March 31, 2025 • 31 mins
In the biggest movie news delivered to us this year, the cast of Avengers: Doomsday has been announced and the cast list is stacked with names you never saw coming.
Plus, Prince Harry released a very dramatic statement about why he had to exit the charity he founded, only for the chairperson of the charity to accuse him of bullying her, among other very damaging accusations. There’s a reason you haven’t seen these damning allegations about Prince Harry filling your news feeds, so we’re here to fill you in.
And Sydney Sweeney has been seen hanging out with her Anyone But You co-star Glen Powell, after she most definitely called off her upcoming wedding. Is there any truth to this new romance?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on From Mama Mia.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm
Em Burnham and I'm Laura Brodney. Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Happy Monday to you. We both had a massive week
and we haven't podcasted together for a while. We're back
on our orange couch together.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We haven't. This feels really nice.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So we just talked for like half an hour before
we started. We had so much lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We had a lot to catch up on. I had
a big wedding. It feels like my wedding. It wasn't
my wedding. It was my cousin's wedding. I feel like
it was your wedding.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like while I was away on my holiday this week,
I was like, I hope M's wedding's going well.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The anticipation for this wedding, everyone in my life just
knew about it. It did go well, it was and you
were away seeing family you loved us in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, well, I went away for a big beach to
get away because despite being very pale on someone who
shouldn't be the sun. I love the beach. So I
went to the Sunshine Coast for three days of beach
each time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And there was no sunshine, torrential rain.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I actually at one stage did just wade into the
ocean in the leve like a thunderstorm, like I have
to touch it, and I nearly died. But apart from that, yeah,
then I went to Brisbane, saw my families. That was lovely.
Just wasn't the epic holiday I have planned it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, now you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I did go to all I had to go up
to Malaney because it was just raining everywhere else. And
I went to this bar called Spill Wine and I
took all these photos it's our bar, me pointing at
the sign, being like spill Wine, because I was like,
it's kind of just like our podcast anyway, I think, yeah,
I was taking photos of the menus and side. I'm
posted anything yet, but I was just like, is this
(01:48):
an extension for us? But I think it nearly got
me kicked out. I wanted to say to them, don't
you know who I am. I'm the host of the
spill Comcast and you're the spill Wine bar.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm the owner of your bar.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I get this. Something started here, but instead that didn't work.
But anyway, we're back in Podland today, which is good
because so much stuff has happened over the weekend. We
have a potential hot new Hollywood romance and I know
everyone's very excited about. I think I'm going to ruin
it with some background information, but that's okay, Oh no,
say it. You can't get into this account. Also, Prince
Harry a bully. That's the headline we need to talk about,
(02:19):
which I know you're also not across. But first, we
have some breaking movie news that happened a few days ago,
but I'm still quite shell shocked by it, so I'm
still going to call it breaking news.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, tell me this breaking news because I have a
feeling I know exactly what we're going to talk about.
The issue is is that you weren't around to talk
about it. I know, so I just had to be
excited about myself.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So this is the question that I was saying to
everyone over the weekend as I interacted with family, friends
and strangers after the whole high How are you? Yeah,
lots of rain, So how do you feel about the
original X Men being in the new Avengers movie is
what I asked everyone, because this weekend six years after
Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's been that long.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's been six years. I can still feel it in
my soul. I've never cried so much during a movie.
That and Wicked are the only two times I've cried
so much. I cried so much after Avengers Endgame because
just like the buildup of over a decade and the
deaths and how emotional it was. Then my Uber driver
pulled over and asked me if I was okay, and
I said I just saw Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's like, I get it, and drink that's so nice.
So many fan favorite characters in that movie.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, which is very hard I know. So Anyway, now
the next Avengers movie is coming out, and during a
nearly five and a half hour live stream that Marvel
Studios did to announce all of their new projects and casting,
they announced the forecasting, or at least the forecasting they're
going to tell us because you know, surprise cameos are
(03:43):
a thing of the next Avengers movie, which is called
Avengers Doomsday. And the way they did this is that
they had a video of all the you know, when
you're on a movie set. You might not know, but
when you're in a movie set, you have the classic
kind of the folding chairs, and if you're a like
director chair, yeah, that is very uncomfortable, Yes, but I
guess they're easy to move around sets. And that's an
(04:06):
iconic kind of old Hollywood thing because if you're a
big enough star, you have your name on the back
of the chairs. Now we can take your chair, which
is something we should incorporate into this office. Take people's chairs.
And so the camera slowly panned along the chairs and
we started seeing names like Tom Holland and Chris Hemsworth,
Tommy Bilsten, Anthony Macki, Paul Rudd, Letitia Wright, Simeulu, Danny Ramirez,
(04:31):
and Winston Duke. That's all very exciting, but they're all
names that we knew were going to be in the
New Avengers movie because they're still very much part of
the Marvel Cinematic universe.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Some of them aren't all Avengers though, like they make
in the universe, and I think this will be the
first time we see them in the Avenger team.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly. So, like Danny Ramirez, the Falcon from like
the Last Captain of America, movie, Winston Duke Imbuku from
the Black Panther franchise. So not saying they're going to
be completely like in The Avengers, or they might be,
but they're definitely in the new movie. Also Tom Hidlston
return of a super villain. We love that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, how does he get out? Because isn't he here?
So he's in the low key right now the TV
show and he's kind of like trapped in this like
time world.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, I'm like, mom, we's to come back to explanation
for that. We also have Sebastian Stan Florence Pugh who's
also already been in a Marvel universe quite a bit,
Wyatt Russell, the Internet's Boyfriend, David Harbor, Hannah, John Kaman,
and Lewis Pullman. And then this is where things got
really interesting. The camera panned along past all those names
who we kind of knew was still in the universe.
(05:33):
They weren't a huge surprise to include the original X
Men actors from the early two thousands movies that kicked
off the big screen adaptation of the X Men comic books.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Can I just say yes? The X Men series is
my favorite movies of all time. I had a phone
case with like the cartoon gambit on it. Oh, it
was I like this movie so much.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Everything about X Men is just the perfect franchise. Like,
I'm such a huge fan of the original comics. The
original animated series is better than most live action series
that I've watched.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And we've talked about X Men ninety seven so many
times exactly the award would critically acclaimed series that came
out recently, which we'd love.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But the early two thousands adapted the source material into
these big movies and that became a huge thing. So
when this video that came out of the Last couple
of Days showed the names Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen who
obviously played Professor Xavier and Magneto in the original movies,
James Marsden, Cyclops, the original Rebecca Raman Mistay, Yes, back
(06:36):
in the day was Rebecca Raman Stamos when she was
married to John Stamos and then they had that huge breakup.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I thought she died though spoilers.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, Rebecca, no, Well they all pretty much died, although
prot has been in the Marvel universe over the years.
But James Marston, also infamously a Cyclops, died at the
hands of Jean Gray, his love in the final X
Men movie.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh but then Logan brought them all back. He went
back in time and brought them all back. Yes, so
there's a lot of different movies. We should do like
a recap of every X Men, like.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A seven hour per movie podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Then we also have stars from X two, X Men United.
