June 4, 2026 • 22 mins
Georgie Tunny is a published author - cue the celebrations! We talk launch week chaos, the emotional rollercoaster of releasing a debut novel, and the very weird reality of building a career in sports media that served as inspiration for the story.
'Over To You' is a work of fiction, let us be clear on that.
From her first newsroom disasters to national TV, Georgie opens up about ambition, burnout, female friendship (thanks Gelmi) and the stories behind the book everyone’s talking about. It's a behind the scenes looks at Aussie sports newsrooms. Is there any other workplace where the c-word is so normalised? Somehow we made it through the trials and tribulations of being women in sports journalism, but only just.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Oh, welcome, Welcome, one and all to a truly unhinged
episode of your favorite podcast, It is Too Good Sports
sports news told differently. I'm Georgie Tunney.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I maybe Jelmy, and I'm not a published author.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The other one of us is Life's Changed Guards of
this week, Georgie Tunney's new best selling book Thank.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You has hit bookstands. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I feel so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It has been I'm ever one for you, but in
three states in two dates.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Three states in yet minus two days, and have had
so many events, one of which you hosted with me,
the very first book launch, and that is why you
are my ultimate good sport for this episode of the podcast, honestly,
you were so divine and for everyone who was able
to get to that launch, thank you so much. For
anyone who couldn't get there, just so you know, it
(00:56):
was just the best atmosphere because it was just Gelmy
and I haven't a chat, essentially two good sports on tour,
and I feel like that's something for us to discuss
at a later day. I think that we need to
do that. If that's something that you want to you
want to see guys, let us know but I feel
like that is in our future for sure. It was
just so magical and to be able to share it
with you. Honestly, I can't think about it too much.
(01:18):
I put everything into boxes and I know that I
will open them at some point and then I'll need
at least three business years to recover from those emotions.
But right now it's wild, like it's it's it's just unbelievable.
I still can't look directly at the book. It's like
the sun, so it's I just have to squint at
it and just like shield my eyes because yeah, it's
(01:39):
it's in my mind. It's it's the biggest accomplishment of
my all. Yeah, yeah, so far. Hopefully there's more to come,
but I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Still pretty happy with it. Make my tombstone.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's fine, because you've been on Braky TV, You've been
hosting Breaky Radio, You've sort of been doing everything. Are
you like it's a lot? Do you get a break
soon soon? I don't not yet.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think this is day if we're including the book
to commitments as work, which look, it's fun work, don't
get me wrong, don't get me wrong, wonderful work, happy
to be here work, but I think this is day
nineteen in a row.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There's a peep behind the veil. Robert dropped you off
like he was dropping someone at Kinder and was like,
do you need food? Do you need sustenance?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And right on cue he's bringing in snacks because sex
we're in the area of going how like more the
point over to us so we can support you because
I'm just I've seen how much work's gone into this.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So dear listeners, there's a reason why we've gone.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know what, George has been on everyone else's pod
talking about this book, and I won't stand for it.
So this is what we're going to be talking about
today because more the point, I know our listeners are
going to want to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Know about this process.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And one of the questions that we get asked a lot,
and I'm sure that you're the same, is that when
you're out and about, people go, so you just talk
about sport for a living?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh yeah, how did.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You get into that? That's like my dream? And I'm like, yeah,
you know what, it is a dream.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But we've never on this pod spoken about how we
got into journalists.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Never, we've never discussed really our origin story, and.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We've discussed origin, and.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've discussed origin many many times. Can I also just say, guys,
as part of my book tour, I was in Brisbane.
It was a homecoming for me. And in Brisbane you
can buy like the snakes alive, Alan's lollies. It's cool,
like State's Alive, don't and it's literally blue and and
(03:36):
I'm like, she's gone early on the fun fact, guys.
But it blew my little mind. And I was like,
and this is why Queensland deserves to win every year.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is why with him.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like, honestly, I think I have them with me. I
think I've got them in my bag. But also also.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Did one of the blue snakes lose its head to
a moron snake? And technically they're no shoulders on those snakes,
so there's no shoulder charges that can ruin it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
For the final twenty minutes that you're reading.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The pack, yeah, I haven't gone through the pack with
a microscopic detail, but i'll find did you buy that?
I'll find camp?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, what you've got? No? No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How much we're rustling, we're rustling through bags. George has
not slept in eight days.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She's brought it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, there's so much, so much wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This is not sponsored, by the way, but Alan's.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Solar Snakes of origin. That snakes of origin.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What did you initially have?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
What were States Alive?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What did I stay Alive? Is better? Next?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
State's Alive? Got Alan call us these?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Please? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And look the blue is called Did you know that
the because I've Alan's, Alan's are aware of me? Because
I actually I think this is my sole food group
really is really lollies. So did you know that the
orange snakes are apricot not orange April?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's not true, it is It is true.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It is one of my only well and most popular
videos on TikTok, and they being like can you believe
this is apricot?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But also what legal battle did they use? They couldn't
go with orange? You're worth giving? We need to pivot.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, so these ones berry breeze for the blues yuck.
