December 7, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cassania lu Kitch
and coming up on the show today, Miley Cyrus is
engaged and we're going to get into a little bit
about her partner and engagement story and kind of the
rise of the low key boyfriend that she is very
much championing and I'm all about. Plus, filmmaker Quentin Tarantino
has given an interview that has gone crazy viral. It's
(00:41):
upset half of Hollywood people are taking sides. We're going
to get into that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But first, America's Royal wedding finally has a date, we think, so.
Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift are getting married, as we
all well know, and there are some really exciting new
updates that we have about the wedding. Now it looks
like the wedding is going to be happening in just
six months time, on June the thirteenth, twenty twenty six.
(01:07):
Out For those Taylor fans, we know that thirteen is
one of her favorite numbers. Her birthdays on the thirteenth
of December, so this is her half birthday, So this
is why people think that this is.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
A legit date.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now it seems like they're going to be getting married
at the Ocean House in watch Hill, which is in
Rhode Island. Again, fans of Taytay will know that Taylor's
got a vocation home a holiday house in Rhode Island
as well, and this particular venue is right down the
road from it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So that's kind of our biggest one.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But there are a couple of other details that we
have in the Taylor Swift wedding planning.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, okay, So this next bit I have been hearing
for a few months and it was like reported on
a few podcasts because I think a few podcasters knew
the bride or like a friend of a friend. This
is how these things get out, And all of a
sudden it was picked up by all these tabloid sites
that'ce gone everywhere allegedly about Taylor Sift and Travis Kelsey
paying for this couple to move their entire wedding and
kind of just throwing a whole bunch of money at
(02:05):
the situation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These couple of So we're basically stating this woman had
suggested that her and her husband had booked this venue
for their wedding date, and an anonymous, very wealthy person
approached them and offered to pay for their wedding in
minutes in its entirety, their honeymoon, and any change fees,
(02:27):
basically to have this particular date.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now people have seen this and speculated.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That it's Taylor Swift because of all of the connections
that she has to this particular area and this particular date.
But TMZ had called the venue and actually asked if
this was the case, and they said that no, no, no,
they would never let someone by the date.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't believe that. I think she definitely did it
because she can.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And if you were the bride that had booked that date,
I would one hundred percent be like, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
If you're got to give you that much money to
change the date, no worry. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And again this was a lukey story because again I
think like a friend of a friend told someone who
said it on their podcast, and then all of a
sudden it got picked up. I think Perezhilt himself spreading
it around, and then obviously once it like caught on
like wildfire, now everyone's reporting on it. Yeah, The story
I heard was that they called and said, Oh, we've
got this other couple who really wants this venue in
the state. Would you consider changing if they covered the
(03:20):
wedding costs? And they're a bit like m because obviously,
like that's a huge kind of change to your wedding.
And then apparently they were like, oh, We're not sure.
And then they said, oh, the couple has offered to
pay not just the wedding costs or the change fees,
and cover the entire honeymoon. And so they said, Yep, absolutely,
I one hundred percent would do that. I think you'd
be mad not to. And it does kind of line
(03:41):
up like the Rhode Island thing. Obviously, like Taylor has
that beautiful house there and she always used to host
those Fourth of July I think it was, yeah, with
all her celeb friends on the beach there, and she's
done like a few back when she was like a
little less private, done some home tours and talked about
like how much that area means to her and how
special it is. And I know there's a lot of
speculation that they would have like this big European wedding
(04:02):
and they would like have like it on like the
Italian coast or something like that. But it does kind
of feel like, because they're so like traditionally American kind
of vibe, that they would have it somewhere that she
had spent time.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Taylor Swift really embodies that all American girl, and particularly
this area in the state's Rhode Island is very like
traditional American and if you look at the venue itself,
it really ties in with Taylor's aesthetic.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's got it quite cozy.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's not particularly modern. It's a very very like classic aesthetic.
And to be honest, it's not really my my vibe.
It's not like Byron Bay vibes. It's more like beachside
bowrel vibes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
If that makes sense. Yeah, it Hampton z but more traditional,
I would.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Say, yeah. And also, I guess like the thing for
them maybe looking for somewhere with like sentimental meaning, and
I guess maybe it's somewhere that would be a lot
of security that they could really shut the place down,
because we saw, like Selena Gomez's wedding, like she tried
so hard to keep the details for that a secret
and they did leak, but it kind of didn't matter
because they had all the awnings up and all the
walkways covered and everything had to be inside. I think
(05:09):
if you're a really big celebrity, you either have to
just be okay with the fact that the paparazzi shots,
like almost like a Charlie XCX, like paparazzi shots of
her wedding just went everywhere before she wanted any even
here in Australia, like Tammy Hemburro's wedding, like they had
the drone up and those those photos went live and
like Daily Mail like five minutes after she actually got married.
So don't know if there's a way to keep it secret.
If you have an outdoor wedding, there's no way to
(05:30):
keep it secret.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think it would be really distracting if you're at
a wedding venue and all you could hear was choppers
over head. I think that's the main thing that would
bother me if I were like a big Ali stard.
Not necessarily the images, of course, that would be very
frustrating for your privacy, but just the extreme noise and
stress of having people like surrounding you, and for your
(05:52):
guests as well, who aren't all celebrities, although they probably
are going to be a lot of celebrity.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It'll be like the celeb wedding of the century with
all of her celeb friends being there. And I think, yeah,
you have to have an indoor venue where you could
really like control everything. And I'm sure everything's been booked
under fake names and the guests wouldn't even know the
location until they got picked up by the venue bus.
But like, I just don't know how to keep that
a secret. It always leaks in some way, Like even
(06:17):
Lana Delray getting married with like two weeks notice next
door by you, like with crocodiles and alligators everywhere, just
her family and friends, like really no famous people, and
then there was drones everywhere that got the photos. Like
they just figure it out.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, look, we've got some other details.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We spoke a little bit about this last week about
Taylor doing like these bridesmaid proposals.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So there are some rumored bridesmaids.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
We've got Selena Gomez and Gigi who did a pretty
high up on the list as being her rumored bridesmaids.
There's also rumors that she's going to be having three
or four bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, that sounds so fun. It was like one of
the Bahamas, yeap one in Italy? Was there a Kansas
City one. There's Nashville, Oh, Nashville and New York City.
That sounds so fun.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It sounds really fun but also exhausting.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well, but also just because you know she's footing the bill.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Of course it would be her private jet.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If there's any other friend who would have that many
things in the lead up to their wedding, you would
just be like, this is exhausting, we can't keep up
with their nod bank balances too much. But just would
tell us if you know that she'd organize everything and
pay for it. And so that sounds like the most
fun lead up to a wedding for bachelorette parties.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It does sound like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So we've also got like rumors of the rest of
the bridal party. Obviously Travis's family are going to be
pretty heavily involved. We know that Taylor has a great
relationship with Travis's mum, Donna, Travis's nieces who Taylor is
really close with, and we also think that the wedding
is gone by way. I mean, obviously I'm with Taylor
in this and I'm helping her plan the wedding. There's
(07:43):
also rumors that it's going to be taking place over
the course of the entire weekend, so we're doing that
very classic wedding weekend thing that's become a massive trend
over the last decade where people don't just have a
wedding on one day. It's you have your welcome party,
you have your rehearsal dinner, you have your wedding day,
and then you have your recovery day, which is just
so popular now. I actually kind of like a nice
(08:04):
wedding weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah again, I think i'd tail usift wedding. I would
be surprised if it went for at least a week.
But as much as these details have leaked, I feel
like they'll try and keep everything else super super secret.
And I'm sure their plan was just to release their
own photos on Instagram like a week or so after.
I'm sure there'll be choppers and drones and stuff there
on the day.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But yeah, someone will find out for SUREA nana.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So from some weddings speculation to some engagement years, it's
all very loved up in Hollywood at the moment, which
is nice. It kind of goes in cycles, like we'll
have a whole bunch of engagements and weddings and then
a whole bunch of divorces and separations because they always
had bat to announce them.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But what's a nice way to end the year though,
with some love.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah. So, Miley Cyrus has confirmed that she is engaged
to drummer Max Mirando. They've been together for many years now.
