know,
(14:27):
thinking a certain way. And it's so good when it
comes up because you have the chance to clear it.
If you never had challenges, if everything went right, like
you would never be shaped, you would never understand yourself,
you would never become and like we were saying in
our previous conversation, this beautiful life, this incredible life, is
(14:50):
about the becoming. So if you are going through something tough,
like of course, have that beautiful self compassion and love
for yourself, but also understand that it is this beautiful
opportunity to expand, to move forward, because without that you
(15:11):
would never be able to identify. And it's funny. I
saw this quote that was so beautiful and I will
try not butcher it, and she was saying, like, our
doubt is just basically like the before of our courage,
because without the doubt, without the thing stopping you, you
(15:32):
don't get to move through it. You don't get to
be the person who moves through. You don't get to
become the person who overcomes that. And so it's like
we need those experiences, We need those things, and that's
why you know, I'll talk about manifestation and people will
be like, but look at all the bad in the world,
like did that person deserve it? And it's never about
(15:53):
that person deserving it. It's never about that. But also
understanding that everyone is on their own journey and I
personally believe it's like we've all signed the slip where
it's like, this is what I want to experience. This
is the becoming I want. So we have to have
these experiences to become the person we want. So and
(16:16):
if you can have that mindset where something is going down,
like shit's going down, Shit's not good, and you can
have the mindset of like this is actually my becoming,
Like how can I lean more into this? How can
I be more uncomfortable? How can I, like we were
saying off air, Hillary of like I'm going through a
period where I'm actually having to slow down and I'm
(16:39):
having to be more present and I'm having to like
let go and surrender, and that feels so foreign to
me because my comfortable is the over overachieving, it's doing more,
it's you know, level five kind of thing. So it's
so interesting because it's so uncomfortable to slow down, to
be present, to just be still. And so that that's
(17:00):
how I know that's where I need to be. Because again,
if you just stay in the comfortable zone of what
you've always known, you can do that, but you will
never become more, you will never expand more. And again,
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All right, let's get back into the app sto.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But yeah, like right on time, almost like right everything exactly,
like exactly what you were saying of like what is
the actual whole point of it? And so if the
whole point is the becoming or is it transformation or
is the evolution or is it we say, like the
Camic correction whatever, as we said, like you come in
here with something like okay, so if we need to
(19:16):
learn something, we're going to be given those challenges, and
it's going to often be around something that we're deeply
motivated by. We're deeply motivated by love and money, and
so we'll get challenged around that because we'll we still
want those things. So if we're thinking that this in
order to get through this challenge, and I'll be able
to receive that, it's like a motivating force. And so
exactly how you said, when you can almost just that
(19:38):
shift of perspective of like this is you know, the
cliche thing, but like I was going to say, this
is not it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This is for me, life thing for me.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, it's having for me, not to me and this
idea as well of you know exactly of you need
to be scared to be brave, and yeah, you need
to doubt in order to overcome and to to have
this courage. And so when you see that, the constriction
is always going to happen right before the expansion. And
I saw it even just recently where we're selling our
(20:08):
place and we're going to go get we want to
have more land, and of course the selling process, like
the real estate agent is just like Mick's just like
why is he making it difficult? Like you know, he
took photos of our space and it's just like they're
just shitty photos. And I was like, Nick, this is
a good sign something is coming, Like we're going to
you know, this is going to be incredible process because
(20:30):
like all just these like little stupid challenges of like
you know, Nick ended up getting his own photographer in
and he was like, should we just like get another
real estate agent.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm like this is good.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Even though obviously it doesn't mean that you just sit
back and do nothing. It's like, well, okay, we've been
to you know, shift and problem solve a mode. But
knowing that this is not actually a bad sign, I
think Nick almost went down of like is this a
bad sign about selling the place? Exactly? It never never,
(21:01):
So to speak to that, please, because I think a
lot of us can even just hearing this, you might
be we can go into the victim mentality. We speak
more into that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I honestly like, the worst thing you can do in
your life is we stuck in victim mentality and think
things are going wrong and that person will perpetually have
a bad life. That's what you focus on expands. So,
(21:30):
so a great story. I love that you brought in,
you know, your property situation. So we recently moved and
it was very it was this thing. So it's interesting
because even with the relationships, Me and my husband went
through a huge challenge in our relationship, which at the time,
I was like why we've been together for so long,
We've never had issues, like why is this happening? It
(21:52):
felt very like I was in the victim mentality of
like why because he was like the one constant in
my life that I never really had to and so
we went through a huge challenge around when we had
our first daughter. It really reflected a lot of wounds
in each other and I think just having a child
is such a challenging process an initiation is. And it's
(22:16):
interesting because now that we're past that challenge, we have
such a deeper relationship. We have such a deeper connection,
which again we've been together for so long. I didn't
think that was possible. But now on the other side,
I'm like, oh my god, thank god that happened. But
during the time, it wasn't nice. And so that's you know,
that's the first thing of like, but if you get stuck,
if I was stuck in the victim mentality, if he
(22:37):
was stuck in the victim mentality, who knows what could happen.
