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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My hard podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I heard a how are you guys,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Where where you guys? Look like you're lounging out there
at summertime?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah. Yeah, this is the studio at the back of
my house in Melbourne. Yeah, it's the weather's pretty good
here at the moment.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It's not quite bar and Bay, but it's still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, well, I mean we're in We're in Manhattan, so
it's much better than that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hey, first of all, really cool setup. I know you
had nothing to do with this, but we've got a
little Netflix code to access the movie on our TVs,
which my partner thought was very sexy, which got me
absolutely nowhere because she's also thirty nine weeks pregnant. But
if she wasn't, I'm pretty sure that would have led
to something. So that was I appreciate that to everyone
that gets the second one second one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There you all right, so you've been through it before?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's it's going to come in hot anyway.
But I want to indulge in your past because Woods
and I.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Like you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We met at school, we did drama together, and your
story has probably fascinated everyone who's been in that position
of sort of being where you guys are now, which is,
you know, ever since Goodwill Hunting. It was like, holy shit,
these guys want an Oscar on their first film for
writing it. And I think there's been countless people who
have ever tried that and just looked at you guys
and been like wow, and look at them now, And
(01:32):
the fact that we are interviewing you, it's very special
to us. We've always sort of idolized you and work
in a lot of circles of people who, you know,
you kind of represent the fact that you know, you
can make it in the industry without being you know,
super wealthy, if you're actually just talented and you made
it and you're doing good things.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So really cool to talk to you about that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So I want to ask, though, how important has your
friendship to each other been to where you are now?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I mean, it's kind of fundamental to who I am.
Starting with I don't think I don't think I ever
would have I never would have gone to New York
on my own as a teenager.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That would have been too overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, Ben had a kind of a bravery about him,
and just having him next to me, like seriously, like
like the I I mean, that was a huge you know.
We did things that other kids kind of don't do,
and I think we kind of egged each other on
because we both had this dream.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We both took it really seriously. It's we loved it,
it's what we wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And then going through that phase of then getting you know,
into our early twenties and being broke together in LA
and living in shitty apartments and and you know, having
to pay the bills and and and struggling, but fighting
for each other, and you know, you know, it was
always like whoever's you know. I remember him getting a
TV show. It lasted seven episodes, but we were like,
(02:58):
we're good. We got the rent covered for this, never
a doubt that, like he you know, if I had money,
I'd pay it, If he had money, he'd pay it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And it was just we you know, and then go
moving into.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
The Goodwill hunting era where we became famous, and that's
a real mindful and to have somebody go through it
also who you've known and have the exact same frame
of reference, you know, and the same sense of humor
and the same kind of world have this really weird
thing happened to them too.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, really kept my sanity for you know. Yeah, So
it's been a it's been a constant source of goodness
in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's so nice.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But I think with every famous duo, though, and Ben,
you can answer this question. I feel it's always a
light one out of the two. So out of the
two of you, who would be light all the time?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What did he pay you to ask that question? I
am busy?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
You have those I'm doing things can't always be there
right on top, right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
When the meeting I'm supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know what it's been helpful for me the last
forty five years is it got me a lot better
at patter because I can bullshit because the meeting can't
start till we're both there, right, So I'm I got
much better at small talk.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know what that's hard on that is Will. Will's
always light And in a Zoom meeting, the pattern is
hard over Zoom.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It Well, Zoom brought a whole new level. I really
leveled up my my small talks.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
People on zoom will just start, so we'll just turn
the camera now. People got hips. They mute themselves and
turned the camera off. I'm not a kid of you, guys.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Ben and I got shipped to do. I mean, we're
busy enough to not make it on time.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He's got a very you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Do the dirty work hands dude, sitting having coffee and
small talk on zoom exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, life, life must be nice for you having small
talk and coffee on it zoom.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Hey, boys, So within the relationship, just some quick questions
for you. Then who drives?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Who rutes? Shotgun them? Now our now exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
But we did kind of end up going on places
together and usually taking one car, which pretty economical.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Early on we only had to have one car that ran.
That was the pressure car would start.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Then when we were taking all the raider meetings and
for goodwill hunting, I remember we we took Ben's.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Ben had a Ford Taurus.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it's old maroon Ford tourists and it was more
comfortable than my car, which was a little accurate Integra
which you could barely fit in.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So we took the Taurus. Uh so, and then that Yeah,
bendro was an automatic transmission really made a difference, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, the stick shift in l A Traffic was a nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
In the Rippers, well boys, your your characters. By the way,
the movie's amazing. I just I love from the get
go you're trying to guess who's the crooked cop here,
like who's the dodgy one?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You follow it right until the end.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I absolutely loved it. But there's a bit of conflicts
between you guys on screen, and it gets to the
point where you guys have a bit of a physical wrestle.
I'm interested. Is that how you deal with disagreements when
you're filmmaking?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, the Australian work, that's the Australian just to punch up. Yeah, no,
we don't do that. We've never we've never gotten that
pissed off at each other.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But you know, look, we got a lot of movies
to make ahead of us time.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's been so nice to meet you guys. Thanks for
being such an icon and idol for all of us
who are sort of so keen to get to where
you are. It's awesome. You guys are so brilliant. It's
so cool to still see you making your own stuff
on your own terms.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Now it's sick. Congrats, Thank you. Guys really appreciate it.
Thanks guys, it's for a pleasure.
