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January 6, 2023 • 39 mins

Jason Smith with Mike Harmon discuss the improving health of Bills S Damar Hamlin. Goodell and the NFL announce the cancellation of the week 17 match between the Bills/Bengals, and longtime NFL Insider/HoF Voter Jason Cole discusses NFL playoff implications and so much more!

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way tire buying should be. Well, it is a big
Thursday because now we have clarity, Mike Carmon. We begin
tonight with clarity. Clarity is always a good way to begin. Well,
I mean, we muddled through our lives and relative obscurity
and and things included by well, here in southern California,

(01:09):
a lot of rain, a lot of bad driving, or
worst driving as it were. So to get some clarity
on things would be great. I mean, I know we
are missing one very important element of this Thursday night.
I know all the all the complaining we all did.
This game sucks, This game is the worst. Who'll put
these teams on? Oh my god, Amazons losing money? Hey

(01:31):
wait wait, there's no game tonight. Wait what do you mean?
What do you mean there's no game? I just want
to complain that the games are bad. I just want
to complain about it. But I still want a game.
I don't I don't want it there to be no game.
I still want there to be a game with the game. Instead,
we got a little n B A and the Battle
for l A between U C. L A and USC.
Did you guys really think for one second Al Michael's
was going to show up to that game even if

(01:53):
there was football the night. I think I think he
tapped out. I think he said at New Year's I'm
done with you. I really would like to get val
Michael's like to play a joke on for next year.
Give him a pretend slate. Hey, al we're giving you
the uh the slate of Thursday games before they before
they made public and just like the worst games you
could possibly imagine, like you know, Jets, Panthers, you know,

(02:14):
and whoever's had the longest odds to just just the
worst games every Yeah, yeah, it's like, but I thought
they were supposed to have to everybody who's supposed to
have to play on Thursday Texans tighten again and again.
It would just be the best. Hey, a non Tom
Brady Tampa Bay Buccaneers team against Arizona on Week three? Right,

(02:35):
the Commanders again, and it would just be so great.
Just give him this, faithless here's your games, get your
prep ready and show up. Al, these are your games.
Al might pre uh, he might record some of his
whining about the games early. But the reason we have
a big night tonight, and it is a a night
of clarity regarding the Bills and the Bengals because the

(02:58):
decisions made about the game on Monday night, it is
not going to be resumed. There is no game. It's
basically going to be declared a no contest. Now there's
obviously big time angles coming off of this, but let's
not lose sight of what the most important thing was today.
Why did the NFL? Why were they able to get

(03:18):
this decision made today because Damar Hamlin had an incredible
day Tomorrow. Hamlin, the big update we've gotten from him
over the course of the last twenty four hours. He
is awake after being medically put to sleep. He is
communicating with doctors and his family. He's holding hands. The
first question he asked after the game after he woke

(03:39):
up because he can't speak, because he's still innovated, so
he can't speak yet, was he running a piece of paper?
Who won the game? And the doctor tells him you won,
you won, you won the game of life. And so
now he's being told everything that's going on. He's responding.
He's doing better. He is still in critical condition, but
here's an unbelievably positive day of him. He's up, he's aware,
and that's that's the other part of this is that

(04:00):
he's not just awake. He is awake and aware. And
the doctor even said it today. He's not just there,
he's there. He's not just a waylogically complete or however
it was termed yes man, not to me? Is I mean,
that's the million million, billion dollar question, right, because we
all fill out forms, right, you get to a certain age,

(04:21):
you're you're filling out a will, You're filling out all
these different things, and a lot of things they ask
you are about physical ailments versus your mental acuity and
your ability to still think, rationalized and communicate on your own.
Do you want this in these terms or whatever? And
for me it's always the hard part. Like physically, I'm
already breaking down everything everything, it hurts. But it's the

(04:45):
if if mentally there there's something, then that's where I
start getting into the all right, let's figure out how
legally we have to word these things or whatever else,
so to get that neurologically complete intact like that, to me,
I let out the big amen to that. I mean,
just a huge relief and certainly a nice benchmark from

