July 18, 2025 • 31 mins
Brian Noe is in for Big Ben and talks about NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell Jr. stepping down amid multiple controversies, why injury replacements in All-Star games shouldn't be considered All-Stars, why a healthy Anthony Richardson isn't all that exciting, and more!
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh what is going on?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Greetings, top of the evening to you forever you're listening,
top of the early morning hours, to you, depending on
where you're at, Appreciate your checking out the show. You know,
something dawned on me today and tonight I'm getting all
these stories ready.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
For the show.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
And let me just tell you, ball is on the brain,
all right, Lots of football to discuss tonight. That's not
the only thing. Some hoops see their way into the show.
A little baseball, but heavy on the ball. Lots of football.
And I'm compiling all these stories and I'm looking at him.
I'm like, I've never really thought about it like this,
(01:16):
because I don't know if you're like me. Where I
anticipate the season coming up and then after a while,
I just I'm like, I know it's getting closer, but
based on the stories that we hear, the stories don't
get me more excited for the upcoming season, you know
what I mean? For instance, well, I'll probably hit on
(01:39):
tonight some of these holdouts, some of the second round
draft picks that are looking for guaranteed money, the idiotic
Bengals what they're doing with their first round pick Shamar Stewart.
These stories don't get me more excited for the season.
What do I care whether second rounders get fully guaranteed
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deals or you know, eighty.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Seven percent gear, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That has nothing to do with my excitement level for
the upcoming season, right, And so I thought of that,
and I'm like, that's probably why most seasons, even though
it seems like I anticipate all right, it's only like
five months away, it's only four months away, get about it,
and then boom, it's there. And I'm like, why was
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I anticipating it four months out? But then like two
months out, I just kind of I stopped doing the countdown.
You know, I think it has a lot to do
with the nature of the stories that you hear about
and so I'm gonna try to keep that in mind tonight.
I think that some of these stories are interesting even
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though they don't necessarily get me excited for the upcoming season.
So I think if you have an interesting story that
also gets you more excited for the upcoming season, that's
a double win right there. That is a double win win, win,
as we say in the business here. But I also
think that some of these stories that don't get you
excited for the upcoming season do have a place. And
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that's not to be a complete hypocrite, but I'm going
to start with one of those things, just because there
are two parts of this story and they both are insane.
It's almost like you can't make this stuff up? Are
you kidding me with this? So the news tonight is
that Lloyd Howell.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're looking at me.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Even if a diehard fan, you're like, Lloyd Howell? Should
I Did he play for the the I don't know
the Jags? Was he a backup defensive tackle five years ago?
Who is Lloyd Howell?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Lloyd Howell used to be the executive director of the
NFL Players Association As of late Thursday night, no Moss,
no more Lloyd Howell. He resigned late Thursday night, and
he cited distractions that his life leadership has caused in
recent weeks. Kind of distractions are we talking about here?
(04:05):
So this guy, Lloyd Howell, he faced a lot of scrutiny.
There was an ESPN report that came out and it
said that Lloyd Howell has maintained a part time consulting
job with the Carlyle Group. Who the heck is the
Carlyle Group. It doesn't matter. All that you need to
(04:25):
know is the Carlyle Group is now seeking minority ownership
in NFL franchises. So the guy who was the executive
director of the NFL Players Association was also a consultant
for this group that's seeking minority ownership. There are two
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very different worlds when it comes to professional football NFL.
Here it's player side, ownership side. You can't be the
executive director of the Players Association while you are a
paid consultant for a group that's trying to become a
minority owner in the NFL. You can't have both. It's
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got to be one lane or the other. Was the
old LeVar ball. Well, he said, stay in your lane.
I guess that's the thing. He's got to stay in
his lane, whether it's player's lane or ownership lane.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You gotta choose. Can't be both.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You're all over the media, you're in access, You're going
from lane to lane over here Lloyd Howell. So he
resigned from the Players Association as the executive director. That's
the first part of it where it's crazy that he
was trying to do both. And then all these Players
Association people they had his back. They're like, Oh, all
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these accusations, this is ridiculous, and then all of a
sudden he resigns and they're like, maybe there was something
to that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
There's this other part here, though, it's not just involving
Lloyd Howell. There's another story from last month that makes
the NFLPA, right, the NFL Players Association look freaking terrible.
I can't believe this is even true. So the NFLPA
and the NFL the league, right, they had a confidential
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confidentiality agreement to keep quiet when an arbitrator ruled about
possible collusion by owners over quarterback salaries. Okay, that sounds
like you ever see like I've got Oreo the neighborhood
cat here she's taking a nap. She's very comfortable on
the couch right over there. She's very fired up for
the show tonight hanging out here. You ever see a
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cat that gets like hairball stuck in their you know,
maybe they licked their paws a little bit and then
it's just something didn't work right and they just kind
of they just do like that's what that last sentence
sounded like, where it just sounds like leh bl bl bl.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So let's break it down. This is now. It's a
little wordy.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I tried to condense it everything to the most important
parts so it doesn't just sound like yakitty yackity yackity yack. Again,
the payoff is unbelievable, So just bear with me for
a second over here. So this goes back to March
of twenty twenty two. That's when quarterback Deshaun Watson signed
that mammoth fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar contract.
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Right the NFL owners were pissed, just incredibly ticked off
about this, and so they had the owners meeting in
Florida in that same March of twenty twenty two, and
so the league, the NFL was urging ownership to restrict
guaranteed contracts. The NFL gave a presentation during the owner's meetings,
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and they even included some speaker notes. Now, it basically
is like, yo, you can't be given out these guaranteed
deals left and right. This is gonna set a precedent,
and then once the toothpaste is out of the tube,
you can't put it back. All of a sudden, the
next player in line, they're gonna win a fully guaranteed deal,
and then the next player who's got leverage is going
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to demand a fully guaranteed contract. And so we gotta
slow this train down or you guys are going to
be in a rough spot NFL ownership. That's basically what
the NFL was saying. I think the paraphrasing works way
better than reading the exact things, because it's you can
imagine it's a four score and seven years ago and
you're like, oh my gosh, this is just so boring.