You know, maybe we wouldn't be together or you know
that sort of you believe, yes, exactly, and so just
be very conscious of that. And I think, sorry, going
back to the property thing, we recently moved and it
came off the back of these you know, challenges where
(22:58):
we're like, we want something different for the family, want
to like have more land, we want more space, we
want Ivy to have like more of a yard, we
want the dog to have a yard. And we end
up buying a house before we sold our other primary
house and it felt like such a stretch, but I
was like, it's such a stretch, it's like going to
be the right decision. I'm like, blah blah blah blah. Yes,
(23:21):
it's interesting because we didn't end up selling it, so
we actually are renting that house now, and it's definitely
I would prefer to sell it because it's like, you know,
it's always not always on your mind, but it's like yes,
like I'm like, I would just rather because it's not
we have other investment properties, and it's definitely not going
(23:42):
to be an investment property. It's like you live there
as your house. Yeah, And it's so funny because we
didn't sell it, so we ended up renting it and
it's definitely like negatively good. So it's definitely again it's
not the best financial situation. And I notice how how
much that brought up with childhood beliefs around will you
(24:05):
always have to pick this safe money option? And again
this is like someone I've done so much money work,
Like my life is such a reflection of how much
money work I have done, and I teach money work
and it has been the best thing because I literally
feel like a different person with my money mindset. But
I had to go through this experience and still at
(24:26):
this time, like we haven't sold it. It is still
on the market, but it is rented out. And it's
funny because even the conversations I've been having with my dad,
because he's like the ultimate stress case of money, and
he's like, you know, every time seeing me, he's like,
have you sold the house? What's happening? And I'm like, Dad,
it's all good, because you know, he's like, but you're
(24:48):
bleeding money, like and I'm like, yeah, but Dad, when
I sell it, the money we bled is going to
be such a blip that it's like it's when you're
not gonna be worried. Trust me, You're not gonna be worried.
And I, with the reflection of him, have to constantly
move into this secure relationship with money and be like
(25:10):
constantly tested. And it has been the best thing because
I feel so rock solid with it because it's like
it hasn't happened straight away. If it happened straight away,
I wouldn't have learnt what I'm currently feeling and what
I'm currently having to apply. And so I also know
it's like such a huge expansion, not even on the
(25:34):
other side, because that's happening right now, but again having
that trust, having that belief system where I'm like, this
is happening for me, this is working out for me,
this is showing me the lessons. It's showing me where
I need to heal, where I need to work on,
where I need to be more secure. And if I
was to fall into victim mentality, I can. I can
(25:56):
just see so clearly that path and what it would
look like. And I can also see it in a
lot of like the relationships currently. And so I think,
like I said, the best thing you can ever do
is like almost like live in that delusion. Like my
dad thinks I'm being generally delusional with what I believe,
(26:17):
you know, with our properties and our financial decision. And
you know, like it's so funny because me having to
you know, because I love my dad. I'm going to
continuously have conversations with him. So it's like me having
to continuously lock in my beliefs and be so secure
in that is the challenge is the reflection, because not
(26:39):
only it's hard enough you getting like on board with
the new reality to then convince other people. That's why
I actually tell people, you know, in my courses it's like,
don't tell people your dreams because it's like you need
to get on board and be so fucking one hundred percent,
like don't try and convince other people. And it's so
funny because in this experience, I'm having to not convince him.
