November 22, 2022 • 29 mins
Mike Harmon and Chris Plank, in for Jason, examine the coming head coaching carousel in the NFL. The guys look at situations for teams like the Broncos and Chargers and discuss how Sean Payton could fit into a certain franchise's future plans. Plus, one NFL star has no interest in paying big money for a haircut!
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listening to Fox Sports Radio. There's no Smith, big voice guy,
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Holiday Monday, Jason on vacation, out and about on Mike
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at Plank Show. You find him on Twitter, evangelizing wisely
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about the world of sports and then handling everybody's doing
duty I think community service three hours a week on
Fox Sports Radio, trying to tamp down the grand and
exaggerated states of Arnie Spaniard. He's christ full time job
and I only do it on the weekend, so lucky me.
Feel bad for Beth. But yeah, what a night that
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I thought we would have. Monday Night football ended up
in a blowout. Yeah, I've got a coach fired yet.
Um college football playoff rankings coming up now on the
East Coast in Central time zone later on tonight. See
if there's any big shifts. Were Uh, We're in my
favorite week of the year, Mike, but also my least
favorite week of the year. I love because I love
Thanksgiving and all the football. I hate it because it's
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final week of the college football regular season. So hopefully
we'll continue to learn a lot about what the postseason
is gonna look like in both the college and NFL
ranks this week. Yeah, at the risk of being cliche,
Holiday week Radio, do you help cook any of the
Thanksgiving fair? Do you just get the hell out of
the way. Oh, I'm not allowed, No, because a I'm
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a I'm a habitual line stepper when it comes to
how many things I try to eat um or or
how much I try I try to drink. So I
am just I am not allowed either in nor near
a kitchen when any cooking is going on. I'm I'm
in charge of kids, dogs, and that's about my responsibilities
until we eat. It's it's a very very it's a
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heavy crown my harm. And whenever you are not trusted
in the kitchen, so you go on dad duty. Well,
what if you had to juggle both. I pretty much do.
To be honest with you, right, I try to, But
like I said, once I get in there and I
suddenly start to try to be mr uh, Oh gosh,
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what's up? Who's the mayor of Flavor Town? Why did
I just Raiders fan? I'm not on that front. But listen,
I can uh make a mean hamburger. That's really a
big thing on Thanksgiving. I would tell you this if
you haven't seen it. It was a very short lived
show that I've been trying to lobby through our buddy
Jay Glazer, who's good friends with Guy Fiertti, to get
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to come back where he did Tailgating. Yes, and the
episode he did with ken Stable The Deer Departed was
one of my favorites. Oh, it's fantastic. If you can
find it. They replay it on occasion. Certainly you can
find it in the YouTube world. But he would go
to Tailgates. I obviously have to orchestrate to find the
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good ones whatever and its reputation and and then building
from there. But he would have a bunch of legends
stopped by it each stop. And when he was up
in Oakland, he ed I'm trying to do that myself.
I want to get it back because I I I
kind of fastioned myself a little bit of a gourmet.
I was just telling the guys that on Friday, my
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my day is gonna be watching football, watching food ball,
and creating the first batch of this year's glug Glug Glug.
It's a tradition in the Nordic countries, um in Minnesota
as well, because they've they've adopted it g l O
with the um lot double g Uh. It's mould wine,
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brandy and spices and you let it steep and then
it's oh so good, especially on a wintry night. I'll
have to make sure to get an extra large bottle
sent your way tie shirt. Have you had this before?
Am I the am I late to the party? On
glog glog late? This is a time honored Harmon tradition.
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I'm not really shipped it. I don't know what the
laws are on that. I hate the breakage potential of
the cool bottles that I put the stuff in. But oftentimes,
you know, it's the hey, when's glug getting made? This year?
It's more of that than Hey, you want to hang
out and get a beer it's like, hey, when are
you bringing me a bottle of clothes cinnamon ginger. Yeah,
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I've got I've got x x is mother's recipe. So okay,
opened up a whole Pandora's box. Here Mike Harmen in
the kitchen here on Fox. I'm a culinary wizard, damn it,
I am not. I was debating doing you know, my
own videos and stuff. You should put them on your
Instagram feed. Yeah. Now it's the motivation quote and then
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the Mike Karmen video between Instagram and then my TikTok dancing.
It'll be a whole new thing, especially once I get
that sparkly cape back. That's right, you'll be a cold hero.
And when you can bedazzle your hat. So what is
like the alcohol content? It's nice and really oh yeah yeah,
because the base batch if you just started and you
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follow a recipe, I mean you're in for a bottle
of pretty good red wine plus um, either a cup
or two a brandy. Well, look at you. I'm intrigued
now at a minimum. And then I've got recipes where
I tinker with it, where we add other types of alcohol,
and you need to have your own tailgate show and
go make lug for people. I think we're gonna have
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to do that and bring that out to the good people.
Nick Ty shirts on board. He's a big time content creator.
You can also be our resident DJ two. He's a
he's a wizard. We can make a pr guy, nutritionists, warrior,
you name it. He's got no he he keeps me
in between the lines. It's one of the things I
appreciate that consists. And see the continuity that we've had
on this show and his input to not only my
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professional life here, but also you know, the friendship that
we've we've lean look at you and grown and I
got my guy birth here too, So I got my
squad at Steve to Seger and now you joined the party.
I mean, we get we're just building out a friends
giving here on air. I like the way this is going. Unfortunately,
I don't have food in front of me, so I'm
getting cranky. I don't have a coach that's been fired
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yet tonight, so I know you're you're you're really calling
for the out string somebody. We need to get into
the psychology of that. But that's a couch and and
that's a hundred hour fee for the Hour's problem. It's
an ownership problem and how they can't figure out they
need to fire their damn coach or GM. Wow, I'm
fine with you. Be miserable. Be miserable right now, Arizona.
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Bring your level of suck to the highest degree possible.
Don't bother me. Keep on keeping on with this level
of bad play like we saw to hold on like
from the Broncos ownership side of things. Now, clearly they're
not hurting for money, right, You're talking about you know,
I think the richend donors in the NFL. Yeah, we're
talking about a lot of cash. They spent four point
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six billions, so it's not a dollar thing. That's always
the question when it comes to the Raiders and whether
they make a decision is the dollars and cents, which, again,
that's not a true statement. Mark Davis isn't cash poor.
