July 16, 2026 • 27 mins
Abbey and Georgie are off this week but will return on Friday the 24th of July after a much needed rest. In this episode we look back at some of our favourite moments from the past few months to keep you going.
- Surfing icon Layne Beachley tells us how over a decade of campaigning led to finally achieving equal pay for women.
- The Wiggles Simon and John joined us earlier in the year, to talk resilience as an Eels fan, fatherhood and their love of sport.
- Luke Bateman, former NRL star and current BookTok hearthrob shared how it was growing up in Queensland as a lover of books.
- And Niav Owens, friend of the pod and host of SBS' World Cup coverage, told Abbey how she dealt with 1:30am wake up calls and hosting with Harry Kewell.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast. There were injurie people, this land was never seated,
always was always will be.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, dearest listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
My name's Abbi Jelmy and Georgie Tunny and I are
having a bit of a bye round this week. Yes
that's right. Even your favorite teams sometimes need a bit
of a mid season refresh. So we're going to come
back bigger and better than ever with our next episode.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for listening. As always, until next week,
Be good.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Sport, Lane Beachley, Welcome to Two Good Sports.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I spent a year or I spent some time working
with Samantha Stoso, and I went to Abu Dhabi as
a bit like a bit of a mindset coach at
the time. And I met Serena Williams's sister and she
taught not venus the.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Other one, the one doesn't play tennis, Yes okay, And.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
She said, Serena's going to need to marry well because
she only earned fourteen million dollars, you know, throughout her career.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And I looked at.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Sam and I said, should I tell her that I
was on tour for nineteen years and earned half a
million dollars in my career or should I just stay silent?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Wait, let's just highlight that because I think sometimes we
think of surfing and it is as Australians. You're the
glamour athletes, right, You're the ones that we want to
pin up, the people that are on the cover of
Men's and Women's Health. It's almost your ideal Australian is
someone who's well, if you're a spatter of freckles in
the sea, salt in their hair and just what do
(01:38):
you mean.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That over your career that was your earnings?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like pardon well, it was a misogynistic shit show. Back
in the nineties, there was very limited support and recognition
for women in the world of surfing. And have you
seen the documentary Girls Can't Serve?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh no, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, I have to watch that documentary.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's a beautiful snapshot of what we endured and how
we're about to overcome it to achieve pay equity in
twenty nineteen. But in the lead up to all of that,
it was a challenging time because the men didn't respect us,
the governing body didn't respect us, in the industry didn't
want anything to do with us. So we were like
this side show that was just constantly on pause. And
if they wanted to save money, they would cancel our events.
(02:20):
And if they wanted to change that a chain turner
event into a bikini contest, and they could do that too.
They just you know, we were if the ways turned
the shit, they send the girls out. We were just
constantly this second class fiddle that just weren't really respected
or regarded as being I don't know, a viable thing
for surfing. And it took a long time and a
(02:41):
lot of battles at the beach and in the boardroom
to get surfing to where it is today. So I'm
incredibly proud that my predecessors, my generation, and future generations
have all done their bit to ensure that women's surfing
is in a really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Place right now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You mentioned that pay parody in twenty nineteen, and you've
spoken previously that of all your achievements, it's not the trophies,
it's that that you're most proud of. How much of
a battle was it, and were there moments where you
believed that it just wouldn't get there?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh, that was majority of my career. I never believed
it it would achieve.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That I was.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
When the CEO called me to tell me that they
had agreed on pay equity and that I was part
of the transition and part of the fight, it brought
me to tears, because there were a lot of times
when I was brought to tears in the water and
at the boardroom. I just felt so rejected, so misunderstood,
(03:37):
so devalued. And I held that very close because it
wasn't just me that felt that way. It was the
whole of women's surfing that felt that way. And even
though I was the representative at the board table, when
my voice doesn't feel like it's being heard and respected,
I take that as the whole of women's surfing is
being seen and disrespect it in that way too, which
(04:01):
made it very difficult for me or challenging to navigate
that path while I'm the world champion of the sport
but also the director or representative of the sport at
the executive table. And then they revoked our vote from
the table, so then we had to then present our
whatever our I was about to use demands, but our
requests and desires. Oh no, women of course, make demands,
(04:23):
make demands, as you know, it's so bossy and yeah,
the worst I had to deliver those all through the
band and then they had to represent us at the table,
and yeah, it was a it was a tug of
war that has resulted now in you know, girls earning
more in one year than I earned in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yes, yeah, Molly Picchlm's probably all of the joys, but
also a change in the way that we can assume
the sport right Like social media means that you can
market yourself and you can be like, put your brand
out there, whereas once point a time it would have
been the line share of your income is just what
the sport believes it you're worth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay, what's our fun fact?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You have one?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh no, I do.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Fun fact is Caitlyn Clark ranks as number two in
overall US basketball jersey sales period. Really so it goes
Steph Curry, Caitlyn Clark, Lebron James, No way above Lebron?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What above Lebron? Oh my god, oh my god, believable.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Louis needs to be saying, can I play with Kitlyn.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Clark outsold Lebron? Luka Doncic and even Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Jeez, love it. We love that, dear listeners.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
As you know, it takes quite a lot from us
to deviate from sport on this podcast, so much so
that Georgie started another one about Taylor Swift because we've had.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Enough of it here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But today today's about my top artist. I am proudly
slash terrifyingly in the top one percent of listeners, which
is really competitive. It's a really competitive market for our
next up guest.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It doesn't surprise me at all that you are the
top one percent, Thank you very much. That you don't
do anything by hars, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They are the most successful Australian act of all time,
one of the most, if not the most successful children's
entertainers in the world. They were founded the same year
as our dear Georgie Toney in nineteen ninety one. And
fun fact, we're inverting the show today having a fun fact.
