Dear Wiggles: Am I Passing My Fears Onto My Child?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Wiggles acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia
and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay
our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome to Wiggle Talk, a podcast for parents. Hello everybody,
My name is Locke and I am the Purple Wiggle.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello everyone, my name is Simon and I am the
Red Wiggle Locke. Yes, I've got a new morning routine. Really, yes, excellence,
this is what we're here for. Yeah, I've decided. Well,
you know, I was informed by an unqualified person on Instagram. Yes,
to do a glass of salty water in the morning,

(00:48):
of warm salty water to drink, to drink, and apparently
it's really good for your digestion, for your overall health,
your well being. You can't do table salt. You've got
to do like you him, a pink salts or something,
a couple of pinches, not so it's over like, not
like you know you've got. It's got to be manageable,
and apparently it's excellent for you. I'm not a dog.

(01:11):
Please don't follow my advice anyone, because I really have
no proof. I haven't felt any different and it was
from an unqualified person on Instagram, But I did do
research about it and apparently it's a thing. Even just
a warm glass of water in the morning on an
empty stomach, or this is on an empty stomach is
the best thing, one of the best things you can do, wow,

(01:31):
for your body, for your circulation. So salt as well,
like it's electrolytes, right, so if you're working hard too,
you're putting the salts back in your body, which we
tend to get from more sugary drinks which have the
electrolytes in it, so eradicating that that's meant to be
good for your body. You could put a bit of lemonade.
Are you boiling the kettle? Well, we have one of
those instant so yeah. So I put a little dash

(01:57):
of hot yep to dissolve the salt, pinchers in the salt,
stir it around, and then fill the rest up with
some cold water so it's warm, right, and I drink
it and little bit of gargling, swish it around the mouth,
and that's how I'm starting my day, Okay. I tend
to mix a little bit of salty water hot water,
get a knife out of the drawer, and mix it

(02:19):
with that knife. Is that now a dirty knife? Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, No, that's probably the cleanest clean knife.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah. I haven't known what to do with it. I
put it in the sink and I wash it. But no, no,
just wipe it down and put it back in the drawer.
Use it for your edge of my toast. Yeah, that's true.
Extra salt. That wouldn't be dirty as you lick it. Yeah,
I haven't. No, it's just stirred salty water. I've been
unsure whether that is now class is a dirty knife
or not. You could air dry that. Don't put it

(02:46):
straight strap of the drawer, put it in the air fryer,
the air dryer. Yeah. Okay, Well that's good. That's my
new routine.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, Well, I'm interested. Does it send you to the
toilet more?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I mean it hasn't, okay, but I think that's
as well. I'm pretty I'm quite regular anyway regardless, so
I don't That hasn't changed a lot. That's good. I
used to have a bit of anxiety on the tour bus.
It's amazing what your mind can do, how you can
work through things. A bit of that tour bus anxiety
because I'm a very regular morning person. Right, And if

(03:19):
we spend the night on a bus and we're still
driving and you can't do number twos in the bus.
We've discussed before, but it's amazing what your mind can do,
you know. And then when you get closer, it's really
got a key into that bus driver takes that last
wrong turn. I know. Yeah, anyway, that's that's it. That's okay, Well,

(03:40):
keep going for the Because you're you're a big you're like,
you've got your water things going on. You don't do
plastic bottles. Shake your water because it ignites the well shelf.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Water just sits, doesn't it. Yeah, that's not like the ocean,
and the ocean ever sits. No, ocean constantly flows, like
your body constantly flows.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, so I shake my water.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I actually haven't done that for I'm going to do that.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Thank you so much. Shaking it put a bit of
salt in it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You kind of said, I do bottled water, glass bottled water,
which is getting increasingly hard to find. And then I
find I just don't drink water, which is probably not
very good. But then you've you've come to tell me
that even the old lids on the glass bottle release
a little bit of plastic into the bottle.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, this is from another unqualified sauce. I'm hoping apparently
you know the plastics, which is why you want to
stay away from plastics. They have glass bottle, yes, but
the lid of the lid releases plastics into the water. Anyway,
and they've done tests and there's just as much plastic
in your glass bottled water as your plastic bottle water.