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So you go back to they had this presentation, and
so an arbitrator made a ruling back in January of
this year. Okay, now what I told you the Deshaun
Watson thing twenty twenty two owners meetings in March of
twenty twenty two. Finally, this January and twenty five, an
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arbitrator determined that this March twenty twenty two presentation was
evidence of the NFL's collusive behavior. Okay, that's the way
he said it, evidence of the NFL's collusive behavior, but
he did not find the NFL guilty of collusion. This
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is the first part that blows my mind. Collusive behavior.
Not quite collusion for sure, though. That's like saying I
engaged in cheating behavior, but I'm not a cheater or
better yet, it's an arbitrator oversaw a case.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right. There's this married man.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He's fooling around with the secretary, and this arbitrator is like,
all right, even though she was nude and on this
married man's lap and making sort of I don't know,
I don't want to be too raunchy over here, but
let's just say, like, you know, certain rowing like motions.
(09:59):
You're right, I can't say for sure this guy is
a cheater. I mean, that's a little bit of a
leap right there.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
This was cheating behavior for sure, but cheating or a cheater. Ah, Oh,
that's a bit of a leap. That's basically what the
arbitrator ruled with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's unbelievable. How can you not say it's.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Anything other than collusion. You guys are actively talking about
restricting guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's collusion.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But somehow this arbitrator didn't go that far. Now we
get a little bit more evidence of collusion or at
least collusive behavior, as the arbitrator ruled. Okay, so this
goes back to twenty twenty two July. All right, so
we fast forward from March of twenty two. We're in
July of twenty two. That's when Kyler Murray, Cardinals quarterback,
he signed his contract extension five years, two hundred and
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thirty million dollars. Only one hundred and three million was
guaranteed at signing. Now, I say only because it's relative.
You know, if I signed my next contract for one
hundred and three million dollars, I'm not putting on clothes
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know what I'm saying. But it's all relative.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Deshaun Watson got two hundred and thirty million guaranteed. Kyler
Murray got one hundred and three million dollars guaranteed. Now,
there was a text exchange between Chargers owner Dean Spanos
and Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell. Okay, so Bidwell, Cardinals team
owner Kyler Murray just signed this contract, right, so, Dean
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Spanos of the Chargers, he texts Bidwell and says congratulations
on signing Murray. Bidwell responds, thanks Dino, that's my favorite
part of the Thanks Dino. These QB deals are expensive,
but we limited the fully guaranteed money and have some
pretty good language. Thankfully we have a quarterback worth paying.
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And then Dean Spanos says, your deal helps us for
our quarterback next year. Kind of sounds a little bit
like collusion, a little bit right, or exactly like collusion.
That's when Michael Bidwell he responded via text. I think
many teams will be happy with it once they have
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a chance to review. Cleveland really screwed things up, but
I was resolved to keep the guarantees relatively low. Very interesting,
right again, this arbitrator, You've found a lot of collusive behavior,
but not quite collusion. That's unbelievable. Now, this, this to me,
is the ultimate curve ball in all this stuff where
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the NFLPA just looks like a total joke. You would
think the NFLPA would be screaming with a megaphone here. Now,
all this stuff was not released, right, nothing was released.
It was Pablo Torre, remember of ESPN and does his podcast.
He found this arbitrator's sixty one page document detail ailing
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the ruling of this and so Pablo Torre, he's the
one who publicized all of these findings. The arbitrator ruled
in January of this year. Pablo Torre released this last month. Okay,
now you would be thinking the NFLPA would be screaming.
Do you see what the NFL is doing here? They're
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trying to restrict guaranteed money from our.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Players, so forth and so on. Nope, turns out the.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
NFLPA actually struck a deal with the NFL. They struck
a confidentiality agreement to hide the details of the arbitrator's
decision from the players that the NFLPA represents. Make sense
of that. What did the NFL promise the NFLPA here?
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I don't know what. They're like, hey, man, if you
do us this solid, we'll give you whatever whatever whatever.
I don't know what, But somehow the NFLPA was like, yeah,
we agree to a confidentiality agreement. We won't say anything
NFL about you guys working with ownership to try to
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limit the guaranteed money that our players that we represent
are making. That is unbelievable. If I'm an NFL player
right now, I'm looking at the Players Association like, do.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
You freaking guys know anything? Do you know what you're
doing at? What are you? What's happening over here?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The last little part of this is just for scorekeeping.
I guess the guy Lloyd Howell that we talked about
who just stepped down as the executive director of the
Players Association, he took over in twenty twenty three. Okay,
so that's important. Demorris Smith, Remember old Demorris Smith. He
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was the executive director until twenty twenty three, Right, It
was Damoris Smith from nine to twenty twenty three, and
then Lloyd Howell took over from there in twenty three.
That's important because again this all traced back to Deshaun
Watson in March of twenty twenty two, So that was
Demorris Smith overseeing that whole thing, and then it was
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Lloyd Howell later on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But just so we're clear on that this.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Wasn't Lloyd Howell screwing everything up with the twenty twenty
two collusive behavior not quite collusion, but collusive behavior. It
wasn't under his watch. What Lloyd Howell is really screwing
up is he's trying to do two things at once,
trying to represent the players and he's consulting a group
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that's vying for NFL ownership. That is, that is the
NFLPA is a total joke right now.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
If a buddy told me this, I'd be like, you're
getting something wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
This can't be true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
This is exactly what went down. Unbelievable, but that's where
we are right now, and the NFLPA is looking for
a new executive director.