Early started outs the cockroaches. Ah yes, and much like
(06:33):
the cockroaches, they will infiltrate every part of your life
because once they are in your home, there's no getting
out of it. The reason why I survive parenting because
when my kids crack it in the prem Nothing quite
solves it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Like a bit of hot potato. Please welcome to the Pod,
John and Simon.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
We're god great to be here. All we need is
a big can of spray and gets rid of that control. Yeah,
we will control well, much like the corproaches.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The Wiggles have just never die. No, he never reinventing themselves.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We're multiplying, aren't were the apocalypse?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That was meant to be a nice welcome, and now
I've made them a past. Georgie, can you please take over?
That's why I don't do them.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I heard that you were on Eels ambassador. Is that true?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yes, for their foundation, so for the chapel, the foundation
which just happened recently. But you know that the beauty
of the Paramatta Eels is it's taught me resilience. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well we'll get the targets.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We'll get there, John, We'll get there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Look, I've been an Iel support of my whole life.
My dad was an ill supporter. He supported There was
a play called Ken Thornett who was played for the Eels,
and that's so that's my my dad supported the Eels
and and early when I was young. It was the
best team you could support. In the early eighties and
the eighties we were winning everything. And then now what years
have passed, and you know, I can deal with anything
(08:04):
in life, it doesn't matter. What I love the most
after a win or a loss is going on social
media and looking at the comments.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm so glad that you said looking is going on.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Fans are brutal.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They are sports fans and Georgie and I sometimes caught
their breath as being as being part of the sporting landscape.
But there's there's not much that doesn't make it through
the filter of should I send this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, Yeah, they just go. They just commit, They commit
and look to be honest. Sometimes the internet's hilarious, but
sometimes you're like, Jesus, that's in text. You put that there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Exactly what you said, then, Simon, is what I used
to say about Fremantle. And then gratefully I'm married into
another team. Because when people are like, what was the
best thing about supporting Fremantle, I was like, well, the
color purple yea, clearly, don But then also I was like,
oh god, we just get so close and we're so far,
like it's an abusive relationship at this point. And then
my far better half played for another team and I'm like,
(08:58):
that'll do me do what.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
What happens when the Eels and Tigers play?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yes, well, yeah that we We were actually in the
UK when the last and the Tigers won. There's always
a bit of a bit of rivalry. So there's a few.
We've got Tigers, Bulldogs and Eels primarily, and a Bronco
in the Wiggles. But the bronco who's the bronco?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Who's the Bronco?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
A Locky of course.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He is named after Darren Lockyer, economic it makes sense.
It's a beautiful lockeye.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And there's Georgie's favorite Wiggles.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Sorry, the Marone wiggle og. Yeah, purple is Maron when
you think about it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
But we love you know that that Our skivvy's here.
There's the v on Our skivvies is design an n
R L jersey. That's the original design. That's why we
have it.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I did not know that you seldom because Georgie is
a heartbeat away for.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
A guys, we need to I know, I mean I
do not need to be telling you about merch, but
you need to do a Wiggles collab with every NRL teachers. Yeah, yes,
you must, you must, you must. I would take one
in every color, every single color.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
But that's how much rugby league is a big thing
amongst the Wiggles.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, oh wow, Now I can't Now, I can't look
away because it's giving the red V for the dragons,
isn't it, especially yours? Simon. Yeah, Jeremy, you have to join,
You have to come over to the league side.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No, I never will. Yeah, I know who I am,
who I am one of us.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
John wants to do, I feel, just so he can
cut his sleeves off, cut.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Chasing me.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now, Now, John, I don't want to embarrass you, but
I feel that Simon here has just actually opened the
door for this. So are you aware that potentially you're
a bit of a first trap for a lot of
mumps out there and dads and dads who just enjoy
watching the Wiggles for you too?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
First trap?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
First, you know, I didn't know what that term meant
until it was a headline somewhere. I'm like, what does
that even mean?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Like? But is that something that I don't know if
people would be so forwardcoming writing that about women as
opposed to.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Like, does it make you uncomfortable or is it just
something as part of the job.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I just I just have a laugh about it. Me
and Jesse we laugh about it, and it's it's a
weird thing. It's really weird. I was in a pop
music group for years. I was never the headline. And
now you know, we're entertaining children and I'm a family man.
Now you know, it's just different. And now I'm just
I get that title. It's just yeah, you don't know,
you don't know what to say about it. I just
(11:33):
we have a laugh and it's just it's a positive thing.
And I guess if roles were reversed or if I
just played victim one day, it's a different story.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But you know, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Abuse online just one day. Been like me too. I'm
being objective fied online. No, you know, it's it's fun,
but you are, It's fine.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I'm just being myself. And you know, I love to
stay healthy and fit and and the weird tight clothes.
And I think there's a pretty innocent.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you ask me, And that's your right, John, that's
your right. You live your truth.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We now need to see the tailored Oh, I.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Can't have it. It must be seeing guys. Thank you
so much for coming on to Good Sports and joining
us in our unhingedness and meeting us and sometimes even passing. Really,
which is a.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Two leagues to Georgia. We love that. What what's on
for me?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
What's on for the rest of the day? Are you
sparkling elsewhere? Do you wear the kit for the rest
of the day.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean we'll just leave this walk down the
street traffic, so.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Go back to the office.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
We've got We've got a bit on at the moment.