Their love stories started in twenty twenty one after they
were papped together in Miami. So Miley was in town
filming a special. There were these photos of them all
on the balcony, all looking like super loved up, and
there was all these speculations around who he was and
(09:02):
whether they were together. There were a whole bunch of rumors,
and then it kind of died down because they weren't
seen together for a while, and then all of a sudden,
like they were just together everywhere. So like street paparazzis
and like some red carpet photos with a real hard launch.
Here's a fun thing that I didn't know until they
actually got engaged is that they were set up on
a blind date. I know, I love it, I love that,
and once again, I say, after we talked to the whole,
(09:22):
Megan Markau like her friends setting her out with Prince
Harry on a blind date, Miley Cyrus meeting this lovely
drummer who she just like, we're going to get into
some of the stuff she said about him just seems
super lovely. And I'll just say, the rest of the world,
my friends included, where are you. I feel like no
one says anyone else up anymore, particularly.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
In Australia, it's no one does it because everybody's so clique.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's not a thing here. But the other reason I
love this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is this is kind of after she was with Cody Simpson,
so about a year after she stopped dating Cody Simpson's
just super public because it was kind of her first
sort of major relationship after Liam, and she know she's
dating Cody Simpson, which was super super public. It was everywhere,
all of the paps were all over them. And then
she's like, it's almost like quietly dating this new men.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah. I feel like, again like they haven't been hiding
their relationship because they're not overly publicly. They walk red
carpets together, but she doesn't really post about him or
talk about him too much, and he's sort of always
just there. Like she even thanked him in her Grammy
speech when she won, but she just said my love.
And again I feel like diehard Miley Cyrus fans know
about their relationship, but kind of a vibe I was
getting once it was announced, people like, oh, I didn't
(10:30):
even know she was, Like really with that guy, Like
that's how much he just he fades into the background
in kind of like the best way ever.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And there are a lot of men that do this
in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
He's also he's a drummer, which I think a drama
in general has more of an introverted personality. Maybe I'm
like stereotyping a band, but I feel like they're happy
to be like in the background a little bit more so.
He's a drummer for this indie band out of a
like called Lily, and he's sixties younger than Miley.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He's twenty centes, which I love as well.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I also love one a well.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I feel like five and six years is kind of
in the realm of Okay, depending I think it's fine, yeah, different.
I once someone's a teenager and someone's like in their
early twenties, but I think once you get into late
twenties and thirties, it's all much of a muchness. So
when she was telling the engagement story, she said that
one of the really hard things for her is that
she controls every situation. She's the one who organizes everything,
(11:19):
and she makes all the decisions, and she just kind
of completely surrendered to the fact that she wasn't controlling this.
And then they were in Japan on this holiday and
he got down on one knee with the ring that
he had picked out, which doesn't sound like a huge,
like crazy engagement story, but reading between the lines of that,
I was kind of thinking about her like being a
child star and being like the breadwinner for her family
(11:40):
and being the one who was like kind of seems
to be like the center of organizing and being the
lynch pin of this whole family who all kind of
revolved around her. And how nice it must be to
just have someone who would take a little bit of
the responsibility off your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And the ring is really gorgeous and so not ostentatious,
and you know, it's a beautiful ring, don't get me wrong,
but it's not like those you know, massive Hollywood rings
that you sometone see that are like ten carrots. It's
just really gorgeous. Sick band feels very Miley.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And it's really cute.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I think it seems really lovely, and you know, she
said some really sweet things about him too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, so he comes from a bit of a Hollywood
family like her, but in a very different type like obviously,
her dad is Billy Ray Cyrus, the country music style
who then became no and I guess No One to
a different generation as being her dad on Hannah Montana.
But he comes from a Hollywood family in the fact
that his dad is more behind the scenes. His dad
is a producer for a whole bunch of reality shows
and his mum as a production assistant. And what I
(12:37):
kind of thought was interesting is like Miley has given
a few interviews, especially in the last couple of years,
as she's kind of like changed her music, changed her
how she wants to interact with her fans in terms
of like she's like, I'll never do like a big
stadium tour. I can't do that, I'll never do this.
I'm sort of doing more like quiet releases. And then
she got this critical acclaim that she had been chasing
for years with the Grammy nomination performance and kind of
(12:59):
talking about the fact that she'd always been seen as
as kind of bubblegum pop Disney girl or someone who
just got fans through controversy and her wanting to go
and rewrite that story. But she's given a few interviews
over the years about Max and their relationship. One thing
I thought was interesting is that she said that she
always stayed with the wrong guy, and I kind of
thought here she was really alluding to her relationship with
Liam Hamm'sworth because they were together for nearly ten years,
(13:22):
explaining that her mum, Tish Cyrus, always wanted her to
stay with the wrong guy because they're hot, but she's
finally with someone who treats her with respect. Now. I
don't know if that's giving shade to her mum. And
she said something else, it's like, that's bad parenting advice.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
No, she There's a number of other quotes so I
saw along the same vein. She's like, my mom was
telling me to pick the wrong man. In that same
sort of vein, she says, I had to learn the
hard way because my mummy taught me the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And then I had to learn the right way by myself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Really, it's like really throwing her under the bus.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, and as we know Tish Cyrus, I wellly know
a lot about that woman because she does the podcast
circuit with She's always got one of her famous daughters
with her. There's like quite a few of them. But
she and Billy Ray had like a bit of a
wild relationship and then her now husband Dominique Purcell, who
I quite love was an actor because he's been few
of my favorite shows. But they had a very messy
start to their relationship in the fact that there were
(14:11):
allegations that he was dating Noah Cyrus, who was the
youngest of the Cyrus or like down the bottom of
like one of the younger ones.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You don't know, he was dating her mother.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, this is the story confirmed this they confirmed, there
was a fallout around the wedding. No one has confirmed.
So this is an allegation just covering my basis an
allegation that he was dating or at least talking to,
Noah Cyrus, and then he met her mother, Tish and
fell in love with her. And that's why when Tyler
and American Park, Yeah, well he's much closer to her
mother's age. I know they're both in their fifties. Yeah,
(14:43):
so again he has dated younger women before. I don't
know the story, they've never confirmed that. But then on
the wedding day, they had this beautiful, like classic white
kind of wedding. Miley Cyrus is there, like standing to
her mum in a beautiful bridesmaid's dress, smiling, and then
it was like Noah and one of her other brothers
were at Costco like posting photos on the wedding day,
so it was really clear of like one half of
(15:05):
the family was there and one half of and which
they've said now they've kind of made up, but I
feel like there's a lot of stuff happening there behind
the scenes, and also the whole fall out with Billy Rays.
So yeah, I feel like Milely Syrus every time she
talks now and she's like Max is just really nice.
He treats me with respect. It's not this kind of
big crazy like she's talked about her only in Pemsworth
relationship before or around how it was always that thing
(15:26):
of like fireworks, like they broke up all the time
and they get back together, and there was always this
thing that she'd allude to that he thought she was
like a bit too much and a bit too over
the top. Yeah, and then they were married, but their
wedding kind of happened in weird circumstances from their house
burnt down. They were only married for like less than
a year, even though they were together for.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
A long time. The marriage was super fast.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, And I really feel for her and how and
why they kind of had that wedding because again, they've
been together, broken up, engaged, not sure where they wanted
to be together, so they're going back and forth. And
then they lost everything in the fire, like all of
their photos, their memories and everything. And she said that
they wanted to have the wedding so they could create
new memories, so they could have photos and mementos and
like start to like have things in their life, which
(16:08):
I totally understand. But I feel like after the wedding,
you would be like, well, all the same problems are here.
We have these wedding photos because we wanted to, like
we're probably like still in shock about losing all of
our stuff, and we wanted to have these memories. But
now that we're actually married, it's not there anymore. So yeah,
it's kind of interesting and I kind of like this
thing that a lot of the pop girls are doing
(16:28):
with their not Taylor Swift obviously, but a lot of
the pop girls are doing, like even Charlie XCX and
stuff of just like these very like low key stand
behind you boyfriends who were kind of like in the
fabric of their lives but not part of their fame story.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love this too, And the reason I think it
works so well is because it tells me that the
person that they're with is secure in their masculinity. It
feels very much like I'm happy to let my woman shine.