My hard podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I heard a how are you guys,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Where where you guys? Look like you're lounging out there
at summertime?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah. Yeah, this is the studio at the back of
my house in Melbourne. Yeah, it's the weather's pretty good
here at the moment.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It's not quite bar and Bay, but it's still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, well, I mean we're in We're in Manhattan, so
it's much better than that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hey, first of all, really cool setup. I know you
had nothing to do with this, but we've got a
little Netflix code to access the movie on our TVs,
which my partner thought was very sexy, which got me
absolutely nowhere because she's also thirty nine weeks pregnant. But
if she wasn't, I'm pretty sure that would have led
to something. So that was I appreciate that to everyone
that gets the second one second one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There you all right, so you've been through it before?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's it's going to come in hot anyway.
But I want to indulge in your past because Woods
and I.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Like you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We met at school, we did drama together, and your
story has probably fascinated everyone who's been in that position
of sort of being where you guys are now, which is,
you know, ever since Goodwill Hunting. It was like, holy shit,
these guys want an Oscar on their first film for
writing it. And I think there's been countless people who
have ever tried that and just looked at you guys
and been like wow, and look at them now, And
(01:32):
the fact that we are interviewing you, it's very special
to us. We've always sort of idolized you and work
in a lot of circles of people who, you know,
you kind of represent the fact that you know, you
can make it in the industry without being you know,
super wealthy, if you're actually just talented and you made
it and you're doing good things.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So really cool to talk to you about that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So I want to ask, though, how important has your
friendship to each other been to where you are now?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I mean, it's kind of fundamental to who I am.
Starting with I don't think I don't think I ever
would have I never would have gone to New York
on my own as a teenager.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That would have been too overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, Ben had a kind of a bravery about him,
and just having him next to me, like seriously, like
like the I I mean, that was a huge you know.
We did things that other kids kind of don't do,
and I think we kind of egged each other on
because we both had this dream.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We both took it really seriously. It's we loved it,
it's what we wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And then going through that phase of then getting you know,
into our early twenties and being broke together in LA
and living in shitty apartments and and you know, having
to pay the bills and and and struggling, but fighting
for each other, and you know, you know, it was
always like whoever's you know. I remember him getting a
TV show. It lasted seven episodes, but we were like,
(02:58):
we're good. We got the rent covered for this, never
a doubt that, like he you know, if I had money,
I'd pay it, If he had money, he'd pay it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And it was just we you know, and then go
moving into.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
The Goodwill hunting era where we became famous, and that's
a real mindful and to have somebody go through it
also who you've known and have the exact same frame
of reference, you know, and the same sense of humor
and the same kind of world have this really weird
thing happened to them too.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, really kept my sanity for you know. Yeah, So
it's been a it's been a constant source of goodness
in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's so nice.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But I think with every famous duo, though, and Ben,
you can answer this question. I feel it's always a
light one out of the two. So out of the
two of you, who would be light all the time?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What did he pay you to ask that question? I
am busy?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
You have those I'm doing things can't always be there
right on top, right.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
When the meeting I'm supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know what it's been helpful for me the last
forty five years is it got me a lot better
at patter because I can bullshit because the meeting can't
start till we're both there, right, So I'm I got
much better at small talk.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know what that's hard on that is Will. Will's
always light And in a Zoom meeting, the pattern is
hard over Zoom.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It Well, Zoom brought a whole new level. I really
leveled up my my small talks.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
People on zoom will just start, so we'll just turn
the camera now. People got hips. They mute themselves and
turned the camera off. I'm not a kid of you, guys.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Ben and I got shipped to do. I mean, we're
busy enough to not make it on time.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He's got a very you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Do the dirty work hands dude, sitting having coffee and
small talk on zoom exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, life, life must be nice for you having small
talk and coffee on it zoom.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Hey, boys, So within the relationship, just some quick questions
for you. Then who drives?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Who rutes? Shotgun them? Now our now exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
But we did kind of end up going on places
together and usually taking one car, which pretty economical.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Early on we only had to have one car that ran.
That was the pressure car would start.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Then when we were taking all the raider meetings and
for goodwill hunting, I remember we we took Ben's.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Ben had a Ford Taurus.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it's old maroon Ford tourists and it was more
comfortable than my car, which was a little accurate Integra
which you could barely fit in.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So we took the Taurus. Uh so, and then that Yeah,
bendro was an automatic transmission really made a difference, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, the stick shift in l A Traffic was a nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
In the Rippers, well boys, your your characters. By the way,
the movie's amazing. I just I love from the get
go you're trying to guess who's the crooked cop here,
like who's the dodgy one?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You follow it right until the end.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I absolutely loved it. But there's a bit of conflicts
between you guys on screen, and it gets to the
point where you guys have a bit of a physical wrestle.
I'm interested. Is that how you deal with disagreements when
you're filmmaking?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, the Australian work, that's the Australian just to punch up. Yeah, no,
we don't do that. We've never we've never gotten that
pissed off at each other.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But you know, look, we got a lot of movies
to make ahead of us time.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's been so nice to meet you guys. Thanks for
being such an icon and idol for all of us
who are sort of so keen to get to where
you are. It's awesome. You guys are so brilliant. It's
so cool to still see you making your own stuff
on your own terms.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Now it's sick. Congrats, Thank you. Guys really appreciate it.
Thanks guys, it's for a pleasure.
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