But yeah, look, you know you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Don't have an office.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's what just stunned me.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
What, yeah, is where all the offices, all that the
staff are and our TV studio, recording studio, everything is
in one building in Sydney. So we were aware out
there every day.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We need a reality show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We need a reality show. We also have a theme park.
That's what's definitely. Yeah, bid, I've been too long since
I've been there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, we need to we need to go there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Take the Wiggles on the road with two of sports
Dear listeners. We often say on this podcast that athletes
have many lives, many chapters. If you will so many reinventions.
If we were to compare trying on new lives with
maybe trying on different plot twists, our next guest has
(13:41):
more of those than the Goosebumps book you used to
read when you were growing up. But let you choose
the ending. Luke Bateman, you may have seen him with
either a steeden in his hands, a rose in his hands,
but most recently a book in his hands. He has
become the Internet boyfriend of everyone's dreams. He is the
(14:05):
thinking man who drives a tractor, who also, hey, used
to be a professional athlete. And I am so thrilled
that he is our guest this week onto Good Sports.
Would you plays welcome?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Look, babe, wow, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Girl.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Don't appreciate that that lovely? Actually it's really kind.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
How what chapter would you say your your life is
in right now?
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I always called this my little Luke chapter.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Little Luke chapter.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
What do you mean just because.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
We're going to get into deep, We're going to get deep,
We're going to get We're gonna get deep. Very early
during my addiction recovery, I had to do a lot
of inner child work, okay, and so a lot of
like working with like little Luke, and this is a
chapter that sort of is all about him.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, oh wow, And why why is this?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Why?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Why have have you found that you can now tap
into that.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Through lots and lots of therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
How good therapy? Yes, the biggest therapy ad the kids
in the world.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Yeah, no, it's fantastic. I do a lot of parts work,
which is IFS, which is internal family systems, which was
developed by American psychologists called Richard Swartz. And it's all
about working with all the different parts of yourself. And
you've got you've got heaps heaps of parts and they're
all different ages and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So, yeah, tell us a little bit about little Luke then,
because a lot of people when they talk about sport,
they talk about falling in love with it when they
were kids. Talk to us about a kid, paint a
picture of what you were like when you first went oh,
rugby league?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Quite enjoy this?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, well, growing up.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
I mean growing up I always loved books and reading,
and then I was very naturally athletic as well, so
I was lucky at that too. But everyone where I
grew up in Western Queensland, it was just was ruguarly
that's what you did. Yet it was just what you did.
There was no choice to it. It was just breathing.
(16:04):
It was like you just went to school and then
you played rugby like that's it, that's what you did.
So and I always loved it, you know. It was
always good fun going up and I think we had
there was only four there was five towns in my competition,
so every single year you'd play the same you had
the four other teams and you'd play them one hundred
thousand times each year and it was always the same kids.
(16:25):
And yeah, I loved it and just loved sport. But
I think you know, if we talk about little Luke,
like he loved books and reading and magic and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, hang on, when you say magic, do you mean
as in magic is in the fantastical realms or actual
physical magic like a magician?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Is there a difference?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Wow, here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
I've already said, Jemmy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Clear the schedule.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Clear, We've got some realms to it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
In nine hours. With you, when you look back at
that time, when did you know that you were good
enough to pursue a professional rugby league career? Because you're right,
like especially growing up where you grew up, and like
Queensland is in particular, you know, in a state of
origin where quite and our listeners know this, I say
this term with Indiemen feral, like we're fucking feryal and
(17:20):
we just are. But I mean, when did you know
that feralness could actually be concentrated into a professional career.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
We've branded you, You're one of us, You're fer.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Are you You're queens and as well?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, god, no, I mean at this time, I am
a West Australian.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So when I did move to Sydney and decided that
I wanted to work at Fox Sports, they said what
do you think of you know, rugby league? And I said,
I love the Wallabies, was my genuine answer, sitting opposite
someone who just hired me, and he was like, okay,
so the state of origin is the single most lucrative
sporting product in the country and you are bad to
the TikTok desk or.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The one that broke the scores at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And he was like, don't stop at that, but you
are not going anywhere near a mic for a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I learn very quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So when Georgie became an animal for three games a year,
and you talk about your town having four too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Don't tell Luke these things.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I said to Georgia. I'm like, so these two states,
we have more than two states.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
None of this makes any sense.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Why is this warrible the.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
AFL Grand Fund? But it is, But it is. That's
a long wind to say. I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
No, I'm not a Queenslander, but I'm very very Queensland
aligned because I learned early doors that you're either the
new South Wales or everyone else.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, yeah, very very true, very much so, very much so.
And Luke is on the right side of history.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah. But when you know, I was a Origin Knights.
For me going up, they were always the best nights
because that's when we got to get takeaway pizza. Yeah,
because we never you know, that was a trick far
o night take pizza. But I was probably twelve. I
open my eye sort of knew that I was good
(19:03):
enough perhaps one day, and that was when I very
first signed my first scholarship to the camera and when
I was twelve, so and then you know, when she
was twelve, thirteen, four and fifteen, and you're making Queens
and teams and things like that.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
You think, Oh, I'm in with a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I mean this kind of with love. But did you
enjoy Canbra the place?