I mean it'll be delicious berry for blue. Yeah, very
bleak breeze, and then zingy strawberry is going to be
the is going to be the Marna.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Haven't cracked it. Haven't cracked it all right, So I
don't think that we need to go mock bang where
you and I chew some lollies and people just enjoy
the journey.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But yes, so that that is a fun fact. We're deviating. However,
Jelmy also in my state of origin quite literally when
I was there on book tour, I also discovered that
this podcast and you and I we get we're cutting through.
We're cutting through. The clubs are starting to notice. And
by the clubs, I mean my club, the Brisbane Broncos.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You weren't allowed anywhere near the club?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Were you?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is that what happened? They were like, we've heard of you.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, so yes, they put up which has hats and
those you stay behind? You stay behind them, which which
you over there? However they get where on their merch list.
We're on their pr list, and tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I can be bought with merch. You know this about
me is honestly it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
How it's the hot black jerseys in support of a
good cause for the Black Dog Institute, and they have
sent us one for you, one for me with hand messages.
Look Abby, you bring such warmth and ease to everything
you do. Appreciate the way you tell the stories that matter.
Love the Broncos Oh no, we love the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Come on you always, I've always have.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Me, Georgie. Thank you for keeping things light even when
everything's moving fast. Keep shining bright.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Okay, they don't know who you are. Nothing about your
love for the Broncos is light.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are you joking?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They may have missed up, they may have missed some
miss up?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Do they know which one of us we are?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Keep shining bright, it's making all the difference. Love your Broncos,
your Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Can we can? We just sussess that you're okay with
wearing a black.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, because it's not panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because it's not panthers. It's okay, great, And.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
These are the best jerseys in the league, hands down
the best jerseys. They are and that's a universal truth
and also universal truth.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I can't wait to wear it, I know.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Thank you so thank you so much, and wear it.
Oh my god. Anyone else who wants to send us things,
please do Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But we are open to confectionery as well as merch
can be bought.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, while you advertise in the pod, send us a.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Five dollar bag of lollies and we'll give you a
full play by play on how it goes anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We love your Harvey Norman, love you, love.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Me, love you, We love you, we love you. But
this is this is, this is why I'm saying that
the book tour, which we're going to get into our
full discussions of our origin story, but let me get
back home. And it was very, very lovely that I
came home with all of these, all of these gifts
and feeling the love for for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I know you haven't spoken and much about the book,
so we're going to do that a main chat that's
coming up. George. One of the great privileges in.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
My life is to do life with you and to
have a friend that understands the weird world that is
this media landscape that we navigate together. And you and
I met over ten years ago now, which blows my
mind that it was using and go in a basement
called the Fox Sports newsroom where we were both interns together,
(08:36):
and I knew that it was love when there was
a whisper of anyone watching The Bachelor and I thought, well,
obviously I don't have any friends here yet come to
my house and the relative levels of competitiveness that we
brought to a sweep that had no money. It was
just about pride indicated that this would be a friendship
(08:59):
that would.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Flourished for a very long time. It's you didn't take
the job at Fox.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You went to ABC, where you were part of their
team for more than four years, starting shifts sometimes at
two in the morning, which, again I argue, is not morning,
no night, no two is the in between, the upside
down maybe some would say.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The upside down copyright.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There you were roving reporter, non roving reporter, producer, executive producer,
did the weather presenting, also did the sports presenting, also
co hosted the breakfast program.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
There was nothing that you didn't do.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You were a jack of all trades and also a
master of all of them and the master and yeah,
I'm just gonna go through georgie'shole, bio enjoy sit back.
Then after that, when she decided to have a bit
of a change, she went to flash News, where you
were the face of that. It came and went in
a flash.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But you then got the.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Job, the job which was to sit at the desk
of the project otherwise known as the gold Logi Maker.
That's right, and watching you thrive the was one of
the great joys of my life because I've known from
the nanosecond that I met you that you were special
and that you have a special ability to be yourself
and for that warmth to translate even when the light
is blinking, Because there's some people that you know are
(10:13):
beautiful and then you see them on camera and you're like, oh,
I wish people could see the real you.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
No, people see the real you when the camera's rolling.
And that's why your rise has been so metioric. The
project May She Rest in Peace was a wonderful, wonderful
way for the world to see that you can do celebrity,
you can do hard news, but you can also make
us cry because you touch one hundred year old's knee
in a way that was totally appropriate, I promise. And
(10:40):
now you are a national news reader at Channel ten
over the weekends. But on top of that, because you
haven't been busy enough, I don't know, you appeared on
The Amazing Race. You regularly host breakfast television.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And now if you can't hear it, hang on, Oh
that sound heavy, just because it was.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That's Georgie's four hundred page debut novel. That is as
of today, and by today I mean Tuesday, available in
stores around the country, and the joy that it's brought
me to see people that you don't know post on
their social media go, oh my god, it's finally out.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I can't believe that I've finally got my hands on it.