I don't know where this keeps coming up from, but
it's ridiculous and it's been debunked consistently by all the
guys on the Raiders beat. So again, and by trusting
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the guys on the Raiders beat necessarily for some of
that stuff. Yeah, I'm taking it all with a grain
of salt. I just have to if you're a guy
that's reporting and you're you're with the squad, wait wait, wait, wait, No,
these are guys that working like the athletic Mike, These
are dudes that cover the team from that perspective. They
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don't go out and set and and for the Las
Vegas Review Journal, I mean, for the purposes of this conversation,
I will not and I will say, yes, you're right, Chris. No,
nobody gets stuff from inside a building to debunk stories
that ever, Yeah, and these guys are getting the true
story that are looking for a few clicks here there
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that we're a general manager like four years ago. But
let's go with that on it. No, well, no, I'm
just just throwing it out there when whenever we get
to it. And he's also he's also in Vegas. Now,
who's that Mark Davis? So the flow of money is
different than it was four or five years ago. I
think we could stipulate to that. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
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weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. And in
the end, I don't know what guys are liquidity or not.
I'm sure they could find said money if they're willing
to do it. I also don't know in year one
that I want to and I don't know those gentlemen.
And I'm not trying to impugne those I'm talking in general,
general terms, and they may be spot on with dollars
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down to the penny of what in accounts and what's
ready to be paid out if need be. Just oftentimes
in our our world, they're like, this guy is worth this,
but you don't know what the debt ratio is, you
don't know what those those commitments are. On the other side,
in terms of saying, Okay, I need to now give
a guy a big check. I don't necessarily have that
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money now, but I can get it to you here
there whenever. When your payments come due, i e. Whence
you get your part of the giant TV revenue, then yeah,
everything becomes flush in most circumstances. But at the core
of this, you were making the point about the Broncos.
They don't have cash problems, so I'm not worried about pain.
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But but but that's but that's the point buying out
a contract for them if they were so convinced that
they needed to do it right now, that's not the consideration.
Part of it might be we just got this team,
we're going to go through a year, and then we're
really going to get into the note nuts and bolts
of this business and figure it out. Then why did
they give Russell Wilson that contract? Because they weren vinced
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he's the guy? Right, Russell Wilson name recognition, still a star,
still a highly coveted entity, instead of let's go with
the draft picks, let's go with the the unknowns, and
just said, all right, And I think Tom Brady screwed
it all up by playing as long as he has,
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so as long as a guy hasn't been broken in half.
Somehow we're convinced that he's still gonna play at fort
Is Aaron Rodgers the same guy he was even last year,
not even from the Hey, you might have broken his
will and maybe his heart's not into it. I thought
I saw a guy that basically threw up a white
flag with some of the play calling in lack of
urgency a week ago on that Thursday night game against Tennessee.
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At least my my observations there But the larger point
is with Russell Wilson. I think there's a lot of
folks are business and in management, et cetera, that are
convinced that he still had plenty of good years left.
And if you can get that right, then everything builds
around it. You in that group, you're not. No. I
had them in last place for the season. I thought
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they'd be worse than your Raiders. That's whether or not
um well, But I mean they're they're there. I mean
they're they're right there with you. Is the point. They're
not competitive. That's what I don't get about this with
Denver right and and I don't know if I ever will.
I don't think anyone would question, you know, to go
out and get Russell Wilson, not at all. You didn't
have to give him that contract. You didn't have to,
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you know, you you traded for him, You gave up
a lot of assets and void because I'm with you,
like you think it takes some time to fill this
out and see what happens. And they like George Patton
whenever they came in to keep him as the GM,
but literally the first thing they did as an active
ownership is give him a five year what two hundred
fifty million dollar contract, so um their stock right and
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if he's going in in sub marine Nathaniel Hackett, which
we saw Nathaniel Hackett as we played the audio earlier
throw him right under a bus. I don't know how
you could think that this would end up working outside
of a belief that, hey, we've been in one score games,
we've been right there, and in the end we'll be
able to push our way through this because we believe
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in rust and we believe in Nathaniel Hackett. Maybe that
public score right now is a little bit over the
top and a little bit too much, But I'll tell
you what, UM for a group of owners that have
a lot of money, they haven't been they haven't been
afraid to throw it around. Might not be the smartest
move they've ever made, but if they feel like they
can be better without Nathaniel Hackett, I don't think Denver
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is a team that would go into tank mode because
they don't have any picks to be able to do that. Yeah,
it's it's the curiosity as you go through from the
decision makers beneath ownership as to what this year becomes
at this point right in week to week. Is this
lost that much more egregious than any of the others.
Your offense has been stuck in mud and he divested
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himself a play calling did hack it this week? To Kubiak? Yep,
there's does that thinking that was gonna suddenly absolve you
of anything is silly? And we talked about it a
little bit, uh going into the weekend. Talked about it
a little bit with Bucky Brooks on Fox Football Sunday. Yeah,
Nick Sirianni did it last year, but it's a much
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different circumstance and that you had a young quarterback that
a lot of people were still if he on. So
having someone who's working with him exclusively versus what a
head coach needs to do makes perfect sense in this
case as a play caller. In theory, with the thirty
four thirty five year old Russell Wilson, proper collaboration, you
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should still have ample time to do whatever else you
need to do as a head coach. And clearly your
defense has been running efficiently to where I'm not I'm
not convinced, and I don't think you can sell me
unless there's a bunch of videotape to prove otherwise that
he's needed to sit in those meetings a lot, right,
I mean just from a time spent, time management and
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whatever where we talk about the responsibilities of a head coach.
I think in Denver you've got one side of the
ball that was pretty much dialed in. So if all
of your time was being spent on the offensive side
of how do we fix this? And then in week
ten going into week eleven, you're still giving up play
calling duties. You've kind of raised another huge flag as
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to your aptitude for this job, because I know we're
up against it. But is there in your opinion, like
we think about some of the guys in the NFL
on the hot seat right obviously Nathaniel Hackett and the
sales pitch to hey, you'll have Russell Wilson as your
quarterback for a few years, is that worth it? I
don't think there's any hot seat issues in Green Bay.