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I loved Camera. I really loved living in Camera.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, lots of time to read books. Georgia.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
No, it was because it was from western Queensland. It
was just a small town, no traffic, no people. You
could go out and do something that no one would
bother her. It's just for And it was obviously because
it's all federal government. It's all really affluent and wealthy,
so all your facilities are all really nice and brand new,
and the restaurants and just everything in cameras clean and
(19:55):
nice and easy to get to.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, dear listeners, In the absence of Georgie Tunney, I
have chosen to punish her by having one of her
absolutely favorite human beings on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
To talk about one of the biggest sporting events in
the world.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And if I am going to give you an idea
of how many people's eyeballs have been on this individual
in the past eighteen days, we're talking fourteen million. It
is the most viewed sporting event in Australian sports history,
as the socceros have charged into the round of thirty
two and everyone's gone, oh, they're too young, they're not
(20:35):
going to make it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well they have.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And the person who sat on the panel alongside the
experts and has shown that she is in fact the
expert is Nevos and she joins us this week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Neba, I am so good to see.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Thank you so much for having me on. It's lovely
to see your face.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I had to put some mail on that because you
are literally Georgie's favorite person and she will be filthy
about this, but suckshit Georgie.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You went to uros. You just had to do with it.
We love you, George Nivo.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
You look radiant for someone who I can imagine has
not slept. Talk to people about what your hours are
like when you're covering a tournament like.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This, do you know?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
I think one of the things to own right off
the top, ABS is that with those incredible numbers of
ossies who have been tuning in, and it's just so
amazing to see the love that the world game and
this soccer side have been getting. We have had daylight
hour games, we have had Friday pub lunches, We've had
Sunday vo games, which is just mind blowing for Australian
(21:32):
football fans because we're used to doing the hard YAKA
in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It gets a little bit tougher from here on in.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
But we have actually had broad daylight football loving fans
in pubs and watch parties around Australia and I love
that for all of us, including me so much because
last World Cup was almost entirely overnight.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Right like we were.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
We were living on that opposite schedule to the norm.
So this time round feels like a g in so
many ways. There's still you know, the old one thirty
am call time, and you know how ridiculously early as
chicks we have to get in there before all of
the on set stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So there's some of your call times are one thirty am, nevo.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yeah, well there's yeah, one thirty, two thirty, three thirty,
that's true for some of those, for some of those
early games.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
But it's been worth it, hasn't it delivered as a
tournament so far. We had so many questions coming in
about the increased number of teams, the insane number of
games across the course of this five week tournament, and
we've had so few blowouts, We've had so much excitement,
so much to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think it's delivered ass So you are on board
because the biggest thing contention part of this tournament has
been the forty eight teams. It's the first time that
we've had a tournament like this and people laugh, going yeah,
and Italy still aren't there. The joke's there to be had,
but we're not going to have it right now because
Italians will come for me. But there is something beautiful.
You need to have the minnos to be able to
(23:00):
have those upsets. I mean Cape Verdo's clean sheet against Spain.
That's just one of the highlights where you go, what
do you mean if you are going to compare the
lives of some of these players, it's David and Glyath
but on steroids one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
And it's one of the things I have always loved
about the World Cup is that it introduces us to
these different nations around the world that we're not visiting
on holidays traditionally, that we haven't heard of. When Kurisau qualified,
I was one of those people doing the old Google.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Maps, where is Kurasau? Where are we talking?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I mean these nations have the population of Tasmania. Yeah,
and have made their.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Five thousands or Currosau.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Isn't that wild smallest nation to ever qualify for a
World Cup? And yeah, they met four time champs Germany
in game one. That scoreline was a blowout, which was
still a school line that Germans are familiar with and
we've seen at World Cups gone by. But you did think,
oh oh, like, what a baptism of fire for this team.
But ahads from there on in these players who a
(24:00):
number of whom were born in the Netherlands and they've
got kuus our heritage, but they've lent into those Dutch
colonial roots to put together this side. They have absolutely
performed and played that football that we know the Netherlands
are famous for as well. So yeah, lost to Germany,
but then drew with Ecuador. So in their first two
games they've scored a goal on the world stage. They've
(24:21):
got a point on the world stage as well, lost
to Kote Devoirs in the third game, which I have
been playing incredible football and they're in knockout stages, so
absolutely no shame in that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
But what about carba Verde, As you said the goalie
that said he couldn't afford to flya his mom there
and the shots with the tears. I mean, it's it's
almost too much. But as much as we love the minnows,
Australia were very much considered by some people, loudly Americans,
to be a layup or a minnow coming into this
(24:53):
given the inexperience, shall we say, of the side when
we beat turky A tou nil. The level of love
and immediate experts that happened across the country is something
that I think is unique to the World Cup, right
Harry Cule, Like the people that are alongside you on
the panel, Nevo, you're very much in good company in
(25:15):
that they are Australian.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Football Royalty or Football Royalty.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Tell us a little bit about what that's like and
the years that you've put into getting to that spot
so that you're like, yeah, this is exactly where I
should be.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
It's such a I've loved I've loved watching football alongside
Harry Cule. I texted my brothers at one stage during
the tournament and you know what it's like, Abs. There's
that green room where you sit before you go on air,
and there's another game on at the time. And we
were talking about whether goalkeepers are just reaching that next level.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So many of the stories around this World Cup have
been about the.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Goalkeepers as opposed to the out and out strikers and
whether that nine, that traditional kind of nine role is
changing in football and the game is played has changed,
so we don't have as much need for the Earling
Harland style finisher, who is still such a good.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
To say, how dare you but continue with your story?
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Yes, player on the world stage. And so I'm having
this chat with Harry in the green room before and
just sitting chatting football for half an hour, and I
text my brothers afterwards and I was like, two thousand
and six, mind blown?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What is this life? Right?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
How wild?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And he is just such a beautiful human who sees
the game in this.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Really special way.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
And I love One of the things I love about
our talent on this broadcast is they're all so different
and they bring different things. So Kevin Prince Boutang, who
has just lived the wildest footballing life. It's crazy, the
teams that he's played with, the players he's played against
throughout his journey. He brings such great stories and charisma
(26:54):
and character to the broadcast and so many people connect
with that. My ten year old said to me after
the first she was like, Mummy, he's.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just really real and it's so true.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He is really real
Speaker 3 (27:05):
And I love that if you know that when the
cameras stopped, that's exactly who you get.
Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast. There were injurie people, this land was never seated,
always was always will be.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, dearest listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
My name's Abbi Jelmy and Georgie Tunny and I are
having a bit of a bye round this week. Yes
that's right. Even your favorite teams sometimes need a bit
of a mid season refresh. So we're going to come
back bigger and better than ever with our next episode.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for listening. As always, until next week,
Be good.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Sport, Lane Beachley, Welcome to Two Good Sports.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I spent a year or I spent some time working
with Samantha Stoso, and I went to Abu Dhabi as
a bit like a bit of a mindset coach at
the time. And I met Serena Williams's sister and she
taught not venus the.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Other one, the one doesn't play tennis, Yes okay, And.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
She said, Serena's going to need to marry well because
she only earned fourteen million dollars, you know, throughout her career.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
And I looked at.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Sam and I said, should I tell her that I
was on tour for nineteen years and earned half a
million dollars in my career or should I just stay silent?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Wait, let's just highlight that because I think sometimes we
think of surfing and it is as Australians. You're the
glamour athletes, right, You're the ones that we want to
pin up, the people that are on the cover of
Men's and Women's Health. It's almost your ideal Australian is
someone who's well, if you're a spatter of freckles in
the sea, salt in their hair and just what do
(01:38):
you mean.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That over your career that was your earnings?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Like pardon well, it was a misogynistic shit show. Back
in the nineties, there was very limited support and recognition
for women in the world of surfing. And have you
seen the documentary Girls Can't Serve?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh no, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, I have to watch that documentary.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's a beautiful snapshot of what we endured and how
we're about to overcome it to achieve pay equity in
twenty nineteen. But in the lead up to all of that,
it was a challenging time because the men didn't respect us,
the governing body didn't respect us, in the industry didn't
want anything to do with us. So we were like
this side show that was just constantly on pause. And
if they wanted to save money, they would cancel our events.
(02:20):
And if they wanted to change that a chain turner
event into a bikini contest, and they could do that too.
They just you know, we were if the ways turned
the shit, they send the girls out. We were just
constantly this second class fiddle that just weren't really respected
or regarded as being I don't know, a viable thing
for surfing. And it took a long time and a
(02:41):
lot of battles at the beach and in the boardroom
to get surfing to where it is today. So I'm
incredibly proud that my predecessors, my generation, and future generations
have all done their bit to ensure that women's surfing
is in a really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Place right now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You mentioned that pay parody in twenty nineteen, and you've
spoken previously that of all your achievements, it's not the trophies,
it's that that you're most proud of. How much of
a battle was it, and were there moments where you
believed that it just wouldn't get there?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Oh, that was majority of my career. I never believed
it it would achieve.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That I was.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
When the CEO called me to tell me that they
had agreed on pay equity and that I was part
of the transition and part of the fight, it brought
me to tears, because there were a lot of times
when I was brought to tears in the water and
at the boardroom. I just felt so rejected, so misunderstood,
(03:37):
so devalued. And I held that very close because it
wasn't just me that felt that way. It was the
whole of women's surfing that felt that way. And even
though I was the representative at the board table, when
my voice doesn't feel like it's being heard and respected,
I take that as the whole of women's surfing is
being seen and disrespect it in that way too, which
(04:01):
made it very difficult for me or challenging to navigate
that path while I'm the world champion of the sport
but also the director or representative of the sport at
the executive table. And then they revoked our vote from
the table, so then we had to then present our
whatever our I was about to use demands, but our
requests and desires. Oh no, women of course, make demands,
(04:23):
make demands, as you know, it's so bossy and yeah,
the worst I had to deliver those all through the
band and then they had to represent us at the table,
and yeah, it was a it was a tug of
war that has resulted now in you know, girls earning
more in one year than I earned in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yes, yeah, Molly Picchlm's probably all of the joys, but
also a change in the way that we can assume
the sport right Like social media means that you can
market yourself and you can be like, put your brand
out there, whereas once point a time it would have
been the line share of your income is just what
the sport believes it you're worth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay, what's our fun fact?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You have one?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Oh no, I do.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Fun fact is Caitlyn Clark ranks as number two in
overall US basketball jersey sales period. Really so it goes
Steph Curry, Caitlyn Clark, Lebron James, No way above Lebron?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What above Lebron? Oh my god, oh my god, believable.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Louis needs to be saying, can I play with Kitlyn.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Clark outsold Lebron? Luka Doncic and even Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Jeez, love it. We love that, dear listeners.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
As you know, it takes quite a lot from us
to deviate from sport on this podcast, so much so
that Georgie started another one about Taylor Swift because we've had.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Enough of it here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But today today's about my top artist. I am proudly
slash terrifyingly in the top one percent of listeners, which
is really competitive. It's a really competitive market for our
next up guest.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It doesn't surprise me at all that you are the
top one percent, Thank you very much. That you don't
do anything by hars, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They are the most successful Australian act of all time,
one of the most, if not the most successful children's
entertainers in the world. They were founded the same year
as our dear Georgie Toney in nineteen ninety one. And
fun fact, we're inverting the show today having a fun fact.