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Speaker 4 (16:47):
Easy question here, why do smart leagues do dumb things?
So what got me thinking about this is Caitlin Clark
being hurt. So you probably heard, like the top of
the hour updates, Caitlin Clark has another groin injury. She's
not gonna be competing in the WNBA All Star Game.
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She's not gonna be in the three point Contest, but
she will be present. She will be there, she just
won't be competing. And so it makes me think of
what we just saw in the MLB All Star Game,
and it also made me think of the NFL. So
if you take it, peace pot piece, like Denzel said
in Man on Fire Love, that is one of my
favorite part part peace pot Piece, I want you. This
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is what Denzel was saying. But if you go piece
by piece on this one, if you look at the
MLB All Star Game, So Jacob Mizowski, he's this young
pitcher only five starts. He was fantastic in the five
starts collectively. But only five starts and he was named
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an All Star Game replacement. Like no problem, ish, right,
If you're just named a replacement, I'm a problem with that.
But the path that MLB took to get there, so
they named a bunch of replacement all Stars. You should
get replacement status, you shouldn't get All Star status. Those
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are two completely different things in my mind. If you've
got the All Star team, boom, here it is, and
then you have a picturer or two that's like, hey,
I'd love to be there, but i just pitched on Sunday,
so I'm not going to be available on Tuesday for
the game. And the MLB's like, okay, cool, we got
to name the next guy. And MLB looked to the Phillies.
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There were a couple of players that pitchers that had
better resumes than Misowski did. You had Christopher Sanchez, better
resume inarguable, Ranger Suarez better resume inarguable. But those pictures
weren't available either on Tuesday. So MLB approached them and
they were like, hey, Christopher Sanchez, see that you've you
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pitched a ton of innings. Your er is really good.
You're next in line. Can you pitch on Tuesday, and
Sanchez is like, actually, no, I can't. I'm gonna be
able to and they're like, all right, well screw it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Then you're not an All Star.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then they went to Ranger Suarez and they're like, hey, Ranger,
you've been pretty good. You got the resume here, certainly
all star caliber. Can you pitch on Tuesday? And Rangers like, no,
I just pitched right before the All Star break. I
can't pitch on Tuesday. And they're like, well, I guess
you're not an All Star either. Then they ended up
with Jacob Mazerowski. Ridiculous process. What I think should have
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happened is you have your All Star team and if
anybody needs to be replaced because they can't make it,
they're injured, they can't make the All Star Game. They're
a pitcher, and they just threw on Saturday or Sunday.
And they're like, I'm not turning around on Tuesday and
facing some of the best hitters in the game throwing
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gas when that's.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Not my routine.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I don't want to take even a small chance that
I could tweak something that I could get banged up. Hey,
if you say I can't make it, that all you do,
you're on the team. Then you name a replacement and
they're known as just that they are a replacement. That's it, right,
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they're crowd fillers. It was like at the Grammys or whatever.
You go and you sit in the seat, but you're
not an All Star. You don't get All Star classification.
If you look at Jacob Mitzerowski, he's like Baseball Reference page.
I love anything that ends in reference, like Pro Football Reference,
Basketball Reference, Baseball Reference.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Go to it all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
If you go to Baseball Reference and look up Jacob Mizerowski,
it says one time All Star. It should not say
that he's a replacement All Star. So Caitlin Clark, she
can't compete in the WNBA All Star Game. Whoever replaces
her should be an alternate, should be just that a replacement.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They should not get All Star status. They're just filling in.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Am I crazy? Why the leagues make this way more
difficult than they need to. The NFL did this last year.
So Drake may had a pretty good year with the Patriots, right,
he was a Pro Bowl fill in. If you look
at his Pro Football Reference page, one time Pro Bowler,
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it's like what he.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Was a fill in.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He's just a replacement guy. He wasn't one of the
guys that initially made it. What are we doing here?
Like again, if you're looking at this and like Brian,
what's the big deal?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Man? This is not a big deal. It's for the fans.
Who cares.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Some people might have that attitude. And the thing I
would throw out there is it's something that Kyle.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Schwarber talked about.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
He's with the Phillies there, and he talked about his
teammates not being named to the All Star team. And
it's like when we do the reunion thing, when it's
ten years from now or whatever, that's part of your resume.
They read it off. They're like five time All Stars,
so and so that's part of the deal. So it matters.
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And so for the Phillies pitchers who were next in line,
for them not to get the nod just because they
were unavailable to pitch on Tuesday is weird. But I
also add that if they're just replacing someone, if they're
just filling in, you shouldn't get All Star status anyway.
It should be here's the team, Here's who the fans
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voted for, Here's who the players voted for. Here's the team.
We have X amount of players here it is and
whoever can't make it?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Cool? We got to replace them with these other dudes.
They shouldn't get All Star status. How do you sneak in?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's the ultimate back door cover right there.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You know, it's the late bucket from half court to
cover the spread. It's more than that. You're not an
All Star. But just because someone is hurt or pitches
on Saturday or Sunday before the All Star Game, now
you're an All Star.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's the dumbest thing.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Ever, Why did they make this more complicated than it
needs to be. If you're a replacement, then that's all
the status you get. You're a replacement All Star doesn't
mean you're an All Star. And here's some audio here
to back this up. Because the late great Kobe Bryant,
when he was in his final season in the NBA
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and he had the retirement tour. When he's on the road,
they do these grand you know, entrances for him. They
announce him and you know, five time champion, they rattle
off his accomplishments. This was one of them on the
road in Detroit and they rattle off how many All
Star Games, appearances, he had, how many times he was
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an All Star?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Checked this out hat sixty six?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Do you want of the twelve pounds in high school?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I think his final plants.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
How did the poet of mom.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
In Hill and it's twenty hit a season seventeen hit
the All Star? Seventeen time All Star right there, and
they rattled off pretty much everything else Gobe did in
his career is way too long, so I just condensed it.