(04:42):
But once again, please nobody take my word for any
of this. I'm going to do it reources like myself.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Drill into the bottle at the top and just put a.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Storing when you drill. That's glass.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Drink.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Anyway, that's on your routine. I might do a bit
more research, yep, but so far have any benefits or
anything worse, So I think it's going well.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay, Well, you are replacing your soul, so yes, that's
that's right.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah. And I have having some calf issues lately. Well yes, yeah, anyway,
we'll talk about that later. Wigle Talk, Talk Talk, Wigle Talk.
It's the Wiggle authorized by Simon Lockey.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
We are here to take your questions, your dilemmas and
the very real things that our children mirror back to us,
whether we like it or not, and today's one is
very relatable because toddlers don't just copy our words, they
copy our feelings. Now Catherine has written in from Yorkshire
with a question about fears, phobias and spiders. We did
that great song.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
And we different Friendly Little Spider build it and Ash
was in that, yeah, he was, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm on the Halloween. That was a very good Simon song.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Thank you, Locky. So it's a letter from Katherine, says, Hi,
Simon and Lockey. I'm a mum to almost three year
old daughter and she's now at the stage of copying
and picking up everything we say and do. I have
a few little phobias, from being scared of spiders to
not being able to walk in swimming pool, changing room
floors barefoot. Weird, I know, Katherine, not that weird. I'm

(06:16):
with you. That's a Simon classic. Yeah, that's a Simon classic.
Now I'm becoming more conscious of these and trying so
hard to overcome them so I don't pass them on
to my daughter. Is there anything like this you have
experienced and how have you approached it? Have you embraced
being scared and explained it to the children or tried
to overcome it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
The first thing that comes to mind, Catherine is we
were at a like a fair, her country fair recently.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I hadn't finished. Oh, Jenna, that's my daughter. She loves spiders,
and at the she absolutely loves spiders and at the
moment always wants to keep them when she finds one.
So it's been tricky to overcome because Catherine, she's saying
she has a fear of spiders. Thankfully, we don't have

(07:00):
spiders too big or dangerous over here in the UK. Help.
That's from Katherine.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Now, Lucky you're saying, I'm very sorry, that's okay, apologies,
no problem, No, But what I was going to say
was that children don't necessarily find these things scary.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Because we were at a country fair a while ago
with my mum, so the kid's grandma and I went
off to get some tickets for some of the rides
and came back and Grandma had got a snake from
the snake man who was showing the snake around, and
the girls were patting it and absolutely freaked me out.

(07:37):
But there they were just padding this lovely snake and going, oh, daddy,
it feels so soft, and I'm like, great, that is excellent.
I'm walking over to buy some more tickets because they
scare me. But it's funny what we do in our minds. Yeah,
And Catherine said that there's no really dangerous spiders in
the UK, so that they're not going to bite you, no,
but they do just freak you out.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well they do it. I mean it's a look at
it and everything. And like everything, we get greater fears
the older we get, and so when you're younger, you
start you're experiencing things for the first time. It's like
going on a ride at a theme park. Now to me,
that's frightening. And Ash is having a great time because
he doesn't understand the consequences. I'm thinking, I'm looking at

(08:18):
all the bolts to see if they're starting to shake
and starting to get loose. Where he's not thinking about
those things, and I guess it's the same things with spiders.
But like Catherine's saying, children of that age and even Asher,
you know, he's nearly five, but he still does it.
It's that modeling behavior and copying our behavior, and so

(08:40):
it is a really tricky thing to do when you
have a fear of something, to not show that fear
to influence how your child's going to respond to it,
as long as they're safe. For me, I'm not a
fan of spiders. I'm okay with them, but I'm not
a fan of them, and I don't want to pick
one up. I don't want to have one crawling on me.

(09:00):
All those kinds of things. But I will say to
Asha that spiders make me a little bit nervous, but
there's nothing to be scared of as long as we
don't cause a reaction. The spiders won't hurt us if
we don't hurt them, basically, And so I kind of
I think it's important for children to understand that as adults,

(09:20):
we do feel nervous about things, we do feel uncomfortable
about things. But you've also then give the alternative and
a reason why you might but what the outcome can
be if you behave in a certain way.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
And maybe it helps to kind of in that same
vein of children are naturally curious, but if you can
be curious and talk about it together and learn something
about the animal. I mean, you do have to talk
to your children about the actual dangerous ones which we
have a lot here in Australia and what not to
touch redbacks, or if you see something with that does

(09:55):
look dangerous, you don't touch it. But a lot of
these house spiders are just looks scary but aren't going
to be dangerous. But that might help too by talking
to them, and yes, definitely acknowledging your fear, but then
also having a conversation about what they do and where
they live, and what they're in their house for and
their little web and what they eat and all those

(10:15):
things which might help maybe not overcome your fear very much.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
But there's a spy that's living in a tree at
home at the back, and Ash has been a bit
funny about it. It's black and yellow spider, so it
kind of looks a bit and it just sits there innocently.
It's in its web, doesn't do anything, doesn't It really
doesn't actually move that much either. And Asher was wanting

(10:39):
me to get it to remove it, and so I
had a pool noodle And now I'm I was a
bit scared about because it did look a bit exotic.
I should have googled, gone to my unqualified sources about