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I mean, we'll see that. Not really a knee jerky
franchise too terribly often. Mark Davis gave his vote to
support anyway. May maybe it could be one and done
for Dennis Allen. We'll see, But is there the guy
that will spend an off season with all these teams
going after and that guy is definitely Sean Page. Does
he become a guy in all of these coaching surges.
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I think he. I think he has been all along.
I had him photoshopped into a Charger's hat and shirt
a long time ago. That would be good just from
an offensive personnel firepower. Tan in l A. You've got
Justin Herbert. You know, you've got a quarterback who at
a minimum is a second tier guy with the talent
to maybe take him into that top tier, assuming your
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wide receivers are healthy and you can push forward. Yeah,
I didn't even thought about the child said the San
Diego charges. I haven't thought about the Chargers charges to
me one. I mean, I like, but I mean, look,
this is goes to actually this philosophical thing, this requires
a little more time. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific. Who wants who and
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what out at what time? That's what we're talking about,
coaching decisions, coaching changes, real imagined. It's good for sports
talk radio hot take nonsense, and I'm ready to dive
into a little of it. Here, jameson Spit Show with Me,
Mike Armen, Jason Smith off tonight, Chris Plank in his
stead at Plank Show, where you find him on Twitter.
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So far, so good. We've only had a couple of
little dust ups, not quite an Arnie Span your all.
I've had fun tonight. This is a unique situation for me.
I'm not used to not driving. It's been very weird
for me to not have to worry about sponsor reads
or getting it out of breaks or worrying about countdowns.
It's been it's been kind of nice. No, I know
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you're used to having that wide birth and kind of
dancing around now trying to rain you in in my world,
in my way. Uh yeah, and you know we're talking
about a little bit. But well, I know. And that's
the beauty of sports talk radio, especially if you're not
sitting next to me where I can just smack you
upside the head. Not that I encourage that or engage
in that violence, but theoretically, just the the side eye
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rock eyebrow rays could have an effect. That's right, if
I would cower in fear and give into all of
your sports hot take kneed. If that were the case,
all right with that in in in tow a guy
that came into the year with questions based on math
and fourth down calls and everything else. Brandon Staley of
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your Los Angeles Chargers tough loss as Patrick Mahomes once
again showing that he's a magician, maybe even in the
Harry Potter ilk where he may be more supreme than
Dumbledore or anybody else. You want to raise up along
the way as the Chiefs moved eight and to remember
when it wasn't gonna work because Tyreek Hill wasn't there. Yeah,
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get out of here. As for the Chargers five and
five now, uh negative thirty one point differential, bevy of injuries,
not that every team doesn't have them. You're looking up
and you're trying to figure out out of the scorecard
who your wide receivers are. There with the Las Vegas Raiders,
we look at Bears and all they've done, talking about
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my team's green bay and the bevy of injuries for them.
For the Chargers, Williams was out Keenan Allen missed a
ton of time, talk about meet guys on the defense,
missing time, et cetera. I did here during the broadcast
of Sunday Night Football, the waxing poetically of why we
don't give Derwin James more love because Derwin James isn't
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on the field a ton in years past. He got
plenty of love when he was on the field for
what he does to a game. Stay healthy, six team game,
and everybody will love you, and you will be elevated
to the level of greatness that I think we all
agree on. But what the question becomes is do you
have the staff in place to harness justin Herbert the
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offense does the decision making of Brandon Stanley mostly last year,
but certainly even this year, and a couple of instances
where you raise your hand and say, well what about this?
What about that? Particularly as you get into US series
and third fourth down calls that oftentime when you're saying,
all right, we're gonna change, I need a new coach
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becomes all right, well who's the new coach? Like? What
what is out there that you want to go get?
And I don't mean as an interim guy on your
staff that maybe you decide after a six game audition
is good enough to stay another year? Right Like what
they did in Houston. They decided to elevate Lovey Smith
and he's there and well, they're terrible this year, which
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means he's probably gonna be gone as they decide who
the next coaches. And this week they're trying to decide
who their quarterback is. Davis Mills might finally see the Pine.
Too bad. I thought the guy had some promise coming
into the year, but that offense has been an abject failure.
The fact that they stripped Brandon Cooks of the Captain
Sea after he pouted about not getting traded his whole
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love thing. You signed with Houston? What did you expect? Um?
But here in Los Angeles it's the well what do
you do? McVeigh had whispered in in the off season. Uh,
there were whispers about him going into the broadcast booth.
He did a long podcast with Jay glazer our I
on Unbreakable, the mental health podcast, talking about having to
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change up what he was doing on a day to
day basis, and you know his is then fiance, Uh,
you know, trying to fight him to find some life
balance and things of that nature. You have Sean Payton
who's literally on the couch with Colin at least once
a week that I'm aware of here in southern California.
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So even if you like Brandon Staley, Sean Payton is
sitting there waiting for his next opportunity, now long coveted
by Jerry Jones and Dallas. But Jerry has a guy
that's winning in Mike McCarthy. We all know his affinity
for Kellen Moore, So maybe maybe that's not an obvious, uh,
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plug and play scenario there. And you go around the league,
we always see six to eight coaches fired. We already
know either Jeff Saturdays is going to be the new
coach after whatever they hoops, they would need to go
through to name him the full time coach. But you
have Indian apples I already talked about Houston, and go
down the line where we're gonna have a number of
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other jobs suddenly come open, maybe the ones we've been
talking about tonight in Arizona and Denver. That for Sean Payton,
you're you're also looking, all right, I'm gonna be the top,
top guy. So what's the best scenario for me to
go in and try to recapture some of that glory
that I had at the Heights in New Orleans. And
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you've got a quarterback that you can look at and say, yeah,
I think I could probably tweak things and take this
guy another level, Whereas in a lot of these other spots,
do you want to start from scratch with the QB?
Maybe you do, but not often do you get a tear,
turnkey potential opportunity. And while I may like Brandon Staleley,
I think he's a good coach overall, I got the
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opportunity to go Sean, get Sean Payton. It's one of
those rare instances where I'd say the best, You've got
a better option out in the market place I want,
or what the bidding war becomes for Sean Payton. I
really do, because you know earlier when we got Jason
Lacking for on and if you missed that, it will
be on the podcast as soon as we wrap up.