(05:07):
which to move forward. And you're also starting to get
stories of now it's about getting him back to who
he is, right, the doctor said, Now, it's about the
long that's gonna be long. It's gonna take a while
to get him back to the person he was. Even
ask him can he play football again? And you think
I thought the doctor would just say what is wrong
with you asking that question? But he actually said it's
too early to see. So it's like whoa, So maybe

(05:30):
the guy could play football again. Seriously, he could possible.
Oh my goodness. So this is amazingly positive day. And
I'm and this is what has allowed the NFL to
now make this decision and say, Okay, now we can
talk about the game right, which is which is at
which is great. I can't fault the NFL for anything
on this because they made the right call in the
end in canceling the game and declaring it basically a

(05:50):
no contest. So the game is not going to be played. Now,
when can we decide what we're going to Okay, now
we can because Tamar Hamlin looks like he is getting
better and better every day, and there's a lot of
positive things, and we do have to get on with
the business of the NFL. Let's say, and I figured
we'd hear I mean, at latest it would be closed
the business on Friday, right, because you gotta do it

(06:11):
game time on Saturday. I thought it would be starting.
I thought initially it would be after the Chiefs game,
because if the Chiefs win on Saturday, that cancels out
a couple of potential scenarios in what had to be
done to the game, because that would eliminate the Bengals
from getting the number one seed because they would have
had it no matter what, they would have had a
better And so I said after the Chiefs game, the

(06:32):
NFL has got two scenarios. They have one if the
Chiefs win, and then they then would be the Chiefs
and the Bills the number one seed. And then we
have one if the Chiefs lose, and then suddenly the
Bengals are in the mix and the Bills all three teams.
So I thought after that Chiefs game, which they're you know, look,
they're they're playing the Raiders, so they're probably gonna win.
J was pretty good. No, here, here's the thing I

(06:52):
want to say about that. You have seen. The Chiefs
have been the one team in the NFL that made
Russell Wilson look competent this year. This is the only
team that you could say, you know what, I saw
the guy that was there for the first nine years
of his career. Yeah, but they also had a new head.
They also had a new head coach. Who is you know,
it's not the old guy, right, It's it's not Nathaniel Hacketsa. Hey,

(07:15):
maybe things are a little bit two games like he
got knocked out in the other one. He put up
good numbers and then here so Jared Stidham, who knows
better than it's better than Derek right down. Nine point
underdogs are the Raiders at home. But that's why I
thought we were gonna get this on Saturday, that that
game is gonna happen, and then we're gonna find out

(07:36):
before the other two teams play on Sunday. But we
get the result today and it's a little complicated. So
we're gonna break it down in in certain in certain
parts for you, specific parts, because that's the easiest way
to do it. And the number one thing is if
the a f C Championship game involves one team that
has not played enough games as the other team, So
that means if either the Bengals or the Bills make

(07:59):
it to the a f C Championship Game, then that
game is going to be played on a neutral field.
That's that's the That's the big thing right there. What
because this is about seating right. This is not about
making the playoffs. This is about seating well. And that
one of their considerations was the fact that it doesn't
affect who's making the play right, because there were some
scenarios where people were thrown out. They might all all
of a sudden throw back the eighth team in because

(08:22):
of all the bye weeks and eventually get the Jets,
and the Jets would eventually get in immediately had big
thought pieces of it. What did it do for the tits?
Tits got screwed and they didn't play anybody, and blah
blah blah blah blah. Look how yeah, Look how fast?
Cause you already see people complaining about this. Look how
fast people have gone from Hey, Damar Hamlin's health is

(08:42):
number one and that's it? And then oh no, no,
I don't care about anything else. And then the minute
the solution comes up, it's boy, the NFL is screwing
the Bengals on what's going It's ridiculous. How do you
not addings? Wait, but I thought, just a couple of
days ago it was the health of Damar Hamlin. I mean, really,
so fast it was yes, yes, yes, But then the
minute decision is made, Oh I don't like it. This
is awful. You know what. First of all, let me