Your firstborn has come into the world.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's Actually that is so lovely
of you to say. I will say, first off, still
waiting for my gold LOGI yeah, like that's it's got
lost somewhere. That's okay, that's okay, I'll find it. I
know I'll find it. It has been a truly, truly
overwhelming week and I just love that people have read it.
I mean even when you first read it, I was
(11:44):
it just blew my mind. And we still haven't done
like a full deep dive with all of the questions
that I want to ask you about, because we've had
to talk about the book in a way with no spoilers. True,
but it's just crazy. Like last a few of a
few of the at a few of the book launches,
people had started reading it and some people had even
finished it because they're very very fast readers, and they
(12:04):
were just like, so tell me about lou and I'm like,
oh my god, you know the characters, you know the people,
you know, like you know this world?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now, do you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You have a mind palace and for the first time
you've had it, you've had an open house into one room.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Interesting and so people are going, oh my god, tell
me about it. And you're like, you've been in here.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, I think you're inner most like you've invited everyone in, right,
And we're not going to spoil too much of the book,
but we did do a book launch which was incredible.
And the one thing I did say to Georgia when
I finished reading it, because it is a reflection of
three characters and you go from all their different perspectives
on how they navigate the media landscape. As someone who
(12:45):
works in the media landscape, naturally, when there are characters
that have certain dispositions, you go.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Who's that one based on?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I said to George at the end, I'm like,
there's some what in here is real? And you said,
on it's fiction again to our lawyers, it's fiction, fiction, fiction,
But there is one scene that actually happened to you
and it has a lot to relate back to sports journalism.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So when I was the baby cadet working at ABC,
I was working in sports broadcast. I got to do
things that was really now that I look back, it
was insane. I got to do the things that I
did so early on. Like I hosted, I was the
sideline commentator for a rugby union competition. I had a
halftime show, I had a radio show, I had a podcast.
(13:33):
It was incredible what I got to do during that
twelve months, which no one gets to do that type
of experience. But part of that included the first time
that I did everything right. So when I was doing
my domestic rugby competition sideline commentary, my very first live cross,
I had to give the weather report.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Have they a lotted So they gave you twenty seconds
of an airtime just to be like, gooday, guys, these
are the conditions.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The conditions ME mean, you know, look in the sky,
how's it looking? This is what it is. Also, I
don't know if you've heard of it, but there's a
pretty reputable source called the bomb Or of Meteorology that
can really give you some nice detail there. And I
remember I was so nervous about just not stuffing up,
not getting a word wrong that I had written out
two lines and I was like, I am going to
(14:21):
memorize this. I'm going to have it and I'm going
to be perfect and it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And I was standing there with my weather.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
They've never heard weather like this before. And I was
standing there in a terrible shapeless blazer, my actual uniform
at the ABC, especially the early days, curly hair in
like I think it was in a side plat, like
that's where we know it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, it was sorry, no one let your air of
the side side plat.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I used to have side plat because I did, do
you my own hair and make up side plat.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I do my own hair. You would never Yeah. I
came out of the womb knowing that the side plat
is what we're going on here with you.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What do you mean side plat? To have my two
lines of perfect weather in a blazer I couldn't move in.
And I remember they said, so, Georgie, take us through it.
How's it looking down there? And my brain just went
completely blank, and I have still to this day. I
don't exactly know what I said, but I am pretty
sure I started referring to what the ground smelt like
at one point, and it was just as yes, ed, yeah, yes, yeah,
(15:23):
produced their just went no and yes yes, And I
will forever remember that. I went home and I bawled
my eyes out and I was like, I can't do this.
This isn't for me on this career. Sorry what I
really thought that I was going to be good at
this and I was horrific. Here's the evidence. That was
a Saturday. I had to go back to work on Monday,
so I got over it, but it was absolutely devastating
(15:44):
at the time. So where one of the first scenes
that you meet the character Greta, who is also at
the beginning of her foray into the media industry. I
put her through exactly the.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Same you did. Yeah you did. She just had to.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And she's an ex athlete though, so she was like,
I'm returning to the scene and where people know me
and they think I'm great.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, yep, I needed to. I need to up the stakes. Obviously,
everything in the book is things I think that could
definitely happen in the media industry in a newsroom in
real life. But of course we love drama and it's fiction,
so everything is like upped a little bit. But then
also there are things that happen in real life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Are you joking? Sorry? I can counter this as someone
who's read it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
People who've never worked in a newsroom will go, wow,
all right, she's added to Mayo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm like, they where are the rest of the sauces? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
See right right. There's things that aren't in there that hopefully,
you know, sequel, sequel, sequel, we'll put in there, or
different stories and things that I can actually be like
because wouldn't believe it. People wouldn't believe it. Things people
like is it actually? Is it fiction? I'm like, well,
it is because the stuff that's actually happened me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Girls and the African Savannah.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, there is a whole scene where I do just
I do describe the newsroom in that way because it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is yeah, yeah, and we think it's normal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And the chat that happens a lot within between the girl,
between who they're working with within the newsroom. I think
for lots of people who read it, they're going to
be like, oh my god, that's quite eye opening. But
for anyone who works in the media industry, the gallows humor,
the black humor of it all, they're just going to
be like, oh, yeah, that's fine, that's how we talk
to each other because you have to, because you're you're
(17:15):
one sleep deprived yes, and then you are actually covering
stories of the worst of humanity and the best of
humanity in the same shift.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, there's also and a bit that I loved that
I haven't even mentioned to you that I love. There's
the EP and someone comes in and goes, there's been
a shooting and she goes where and because the suburb
is at of Relevent, she goes, Oh, don't put a
breaking news.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And that's the thing, right, Like you become so disassociated,
particularly when we're talking about news less than sport, but
the sports side of it all. There's also one of
the central issues that happens in this relates to cricket.