I don't need to be the center of attention. And
the reason I think that a lot if you really
think about David Harber and Lily Allen, for example, you
(17:06):
can see this.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So in a lot of his interviews this.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He kind of jokes about it, but he's taking digs
at Lily and he seems to be bothered by her success.
And I think a lot of actors, performers, people in
Hollywood would.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Have this ego, which I think is very natural.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
If you're a really big alist celebrity, you're going to
have an ego and you're going to need to be
hoddled a little bit because you want to lift yourself
up a little bit. But there's a lot of women
who Now in Hollywood, we've got like Emma Stone and
David McCarey, who's, you know, an SNL writer. He's with
her on all of these red carpets, but he's not
front and center. He is very happy to hold the purse,
(17:44):
let them have their moment, stand on the red carpet,
let them shine. And then even like Jennifer Lawrence and
Cook Maroni, he's an art dealer. So it's like these
women who find these men who are just.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Secure a background boyfriend, someone was happy to stay in
the background. But like is also I think kind of
like when you look at a lot of these men,
they do seem to be like super interesting and super
motivated all these things, but just like I can't think
it'd be I than someone who wants to jump in
every photo with you or wants to like do interviews
and like kind of putting you down or like making
fun of your work or something like that. Like we've
(18:16):
seen some of these pasts like super famous boyfriends do.
So I love this. I hope she's a massive blowout wedding.
I just post like all the videos and socials and
stuff so we can like live vicariously.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's what I want for it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It is going to be so different to Taylor swith sweating,
Like I actually am very excited to see like this
could be a bit of a cool girl wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
A Yeah. So Quentin Tarantino making headlines once again. I
mean there's one thing you can count on this man
for is that if he goes on a panel, does
an interview, does a podcast, in this case, he's going
to really speak his mind. And a lot of the
times people are like, yeah, we know exactly what Quentin
Tarantino is gonna say. He's got a very specific way
that he thinks movies should be made, a very specific
(18:55):
way of how he thinks people should behave and also
how people should watch movies. But in this case he
called out a couple of big names and that is
what is making headlines and also has like divided a
lot of people in Hollywood. So he went on at
Easton Ellis's podcast, So ifn' not across Brett Easton Ellis,
he's a writer and also he's done some filmmaking, but
he's the author of American Psycho and The Shads, and
(19:16):
his podcast is kind of like a bit of a
deep dive on film. So Quentin Tarantanno was on there
to discuss his top twenty movies of the twenty first century.
So he's going through them and when he gets to
his number five pick, he talks about There Will Be Blood,
the Paul Thomas Anderson Oscar Award winning film that came
out in two thousand and seven, kind of known as
(19:36):
very much one of the best movies that has come
out in the last couple of decades, huge awards suite,
people still talk about it, and he was talking about
how much he loved the movie, but then he went
on to say, it's unfortunate that it also featured the
weakest male actor in SAG which is the Screen Actors
Guild Award and also the Lympus Dick in the world.
So he really got in there. So when he was
(19:57):
talking about There Will Be Blood and why he had
it on that place on the list, he said, There
Will Be Blood would stand a better chance to be
number one or even number two if it didn't have
a giant floor, and that floor is Paul Dano obviously
it's a two hander, and it's also drastically obvious that
it's not a two hander. And he goes on to
say he's a weak sauceman, He's a weak sister. So
(20:18):
in the movie, Paul dno shares most of his scenes
with Daniel day Lewis, and he really goes on to
say in this that it was a huge letdown, kind
of not really getting into the fact that Daniel day
Lewis is known to be one of the greatest actors
of all time, and kind of just repeatedly pulling Paul
Dano's name back in and talking about how terribly he
was in the movie and how it really takes him
(20:39):
out of it. And Brett Easton Ellis throughout the pod
questions him a bit and asks him to clarify, and
he just keeps really knuckling down on this idea, which
is upset people because Paul Dano is quite a beloved
actor in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
He is, and it feels quite cruel this comment.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It feels really unnecessarily cruel to really dig at someone
like this from a movie that's like fifteen years old,
like it's been around a long time, and he is
known for being a very strong actor. A number of
reporters have come out in his defense. But you know,
Paul Dono has been in Little His Sunshine, He's been
in The Fableman's he was the Riddler in Batman, Like,
(21:17):
He's done a really big breadth of work in his filmography,
and it just seems like such a specific hate level
from him, like there's not doesn't seem to be any
sort of reason for it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess at the end of
the day, Quentin Tarantino is just like he's a filmmaker
but also like an extreme film lover. This is his
entire life, So I understand having these really passionate thoughts
and like also like I kind of do love that
he will just have an honest conversation, Like it does
make listening to him a bit more interesting. But I
also do really feel for Paul Dano in particular because
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he's not an actor who is really in the press
or in the news or who chases like any kind
of interest in his own life. I can just imagine
Paul Downo and being like like the quietest most reserved
actor in Hollywood, always like looking very humble. I can
just imagine him waking up to like the whole world
like all these headlines, these news articles, people defending him,
(22:11):
and to him just being like what because he and
his partner Zoe Cazan, the actress, have been together for
like such a long time now, they've got two kids.
They made that movie like Ruby Sparks together when they
first met, and like they've had this cute little love
story as two actors that people love who've been together
for a long time, but they're not really in the
news cycle for that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I also think that Paul Dano is very much an
actor's actor, Like he is a serious actor.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You would probably if.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You went to most people on the street and said
his name, they may not recognize it necessarily. You would
got to kind of be a film person, and having
someone like Quentin Tarantino, who is very well respected in
the film space, would be quite a dig because they
live in the same genre of filmmaking, right, they both
(22:59):
live in that area. So the director of There Will
Be Blood, Matt Reeves, did actually defend Paul on X
and he said, Paul Dado is an incredible actor and
an incredible person, very simple to the point, but I
appreciate that he said that because I think it's nice
to have the director of the movie he actually come
out and defend him. And there's obviously been a number
(23:20):
of other reporters who've defended him as well.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But yeah, it feels a bit cruel. I don't know,
it just seems unnecessary to me. Maybe I'm too night,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just I actually really love Quentin Tarantato. I think
he's a quirky, weird dude, and I love his movies.
But then I also think about, like a couple of
weeks ago, when we saw in the news Umma Therm
and giving the advice to Miya hawk On don't ever
like wear open tod shows around.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Quentin just he's obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
A very quirky jay feet and like, I'm I'm kind
of okay with that.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
With that, it's just, you know, he is a quirky dude.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He does obviously have a very specific way he makes films,
and he has very specific actors that he uses in
his films.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yes, and so I think there's a few other actors
where there are kind of maybe such huge stars they
wouldn't need anyone to defend them. So maybe people wouldn't
have jumped in, or there are some stars that are
probably difficult to work with and their fellow actors would
have been just like, yeah, you can call that guy out.
But Paul Dano has really hit a nerve because he
seems one of those actors who's just friends with everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So, like Ben Stiller came out and he put out
a statement saying Paul Danna was fucking brilliant. Sime Lu said,
I don't know, man, I think Paul Danner was an
incredible actor. Reese Witherspoon Perston was really cute. She's like,
not only is Paul Dano like one of the greatest
actors in the world, but he's also a true gentleman.
And I was like, yeah, what a thing to say.
Alec Baldwin jumped in. He's just like, I just want
to say I love Paul Danno and if you don't
(24:39):
love Paul Danno, sh so.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think the reason I think it's cruel is because
Paul is that sort of quiet type. Not that he
can't defend himself. He's clearly very successful and a great actor,
but it's just odd. But yeah, I love that all
these alists.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like Josh jumped in and said, like, one of the
best actors of our time will stop. Yeah, everyone sort
of just really jumped in to defend him. It's interesting
even though people who didn't defend him in this moment,
all of a sudden, like all these actors who talk
tried in the past, like all these stories have come back,
like the cast of Little Miss Sunshine saying like how
wonderful he was behind the scenes, or even like Michelle
(25:14):
Williams who's worked with Paul a few times, and Busy Phillips,
who's her best friend. I remember Busy Phillips telling the
story in her podcast once about how Michelle was being
honored at this big event and she thought the actress
who played her grandmother on Dawson's Creek was going to
come and introduce her, and they had this whole thing planned.