So we have Alan Cumming as Night Crawl Out, Kelsey
Grammar back as the Beast. And why did this name
make me so happy? This man in his silly dream
that I care so much about. I am going to
say Channing Tatum, who tried to play Gambit for I
want to say twenty years, tried to get a Gambit
movie off the ground, was in production, even started doing
(07:34):
like a bit of you know, like leaking and impressed
that he was happening, and then it just stooled. And
then the studio that was doing the movies stopped making
the movies. And it was this whole thing. So when
he came back in the last Deadpool and Wolverine movie,
well he played gamb but for the first time you
heard me scream, right, Yeah, it came out.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I really liked him as Gambit. I have to admit.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people didn't think he
could do it, but he did quite a good job.
So he's been trying to play his character of for
twenty years and the fact that he's now in the
Marvel Cinematic Universe massive deal. We also have the new
cast of the next Fantastic Four movies, so they're rebooting
that again as to the last one was just a
complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And is this the first time the Fantastic Four, Like
they've done so many Fantastic Four movies with so many
different casts, and is this the first time where they're
including the Fantastic Four within the other universes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So it's been like a twenty year thing to get
the X Men characters integrated into the Marvel universe, which
is a whole backstory of like studios and ownership that
I won't get into now because again, that is a
ten hour podcast. It's also the first time, yes, the
Fantastic Four, this new iteration is going to be in
the Marvel universe. We have Pedro Pascal who's playing Mister Fantastic, Yes,
Vanessa Kirby, the Invisible Woman, Ebon Moas Bacarat who es
(08:41):
people would love from the Bear from the Bear, and
Joseph Quinn who's playing the human Torch. Oh, I love
Joseph quinns so, and then there was a whole bunch
of names in there, and then the camera pandlong and
there was one person sitting in the very last chair
and it was Robert Downey Jr. Who is playing Doctor
Doom in the New movies. And he's wearing a suit
and tie and he just looked at the camera and
(09:01):
goes sh And then it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Is I wonder how much they paid?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So that was old bean. He's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can I just say my one?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
The names that I was waiting for for their whole
lineup were the girls from the Marvels. I know, none
of them are in it, and I feel like their
movie like when you get that end credit scene. They
were the ones like the catalyst for the X Men
being included into Avengers, and none of them are in it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I know, well yeah, not from this first video at least,
but I mean maybe they might be more casting to
come or be surprised for me.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They would give Bree last in a seat for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I know, And it's not like I guess people would
say like, oh, that movie did so terribly, But these
things are worked on years and years in advance to
get all the pieces together, so you can't really make
a split second decision to take someone out when the
plan started over five years.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And I feel like the series that we all loved
that was also everyone loved was the Miss Marvel series
with them on Valali, and I think that, like, I
just wanted her to be in it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I know. Actually the thing is like, we're obviously saying
very exciting about this casting announcement, and we are, but
there's also been as they mentioned in Dead Pulling Wolverine
in that classic joke, is that no one's really liked
the Marvel universe since Avengers Endgame, and there's a lot
of pressure. Exactly except for a few little bright spots,
it has kind of really faltered being like the world's
biggest movie franchise because it was over a ten year
(10:25):
build up to Endgame, and after that it just has
felt very lost. And this is meant to be the
thing that pulls all the fans back in, and to
an extent, it might work, but the question is are
they trading too heavily on nostalgia, like everyone's so excited
for Patrick Stewart Ian McKellen to be back in their roles,
But that's trading on a fandom that started over twenty
years ago instead of pushing forward, like the idea that
(10:47):
the new Avengers and the new characters aren't enough to
keep audiences satisfied. The only way that we'll watch these
movies is if they keep giving us these little surprise moments,
which to an extent is true. But then the other
hand is like, is this just amazing world building that's
been twenty years in the making, and it is the
payoff going to be Avengers Doomsday?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I also just gonna say I don't love her,
but Downe and Junior coming back, I know, I know
he's not playing. Iron Man has talked about.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We have talked about before, like is it kind of
now that they've built into Avengers the whole like going
back in time and alternate reality? Is like, is it
just an easy way for like cheap writing.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, potentially, I don't know. I'm just I'm gonna go
in with an open mind and just assume that they've
got a plan and that they're going to get the
train back on the track so brutally on his review.
Oh my god, that's not even a joke. We're doing
that if I can stop crying, because you know it's
going to be a thing. So Avengers Doomsday is coming
out May one, twenty twenty six. Put that in your calendar.
Clear the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Week, clear everything.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And then Avenger's Secret Wars is coming May seven, twenty
twenty seven. So I guess that's my next two.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Basically a two parter. Yeah, whoa exciting.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And now when you talk about something a little moss
exciting than our superhero friends. And that is the story
that's come up over the last couple of days of
Prince Harry being accused of being a bully by bullying
the head of a charity that he helped found and
has now exited. Have you seen this story around?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
This is the first time I'm hearing about the story,
and I don't know why that sounds like big news.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, it is a massive news story, and yeah, a
lot of people aren't sort of following it, which we'll
get to. But I'll give you the background of Prince
Harry vi a charity. So it's a charity that he
helped found many many years ago and it supports people
with HIV and AIDS in Lesotho and Botswana. So it's
a charity that Prince Harry co founded in two thousand
and six called Centible and it was in honor of
(12:36):
his mother, Princess Diana. So recently it was confirmed that
Prince Harry had left the charity that he co founded
along with Prince Siasu of les Othano and the whole
board of trustees, so all the people who involved in
the charity, following a dispute with chair of the charity,
Sophie Chandaka. Now Sophie has said that Harry has unleashed
the Sussex machine on her and has broken down the
(12:58):
relationship between him and her, as like the people who
were running the charity together and the five hundred and
forty people who work for the charity. So the two princes,
so Prince Harry and the Prince Sisu who that he
was run the charity with, released a joint statement together
saying that the relationship between them and the trustees and
the board pretty much everyone who had worked for the
charity had broken down beyond repair. And the Princess said
(13:21):
that it is devastating that the relationship between the charity's
trustees and the chair of the board broke down and
they acted in the best interest of the charity. In turn,
they said that Sophie, the doctor who is the chair
at the moment, sue the charity to remain in what
is a voluntary position and further underscore this broken relationship.
So the charity, yes, sue the charity to keep her seat,
(13:44):
but there isn't how do you.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Sue a charity? What give me back the money from
those dying people?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, for like almost like wrongful dismissal that they was
removing her from her place in the charity, and she's
saying that even though it's a voluntary position, they still
can't remove her. And the reason she's saying they removed
her this is where it gets quite intense. She said
they removed her because she was a whistleblower about issues
that were happening within the charity, including racism, bullying, sexism,
and an abusive power within the charity. Although she hasn't
(14:11):
elaborated on any details in terms of like who was responsible,
what was reported, what happened, but she basically said that
she came out and said, hey, all this terrible stuff
is happening behind the scenes, and then they went to
remove her, and when she went to sue them, that's
when the relationship break down. This is what she's saying.
There's obviously a lot more you know, information here. And
then the two princes have come out and so that
(14:32):
they've had to exit the charity that they founded and
they've been passionate about because of this woman kind of
destroying it from within.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh my god, why is this not bigger news? Also,
I think this is like insane because it is a charity.
This sounds very succession me, Like yeah, but I'm like,
these are actual people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I guess the thing about a charity is that
as much as they're there to do charitable deeds, they
are at the end of the day they run like
a business. It's a business, it's people's jobs. They're dealing
with a lot of funds, there's legalities, there's a lot
of powerful people involved. So even though it's a charity,
it would still have you know, I'm assuming a lot
of infighting, a lot of of workplace politics.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But you can't just force quit a charity.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, I know. So then Sophie went and did an
INTERVII on Sky News. This has been around a lot.
