July 29, 2025 • 32 mins
Today on The Spill, we’re diving headfirst into Hollywood’s reboot obsession. First up: our reactions to the latest Happy Gilmore sequel—featuring Adam Sandler reprising his iconic role, a mountain of celebrity cameos, and a nostalgia-laden return.
From there, we break down the flood of classic titles headed back to production: a Devil Wears Prada 2 is officially in the works. Plus, Bend It Like Beckham 2 is on the horizon, with plans for a 2027 release. Not to mention the Freaky Friday reboot we're counting down the days for. Then comes the big question: Do we actually love this reboot boom, or are our favourite films getting dragged through the nostalgia machine? We weigh in.
We also play a game of which hypothetical reboots we’d greenlight, and which movies are too gold to remake. So whether you’re craving nostalgic comfort or mourning potential movie crimes, this episode has you covered.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Cascena Lukitch.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And coming up on the show's day, a very passionate
topic that we're going to dive into because we've bere
even had our morning meeting this morning, we just came
in and started ranting about this. A whole bunch of
new reboots have been announced, a whole bunch of new
sequels of some of our favorite movies growing up, and
it has divided the world. We're going to get into
that because some harsh truths need to be told.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, but first another sequel slash reboot.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
All my thoughts aside for this one, well, just we'll.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do this first. Because over the weekend I watched Happy
Gilmore too, Me too?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And wait when did you watch it? We'll watch it
the same time. I watched it on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I watched it Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, I put my phone in a different room. I
like blacked out my curtains. I was like, no one
talked to me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The bar was low for me. I wasn't feeling that
excited about it. My husband watched it on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Separate viewing. I love that for you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We never watched things together. Yeah, that's as it should
be because one of us is doing kids. It's just
we don't have the time to do the same shows together.
We also have a different taste.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I know that tells me you're a healthy couple.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, we'll see how we go. So I watched it
and I was really pleasantly surprised. Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Do you think it's because we went in not expecting
it to be this like big spectacle. I went in
just thinking, like, I love Adam Sandler. I love that
man so much. I love the movies he makes, and
this is just dipping a toe back into this world
he created, and that's all I want from it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
My name is Happy Gilmore. Thirty years ago I decided
to give GoF a train.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But even when you're at the top of your game,
you can always shank one.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Happy Gilmour sucks. How are you gonna put Vienna through
ballet school? It's seventy five thousand dollars a year. That's
four years. That's three hundred and thirty three grand.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's terrible math, Johnny, it's three hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Remember the Happy Place I Went to? You go to yours?
Often with these sequels that happen a long time after
the original movie, you rehash the same jokes over and
over again, which definitely happens in Happy gon War two.
We're gonna do some spoilers, so oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, well maybe not spoiler spoilers, but it's mostly all
out there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But if you haven't seen it and you like really
want to keep it to yourself, then maybe just kind
of It's.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Also, I guess, not a movie littered with plot twists,
Like you kind of know what's gonna happen to go
into it, and that's part of the comfort of knowing
that it's going to have a happy ending. There are
no plot twists.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But even though they rehashed similar jokes, it did seem
quite fresh. What they did quite a lot of is
using the old footage from the original movie and injecting
it into it, which kind of built that nostalgia up.
I think for me, some of the big big things
that I really really loved Bad Bunny. I think was
(03:28):
a real standout.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That was someone I had a bit of nerves about
about him coming in there, because I was like, I
know that man is very hot, and I know he's
got great songs, but I just didn't think he'd have
the comedic timing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Have you seen his Shrek snl' sketch?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No? No, I know he can do sketches and things.
I know he often comes on like talk shows with
like a little prepared bit, but I don't know because
he had quite a bigger part than I thought. When
I found out it was more of like a supporting
role than a cameo, That's when I got nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, I honestly think he was an absolute stand out
to me. Amazing comedic timing, so so funny, like just
his little quips, the way he played his character, Like,
I think this guy has a future in comedy. I
was blown away by him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Travis kelcey wishes you were talking about him right now.
So that's all he wants people to say about his Okay, obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We know that Travis kelce had a cameo in it,
the bit where ok here's a slight spoiler and it
was also kind of erotic. When Bad Bunny is like
pasting honey on his chest, I was like, oh, and
then something more aggressive happens. But I kind of wanted
to go through a couple of the cameos because there
(04:39):
are a lot of cameos. It is probably one of
the most cameo heavy movies I've seen in a very
long time. I think partly it's because Adam has such
a broad range of people who love to work with
him and to such an iconic movie that everybody just
wanted to be a part of it. Margaret Qually was
(04:59):
one of them. She plays a very very small role
towards the beginning, but she just wanted to be in it.
So some of the big ones we've got, obviously Marcelo Hernandez,
who plays Estebahn so he's from SNL. I think he
plays a really great role. We've got post Malone shows
up in there, Steve Buscemi, Eminem it's a blink and
(05:21):
you'll miss it Eminem cameo and I actually kind of
didn't quite realize until a few minutes, Like it really
threw me because it does not look like Eminem and
it's basically a complete family affair. Every single person in
Adam Sander's family is in this movie. Sonny Sandler plays
his actual daughter, Sadie Sandler plays another character in the show.
(05:46):
His real life wife, Jackie Sandler, plays the ballet teacher
Judy Sandler. Adam Sandler's mom is in it, like they're
all there, and then obviously Ben Stiller reprises his role.
I also really love Christopher McDonald as Shoot McGavin. I
think he really changed his character a bit. So if
(06:08):
you don't know SHOOTE mcgavon based goes insane, he ends
up in the same asylum, and I feel like he
just did such a good job of playing this like
crazed lunatic. I just thought it was touching and really nice.
But spillers may not know some of the cameos because
it's not really our vibe. Now I have an insider
(06:32):
source akaa, my husband who was telling me about all
of the golf cameos. Did you know any of this?
Like when you watched it, did you clock who was
like a golf a golf star.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I didn't know their names because I don't really follow
professional golf circles, but every time they brought in someone
who was clearly like a plant from the golfing world
playing themselves. It did kind of feel a bit obvious.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So it is basically my husband was like, oh, it's
the who's who of golf. I had no idea, but
he's like, oh, it's Rory mcenroyal and Brick Coker and Bryson.
And I was like, uh huh uh huh yep, okay,
cool yep. And there's an Ba's stars in there, there's
soccer stars in there. It is just very, very cameo heavy.
But it doesn't feel overdone to me. So anyway, needless
(07:22):
to say, I really enjoyed it. It's silly, it's funny.
It's not gonna win an Oscar, but if you enjoy
that kind of humor, you will enjoy this. Showa nana.