She got ill at the last moment, and so Busy
was like, Oh, it's okay because we just called Paul,
(25:34):
because Paul will always come and he'll say beautiful things
and stuff. So I just think it was the wrong
person to kind of attack. And it's kind of interesting
now because everyone's rally behind him, and now all these
people are saying like I'm going to go watch all
of Paul Dano's movies, like we should have Paul Dano Knights.
Like it's had this kind of interesting effect where people
are saying, this is the first time someone's been almost
(25:54):
like reverse canceled, because as you get canceled, all of
a sudden, everyone knows your name, and like people start
putting out stories about you that are negative and everyone
vows not to watch your movies. It's like this has
been the opposite where all of a sudden, everyone your name,
and everyone is like, we're gonna go and have like
Paul Dano watch parties.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So maybe this is like the best thing that has
ever happened to pull that in his career.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Maybe. And the thing he's probably at home being like
what like And the thing is now he's going to
be asked about this every time he does press and
he's such a kind of almost like a shy, quiet actor.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And we know that Quentin Tarantino is not going to
like renegge on this, like he's not going to back drive.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He does not care because he mentions some other actors
on there as well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and the thing is like Quentin Tarantino knows he
can say and to be honest, really do pretty much
anything he wants at the moment and there'll be kind
of no repercussions. So I think that he would sort
of see these headlines out today and just be like,
that's fine. And so as I went through the podcast,
then Brett Easthanillos was kind of like, what other actors
do you hate? Probably thinking like in a way like
this is a goalmine for my podcast, like the listeners
(26:53):
you would have. He named Owen Wilson, kind of didn't
go into too many specifics, and I think a lot
of people are just like, we love Owen Wilson. But
the other person he mentioned who has taken it really
hard is Matthew Lillard and that really upset me. I mean,
the Paul Dano thing sent me. But the thing is,
like Paul dan always such a critically acclaimed actor who's
had this incredible career. It's not going to hit him.
(27:14):
But I know Matthew Lillard has talked in the past
about feeling like rejected by Hollywood, feeling disappointed, feeling like
he didn't reach his potential, and I just know this
would have hit him really hard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
For those who are going Matthew, Little Lid, Matthew, Little Lid,
Matthew Little Scooby Doo. He plays Shaggy in the Scooby
Doo live action movies, and obviously he's in scream like
he's a comedic actor, but he's sweet.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, and he was sort of like in the I
guess late nineties early two thousands is when he had
his really huge moment. I think like Without a Paddle
was one of his big movies. Then he did like
a lot of these comedies. But yes, playing stew in
the first screen movie a perfect movie, and his performance
in it is so so good really like propelled him
to this different level of fame. And it was such
(27:57):
a thing because I think he and Nev Campbell were
dating there and they're like the hot couple. He was
like the guy. And then he's talked about the fact
that like the Scooby Doo franchise was so successful.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But also like movies objective, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I doody, I realized I.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Loved them, but objectively in terms of like criticism of
the film critics.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, not critically acclaimed. But he said he thought
after that the phone would ring a little bit more,
and I think he's ever really confirmed this, but I
think there was something to do with them not giving
him like a lot of money to sort of continue
in that franchise and giving money to other people who
are in it and all this sort of stuff. But
then he went on to have like some good supporting
roles in like the TV show Good Girls and all
these kind of things. But then he really found this
(28:37):
next stage of his career with Five Nights at Freddy's,
the horror movie that came out in twenty twenty three
that was a huge box office success. And then just
recently Five Nights at Freddy's two came out and it's
broken all of these records and like it's done. You know,
it had a really good first weekend, and as we
know at the moment, like it's so hard to get
those box office numbers. And he has come out and
(28:59):
said this movie has changed my life. So it's kind
of hard that he is in this moment of having
this career resurgence after talking about Hollywood kind of rejecting him,
and he's like, I was never funny enough to be
the funny guy. I wasn't good looking enough to be
the leading man. I kind of just fell through the cracks.
And recently he was at a fan event and he
brought up the Quentin Tarantino thing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Quentin Tarantino this week said that as an actor, the
point is is that it hurts your feelings. The fucking sucks.
And he wouldn't say that to Tom Cruise, he wouldn't
say that to somebody who's a top line actor in Hollywood.
I'm very popular in this room and not very popular
(29:39):
in Hollywood. Two totally different making possibles in the right
and so you know, it's humbling.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It hurts.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So thank you, Nick.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I really respect him for coming out and saying it hurts, and.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, And the thing is, I've seen other actors like
defend him a little bit, but there wasn't the outpouring
from all these A list stars like there was for
Paul Dano. And I also think Owhen Wilson doesn't even
know this is happening. He's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
The difference is you're punching down, and I know that
sounds awful, But Quentin Tarantino is punching down with both
of these guys in slightly different ways. Well, Dano obviously
critically acclaimed but not very well known as an A
list like Quentin Matthew Lillard, who's you know, done some
great movies like these horror movies, so we would be
a bit more Niche he's talked about having a difficult
(30:30):
career and being insecure. It just is again so unnecessary,
but it's sweet that he said something, and it's very
vulnerable for him, and I think he's going to get
a lot of support from that particular comment.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I really respected him for standing there and saying
especially now because he's I'm sure like having that first
movie be such a success when no one really thought
it would be, and then having the success of this
one and seeing people line up to go to these
fan events and him coming out to either surprise them
or talk to them before the movie would be such
a career highlight. And it's just like the timing is
so terrible as well, but also in a way kind
(31:05):
of good because if you would just sitting at home,
as he has talked about, like waiting for the phone train,
and you heard Quentin Tarantino, who has kind of thought
of as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time,
say that you're a terrible actor that were hit so hard.
So at least as he's saying that he's going into
these rooms where he knows people love him. But I
really respect him for saying it hurts because he could
have laughed off and made a joke of it, which
(31:26):
I'm sure people on his team told him to do,
because you know he's there for this like wucky, fun
horror movie. I'm sure there were people on his team saying, like,
just make a joke of it instead like kind of
going in and taking the microphone being like, hey, I'm
just wording acknowledge this terrible thing was said about me.
And it's really awful, especially coming off the news that
he's coming back to the screen franchise, which.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm so, so so.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Excited about, Like we don't know exactly how he's coming back,
but that's something that fans have been asking for for
twenty years. Like that's quite a huge thing.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well again, maybe this particular comment that has you know,
outraged people, maybe it's a good thing for both of them. Yeah,
people will jump out and defend them. I mean both
of us are defending him.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Rayl.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I've not seen a single person a Lista or Ryder
being like, oh, yeah, Quentin's right, they suck.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm sure some things are
being said in circles, but no one's going to come
out and publicly say that. I will say, like, it's
probably worth listening to the whole podcast if you're interested
in this with Breton Quintin, because like, it's a super
interesting conversation of these two men who think differently than
I do about a lot of things, but like they're
very both old school, very masculine kind of filmmakers. But
it is an interesting conversation as well if you want
(32:32):
to get the full context.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So do you want to tell anyone about some of
his favorite movies before we Yeah, And this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is where Quentin I cross paths a bit because
we have a few movies that we both love. But
his favorite movies top twenty films of the twenty first
century black Hawk Down. I mean, that's a classic boy movie.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Though, it is a good movie. But there's some movies
that all like the men who are like the Matro
film men say, and he's got a lot of those
on there. So he said, black Hawk Down, Dunkirk, Classic Boy,
there will be Blood Zodiac, Mad Max Fury Road, which
is a great movie. But he also said Toy Story
three that's so specific, not Toy Story one, not Toy
Story two, but Toy Story three, which a lot of
(33:09):
people do think is the best of all the Toy
Story movies. And he also said What's Lost in Translation,
which is kind of a perfect movie. So okay, will yeah,
we cross over there.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The one thing I really didn't like was his number
twenty spot, which is obviously the last spot on his list,
was The West Side Story, but it was a Steven
Spielberg one, and I'm really offended about that because you
cannot be the original nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah. Sorry, Well I wonder if he's even seen that.