You have to kind of be following the story and
saying that the way that Prince Harry left the charity
was deliberately damaging. And she said, the only reason I'm
here is because at some point on Tuesday, Prince Harry
authorized the release of a damaging piece of news to
the outside world without informing me or my country directors
(15:37):
or my executive director. And you can imagine what that
attack has done for me on me and the five
hundred and fifty individuals and organizations within this charity. So basically,
she's saying that Prince Harry deliberately use his power that
people at his disposal, his team like this global fame
that he has to take her down. This is all allegedly.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, this is actually blowing my mind, like the fact
that no one's really talking about this story. Is everyone
talking about it?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, I mean no, no, I think that's the important
crux to get into.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm still like thinking about Megan and her show.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, exactly, and that's I think the story with most people.
So this is definitely around, but you do maybe have
to go looking for a little bit, and obviously, like
before we have our podcast, meaning I have to go
and read every single website that's ever been placed on
the Internet, every publication, listen to every podcast, watch every video,
watch every TikTok. I finish TikTok every morning.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I read it at the end of TikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Every morning I reach the end of YouTube to find
stories for the podcast. So I'm seeing it pop up,
but I'm seeing it, you know, on The Guardian's homepage,
but sort of further down or like it's on page six,
but it's underneath like all the Summer House stories and
you know that sort of stuff, and it's not being
splashed across our feeds, you know, like sometimes when a
story pops up, like you can't help but know about
it because it's all of your Facebook feed, it's all
(16:52):
over your Instagram feed. If you clip through stories, every
single publication is sharing it. You go on to TikTok,
everyone's got to take about it, so those stories you
can't hide from. Whereas this is bubbling away and it's
getting a lot of coverage. I think it's getting definitely
getting more coverage in the UK because of the Prince
Harry factor, but it hasn't become a global story. And
the interesting thing about this is you could say, like, oh,
I guess most people just aren't interested in a royal
(17:15):
having infighting in a charity. But the interesting thing about
it is if this was Megan Markle and anytime there's
been like a whisper of bullying or a whisper that
someone from her company quit six months ago after working
for her for two years, that blows up. And those
stories we can't help but see because they get placed
all around new seeds, whereas this is a huge story
(17:36):
of Prince Harry allegedly bullying and again a lot of
people on his team are saying that she's at fold
and he's innocent, so we don't know what happened, But
the thread of the story is that Prince Harry is
bullying this woman who worked at his charity because she
blew the whistle on racism and like sexism and all
these awful things are happening at the company. So you
(17:56):
almost feel like that would be like a red light
to the gossip tabloid sites to blow this everywhere. Because
it's Prince Harry and not Megan Markle. It hasn't really
taken off.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And it's also the double standard of like I feel
like people easily compartmentalized Prince Harry when it's like him
in work mode versus him and personal. Yeah, Like if
William was somehow involved in this, it would be a
much bigger story because everyone's obsessed with the hatred that
they allegedly have for each other. And I think that's
where we like dissect Printerario's personality versus Megan Markle, Like
(18:29):
no matter what she does, whether it's in a work
capacity or a personal capacity, we will always try to
dissect her behavior.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, And also I understand this feels like a boring
old take because this is this whole thing of like
Megan's held to a different standard, like women in general
held to a different standard. But it might be boring
and tired, but it still remains true, which is the reason,
like it keeps being interesting in this context because just
think of like obviously Megan Marchai's show was a big
Netflix event, but before that, there's Vanity Fair and other
(18:59):
magazines are doing like huge full page features and like
the people who don't want to work with her, and
there's whole podcast dedicated to it, us included, and there's
you know, whole TikTok threads, and there's it's more of
that kind of really mainstream coverage, like all these huge
think pieces by these well known pop culture writers who
are dissecting what Meghan said to Mindy Kayling and dissecting
(19:20):
the fact that she moved almonds or whatever it was,
out of one bag into another, and people just like
the intense wave of hatred against her was all encompassing
for such a long time. And then there's this huge
story playing out right now, which essentially you could paint
it as a woman being taken down and a whole
charity being taken down by Prince Harry, and we don't
(19:42):
want to hear about it because it's a long as
exciting because it's Prince Harry. And I also think that, like,
it's not just a Megan Markle thing, as much as
she attracts more hatred than the average woman, I do
think that if Kate Middleton, Princess Catherine was involved in
something like this, it would also be spolashed across every
outlet and we'd be much more invested in the story.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Imagine if it was Meghan Markle's charity.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Can you imagine if a huge charity like that that
she'd be working for for years, if she put out
a statement saying I had to leave. I was forced out.
I didn't want to. This person has ruined it for everyone.
And then it came out that that person had made
allegations about being an unsafe workplace and that Megan Markle
had retaliated against them with her big machine. How that
(20:23):
would just be the front page and everything and everyone
by writing think pieces about it. I mean, we probably
would have dedicated a whole part, but yeah, outlets would
have lived off that for weeks. But here's what happens
is like outlets put these stories out and they wanted
to like the clicks and how long people are reading
them for and the comments and the engagement. And if
the story doesn't get traction on the first day, really,
(20:45):
in this world we live in, then you push that
aside and you move to the neck and you build
on the stories that are gaining.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Traction, which is Megamarkle.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah exactly. So obviously we don't know what's happened behind
closed doors, but it's just an interesting thing. How maybe
it's because Prince Harry still has a bit of likability cachet,
and maybe people still are willing to because he was like,
you know, the lovable prints that everyone you know favored
for so many years, like the Lara Can prints with
a Heart of Gold that people loved. And maybe there's
(21:13):
a bit of overflow.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And everyone's just waiting for a second book. Maybe they
don't want to ruck the bone in case he doesn't
do it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, exactly. So. I guess we'll see where the legal
proceedings with this charity go. But I just think it's
a very interesting double standard.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We have some I would say, some low browbreaking news. Yeah,
Sidney Sweeney. It was posted on des Moire Instagram that
Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell were spotted together at Glen
Pale's sister's wedding in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think they used the word canoodling in some way,
which is good. I love as soon as an outlet
says canodling, I'm all in now.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We have seen a lot of I think this was
like late twenty twenty four when they did the movie.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, anyone but you, I was gonna say, the idea
of your was like, no, that's had the way one. Yeah,
there are a lot of different this is movie title.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, so they were in that movie together, and I
think they were like the catalyst of leaning in on
the couple trope, right, Like they were both in relationships
at the time, but everyone just wanted them to be
together so badly, and I think their whole press tool
of them kind of like looking at each other and
(22:29):
loving eyes, like holding each other, touching each other. It
was also the same time as when we had Bridge
and Season three and they were doing the same thing.
We were just getting these couples who were in very
much serious relationships with other partners just kind of leaning
in and pretending that they were together exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It was the most old school publicity stunt. And the
thing is now people use publicity stunts so much now
with celebrities. It's like a celebrities will be together for
five years, get married, have three children, and everyone will
be like publicity stunt, Whereas this was such an old
court school publicity stunt of just like sharing very specific
photos standing together on a red carpet in a specific way.