So we've spoken a lot about reboots and sequels and
it's kind of been a conversation that's been happening a
lot of and we've kind of taken ourselves out of
(07:42):
it because it does feel rehashed a bit, but it
does feel like it's kind of reaching fever pitch at
the moment. So today it was announced that Bendett, like Beckham,
looks like it maybe getting a sequel. We've got Fokker
in law. Ben Stilla announced that on his Instagram Devil
Wears product too Freaky of Friday. It's just really overtaking Hollywood,
(08:10):
and I feel like we kind of want to like
dissect it a little bit and like do we like
it or do we not like it?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, like I think about ten years into this conversation
when there's really reached, when I think studios and streamers
in particular started realizing that they could just take these
properties and reboot them and do sequels. And the hard
thing is that I've been like a little on board
with it because I understand why they're doing it. It's
the only way apart from like a big tent pole
like Marvel, which is also taking material that has a
(08:39):
huge fan base and making it into movies. It's the
only way a lot of studios can make money now
with the way like the film industry is collapsing, So
they know if they do a reboot or a sequel,
there's a built in audience. And so for a while
there I was kind of on board with it. But
now it's infiltrated the market so much it's just like
I feel like it's squeezed every little bit of creativity
(08:59):
and interest out. We'll just think of like the content
we've been doing recently, Happy Gone More too, I know
what you did last summer, which is a reboot and
the same kind of material talking constantly about the devil
weares prior to and practical magic too. And it's just
everything in our world at the moment is so center
on reboots and sequels. It just feels like we're in
this like constant loop now that we can't get.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Out of, and it's almost like a little bit of
you know, sucking the creativity out. You know, you start
to miss out on those original ideas, Like you think
about a movie like Parasite, which was so obviously an
Oscar winner and so revolutionary that it feels like sometimes
we miss out on those really unique and different ideas.
(09:46):
The thing is, the studios know that this is what's
going to bring in the dollars. The data doesn't lie,
and in an economy where everything is streaming, studios rely
on at our Netflix, Disney Plus stand all of these
studios rely on the data that comes from it, and
(10:08):
what the data shows them is that but this is
what is being strange, this is what is being played,
and it's almost like this emotional comfort food for viewers.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And the hard thing is, like I do feel like
a little bit of a hypocrite because I know, like
We've had a lot of shows lately where I've been like,
oh my god, practical magic too, tell me everything, hook
it to my veins kind of thing, and then at
the same time there's this like crazy fatigue. I feel
like the tipping point was actually last night for me
because I saw the news of Bend Atlefe Beckham, the
sequel in the works, and I love that movie like
every other millennial woman, Like that's such a huge moment.
(10:43):
But I also feel like it just exists in this
perfect world where I don't feel like I need to
go back into it and see those women's stories. I
feel like it exists in a moment in time. But
the point that tipped me over was about last night
at midnight and I was doing a little scroll before
I went to bed, and I saw Piper Prebo on
a panel and she was asked about a Coyote Ugly
sequel and she said, we're having conversations and it looks
(11:06):
like it's happening, and I really tossed my phone across
the room and I was like, that is an yeah,
because especially like a movie like that Cody Ugly, Like
I don't know, I'm sure assuming you love that as
a teen, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You can't see my face if you're listening, but if
you're watching a vod I am like, yeah, Like we.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Watched Segravens and pretend we were dancing on a bar,
and that's what you should do when you're like eleven
and you'd like have no idea what alcohol is like,
but you're like cosplay with your friends being drunk of
just a beautiful memory. But that movie exists in like
a moment in time where like it's based on a
Elizabeth Gilbert article that she wrote about a bar called
Cody Ugly, and then it kind of took this wish
fulfillment story that I feel like wouldn't land as much
(11:46):
now it had the music and the song and like
everything about it is just so realig I love that song.
I would die if I have a sorely and rhymes
just because like that song is my whole life. But
I also feel like, how do you recapture that now?
Like while it's going to be back at the bar
teaching a new group of women how to be cody
ugly dancers. Like I don't need to see that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I think the interesting thing with the bend at
like Beckham one, I can see there being a space
for that, particularly with like the conversations around women in
sport and the rise of like the American women's football team,
Like they have had to research and so I think
there is a new story to be told there. It
was interesting the director Grinda Shanda, this is the quote
(12:27):
she says, She's like, it's very hard with sequels. There
are very few sequels that I think really hit the
mark after the success of the first film. So I
think that's why she's been really reticent to do it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, that one I.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Can see there being some space for.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. And it's not like I want that woman to
make a movie. I even want her to make with
the same cars, like write her a blank check. I
just think like, sometimes it's got to be like a
straight sequel or nothing, Whereas I feel like sometimes back
in the day, like in the nineties, even going back
to then, they kind of had the same idea of
how to replicate success without watering it down so like
Pretty Woman, Like that was a huge success. They tried
(13:04):
to make Pretty Woman too. Every draft was just horrendous
because you're gonna have to have Richard Gear breaking up
with his prostitute lover. Like, there's no fun way to
go back into that perfect romantic moment we left them in.
So instead of making a direct sequel, they just took
the same leads, the same ride as the same cast
and made Runaway Bride. And people went to see it
because it was almost like an unofficial sequel to Pretty
(13:25):
Women without ruining the original. Let's go back to that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I think so too. I mean, I like a sequel,
but I every single time I watched them, I'm like,
is this going to ruin my childhood?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah? And that is so true.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
This is going to ruin my fond memories of that.
And we're addicted to nostalgia, Like people love it because
it makes you feel warm and fuzzy when before you
had a mortgage and kids to put to daycare and
you know, responsibilities, Like it gives you that listfulness of
that time time gone by, Like there's a reason we
(14:02):
love it. But I so often I avoid watching them
because I'm like, please don't ruin this for me.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, it's so often I'm like presently surprised. I feel
like when the screen franchise rebooted, like bringing back Nev
Cambell a lot of the other characters from the originals,
but also bringing in a new cast and like starting
that again, I felt like that was a world that
we could go back into. And I feel like the
last time I saw a sequel and I was like
really blown away by how good it was was Beetlejuice too,
(14:28):
which when I first heard of it, I was like,
we don't need it, don't go back. But I think
that was just such a strong story.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But maybe also like I like the movie Beetlejuice, but
it's not like a part of my DNA like to
some other people. So maybe that also when you have
like a bit of space from it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. I think this conversation, though about reboots and sequels
has been happening for like ten years. When we're doing
research for this, I was going back through all the
old articles of people talking these think pieces. This is
not like a new conversation. We are very very aware
of that. But let's just pull the reins back a
little bit, let's try to not reboot every single thing.
(15:08):
So with Fokker in Law, I think Foger in Law
works because we've already had meet the Parents, we had
Meet the Fokkers, we had Little Fockers, so it's already
its own cinematic universe. It is already a universe. So
I feel like that works. Although I'm confused about Ariana Grande.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Being in it, I think she probably just grew up
loving those movies and also that girl, and she's a
very good comedic actress, and she loves doing those big
comedic swings, so I think that's probably what sold her.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I will watch that one that I'm okay with the
Beckham one, but it like Beckham, I think I would
also be I think there's space for that in this
current climate. Freaky of Friday, I'm worried.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
About everything I've seen from like the trailers looks quite promising.
I haven't seen it yet. That's this weekend activity before
it comes down in cinemas. But I also think with
that like there does feel like there's a bit more
story to tell, just because Lindsay Lohan's character Anna was
a teenager at the time and now, like there's enough
story theirline without her having her own child, and like
the role reversal that's happening there, and also having like
(16:14):
Jamie Lee Curtis's character there. That what I'm kind of
okay with. I feel like the rules, not that anyone's
listening to my rules, but I love a good rule.