But yes, we'll yeah, we'll link the podcast if you
guys want to have a listen.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cassania lu Kitch
and coming up on the show today, Miley Cyrus is
engaged and we're going to get into a little bit
about her partner and engagement story and kind of the
rise of the low key boyfriend that she is very
much championing and I'm all about. Plus, filmmaker Quentin Tarantino
has given an interview that has gone crazy viral. It's
(00:41):
upset half of Hollywood people are taking sides. We're going
to get into that.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But first, America's Royal wedding finally has a date, we think, so.
Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift are getting married, as we
all well know, and there are some really exciting new
updates that we have about the wedding. Now it looks
like the wedding is going to be happening in just
six months time, on June the thirteenth, twenty twenty six.
(01:07):
Out For those Taylor fans, we know that thirteen is
one of her favorite numbers. Her birthdays on the thirteenth
of December, so this is her half birthday, So this
is why people think that this is.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
A legit date.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Now it seems like they're going to be getting married
at the Ocean House in watch Hill, which is in
Rhode Island. Again, fans of Taytay will know that Taylor's
got a vocation home a holiday house in Rhode Island
as well, and this particular venue is right down the
road from it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So that's kind of our biggest one.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But there are a couple of other details that we
have in the Taylor Swift wedding planning.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, okay, So this next bit I have been hearing
for a few months and it was like reported on
a few podcasts because I think a few podcasters knew
the bride or like a friend of a friend. This
is how these things get out, And all of a
sudden it was picked up by all these tabloid sites
that'ce gone everywhere allegedly about Taylor Sift and Travis Kelsey
paying for this couple to move their entire wedding and
kind of just throwing a whole bunch of money at
(02:05):
the situation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These couple of So we're basically stating this woman had
suggested that her and her husband had booked this venue
for their wedding date, and an anonymous, very wealthy person
approached them and offered to pay for their wedding in
minutes in its entirety, their honeymoon, and any change fees,
(02:27):
basically to have this particular date.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now people have seen this and speculated.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That it's Taylor Swift because of all of the connections
that she has to this particular area and this particular date.
But TMZ had called the venue and actually asked if
this was the case, and they said that no, no, no,
they would never let someone by the date.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I don't believe that. I think she definitely did it
because she can.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And if you were the bride that had booked that date,
I would one hundred percent be like, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
If you're got to give you that much money to
change the date, no worry. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And again this was a lukey story because again I
think like a friend of a friend told someone who
said it on their podcast, and then all of a
sudden it got picked up. I think Perezhilt himself spreading
it around, and then obviously once it like caught on
like wildfire, now everyone's reporting on it. Yeah, The story
I heard was that they called and said, Oh, we've
got this other couple who really wants this venue in
the state. Would you consider changing if they covered the
(03:20):
wedding costs? And they're a bit like m because obviously,
like that's a huge kind of change to your wedding.
And then apparently they were like, oh, We're not sure.
And then they said, oh, the couple has offered to
pay not just the wedding costs or the change fees,
and cover the entire honeymoon. And so they said, Yep, absolutely,
I one hundred percent would do that. I think you'd
be mad not to. And it does kind of line
(03:41):
up like the Rhode Island thing. Obviously, like Taylor has
that beautiful house there and she always used to host
those Fourth of July I think it was, yeah, with
all her celeb friends on the beach there, and she's
done like a few back when she was like a
little less private, done some home tours and talked about
like how much that area means to her and how
special it is. And I know there's a lot of
speculation that they would have like this big European wedding
(04:02):
and they would like have like it on like the
Italian coast or something like that. But it does kind
of feel like, because they're so like traditionally American kind
of vibe, that they would have it somewhere that she
had spent time.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Taylor Swift really embodies that all American girl, and particularly
this area in the state's Rhode Island is very like
traditional American and if you look at the venue itself,
it really ties in with Taylor's aesthetic.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's got it quite cozy.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It's not particularly modern. It's a very very like classic aesthetic.
And to be honest, it's not really my my vibe.
It's not like Byron Bay vibes. It's more like beachside
bowrel vibes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
If that makes sense. Yeah, it Hampton z but more traditional,
I would.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Say, yeah. And also, I guess like the thing for
them maybe looking for somewhere with like sentimental meaning, and
I guess maybe it's somewhere that would be a lot
of security that they could really shut the place down,
because we saw, like Selena Gomez's wedding, like she tried
so hard to keep the details for that a secret
and they did leak, but it kind of didn't matter
because they had all the awnings up and all the
walkways covered and everything had to be inside. I think
(05:09):
if you're a really big celebrity, you either have to
just be okay with the fact that the paparazzi shots,
like almost like a Charlie XCX, like paparazzi shots of
her wedding just went everywhere before she wanted any even
here in Australia, like Tammy Hemburro's wedding, like they had
the drone up and those those photos went live and
like Daily Mail like five minutes after she actually got married.
So don't know if there's a way to keep it secret.
If you have an outdoor wedding, there's no way to
(05:30):
keep it secret.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think it would be really distracting if you're at
a wedding venue and all you could hear was choppers
over head. I think that's the main thing that would
bother me if I were like a big Ali stard.
Not necessarily the images, of course, that would be very
frustrating for your privacy, but just the extreme noise and
stress of having people like surrounding you, and for your
(05:52):
guests as well, who aren't all celebrities, although they probably
are going to be a lot of celebrity.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It'll be like the celeb wedding of the century with
all of her celeb friends being there. And I think, yeah,
you have to have an indoor venue where you could
really like control everything. And I'm sure everything's been booked
under fake names and the guests wouldn't even know the
location until they got picked up by the venue bus.
But like, I just don't know how to keep that
a secret. It always leaks in some way, Like even
(06:17):
Lana Delray getting married with like two weeks notice next
door by you, like with crocodiles and alligators everywhere, just
her family and friends, like really no famous people, and
then there was drones everywhere that got the photos. Like
they just figure it out.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, look, we've got some other details.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We spoke a little bit about this last week about
Taylor doing like these bridesmaid proposals.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So there are some rumored bridesmaids.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
We've got Selena Gomez and Gigi who did a pretty
high up on the list as being her rumored bridesmaids.
There's also rumors that she's going to be having three
or four bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, that sounds so fun. It was like one of
the Bahamas, yeap one in Italy? Was there a Kansas
City one. There's Nashville, Oh, Nashville and New York City.
That sounds so fun.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It sounds really fun but also exhausting.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well, but also just because you know she's footing the bill.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Of course it would be her private jet.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If there's any other friend who would have that many
things in the lead up to their wedding, you would
just be like, this is exhausting, we can't keep up
with their nod bank balances too much. But just would
tell us if you know that she'd organize everything and
pay for it. And so that sounds like the most
fun lead up to a wedding for bachelorette parties.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It does sound like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
So we've also got like rumors of the rest of
the bridal party. Obviously Travis's family are going to be
pretty heavily involved. We know that Taylor has a great
relationship with Travis's mum, Donna, Travis's nieces who Taylor is
really close with, and we also think that the wedding
is gone by way. I mean, obviously I'm with Taylor
in this and I'm helping her plan the wedding. There's
(07:43):
also rumors that it's going to be taking place over
the course of the entire weekend, so we're doing that
very classic wedding weekend thing that's become a massive trend
over the last decade where people don't just have a
wedding on one day. It's you have your welcome party,
you have your rehearsal dinner, you have your wedding day,
and then you have your recovery day, which is just
so popular now. I actually kind of like a nice
(08:04):
wedding weekend.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah again, I think i'd tail usift wedding. I would
be surprised if it went for at least a week.
But as much as these details have leaked, I feel
like they'll try and keep everything else super super secret.
And I'm sure their plan was just to release their
own photos on Instagram like a week or so after.
I'm sure there'll be choppers and drones and stuff there
on the day.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But yeah, someone will find out for SUREA nana.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So from some weddings speculation to some engagement years, it's
all very loved up in Hollywood at the moment, which
is nice. It kind of goes in cycles, like we'll
have a whole bunch of engagements and weddings and then
a whole bunch of divorces and separations because they always
had bat to announce them.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But what's a nice way to end the year though,
with some love.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah. So, Miley Cyrus has confirmed that she is engaged
to drummer Max Mirando. They've been together for many years now.