(27:02):
But it's a conversation. But I feel so good in
the conversation. I feel so secure and I feel so
like I'm like, fuck, I'm seeing money in this whole
new expanded light that Georgie three months ago saw money
so differently. And so again, I haven't even like it's
not even finished, it's not you're in pros finalized, I'm
(27:22):
in process. But I can see the becoming. I can
see the expansion. I can see the person I want
to be in this scenario. Because again, it's like, for instance,
let's say I knew you know. Let's say let's just
put some numbers in that to make it an example.
Let's say you're bleeding, you know, one thousand dollars a week,
(27:45):
so you're losing one thousand dollars a week for a year,
fifty two thousand dollars. But let's say the sale price,
you're going to make a million dollars would you do that?
Of course you would. I don't have that certainty, but
I'm like, of course that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Like you have certainty and self uncertainty in what's possible,
you know, I think yes, we have like we don't
need to have certainty of like knowing that no, and.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Also how how doesn't matter and the exact thing doesn't matter.
It's you being so secure in the beliefs and knowing
that you're always going to be supported, You're always going
to be guided. It's always going to work out. And
I think the best thing too. If you cannot have
to see evidence of that all the time, you're unstoppable.
(28:34):
If you need to see evidence of things working out,
trust me when I say you will not have a
good life, or you know, you will have an ordinary life.
If you can be the person who doesn't need to
see evidence and you can push forward in your vision
and who you want to be, you will have an
(28:55):
extraordinary life that people will look at your life and
be like what the like, how did you do that?
And you won't be able to tell them because it's
just you know, locking into your beliefs and believe, Yeah,
you're just in your energy. And that's even like I,
you know, I go on podcasts and I talk about
my story of like I once was a lawyer and
then I created this and I came from nothing and
(29:17):
this is what I have, you know, made and I
could give you my step to step of how I
did it, but you would not be able to replicate
it because there is so much invisible energy and belief
and challenges that again is so in my blueprint and
who I am that it's like you could not replicate
(29:38):
my story. And so I think if you can be
the person where you don't need evidence and you are
your own backing, you have your own support, with the
support of you know, the universe, whatever you want to
believe in, you literally become unstoppable, so powerful Georgie.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And I think even with what you were just saying
of like the evidence can be your intuition or the
evidence can be way you're feeling called. And you know,
I think a lot of people think that worry is
going to mean that you have nothing, like nothing will happen,
like your dad saying like if I'm worried about this,
or if we do the logical thing, then we'll get to
(30:17):
the solution. Whereas what you're saying is that no, I
can have this expansion and can have so much trust
and also have like how you operate in the world
will be so different than from fear and from lack.
Like when you have that knowing, it's you operate differently
in the world and.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The intention behind it. If you act from fear, if
you act from you know, there's low fights. Yeah, that's
when you lose money. If I was to now be like,
oh well, I'll just take any offer because I need
to get rid of my house, I guarantee you it's
going to be at I'm going to lose money, I'm
going to not you know, win out or I don't
know what the word is, but yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And you know, I think sometimes it can be hard
to articulate, you know, the like it's the energy behind it,
and it's the knowing. And I think sometimes you have
to trust, well you do. You have to trust until
it becomes annoying. And so you like let yourself take
in Georgie's words of Okay, it might not my body
still feels unsafe in this, but like let this be
(31:14):
somewhat of your evidence, because honestly, we're all just everyone's
just thrown up stories, everyone's just throwing up options, And
so imagine if you took this as the option rather
than the option of the fear, and it's we can
say it's a choice, but it's also like helping your
subconscious to make that choice, because your subconscious is already
making the duty now and it's.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Just what's known.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And so it's so beautiful that you're being able to
hold that because I agree with you of like having
manifestation boundaries of like who you tell, and like don't
expect people to believe in your dreams if they don't
even believe in their own And so when you can
just like be like so firm and you're getting these
little tests right now, and I'm excited for the expansion
that's going to.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Come after this. I know, like yeah it do it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And just that like that trust that you've cultivated and
that's such a test inment to you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But it's possible for everyone. I know. It's incredible, isn't it.
And again it's that blind like I would have previous Georgie,
who was still in her becoming, would have never said
that on a podcast because it's like, oh, I'm just
trying to get on board. I can't tell the world,
and that's even such a testament to like my journey
and my becoming and kind of where I'm at, because yeah,
(32:22):
I wouldn't have felt comfortable or safe in my body
to talk about a manifestation before it happened, whereas now
I'm like, I know it's going to work out. Thank
you so much for listening to this episode of the
Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed it and want more,
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