I think the rules are like, is there a whole
nother story to tell without going and tarnishing the original
story or was it not made for a big enough
audience the first time? And that's where I think that's
maybe more of a TV series thing, because there's so
(16:34):
many TV shows that I grew up with it as
a teen that like, I'm still completely obsessed with to
this day. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, obviously, Charmed, Roswell, all
those kind of TV shows, and a lot of those
have got reboots or in the moment they're in like
the process of getting a reboot. Literally the other day
they put up the table reef for Buffy the Vampire
(16:55):
Slayer and about twenty spillers. The second it was up
center to me and I was like, guys, I've seen
and obviously I'm sobby, but I.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Always the Charmed reboot didn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It kind of worked for a few seasons, though I'm
not in your same way. I also think it wasn't
I feel, but I never think it was going to
be because the original Charm was like a big network
television show and like it was on Thursday night's at
like eight o'clock and that was the one show on
so we all watched it, whereas the New Charmed reboot,
I think went into like a streaming world where you're
(17:24):
just watching with lots of other things, and so it's
never gonna have that hit. But I also think, like
the original Charm was all white women and a very
kind of singular story, and so when the New Charmed
came out, I was like, it doesn't matter if it's
for me. I did watch and I liked it, but
it wasn't going to hit the same way as when
I was a teen. But I think it was just
existed for a different audience. And I think that's the
same thing with the Roswell reboot, which is actually quite great,
(17:46):
but it didn't hit the same as like the original
Sherry apple Bee version that was on it when we
were teens. But I also think like it broadened out
in the world. It also made it more inclusive, it
told a different story, it was a layered story, and
maybe like we got our turn the first time around,
so it was for a new audience. So that's why
with Buffy, I'm almost like, I know why Sarah Michelle
Gella wants to do it, But I've always been of
(18:07):
the opinion that I think they should just pluck a
story from the Buffy world and go and make it
with like a whole new cast and have and let
like this generation have their own version of it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think the next iteration of this taking ideas is
going to be podcasts. So we've seen this a couple
of times. You know, We've got Dying for Sex, We've
got Shrink next Door. So it's kind of like a
lot of the times now people are picking these whether
they're true crime docs or whatever, those really big podcasts,
and those are being turned into films that I'm interested in.
(18:39):
That kind of speaks to me the same as like
a book being turned into a.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Movie, because really a book is like the only other
thing now that'll get an audience in. So it's at
the moment it's either you're taking ip from an old
movie or TV show or you're taking a book because
you need some sort of built in audience. But I
also think, like, do you think it's dumbing down our
movie experience a little bit? Because I just think like,
going to watch I Know what you did last summer,
which I loved moments of, but you're only looking at
(19:03):
it like that's a callback. That's a callback, that's a callback,
And then I think about watching that verse going in
to watch The Materialist, which I know a lot of
people had very strong feelings, like you either loved it
or you hated it, but at least we were having
this big throwdown cultural discussion about a topic and a
movie that we hadn't talked about before. And so you're
sitting in that movie and every thought in your head
has to be fresh, every opinion has to be real.
(19:25):
You're not just being like keeping a tally in your
head of how many callbacks that have been. And I
just think that that's better for our headminds.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But I think there's space for both of them.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But that's the studio. There's not space.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
But this is what I'm saying, Studios, if you're listening,
there is room for both. We can have that nostalgia.
We can do those callbacks, we can play the same
jokes like happy Gilmore too, and enjoy that and watch
it with just like a bit of love and nostalgia.
And then we can do things. We can recreate them,
we can reimagine them and use that creativity to push
(20:01):
ourselves in a different direction. But unfortunately, and this is
where it is, the numbers just don't lie.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Maybe the key is just to put Pedro Pascal and everything.
Have you seen those videos? People go into a movie
now to see, like to see the new releases, like
do you want to see Fantastic Four with Pedro Pascal?
The Materialist with Pedro Pascal or Eddington with Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I will watch anything with Petro.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think maybe he has to just be shove that
man's face on every movie poster because there's three very
different movies CG. Three very different movies and titles, but
they're pulling the same audience. So I don't know, I
feel like that man's tired. But maybe that's where at
the moment. Okay, So, as I said, we were having
a bit of after that very impassioned discussion that no
(20:44):
one in Hollyood's gonna listen to. But I feel good
that we got it off our chests.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I do too. I feel comfortable, and now I'm about
to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
In our morning meeting, which maybe we should just put
a camera in there. At the stage of the game,
we were talking about like a few movies that we
would just hate or love to see reboot it, and
our producer Minisha, who's in the room with us right now,
was like, hold that, I'm going to get a list
of movies and get your raw and honest opinions on
the pod of which ones we want to see be rebooted.
(21:15):
So we haven't seen this list, We're going to have
our real reactions. The first on the list, or Cruel Intentions,
it was rebooted as a TV show and they did
do Crawel intention It was good. They did like four
of them, five of them.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I'm gonna say no because I feel like it's been done.
And that first one I actually really like Cruel Intentions too.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, look, there's a few crauel attentions there, Like they're
so ridiculous because the first one, I'm sorry, is a
great movie, great movie, great character, is great acting, is
a sexy villain who's also a die hard feminist. What
could be better? It's so bad, So I'm going to
say no on that one. I feel like bad because
when the TV show came out, I was like, guys,
it's not that bad, and then I watched it and
(21:58):
it was that bad. Sorry, guys, that's not me. That's
a big recommendation.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, we've done it. We've seen it, and perfection doesn't
need to be exact fixed. The next one is jaw Breaker.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, no one touch Drawbreaker. Sorry, that's again a perfect movie.
You couldn't make that today.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's so problematic.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, in the best way possible. Yeah, and it's because
I hasn't seen Dawbreaker. It's got all the girls of
that time. It's got like Rose McGowan, it's got Judy Greer.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just yeah, Rose McGowan in that movie is like
the person.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
She should have got an oscar, so perfect, believe it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Villain. But I watched that when I was quite young,
and it came out when we were like watch well,
well I think I was twelve, I was younger than that.
I remember being so traumatized by the bit where they
opened the boot and there's the Jawbreaker in her throat.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So if anyone hasn't seen it, it's about some girls
that like classic girlhood stuff. They accidentally kill their best
friend and are praying, and then they remake over the
nerdy girl at school that so she won't tell that
they murdered. Hilarity ensues.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's so good, it's a really good movie. Absolutely not,
don't touch it, And what would you even do with it?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, the thing is like, there obviously is a
little retribution at the end, but I feel like today
they'd be like, oh no, everyone's beautiful and murder's wrong,
and that's not the message I want teens to have.
No that I just say, don't don't tell them that. Okay,
the next one, I feel like, we just do it. Oh,
pretty Woman? Oh I think we already made our thoughts
no one, or I made my thoughts no one, and
that what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Again? I don't think it would be made today, do
you know? It's funny. In the initial script of Pretty Woman,
there was going to be that completely different ending. It
wasn't supposed to be he saved, so she was supposed
to go back out on the streets. Yeah, and audiences
like absolutely hated it, so they changed on ending a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, the initial the initial script was really really dark,
and then she turned into a wrong com.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, and then they just turned into a beautiful makeover
wrong com where like a sex worker just gets caught
up in this fantasy world and then everybody and it's
just beautiful. Really, that's what's my version of it. I
watched as a kid over and over again. It was
my version of Cinderella. Frickin' love it. Okay, Oh, I
feel like neither of us are gonna like this one.