Their love stories started in twenty twenty one after they
were papped together in Miami. So Miley was in town
filming a special. There were these photos of them all
on the balcony, all looking like super loved up, and
there was all these speculations around who he was and
(09:02):
whether they were together. There were a whole bunch of rumors,
and then it kind of died down because they weren't
seen together for a while, and then all of a sudden,
like they were just together everywhere. So like street paparazzis
and like some red carpet photos with a real hard launch.
Here's a fun thing that I didn't know until they
actually got engaged is that they were set up on
a blind date. I know, I love it, I love that,
and once again, I say, after we talked to the whole,
(09:22):
Megan Markau like her friends setting her out with Prince
Harry on a blind date, Miley Cyrus meeting this lovely
drummer who she just like, we're going to get into
some of the stuff she said about him just seems
super lovely. And I'll just say, the rest of the world,
my friends included, where are you. I feel like no
one says anyone else up anymore, particularly.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
In Australia, it's no one does it because everybody's so clique.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's not a thing here. But the other reason I
love this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is this is kind of after she was with Cody Simpson,
so about a year after she stopped dating Cody Simpson's
just super public because it was kind of her first
sort of major relationship after Liam, and she know she's
dating Cody Simpson, which was super super public. It was everywhere,
all of the paps were all over them. And then
she's like, it's almost like quietly dating this new men.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah. I feel like, again like they haven't been hiding
their relationship because they're not overly publicly. They walk red
carpets together, but she doesn't really post about him or
talk about him too much, and he's sort of always
just there. Like she even thanked him in her Grammy
speech when she won, but she just said my love.
And again I feel like diehard Miley Cyrus fans know
about their relationship, but kind of a vibe I was
getting once it was announced, people like, oh, I didn't
(10:30):
even know she was, Like really with that guy, Like
that's how much he just he fades into the background
in kind of like the best way ever.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And there are a lot of men that do this
in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
He's also he's a drummer, which I think a drama
in general has more of an introverted personality. Maybe I'm
like stereotyping a band, but I feel like they're happy
to be like in the background a little bit more so.
He's a drummer for this indie band out of a
like called Lily, and he's sixties younger than Miley.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He's twenty centes, which I love as well.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I also love one a well.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I feel like five and six years is kind of
in the realm of Okay, depending I think it's fine, yeah, different.
I once someone's a teenager and someone's like in their
early twenties, but I think once you get into late
twenties and thirties, it's all much of a muchness. So
when she was telling the engagement story, she said that
one of the really hard things for her is that
she controls every situation. She's the one who organizes everything,
(11:19):
and she makes all the decisions, and she just kind
of completely surrendered to the fact that she wasn't controlling this.
And then they were in Japan on this holiday and
he got down on one knee with the ring that
he had picked out, which doesn't sound like a huge,
like crazy engagement story, but reading between the lines of that,
I was kind of thinking about her like being a
child star and being like the breadwinner for her family
(11:40):
and being the one who was like kind of seems
to be like the center of organizing and being the
lynch pin of this whole family who all kind of
revolved around her. And how nice it must be to
just have someone who would take a little bit of
the responsibility off your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And the ring is really gorgeous and so not ostentatious,
and you know, it's a beautiful ring, don't get me wrong,
but it's not like those you know, massive Hollywood rings
that you sometone see that are like ten carrots. It's
just really gorgeous. Sick band feels very Miley.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And it's really cute.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I think it seems really lovely, and you know, she
said some really sweet things about him too.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, so he comes from a bit of a Hollywood
family like her, but in a very different type like obviously,
her dad is Billy Ray Cyrus, the country music style
who then became no and I guess No One to
a different generation as being her dad on Hannah Montana.
But he comes from a Hollywood family in the fact
that his dad is more behind the scenes. His dad
is a producer for a whole bunch of reality shows
and his mum as a production assistant. And what I
(12:37):
kind of thought was interesting is like Miley has given
a few interviews, especially in the last couple of years,
as she's kind of like changed her music, changed her
how she wants to interact with her fans in terms
of like she's like, I'll never do like a big
stadium tour. I can't do that, I'll never do this.
I'm sort of doing more like quiet releases. And then
she got this critical acclaim that she had been chasing
for years with the Grammy nomination performance and kind of
(12:59):
talking about the fact that she'd always been seen as
as kind of bubblegum pop Disney girl or someone who
just got fans through controversy and her wanting to go
and rewrite that story. But she's given a few interviews
over the years about Max and their relationship. One thing
I thought was interesting is that she said that she
always stayed with the wrong guy, and I kind of
thought here she was really alluding to her relationship with
Liam Hamm'sworth because they were together for nearly ten years,
(13:22):
explaining that her mum, Tish Cyrus, always wanted her to
stay with the wrong guy because they're hot, but she's
finally with someone who treats her with respect. Now. I
don't know if that's giving shade to her mum. And
she said something else, it's like, that's bad parenting advice.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
No, she There's a number of other quotes so I
saw along the same vein. She's like, my mom was
telling me to pick the wrong man. In that same
sort of vein, she says, I had to learn the
hard way because my mummy taught me the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And then I had to learn the right way by myself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Really, it's like really throwing her under the bus.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, and as we know Tish Cyrus, I wellly know
a lot about that woman because she does the podcast
circuit with She's always got one of her famous daughters
with her. There's like quite a few of them. But
she and Billy Ray had like a bit of a
wild relationship and then her now husband Dominique Purcell, who
I quite love was an actor because he's been few
of my favorite shows. But they had a very messy
start to their relationship in the fact that there were
(14:11):
allegations that he was dating Noah Cyrus, who was the
youngest of the Cyrus or like down the bottom of
like one of the younger ones.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You don't know, he was dating her mother.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, this is the story confirmed this they confirmed, there
was a fallout around the wedding. No one has confirmed.
So this is an allegation just covering my basis an
allegation that he was dating or at least talking to,
Noah Cyrus, and then he met her mother, Tish and
fell in love with her. And that's why when Tyler
and American Park, Yeah, well he's much closer to her
mother's age. I know they're both in their fifties. Yeah,
(14:43):
so again he has dated younger women before. I don't
know the story, they've never confirmed that. But then on
the wedding day, they had this beautiful, like classic white
kind of wedding. Miley Cyrus is there, like standing to
her mum in a beautiful bridesmaid's dress, smiling, and then
it was like Noah and one of her other brothers
were at Costco like posting photos on the wedding day,
so it was really clear of like one half of
(15:05):
the family was there and one half of and which
they've said now they've kind of made up, but I
feel like there's a lot of stuff happening there behind
the scenes, and also the whole fall out with Billy Rays.
So yeah, I feel like Milely Syrus every time she
talks now and she's like Max is just really nice.
He treats me with respect. It's not this kind of
big crazy like she's talked about her only in Pemsworth
relationship before or around how it was always that thing
(15:26):
of like fireworks, like they broke up all the time
and they get back together, and there was always this
thing that she'd allude to that he thought she was
like a bit too much and a bit too over
the top. Yeah, and then they were married, but their
wedding kind of happened in weird circumstances from their house
burnt down. They were only married for like less than
a year, even though they were together for.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
A long time. The marriage was super fast.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, And I really feel for her and how and
why they kind of had that wedding because again, they've
been together, broken up, engaged, not sure where they wanted
to be together, so they're going back and forth. And
then they lost everything in the fire, like all of
their photos, their memories and everything. And she said that
they wanted to have the wedding so they could create
new memories, so they could have photos and mementos and
like start to like have things in their life, which
(16:08):
I totally understand. But I feel like after the wedding,
you would be like, well, all the same problems are here.
We have these wedding photos because we wanted to, like
we're probably like still in shock about losing all of
our stuff, and we wanted to have these memories. But
now that we're actually married, it's not there anymore. So yeah,
it's kind of interesting and I kind of like this
thing that a lot of the pop girls are doing
(16:28):
with their not Taylor Swift obviously, but a lot of
the pop girls are doing, like even Charlie XCX and
stuff of just like these very like low key stand
behind you boyfriends who were kind of like in the
fabric of their lives but not part of their fame story.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love this too, And the reason I think it
works so well is because it tells me that the
person that they're with is secure in their masculinity. It
feels very much like I'm happy to let my woman shine.