(23:07):
And it started when they were filming, Like Sydney Killer
would post these like sexy videos of her and Glenn
like working out together and like being together up behind
the scenes and all this sort of thing, and it
was so blatant that people believed that they had fallen
in love. And it one hundred percent worked for the
marketing of that movie. That movie did so well at
the box office, It did so well for just Press,
(23:29):
even though the movie itself not great, it did so
well for his career. It so well really elevated him
to that and obviously Top Gun Maverick are the two
things that really elevated him to a leading man, but
more so, it made him like a very bankable leading man.
And I think that's why he was so happy to
lead into it, because it really set him up well
for Twisters and all these other movies that he's doing
(23:49):
now as like a heart throb who could also be
in like a critically acclaimed movie which obviously wasn't anyone
but you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And with the photos that came out over the weekend
of them together at his sister's wedding, it not only
just made all those rumors come back to the surface,
but it also had the added knowledge that allegedly she
has broken up with her fiance Jonathan Devino, a few
days before the photos came out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah. So here's the thing where I don't mean to
rain on anyone's sexy film star getting together parade. But
when you first see the headlines of Glenn Power and
Sidney Sweeney spotted together after her breakup, you get very
excited if you have nothing else going on in your life,
which I am magersent in that case. Yes, I just say, yeah,
we identify with those people, and you think, oh my god,
(24:37):
they've been spotted like on a romantic vacation, or someone's
got photos of them making out in a car, or
like you know, having a moonlit walk on the beach somewhere,
like it's all very sexy and exciting. And then when
you actually click in and you look at the photos
and you read the facts about the story. At hate facts,
they ruin everything. Oh god, they're at his sister's wedding,
and his sister is worked on anyone but you, and
(24:58):
so she's also very close friends with Sidney Sweeney, so
they're just.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Without knowing that, You're like, wow, he bought her as
a plus one his sister's.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
A wedding, which means that obviously in love. But then
it's like all ruined by the fact that they're literally
at a mutual friend's wedding and I'm sure, like obviously
the photos show them together that I'm sure they're there
with a massive.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Grip zoo out of the photos and you see five
other people on their table.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The zoom out will kill everything. That's what ruined the
Pedro Pascal and Jen Fanison photos. At the end of
the day, they're with a whole group of people.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But okay, let's go back to the rumors that she
has actually split from her.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Films, which people are thrilled about because people, I guess one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Part is a big age gap between them.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, what's the age gap?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So there's thirteen years difference between their ages?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yep. So she's in her late twenties and he's in
his early forties. Yeah, which I mean, look thirteen years
and hold forty is the near twenty Yeah, well, obviously
I believe that I'm getting closer to that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Look, in Hollywood, thirteen years not really anything out of
the thing above.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Twelve years counts as an age gap relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. Interesting. I think also why people have just been
so off him ever since their relationship came out, even
though they've been together for such a long time, they've
been engaged for a long time. Is that a few
different things? Is that she looks significantly younger than him,
and also we don't know anything about him because she
keeps him very much out of her spotlight and interviews.
A few times she's obviously said like, no, I'm not
dating anyone, I'm in love with my fiance. But we
(26:25):
really only see him walking in and out of events
with her, and they do a lot of business together,
like they made Anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But yeah, he co produced that with her.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, and she has said they concocted the whole idea
of her and Glenn, like she did that with her fiance.
So she posed with Glenn all these red carpets in
a very sexy way, and then she would walk out,
Like the Sydney premiere that I was at, Glenn wasn't there,
but she was on the red carpet, and she's talking
about Glenn, how much she loved him, all this sort
of stuff. But then as soon as the movie was over,
she held her fiance's hand and walked out of there
(26:53):
and they got on a private jet and full way.
So she was like not even hiding the fact that
at the end of the press too event that she
was completely with this man. But I've heard, like, you know,
fans not like him, one because of the age gap thing,
the other because they're like, well, he's controlling her, he's
using her for fame to get his projects made, even
though he never really speaks, so we don't know that
much about him. There's this idea that he's like latched
(27:15):
onto this young famous woman, has used her to build
up his own career, even though he was a producer beforehand.
And I guess people just because there's no romance or
excitement around him, people don't like him for her.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
She is acting very single girl right now though, like
people reported that in one of the carousels, like when
a photo dumpster she posted last year, I think it
was like a New Year's Eve one. She's deleted the
photo of them kissing with in the carousel, so telling.
And she's also just posted like a girl's trip photo
of like just her with the girls, and I'm like,
(27:48):
you only post you and the girls when something is going.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
On, Yeah, exactly. And also they were planning this big
wedding which she had talked about a few times and
then she said, like, you know, now we're producing all
of these movies and she's starring all these movies that
were going to push the wedding back. But then it
came out and she hasn't confirmed this, but it's been
confirmed with sources within her team. You know, how that
whole chestnut goes is that the wedding has now been
postponed indefinitely, which is often what people say to never happening. Ever,
(28:17):
so it feels like they have broken up. And I
know people want her and Glenn together and I would
love that too, What a fun little celebrity story to
distract us from the hell fire of this world. But
I just don't think it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I also think like they don't look like they would
be a good couple. I'm I don't know it's giving
siblings or dating, Like I'm tired of people dating themselves
because that essentially is what they would be. They look
the exact same.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I know. And also I think people want him to
be his anyone. But you character like this guy who
was like, you know, he's so closed off, and he
was like, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Had a convention. Yeah, I've never watched a movie.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You kidding? Yeah, Oh my, Okay, you need to watch it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I know it's a very important part of pop culture.
I know everyone loves it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So it's not a great movie. You know what. When
I was on my cruise by myself through Europe, there
was like three movies that I could watch in my
state room late at night after I'd been out and
about enjoying the cruise all days. So like most nights,
I would come home and just collapse in bed and
just watch anyone but you because it was like one
of the three.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, it's like you were never in Europe watching all
the landmarks.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And people on beaches and stuff, and I go out
into European beaches during the day and I'm like, what
a fun time I'm having. But yeah, it is just
one of those kind of like easy to watch movies.
But they have this whole like enemies to lovers thing,
which I think people want them.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It was like loosely based off much Ado about Nothing, Yeah,
which I.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Loved, Yeah, exactly film. You could just watch the original
or read the original play. Yeah. I just think also,
he just comes across as like a bit of a
goofy guy. He's not the guy from the movie. But
you know. Maybe also maybe they didn't go on the
way Tom Cruise. Yeah, because he went to Tom Cruise
Film School, which he thought was an actual film school,
and it was just him.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Watching a video by himself off Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, Tom Cruise. Apparently every softened hands likes an actor
that he's going to mentor he selected Glen Powell. I
mean also great choice. Seems like he can carry and
he can carry a movie, as we've seen from Twisters.
I love Al.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's like the Glen Pale over Miles Teller.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, maybe Myles tell no, thank you, I'm not going
to Tom Cruise's creepy house by myself. And then Glenn
Powell went to Tom Cruise's film school, which was just
him sitting alone for seven hours watching videos that Tom
Cruise had selected for him.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yea, by himself in his house.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I hope you got some coconut cake anyway. I don't
want to crush the intent streams. I don't think Sydney
Sweeney and Glenn Power are together. But also maybe something
happened at the wedding. Wedding's very romantic, notoriously very pro.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Look, I don't think so, but I hope I'm wrong.
