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November 29, 2022 22 mins

The Lakers blew a 17-point fourth-quarter lead and lost to the Pacers on a buzzer-beater 3-pointer by rookie Andrew Nembhard. Find out why Jason’s idea for a "Time Management Retreats for Football Coaches" could be a big moneymaker. And Deion Sanders admits that he’s talking to everyone about being a head coach, including Colorado. 

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should be well. Number one, I'm glad we talked with
Anthony Davis while the Lakers were waiting. Number two. Frostburg
turned out to be right. Reggie Miller is gonna get
hot at some point and watch what happens. The Lakers
had a ten point lead and the Pacers whittled it

(01:09):
down and a ten point lead with about five minutes
left to go. The Pacers whittle it down, whittle it down,
whittle it down. But the Lakers have a one fifteen
one third team lead. After Lebron makes a floater with
about twenty seconds left to go, time ticks down. Pacers
have the ball out of bounds with about eight seconds

(01:32):
left to go, Miles Turner is wide open four or three.
I mean, how he gets this wide open off the
time out and off of play is beyond me. But
Miles Turner gets wide open for a three, and he
cleans it and the ball bounces around, and I don't
know how it only took eight It didn't take more
than eight seconds off the clock, but the ball bounces

(01:54):
around like crazy. Yrise Halliburton gets the rebound. He chucks
it out to Andrew nem Bard, who's got the ball
from about twenty five ft away. It's a last gap
shot with less than a second on the clock, and
he drains the three for the win. The Pacers win
one sixteen one in an absolute shocker. If Turner makes

(02:19):
the three, it's okay. Miles Turner's open. He makes the three,
You still have seven seconds left, but this ball bounces around.
The Pacers keep the rebound and Nimbard hits a fter
at the buzzer to win this game one sixteen to
one fifteen, And you know this is a guy who
who came off the bench, played twenty nine minutes, scored

(02:41):
twelve points, four out of seven from three point range,
including that dagger, seventeen point lead inside ten minutes remaining
get dominated on the boards. Uh, you had Benedict Mathurin
who is the guy famously saying I can't wait to
see Lebron on the nobody's better than me. Uh, twenty

(03:02):
three points and eight boards for him in his thirty
two minutes that he played tonight, and after the shot
went in, as all the celebrating uh Indiana Pacers, the staff,
everybody jumping up and down and losing their mind. Lebron
chewing on his mouthpiece one of those things I know
you love from NBA players and NFL players are like,

(03:23):
just watched the replay on the JumboTron and watched this
the replay and then he just put his head down
and walked into the tunnel, just dejected after the effort
that they had that in the final minute just got
whittled away. And the Pacers showing the energy down the
stretch on the boards. I mean, this is this is stunning,

(03:46):
Like this is one of those games where the Lakers
come in at seven and eleven. They're feeling pretty good.
They won, they had won five out of six. Anthony
Davis has another monster game, ran and wasted thirteen rebounds,
also had six assists team highs six assists and they
blow this lead down the stretch and the Pacers hit

(04:09):
a miracle three to win this game at the buzzer.
This is when you hear that phrase, oh, a loss
is a loss. No, all losses are not created equally.
And you would could have put a picture of Ned
Hard hitting the three and the celebration after, because this
is one of those gut punch losses that takes a
long time to get back from. Because this, this loss

(04:29):
for the Lakers is just, uh, this is this is
in your hip pocket. This is now six out of
seven and we're feeling great and a d has been
the player we expect them to be three years ago
and instead now it's a huge loss and you're walking
around going, how do we lose this game? How we
had twenty four from Westbrook off the bench standing ovation

(04:49):
when the guy left the game, right, we had a
standard he was dancing after making it earlier in the
game that starting to go viral. Uh, really, this is
one of the this is a gut punch loss. Where
you were you? This is one of those? How long
is this loss hang over the team? Four? Well, here's
one of one of the other pieces though, talking about
Lebron staring up at the scoreboard, the other thing he

(05:10):
was looking at and going back and forth with that
guy Frostburg, I mean he lost him right. Lebron was
down near the bucket and made a late effort to
try to get towards defending and flying out at least
giving him a distraction, but wide open look because Lebron
hadn't recovered and stayed with him. So part of that

(05:33):
was where was I on the court? And how did
he get open? And watching the sequence and realizing deficiencies, uh,
defensively of his own? No, no, I know, i'd see.
I hear what you're saying, but I think this is
what Lebron was doing. He was looking at the score
at the end, going how do I explain this at
the end of the game, So it's not my fault.
So I can say, well, you know, and seven and three,