I don't need to be the center of attention. And
the reason I think that a lot if you really
think about David Harber and Lily Allen, for example, you
(17:06):
can see this.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So in a lot of his interviews this.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He kind of jokes about it, but he's taking digs
at Lily and he seems to be bothered by her success.
And I think a lot of actors, performers, people in
Hollywood would.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Have this ego, which I think is very natural.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
If you're a really big alist celebrity, you're going to
have an ego and you're going to need to be
hoddled a little bit because you want to lift yourself
up a little bit. But there's a lot of women
who Now in Hollywood, we've got like Emma Stone and
David McCarey, who's, you know, an SNL writer. He's with
her on all of these red carpets, but he's not
front and center. He is very happy to hold the purse,
(17:44):
let them have their moment, stand on the red carpet,
let them shine. And then even like Jennifer Lawrence and
Cook Maroni, he's an art dealer. So it's like these
women who find these men who are just.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Secure a background boyfriend, someone was happy to stay in
the background. But like is also I think kind of
like when you look at a lot of these men,
they do seem to be like super interesting and super
motivated all these things, but just like I can't think
it'd be I than someone who wants to jump in
every photo with you or wants to like do interviews
and like kind of putting you down or like making
fun of your work or something like that. Like we've
(18:16):
seen some of these pasts like super famous boyfriends do.
So I love this. I hope she's a massive blowout wedding.
I just post like all the videos and socials and
stuff so we can like live vicariously.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's what I want for it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It is going to be so different to Taylor swith sweating,
Like I actually am very excited to see like this
could be a bit of a cool girl wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
A Yeah. So Quentin Tarantino making headlines once again. I
mean there's one thing you can count on this man
for is that if he goes on a panel, does
an interview, does a podcast, in this case, he's going
to really speak his mind. And a lot of the
times people are like, yeah, we know exactly what Quentin
Tarantino is gonna say. He's got a very specific way
that he thinks movies should be made, a very specific
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way of how he thinks people should behave and also
how people should watch movies. But in this case he
called out a couple of big names and that is
what is making headlines and also has like divided a
lot of people in Hollywood. So he went on at
Easton Ellis's podcast, So ifn' not across Brett Easton Ellis,
he's a writer and also he's done some filmmaking, but
he's the author of American Psycho and The Shads, and
(19:16):
his podcast is kind of like a bit of a
deep dive on film. So Quentin Tarantanno was on there
to discuss his top twenty movies of the twenty first century.
So he's going through them and when he gets to
his number five pick, he talks about There Will Be Blood,
the Paul Thomas Anderson Oscar Award winning film that came
out in two thousand and seven, kind of known as
(19:36):
very much one of the best movies that has come
out in the last couple of decades, huge awards suite,
people still talk about it, and he was talking about
how much he loved the movie, but then he went
on to say, it's unfortunate that it also featured the
weakest male actor in SAG which is the Screen Actors
Guild Award and also the Lympus Dick in the world.
So he really got in there. So when he was
(19:57):
talking about There Will Be Blood and why he had
it on that place on the list, he said, There
Will Be Blood would stand a better chance to be
number one or even number two if it didn't have
a giant floor, and that floor is Paul Dano obviously
it's a two hander, and it's also drastically obvious that
it's not a two hander. And he goes on to
say he's a weak sauceman, He's a weak sister. So
(20:18):
in the movie, Paul dno shares most of his scenes
with Daniel day Lewis, and he really goes on to
say in this that it was a huge letdown, kind
of not really getting into the fact that Daniel day
Lewis is known to be one of the greatest actors
of all time, and kind of just repeatedly pulling Paul
Dano's name back in and talking about how terribly he
was in the movie and how it really takes him
(20:39):
out of it. And Brett Easton Ellis throughout the pod
questions him a bit and asks him to clarify, and
he just keeps really knuckling down on this idea, which
is upset people because Paul Dano is quite a beloved
actor in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
He is, and it feels quite cruel this comment.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It feels really unnecessarily cruel to really dig at someone
like this from a movie that's like fifteen years old,
like it's been around a long time, and he is
known for being a very strong actor. A number of
reporters have come out in his defense. But you know,
Paul Dono has been in Little His Sunshine, He's been
in The Fableman's he was the Riddler in Batman, Like,
(21:17):
He's done a really big breadth of work in his filmography,
and it just seems like such a specific hate level
from him, like there's not doesn't seem to be any
sort of reason for it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess at the end of
the day, Quentin Tarantino is just like he's a filmmaker
but also like an extreme film lover. This is his
entire life, So I understand having these really passionate thoughts
and like also like I kind of do love that
he will just have an honest conversation, Like it does
make listening to him a bit more interesting. But I
also do really feel for Paul Dano in particular because
(21:51):
he's not an actor who is really in the press
or in the news or who chases like any kind
of interest in his own life. I can just imagine
Paul Downo and being like like the quietest most reserved
actor in Hollywood, always like looking very humble. I can
just imagine him waking up to like the whole world
like all these headlines, these news articles, people defending him,
(22:11):
and to him just being like what because he and
his partner Zoe Cazan, the actress, have been together for
like such a long time now, they've got two kids.
They made that movie like Ruby Sparks together when they
first met, and like they've had this cute little love
story as two actors that people love who've been together
for a long time, but they're not really in the
news cycle for that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I also think that Paul Dano is very much an
actor's actor, Like he is a serious actor.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You would probably if.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You went to most people on the street and said
his name, they may not recognize it necessarily. You would
got to kind of be a film person, and having
someone like Quentin Tarantino, who is very well respected in
the film space, would be quite a dig because they
live in the same genre of filmmaking, right, they both
(22:59):
live in that area. So the director of There Will
Be Blood, Matt Reeves, did actually defend Paul on X
and he said, Paul Dado is an incredible actor and
an incredible person, very simple to the point, but I
appreciate that he said that because I think it's nice
to have the director of the movie he actually come
out and defend him. And there's obviously been a number
(23:20):
of other reporters who've defended him as well.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
But yeah, it feels a bit cruel. I don't know,
it just seems unnecessary to me. Maybe I'm too night,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just I actually really love Quentin Tarantato. I think
he's a quirky, weird dude, and I love his movies.
But then I also think about, like a couple of
weeks ago, when we saw in the news Umma Therm
and giving the advice to Miya hawk On don't ever
like wear open tod shows around.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Quentin just he's obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
A very quirky jay feet and like, I'm I'm kind
of okay with that.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
With that, it's just, you know, he is a quirky dude.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
He does obviously have a very specific way he makes films,
and he has very specific actors that he uses in
his films.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yes, and so I think there's a few other actors
where there are kind of maybe such huge stars they
wouldn't need anyone to defend them. So maybe people wouldn't
have jumped in, or there are some stars that are
probably difficult to work with and their fellow actors would
have been just like, yeah, you can call that guy out.
But Paul Dano has really hit a nerve because he
seems one of those actors who's just friends with everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So, like Ben Stiller came out and he put out
a statement saying Paul Danna was fucking brilliant. Sime Lu said,
I don't know, man, I think Paul Danner was an
incredible actor. Reese Witherspoon Perston was really cute. She's like,
not only is Paul Dano like one of the greatest
actors in the world, but he's also a true gentleman.
And I was like, yeah, what a thing to say.
Alec Baldwin jumped in. He's just like, I just want
to say I love Paul Danno and if you don't
(24:39):
love Paul Danno, sh so.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think the reason I think it's cruel is because
Paul is that sort of quiet type. Not that he
can't defend himself. He's clearly very successful and a great actor,
but it's just odd. But yeah, I love that all
these alists.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like Josh jumped in and said, like, one of the
best actors of our time will stop. Yeah, everyone sort
of just really jumped in to defend him. It's interesting
even though people who didn't defend him in this moment,
all of a sudden, like all these actors who talk
tried in the past, like all these stories have come back,
like the cast of Little Miss Sunshine saying like how
wonderful he was behind the scenes, or even like Michelle
(25:14):
Williams who's worked with Paul a few times, and Busy Phillips,
who's her best friend. I remember Busy Phillips telling the
story in her podcast once about how Michelle was being
honored at this big event and she thought the actress
who played her grandmother on Dawson's Creek was going to
come and introduce her, and they had this whole thing planned.