I'm not going to go through so there is sports say.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is an exclusive just for two good sports listeners.
I've not said this on any of the tours, but
part of one of the overarching arcs throughout the book
is that there is there is a murder, and it's
a murder of an international cricketer, and it becomes this
huge story that Naya one of my characters has to
has to follow and has to cover and so all
throughout everything else that they're going through, you're also like, what.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
On what happened happens to Rishan Seing?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And why does he have no shoes?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Why does have no shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I have many many questions.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That the Indian cricket teams not touring why Australia.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And it's also this idea of how important sports stars become,
Like so there is sport and the love of sport
is woven through this in terms of the connection of
family and of course the love of the Broncos and
our new merch has connected your family as well. So
there's there's so much George in there. What do you
hope people take away from it?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh? I hope that one. I hope that people just
have a great time. Because there are heavy themes in
the book.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
It's also sexy, Like it's sexy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It is yeah, thank you, thank you, it is wait
for your parents. I know, I really didn't do need
to like redact some of the chapters. I think for
mum because she does have a copy now and I'm like,
oh god, Camille also just that she hates the word.
I won't say it. She hates the sea word, and
the sea word in here. I've used it liberally. You've
used it like glitter, and that's not Cricket used it.
I've used it really liberally in there. Sorry, because that
(19:15):
used in newsrooms, you know. I think TheRoom developed that
word in it, if I'm honest, If I'm honest. But
I hope that people just have a great time reading it.
I hope that it's you know, maybe there'll be conversations
about what it is like to be in the media industry,
but at its heart, I just hope that they can
relate to it, and I hope that they think it's
honest in regards to friendship and female friendship.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I think that's like as much as we know
that it's a unique experience to look down a barrel
of a red blinking light and think X amount of
thousand people are about to watch me have a crack
at something.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's a unique part of what we do.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The push and pull and balance to find friendships in
when your lives go at varying paces, and sometimes the
what about me or if that's happening for her? I
want to feel joy, but I also feel, wait, what
am I meant to bring to the table here or
when is it my turn? I feel like that's universal,
particularly with young women, when we're always told there's this
(20:11):
clock that we have to race against, even when that
comes to fertility, let alone anything else.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, and I wanted that to be in there because
I wanted to kind of normalize that. Right Like when
I was creating the characters, I remember talking to you
about them, and it was kind of like, as I
was writing them and their ambition really came to the forefront,
I started to admire that in the characters. So it
made me look back at myself and how I view competition,
how I view my drive, and how I view my
own ambition, and almost give myself a little bit of
(20:39):
a break for it because I was like, Okay, well,
if I can admire it in fictional characters that I've
made up, Yeah, why do I judge myself so harshly?
Harshly for that? Because I think that let's just be
open and honest about it. Obviously, women are able to
be ambitious and career driven and that's okay, and sometimes
you don't have to apologize for it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I think it's also get like it's so right, and
it's also that idea that again I won't I won't
give away too much of what happens. But when you
can listen and love these characters and you get to
a point where you're like, oh, honey, you just you
need a break.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Why can't we do that for ourselves?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Like why does it need to be a fictitious character
that you can sit above and go, oh, you just
need to tap out here.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've got quick five questions for you, because then we
have to wrap up because I talked about this for
nineteen hours. Who's your favorite character?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lou?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Oh, mistering a bad time?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But I'm gonna go, Loo, what's your favorite scene?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And give me nothing away?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Ah journaling really or just hit home anyway?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Enjoy that? Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Wow wow wow wow wow? Did I did I capture
female friendship?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh? Oh yep, yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Over to you guys, over to you. Get it from
your only the best bookshops.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And I think it's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But also the other thing is send us messages about it.
And again, we do try to keep this podcast from
being self indulgent, except for the times when I'm having
a mental breakdown and we decide to lead into.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That hey down breakthrough.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Thank you and book release, I mean all part of anyway.