I hope I'm wrong, but I just think, you know,
we can't just go off that one so she could.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Still be with her fiance.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We don't know. I know she's sitting there reading all
these things with her fiance being like, we just had
to postpone the wedding because of the six movies we're mating.
But I don't think so. I definitely think they're broken up.
That's one thing I can say for sure.
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Bye bye
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm
Em Burnham and I'm Laura Brodney. Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Happy Monday to you. We both had a massive week
and we haven't podcasted together for a while. We're back
on our orange couch together.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We haven't. This feels really nice.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So we just talked for like half an hour before
we started. We had so much lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We had a lot to catch up on. I had
a big wedding. It feels like my wedding. It wasn't
my wedding. It was my cousin's wedding. I feel like
it was your wedding.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like while I was away on my holiday this week,
I was like, I hope M's wedding's going well.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The anticipation for this wedding, everyone in my life just
knew about it. It did go well, it was and you
were away seeing family you loved us in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, well, I went away for a big beach to
get away because despite being very pale on someone who
shouldn't be the sun. I love the beach. So I
went to the Sunshine Coast for three days of beach
each time.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And there was no sunshine, torrential rain.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I actually at one stage did just wade into the
ocean in the leve like a thunderstorm, like I have
to touch it, and I nearly died. But apart from that, yeah,
then I went to Brisbane, saw my families. That was lovely.
Just wasn't the epic holiday I have planned it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, now you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I did go to all I had to go up
to Malaney because it was just raining everywhere else. And
I went to this bar called Spill Wine and I
took all these photos it's our bar, me pointing at
the sign, being like spill Wine, because I was like,
it's kind of just like our podcast anyway, I think, yeah,
I was taking photos of the menus and side. I'm
posted anything yet, but I was just like, is this
(01:48):
an extension for us? But I think it nearly got
me kicked out. I wanted to say to them, don't
you know who I am. I'm the host of the
spill Comcast and you're the spill Wine bar.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm the owner of your bar.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I get this. Something started here, but instead that didn't work.
But anyway, we're back in Podland today, which is good
because so much stuff has happened over the weekend. We
have a potential hot new Hollywood romance and I know
everyone's very excited about. I think I'm going to ruin
it with some background information, but that's okay, Oh no,
say it. You can't get into this account. Also, Prince
Harry a bully. That's the headline we need to talk about,
(02:19):
which I know you're also not across. But first, we
have some breaking movie news that happened a few days ago,
but I'm still quite shell shocked by it, so I'm
still going to call it breaking news.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, tell me this breaking news because I have a
feeling I know exactly what we're going to talk about.
The issue is is that you weren't around to talk
about it. I know, so I just had to be
excited about myself.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So this is the question that I was saying to
everyone over the weekend as I interacted with family, friends
and strangers after the whole high How are you? Yeah,
lots of rain, So how do you feel about the
original X Men being in the new Avengers movie is
what I asked everyone, because this weekend six years after
Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's been that long.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's been six years. I can still feel it in
my soul. I've never cried so much during a movie.
That and Wicked are the only two times I've cried
so much. I cried so much after Avengers Endgame because
just like the buildup of over a decade and the
deaths and how emotional it was. Then my Uber driver
pulled over and asked me if I was okay, and
I said I just saw Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's like, I get it, and drink that's so nice.
So many fan favorite characters in that movie.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, which is very hard I know. So Anyway, now
the next Avengers movie is coming out, and during a
nearly five and a half hour live stream that Marvel
Studios did to announce all of their new projects and casting,
they announced the forecasting, or at least the forecasting they're
going to tell us because you know, surprise cameos are
(03:43):
a thing of the next Avengers movie, which is called
Avengers Doomsday. And the way they did this is that
they had a video of all the you know, when
you're on a movie set. You might not know, but
when you're in a movie set, you have the classic
kind of the folding chairs, and if you're a like
director chair, yeah, that is very uncomfortable, Yes, but I
guess they're easy to move around sets. And that's an
(04:06):
iconic kind of old Hollywood thing because if you're a
big enough star, you have your name on the back
of the chairs. Now we can take your chair, which
is something we should incorporate into this office. Take people's chairs.
And so the camera slowly panned along the chairs and
we started seeing names like Tom Holland and Chris Hemsworth,
Tommy Bilsten, Anthony Macki, Paul Rudd, Letitia Wright, Simeulu, Danny Ramirez,
(04:31):
and Winston Duke. That's all very exciting, but they're all
names that we knew were going to be in the
New Avengers movie because they're still very much part of
the Marvel Cinematic universe.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Some of them aren't all Avengers though, like they make
in the universe, and I think this will be the
first time we see them in the Avenger team.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, exactly. So, like Danny Ramirez, the Falcon from like
the Last Captain of America, movie, Winston Duke Imbuku from
the Black Panther franchise. So not saying they're going to
be completely like in The Avengers, or they might be,
but they're definitely in the new movie. Also Tom Hidlston
return of a super villain. We love that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, how does he get out? Because isn't he here?
So he's in the low key right now the TV
show and he's kind of like trapped in this like
time world.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, I'm like, mom, we's to come back to explanation
for that. We also have Sebastian Stan Florence Pugh who's
also already been in a Marvel universe quite a bit,
Wyatt Russell, the Internet's Boyfriend, David Harbor, Hannah, John Kaman,
and Lewis Pullman. And then this is where things got
really interesting. The camera panned along past all those names
who we kind of knew was still in the universe.
(05:33):
They weren't a huge surprise to include the original X
Men actors from the early two thousands movies that kicked
off the big screen adaptation of the X Men comic books.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Can I just say yes? The X Men series is
my favorite movies of all time. I had a phone
case with like the cartoon gambit on it. Oh, it
was I like this movie so much.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Everything about X Men is just the perfect franchise. Like,
I'm such a huge fan of the original comics. The
original animated series is better than most live action series
that I've watched.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And we've talked about X Men ninety seven so many
times exactly the award would critically acclaimed series that came
out recently, which we'd love.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But the early two thousands adapted the source material into
these big movies and that became a huge thing. So
when this video that came out of the Last couple
of Days showed the names Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen who
obviously played Professor Xavier and Magneto in the original movies,
James Marsden, Cyclops, the original Rebecca Raman Mistay, Yes, back
(06:36):
in the day was Rebecca Raman Stamos when she was
married to John Stamos and then they had that huge breakup.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I thought she died though spoilers.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, Rebecca, no, Well they all pretty much died, although
prot has been in the Marvel universe over the years.
But James Marston, also infamously a Cyclops, died at the
hands of Jean Gray, his love in the final X
Men movie.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh but then Logan brought them all back. He went
back in time and brought them all back. Yes, so
there's a lot of different movies. We should do like
a recap of every X Men, like.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A seven hour per movie podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Then we also have stars from X two, X Men United.
So we have Alan Cumming as Night Crawl Out, Kelsey
Grammar back as the Beast. And why did this name
make me so happy? This man in his silly dream
that I care so much about. I am going to
say Channing Tatum, who tried to play Gambit for I
want to say twenty years, tried to get a Gambit
movie off the ground, was in production, even started doing
(07:34):
like a bit of you know, like leaking and impressed
that he was happening, and then it just stooled. And
then the studio that was doing the movies stopped making
the movies. And it was this whole thing. So when
he came back in the last Deadpool and Wolverine movie,
well he played gamb but for the first time you
heard me scream, right, Yeah, it came out.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I really liked him as Gambit. I have to admit.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people didn't think he
could do it, but he did quite a good job.