Here's a portion of when he was in Charlotte again,
his final season, grand entrance. They're announcing him. They announced
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how many times he was an All Star.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Time and being all shar not time and.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Be a champion.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It was side by side with how many times do
you want to ring? Like this matters. It's part of
your resume. So if you're an All Star, great, If
you need to be replaced, you're just a replacement dude.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You shouldn't get All Star status for that. Why is
this so? Why is it so difficult? Difficult at all?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's very easy, system, very and yet these leagues just complicated.
I don't know why this whole Miserrowski thing. I didn't
think of it at the time. I thought it was
ridiculous at the time that Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez
got bypassed because they were unavailable, and then they went
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to Miserowski.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So the more I think about it, none of those
freaking guys should have had All Star status. If they're
just replacements, you're just the alternate man. You're you're the
crowd filler. You're sitting in the seat that needs to
be filled. That that doesn't mean that those are your tickets.
That doesn't mean that those are your seats. You're just
filling in.
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Speaker 4 (25:47):
I saw this tweet from Adam Schefter. It just simply
says Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is believed to have recovered
from his recent right shoulder setback as the TA prepares
to report for training camp next week. Okay, if Anthony
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Richardson does anything in the NFL, not just this year,
but ever, I'll be impressed.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I don't want to write the guy off completely, and
I'm not. I'm just telling you, I'll be impressed because
so far the start has been god awful. It has
been freaking terrible when and we're only two years in,
so there might be some people that say, hey, Brian,
you know he's a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
For a reason.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He does have some ability you never know if it's realized. Well,
all of that is true. I can't dispute that, But
what I would push back on is just how much
ground he has to cover to be a legitimate starting
quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage last year was
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forty seven point seven percent. Okay, he's sub not fifty percent,
he's sub forty eight percent. Okay, he's put up in
two years numbers that in some instances are worse than
Tim Tebow's quarterback numbers in the NFL. Coincidentally, both Florida
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quarterbacks right there with a rich and Tebow. That's not
the company you want to be in. If you're Anthony Richardson,
you did not want to be shoulder to shoulder with
Tim Tebow in the stats department. But that's where he is,
and this is where I would start looking sideways at
the Colts. This is not just an Anthony Richardson thing.
This is a Colts thing. The Colts mismanaged this dude
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so badly. I would compare it to that. I'm all
about comparisons tonight. The Colts, they're like the guy who
bought this high end sports car. This guy went to
the dealership. He is like, I saved my money. I
want a Lamborghini, give me it right now, here's all
the money. And then he got it. It's back at home.
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And instead of waiting a little bit, this guy couldn't
help himself. It's raining sideways outside, the wind is going crazy,
it's even hailing a little bit. And this guy who
just bought a Lamborghini is like, I didn't buy it
just to keep it in the garage. We're going out,
We're going for a drive. Right, It's not the time
to do it. Just wait, be patient. And the Colts
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in their situation, they were not patient with Anthony Richardson
at all. Anthony Richardson in college, he threw less than
four hundred passing attempts. He had less than four hundred
passing attempts in college. You compare that to some of
these guys what they did in college. Some of them
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are throwing for over a thousand, over fifteen hundred, sometimes
over two thousand passing attempts in college. Anthony Richardson had
less than four hundred. He had no experience, and the
Colts are like, throw him in, maybe he's ready for
life in the NFL, And shockingly, he was not at all.
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They threw him in the deep end and he didn't
know how to swim. I don't know why the Colts.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Would do that. You know something that blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Think about this, Patrick Mahomes, and I could look at
it real fast here, how many will do a guessing game?
How many passing attempts? I don't know off the top
of my head. How many passing attempts do you think
Patrick Mahomes had in college?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He's a Texas tech.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
How many? Okay, got the answer right here? Yeah, this
is really toply fast. I'm getting a little bit better
at this googling thing. So, Patrick Mahomes, he threw one thousand,
three hundred and forty nine passes in college thirteen forty nine.
That's almost a thousand more passes than Anthony Richardson threw
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in college.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Okay, and what happened with those two quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Patrick Mahomes sat the entire rookie season, his entire rookie
year in the NFL except for the final game of
the regular season. He started that game. That's it against
Coops Broncos. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He started one game as a rookie. Even with almost
over a thousand more attempts in college than Anthony Richardson.
Anthony Richardson started right away, like Week five or something.
He's starting games in the NFL with no experience, a
lack of passing attempts. That was so dumb for the
(30:48):
Colts to rush that guy. He needed to sit, he
needed to develop, He did not need to be thrown
into the deep end. That was such a bad approach
by the Colts. And now you've seen what's happened the
first two years. He's been banged up like crazy. That's
not the Colts' fault, but he is a disaster as
(31:09):
a quarterback. And he's got a bright quarterback mind in
Shane Stikens. Shane Stiken was a former quarterback at a
lower level, but he knows what he's doing. It's a
good play caller, bright offensive mind, knows the quarterback position,
and Steiken's been able to do nothing so far because
they threw him in too early.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And he just wasn't ready to swim.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
And I feel bad for Anthony Richardson to a degree
because I think he would have had a better shot
to at least be in a better position to be
further developed, to not be a train wreck at this
point of his NFL career.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I think the Colts have a lot to do with that.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I don't think A. Rich has crushed it by any means,
but I think the Colts have been bad for him, bad, bad, bad,
terrible approach
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh what is going on?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Greetings, top of the evening to you forever you're listening,
top of the early morning hours, to you, depending on
where you're at, Appreciate your checking out the show. You know,
something dawned on me today and tonight I'm getting all
these stories ready.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
For the show.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
And let me just tell you, ball is on the brain,
all right, Lots of football to discuss tonight. That's not
the only thing. Some hoops see their way into the show.