(09:04):
just say this, is there going to be issues with
any result the NFL puts forward. Yes, of course there's
gonna be questions cause it's unprecedented. We're not gonna have
the team's play an equal amount of games. We're having
to stop a game because a player nearly died on
the field had to be brought back to life. So yeah,
there's gonna be decisions that are made, and a lot
of people are not gonna like it. I don't like it.
I don't like it. You know what, blank those people

(09:27):
because this is a decision that was made with the
humanity of what went on on Monday and months. We're
not going to finish the game, right, I mean, the
owners are gonna vote tomorrow on this, but it's gonna
be likely this is gonna be the scenario, and and
so that we're gonna first thing we're gonna get is
and um, a neutral field a f C championship game.
I don't think the Chief's care. I don't think the
Bills care. I don't think the Bengals care. They're in

(09:49):
the playoffs. They're gonna play if we're playing, Okay, we're
playing a neutral site. Now the Chiefs could be a
team they can say, boy, but wait, but we could
get it. But hang on. If the Bills had played
and won their last two games. Bills beat you earlier
in the Season's the Bills get it, so really, no
teams are gonna complain. And if the Bills and the
and and the and the and the Bengals and the Chiefs,
they're all gonna be okay with this, it's fine. But

(10:09):
I just love how so fast it's gone from this is, hey,
let's talk about what's important to Oh man, I can't
believe this. We've gotten back to normal pretty fast in
the last couple of I mean, I am surprised, and
I'm encouraged by the fact that the NFL even took
the step to say, hey, you know what, We're not
re re up in this game. We're not changing up

(10:29):
the schedules going forward. I really thought they would find
a way to jam me in a restart. Part one,
there's that. The other is, there's a big argument, and
I think it's growing the last couple of years. How
many teams truly have a home field advantage the way

(10:49):
it used to be termed I used you know, it's
the worst at least three points. All three of the
teams at the top of the FC you could argue
have that home field thing, especially the chief and then
Cincinnati is has been growing. They've been they were good
awhile then they hit the dregs again. Uh and and

(11:10):
now you've got part two as it flows. So it's
the curiosity there and we'll see what city becomes the
beneficiary of that if, when, if, and when it comes
to pass. But you're you're right. They needed clarity, they
needed to move on. And in the end, you know,
there's going to be the echo chamber of people that

(11:30):
are upset no matter what decision you make. And then
I'm sure people were immediately corresponding with the league office
going what does it mean for fantasy owners? That's there's
there's gonna be your first one. Who's gonna be the
first person to do that topic? So are all my
far lays from week seventeen now and no contests? Do
I get my money back because I had that game?

(11:52):
Do I win because I had? The guys? All seriousness?
What is it? What what does that mean for fantasy?
Do they go to week eighteen or they're just I
think a lot of leagues are handling it very differently.
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(12:13):
Radio whipp Now, Frostburg says, Yea, you have something incredible?
Is it the Jets making the playoffs? Have the NFL
changed things so the Jets can make the playoffs? Is
that what it is? Jesus couldn't make the Jets get
into the planoff. You know, you could buy that grilled
Jesus machine now Jesus or the yeah, the Jesus, Jesus
Jesus or the Jesus which which one nice? Could the Jesus? Okay? Alright,

(12:36):
so it's that's not happening. So it's the Jets not
getting it. Well, if if suddenly, i mean that was
the edict from the league office, she kind of just
had to let it happen, didn't you. I Mean, isn't
that where we're at in this process? Like you're just
waiting now. Everybody wanted the commissioner to make a decision, right, Hey,
someone's gonna get you know, screwing this process. So if
his edict was, hey, the Jets make the playoffs, thank you.

(12:59):
I mean that's all anybody wanted all week, right, Come on,
commission where are you do you? I shumpon, man, do
you want to change religions? I got a book that
was written by Jesus. Hang on, hang on, elder cutting
and elder cutting? All right, get the book. A Mormon
into the yow when he got Frostburg. Apparently NFL network

(13:19):
guys is showing the Lions Packers from earlier in the season.
But don't tell Dicky v it's from earlier in the
season because he's no, he's NFL matchup. The Lions lead
the Packers fifteen the six. Early in the fourth quarter,
Jaron Rodgers is thrown in interceptions in the red zone.
The Lions d has been super Oh no, wait, wait wait,