She got ill at the last moment, and so Busy
was like, Oh, it's okay because we just called Paul,
(25:34):
because Paul will always come and he'll say beautiful things
and stuff. So I just think it was the wrong
person to kind of attack. And it's kind of interesting
now because everyone's rally behind him, and now all these
people are saying like I'm going to go watch all
of Paul Dano's movies, like we should have Paul Dano Knights.
Like it's had this kind of interesting effect where people
are saying, this is the first time someone's been almost
(25:54):
like reverse canceled, because as you get canceled, all of
a sudden, everyone knows your name, and like people start
putting out stories about you that are negative and everyone
vows not to watch your movies. It's like this has
been the opposite where all of a sudden, everyone your name,
and everyone is like, we're gonna go and have like
Paul Dano watch parties.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So maybe this is like the best thing that has
ever happened to pull that in his career.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Maybe. And the thing he's probably at home being like
what like And the thing is now he's going to
be asked about this every time he does press and
he's such a kind of almost like a shy, quiet actor.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And we know that Quentin Tarantino is not going to
like renegge on this, like he's not going to back drive.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He does not care because he mentions some other actors
on there as well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and the thing is like Quentin Tarantino knows he
can say and to be honest, really do pretty much
anything he wants at the moment and there'll be kind
of no repercussions. So I think that he would sort
of see these headlines out today and just be like,
that's fine. And so as I went through the podcast,
then Brett Easthanillos was kind of like, what other actors
do you hate? Probably thinking like in a way like
this is a goalmine for my podcast, like the listeners
(26:53):
you would have. He named Owen Wilson, kind of didn't
go into too many specifics, and I think a lot
of people are just like, we love Owen Wilson. But
the other person he mentioned who has taken it really
hard is Matthew Lillard and that really upset me. I mean,
the Paul Dano thing sent me. But the thing is,
like Paul dan always such a critically acclaimed actor who's
had this incredible career. It's not going to hit him.
(27:14):
But I know Matthew Lillard has talked in the past
about feeling like rejected by Hollywood, feeling disappointed, feeling like
he didn't reach his potential, and I just know this
would have hit him really hard.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
For those who are going Matthew, Little Lid, Matthew, Little Lid,
Matthew Little Scooby Doo. He plays Shaggy in the Scooby
Doo live action movies, and obviously he's in scream like
he's a comedic actor, but he's sweet.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, and he was sort of like in the I
guess late nineties early two thousands is when he had
his really huge moment. I think like Without a Paddle
was one of his big movies. Then he did like
a lot of these comedies. But yes, playing stew in
the first screen movie a perfect movie, and his performance
in it is so so good really like propelled him
to this different level of fame. And it was such
(27:57):
a thing because I think he and Nev Campbell were
dating there and they're like the hot couple. He was
like the guy. And then he's talked about the fact
that like the Scooby Doo franchise was so successful.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But also like movies objective, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I doody, I realized I.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Loved them, but objectively in terms of like criticism of
the film critics.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, not critically acclaimed. But he said he thought
after that the phone would ring a little bit more,
and I think he's ever really confirmed this, but I
think there was something to do with them not giving
him like a lot of money to sort of continue
in that franchise and giving money to other people who
are in it and all this sort of stuff. But
then he went on to have like some good supporting
roles in like the TV show Good Girls and all
these kind of things. But then he really found this
(28:37):
next stage of his career with Five Nights at Freddy's,
the horror movie that came out in twenty twenty three
that was a huge box office success. And then just
recently Five Nights at Freddy's two came out and it's
broken all of these records and like it's done. You know,
it had a really good first weekend, and as we
know at the moment, like it's so hard to get
those box office numbers. And he has come out and
(28:59):
said this movie has changed my life. So it's kind
of hard that he is in this moment of having
this career resurgence after talking about Hollywood kind of rejecting him,
and he's like, I was never funny enough to be
the funny guy. I wasn't good looking enough to be
the leading man. I kind of just fell through the cracks.
And recently he was at a fan event and he
brought up the Quentin Tarantino thing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Quentin Tarantino this week said that as an actor, the
point is is that it hurts your feelings. The fucking sucks.
And he wouldn't say that to Tom Cruise, he wouldn't
say that to somebody who's a top line actor in Hollywood.
I'm very popular in this room and not very popular
(29:39):
in Hollywood. Two totally different making possibles in the right
and so you know, it's humbling.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It hurts.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So thank you, Nick.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I really respect him for coming out and saying it hurts, and.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, And the thing is, I've seen other actors like
defend him a little bit, but there wasn't the outpouring
from all these A list stars like there was for
Paul Dano. And I also think Owhen Wilson doesn't even
know this is happening. He's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
The difference is you're punching down, and I know that
sounds awful, But Quentin Tarantino is punching down with both
of these guys in slightly different ways. Well, Dano obviously
critically acclaimed but not very well known as an A
list like Quentin Matthew Lillard, who's you know, done some
great movies like these horror movies, so we would be
a bit more Niche he's talked about having a difficult
(30:30):
career and being insecure. It just is again so unnecessary,
but it's sweet that he said something, and it's very
vulnerable for him, and I think he's going to get
a lot of support from that particular comment.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I really respected him for standing there and saying
especially now because he's I'm sure like having that first
movie be such a success when no one really thought
it would be, and then having the success of this
one and seeing people line up to go to these
fan events and him coming out to either surprise them
or talk to them before the movie would be such
a career highlight. And it's just like the timing is
so terrible as well, but also in a way kind
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of good because if you would just sitting at home,
as he has talked about, like waiting for the phone train,
and you heard Quentin Tarantino, who has kind of thought
of as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time,
say that you're a terrible actor that were hit so hard.
So at least as he's saying that he's going into
these rooms where he knows people love him. But I
really respect him for saying it hurts because he could
have laughed off and made a joke of it, which
(31:26):
I'm sure people on his team told him to do,
because you know he's there for this like wucky, fun
horror movie. I'm sure there were people on his team saying, like,
just make a joke of it instead like kind of
going in and taking the microphone being like, hey, I'm
just wording acknowledge this terrible thing was said about me.
And it's really awful, especially coming off the news that
he's coming back to the screen franchise, which.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm so, so so.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Excited about, Like we don't know exactly how he's coming back,
but that's something that fans have been asking for for
twenty years. Like that's quite a huge thing.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well again, maybe this particular comment that has you know,
outraged people, maybe it's a good thing for both of them. Yeah,
people will jump out and defend them. I mean both
of us are defending him.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Rayl.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I've not seen a single person a Lista or Ryder
being like, oh, yeah, Quentin's right, they suck.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm sure some things are
being said in circles, but no one's going to come
out and publicly say that. I will say, like, it's
probably worth listening to the whole podcast if you're interested
in this with Breton Quintin, because like, it's a super
interesting conversation of these two men who think differently than
I do about a lot of things, but like they're
very both old school, very masculine kind of filmmakers. But
it is an interesting conversation as well if you want
(32:32):
to get the full context.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
So do you want to tell anyone about some of
his favorite movies before we Yeah, And this is the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is where Quentin I cross paths a bit because
we have a few movies that we both love. But
his favorite movies top twenty films of the twenty first
century black Hawk Down. I mean, that's a classic boy movie.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It is a good movie.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Though, it is a good movie. But there's some movies
that all like the men who are like the Matro
film men say, and he's got a lot of those
on there. So he said, black Hawk Down, Dunkirk, Classic Boy,
there will be Blood Zodiac, Mad Max Fury Road, which
is a great movie. But he also said Toy Story
three that's so specific, not Toy Story one, not Toy
Story two, but Toy Story three, which a lot of
(33:09):
people do think is the best of all the Toy
Story movies. And he also said What's Lost in Translation,
which is kind of a perfect movie. So okay, will yeah,
we cross over there.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The one thing I really didn't like was his number
twenty spot, which is obviously the last spot on his list,
was The West Side Story, but it was a Steven
Spielberg one, and I'm really offended about that because you
cannot be the original nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah. Sorry, Well I wonder if he's even seen that.
But yes, we'll yeah, we'll link the podcast if you
guys want to have a listen.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
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Speaker 3 (34:00):
Bye Bye.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
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