A little baseball, but heavy on the ball. Lots of football.
And I'm compiling all these stories and I'm looking at him.
I'm like, I've never really thought about it like this,
(01:16):
because I don't know if you're like me. Where I
anticipate the season coming up and then after a while,
I just I'm like, I know it's getting closer, but
based on the stories that we hear, the stories don't
get me more excited for the upcoming season, you know
what I mean? For instance, well, I'll probably hit on
(01:39):
tonight some of these holdouts, some of the second round
draft picks that are looking for guaranteed money, the idiotic
Bengals what they're doing with their first round pick Shamar Stewart.
These stories don't get me more excited for the season.
What do I care whether second rounders get fully guaranteed
(02:01):
deals or you know, eighty.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Seven percent gear, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That has nothing to do with my excitement level for
the upcoming season, right, And so I thought of that,
and I'm like, that's probably why most seasons, even though
it seems like I anticipate all right, it's only like
five months away, it's only four months away, get about it,
and then boom, it's there. And I'm like, why was
(02:26):
I anticipating it four months out? But then like two
months out, I just kind of I stopped doing the countdown.
You know, I think it has a lot to do
with the nature of the stories that you hear about
and so I'm gonna try to keep that in mind tonight.
I think that some of these stories are interesting even
(02:47):
though they don't necessarily get me excited for the upcoming season.
So I think if you have an interesting story that
also gets you more excited for the upcoming season, that's
a double win right there. That is a double win win, win,
as we say in the business here. But I also
think that some of these stories that don't get you
excited for the upcoming season do have a place. And
(03:10):
that's not to be a complete hypocrite, but I'm going
to start with one of those things, just because there
are two parts of this story and they both are insane.
It's almost like you can't make this stuff up? Are
you kidding me with this? So the news tonight is
that Lloyd Howell.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're looking at me.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Even if a diehard fan, you're like, Lloyd Howell? Should
I Did he play for the the I don't know
the Jags? Was he a backup defensive tackle five years ago?
Who is Lloyd Howell?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Lloyd Howell used to be the executive director of the
NFL Players Association As of late Thursday night, no Moss,
no more Lloyd Howell. He resigned late Thursday night, and
he cited distractions that his life leadership has caused in
recent weeks. Kind of distractions are we talking about here?
(04:05):
So this guy, Lloyd Howell, he faced a lot of scrutiny.
There was an ESPN report that came out and it
said that Lloyd Howell has maintained a part time consulting
job with the Carlyle Group. Who the heck is the
Carlyle Group. It doesn't matter. All that you need to
(04:25):
know is the Carlyle Group is now seeking minority ownership
in NFL franchises. So the guy who was the executive
director of the NFL Players Association was also a consultant
for this group that's seeking minority ownership. There are two
(04:48):
very different worlds when it comes to professional football NFL.
Here it's player side, ownership side. You can't be the
executive director of the Players Association while you are a
paid consultant for a group that's trying to become a
minority owner in the NFL. You can't have both. It's
(05:11):
got to be one lane or the other. Was the
old LeVar ball. Well, he said, stay in your lane.
I guess that's the thing. He's got to stay in
his lane, whether it's player's lane or ownership lane.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You gotta choose. Can't be both.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You're all over the media, you're in access, You're going
from lane to lane over here Lloyd Howell. So he
resigned from the Players Association as the executive director. That's
the first part of it where it's crazy that he
was trying to do both. And then all these Players
Association people they had his back. They're like, Oh, all
(05:46):
these accusations, this is ridiculous, and then all of a
sudden he resigns and they're like, maybe there was something
to that.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
There's this other part here, though, it's not just involving
Lloyd Howell. There's another story from last month that makes
the NFLPA, right, the NFL Players Association look freaking terrible.
I can't believe this is even true. So the NFLPA
and the NFL the league, right, they had a confidential
(06:18):
confidentiality agreement to keep quiet when an arbitrator ruled about
possible collusion by owners over quarterback salaries. Okay, that sounds
like you ever see like I've got Oreo the neighborhood
cat here she's taking a nap. She's very comfortable on
the couch right over there. She's very fired up for
the show tonight hanging out here. You ever see a
(06:39):
cat that gets like hairball stuck in their you know,
maybe they licked their paws a little bit and then
it's just something didn't work right and they just kind
of they just do like that's what that last sentence
sounded like, where it just sounds like leh bl bl bl.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So let's break it down. This is now. It's a
little wordy.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I tried to condense it everything to the most important
parts so it doesn't just sound like yakitty yackity yackity yack. Again,
the payoff is unbelievable, So just bear with me for
a second over here. So this goes back to March
of twenty twenty two. That's when quarterback Deshaun Watson signed
that mammoth fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar contract.
(07:23):
Right the NFL owners were pissed, just incredibly ticked off
about this, and so they had the owners meeting in
Florida in that same March of twenty twenty two, and
so the league, the NFL was urging ownership to restrict
guaranteed contracts. The NFL gave a presentation during the owner's meetings,
(07:48):
and they even included some speaker notes. Now, it basically
is like, yo, you can't be given out these guaranteed
deals left and right. This is gonna set a precedent,
and then once the toothpaste is out of the tube,
you can't put it back. All of a sudden, the
next player in line, they're gonna win a fully guaranteed deal,
and then the next player who's got leverage is going
(08:10):
to demand a fully guaranteed contract. And so we gotta
slow this train down or you guys are going to
be in a rough spot NFL ownership. That's basically what
the NFL was saying. I think the paraphrasing works way
better than reading the exact things, because it's you can
imagine it's a four score and seven years ago and
you're like, oh my gosh, this is just so boring.