If you love George, which if you're finding us here,
I'm sure that you do, just like me, join me
in celebrating her by the book so we can make
a production company.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Thank you so much for you, thank you so much,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We do need a TV adaptation with love of you.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Thank you. Bye.
Oh, welcome, Welcome, one and all to a truly unhinged
episode of your favorite podcast, It is Too Good Sports
sports news told differently. I'm Georgie Tunney.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I maybe Jelmy, and I'm not a published author.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The other one of us is Life's Changed Guards of
this week, Georgie Tunney's new best selling book Thank.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You has hit bookstands. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I feel so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It has been I'm ever one for you, but in
three states in two dates.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Three states in yet minus two days, and have had
so many events, one of which you hosted with me,
the very first book launch, and that is why you
are my ultimate good sport for this episode of the podcast, honestly,
you were so divine and for everyone who was able
to get to that launch, thank you so much. For
anyone who couldn't get there, just so you know, it
(00:56):
was just the best atmosphere because it was just Gelmy
and I haven't a chat, essentially two good sports on tour,
and I feel like that's something for us to discuss
at a later day. I think that we need to
do that. If that's something that you want to you
want to see guys, let us know but I feel
like that is in our future for sure. It was
just so magical and to be able to share it
with you. Honestly, I can't think about it too much.
(01:18):
I put everything into boxes and I know that I
will open them at some point and then I'll need
at least three business years to recover from those emotions.
But right now it's wild, like it's it's it's just unbelievable.
I still can't look directly at the book. It's like
the sun, so it's I just have to squint at
it and just like shield my eyes because yeah, it's
(01:39):
it's in my mind. It's it's the biggest accomplishment of
my all. Yeah, yeah, so far. Hopefully there's more to come,
but I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Still pretty happy with it. Make my tombstone.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's fine, because you've been on Braky TV, You've been
hosting Breaky Radio, You've sort of been doing everything. Are
you like it's a lot? Do you get a break
soon soon? I don't not yet.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think this is day if we're including the book
to commitments as work, which look, it's fun work, don't
get me wrong, don't get me wrong, wonderful work, happy
to be here work, but I think this is day
nineteen in a row.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There's a peep behind the veil. Robert dropped you off
like he was dropping someone at Kinder and was like,
do you need food? Do you need sustenance?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And right on cue he's bringing in snacks because sex
we're in the area of going how like more the
point over to us so we can support you because
I'm just I've seen how much work's gone into this.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So dear listeners, there's a reason why we've gone.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know what, George has been on everyone else's pod
talking about this book, and I won't stand for it.
So this is what we're going to be talking about
today because more the point, I know our listeners are
going to want to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Know about this process.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And one of the questions that we get asked a lot,
and I'm sure that you're the same, is that when
you're out and about, people go, so you just talk
about sport for a living?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh yeah, how did.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You get into that? That's like my dream? And I'm like, yeah,
you know what, it is a dream.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But we've never on this pod spoken about how we
got into journalists.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Never, we've never discussed really our origin story, and.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We've discussed origin, and.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've discussed origin many many times. Can I also just say, guys,
as part of my book tour, I was in Brisbane.
It was a homecoming for me. And in Brisbane you
can buy like the snakes alive, Alan's lollies. It's cool,
like State's Alive, don't and it's literally blue and and
(03:36):
I'm like, she's gone early on the fun fact, guys.
But it blew my little mind. And I was like,
and this is why Queensland deserves to win every year.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is why with him.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like, honestly, I think I have them with me. I
think I've got them in my bag. But also also.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Did one of the blue snakes lose its head to
a moron snake? And technically they're no shoulders on those snakes,
so there's no shoulder charges that can ruin it.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
For the final twenty minutes that you're reading.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The pack, yeah, I haven't gone through the pack with
a microscopic detail, but i'll find did you buy that?
I'll find camp?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, what you've got? No? No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How much we're rustling, we're rustling through bags. George has
not slept in eight days.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She's brought it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, there's so much, so much wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This is not sponsored, by the way, but Alan's.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Solar Snakes of origin. That snakes of origin.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What did you initially have?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
What were States Alive?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What did I stay Alive? Is better? Next?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
State's Alive? Got Alan call us these?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Please? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And look the blue is called Did you know that
the because I've Alan's, Alan's are aware of me? Because
I actually I think this is my sole food group
really is really lollies. So did you know that the
orange snakes are apricot not orange April?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's not true, it is It is true.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It is one of my only well and most popular
videos on TikTok, and they being like can you believe
this is apricot?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But also what legal battle did they use? They couldn't
go with orange? You're worth giving? We need to pivot.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, so these ones berry breeze for the blues yuck.