Center Stage is the answer to all of these just
gonna be like no, because okay, that was also a
(24:13):
perfect movie.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, center Stage. I'm not a dancer. I can't dance,
but I have a.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Sensitive about that, so thank you for Admitian.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I have a weird obsession with ballet. I'm actually listening
to a podcast at the moment about Balanchine, which is
this like amazing dancer who basically created the American ballet theater,
and I'm like really obsessed with ballet. So I actually
think Center Stage could be remade. I actually think that
one could do a reboot, not a sequel, a.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Reboot maybe it's that bringing new people to tell their stories,
because the thing is, we haven't had just a great
dance movie in I can't even remember the last time
with an ending sequence like that, And I would again
watch the hell out of that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think that one I would be okay with because
I think that the story of Ballerina is what they
go through. I have like just such a weird fascination
admiration for ballet dancers, and I would watch that. Yes,
I'm okay with that one. Next one is Bring It On.
Oh they tried it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I mean again, they've made about ten of those. But
I guess we're talking about remaking the original Bring It
On or rebooting it. You know what, I don't hate
the idea of Kirsten Dunce and Eliza dush Que, those
characters who are so different are best friends now still
in their forties and come back to the Toro's to
(25:34):
get those gals back on track and train them for
the nationals that are coming up.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I don't think happening. But you know, like.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Torrence's daughter doesn't want to be a cheerleader and Alio's
daughter does.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Okay, we could do that, and you know what, the
other thing is because of Cheer, which was a huge
chip on Netflix. You can get Gabby Butler from Cheer,
like you could bring her and you could do a
bunch of those cameos of those really amazing cheerleaders. And
I think there's space to that. You could redo that,
and I quite like the idea of.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like I like the plot that I just formulated. Yeayeah,
I think we get kiss and dunts on the phone.
She's still really in the thing of acting. Eliza Deshku
has left acting, but maybe this is the call that
would get her back. Okay, miss Congeniality.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I rewatched those movies recently.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, the first one's incredible, the second ones I.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Still like it fine. I don't think it needs to
be done.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I wonder if it needs to be like a
like take the idea from the first movie with the
same premise, so obviously different actors, because Sandra Bullock hasn't
got time for that now, and like make it into
like a limited series or something because they like, you
have to do something different, or maybe we gender swap it.
Maybe it's a like a frumpy male who needs to
go into sort of a male beauty progan or something.
(26:45):
I just feel like it needs something. You can't just
retell the same story.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think the reason why this wouldn't work is because
beauty pageants have changed so much since Yeah, Miss Congeniality
came out. Like the women that are in like these
Miss America, Miss Universe are like they're actually all like doctors,
very very intelligent philanthropists. It's not this.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Whole like ditsy just the whole Simpson thing. Well, maybe
that's the thing. Maybe when the FBI and Trump it's
not involved in it things that they're going to be.
Maybe that's the thing. Maybe the character thinks they're gonna
be dumb and she gets in there and realizes they're
actually all smarter than her, and then they sold the crime.
But you know what, I'm gonna put bump that to
the bottom of the list because like it's one that
I'm like, I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, I don't really care. But Sandra Bullock walking out
in that purple dress in the first movie, I had
a massive crush on her.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, when Mustang Sally was playing, that was just a
great moment. I feel like makeovers have really gone out
of style, and I just think the makeover like Montage
with the music, and I just think, bring it back.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I love a makeup.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Honestly, there were whole movies that were built around a
makeover montage.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
She's all that take the glasses off.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, and the whole and the whole kind of vibe
around it. All, Right, what else do you want on
the list?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Burlesque? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It's a weird, a weird, weird thing that I'm not
proud of. Is Like, I am a die hard musical
theater girl, and I have no thoughts about burlesque. I've
seen it once. It was fine. I think I stopped
watching him halfway through. It's a movie made for me,
So I feel bad about that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Laura, I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.
I feel the same way. Really, Yes, we are both
die hard musical I mean Chare and like Christina Aguilera,
like it should be something that I enjoyed, but I
just it did nothing for me.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It's such a secret shame that I carry because so
many people say to me, like we're talking about musical
movies and dance sequences and all these things. That's all
we listen to, all the music we listen to, and
then people will be like to me, and you love burlesque,
and I'm like yeah, because I'm like, I can't tell
you that I don't. It's like betraying our family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I know. I feel the same way as you. I
nothing that movie.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I don't know. I just nothing pay about perfect and
I've got friends obsessed with burlesque. You're gonna my ole
producer is gonna have a heart attack because I'm assuming
you love burl esque. Okay, well yes, okay, sorry, We're
both nothing it. So I feel like for us it
would just leave me cold. Other people, it's a perfect movie,
so maybe don't touch it. But I would love to
see Christina Aguilera back in the back in the Spotlight,
(29:09):
and I find that one can act, and boy can
she sing hot topic that no one's ever said before.
She can really sing, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That was My biggest dream as a tween was to
be able to sing like Christine aguile.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Me too, and I just can barely even lip sync
up to her level a.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Bit and the last one thirteen going on thirty, Ooh,
I think it's too problematic?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Really, why do you think it's problematic? Being on a
thirteen year old because Jennifer Gana it's got a thirteen
year old mind and.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Is macking on. It just feels a bit icky. Like
I love the movie, I've rewatched it multiple times. I
thoroughly enjoy it. But I think in today's audience, which
is very, very PC these days, I don't think it
would get past the woke culture. And I'm woke as hell,
(30:01):
like I'm very PC. I love. I am all for
it because I think it's growth, it's acceptance, it's you know,
I'm all for it, But I don't think it would
get part the ick factor. You know in Big in
Tom Hanks get big, like with a little boy, and
the boy he's like in love with an older woman.
It's like, feels weird it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Start getting together. I mean in the women's defense and
in Mark Ruffalo's defense, they don't know and why would they,
Why would they think that was a thing. I actually
think with thirteen going on thirty or suddenly thirty as
it's I would see it was the Australian title. It's
one of the few romantic comedies where I could I
feel like the romance doesn't add that much to the story.
I feel like the story for that is about the
(30:41):
magazine her career. Like, I'm all in on that storyline,
and I would watch the hell out of more movies
like that, But I feel like it's not when I
think of romantic comedies where like you so want the
leads to fall in love. It's not Suddenly thirty for me. Yeah,
it thriller, hands great, but after that, it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Definitely a B line. It's a Bee story. It's about
her kind of reassessing what she values.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
In life, right, and just that ridiculous presentation where she's like,
let's make the magazine funny again. I've always wanted your
presentation like that at work and to see how quickly
I get fired when you're just like, it's me and guys.
That's photos of me and my friends and nothing else.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's just a collage.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, and some balloons. And it's like, get this thirteen
year old out of here. She shouldn't be allowed to
walk through the doors of a magazine.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
What are you doing? Have you had a mental break.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's like they're like so worried that Sparkle's going to
steal their ideas, and it's like, no one wants your collage, sweetheart,
No one but also what a great movie. But yeah,
maybe we just leave it where it is. Well, now
we've got our thoughts on every movie that could be
remade in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I feel like we should ask our s villers. Are
there any movies that you think need to be on tough.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, or anything that you're desperate for a remake because
you're like, they didn't land the boat first time or
the plane, they didn't land the plane the first time?