Early started outs the cockroaches. Ah yes, and much like
(06:33):
the cockroaches, they will infiltrate every part of your life
because once they are in your home, there's no getting
out of it. The reason why I survive parenting because
when my kids crack it in the prem Nothing quite
solves it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Like a bit of hot potato. Please welcome to the Pod,
John and Simon.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
We're god great to be here. All we need is
a big can of spray and gets rid of that control. Yeah,
we will control well, much like the corproaches.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The Wiggles have just never die. No, he never reinventing themselves.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We're multiplying, aren't were the apocalypse?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That was meant to be a nice welcome, and now
I've made them a past. Georgie, can you please take over?
That's why I don't do them.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I heard that you were on Eels ambassador. Is that true?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yes, for their foundation, so for the chapel, the foundation
which just happened recently. But you know that the beauty
of the Paramatta Eels is it's taught me resilience. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well we'll get the targets.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We'll get there, John, We'll get there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Look, I've been an Iel support of my whole life.
My dad was an ill supporter. He supported There was
a play called Ken Thornett who was played for the Eels,
and that's so that's my my dad supported the Eels
and and early when I was young. It was the
best team you could support. In the early eighties and
the eighties we were winning everything. And then now what years
have passed, and you know, I can deal with anything
(08:04):
in life, it doesn't matter. What I love the most
after a win or a loss is going on social
media and looking at the comments.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm so glad that you said looking is going on.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Fans are brutal.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
They are sports fans and Georgie and I sometimes caught
their breath as being as being part of the sporting landscape.
But there's there's not much that doesn't make it through
the filter of should I send this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, Yeah, they just go. They just commit, They commit
and look to be honest. Sometimes the internet's hilarious, but
sometimes you're like, Jesus, that's in text. You put that there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Exactly what you said, then, Simon, is what I used
to say about Fremantle. And then gratefully I'm married into
another team. Because when people are like, what was the
best thing about supporting Fremantle, I was like, well, the
color purple yea, clearly, don But then also I was like,
oh god, we just get so close and we're so far,
like it's an abusive relationship at this point. And then
my far better half played for another team and I'm like,
(08:58):
that'll do me do what.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
What happens when the Eels and Tigers play?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yes, well, yeah that we We were actually in the
UK when the last and the Tigers won. There's always
a bit of a bit of rivalry. So there's a few.
We've got Tigers, Bulldogs and Eels primarily, and a Bronco
in the Wiggles. But the bronco who's the bronco?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Who's the Bronco?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
A Locky of course.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He is named after Darren Lockyer, economic it makes sense.
It's a beautiful lockeye.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And there's Georgie's favorite Wiggles.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Sorry, the Marone wiggle og. Yeah, purple is Maron when
you think about it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
But we love you know that that Our skivvy's here.
There's the v on Our skivvies is design an n
R L jersey. That's the original design. That's why we
have it.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I did not know that you seldom because Georgie is
a heartbeat away for.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
A guys, we need to I know, I mean I
do not need to be telling you about merch, but
you need to do a Wiggles collab with every NRL teachers. Yeah, yes,
you must, you must, you must. I would take one
in every color, every single color.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
But that's how much rugby league is a big thing
amongst the Wiggles.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, oh wow, Now I can't Now, I can't look
away because it's giving the red V for the dragons,
isn't it, especially yours? Simon. Yeah, Jeremy, you have to join,
You have to come over to the league side.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
No, I never will. Yeah, I know who I am,
who I am one of us.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
John wants to do, I feel, just so he can
cut his sleeves off, cut.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Chasing me.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now, Now, John, I don't want to embarrass you, but
I feel that Simon here has just actually opened the
door for this. So are you aware that potentially you're
a bit of a first trap for a lot of
mumps out there and dads and dads who just enjoy
watching the Wiggles for you too?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
First trap?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
First, you know, I didn't know what that term meant
until it was a headline somewhere. I'm like, what does
that even mean?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Like? But is that something that I don't know if
people would be so forwardcoming writing that about women as
opposed to.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Like, does it make you uncomfortable or is it just
something as part of the job.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I just I just have a laugh about it. Me
and Jesse we laugh about it, and it's it's a
weird thing. It's really weird. I was in a pop
music group for years. I was never the headline. And
now you know, we're entertaining children and I'm a family man.
Now you know, it's just different. And now I'm just
I get that title. It's just yeah, you don't know,
you don't know what to say about it. I just
(11:33):
we have a laugh and it's just it's a positive thing.
And I guess if roles were reversed or if I
just played victim one day, it's a different story.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But you know, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Abuse online just one day. Been like me too. I'm
being objective fied online. No, you know, it's it's fun,
but you are, It's fine.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I'm just being myself. And you know, I love to
stay healthy and fit and and the weird tight clothes.
And I think there's a pretty innocent.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you ask me, And that's your right, John, that's
your right. You live your truth.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We now need to see the tailored Oh, I.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Can't have it. It must be seeing guys. Thank you
so much for coming on to Good Sports and joining
us in our unhingedness and meeting us and sometimes even passing. Really,
which is a.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Two leagues to Georgia. We love that. What what's on
for me?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
What's on for the rest of the day? Are you
sparkling elsewhere? Do you wear the kit for the rest
of the day.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean we'll just leave this walk down the
street traffic, so.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Go back to the office.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
We've got We've got a bit on at the moment.
But yeah, look, you know you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Don't have an office.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's what just stunned me.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
What, yeah, is where all the offices, all that the
staff are and our TV studio, recording studio, everything is
in one building in Sydney. So we were aware out
there every day.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We need a reality show.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We need a reality show. We also have a theme park.
That's what's definitely. Yeah, bid, I've been too long since
I've been there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, we need to we need to go there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Take the Wiggles on the road with two of sports
Dear listeners. We often say on this podcast that athletes
have many lives, many chapters. If you will so many reinventions.