So he's been trying to play his character of for
twenty years and the fact that he's now in the
Marvel Cinematic Universe massive deal. We also have the new
cast of the next Fantastic Four movies, so they're rebooting
that again as to the last one was just a
complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And is this the first time the Fantastic Four, Like
they've done so many Fantastic Four movies with so many
different casts, and is this the first time where they're
including the Fantastic Four within the other universes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So it's been like a twenty year thing to get
the X Men characters integrated into the Marvel universe, which
is a whole backstory of like studios and ownership that
I won't get into now because again, that is a
ten hour podcast. It's also the first time, yes, the
Fantastic Four, this new iteration is going to be in
the Marvel universe. We have Pedro Pascal who's playing Mister Fantastic, Yes,
Vanessa Kirby, the Invisible Woman, Ebon Moas Bacarat who es
(08:41):
people would love from the Bear from the Bear, and
Joseph Quinn who's playing the human Torch. Oh, I love
Joseph quinns so, and then there was a whole bunch
of names in there, and then the camera pandlong and
there was one person sitting in the very last chair
and it was Robert Downey Jr. Who is playing Doctor
Doom in the New movies. And he's wearing a suit
and tie and he just looked at the camera and
(09:01):
goes sh And then it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Is I wonder how much they paid?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So that was old bean. He's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can I just say my one?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
The names that I was waiting for for their whole
lineup were the girls from the Marvels. I know, none
of them are in it, and I feel like their
movie like when you get that end credit scene. They
were the ones like the catalyst for the X Men
being included into Avengers, and none of them are in it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I know, well yeah, not from this first video at least,
but I mean maybe they might be more casting to
come or be surprised for me.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
They would give Bree last in a seat for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I know, And it's not like I guess people would
say like, oh, that movie did so terribly, But these
things are worked on years and years in advance to
get all the pieces together, so you can't really make
a split second decision to take someone out when the
plan started over five years.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And I feel like the series that we all loved
that was also everyone loved was the Miss Marvel series
with them on Valali, and I think that, like, I
just wanted her to be in it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I know. Actually the thing is like, we're obviously saying
very exciting about this casting announcement, and we are, but
there's also been as they mentioned in Dead Pulling Wolverine
in that classic joke, is that no one's really liked
the Marvel universe since Avengers Endgame, and there's a lot
of pressure. Exactly except for a few little bright spots,
it has kind of really faltered being like the world's
biggest movie franchise because it was over a ten year
(10:25):
build up to Endgame, and after that it just has
felt very lost. And this is meant to be the
thing that pulls all the fans back in, and to
an extent, it might work, but the question is are
they trading too heavily on nostalgia, like everyone's so excited
for Patrick Stewart Ian McKellen to be back in their roles,
But that's trading on a fandom that started over twenty
years ago instead of pushing forward, like the idea that
(10:47):
the new Avengers and the new characters aren't enough to
keep audiences satisfied. The only way that we'll watch these
movies is if they keep giving us these little surprise moments,
which to an extent is true. But then the other
hand is like, is this just amazing world building that's
been twenty years in the making, and it is the
payoff going to be Avengers Doomsday?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I also just gonna say I don't love her,
but Downe and Junior coming back, I know, I know
he's not playing. Iron Man has talked about.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We have talked about before, like is it kind of
now that they've built into Avengers the whole like going
back in time and alternate reality? Is like, is it
just an easy way for like cheap writing.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, potentially, I don't know. I'm just I'm gonna go
in with an open mind and just assume that they've
got a plan and that they're going to get the
train back on the track so brutally on his review.
Oh my god, that's not even a joke. We're doing
that if I can stop crying, because you know it's
going to be a thing. So Avengers Doomsday is coming
out May one, twenty twenty six. Put that in your calendar.
Clear the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Week, clear everything.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And then Avenger's Secret Wars is coming May seven, twenty
twenty seven. So I guess that's my next two.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Basically a two parter. Yeah, whoa exciting.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And now when you talk about something a little moss
exciting than our superhero friends. And that is the story
that's come up over the last couple of days of
Prince Harry being accused of being a bully by bullying
the head of a charity that he helped found and
has now exited. Have you seen this story around?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
This is the first time I'm hearing about the story,
and I don't know why that sounds like big news.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, it is a massive news story, and yeah, a
lot of people aren't sort of following it, which we'll
get to. But I'll give you the background of Prince
Harry vi a charity. So it's a charity that he
helped found many many years ago and it supports people
with HIV and AIDS in Lesotho and Botswana. So it's
a charity that Prince Harry co founded in two thousand
and six called Centible and it was in honor of
(12:36):
his mother, Princess Diana. So recently it was confirmed that
Prince Harry had left the charity that he co founded
along with Prince Siasu of les Othano and the whole
board of trustees, so all the people who involved in
the charity, following a dispute with chair of the charity,
Sophie Chandaka. Now Sophie has said that Harry has unleashed
the Sussex machine on her and has broken down the
(12:58):
relationship between him and her, as like the people who
were running the charity together and the five hundred and
forty people who work for the charity. So the two princes,
so Prince Harry and the Prince Sisu who that he
was run the charity with, released a joint statement together
saying that the relationship between them and the trustees and
the board pretty much everyone who had worked for the
charity had broken down beyond repair. And the Princess said
(13:21):
that it is devastating that the relationship between the charity's
trustees and the chair of the board broke down and
they acted in the best interest of the charity. In turn,
they said that Sophie, the doctor who is the chair
at the moment, sue the charity to remain in what
is a voluntary position and further underscore this broken relationship.
So the charity, yes, sue the charity to keep her seat,
(13:44):
but there isn't how do you.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Sue a charity? What give me back the money from
those dying people?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, for like almost like wrongful dismissal that they was
removing her from her place in the charity, and she's
saying that even though it's a voluntary position, they still
can't remove her. And the reason she's saying they removed
her this is where it gets quite intense. She said
they removed her because she was a whistleblower about issues
that were happening within the charity, including racism, bullying, sexism,
and an abusive power within the charity. Although she hasn't
(14:11):
elaborated on any details in terms of like who was responsible,
what was reported, what happened, but she basically said that
she came out and said, hey, all this terrible stuff
is happening behind the scenes, and then they went to
remove her, and when she went to sue them, that's
when the relationship break down. This is what she's saying.
There's obviously a lot more you know, information here. And
then the two princes have come out and so that
(14:32):
they've had to exit the charity that they founded and
they've been passionate about because of this woman kind of
destroying it from within.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh my god, why is this not bigger news? Also,
I think this is like insane because it is a charity.
This sounds very succession me, Like yeah, but I'm like,
these are actual people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I guess the thing about a charity is that
as much as they're there to do charitable deeds, they
are at the end of the day they run like
a business. It's a business, it's people's jobs. They're dealing
with a lot of funds, there's legalities, there's a lot
of powerful people involved. So even though it's a charity,
it would still have you know, I'm assuming a lot
of infighting, a lot of of workplace politics.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But you can't just force quit a charity.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, I know. So then Sophie went and did an
INTERVII on Sky News. This has been around a lot.