To go can you? I don't know? That's some things
like a question fro another day. You could dock a boat, Yes,
if they didn't dock the boat the first time or
land a plane, then what do you think they should remake?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let us know, Well, thanks so much for listening to
the spill today, guys. Don't forget to follow us on
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So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Cascena Lukitch.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And coming up on the show's day, a very passionate
topic that we're going to dive into because we've bere
even had our morning meeting this morning, we just came
in and started ranting about this. A whole bunch of
new reboots have been announced, a whole bunch of new
sequels of some of our favorite movies growing up, and
it has divided the world. We're going to get into
that because some harsh truths need to be told.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, but first another sequel slash reboot.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
All my thoughts aside for this one, well, just we'll.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do this first. Because over the weekend I watched Happy
Gilmore too, Me too?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And wait when did you watch it? We'll watch it
the same time. I watched it on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I watched it Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, I put my phone in a different room. I
like blacked out my curtains. I was like, no one
talked to me.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
The bar was low for me. I wasn't feeling that
excited about it. My husband watched it on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Separate viewing. I love that for you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We never watched things together. Yeah, that's as it should
be because one of us is doing kids. It's just
we don't have the time to do the same shows together.
We also have a different taste.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I know that tells me you're a healthy couple.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, we'll see how we go. So I watched it
and I was really pleasantly surprised. Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Do you think it's because we went in not expecting
it to be this like big spectacle. I went in
just thinking, like, I love Adam Sandler. I love that
man so much. I love the movies he makes, and
this is just dipping a toe back into this world
he created, and that's all I want from it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
My name is Happy Gilmore. Thirty years ago I decided
to give GoF a train.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But even when you're at the top of your game,
you can always shank one.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Happy Gilmour sucks. How are you gonna put Vienna through
ballet school? It's seventy five thousand dollars a year. That's
four years. That's three hundred and thirty three grand.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's terrible math, Johnny, it's three hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Remember the Happy Place I Went to? You go to yours?
Often with these sequels that happen a long time after
the original movie, you rehash the same jokes over and
over again, which definitely happens in Happy gon War two.
We're gonna do some spoilers, so oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, well maybe not spoiler spoilers, but it's mostly all
out there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But if you haven't seen it and you like really
want to keep it to yourself, then maybe just kind
of It's.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Also, I guess, not a movie littered with plot twists,
Like you kind of know what's gonna happen to go
into it, and that's part of the comfort of knowing
that it's going to have a happy ending. There are
no plot twists.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But even though they rehashed similar jokes, it did seem
quite fresh. What they did quite a lot of is
using the old footage from the original movie and injecting
it into it, which kind of built that nostalgia up.
I think for me, some of the big big things
that I really really loved Bad Bunny. I think was
(03:28):
a real standout.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That was someone I had a bit of nerves about
about him coming in there, because I was like, I
know that man is very hot, and I know he's
got great songs, but I just didn't think he'd have
the comedic timing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Have you seen his Shrek snl' sketch?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No? No, I know he can do sketches and things.
I know he often comes on like talk shows with
like a little prepared bit, but I don't know because
he had quite a bigger part than I thought. When
I found out it was more of like a supporting
role than a cameo, That's when I got nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, I honestly think he was an absolute stand out
to me. Amazing comedic timing, so so funny, like just
his little quips, the way he played his character, Like,
I think this guy has a future in comedy. I
was blown away by him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Travis kelcey wishes you were talking about him right now.
So that's all he wants people to say about his Okay, obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We know that Travis kelce had a cameo in it,
the bit where ok here's a slight spoiler and it
was also kind of erotic. When Bad Bunny is like
pasting honey on his chest, I was like, oh, and
then something more aggressive happens. But I kind of wanted
to go through a couple of the cameos because there
(04:39):
are a lot of cameos. It is probably one of
the most cameo heavy movies I've seen in a very
long time. I think partly it's because Adam has such
a broad range of people who love to work with
him and to such an iconic movie that everybody just
wanted to be a part of it. Margaret Qually was
(04:59):
one of them. She plays a very very small role
towards the beginning, but she just wanted to be in it.
So some of the big ones we've got, obviously Marcelo Hernandez,
who plays Estebahn so he's from SNL. I think he
plays a really great role. We've got post Malone shows
up in there, Steve Buscemi, Eminem it's a blink and
(05:21):
you'll miss it Eminem cameo and I actually kind of
didn't quite realize until a few minutes, Like it really
threw me because it does not look like Eminem and
it's basically a complete family affair. Every single person in
Adam Sander's family is in this movie. Sonny Sandler plays
his actual daughter, Sadie Sandler plays another character in the show.
(05:46):
His real life wife, Jackie Sandler, plays the ballet teacher
Judy Sandler. Adam Sandler's mom is in it, like they're
all there, and then obviously Ben Stiller reprises his role.
I also really love Christopher McDonald as Shoot McGavin. I
think he really changed his character a bit. So if
(06:08):
you don't know SHOOTE mcgavon based goes insane, he ends
up in the same asylum, and I feel like he
just did such a good job of playing this like
crazed lunatic. I just thought it was touching and really nice.
But spillers may not know some of the cameos because
it's not really our vibe. Now I have an insider
(06:32):
source akaa, my husband who was telling me about all
of the golf cameos. Did you know any of this?
Like when you watched it, did you clock who was
like a golf a golf star.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I didn't know their names because I don't really follow
professional golf circles, but every time they brought in someone
who was clearly like a plant from the golfing world
playing themselves. It did kind of feel a bit obvious.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So it is basically my husband was like, oh, it's
the who's who of golf. I had no idea, but
he's like, oh, it's Rory mcenroyal and Brick Coker and Bryson.
And I was like, uh huh uh huh yep, okay,
cool yep. And there's an Ba's stars in there, there's
soccer stars in there. It is just very, very cameo heavy.
But it doesn't feel overdone to me. So anyway, needless
(07:22):
to say, I really enjoyed it. It's silly, it's funny.
It's not gonna win an Oscar, but if you enjoy
that kind of humor, you will enjoy this. Showa nana.
So we've spoken a lot about reboots and sequels and
it's kind of been a conversation that's been happening a
lot of and we've kind of taken ourselves out of
(07:42):
it because it does feel rehashed a bit, but it
does feel like it's kind of reaching fever pitch at
the moment. So today it was announced that Bendett, like Beckham,
looks like it maybe getting a sequel. We've got Fokker
in law. Ben Stilla announced that on his Instagram Devil
Wears product too Freaky of Friday. It's just really overtaking Hollywood,
(08:10):
and I feel like we kind of want to like
dissect it a little bit and like do we like
it or do we not like it?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, like I think about ten years into this conversation
when there's really reached, when I think studios and streamers
in particular started realizing that they could just take these
properties and reboot them and do sequels. And the hard
thing is that I've been like a little on board
with it because I understand why they're doing it. It's
the only way apart from like a big tent pole
like Marvel, which is also taking material that has a
(08:39):
huge fan base and making it into movies. It's the
only way a lot of studios can make money now
with the way like the film industry is collapsing, So
they know if they do a reboot or a sequel,
there's a built in audience. And so for a while
there I was kind of on board with it. But
now it's infiltrated the market so much it's just like
I feel like it's squeezed every little bit of creativity
(08:59):
and interest out. We'll just think of like the content
we've been doing recently, Happy Gone More too, I know
what you did last summer, which is a reboot and
the same kind of material talking constantly about the devil
weares prior to and practical magic too. And it's just
everything in our world at the moment is so center
on reboots and sequels. It just feels like we're in
this like constant loop now that we can't get.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Out of, and it's almost like a little bit of
you know, sucking the creativity out. You know, you start
to miss out on those original ideas, Like you think
about a movie like Parasite, which was so obviously an
Oscar winner and so revolutionary that it feels like sometimes
we miss out on those really unique and different ideas.