(08:33):
So you go back to they had this presentation, and
so an arbitrator made a ruling back in January of
this year. Okay, now what I told you the Deshaun
Watson thing twenty twenty two owners meetings in March of
twenty twenty two. Finally, this January and twenty five, an
(08:55):
arbitrator determined that this March twenty twenty two presentation was
evidence of the NFL's collusive behavior. Okay, that's the way
he said it, evidence of the NFL's collusive behavior, but
he did not find the NFL guilty of collusion. This
(09:16):
is the first part that blows my mind. Collusive behavior.
Not quite collusion for sure, though. That's like saying I
engaged in cheating behavior, but I'm not a cheater or
better yet, it's an arbitrator oversaw a case.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right. There's this married man.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He's fooling around with the secretary, and this arbitrator is like,
all right, even though she was nude and on this
married man's lap and making sort of I don't know,
I don't want to be too raunchy over here, but
let's just say, like, you know, certain rowing like motions.
(09:59):
You're right, I can't say for sure this guy is
a cheater. I mean, that's a little bit of a
leap right there.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
This was cheating behavior for sure, but cheating or a cheater. Ah, Oh,
that's a bit of a leap. That's basically what the
arbitrator ruled with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's unbelievable. How can you not say it's.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Anything other than collusion. You guys are actively talking about
restricting guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's collusion.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But somehow this arbitrator didn't go that far. Now we
get a little bit more evidence of collusion or at
least collusive behavior, as the arbitrator ruled. Okay, so this
goes back to twenty twenty two July. All right, so
we fast forward from March of twenty two. We're in
July of twenty two. That's when Kyler Murray, Cardinals quarterback,
he signed his contract extension five years, two hundred and
(10:52):
thirty million dollars. Only one hundred and three million was
guaranteed at signing. Now, I say only because it's relative.
You know, if I signed my next contract for one
hundred and three million dollars, I'm not putting on clothes
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know what I'm saying. But it's all relative.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Deshaun Watson got two hundred and thirty million guaranteed. Kyler
Murray got one hundred and three million dollars guaranteed. Now,
there was a text exchange between Chargers owner Dean Spanos
and Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell. Okay, so Bidwell, Cardinals team
owner Kyler Murray just signed this contract, right, so, Dean
(11:30):
Spanos of the Chargers, he texts Bidwell and says congratulations
on signing Murray. Bidwell responds, thanks Dino, that's my favorite
part of the Thanks Dino. These QB deals are expensive,
but we limited the fully guaranteed money and have some
pretty good language. Thankfully we have a quarterback worth paying.
(11:52):
And then Dean Spanos says, your deal helps us for
our quarterback next year. Kind of sounds a little bit
like collusion, a little bit right, or exactly like collusion.
That's when Michael Bidwell he responded via text. I think
many teams will be happy with it once they have
(12:13):
a chance to review. Cleveland really screwed things up, but
I was resolved to keep the guarantees relatively low. Very interesting,
right again, this arbitrator, You've found a lot of collusive behavior,
but not quite collusion. That's unbelievable. Now, this, this to me,
is the ultimate curve ball in all this stuff where
(12:34):
the NFLPA just looks like a total joke. You would
think the NFLPA would be screaming with a megaphone here. Now,
all this stuff was not released, right, nothing was released.
It was Pablo Torre, remember of ESPN and does his podcast.
He found this arbitrator's sixty one page document detail ailing
(13:00):
the ruling of this and so Pablo Torre, he's the
one who publicized all of these findings. The arbitrator ruled
in January of this year. Pablo Torre released this last month. Okay,
now you would be thinking the NFLPA would be screaming.
Do you see what the NFL is doing here? They're
(13:22):
trying to restrict guaranteed money from our.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Players, so forth and so on. Nope, turns out the.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
NFLPA actually struck a deal with the NFL. They struck
a confidentiality agreement to hide the details of the arbitrator's
decision from the players that the NFLPA represents. Make sense
of that. What did the NFL promise the NFLPA here?
(13:52):
I don't know what. They're like, hey, man, if you
do us this solid, we'll give you whatever whatever whatever.
I don't know what, But somehow the NFLPA was like, yeah,
we agree to a confidentiality agreement. We won't say anything
NFL about you guys working with ownership to try to
(14:13):
limit the guaranteed money that our players that we represent
are making. That is unbelievable. If I'm an NFL player
right now, I'm looking at the Players Association like, do.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
You freaking guys know anything? Do you know what you're
doing at? What are you? What's happening over here?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
The last little part of this is just for scorekeeping.
I guess the guy Lloyd Howell that we talked about
who just stepped down as the executive director of the
Players Association, he took over in twenty twenty three. Okay,
so that's important. Demorris Smith, Remember old Demorris Smith. He
(14:54):
was the executive director until twenty twenty three, Right, It
was Damoris Smith from nine to twenty twenty three, and
then Lloyd Howell took over from there in twenty three.
That's important because again this all traced back to Deshaun
Watson in March of twenty twenty two, So that was
Demorris Smith overseeing that whole thing, and then it was
(15:17):
Lloyd Howell later on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But just so we're clear on that this.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Wasn't Lloyd Howell screwing everything up with the twenty twenty
two collusive behavior not quite collusion, but collusive behavior. It
wasn't under his watch. What Lloyd Howell is really screwing
up is he's trying to do two things at once,
trying to represent the players and he's consulting a group
(15:41):
that's vying for NFL ownership. That is, that is the
NFLPA is a total joke right now.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
If a buddy told me this, I'd be like, you're
getting something wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
This can't be true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
This is exactly what went down. Unbelievable, but that's where
we are right now, and the NFLPA is looking for
a new executive director.