I mean it'll be delicious berry for blue. Yeah, very
bleak breeze, and then zingy strawberry is going to be
the is going to be the Marna.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Haven't cracked it. Haven't cracked it all right, So I
don't think that we need to go mock bang where
you and I chew some lollies and people just enjoy
the journey.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But yes, so that that is a fun fact. We're deviating. However,
Jelmy also in my state of origin quite literally when
I was there on book tour, I also discovered that
this podcast and you and I we get we're cutting through.
We're cutting through. The clubs are starting to notice. And
by the clubs, I mean my club, the Brisbane Broncos.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You weren't allowed anywhere near the club?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Were you?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is that what happened? They were like, we've heard of you.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, so yes, they put up which has hats and
those you stay behind? You stay behind them, which which
you over there? However they get where on their merch list.
We're on their pr list, and tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I can be bought with merch. You know this about
me is honestly it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
How it's the hot black jerseys in support of a
good cause for the Black Dog Institute, and they have
sent us one for you, one for me with hand messages.
Look Abby, you bring such warmth and ease to everything
you do. Appreciate the way you tell the stories that matter.
Love the Broncos Oh no, we love the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Come on you always, I've always have.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Me, Georgie. Thank you for keeping things light even when
everything's moving fast. Keep shining bright.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Okay, they don't know who you are. Nothing about your
love for the Broncos is light.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are you joking?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They may have missed up, they may have missed some
miss up?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Do they know which one of us we are?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Keep shining bright, it's making all the difference. Love your Broncos,
your Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Can we can? We just sussess that you're okay with
wearing a black.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, because it's not panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because it's not panthers. It's okay, great, And.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
These are the best jerseys in the league, hands down
the best jerseys. They are and that's a universal truth
and also universal truth.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I can't wait to wear it, I know.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Thank you so thank you so much, and wear it.
Oh my god. Anyone else who wants to send us things,
please do Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But we are open to confectionery as well as merch
can be bought.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, while you advertise in the pod, send us a.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Five dollar bag of lollies and we'll give you a
full play by play on how it goes anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We love your Harvey Norman, love you, love.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Me, love you, We love you, we love you. But
this is this is, this is why I'm saying that
the book tour, which we're going to get into our
full discussions of our origin story, but let me get
back home. And it was very, very lovely that I
came home with all of these, all of these gifts
and feeling the love for for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I know you haven't spoken and much about the book,
so we're going to do that a main chat that's
coming up. George. One of the great privileges in.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
My life is to do life with you and to
have a friend that understands the weird world that is
this media landscape that we navigate together. And you and
I met over ten years ago now, which blows my
mind that it was using and go in a basement
called the Fox Sports newsroom where we were both interns together,
(08:36):
and I knew that it was love when there was
a whisper of anyone watching The Bachelor and I thought, well,
obviously I don't have any friends here yet come to
my house and the relative levels of competitiveness that we
brought to a sweep that had no money. It was
just about pride indicated that this would be a friendship
(08:59):
that would.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Flourished for a very long time. It's you didn't take
the job at Fox.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You went to ABC, where you were part of their
team for more than four years, starting shifts sometimes at
two in the morning, which, again I argue, is not morning,
no night, no two is the in between, the upside
down maybe some would say.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The upside down copyright.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There you were roving reporter, non roving reporter, producer, executive producer,
did the weather presenting, also did the sports presenting, also
co hosted the breakfast program.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
There was nothing that you didn't do.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You were a jack of all trades and also a
master of all of them and the master and yeah,
I'm just gonna go through georgie'shole, bio enjoy sit back.
Then after that, when she decided to have a bit
of a change, she went to flash News, where you
were the face of that. It came and went in
a flash.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But you then got the.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Job, the job which was to sit at the desk
of the project otherwise known as the gold Logi Maker.
That's right, and watching you thrive the was one of
the great joys of my life because I've known from
the nanosecond that I met you that you were special
and that you have a special ability to be yourself
and for that warmth to translate even when the light
is blinking, Because there's some people that you know are
(10:13):
beautiful and then you see them on camera and you're like, oh,
I wish people could see the real you.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
No, people see the real you when the camera's rolling.
And that's why your rise has been so metioric. The
project May She Rest in Peace was a wonderful, wonderful
way for the world to see that you can do celebrity,
you can do hard news, but you can also make
us cry because you touch one hundred year old's knee
in a way that was totally appropriate, I promise. And
(10:40):
now you are a national news reader at Channel ten
over the weekends. But on top of that, because you
haven't been busy enough, I don't know, you appeared on
The Amazing Race. You regularly host breakfast television.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
And now if you can't hear it, hang on, Oh
that sound heavy, just because it was.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That's Georgie's four hundred page debut novel. That is as
of today, and by today I mean Tuesday, available in
stores around the country, and the joy that it's brought
me to see people that you don't know post on
their social media go, oh my god, it's finally out.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I can't believe that I've finally got my hands on it.
Your firstborn has come into the world.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's Actually that is so lovely
of you to say. I will say, first off, still
waiting for my gold LOGI yeah, like that's it's got
lost somewhere. That's okay, that's okay, I'll find it. I
know I'll find it. It has been a truly, truly
overwhelming week and I just love that people have read it.