If we were to compare trying on new lives with
maybe trying on different plot twists, our next guest has
(13:41):
more of those than the Goosebumps book you used to
read when you were growing up. But let you choose
the ending. Luke Bateman, you may have seen him with
either a steeden in his hands, a rose in his hands,
but most recently a book in his hands. He has
become the Internet boyfriend of everyone's dreams. He is the
(14:05):
thinking man who drives a tractor, who also, hey, used
to be a professional athlete. And I am so thrilled
that he is our guest this week onto Good Sports.
Would you plays welcome?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Look, babe, wow, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Girl.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Don't appreciate that that lovely? Actually it's really kind.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
How what chapter would you say your your life is
in right now?
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I always called this my little Luke chapter.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Little Luke chapter.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
What do you mean just because.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
We're going to get into deep, We're going to get deep,
We're going to get We're gonna get deep. Very early
during my addiction recovery, I had to do a lot
of inner child work, okay, and so a lot of
like working with like little Luke, and this is a
chapter that sort of is all about him.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, oh wow, And why why is this?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Why?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Why have have you found that you can now tap
into that.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Through lots and lots of therapy?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
How good therapy? Yes, the biggest therapy ad the kids
in the world.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Yeah, no, it's fantastic. I do a lot of parts work,
which is IFS, which is internal family systems, which was
developed by American psychologists called Richard Swartz. And it's all
about working with all the different parts of yourself. And
you've got you've got heaps heaps of parts and they're
all different ages and everything like that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So, yeah, tell us a little bit about little Luke then,
because a lot of people when they talk about sport,
they talk about falling in love with it when they
were kids. Talk to us about a kid, paint a
picture of what you were like when you first went oh,
rugby league?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Quite enjoy this?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, well, growing up.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
I mean growing up I always loved books and reading,
and then I was very naturally athletic as well, so
I was lucky at that too. But everyone where I
grew up in Western Queensland, it was just was ruguarly
that's what you did. Yet it was just what you did.
There was no choice to it. It was just breathing.
(16:04):
It was like you just went to school and then
you played rugby like that's it, that's what you did.
So and I always loved it, you know. It was
always good fun going up and I think we had
there was only four there was five towns in my competition,
so every single year you'd play the same you had
the four other teams and you'd play them one hundred
thousand times each year and it was always the same kids.
(16:25):
And yeah, I loved it and just loved sport. But
I think you know, if we talk about little Luke,
like he loved books and reading and magic and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, hang on, when you say magic, do you mean
as in magic is in the fantastical realms or actual
physical magic like a magician?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Is there a difference?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Wow, here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
I've already said, Jemmy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Clear the schedule.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Clear, We've got some realms to it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
In nine hours. With you, when you look back at
that time, when did you know that you were good
enough to pursue a professional rugby league career? Because you're right,
like especially growing up where you grew up, and like
Queensland is in particular, you know, in a state of
origin where quite and our listeners know this, I say
this term with Indiemen feral, like we're fucking feryal and
(17:20):
we just are. But I mean, when did you know
that feralness could actually be concentrated into a professional career.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
We've branded you, You're one of us, You're fer.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Are you You're queens and as well?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, god, no, I mean at this time, I am
a West Australian.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So when I did move to Sydney and decided that
I wanted to work at Fox Sports, they said what
do you think of you know, rugby league? And I said,
I love the Wallabies, was my genuine answer, sitting opposite
someone who just hired me, and he was like, okay,
so the state of origin is the single most lucrative
sporting product in the country and you are bad to
the TikTok desk or.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The one that broke the scores at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And he was like, don't stop at that, but you
are not going anywhere near a mic for a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So I learn very quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So when Georgie became an animal for three games a year,
and you talk about your town having four too.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Don't tell Luke these things.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I said to Georgia. I'm like, so these two states,
we have more than two states.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
None of this makes any sense.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Why is this warrible the.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
AFL Grand Fund? But it is, But it is. That's
a long wind to say. I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
No, I'm not a Queenslander, but I'm very very Queensland
aligned because I learned early doors that you're either the
new South Wales or everyone else.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, yeah, very very true, very much so, very much so.
And Luke is on the right side of history.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah. But when you know, I was a Origin Knights.
For me going up, they were always the best nights
because that's when we got to get takeaway pizza. Yeah,
because we never you know, that was a trick far
o night take pizza. But I was probably twelve. I
open my eye sort of knew that I was good
(19:03):
enough perhaps one day, and that was when I very
first signed my first scholarship to the camera and when
I was twelve, so and then you know, when she
was twelve, thirteen, four and fifteen, and you're making Queens
and teams and things like that.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
You think, Oh, I'm in with a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I mean this kind of with love. But did you
enjoy Canbra the place?
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I loved Camera. I really loved living in Camera.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, lots of time to read books. Georgia.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
No, it was because it was from western Queensland. It
was just a small town, no traffic, no people. You
could go out and do something that no one would
bother her. It's just for And it was obviously because
it's all federal government. It's all really affluent and wealthy,
so all your facilities are all really nice and brand new,
and the restaurants and just everything in cameras clean and
(19:55):
nice and easy to get to.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, dear listeners, In the absence of Georgie Tunney, I
have chosen to punish her by having one of her
absolutely favorite human beings on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
To talk about one of the biggest sporting events in
the world.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And if I am going to give you an idea
of how many people's eyeballs have been on this individual
in the past eighteen days, we're talking fourteen million. It
is the most viewed sporting event in Australian sports history,
as the socceros have charged into the round of thirty
two and everyone's gone, oh, they're too young, they're not
(20:35):
going to make it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well they have.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And the person who sat on the panel alongside the
experts and has shown that she is in fact the
expert is Nevos and she joins us this week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Neba, I am so good to see.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Thank you so much for having me on. It's lovely
to see your face.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I had to put some mail on that because you
are literally Georgie's favorite person and she will be filthy
about this, but suckshit Georgie.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You went to uros. You just had to do with it.