(05:56):
where was I on that? Okay? I could say it
was supposed to be here? And the rotation was gonna
be here. I gotta make sure I know what ball
by stats were. Gotta big sure, Okay, I know what
a d stats were. I gotta make sure. Okay, okay, okay,
great that I'm walking. He completely lost his man. Well,
the other is to raise your hand and go, hey,
how did you only have three free throw attempts? I

(06:17):
just settled for somebody jumps out, hang up and take
it off the air. See. I think he would love
to get that question, and not about the end of
the game. Hey, dude, what happen? No no, no, no, no, no.
You hammer the the end of game with three or
four and then you give him the quote softball about
free throw attemps. Who Uh. Here's how that final sequence

(06:38):
sounded on Lakers Radio network. Laker fans, cover your ears.
Make sure you get it in turn up for the league.
Sure take it? How a Burson plon just to win me?
Did it real hard? There it is Billy mckon Lakers TV. Uh. There,

(07:04):
stunned they were to let the Pacers with it like
you had to look down at the score sheet. No, Bart,
I can't believe that exactly. That's kind of more when
it sounded like oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. I
really that is a stunning, stunning loss for the Lakers.
Absolutely stunning. Uh so yeah, if Lebron says something or

(07:26):
you know, when he starts during the stats, we'll bring
it to you here. Uh. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Um.
But a couple of big stories out of the NFL

(07:47):
look none bigger than what we saw on Monday Night football.
With the Colts losing to the Steelers seventeen, Colts have
the football with less than two minutes left to go.
On a final drive, Matt Ryan runs for uh seventeen
yards on a second and twenty play to give the
Colts a third and three situation from the Steelers twenty

(08:10):
six yard line with fifty nine seconds left to go.
The Colts head coach Jeff Saturday coach Lasso Let's near
thirty seconds run off the clock before they run a
third and three play, which gains no yards. They call
time out. Fourth and one passes incomplete, they turned over
the Steelers on downs. Steelers wind up winning the game. Now,

(08:32):
we talked about this last hour from the perspective of
I don't know. I don't understand why Jeff Saturday thought
you had more time than you did. He said after
the game, time wasn't really a factor. Dude. You got
a minute left. Your quarterback just ran for seventeen yards.
You need to get in the end zone. You need
a time out to at least set things up over
the course of the next minute. You don't want your

(08:53):
team asking questions and wondering what's happening, Why are we
not snapping the ball? Suddenly the the stadiums arts going
crazy because you only have so many seconds. And when
you snap that ball with thirty seconds left, even if
you get that first down, now you have thirty seconds
and no matter how many time out you have, the
clock is gonna still hit zero. Right, you can're not

(09:14):
extending the game by five minutes you have. You put
yourself in a situation where you've made it much more
difficult to score because you have let time tick off
the clock. That puts doubt in your players minds and
makes it harder because there are plays that are gonna
happen that are unexpected. A guy's not gonna be able
to get out of bounds, that guy's gonna try to
cut back in bounds. You're gonna not have a time

(09:36):
out left when you need it. These things happen, and
he blew the time management thing. And what I don't get, Mike,
And that's why I love our idea of of having
a coaches time management retreat. I will charge twenty dollars
and I'll make it like you know, I don't want
it to be too big. Let's just have like eight
coaches at most, and I can just keep running this

(09:56):
all through the spring, where I'll have them out to
l a here and will take a whole weekend. We'll
go play golf, will have team building exercises, I'll serve sandwiches.
But we will sit in a room and I will
tell you when to call time out, when not to
call time out, What situation calls for a time out,
what situation doesn't call for a time out. When there's
a minute and a half left and you have two

(10:18):
time outs left and you're up by four, when do
you call a time out? I will go through all
of these situations and the coaches will walk away from
this going now, I understand time management because that's what
I That's what I don't get. Is that still to
this day and age, there are so many NFL and
college football head coaches Dino Baber's who don't understand the

(10:38):
time management situation in the last two minutes and they
struggle with it. And why do you struggle with this?
It's part of being a head coach, knowing time management,
knowing when to call a time out, knowing what you
need to do to be able to win this game,
to give your team enough time on the clock or
to not have enough time on the clock for the
other team to score. I don't get it because this
is something that's easily a fall on the head coach question.