(13:43):
I could bet him at the end of this game
and win and win. Hey, how much you wanted? How
much you want to bet this game? And nine? Hey,
let me ask you a question. If I get the
exact if I get the result of the game exactly
all right. Let's say I get the result of the
game exactly right. And let's say I get I don't know,

(14:06):
I get Aaron Rodgers yardage to the number. How much
money will you give me? How much money will you
give me? If I could just tell you what it's
gonna be, because I'm gonna say this is gonna be
a fifteen nine game. It's gonna end fifteen nine. You're
gonna it's gonna end that way. Lines are gonna really
they're gonna step up here, and I'm gonna say about
two to one for Aaron Rodgers in this game. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

(14:34):
no no no. I think so I think he got
he got the message. Oh he found out the way
he ends it. I was absolutely fooled, slash hysterical. I
thought Lions Packers game was played tonight. Give me a turnover, baby,
Well you could have been live betting with Dickie V.

(14:58):
What's this this third down call percentage? Just say he's gonna,
you know, flip one out Aaron Aaron Jones right here,
I took called dick tales money. He kept doubling down.
I kept tullable, what's gonna happen? On? And hit me?
I'm out, Dicky V. Gotta time out. You're losing money
and over fist you owe Jason Smith hundred and fifty

(15:20):
million dollars, get it. He's taking on. Yeah, but you
know what he would he would doing a lot of
people have done on eBay because the like trading card
and collectibles market has been very fluid in these financial
times where all of a sudden it's like no, no no, no,
my kid accidentally bit on it, and Dickey V would
be like, I was hacked, but he wasn't, Mike, No,

(15:41):
but but that would have been the excuse if Jason
had said, hey, you owe me half a million dollars,
Like I could see Jason doing that because it's very
rare to find the Jets win, like he would pretend
it was live just because no, well just listen, No, no,
I think Dicky V memories he got got Dick, No,
he did, But Dick Dick fighteal is actually had a
great night because for a while he thought we had

(16:03):
a network. Why is nobody else talking about Why isn't
it trending anywhere? Oh the Lion's defense, I don't understand.
Oh it's I mean, he thought he's a lucky one
because he thought we had a live he had a
live game going on when there's no you know, that's
the best thing in life for Dicky V. Man, that's

(16:25):
that's two and a half hours of entertainment. He got
horrible people probably texted him and ruined it for him.
Oh man, Hey, the Lions are in the playoffs. The
Lions are in the playoffs. That's a final. Baby, Aaron
Rodgers is going home. How much you wanted, bet Dickie.
Aaron Rodgers is the Packers leading rusher in this game,

(16:48):
but I'm gonna baby leads the team in Russia, Betty
dick would be top of the rock. I could have
won everything. I could have won everything I could have won,
I could add. I could have all the kind of
retap off that I could have walked away. I could
have gone. I could have given money to Carlos Correa. Hey,
come to the match. Don't talk to anybody else. Get
him time out, Scott for it's come to me. I

(17:11):
got money to burn. I got all Dicky V's money,
I got add all money everything. It's after dark twenty
years later, when Ben's times money has fleece Dicky v
On that we're already playing. You get Dick Vitale and

(17:35):
you put him in a room like a sensory deprivation tank,
and you play a game and you tell him is
this game live or is it on tape? And you
can show him games from like you know, the mid
nineteen nineties, like when Fox had to see through bug
in the upper left hand corner. You can show him
games with Coach Can on the sideline. Look at Barry
sand there's another touchdown the Lions. Look at this. So

(17:57):
I can't believe it. Don mccowski got picked tough in
the end, Zode. Just always think about how good Calvin
Johnson would have been in the low post. They both
stayed a basketball. Look at Herman more. Look at this,
So I gotta pick him up in fantasy. Oh my god,
I can't believe Mark sanche own guy. Oh that was

(18:19):
the best he thought the game was going on. No
good for him, though we applaud him. That's fantastic. Hey,
if you haven't watched the game, it's new to you, right.
It was the old NBC tagline all those because they
have the summer reruns if you didn't watch in the fall,
and too new to you. When I was, when I was,
when I was in college, I needed a muffler from