He was trail one. Um. But what if things continue
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to stumble in Buffalo? What if they don't get things right? Sure,
I mean that's not gonna be I'm not trying to
advocate for Sean McDermott's firing. How there there's seven and
three right now, and I still think they're going to
Super Bowl. They didn't have to move and then they
go and beat Cleveland, and I can argue about what
Cleveland was and is supposed to be and what they
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will be, because there's another one of those scenarios. If
Deshaun Watson can play. He hadn't played in two years,
but everybody's convinced he's suddenly going to show up and
be a wizard. Um that that they win a couple
of games down the stretch, and you know that wind
looks better. But to your point, they did snap the skid,
but red zone efficiency certainly under fire, right, But I
guess my point is if if Buffalo struggles, they'd be
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in the mix for Sean Payton. Cleveland will have the
Shawn Watson next year. And listen, I'm not here to
say that all is going to be forgotten, but after
a couple of touchdown passes, everyone seems to forget someone's
passed and seas Yeah, so maybe Cleveland becomes a place
that would be interested. I love the idea about the Chargers.
I think even if Dallas comes up short for Jerry Jones,
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I think he would probably do whatever it took. You.
You're right here, Sean Payton is the apple of his
eye and maybe there's a return to New Orleans in
the works, or maybe Arizona says, what will it take?
We need to get someone in here to work with
with Kyler and make this happen. I mean, I think
you could see a pretty wild bidding war for Sean
Payton this offseason. So I wonder how beneficial it would
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be if you're one of those squads and wants to
be in the mixed forum. Allow the Chargers to try
to get involved in that process early. You know, I'm
not saying fire Brandon Staley tomorrow, but Mike, there's gonna
be a lot of teams if things go south for
a couple of contenders or they don't make the super Bowl.
And you're right, Sean Payton's already given out feelers. I'm
missing it. He's always seemingly doing something on TV. And
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it's good because I like listening to him, very good
at it. So I just I think it's gonna be
wild to see how quickly someone tries to make a
move for what I think is that the true catch
of this offseason coaching search. And you talk about teams
that will have high draft choice to look at Carolina
where they're at at three and eight. You've got yeah,
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I mean, you've got money to spend and you'll get
to pick your quarterback. I wonder, though, did you move
past all of this mess, even though Matt Corroll never
saw a meaningful snap before he got hurt. But yeah, Jnison,
the Donald Mayfield experiment. There were questions about Corral before
he came out. But they'll they'll draft the quarterback. Um,
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would you want if you have the opportunity to choose
your quarterback, to wait till next year, to wait till
Caleb Williams is out there? I mean, listen, I'm not
just I'm saying I shouldn't be saying this as a
jilted Sooner fan, right, But if I'm any coach that
is desired and they're like, hey, pick your quarterback. If
you're not gonna get Josh Allen, if you're not gonna
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get Justin Herbert and those fall through, I might wait
here to see who's in position to get Caleb Williams.
Because Mike I think he's got the potential to be
Mahomes esque early in his career. He's really really special.
So it'll be very interesting to see how Sean Payton's
role May maybe even interest shakes out over the next
couple of months. Who's he talking about? Who does the
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bus start to build for? And if this is a
one season kind of step away and he's back in
the game next year, he'll be wanted well. And then
you you point out, you know, guys going another year
down the road. I know there was a lot of
hype starting to build for Drake May before the lost
another great name. Yeah, so you know you've got two
guys a couple of years down the road. That makes sense.
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But if you've got a chance where you're looking at it,
Josh Allen, you're looking at it justin Herbert, You've got
guys that you know, minor tweaking get you the job done,
perhaps to to get you to that next level. And
I had heard the thing of the return to New
Orleans right with Dennis Allen. It's it's been a failure. Uh,
Jamis Winston any chance he gets his telling people how
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healthy is and how he's ready to play. So I'd
love to hear behind the scenes on actually is going
on in that building. Those are the report I need
the film though, like any I I get the game tape.
You mean you've got Andy Dalton running there and you're
still trotting that out and that that's really all I
can say about that, because beating the Rams ain't convincing
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me anything's good, uh coming out of there thus far.
So the fact that Jamis isn't getting onto the field
of the practice film must just absolutely be atrocious, got terrible,
gotta be so bad and it's a mess man right now.
The fact that Landry and Thomas were never available, but
it's a while. He has been fantastic, but it's wild
to think they're only half game out of first place though,
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are a game and half out of first place right now?
That that NFC set out, I didn't have them being
a disaster this year, but but welcome to the NFC
South Well. But it's also the beauty or horror of
the season, right I quote Tom Brady with some regularity
going back about a month and people asked about parody.
He goes, I see a lot of bad football. I
don't know about you, Chris, watching a lot of these games.
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It ain't pretty. You could try to file it under
quote good defensive football, but I think you're just lying
to yourself. I think we've had uh, probably count on
one hand the amount of really really well played football
games from start to finish this year in the NFL.
It's it's it's not pretty right, And I when Tom
Brady said that, I agreed hundred percent, and I I
(27:39):
still believe it to this day. It's not getting better,
it's getting worse. Yeah. I mean, it's great for business
if everybody's five hundred because those standing based like the
second wild card and baseball fans stay interested that might
not have in September's otherwise same thing here going towards
the end of November. Some of these teams still mathematically alive.
And if the schedule, God hand you a gift, maybe
(28:02):
in a big injury ahead of your game or something else,
maybe the door opens up for you to to back
into a wild card berth. And once you're in, now
you're playing with house money. Anything that they got in
that special Henry Winkler playbook like out of the water Boy.
Suddenly it comes out there and coach Klein, who was
on the sidelines, meeting his buddy Patrick Mahomes for the
(28:23):
first time. Patrick Mahomes said he met his idols Arnie
what a water boy was last night it was. You
gotta tell me he's just playing dumb there. I have
no idea. I don't know if it's all an act
or not. Whatever it is, his only wrestling references give
me a snap into a slim gym and the only
movie reference usually is something from like the nineteen forties,
(28:44):
So I don't know if it's all a bit, but
he had no idea who coach Klein was last? Alright,
time to get basket uh in kind, Arnie span your
here's movie lists and DVDs and a Netflix subscription, or
just turner classic movies to get a morn into those
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Feel bad for Beth. But yeah, what a night that
(01:07):
I thought we would have. Monday Night football ended up
in a blowout. Yeah, I've got a coach fired yet.