(11:01):
No one's blaming the offensive coordinator if if you don't
call time out, right, if you have a bad game
plan offensively, you're gonna get people saying, boy, the O
C is terrible. Boy, that was a bad game plan.
We didn't have X, Y, and Z. But when you
don't call time out, that's on the head coach. That's
what everybody is gonna say. That's the biggest thing you
can take off of your plate, And I don't know
why coaches don't try to get better at it. Instead

(11:24):
they dismiss and say, well, I have somebody on staff
that does it well. You don't always have somebody on
staff because look at what happens tonight, or or no,
I think I got it. I don't need to worry
about it anymore. Someone will figure out. Like it's it's
an important thing to know in the game is to
know when to call time out and when to not
do it, and how much time you want to leave
on the clock to make sure you have enough time

(11:44):
to do what you want to do. And still coaches
struggle with it, and they don't they don't ask for
help on it, They don't try to get better on it.
Some of them just have somebody on the heads and
going do we need to call a time out here?
And the guy says yes, No, I don't know. I
don't understand why coaches don't do everything they can, just
like anything else with game planning, if you don't understand
a portion of game planet, hey, I gotta make sure

(12:05):
I know. This is why I want to be a
head coach in the NFL. Time management the end of
games is a pretty big deal. You should make every
effort to try to learn it. Well. The whole point
is that you delegate all sorts of functions on game
day right from the guy that has to make sure
your core doesn't take out your legs, and you run
up and down the sideline through your entire coaching staff.

(12:26):
Notice how I went all the way down to the
core of the the headset operator. Right. It's it's a flow.
It's it's trying to get through and you want to
minimize the amount of things that are on your plate.
That's what we talk about all time. Give a play calling.
Why it's such a big deal if when you do it,
because in theory, you've been neglecting something else, some somebody,

(12:49):
something else in the process. We saw it in Denver,
we saw it in Philly last year. It lets you
focus on the bigger picture. Right now, you've got someone
who the devil is in the details. Well, in theory,
you hire someone like Rossberg, like they did in Denver,
saying hey, I can't I gotta do this right, I
need I need an extra set of eyes to keep
me honest in terms of these situations, to make sure

(13:11):
they don't get away from me. I don't. And once
you delegate it, okay, once they it's on them. Right,
you've hired an expert quote unquote to get you to
the finish line in that regard. In this case, you
had three time out you know, Steve pointed out so
well in his last update he had two him in
his pocket when he left, which is good life advice

(13:32):
coming out of this game too. So you're not only
you getting not only are you getting the retreat where
we teach you these practices and communication skills by which
to utilize your time outs most effectively. But the reminder
from Jeff Saturday is all of us we need them
for our physical and mental well health, you know, well being.

(13:53):
We we need to take care of of all of
those things. Take as Marshawn Lynch said, take care of
your mentals, take care of your chickens, all right, take
care of your head, and take care of your money,
and and things can work out because you can't take
them with you, so be smart about it. The same
thing here, see Jeff Saturday. I gave him credit for
giving us an opportunity to talk about life advice and

(14:16):
pausing every now and again. But do you the point
of the retreat. It's like, yeah, recognize that sometimes you
need that help. And if you hired someone to do it,
don't then say nope, I'm caught up. It's like the
down and distance on fourth downs. If this is your philosophy,
then you gotta stick with it because the percentages only
work if you're consistent. Otherwise you keep changing all the variables.

(14:37):
And I would, and I would so make this, make
this retreat like Top Gun, like instead of no, no, no no,
I'm gonna pick you against each other. I'm gonna build rivalries.
We're gonna play volleyball and Jeane Shorts. I would do
all of it. It would be like Top Gun. I'm fighter.
I come in the beginning and I throw some insults.
You're the best of the best. Will make it better,
especially you there Saturday. No, I would do all of those. No, no, no.

(14:59):
The first day is comfortable with an in and out
truck for lunch, and then day two when they they're
all soft and comfortable thinking, it's like, all right, now
we're going to the simulator. Let's go in and out
truck for lunch. Well, we gotta be keeping efficient and
that's another stop on their l a tour that they
don't have to make time management. See what it all
does right there? Telling me man, it could be a

(15:22):
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(15:44):
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(16:07):
with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the ti
iraq dot Com studios. And I gotta tell you, Mike this,
this really hits me hard right now. Um, Clarence Gilliard
has died. You remember his name, you remember his roles.
Two of the more iconic movies in the last forty years.

(16:28):
THEO from die Hard, Sundown and Top Gun was a
U n l V professor for the last few years,
love teaching kids. He was sixty six years old. UH.
For a lot of years he was on Matlock, he
was on Walker Texas Ranger Um passed away today at
the age of sixty six. I still run his die

(16:49):
Hard and Top Gun lines in my house all the time. Now.
My daughter being thirteen, has just been and you know,
exposed to Top Gun and die Hard a lot the
last year or so, and I'm running his lines with
her all the time. I I can't. I can't believe
it's sixties six years old that he's done. I've been
in a lot of a lot of classics, a couple

(17:10):
of things early in his career where he was hanging
out with Gary Coleman, a bunch between different strokes and
the kids with Q. But yeah, and again we go
back to the Jeff Saturday life lessons right, the time
outs and taking them and making sure you can and
and part of that is what we just celebrated with
Thanksgiving and reaching out to your friends, family and checking in. UH.