We love you, George Nivo.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
You look radiant for someone who I can imagine has
not slept. Talk to people about what your hours are
like when you're covering a tournament like.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This, do you know?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
I think one of the things to own right off
the top, ABS is that with those incredible numbers of
ossies who have been tuning in, and it's just so
amazing to see the love that the world game and
this soccer side have been getting. We have had daylight
hour games, we have had Friday pub lunches, We've had
Sunday vo games, which is just mind blowing for Australian
(21:32):
football fans because we're used to doing the hard YAKA
in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It gets a little bit tougher from here on in.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
But we have actually had broad daylight football loving fans
in pubs and watch parties around Australia and I love
that for all of us, including me so much because
last World Cup was almost entirely overnight.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Right like we were.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
We were living on that opposite schedule to the norm.
So this time round feels like a g in so
many ways. There's still you know, the old one thirty
am call time, and you know how ridiculously early as
chicks we have to get in there before all of
the on set stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So there's some of your call times are one thirty am, nevo.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yeah, well there's yeah, one thirty, two thirty, three thirty,
that's true for some of those, for some of those
early games.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
But it's been worth it, hasn't it delivered as a
tournament so far. We had so many questions coming in
about the increased number of teams, the insane number of
games across the course of this five week tournament, and
we've had so few blowouts, We've had so much excitement,
so much to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think it's delivered ass So you are on board
because the biggest thing contention part of this tournament has
been the forty eight teams. It's the first time that
we've had a tournament like this and people laugh, going yeah,
and Italy still aren't there. The joke's there to be had,
but we're not going to have it right now because
Italians will come for me. But there is something beautiful.
You need to have the minnos to be able to
(23:00):
have those upsets. I mean Cape Verdo's clean sheet against Spain.
That's just one of the highlights where you go, what
do you mean if you are going to compare the
lives of some of these players, it's David and Glyath
but on steroids one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
And it's one of the things I have always loved
about the World Cup is that it introduces us to
these different nations around the world that we're not visiting
on holidays traditionally, that we haven't heard of. When Kurisau qualified,
I was one of those people doing the old Google.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Maps, where is Kurasau? Where are we talking?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I mean these nations have the population of Tasmania. Yeah,
and have made their.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Five thousands or Currosau.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Isn't that wild smallest nation to ever qualify for a
World Cup? And yeah, they met four time champs Germany
in game one. That scoreline was a blowout, which was
still a school line that Germans are familiar with and
we've seen at World Cups gone by. But you did think,
oh oh, like, what a baptism of fire for this team.
But ahads from there on in these players who a
(24:00):
number of whom were born in the Netherlands and they've
got kuus our heritage, but they've lent into those Dutch
colonial roots to put together this side. They have absolutely
performed and played that football that we know the Netherlands
are famous for as well. So yeah, lost to Germany,
but then drew with Ecuador. So in their first two
games they've scored a goal on the world stage. They've
(24:21):
got a point on the world stage as well, lost
to Kote Devoirs in the third game, which I have
been playing incredible football and they're in knockout stages, so
absolutely no shame in that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
But what about carba Verde, As you said the goalie
that said he couldn't afford to flya his mom there
and the shots with the tears. I mean, it's it's
almost too much. But as much as we love the minnows,
Australia were very much considered by some people, loudly Americans,
to be a layup or a minnow coming into this
(24:53):
given the inexperience, shall we say, of the side when
we beat turky A tou nil. The level of love
and immediate experts that happened across the country is something
that I think is unique to the World Cup, right
Harry Cule, Like the people that are alongside you on
the panel, Nevo, you're very much in good company in
(25:15):
that they are Australian.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Football Royalty or Football Royalty.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Tell us a little bit about what that's like and
the years that you've put into getting to that spot
so that you're like, yeah, this is exactly where I
should be.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
It's such a I've loved I've loved watching football alongside
Harry Cule. I texted my brothers at one stage during
the tournament and you know what it's like, Abs. There's
that green room where you sit before you go on air,
and there's another game on at the time. And we
were talking about whether goalkeepers are just reaching that next level.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So many of the stories around this World Cup have
been about the.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Goalkeepers as opposed to the out and out strikers and
whether that nine, that traditional kind of nine role is
changing in football and the game is played has changed,
so we don't have as much need for the Earling
Harland style finisher, who is still such a good.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
To say, how dare you but continue with your story?
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Yes, player on the world stage. And so I'm having
this chat with Harry in the green room before and
just sitting chatting football for half an hour, and I
text my brothers afterwards and I was like, two thousand
and six, mind blown?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What is this life? Right?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
How wild?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And he is just such a beautiful human who sees
the game in this.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Really special way.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
And I love One of the things I love about
our talent on this broadcast is they're all so different
and they bring different things. So Kevin Prince Boutang, who
has just lived the wildest footballing life. It's crazy, the
teams that he's played with, the players he's played against
throughout his journey. He brings such great stories and charisma
(26:54):
and character to the broadcast and so many people connect
with that. My ten year old said to me after
the first she was like, Mummy, he's.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just really real and it's so true.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
He is really real
Speaker 3 (27:05):
And I love that if you know that when the
cameras stopped, that's exactly who you get.
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