Um college football playoff rankings coming up now on the
East Coast in Central time zone later on tonight. See
if there's any big shifts. Were Uh, We're in my
favorite week of the year, Mike, but also my least
favorite week of the year. I love because I love
Thanksgiving and all the football. I hate it because it's
(01:29):
final week of the college football regular season. So hopefully
we'll continue to learn a lot about what the postseason
is gonna look like in both the college and NFL
ranks this week. Yeah, at the risk of being cliche,
Holiday week Radio, do you help cook any of the
Thanksgiving fair? Do you just get the hell out of
the way. Oh, I'm not allowed, No, because a I'm
(01:49):
a I'm a habitual line stepper when it comes to
how many things I try to eat um or or
how much I try I try to drink. So I
am just I am not allowed either in nor near
a kitchen when any cooking is going on. I'm I'm
in charge of kids, dogs, and that's about my responsibilities
until we eat. It's it's a very very it's a
(02:12):
heavy crown my harm. And whenever you are not trusted
in the kitchen, so you go on dad duty. Well,
what if you had to juggle both. I pretty much do.
To be honest with you, right, I try to, But
like I said, once I get in there and I
suddenly start to try to be mr uh, Oh gosh,
(02:33):
what's up? Who's the mayor of Flavor Town? Why did
I just Raiders fan? I'm not on that front. But listen,
I can uh make a mean hamburger. That's really a
big thing on Thanksgiving. I would tell you this if
you haven't seen it. It was a very short lived
show that I've been trying to lobby through our buddy
Jay Glazer, who's good friends with Guy Fiertti, to get
(02:54):
to come back where he did Tailgating. Yes, and the
episode he did with ken Stable The Deer Departed was
one of my favorites. Oh, it's fantastic. If you can
find it. They replay it on occasion. Certainly you can
find it in the YouTube world. But he would go
to Tailgates. I obviously have to orchestrate to find the
(03:16):
good ones whatever and its reputation and and then building
from there. But he would have a bunch of legends
stopped by it each stop. And when he was up
in Oakland, he ed I'm trying to do that myself.
I want to get it back because I I I
kind of fastioned myself a little bit of a gourmet.
I was just telling the guys that on Friday, my
(03:36):
my day is gonna be watching football, watching food ball,
and creating the first batch of this year's glug Glug Glug.
It's a tradition in the Nordic countries, um in Minnesota
as well, because they've they've adopted it g l O
with the um lot double g Uh. It's mould wine,
(03:56):
brandy and spices and you let it steep and then
it's oh so good, especially on a wintry night. I'll
have to make sure to get an extra large bottle
sent your way tie shirt. Have you had this before?
Am I the am I late to the party? On
glog glog late? This is a time honored Harmon tradition.
(04:16):
I'm not really shipped it. I don't know what the
laws are on that. I hate the breakage potential of
the cool bottles that I put the stuff in. But oftentimes,
you know, it's the hey, when's glug getting made? This year?
It's more of that than Hey, you want to hang
out and get a beer it's like, hey, when are
you bringing me a bottle of clothes cinnamon ginger. Yeah,
(04:39):
I've got I've got x x is mother's recipe. So okay,
opened up a whole Pandora's box. Here Mike Harmen in
the kitchen here on Fox. I'm a culinary wizard, damn it,
I am not. I was debating doing you know, my
own videos and stuff. You should put them on your
Instagram feed. Yeah. Now it's the motivation quote and then
(05:00):
the Mike Karmen video between Instagram and then my TikTok dancing.
It'll be a whole new thing, especially once I get
that sparkly cape back. That's right, you'll be a cold hero.
And when you can bedazzle your hat. So what is
like the alcohol content? It's nice and really oh yeah yeah,
because the base batch if you just started and you
(05:20):
follow a recipe, I mean you're in for a bottle
of pretty good red wine plus um, either a cup
or two a brandy. Well, look at you. I'm intrigued
now at a minimum. And then I've got recipes where
I tinker with it, where we add other types of alcohol,
and you need to have your own tailgate show and
go make lug for people. I think we're gonna have
(05:42):
to do that and bring that out to the good people.
Nick Ty shirts on board. He's a big time content creator.
You can also be our resident DJ two. He's a
he's a wizard. We can make a pr guy, nutritionists, warrior,
you name it. He's got no he he keeps me
in between the lines. It's one of the things I
appreciate that consists. And see the continuity that we've had
on this show and his input to not only my
(06:05):
professional life here, but also you know, the friendship that
we've we've lean look at you and grown and I
got my guy birth here too, So I got my
squad at Steve to Seger and now you joined the party.
I mean, we get we're just building out a friends
giving here on air. I like the way this is going. Unfortunately,
I don't have food in front of me, so I'm
getting cranky. I don't have a coach that's been fired
(06:27):
yet tonight, so I know you're you're you're really calling
for the out string somebody. We need to get into
the psychology of that. But that's a couch and and
that's a hundred hour fee for the Hour's problem. It's
an ownership problem and how they can't figure out they
need to fire their damn coach or GM. Wow, I'm
fine with you. Be miserable. Be miserable right now, Arizona.
(06:48):
Bring your level of suck to the highest degree possible.
Don't bother me. Keep on keeping on with this level
of bad play like we saw to hold on like
from the Broncos ownership side of things. Now, clearly they're
not hurting for money, right, You're talking about you know,
I think the richend donors in the NFL. Yeah, we're
talking about a lot of cash. They spent four point
(07:10):
six billions, so it's not a dollar thing. That's always
the question when it comes to the Raiders and whether
they make a decision is the dollars and cents, which, again,
that's not a true statement. Mark Davis isn't cash poor.