I mean even when you first read it, I was
(11:44):
it just blew my mind. And we still haven't done
like a full deep dive with all of the questions
that I want to ask you about, because we've had
to talk about the book in a way with no spoilers. True,
but it's just crazy. Like last a few of a
few of the at a few of the book launches,
people had started reading it and some people had even
finished it because they're very very fast readers, and they
(12:04):
were just like, so tell me about lou and I'm like,
oh my god, you know the characters, you know the people,
you know, like you know this world?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now, do you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You have a mind palace and for the first time
you've had it, you've had an open house into one room.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Interesting and so people are going, oh my god, tell
me about it. And you're like, you've been in here.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, I think you're inner most like you've invited everyone in, right,
And we're not going to spoil too much of the book,
but we did do a book launch which was incredible.
And the one thing I did say to Georgia when
I finished reading it, because it is a reflection of
three characters and you go from all their different perspectives
on how they navigate the media landscape. As someone who
(12:45):
works in the media landscape, naturally, when there are characters
that have certain dispositions, you go.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Who's that one based on?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I said to George at the end, I'm like,
there's some what in here is real? And you said,
on it's fiction again to our lawyers, it's fiction, fiction, fiction,
But there is one scene that actually happened to you
and it has a lot to relate back to sports journalism.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So when I was the baby cadet working at ABC,
I was working in sports broadcast. I got to do
things that was really now that I look back, it
was insane. I got to do the things that I
did so early on. Like I hosted, I was the
sideline commentator for a rugby union competition. I had a
halftime show, I had a radio show, I had a podcast.
(13:33):
It was incredible what I got to do during that
twelve months, which no one gets to do that type
of experience. But part of that included the first time
that I did everything right. So when I was doing
my domestic rugby competition sideline commentary, my very first live cross,
I had to give the weather report.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Have they a lotted So they gave you twenty seconds
of an airtime just to be like, gooday, guys, these
are the conditions.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The conditions ME mean, you know, look in the sky,
how's it looking? This is what it is. Also, I
don't know if you've heard of it, but there's a
pretty reputable source called the bomb Or of Meteorology that
can really give you some nice detail there. And I
remember I was so nervous about just not stuffing up,
not getting a word wrong that I had written out
two lines and I was like, I am going to
(14:21):
memorize this. I'm going to have it and I'm going
to be perfect and it's going to be great.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And I was standing there with my weather.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
They've never heard weather like this before. And I was
standing there in a terrible shapeless blazer, my actual uniform
at the ABC, especially the early days, curly hair in
like I think it was in a side plat, like
that's where we know it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, it was sorry, no one let your air of
the side side plat.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I used to have side plat because I did, do
you my own hair and make up side plat.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I do my own hair. You would never Yeah. I
came out of the womb knowing that the side plat
is what we're going on here with you.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What do you mean side plat? To have my two
lines of perfect weather in a blazer I couldn't move in.
And I remember they said, so, Georgie, take us through it.
How's it looking down there? And my brain just went
completely blank, and I have still to this day. I
don't exactly know what I said, but I am pretty
sure I started referring to what the ground smelt like
at one point, and it was just as yes, ed, yeah, yes, yeah,
(15:23):
produced their just went no and yes yes, And I
will forever remember that. I went home and I bawled
my eyes out and I was like, I can't do this.
This isn't for me on this career. Sorry what I
really thought that I was going to be good at
this and I was horrific. Here's the evidence. That was
a Saturday. I had to go back to work on Monday,
so I got over it, but it was absolutely devastating
(15:44):
at the time. So where one of the first scenes
that you meet the character Greta, who is also at
the beginning of her foray into the media industry. I
put her through exactly the.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Same you did. Yeah you did. She just had to.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And she's an ex athlete though, so she was like,
I'm returning to the scene and where people know me
and they think I'm great.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, yep, I needed to. I need to up the stakes. Obviously,
everything in the book is things I think that could
definitely happen in the media industry in a newsroom in
real life. But of course we love drama and it's fiction,
so everything is like upped a little bit. But then
also there are things that happen in real life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Are you joking? Sorry? I can counter this as someone
who's read it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
People who've never worked in a newsroom will go, wow,
all right, she's added to Mayo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm like, they where are the rest of the sauces? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
See right right. There's things that aren't in there that hopefully,
you know, sequel, sequel, sequel, we'll put in there, or
different stories and things that I can actually be like
because wouldn't believe it. People wouldn't believe it. Things people
like is it actually? Is it fiction? I'm like, well,
it is because the stuff that's actually happened me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Girls and the African Savannah.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, there is a whole scene where I do just
I do describe the newsroom in that way because it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is yeah, yeah, and we think it's normal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And the chat that happens a lot within between the girl,
between who they're working with within the newsroom. I think
for lots of people who read it, they're going to
be like, oh my god, that's quite eye opening. But
for anyone who works in the media industry, the gallows humor,
the black humor of it all, they're just going to
be like, oh, yeah, that's fine, that's how we talk
to each other because you have to, because you're you're
(17:15):
one sleep deprived yes, and then you are actually covering
stories of the worst of humanity and the best of
humanity in the same shift.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, there's also and a bit that I loved that
I haven't even mentioned to you that I love. There's
the EP and someone comes in and goes, there's been
a shooting and she goes where and because the suburb
is at of Relevent, she goes, Oh, don't put a
breaking news.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And that's the thing, right, Like you become so disassociated,
particularly when we're talking about news less than sport, but
the sports side of it all. There's also one of
the central issues that happens in this relates to cricket.