(11:00):
what spider this might be. We got the pool noodle
and was reaching up into the bush. This is from
me in the pool. And so I've got it, and
I'm reaching up into the bush with this pool noodle
and of course it latches onto the pool noodles and
then starts running down the pool noodle. Yes, but you

(11:24):
know what's fascinating, which of it we talked? I talked
to Ash you about spiders can swim? Have you seen that? No,
they're like a little they like a little buoyancy vest.
And this thing was literally crawling across the water towards me,
and Catherine was saying about just keep your calm, keep

(11:45):
your Simon has never swam a fast no. But I
got it back onto the pool noodle. I managed to
wrangle it and then took my Now, my initial response
then was to squash this thing, but I can't. I
didn't want to do that either, because I didn't want
to show Asher that that's what you do to spiders.
And so, you know, we just released it back into

(12:06):
the wild, so it's there somewhere. But yeah, yeah, I
was scared. And I said to Asher that did scare
me a little bit when it was running towards me. Yes,
And he was kind of blatched on behind me sort of,
and it got me in a choke hole for protection.
And I said to him, you know what, I think
the lesson that we learned from this is probably just
we should have just left it where it was. How

(12:27):
long ago was that? It was only a few days ago?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yea, Because I feel like Spider's very good at coming
back to there.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sah, yeah, yeah, he just read his web still there.
A few little bits were broken from the attack of
the pool mood. I'll be patched up in no time. Yeah, well,
I think so. He'll pull noodle defense. So I mean, look,
this is all about spiders, you know, and that Catherine,
that was one of your you know, but germs. You

(12:53):
can't see germs. That's another thing Katherine was talking about
the community on sandals. I always make sure ashes wearing
at the swimming pool after he swims and goes into
the communal change area, puts his crops back on or
his thongs or whatever, because I do explain it's the
same concept of washing your hands and germs around. It's
just part of cleanliness and it's important to do. And

(13:16):
you've got a bit of a germ phobia, lucky, Yes,
and I remember the same, So I don't put it
in those terms. To Asher, No, I just say the
importance of cleanliness and that there are germs around that
we can't see. We need to make sure that our
feed are clean, our hands are clean, and we don't
go lying on bathroom floors. I definitely don't lie on
bathroom floors.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I just remembered in New Zealand, last time we were there,
we spent a few extra days and we went up
that horrifying big what do you call it?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's like a ski.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Lift, but oh yeah, it went so it almost went
vertical up. It's in what's the holiday Queenstown, but it
literally went up, but the big concrete pillars you could
still see. It wasn't like they'd cleared the trees up there,
assive steep mountain. And we went on it all together
as a family, and the girls and Jasper naturally just
start like rocking in it, and I couldn't just please

(14:10):
do not rock.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
And they knew I was scared.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And now they say it all the time, you're scared
of heights, but that freaks me out. And that was
a moment where I couldn't hide my yeah, because they
just sit there so innocently, just like moving this scene shaky,
Please please stop.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Do you feel like your fear of heights is related
to them at all? Or they just understand that you
have it?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
But I think so they're they're okay, and I hope
they don't have have that.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
But you're not great with lifts like going into a list, No,
same thing. Please don't jump in a lift. No, they're
totally fine with lifts. You do you express to them
that you have a concern about lifts or you just
breathe and so they don't know about it.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I tend to take the stairs floor. Literally, I've said
to data, would would you're happy to take the lift
because I'm like the stairs, which is so in your
in your head.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, I've seen you many a hotel with you, you're
twenty five k back. Could work out, yeah, lugging up
the stairs, yep. But they don't have it. They're fine.
Do they know that you have a fear of yeah, yeah, okay,
So obviously they're quite big fears for you the height
and the lift, and they understand that you have a
fear of them, but they haven't picked up on it

(15:31):
or modeled that behavior. So there's something positive to say
in that. There is, But also I think because you've
probably been open about it. Yeah, this is something daddy experiences.
It doesn't mean you have to experience. Yes, yes, that's okay.
You're doing an excellent job as a parent, a.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Far from sting them in the lift or they get
there quicker.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah they yeah, they do, and then they're just left
alone the lift doors open up and they wait for
you to come up sweating.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, Catherine, like always, we really hope that helped.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I don't think it did. But you know, I think
being honest with our children, open with our children is
a great place to start.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes, yes, well that is a wrap today on Dear Wiggles.
If you have got a question, send us a voice
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drop us an email at podcast at the Wiggles dot
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Speaker 3 (16:24):
Is there a backslash? You know how? You always say
the Wiggles dot Com Forward Slash Podcast. If you put
a backslash in there, you get the same results. Very
good question. We don't know. I'm not sure either. Let's
try it. Thanks for tuning into wiggle Talk, a podcast
for parents

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