I don't know where this keeps coming up from, but
it's ridiculous and it's been debunked consistently by all the
guys on the Raiders beat. So again, and by trusting
(07:30):
the guys on the Raiders beat necessarily for some of
that stuff. Yeah, I'm taking it all with a grain
of salt. I just have to if you're a guy
that's reporting and you're you're with the squad, wait wait, wait, wait, No,
these are guys that working like the athletic Mike, These
are dudes that cover the team from that perspective. They
(07:52):
don't go out and set and and for the Las
Vegas Review Journal, I mean, for the purposes of this conversation,
I will not and I will say, yes, you're right, Chris. No,
nobody gets stuff from inside a building to debunk stories
that ever, Yeah, and these guys are getting the true
story that are looking for a few clicks here there
(08:13):
that we're a general manager like four years ago. But
let's go with that on it. No, well, no, I'm
just just throwing it out there when whenever we get
to it. And he's also he's also in Vegas. Now,
who's that Mark Davis? So the flow of money is
different than it was four or five years ago. I
think we could stipulate to that. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
(08:35):
weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. And in
the end, I don't know what guys are liquidity or not.
I'm sure they could find said money if they're willing
to do it. I also don't know in year one
that I want to and I don't know those gentlemen.
And I'm not trying to impugne those I'm talking in general,
general terms, and they may be spot on with dollars
(08:58):
down to the penny of what in accounts and what's
ready to be paid out if need be. Just oftentimes
in our our world, they're like, this guy is worth this,
but you don't know what the debt ratio is, you
don't know what those those commitments are. On the other side,
in terms of saying, Okay, I need to now give
a guy a big check. I don't necessarily have that
(09:18):
money now, but I can get it to you here
there whenever. When your payments come due, i e. Whence
you get your part of the giant TV revenue, then yeah,
everything becomes flush in most circumstances. But at the core
of this, you were making the point about the Broncos.
They don't have cash problems, so I'm not worried about pain.
(09:39):
But but but that's but that's the point buying out
a contract for them if they were so convinced that
they needed to do it right now, that's not the consideration.
Part of it might be we just got this team,
we're going to go through a year, and then we're
really going to get into the note nuts and bolts
of this business and figure it out. Then why did
they give Russell Wilson that contract? Because they weren vinced
(10:00):
he's the guy? Right, Russell Wilson name recognition, still a star,
still a highly coveted entity, instead of let's go with
the draft picks, let's go with the the unknowns, and
just said, all right, And I think Tom Brady screwed
it all up by playing as long as he has,
(10:21):
so as long as a guy hasn't been broken in half.
Somehow we're convinced that he's still gonna play at fort
Is Aaron Rodgers the same guy he was even last year,
not even from the Hey, you might have broken his
will and maybe his heart's not into it. I thought
I saw a guy that basically threw up a white
flag with some of the play calling in lack of
urgency a week ago on that Thursday night game against Tennessee.
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At least my my observations there But the larger point
is with Russell Wilson. I think there's a lot of
folks are business and in management, et cetera, that are
convinced that he still had plenty of good years left.
And if you can get that right, then everything builds
around it. You in that group, you're not. No. I
had them in last place for the season. I thought
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they'd be worse than your Raiders. That's whether or not
um well, But I mean they're they're there. I mean
they're they're right there with you. Is the point. They're
not competitive. That's what I don't get about this with
Denver right and and I don't know if I ever will.
I don't think anyone would question, you know, to go
out and get Russell Wilson, not at all. You didn't
have to give him that contract. You didn't have to,
(11:27):
you know, you you traded for him, You gave up
a lot of assets and void because I'm with you,
like you think it takes some time to fill this
out and see what happens. And they like George Patton
whenever they came in to keep him as the GM,
but literally the first thing they did as an active
ownership is give him a five year what two hundred
fifty million dollar contract, so um their stock right and
(11:51):
if he's going in in sub marine Nathaniel Hackett, which
we saw Nathaniel Hackett as we played the audio earlier
throw him right under a bus. I don't know how
you could think that this would end up working outside
of a belief that, hey, we've been in one score games,
we've been right there, and in the end we'll be
able to push our way through this because we believe
(12:12):
in rust and we believe in Nathaniel Hackett. Maybe that
public score right now is a little bit over the
top and a little bit too much, But I'll tell
you what, UM for a group of owners that have
a lot of money, they haven't been they haven't been
afraid to throw it around. Might not be the smartest
move they've ever made, but if they feel like they
can be better without Nathaniel Hackett, I don't think Denver
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is a team that would go into tank mode because
they don't have any picks to be able to do that. Yeah,
it's it's the curiosity as you go through from the
decision makers beneath ownership as to what this year becomes
at this point right in week to week. Is this
lost that much more egregious than any of the others.
Your offense has been stuck in mud and he divested
(12:55):
himself a play calling did hack it this week? To Kubiak? Yep,
there's does that thinking that was gonna suddenly absolve you
of anything is silly? And we talked about it a
little bit, uh going into the weekend. Talked about it
a little bit with Bucky Brooks on Fox Football Sunday. Yeah,
Nick Sirianni did it last year, but it's a much
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different circumstance and that you had a young quarterback that
a lot of people were still if he on. So
having someone who's working with him exclusively versus what a
head coach needs to do makes perfect sense in this
case as a play caller. In theory, with the thirty
four thirty five year old Russell Wilson, proper collaboration, you
(13:37):
should still have ample time to do whatever else you
need to do as a head coach. And clearly your
defense has been running efficiently to where I'm not I'm
not convinced, and I don't think you can sell me
unless there's a bunch of videotape to prove otherwise that
he's needed to sit in those meetings a lot, right,
I mean just from a time spent, time management and
(13:59):
whatever where we talk about the responsibilities of a head coach.
I think in Denver you've got one side of the
ball that was pretty much dialed in. So if all
of your time was being spent on the offensive side
of how do we fix this? And then in week
ten going into week eleven, you're still giving up play
calling duties. You've kind of raised another huge flag as
(14:19):
to your aptitude for this job, because I know we're
up against it. But is there in your opinion, like
we think about some of the guys in the NFL
on the hot seat right obviously Nathaniel Hackett and the
sales pitch to hey, you'll have Russell Wilson as your
quarterback for a few years, is that worth it? I
don't think there's any hot seat issues in Green Bay.
(14:39):
I mean, we'll see that. Not really a knee jerky
franchise too terribly often. Mark Davis gave his vote to
support anyway. May maybe it could be one and done
for Dennis Allen. We'll see, But is there the guy
that will spend an off season with all these teams
going after and that guy is definitely Sean Page. Does
he become a guy in all of these coaching surges.
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I think he. I think he has been all along.