(18:41):
my car. My uncle Gobby, I used muffler from another
car in the came in and I said, but this
mufflers used. He goes, yeah, but it's finally go, yeah,
but it's used. He goes, it's new to you and
you're not paying for it. I said, all right, that
the second part of the let's put it on. You're
not paying for it, let's put it on. Let's put
it on the car. It sounds like something I may
have said to my kids about different things, like shut
you didn't pay for it, It doesn't matter, it's new

(19:02):
to you. Look at this. I don't believe it. Uh so, yes,
Dicky V. The Jets are who it's it's gotta be
nineteen sixty nine. I want to know what are the
scores were showing up or did they eliminate those of
the NFL networks lead Yeah, no, no, they take out

(19:28):
the old ticker from you know what? This what the
highlights from that week? It was all week eight teens
tells you the over under. It's all on here. God
bless you. That's awesome. Hey, how are the Lions a
team that can make the playoffs? It says here they're
one in six. What's going on? I don't understand they're
one and six with their playoffs and Terry well, they

(19:50):
mustn't been one in six in the last seven games
against Green Bay. This might be the last time we
ever see her in Roger. Wow, you know what I
this whole thing planned here now it's all about alternate
ideas for the Bills and the Bengals and Dicky v
th On the Packers and Lions. Was live. Oh, it's live.
We're watching its great now. But it's happy Thursday. You

(20:11):
know we we We've gone from everybody complaining every single
Thursday saying, oh, we can't believe these game stakes. Why
do we get these games? And twos are awful? Oh
I missed a game. I really want to see a
game on Thursday night. I really want that. We're live
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(20:32):
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should be. Now, let me give you one of my ideas.
Right that the big story tonight. We're gona get into
it a lot. With Jason Cole coming up in a
few minutes. The NFL has made a decision. They are
going to abandon the Bills Bengals game from Monday night
it's not going to be a result at all. And
how the NFL figures out the playoffs, well, it's pretty simple.

(20:55):
If either the Bills or the Bengals make it to
the a f C Championship game, that game will be
played at a neutral site because it's not fair to
those two teams or the Chiefs when all three of
them were in the mix to make it to the
a f C Championship game. So if one of those
teams is in it between, that played on Monday night,
they play the a f C title game at a
neutral field. The Bengals have already clinched the a f

(21:16):
C North. The Ravens, even if they beat them this weekend,
cannot pass them. So the Bengals are the champions. Not
quite as fair to the Ravens. But if these two
teams meet in the playoffs, the Ravens and the Bengals,
there will be a coin flip four home field. So
it's not that should be neutral as a as a solution, sure,
but it's all, but it depends. It's if the raven

(21:38):
it's a very small it's if the Ravens are the
sixth seed and they go on. So there's a small
chance it happens. But look, it's not perfect, but it's
the way the NFL has it going forward. Now you
want a nice, fun alternate situation. Look, man, we love
my multiverses here. We've celebrated the entirety. Hell, we've been
on air for virtually the entire Marvel University. You're exactly

(21:59):
right about that. We got a big anniversary coming. So,
like I said, this is not perfect. People are gonna complain,
but that's what it is. Okay, So neutral site for
the ANFC title game Bengals and Ravens. They're gonna flip
a coin if they play in the playoffs. What if
this was how they did it instead? So you know
what we're gonna do. We are going to take one
vote from each of the other twenty nine NFL teams

(22:21):
rank these teams one, two, and three, and it's just
like college football, where the rankings coming and that's how
you write. You vote on where you think the teams are.
So the other twenty and nine teams vote who you
think you put the team in one, first, second, and third,
So you don't wind up saying, well, the two teams
split their vote for first place, so everybody's Jets and

(22:43):
Jets writing Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. So you write
these three teams and you rank them and the team
with the most points, right, you know, most first place votes,
second place team with the most points is your conference champion.
Second place team, second place, third place team, and third
is is the is the three seats. That's how you
do it, and that would be an amazing way to