(09:46):
The thing is, the studios know that this is what's
going to bring in the dollars. The data doesn't lie,
and in an economy where everything is streaming, studios rely
on at our Netflix, Disney Plus stand all of these
studios rely on the data that comes from it, and
(10:08):
what the data shows them is that but this is
what is being strange, this is what is being played,
and it's almost like this emotional comfort food for viewers.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And the hard thing is, like I do feel like
a little bit of a hypocrite because I know, like
We've had a lot of shows lately where I've been like,
oh my god, practical magic too, tell me everything, hook
it to my veins kind of thing, and then at
the same time there's this like crazy fatigue. I feel
like the tipping point was actually last night for me
because I saw the news of Bend Atlefe Beckham, the
sequel in the works, and I love that movie like
every other millennial woman, Like that's such a huge moment.
(10:43):
But I also feel like it just exists in this
perfect world where I don't feel like I need to
go back into it and see those women's stories. I
feel like it exists in a moment in time. But
the point that tipped me over was about last night
at midnight and I was doing a little scroll before
I went to bed, and I saw Piper Prebo on
a panel and she was asked about a Coyote Ugly
sequel and she said, we're having conversations and it looks
(11:06):
like it's happening, and I really tossed my phone across
the room and I was like, that is an yeah,
because especially like a movie like that Cody Ugly, Like
I don't know, I'm sure assuming you love that as
a teen, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You can't see my face if you're listening, but if
you're watching a vod I am like, yeah, Like we.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Watched Segravens and pretend we were dancing on a bar,
and that's what you should do when you're like eleven
and you'd like have no idea what alcohol is like,
but you're like cosplay with your friends being drunk of
just a beautiful memory. But that movie exists in like
a moment in time where like it's based on a
Elizabeth Gilbert article that she wrote about a bar called
Cody Ugly, and then it kind of took this wish
fulfillment story that I feel like wouldn't land as much
(11:46):
now it had the music and the song and like
everything about it is just so realig I love that song.
I would die if I have a sorely and rhymes
just because like that song is my whole life. But
I also feel like, how do you recapture that now?
Like while it's going to be back at the bar
teaching a new group of women how to be cody
ugly dancers. Like I don't need to see that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I think the interesting thing with the bend at
like Beckham one, I can see there being a space
for that, particularly with like the conversations around women in
sport and the rise of like the American women's football team,
Like they have had to research and so I think
there is a new story to be told there. It
was interesting the director Grinda Shanda, this is the quote
(12:27):
she says, She's like, it's very hard with sequels. There
are very few sequels that I think really hit the
mark after the success of the first film. So I
think that's why she's been really reticent to do it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, that one I.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Can see there being some space for.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. And it's not like I want that woman to
make a movie. I even want her to make with
the same cars, like write her a blank check. I
just think like, sometimes it's got to be like a
straight sequel or nothing, Whereas I feel like sometimes back
in the day, like in the nineties, even going back
to then, they kind of had the same idea of
how to replicate success without watering it down so like
Pretty Woman, Like that was a huge success. They tried
(13:04):
to make Pretty Woman too. Every draft was just horrendous
because you're gonna have to have Richard Gear breaking up
with his prostitute lover. Like, there's no fun way to
go back into that perfect romantic moment we left them in.
So instead of making a direct sequel, they just took
the same leads, the same ride as the same cast
and made Runaway Bride. And people went to see it
because it was almost like an unofficial sequel to Pretty
(13:25):
Women without ruining the original. Let's go back to that.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I think so too. I mean, I like a sequel,
but I every single time I watched them, I'm like,
is this going to ruin my childhood?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah? And that is so true.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
This is going to ruin my fond memories of that.
And we're addicted to nostalgia, Like people love it because
it makes you feel warm and fuzzy when before you
had a mortgage and kids to put to daycare and
you know, responsibilities, Like it gives you that listfulness of
that time time gone by, Like there's a reason we
(14:02):
love it. But I so often I avoid watching them
because I'm like, please don't ruin this for me.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, it's so often I'm like presently surprised. I feel
like when the screen franchise rebooted, like bringing back Nev
Cambell a lot of the other characters from the originals,
but also bringing in a new cast and like starting
that again, I felt like that was a world that
we could go back into. And I feel like the
last time I saw a sequel and I was like
really blown away by how good it was was Beetlejuice too,
(14:28):
which when I first heard of it, I was like,
we don't need it, don't go back. But I think
that was just such a strong story.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It worked.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But maybe also like I like the movie Beetlejuice, but
it's not like a part of my DNA like to
some other people. So maybe that also when you have
like a bit of space from it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. I think this conversation, though about reboots and sequels
has been happening for like ten years. When we're doing
research for this, I was going back through all the
old articles of people talking these think pieces. This is
not like a new conversation. We are very very aware
of that. But let's just pull the reins back a
little bit, let's try to not reboot every single thing.
(15:08):
So with Fokker in Law, I think Foger in Law
works because we've already had meet the Parents, we had
Meet the Fokkers, we had Little Fockers, so it's already
its own cinematic universe. It is already a universe. So
I feel like that works. Although I'm confused about Ariana Grande.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Being in it, I think she probably just grew up
loving those movies and also that girl, and she's a
very good comedic actress, and she loves doing those big
comedic swings, so I think that's probably what sold her.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I will watch that one that I'm okay with the
Beckham one, but it like Beckham, I think I would
also be I think there's space for that in this
current climate. Freaky of Friday, I'm worried.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
About everything I've seen from like the trailers looks quite promising.
I haven't seen it yet. That's this weekend activity before
it comes down in cinemas. But I also think with
that like there does feel like there's a bit more
story to tell, just because Lindsay Lohan's character Anna was
a teenager at the time and now, like there's enough
story theirline without her having her own child, and like
the role reversal that's happening there, and also having like
(16:14):
Jamie Lee Curtis's character there. That what I'm kind of
okay with. I feel like the rules, not that anyone's
listening to my rules, but I love a good rule.