I had him photoshopped into a Charger's hat and shirt
a long time ago. That would be good just from
an offensive personnel firepower. Tan in l A. You've got
Justin Herbert. You know, you've got a quarterback who at
a minimum is a second tier guy with the talent
to maybe take him into that top tier, assuming your
(15:24):
wide receivers are healthy and you can push forward. Yeah,
I didn't even thought about the child said the San
Diego charges. I haven't thought about the Chargers charges to
me one. I mean, I like, but I mean, look,
this is goes to actually this philosophical thing, this requires
a little more time. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific. Who wants who and
(15:47):
what out at what time? That's what we're talking about,
coaching decisions, coaching changes, real imagined. It's good for sports
talk radio hot take nonsense, and I'm ready to dive
into a little of it. Here, jameson Spit Show with Me,
Mike Armen, Jason Smith off tonight, Chris Plank in his
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(16:07):
So far, so good. We've only had a couple of
little dust ups, not quite an Arnie Span your all.
I've had fun tonight. This is a unique situation for me.
I'm not used to not driving. It's been very weird
for me to not have to worry about sponsor reads
or getting it out of breaks or worrying about countdowns.
It's been it's been kind of nice. No, I know
(16:28):
you're used to having that wide birth and kind of
dancing around now trying to rain you in in my world,
in my way. Uh yeah, and you know we're talking
about a little bit. But well, I know. And that's
the beauty of sports talk radio, especially if you're not
sitting next to me where I can just smack you
upside the head. Not that I encourage that or engage
in that violence, but theoretically, just the the side eye
(16:50):
rock eyebrow rays could have an effect. That's right, if
I would cower in fear and give into all of
your sports hot take kneed. If that were the case,
all right with that in in in tow a guy
that came into the year with questions based on math
and fourth down calls and everything else. Brandon Staley of
(17:11):
your Los Angeles Chargers tough loss as Patrick Mahomes once
again showing that he's a magician, maybe even in the
Harry Potter ilk where he may be more supreme than
Dumbledore or anybody else. You want to raise up along
the way as the Chiefs moved eight and to remember
when it wasn't gonna work because Tyreek Hill wasn't there. Yeah,
(17:33):
get out of here. As for the Chargers five and
five now, uh negative thirty one point differential, bevy of injuries,
not that every team doesn't have them. You're looking up
and you're trying to figure out out of the scorecard
who your wide receivers are. There with the Las Vegas Raiders,
we look at Bears and all they've done, talking about
(17:55):
my team's green bay and the bevy of injuries for them.
For the Chargers, Williams was out Keenan Allen missed a
ton of time, talk about meet guys on the defense,
missing time, et cetera. I did here during the broadcast
of Sunday Night Football, the waxing poetically of why we
don't give Derwin James more love because Derwin James isn't
(18:16):
on the field a ton in years past. He got
plenty of love when he was on the field for
what he does to a game. Stay healthy, six team game,
and everybody will love you, and you will be elevated
to the level of greatness that I think we all
agree on. But what the question becomes is do you
have the staff in place to harness justin Herbert the
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offense does the decision making of Brandon Stanley mostly last year,
but certainly even this year, and a couple of instances
where you raise your hand and say, well what about this?
What about that? Particularly as you get into US series
and third fourth down calls that oftentime when you're saying,
all right, we're gonna change, I need a new coach
(19:03):
becomes all right, well who's the new coach? Like? What
what is out there that you want to go get?
And I don't mean as an interim guy on your
staff that maybe you decide after a six game audition
is good enough to stay another year? Right Like what
they did in Houston. They decided to elevate Lovey Smith
and he's there and well, they're terrible this year, which
(19:23):
means he's probably gonna be gone as they decide who
the next coaches. And this week they're trying to decide
who their quarterback is. Davis Mills might finally see the Pine.
Too bad. I thought the guy had some promise coming
into the year, but that offense has been an abject failure.
The fact that they stripped Brandon Cooks of the Captain
Sea after he pouted about not getting traded his whole
(19:43):
love thing. You signed with Houston? What did you expect? Um?
But here in Los Angeles it's the well what do
you do? McVeigh had whispered in in the off season. Uh,
there were whispers about him going into the broadcast booth.
He did a long podcast with Jay glazer our I
on Unbreakable, the mental health podcast, talking about having to
(20:03):
change up what he was doing on a day to
day basis, and you know his is then fiance, Uh,
you know, trying to fight him to find some life
balance and things of that nature. You have Sean Payton
who's literally on the couch with Colin at least once
a week that I'm aware of here in southern California.
(20:24):
So even if you like Brandon Staley, Sean Payton is
sitting there waiting for his next opportunity, now long coveted
by Jerry Jones and Dallas. But Jerry has a guy
that's winning in Mike McCarthy. We all know his affinity
for Kellen Moore, So maybe maybe that's not an obvious, uh,
(20:47):
plug and play scenario there. And you go around the league,
we always see six to eight coaches fired. We already
know either Jeff Saturdays is going to be the new
coach after whatever they hoops, they would need to go
through to name him the full time coach. But you
have Indian apples I already talked about Houston, and go
down the line where we're gonna have a number of
(21:09):
other jobs suddenly come open, maybe the ones we've been
talking about tonight in Arizona and Denver. That for Sean Payton,
you're you're also looking, all right, I'm gonna be the top,
top guy. So what's the best scenario for me to
go in and try to recapture some of that glory
that I had at the Heights in New Orleans. And
(21:30):
you've got a quarterback that you can look at and say, yeah,
I think I could probably tweak things and take this
guy another level, Whereas in a lot of these other spots,
do you want to start from scratch with the QB?
Maybe you do, but not often do you get a tear,
turnkey potential opportunity. And while I may like Brandon Staleley,
I think he's a good coach overall, I got the
(21:51):
opportunity to go Sean, get Sean Payton. It's one of
those rare instances where I'd say the best, You've got
a better option out in the market place I want,
or what the bidding war becomes for Sean Payton. I
really do, because you know earlier when we got Jason
Lacking for on and if you missed that, it will
be on the podcast as soon as we wrap up.