I'm not going to go through so there is sports say.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is an exclusive just for two good sports listeners.
I've not said this on any of the tours, but
part of one of the overarching arcs throughout the book
is that there is there is a murder, and it's
a murder of an international cricketer, and it becomes this
huge story that Naya one of my characters has to
has to follow and has to cover and so all
throughout everything else that they're going through, you're also like, what.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
On what happened happens to Rishan Seing?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And why does he have no shoes?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Why does have no shoes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I have many many questions.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That the Indian cricket teams not touring why Australia.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And it's also this idea of how important sports stars become,
Like so there is sport and the love of sport
is woven through this in terms of the connection of
family and of course the love of the Broncos and
our new merch has connected your family as well. So
there's there's so much George in there. What do you
hope people take away from it?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh? I hope that one. I hope that people just
have a great time. Because there are heavy themes in
the book.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
It's also sexy, Like it's sexy.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It is yeah, thank you, thank you, it is wait
for your parents. I know, I really didn't do need
to like redact some of the chapters. I think for
mum because she does have a copy now and I'm like,
oh god, Camille also just that she hates the word.
I won't say it. She hates the sea word, and
the sea word in here. I've used it liberally. You've
used it like glitter, and that's not Cricket used it.
I've used it really liberally in there. Sorry, because that
(19:15):
used in newsrooms, you know. I think TheRoom developed that
word in it, if I'm honest, If I'm honest. But
I hope that people just have a great time reading it.
I hope that it's you know, maybe there'll be conversations
about what it is like to be in the media industry,
but at its heart, I just hope that they can
relate to it, and I hope that they think it's
honest in regards to friendship and female friendship.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And I think that's like as much as we know
that it's a unique experience to look down a barrel
of a red blinking light and think X amount of
thousand people are about to watch me have a crack
at something.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's a unique part of what we do.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The push and pull and balance to find friendships in
when your lives go at varying paces, and sometimes the
what about me or if that's happening for her? I
want to feel joy, but I also feel, wait, what
am I meant to bring to the table here or
when is it my turn? I feel like that's universal,
particularly with young women, when we're always told there's this
(20:11):
clock that we have to race against, even when that
comes to fertility, let alone anything else.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, and I wanted that to be in there because
I wanted to kind of normalize that. Right Like when
I was creating the characters, I remember talking to you
about them, and it was kind of like, as I
was writing them and their ambition really came to the forefront,
I started to admire that in the characters. So it
made me look back at myself and how I view competition,
how I view my drive, and how I view my
own ambition, and almost give myself a little bit of
(20:39):
a break for it because I was like, Okay, well,
if I can admire it in fictional characters that I've
made up, Yeah, why do I judge myself so harshly?
Harshly for that? Because I think that let's just be
open and honest about it. Obviously, women are able to
be ambitious and career driven and that's okay, and sometimes
you don't have to apologize for it.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I think it's also get like it's so right, and
it's also that idea that again I won't I won't
give away too much of what happens. But when you
can listen and love these characters and you get to
a point where you're like, oh, honey, you just you
need a break.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Why can't we do that for ourselves?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Like why does it need to be a fictitious character
that you can sit above and go, oh, you just
need to tap out here.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've got quick five questions for you, because then we
have to wrap up because I talked about this for
nineteen hours. Who's your favorite character?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lou?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Oh, mistering a bad time?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But I'm gonna go, Loo, what's your favorite scene?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
And give me nothing away?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Ah journaling really or just hit home anyway?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Enjoy that? Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Wow wow wow wow wow? Did I did I capture
female friendship?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh? Oh yep, yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Over to you guys, over to you. Get it from
your only the best bookshops.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And I think it's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But also the other thing is send us messages about it.
And again, we do try to keep this podcast from
being self indulgent, except for the times when I'm having
a mental breakdown and we decide to lead into.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That hey down breakthrough.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Thank you and book release, I mean all part of anyway.
If you love George, which if you're finding us here,
I'm sure that you do, just like me, join me
in celebrating her by the book so we can make
a production company.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Thank you so much for you, thank you so much,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
We do need a TV adaptation with love of you.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Thank you. Bye.
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