You have to kind of be following the story and
saying that the way that Prince Harry left the charity
was deliberately damaging. And she said, the only reason I'm
here is because at some point on Tuesday, Prince Harry
authorized the release of a damaging piece of news to
the outside world without informing me or my country directors
(15:37):
or my executive director. And you can imagine what that
attack has done for me on me and the five
hundred and fifty individuals and organizations within this charity. So basically,
she's saying that Prince Harry deliberately use his power that
people at his disposal, his team like this global fame
that he has to take her down. This is all allegedly.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, this is actually blowing my mind, like the fact
that no one's really talking about this story. Is everyone
talking about it?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, I mean no, no, I think that's the important
crux to get into.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm still like thinking about Megan and her show.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, exactly, and that's I think the story with most people.
So this is definitely around, but you do maybe have
to go looking for a little bit, and obviously, like
before we have our podcast, meaning I have to go
and read every single website that's ever been placed on
the Internet, every publication, listen to every podcast, watch every video,
watch every TikTok. I finish TikTok every morning.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I read it at the end of TikTok.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Every morning I reach the end of YouTube to find
stories for the podcast. So I'm seeing it pop up,
but I'm seeing it, you know, on The Guardian's homepage,
but sort of further down or like it's on page six,
but it's underneath like all the Summer House stories and
you know that sort of stuff, and it's not being
splashed across our feeds, you know, like sometimes when a
story pops up, like you can't help but know about
it because it's all of your Facebook feed, it's all
(16:52):
over your Instagram feed. If you clip through stories, every
single publication is sharing it. You go on to TikTok,
everyone's got to take about it, so those stories you
can't hide from. Whereas this is bubbling away and it's
getting a lot of coverage. I think it's getting definitely
getting more coverage in the UK because of the Prince
Harry factor, but it hasn't become a global story. And
the interesting thing about this is you could say, like, oh,
I guess most people just aren't interested in a royal
(17:15):
having infighting in a charity. But the interesting thing about
it is if this was Megan Markle and anytime there's
been like a whisper of bullying or a whisper that
someone from her company quit six months ago after working
for her for two years, that blows up. And those
stories we can't help but see because they get placed
all around new seeds, whereas this is a huge story
(17:36):
of Prince Harry allegedly bullying and again a lot of
people on his team are saying that she's at fold
and he's innocent, so we don't know what happened, But
the thread of the story is that Prince Harry is
bullying this woman who worked at his charity because she
blew the whistle on racism and like sexism and all
these awful things are happening at the company. So you
(17:56):
almost feel like that would be like a red light
to the gossip tabloid sites to blow this everywhere. Because
it's Prince Harry and not Megan Markle. It hasn't really
taken off.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And it's also the double standard of like I feel
like people easily compartmentalized Prince Harry when it's like him
in work mode versus him and personal. Yeah, Like if
William was somehow involved in this, it would be a
much bigger story because everyone's obsessed with the hatred that
they allegedly have for each other. And I think that's
where we like dissect Printerario's personality versus Megan Markle, Like
(18:29):
no matter what she does, whether it's in a work
capacity or a personal capacity, we will always try to
dissect her behavior.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, And also I understand this feels like a boring
old take because this is this whole thing of like
Megan's held to a different standard, like women in general
held to a different standard. But it might be boring
and tired, but it still remains true, which is the reason,
like it keeps being interesting in this context because just
think of like obviously Megan Marchai's show was a big
Netflix event, but before that, there's Vanity Fair and other
(18:59):
magazines are doing like huge full page features and like
the people who don't want to work with her, and
there's whole podcast dedicated to it, us included, and there's
you know, whole TikTok threads, and there's it's more of
that kind of really mainstream coverage, like all these huge
think pieces by these well known pop culture writers who
are dissecting what Meghan said to Mindy Kayling and dissecting
(19:20):
the fact that she moved almonds or whatever it was,
out of one bag into another, and people just like
the intense wave of hatred against her was all encompassing
for such a long time. And then there's this huge
story playing out right now, which essentially you could paint
it as a woman being taken down and a whole
charity being taken down by Prince Harry, and we don't
(19:42):
want to hear about it because it's a long as
exciting because it's Prince Harry. And I also think that, like,
it's not just a Megan Markle thing, as much as
she attracts more hatred than the average woman, I do
think that if Kate Middleton, Princess Catherine was involved in
something like this, it would also be spolashed across every
outlet and we'd be much more invested in the story.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Imagine if it was Meghan Markle's charity.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Can you imagine if a huge charity like that that
she'd be working for for years, if she put out
a statement saying I had to leave. I was forced out.
I didn't want to. This person has ruined it for everyone.
And then it came out that that person had made
allegations about being an unsafe workplace and that Megan Markle
had retaliated against them with her big machine. How that
(20:23):
would just be the front page and everything and everyone
by writing think pieces about it. I mean, we probably
would have dedicated a whole part, but yeah, outlets would
have lived off that for weeks. But here's what happens
is like outlets put these stories out and they wanted
to like the clicks and how long people are reading
them for and the comments and the engagement. And if
the story doesn't get traction on the first day, really,
(20:45):
in this world we live in, then you push that
aside and you move to the neck and you build
on the stories that are gaining.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Traction, which is Megamarkle.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah exactly. So obviously we don't know what's happened behind
closed doors, but it's just an interesting thing. How maybe
it's because Prince Harry still has a bit of likability cachet,
and maybe people still are willing to because he was like,
you know, the lovable prints that everyone you know favored
for so many years, like the Lara Can prints with
a Heart of Gold that people loved. And maybe there's
(21:13):
a bit of overflow.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And everyone's just waiting for a second book. Maybe they
don't want to ruck the bone in case he doesn't
do it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, exactly. So. I guess we'll see where the legal
proceedings with this charity go. But I just think it's
a very interesting double standard.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We have some I would say, some low browbreaking news. Yeah,
Sidney Sweeney. It was posted on des Moire Instagram that
Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell were spotted together at Glen
Pale's sister's wedding in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think they used the word canoodling in some way,
which is good. I love as soon as an outlet
says canodling, I'm all in now.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We have seen a lot of I think this was
like late twenty twenty four when they did the movie.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, anyone but you, I was gonna say, the idea
of your was like, no, that's had the way one. Yeah,
there are a lot of different this is movie title.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, so they were in that movie together, and I
think they were like the catalyst of leaning in on
the couple trope, right, Like they were both in relationships
at the time, but everyone just wanted them to be
together so badly, and I think their whole press tool
of them kind of like looking at each other and
(22:29):
loving eyes, like holding each other, touching each other. It
was also the same time as when we had Bridge
and Season three and they were doing the same thing.
We were just getting these couples who were in very
much serious relationships with other partners just kind of leaning
in and pretending that they were together exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It was the most old school publicity stunt. And the
thing is now people use publicity stunts so much now
with celebrities. It's like a celebrities will be together for
five years, get married, have three children, and everyone will
be like publicity stunt, Whereas this was such an old
court school publicity stunt of just like sharing very specific
photos standing together on a red carpet in a specific way.
(23:07):
And it started when they were filming, Like Sydney Killer
would post these like sexy videos of her and Glenn
like working out together and like being together up behind
the scenes and all this sort of thing, and it
was so blatant that people believed that they had fallen
in love. And it one hundred percent worked for the
marketing of that movie. That movie did so well at
the box office, It did so well for just Press,
(23:29):
even though the movie itself not great, it did so
well for his career. It so well really elevated him
to that and obviously Top Gun Maverick are the two
things that really elevated him to a leading man, but
more so, it made him like a very bankable leading man.