I think the rules are like, is there a whole
nother story to tell without going and tarnishing the original
story or was it not made for a big enough
audience the first time? And that's where I think that's
maybe more of a TV series thing, because there's so
(16:34):
many TV shows that I grew up with it as
a teen that like, I'm still completely obsessed with to
this day. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, obviously, Charmed, Roswell, all
those kind of TV shows, and a lot of those
have got reboots or in the moment they're in like
the process of getting a reboot. Literally the other day
they put up the table reef for Buffy the Vampire
(16:55):
Slayer and about twenty spillers. The second it was up
center to me and I was like, guys, I've seen
and obviously I'm sobby, but I.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Always the Charmed reboot didn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It kind of worked for a few seasons, though I'm
not in your same way. I also think it wasn't
I feel, but I never think it was going to
be because the original Charm was like a big network
television show and like it was on Thursday night's at
like eight o'clock and that was the one show on
so we all watched it, whereas the New Charmed reboot,
I think went into like a streaming world where you're
(17:24):
just watching with lots of other things, and so it's
never gonna have that hit. But I also think, like
the original Charm was all white women and a very
kind of singular story, and so when the New Charmed
came out, I was like, it doesn't matter if it's
for me. I did watch and I liked it, but
it wasn't going to hit the same way as when
I was a teen. But I think it was just
existed for a different audience. And I think that's the
same thing with the Roswell reboot, which is actually quite great,
(17:46):
but it didn't hit the same as like the original
Sherry apple Bee version that was on it when we
were teens. But I also think like it broadened out
in the world. It also made it more inclusive, it
told a different story, it was a layered story, and
maybe like we got our turn the first time around,
so it was for a new audience. So that's why
with Buffy, I'm almost like, I know why Sarah Michelle
Gella wants to do it, But I've always been of
(18:07):
the opinion that I think they should just pluck a
story from the Buffy world and go and make it
with like a whole new cast and have and let
like this generation have their own version of it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think the next iteration of this taking ideas is
going to be podcasts. So we've seen this a couple
of times. You know, We've got Dying for Sex, We've
got Shrink next Door. So it's kind of like a
lot of the times now people are picking these whether
they're true crime docs or whatever, those really big podcasts,
and those are being turned into films that I'm interested in.
(18:39):
That kind of speaks to me the same as like
a book being turned into a.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Movie, because really a book is like the only other
thing now that'll get an audience in. So it's at
the moment it's either you're taking ip from an old
movie or TV show or you're taking a book because
you need some sort of built in audience. But I
also think, like, do you think it's dumbing down our
movie experience a little bit? Because I just think like,
going to watch I Know what you did last summer,
which I loved moments of, but you're only looking at
(19:03):
it like that's a callback. That's a callback, that's a callback,
And then I think about watching that verse going in
to watch The Materialist, which I know a lot of
people had very strong feelings, like you either loved it
or you hated it, but at least we were having
this big throwdown cultural discussion about a topic and a
movie that we hadn't talked about before. And so you're
sitting in that movie and every thought in your head
has to be fresh, every opinion has to be real.
(19:25):
You're not just being like keeping a tally in your
head of how many callbacks that have been. And I
just think that that's better for our headminds.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But I think there's space for both of them.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But that's the studio. There's not space.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
But this is what I'm saying, Studios, if you're listening,
there is room for both. We can have that nostalgia.
We can do those callbacks, we can play the same
jokes like happy Gilmore too, and enjoy that and watch
it with just like a bit of love and nostalgia.
And then we can do things. We can recreate them,
we can reimagine them and use that creativity to push
(20:01):
ourselves in a different direction. But unfortunately, and this is
where it is, the numbers just don't lie.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Maybe the key is just to put Pedro Pascal and everything.
Have you seen those videos? People go into a movie
now to see, like to see the new releases, like
do you want to see Fantastic Four with Pedro Pascal?
The Materialist with Pedro Pascal or Eddington with Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I will watch anything with Petro.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think maybe he has to just be shove that
man's face on every movie poster because there's three very
different movies CG. Three very different movies and titles, but
they're pulling the same audience. So I don't know, I
feel like that man's tired. But maybe that's where at
the moment. Okay, So, as I said, we were having
a bit of after that very impassioned discussion that no
(20:44):
one in Hollyood's gonna listen to. But I feel good
that we got it off our chests.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I do too. I feel comfortable, and now I'm about
to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
In our morning meeting, which maybe we should just put
a camera in there. At the stage of the game,
we were talking about like a few movies that we
would just hate or love to see reboot it, and
our producer Minisha, who's in the room with us right now,
was like, hold that, I'm going to get a list
of movies and get your raw and honest opinions on
the pod of which ones we want to see be rebooted.
(21:15):
So we haven't seen this list, We're going to have
our real reactions. The first on the list, or Cruel Intentions,
it was rebooted as a TV show and they did
do Crawel intention It was good. They did like four
of them, five of them.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I'm gonna say no because I feel like it's been done.
And that first one I actually really like Cruel Intentions too.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, look, there's a few crauel attentions there, Like they're
so ridiculous because the first one, I'm sorry, is a
great movie, great movie, great character, is great acting, is
a sexy villain who's also a die hard feminist. What
could be better? It's so bad, So I'm going to
say no on that one. I feel like bad because
when the TV show came out, I was like, guys,
it's not that bad, and then I watched it and
(21:58):
it was that bad. Sorry, guys, that's not me. That's
a big recommendation.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, we've done it. We've seen it, and perfection doesn't
need to be exact fixed. The next one is jaw Breaker.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, no one touch Drawbreaker. Sorry, that's again a perfect movie.
You couldn't make that today.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's so problematic.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, in the best way possible. Yeah, and it's because
I hasn't seen Dawbreaker. It's got all the girls of
that time. It's got like Rose McGowan, it's got Judy Greer.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just yeah, Rose McGowan in that movie is like
the person.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
She should have got an oscar, so perfect, believe it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Villain. But I watched that when I was quite young,
and it came out when we were like watch well,
well I think I was twelve, I was younger than that.
I remember being so traumatized by the bit where they
opened the boot and there's the Jawbreaker in her throat.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So if anyone hasn't seen it, it's about some girls
that like classic girlhood stuff. They accidentally kill their best
friend and are praying, and then they remake over the
nerdy girl at school that so she won't tell that
they murdered. Hilarity ensues.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's so good, it's a really good movie. Absolutely not,
don't touch it, And what would you even do with it?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, the thing is like, there obviously is a
little retribution at the end, but I feel like today
they'd be like, oh no, everyone's beautiful and murder's wrong,
and that's not the message I want teens to have.
No that I just say, don't don't tell them that. Okay,
the next one, I feel like, we just do it. Oh,
pretty Woman? Oh I think we already made our thoughts
no one, or I made my thoughts no one, and
that what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Again? I don't think it would be made today, do
you know? It's funny. In the initial script of Pretty Woman,
there was going to be that completely different ending. It
wasn't supposed to be he saved, so she was supposed
to go back out on the streets. Yeah, and audiences
like absolutely hated it, so they changed on ending a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, the initial the initial script was really really dark,
and then she turned into a wrong com.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, and then they just turned into a beautiful makeover
wrong com where like a sex worker just gets caught
up in this fantasy world and then everybody and it's
just beautiful. Really, that's what's my version of it. I
watched as a kid over and over again. It was
my version of Cinderella. Frickin' love it. Okay, Oh, I
feel like neither of us are gonna like this one.
Center Stage is the answer to all of these just
gonna be like no, because okay, that was also a
(24:13):
perfect movie.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, center Stage. I'm not a dancer. I can't dance,
but I have a.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Sensitive about that, so thank you for Admitian.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I have a weird obsession with ballet. I'm actually listening
to a podcast at the moment about Balanchine, which is
this like amazing dancer who basically created the American ballet theater,
and I'm like really obsessed with ballet. So I actually
think Center Stage could be remade. I actually think that
one could do a reboot, not a sequel, a.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Reboot maybe it's that bringing new people to tell their stories,
because the thing is, we haven't had just a great
dance movie in I can't even remember the last time
with an ending sequence like that, And I would again
watch the hell out of that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think that one I would be okay with because
I think that the story of Ballerina is what they
go through. I have like just such a weird fascination
admiration for ballet dancers, and I would watch that. Yes,
I'm okay with that one. Next one is Bring It On.