(17:33):
Something we tried to make sure to make a big
point in during the COVID run as well, and then
commemorating you know the good that we watched in these
television I mean, we're big pop culture junkies, so things
like this, you know, they they hit more than they
should for guys, uh and women that we we've never
met but have been in your house so much, particularly

(17:53):
with the amount of TV watching. Uh, well that you
and I do. I mean, you think about that in
those two of the most iconic movie is of the
last forty years, that in forty years people will still
talk about Top Gun and die Hard and and he
was in He was in both of them and had
a great career on TV two. But episodes of Walker,
that's a lot of because the eyes of the Ranger

(18:14):
are upon you, always there. I I still say, you know,
like I even ran a line of his today when
we were getting ready to go out to a soccer
game and my my wife says to me, are are
you ready to go? Like I was taking a long
time to get ready ready to go, We're leaving, and
I said, you didn't bring me along from my charm
and good looks, did you? Right? I still ran I

(18:35):
ran a line of his today as we were walking
out the door, oh man, and we know the answer
to that was no. Yeah, uh, rest in peace sixties
six years old. Uh. The Jason Smith's with Mike Harmon
live from the ti irac dot com studios and yeah,
you know, we've talked a lot about Jeff Saturday today
and and the big mistake he had, and you catch

(18:56):
that on the Best of podcast. But a really big
story tonight that I just love is Dion Sanders has
been offered the head coaching job at Colorado. Colorado has
been tough times the last few years. For a while,
they're one of the big twelves, big programs in the
nineties early two thousand's, but Colorado has not quite been Colorado.

(19:17):
Dion Sanders, who has Jackson State ready for the conference
championship game this weekend, um, has been offered the job.
How do we know this because he said so. He said,
oh yeah, yeah, Colorado offered me the job. Other schools
have called as well. And I love this story strictly
because when we normally get stories about coaches potentially leaving

(19:37):
to go someplace else in college football and college basketball,
they all say the same thing. I have had no
contact with this school. I have not talked to anybody,
and someone's making stories up. This is not happening, even
though you know, behind closed doors they're trying to make
this deal happen. The coaches saying I've had no contact,
I haven't talked to anybody. This is not happening. And
here's Deon Sanders going, oh yeah, Colorado, Oh yeah, they

(19:58):
called me, yeah, oh yeah. And there's other schools too.
But they're all calling me. Man, Look look at what
I'm doing here. They're all, oh, yeah, I'm talking to everybody.
I love that. At least he's honest. And he's saying,
oh yeah, I'm talking. I'm talking to a bunch of
different people. Now, yeah. I mean I like the honesty.
I like the candor. You know, PILs get uncomfortable, right.
We we talk about it all the time on radio,
sports television, of we want honesty from athletes and coaches

(20:21):
until we don't. Oh he can't say that. But Lamar
Jackson and the flap over going on social media and
basically telling the guy to go beat it and not
so many uh not so uncertain terms uh and then
later deleting it and now the flap out of that
like it was an honest reaction. Should he do it?
And yeah, I think we can all stipulate to that.

(20:42):
But in the heat of the moment, you probably have
a lot more of those that never become as well
known right from public uh and in private citizens. In
this case, Deon Santez just said yeah, because what's he doing.
He's trying to promote himself. That's what he've been doing
since Florida State, right he went, and he's been coaching

(21:03):
the last couple of years. You've done a lot of
good for the program, a lot of resources, a lot
of connections, a lot of in roads to shining a
light on athletes that otherwise wouldn't and maybe get some
chances to move up into positions, to keep playing football,
to keep their schooling going, et cetera. And now it's

(21:24):
his time to say, hey, I've done really well here.
Sure of course they're calling me. What's gonna say. No,
I haven't gotten a call at all. Nobody knows who
I am down here. No, he's Sanders. He's gonna say, look,
we're dominating. And of course people are gonna come knocking
on my door, you know, Coach Prime coach Prime. That's
me now the now. The thing about this is that

(21:45):
he's not gonna go to Colorado. He had to take
the Jackson State job because look, he had no experience,
and it was okay, this might help us as much
as it helps you. And it's worked out great. Right,
He's run a great program, he's getting a chance. Colorado
is not his next step. He wants an sec high
SEC level slash Florida State opening to be his next one,
to go toe to toe with Saban and Hardball and

(22:08):
everybody else. That's the job that Dion Sanders wants well.
And if you're gonna be prime, you you gotta go
get the recruits in the biggest spots. Come on, that's
the big win. Twitter at how about a fresca? Mike
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