And I think that's why he was so happy to
lead into it, because it really set him up well
for Twisters and all these other movies that he's doing
(23:49):
now as like a heart throb who could also be
in like a critically acclaimed movie which obviously wasn't anyone
but you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And with the photos that came out over the weekend
of them together at his sister's wedding, it not only
just made all those rumors come back to the surface,
but it also had the added knowledge that allegedly she
has broken up with her fiance Jonathan Devino, a few
days before the photos came out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah. So here's the thing where I don't mean to
rain on anyone's sexy film star getting together parade. But
when you first see the headlines of Glenn Power and
Sidney Sweeney spotted together after her breakup, you get very
excited if you have nothing else going on in your life,
which I am magersent in that case. Yes, I just say, yeah,
we identify with those people, and you think, oh my god,
(24:37):
they've been spotted like on a romantic vacation, or someone's
got photos of them making out in a car, or
like you know, having a moonlit walk on the beach somewhere,
like it's all very sexy and exciting. And then when
you actually click in and you look at the photos
and you read the facts about the story. At hate facts,
they ruin everything. Oh god, they're at his sister's wedding,
and his sister is worked on anyone but you, and
(24:58):
so she's also very close friends with Sidney Sweeney, so
they're just.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Without knowing that, You're like, wow, he bought her as
a plus one his sister's.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
A wedding, which means that obviously in love. But then
it's like all ruined by the fact that they're literally
at a mutual friend's wedding and I'm sure, like obviously
the photos show them together that I'm sure they're there
with a massive.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Grip zoo out of the photos and you see five
other people on their table.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The zoom out will kill everything. That's what ruined the
Pedro Pascal and Jen Fanison photos. At the end of
the day, they're with a whole group of people.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But okay, let's go back to the rumors that she
has actually split from her.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Films, which people are thrilled about because people, I guess one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Part is a big age gap between them.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, what's the age gap?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So there's thirteen years difference between their ages?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yep. So she's in her late twenties and he's in
his early forties. Yeah, which I mean, look thirteen years
and hold forty is the near twenty Yeah, well, obviously
I believe that I'm getting closer to that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Look, in Hollywood, thirteen years not really anything out of
the thing above.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Twelve years counts as an age gap relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. Interesting. I think also why people have just been
so off him ever since their relationship came out, even
though they've been together for such a long time, they've
been engaged for a long time. Is that a few
different things? Is that she looks significantly younger than him,
and also we don't know anything about him because she
keeps him very much out of her spotlight and interviews.
A few times she's obviously said like, no, I'm not
dating anyone, I'm in love with my fiance. But we
(26:25):
really only see him walking in and out of events
with her, and they do a lot of business together,
like they made Anyone.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But yeah, he co produced that with her.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, and she has said they concocted the whole idea
of her and Glenn, like she did that with her fiance.
So she posed with Glenn all these red carpets in
a very sexy way, and then she would walk out,
Like the Sydney premiere that I was at, Glenn wasn't there,
but she was on the red carpet, and she's talking
about Glenn, how much she loved him, all this sort
of stuff. But then as soon as the movie was over,
she held her fiance's hand and walked out of there
(26:53):
and they got on a private jet and full way.
So she was like not even hiding the fact that
at the end of the press too event that she
was completely with this man. But I've heard, like, you know,
fans not like him, one because of the age gap thing,
the other because they're like, well, he's controlling her, he's
using her for fame to get his projects made, even
though he never really speaks, so we don't know that
much about him. There's this idea that he's like latched
(27:15):
onto this young famous woman, has used her to build
up his own career, even though he was a producer beforehand.
And I guess people just because there's no romance or
excitement around him, people don't like him for her.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
She is acting very single girl right now though, like
people reported that in one of the carousels, like when
a photo dumpster she posted last year, I think it
was like a New Year's Eve one. She's deleted the
photo of them kissing with in the carousel, so telling.
And she's also just posted like a girl's trip photo
of like just her with the girls, and I'm like,
(27:48):
you only post you and the girls when something is going.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
On, Yeah, exactly. And also they were planning this big
wedding which she had talked about a few times and
then she said, like, you know, now we're producing all
of these movies and she's starring all these movies that
were going to push the wedding back. But then it
came out and she hasn't confirmed this, but it's been
confirmed with sources within her team. You know, how that
whole chestnut goes is that the wedding has now been
postponed indefinitely, which is often what people say to never happening. Ever,
(28:17):
so it feels like they have broken up. And I
know people want her and Glenn together and I would
love that too, What a fun little celebrity story to
distract us from the hell fire of this world. But
I just don't think it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I also think like they don't look like they would
be a good couple. I'm I don't know it's giving
siblings or dating, Like I'm tired of people dating themselves
because that essentially is what they would be. They look
the exact same.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I know. And also I think people want him to
be his anyone. But you character like this guy who
was like, you know, he's so closed off, and he
was like, I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Had a convention. Yeah, I've never watched a movie.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You kidding? Yeah, Oh my, Okay, you need to watch it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I know it's a very important part of pop culture.
I know everyone loves it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So it's not a great movie. You know what. When
I was on my cruise by myself through Europe, there
was like three movies that I could watch in my
state room late at night after I'd been out and
about enjoying the cruise all days. So like most nights,
I would come home and just collapse in bed and
just watch anyone but you because it was like one
of the three.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, it's like you were never in Europe watching all
the landmarks.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And people on beaches and stuff, and I go out
into European beaches during the day and I'm like, what
a fun time I'm having. But yeah, it is just
one of those kind of like easy to watch movies.
But they have this whole like enemies to lovers thing,
which I think people want them.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It was like loosely based off much Ado about Nothing, Yeah,
which I.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Loved, Yeah, exactly film. You could just watch the original
or read the original play. Yeah. I just think also,
he just comes across as like a bit of a
goofy guy. He's not the guy from the movie. But
you know. Maybe also maybe they didn't go on the
way Tom Cruise. Yeah, because he went to Tom Cruise
Film School, which he thought was an actual film school,
and it was just him.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Watching a video by himself off Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, Tom Cruise. Apparently every softened hands likes an actor
that he's going to mentor he selected Glen Powell. I
mean also great choice. Seems like he can carry and
he can carry a movie, as we've seen from Twisters.
I love Al.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's like the Glen Pale over Miles Teller.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, maybe Myles tell no, thank you, I'm not going
to Tom Cruise's creepy house by myself. And then Glenn
Powell went to Tom Cruise's film school, which was just
him sitting alone for seven hours watching videos that Tom
Cruise had selected for him.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yea, by himself in his house.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I hope you got some coconut cake anyway. I don't
want to crush the intent streams. I don't think Sydney
Sweeney and Glenn Power are together. But also maybe something
happened at the wedding. Wedding's very romantic, notoriously very pro.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Look, I don't think so, but I hope I'm wrong.
I hope I'm wrong, but I just think, you know,
we can't just go off that one so she could.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Still be with her fiance.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We don't know. I know she's sitting there reading all
these things with her fiance being like, we just had
to postpone the wedding because of the six movies we're mating.
But I don't think so. I definitely think they're broken up.
That's one thing I can say for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Thank you so much for listening to this bill today,
and don't forget to leave us a review on Apple
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Speaker 2 (31:20):
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