He was trail one. Um. But what if things continue
(22:16):
to stumble in Buffalo? What if they don't get things right? Sure,
I mean that's not gonna be I'm not trying to
advocate for Sean McDermott's firing. How there there's seven and
three right now, and I still think they're going to
Super Bowl. They didn't have to move and then they
go and beat Cleveland, and I can argue about what
Cleveland was and is supposed to be and what they
(22:36):
will be, because there's another one of those scenarios. If
Deshaun Watson can play. He hadn't played in two years,
but everybody's convinced he's suddenly going to show up and
be a wizard. Um that that they win a couple
of games down the stretch, and you know that wind
looks better. But to your point, they did snap the skid,
but red zone efficiency certainly under fire, right, But I
guess my point is if if Buffalo struggles, they'd be
(22:59):
in the mix for Sean Payton. Cleveland will have the
Shawn Watson next year. And listen, I'm not here to
say that all is going to be forgotten, but after
a couple of touchdown passes, everyone seems to forget someone's
passed and seas Yeah, so maybe Cleveland becomes a place
that would be interested. I love the idea about the Chargers.
I think even if Dallas comes up short for Jerry Jones,
(23:23):
I think he would probably do whatever it took. You.
You're right here, Sean Payton is the apple of his
eye and maybe there's a return to New Orleans in
the works, or maybe Arizona says, what will it take?
We need to get someone in here to work with
with Kyler and make this happen. I mean, I think
you could see a pretty wild bidding war for Sean
Payton this offseason. So I wonder how beneficial it would
(23:45):
be if you're one of those squads and wants to
be in the mixed forum. Allow the Chargers to try
to get involved in that process early. You know, I'm
not saying fire Brandon Staley tomorrow, but Mike, there's gonna
be a lot of teams if things go south for
a couple of contenders or they don't make the super Bowl.
And you're right, Sean Payton's already given out feelers. I'm
missing it. He's always seemingly doing something on TV. And
(24:06):
it's good because I like listening to him, very good
at it. So I just I think it's gonna be
wild to see how quickly someone tries to make a
move for what I think is that the true catch
of this offseason coaching search. And you talk about teams
that will have high draft choice to look at Carolina
where they're at at three and eight. You've got yeah,
(24:27):
I mean, you've got money to spend and you'll get
to pick your quarterback. I wonder, though, did you move
past all of this mess, even though Matt Corroll never
saw a meaningful snap before he got hurt. But yeah, Jnison,
the Donald Mayfield experiment. There were questions about Corral before
he came out. But they'll they'll draft the quarterback. Um,
(24:50):
would you want if you have the opportunity to choose
your quarterback, to wait till next year, to wait till
Caleb Williams is out there? I mean, listen, I'm not
just I'm saying I shouldn't be saying this as a
jilted Sooner fan, right, But if I'm any coach that
is desired and they're like, hey, pick your quarterback. If
you're not gonna get Josh Allen, if you're not gonna
(25:10):
get Justin Herbert and those fall through, I might wait
here to see who's in position to get Caleb Williams.
Because Mike I think he's got the potential to be
Mahomes esque early in his career. He's really really special.
So it'll be very interesting to see how Sean Payton's
role May maybe even interest shakes out over the next
couple of months. Who's he talking about? Who does the
(25:31):
bus start to build for? And if this is a
one season kind of step away and he's back in
the game next year, he'll be wanted well. And then
you you point out, you know, guys going another year
down the road. I know there was a lot of
hype starting to build for Drake May before the lost
another great name. Yeah, so you know you've got two
guys a couple of years down the road. That makes sense.
(25:53):
But if you've got a chance where you're looking at it,
Josh Allen, you're looking at it justin Herbert, You've got
guys that you know, minor tweaking get you the job done,
perhaps to to get you to that next level. And
I had heard the thing of the return to New
Orleans right with Dennis Allen. It's it's been a failure. Uh,
Jamis Winston any chance he gets his telling people how
(26:14):
healthy is and how he's ready to play. So I'd
love to hear behind the scenes on actually is going
on in that building. Those are the report I need
the film though, like any I I get the game tape.
You mean you've got Andy Dalton running there and you're
still trotting that out and that that's really all I
can say about that, because beating the Rams ain't convincing
(26:35):
me anything's good, uh coming out of there thus far.
So the fact that Jamis isn't getting onto the field
of the practice film must just absolutely be atrocious, got terrible,
gotta be so bad and it's a mess man right now.
The fact that Landry and Thomas were never available, but
it's a while. He has been fantastic, but it's wild
to think they're only half game out of first place though,
(26:56):
are a game and half out of first place right now?
That that NFC set out, I didn't have them being
a disaster this year, but but welcome to the NFC
South Well. But it's also the beauty or horror of
the season, right I quote Tom Brady with some regularity
going back about a month and people asked about parody.
He goes, I see a lot of bad football. I
don't know about you, Chris, watching a lot of these games.
(27:18):
It ain't pretty. You could try to file it under
quote good defensive football, but I think you're just lying
to yourself. I think we've had uh, probably count on
one hand the amount of really really well played football
games from start to finish this year in the NFL.
It's it's it's not pretty right, And I when Tom
Brady said that, I agreed hundred percent, and I I
(27:39):
still believe it to this day. It's not getting better,
it's getting worse. Yeah. I mean, it's great for business
if everybody's five hundred because those standing based like the
second wild card and baseball fans stay interested that might
not have in September's otherwise same thing here going towards
the end of November. Some of these teams still mathematically alive.
And if the schedule, God hand you a gift, maybe
(28:02):
in a big injury ahead of your game or something else,
maybe the door opens up for you to to back
into a wild card berth. And once you're in, now
you're playing with house money. Anything that they got in
that special Henry Winkler playbook like out of the water Boy.
Suddenly it comes out there and coach Klein, who was
on the sidelines, meeting his buddy Patrick Mahomes for the
(28:23):
first time. Patrick Mahomes said he met his idols Arnie
what a water boy was last night it was. You
gotta tell me he's just playing dumb there. I have
no idea. I don't know if it's all an act
or not. Whatever it is, his only wrestling references give
me a snap into a slim gym and the only
movie reference usually is something from like the nineteen forties,
(28:44):
So I don't know if it's all a bit, but
he had no idea who coach Klein was last? Alright,
time to get basket uh in kind, Arnie span your
here's movie lists and DVDs and a Netflix subscription, or
just turner classic movies to get a morn into those
forties films
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