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Speaker 4 (16:47):
Easy question here, why do smart leagues do dumb things?
So what got me thinking about this is Caitlin Clark
being hurt. So you probably heard, like the top of
the hour updates, Caitlin Clark has another groin injury. She's
not gonna be competing in the WNBA All Star Game.
(17:08):
She's not gonna be in the three point Contest, but
she will be present. She will be there, she just
won't be competing. And so it makes me think of
what we just saw in the MLB All Star Game,
and it also made me think of the NFL. So
if you take it, peace pot piece, like Denzel said
in Man on Fire Love, that is one of my
favorite part part peace pot Piece, I want you. This
(17:33):
is what Denzel was saying. But if you go piece
by piece on this one, if you look at the
MLB All Star Game, So Jacob Mizowski, he's this young
pitcher only five starts. He was fantastic in the five
starts collectively. But only five starts and he was named
(17:53):
an All Star Game replacement. Like no problem, ish, right,
If you're just named a replacement, I'm a problem with that.
But the path that MLB took to get there, so
they named a bunch of replacement all Stars. You should
get replacement status, you shouldn't get All Star status. Those
(18:16):
are two completely different things in my mind. If you've
got the All Star team, boom, here it is, and
then you have a picturer or two that's like, hey,
I'd love to be there, but i just pitched on Sunday,
so I'm not going to be available on Tuesday for
the game. And the MLB's like, okay, cool, we got
to name the next guy. And MLB looked to the Phillies.
(18:38):
There were a couple of players that pitchers that had
better resumes than Misowski did. You had Christopher Sanchez, better
resume inarguable, Ranger Suarez better resume inarguable. But those pictures
weren't available either on Tuesday. So MLB approached them and
they were like, hey, Christopher Sanchez, see that you've you
(19:00):
pitched a ton of innings. Your er is really good.
You're next in line. Can you pitch on Tuesday, and
Sanchez is like, actually, no, I can't. I'm gonna be
able to and they're like, all right, well screw it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Then you're not an All Star.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then they went to Ranger Suarez and they're like, hey, Ranger,
you've been pretty good. You got the resume here, certainly
all star caliber. Can you pitch on Tuesday? And Rangers like, no,
I just pitched right before the All Star break. I
can't pitch on Tuesday. And they're like, well, I guess
you're not an All Star either. Then they ended up
with Jacob Mazerowski. Ridiculous process. What I think should have
(19:38):
happened is you have your All Star team and if
anybody needs to be replaced because they can't make it,
they're injured, they can't make the All Star Game. They're
a pitcher, and they just threw on Saturday or Sunday.
And they're like, I'm not turning around on Tuesday and
facing some of the best hitters in the game throwing
(20:01):
gas when that's.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Not my routine.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I don't want to take even a small chance that
I could tweak something that I could get banged up. Hey,
if you say I can't make it, that all you do,
you're on the team. Then you name a replacement and
they're known as just that they are a replacement. That's it, right,
(20:24):
they're crowd fillers. It was like at the Grammys or whatever.
You go and you sit in the seat, but you're
not an All Star. You don't get All Star classification.
If you look at Jacob Mitzerowski, he's like Baseball Reference page.
I love anything that ends in reference, like Pro Football Reference,
Basketball Reference, Baseball Reference.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Go to it all the time.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
If you go to Baseball Reference and look up Jacob Mizerowski,
it says one time All Star. It should not say
that he's a replacement All Star. So Caitlin Clark, she
can't compete in the WNBA All Star Game. Whoever replaces
her should be an alternate, should be just that a replacement.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
They should not get All Star status. They're just filling in.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Am I crazy? Why the leagues make this way more
difficult than they need to. The NFL did this last year.
So Drake may had a pretty good year with the Patriots, right,
he was a Pro Bowl fill in. If you look
at his Pro Football Reference page, one time Pro Bowler,
(21:32):
it's like what he.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Was a fill in.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
He's just a replacement guy. He wasn't one of the
guys that initially made it. What are we doing here?
Like again, if you're looking at this and like Brian,
what's the big deal?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Man? This is not a big deal. It's for the fans.
Who cares.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Some people might have that attitude. And the thing I
would throw out there is it's something that Kyle.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Schwarber talked about.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
He's with the Phillies there, and he talked about his
teammates not being named to the All Star team. And
it's like when we do the reunion thing, when it's
ten years from now or whatever, that's part of your resume.
They read it off. They're like five time All Stars,
so and so that's part of the deal. So it matters.
(22:20):
And so for the Phillies pitchers who were next in line,
for them not to get the nod just because they
were unavailable to pitch on Tuesday is weird. But I
also add that if they're just replacing someone, if they're
just filling in, you shouldn't get All Star status anyway.
It should be here's the team, Here's who the fans
(22:42):
voted for, Here's who the players voted for. Here's the team.
We have X amount of players here it is and
whoever can't make it?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Cool? We got to replace them with these other dudes.
They shouldn't get All Star status. How do you sneak in?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's the ultimate back door cover right there.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You know, it's the late bucket from half court to
cover the spread. It's more than that. You're not an
All Star. But just because someone is hurt or pitches
on Saturday or Sunday before the All Star Game, now
you're an All Star.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's the dumbest thing.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Ever, Why did they make this more complicated than it
needs to be. If you're a replacement, then that's all
the status you get. You're a replacement All Star doesn't
mean you're an All Star. And here's some audio here
to back this up. Because the late great Kobe Bryant,
when he was in his final season in the NBA
(23:40):
and he had the retirement tour. When he's on the road,
they do these grand you know, entrances for him. They
announce him and you know, five time champion, they rattle
off his accomplishments. This was one of them on the
road in Detroit and they rattle off how many All
Star Games, appearances, he had, how many times he was
(24:01):
an All Star?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Checked this out hat sixty six?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Do you want of the twelve pounds in high school?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I think his final plants.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
How did the poet of mom.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
In Hill and it's twenty hit a season seventeen hit
the All Star? Seventeen time All Star right there, and
they rattled off pretty much everything else Gobe did in
his career is way too long, so I just condensed it.