Oh they tried it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I mean again, they've made about ten of those. But
I guess we're talking about remaking the original Bring It
On or rebooting it. You know what, I don't hate
the idea of Kirsten Dunce and Eliza dush Que, those
characters who are so different are best friends now still
in their forties and come back to the Toro's to
(25:34):
get those gals back on track and train them for
the nationals that are coming up.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I don't think happening. But you know, like.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Torrence's daughter doesn't want to be a cheerleader and Alio's
daughter does.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Okay, we could do that, and you know what, the
other thing is because of Cheer, which was a huge
chip on Netflix. You can get Gabby Butler from Cheer,
like you could bring her and you could do a
bunch of those cameos of those really amazing cheerleaders. And
I think there's space to that. You could redo that,
and I quite like the idea of.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like I like the plot that I just formulated. Yeayeah,
I think we get kiss and dunts on the phone.
She's still really in the thing of acting. Eliza Deshku
has left acting, but maybe this is the call that
would get her back. Okay, miss Congeniality.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I rewatched those movies recently.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, the first one's incredible, the second ones I.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Still like it fine. I don't think it needs to
be done.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I wonder if it needs to be like a
like take the idea from the first movie with the
same premise, so obviously different actors, because Sandra Bullock hasn't
got time for that now, and like make it into
like a limited series or something because they like, you
have to do something different, or maybe we gender swap it.
Maybe it's a like a frumpy male who needs to
go into sort of a male beauty progan or something.
(26:45):
I just feel like it needs something. You can't just
retell the same story.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think the reason why this wouldn't work is because
beauty pageants have changed so much since Yeah, Miss Congeniality
came out. Like the women that are in like these
Miss America, Miss Universe are like they're actually all like doctors,
very very intelligent philanthropists. It's not this.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Whole like ditsy just the whole Simpson thing. Well, maybe
that's the thing. Maybe when the FBI and Trump it's
not involved in it things that they're going to be.
Maybe that's the thing. Maybe the character thinks they're gonna
be dumb and she gets in there and realizes they're
actually all smarter than her, and then they sold the crime.
But you know what, I'm gonna put bump that to
the bottom of the list because like it's one that
I'm like, I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, I don't really care. But Sandra Bullock walking out
in that purple dress in the first movie, I had
a massive crush on her.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, when Mustang Sally was playing, that was just a
great moment. I feel like makeovers have really gone out
of style, and I just think the makeover like Montage
with the music, and I just think, bring it back.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I love a makeup.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Honestly, there were whole movies that were built around a
makeover montage.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
She's all that take the glasses off.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, and the whole and the whole kind of vibe
around it. All, Right, what else do you want on
the list?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Burlesque? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It's a weird, a weird, weird thing that I'm not
proud of. Is Like, I am a die hard musical
theater girl, and I have no thoughts about burlesque. I've
seen it once. It was fine. I think I stopped
watching him halfway through. It's a movie made for me,
So I feel bad about that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Laura, I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this.
I feel the same way. Really, Yes, we are both
die hard musical I mean Chare and like Christina Aguilera,
like it should be something that I enjoyed, but I
just it did nothing for me.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
It's such a secret shame that I carry because so
many people say to me, like we're talking about musical
movies and dance sequences and all these things. That's all
we listen to, all the music we listen to, and
then people will be like to me, and you love burlesque,
and I'm like yeah, because I'm like, I can't tell
you that I don't. It's like betraying our family.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I know. I feel the same way as you. I
nothing that movie.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I don't know. I just nothing pay about perfect and
I've got friends obsessed with burlesque. You're gonna my ole
producer is gonna have a heart attack because I'm assuming
you love burl esque. Okay, well yes, okay, sorry, We're
both nothing it. So I feel like for us it
would just leave me cold. Other people, it's a perfect movie,
so maybe don't touch it. But I would love to
see Christina Aguilera back in the back in the Spotlight,
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and I find that one can act, and boy can
she sing hot topic that no one's ever said before.
She can really sing, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That was My biggest dream as a tween was to
be able to sing like Christine aguile.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Me too, and I just can barely even lip sync
up to her level a.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Bit and the last one thirteen going on thirty, Ooh,
I think it's too problematic?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Really, why do you think it's problematic? Being on a
thirteen year old because Jennifer Gana it's got a thirteen
year old mind and.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Is macking on. It just feels a bit icky. Like
I love the movie, I've rewatched it multiple times. I
thoroughly enjoy it. But I think in today's audience, which
is very, very PC these days, I don't think it
would get past the woke culture. And I'm woke as hell,
(30:01):
like I'm very PC. I love. I am all for
it because I think it's growth, it's acceptance, it's you know,
I'm all for it, But I don't think it would
get part the ick factor. You know in Big in
Tom Hanks get big, like with a little boy, and
the boy he's like in love with an older woman.
It's like, feels weird it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Start getting together. I mean in the women's defense and
in Mark Ruffalo's defense, they don't know and why would they,
Why would they think that was a thing. I actually
think with thirteen going on thirty or suddenly thirty as
it's I would see it was the Australian title. It's
one of the few romantic comedies where I could I
feel like the romance doesn't add that much to the story.
I feel like the story for that is about the
(30:41):
magazine her career. Like, I'm all in on that storyline,
and I would watch the hell out of more movies
like that, But I feel like it's not when I
think of romantic comedies where like you so want the
leads to fall in love. It's not Suddenly thirty for me. Yeah,
it thriller, hands great, but after that, it's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Definitely a B line. It's a Bee story. It's about
her kind of reassessing what she values.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
In life, right, and just that ridiculous presentation where she's like,
let's make the magazine funny again. I've always wanted your
presentation like that at work and to see how quickly
I get fired when you're just like, it's me and guys.
That's photos of me and my friends and nothing else.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's just a collage.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, and some balloons. And it's like, get this thirteen
year old out of here. She shouldn't be allowed to
walk through the doors of a magazine.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
What are you doing? Have you had a mental break.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's like they're like so worried that Sparkle's going to
steal their ideas, and it's like, no one wants your collage, sweetheart,
No one but also what a great movie. But yeah,
maybe we just leave it where it is. Well, now
we've got our thoughts on every movie that could be
remade in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I feel like we should ask our s villers. Are
there any movies that you think need to be on tough.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yes, or anything that you're desperate for a remake because
you're like, they didn't land the boat first time or
the plane, they didn't land the plane the first time?
To go can you? I don't know? That's some things
like a question fro another day. You could dock a boat, Yes,
if they didn't dock the boat the first time or
land a plane, then what do you think they should remake?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let us know, Well, thanks so much for listening to
the spill today, guys. Don't forget to follow us on
TikTok oh. Yeah there and very very happy to be
there as Fills. Produced by manishis Warren with sound production
by Scott Stronik. Catch the News you need to know
at eight am with Ash London on Morning Tea and
we'll see you back in the feed at three pm tomorrow.
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