Here's a portion of when he was in Charlotte again,
his final season, grand entrance. They're announcing him. They announced
(24:33):
how many times he was an All Star.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Time and being all shar not time and.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Be a champion.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It was side by side with how many times do
you want to ring? Like this matters. It's part of
your resume. So if you're an All Star, great, If
you need to be replaced, you're just a replacement dude.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You shouldn't get All Star status for that. Why is
this so? Why is it so difficult? Difficult at all?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's very easy, system, very and yet these leagues just complicated.
I don't know why this whole Miserrowski thing. I didn't
think of it at the time. I thought it was
ridiculous at the time that Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez
got bypassed because they were unavailable, and then they went
(25:21):
to Miserowski.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So the more I think about it, none of those
freaking guys should have had All Star status. If they're
just replacements, you're just the alternate man. You're you're the
crowd filler. You're sitting in the seat that needs to
be filled. That that doesn't mean that those are your tickets.
That doesn't mean that those are your seats. You're just
filling in.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
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Speaker 4 (25:47):
I saw this tweet from Adam Schefter. It just simply
says Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is believed to have recovered
from his recent right shoulder setback as the TA prepares
to report for training camp next week. Okay, if Anthony
(26:08):
Richardson does anything in the NFL, not just this year,
but ever, I'll be impressed.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I don't want to write the guy off completely, and
I'm not. I'm just telling you, I'll be impressed because
so far the start has been god awful. It has
been freaking terrible when and we're only two years in,
so there might be some people that say, hey, Brian,
you know he's a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
For a reason.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He does have some ability you never know if it's realized. Well,
all of that is true. I can't dispute that, But
what I would push back on is just how much
ground he has to cover to be a legitimate starting
quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage last year was
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forty seven point seven percent. Okay, he's sub not fifty percent,
he's sub forty eight percent. Okay, he's put up in
two years numbers that in some instances are worse than
Tim Tebow's quarterback numbers in the NFL. Coincidentally, both Florida
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quarterbacks right there with a rich and Tebow. That's not
the company you want to be in. If you're Anthony Richardson,
you did not want to be shoulder to shoulder with
Tim Tebow in the stats department. But that's where he is,
and this is where I would start looking sideways at
the Colts. This is not just an Anthony Richardson thing.
This is a Colts thing. The Colts mismanaged this dude
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so badly. I would compare it to that. I'm all
about comparisons tonight. The Colts, they're like the guy who
bought this high end sports car. This guy went to
the dealership. He is like, I saved my money. I
want a Lamborghini, give me it right now, here's all
the money. And then he got it. It's back at home.
(28:06):
And instead of waiting a little bit, this guy couldn't
help himself. It's raining sideways outside, the wind is going crazy,
it's even hailing a little bit. And this guy who
just bought a Lamborghini is like, I didn't buy it
just to keep it in the garage. We're going out,
We're going for a drive. Right, It's not the time
to do it. Just wait, be patient. And the Colts
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in their situation, they were not patient with Anthony Richardson
at all. Anthony Richardson in college, he threw less than
four hundred passing attempts. He had less than four hundred
passing attempts in college. You compare that to some of
these guys what they did in college. Some of them
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are throwing for over a thousand, over fifteen hundred, sometimes
over two thousand passing attempts in college. Anthony Richardson had
less than four hundred. He had no experience, and the
Colts are like, throw him in, maybe he's ready for
life in the NFL, And shockingly, he was not at all.
(29:17):
They threw him in the deep end and he didn't
know how to swim. I don't know why the Colts.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Would do that. You know something that blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Think about this, Patrick Mahomes, and I could look at
it real fast here, how many will do a guessing game?
How many passing attempts? I don't know off the top
of my head. How many passing attempts do you think
Patrick Mahomes had in college?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He's a Texas tech.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
How many? Okay, got the answer right here? Yeah, this
is really toply fast. I'm getting a little bit better
at this googling thing. So, Patrick Mahomes, he threw one thousand,
three hundred and forty nine passes in college thirteen forty nine.
That's almost a thousand more passes than Anthony Richardson threw
(30:07):
in college.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Okay, and what happened with those two quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Patrick Mahomes sat the entire rookie season, his entire rookie
year in the NFL except for the final game of
the regular season. He started that game. That's it against
Coops Broncos. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He started one game as a rookie. Even with almost
over a thousand more attempts in college than Anthony Richardson.
Anthony Richardson started right away, like Week five or something.
He's starting games in the NFL with no experience, a
lack of passing attempts. That was so dumb for the
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Colts to rush that guy. He needed to sit, he
needed to develop, He did not need to be thrown
into the deep end. That was such a bad approach
by the Colts. And now you've seen what's happened the
first two years. He's been banged up like crazy. That's
not the Colts' fault, but he is a disaster as
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a quarterback. And he's got a bright quarterback mind in
Shane Stikens. Shane Stiken was a former quarterback at a
lower level, but he knows what he's doing. It's a
good play caller, bright offensive mind, knows the quarterback position,
and Steiken's been able to do nothing so far because
they threw him in too early.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And he just wasn't ready to swim.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
And I feel bad for Anthony Richardson to a degree
because I think he would have had a better shot
to at least be in a better position to be
further developed, to not be a train wreck at this
point of his NFL career.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I think the Colts have a lot to do with that.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I don't think A. Rich has crushed it by any means,
but I think the Colts have been bad for him, bad, bad, bad,
terrible approach
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