(23:04):
do it. We would argue about it forever, but you
would get at least the other teams who played games
and they know we played, but hey, what team is better?
This is how he doing thin? Why not? Yeah? They
would all they would all have their votes go to
somebody else. They have an intern vote. Hey, listen, you vote.
Just do me a favorite to vote these teams right here.
I got a feeling kind of dig that it's great.
Isn't it just happen? It's out of the box. I mean,

(23:27):
you can put it up on social media if you
want it and just see how the fans would react
to it. Zach Wilson Mike would vote for the Dolphins.
Zach Wilson actually had a pretty good game against the Dolphins. Okay,
he would vote for the Dolphins. Over the Jets because
the Dolphins didn't mention him. Oh well, when when he's
playing for the Dolphins next year, he can figure figure.
Someone was trying to say that McDaniel is gonna get

(23:49):
fired now. I mean, there's lots of stuff. It's we're
gonna trade Zach Wilson for Tua. That's how, Hey, we
trade your problem for our problem. About he is he
hell or high walk? It's it's both. Actually it's both.
It's you're you're in the high water in Hell. That's
that's kind of what it is if you have there.
But I have a feeling if you did that, if
you said, okay, rank the team's Chiefs, Bills, and Bengals,

(24:12):
that's kind of how it would go. Teams would vote.
If you did it that way, it would finish that way.
Chiefs number one, Bills number two, Bengals number three. I
think I think that if you ask those teams, everybody,
all the other twenty nine teams, you vote, the head
coach gets a vote. I would say the head coach,
the head coach. I like that, And see how how
would it come on? You gotta give the Chiefs one,
that's it would go. I just think that's how it

(24:32):
would go for the Chiefs. Well, that's how it always
calls for the Chiefs. Whatever they want, right, So the
but but the other coaches are gonna say, how do
I vote? How good do I think these teams are?
One through three? And I think that's the that's the vote.
How Kansas City down the three? And I'm cool with it.
I listen, I can't. I can't move the Chargers up
to one. I can't. Nobody asking no, no, no, no,
We're all seeing the parenthetical in your head is no no.

(24:58):
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pictures in them. Check out his latest on out Kicks,
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stick with Zach Wilson and only go with one quarterback
next season. Through hell or high water, It's Jason Cole
what's up, j Cole? How did you know that I

(25:39):
was doing that column on Zack Wilson for tomorrow. I
know things. I know things, the Hell or High Water column.
It's Zach Wilson, the Zach Attack, all all Zack Wilson,
all the time. We're betting the entire history of the franchise. Yes,
Zack will turn it around. Well, you can do the

(26:01):
last fifty years. That's not much of a wager. And hey,
not only do we make not only do we make
a mistake by drafting him, We're gonna double down and
say no, we're gonna make it work with him next year.
I can't wait. Then walked into to wear another Sanchez bandana.
That's okay instead of Jimmy Garoppolo will just get Brock party.

(26:23):
It'll be absolutely fine that bandanna better him or John
Oh in the this is in the posts John Way
Tougher Way, and you're also you're also in the Olivia
Newton John mid eighties. Let's get physical phase like when
she went like that, this is not the grease I

(26:46):
still work out to look nicely and the remix that
that she did with Jane Lynch for Glee. Yes, Jase
Nicole walks around saying to strangers, let me hear your
body talk, your body talk, let me hear your body talk.
Get you arrested. It might, it might. I'm just thinking
about that. I don't want to describe what's going on,
just thinking about that. But yeah, go ahead, alright. So hey,

(27:08):
so obviously, Hey, we have big, legit NFL stuff to
talk to you about tonight. With the NFL, it's a
big deal. Man. I'm sorry. I'd love to sit here
and talk about how come hell or high water there
Zach Wilson story is going to be written by Jason Gold,
but we're gonna talk about this for a little bit. Okay,
go ahead. What's what? What's our what's our here? Look,

(27:30):
I know that there's gonna be people who are upset
with the decision. The NFL is not going to play
the game, but the result they have. Hey, if the
Bills are Bengals make it to the a f C
Championship Game, it's gonna be in a neutral site. The
Bengals win the a f C North, But if they
have to play the Ravens in the playoffs, they're gonna
flip a coin. Look, it's not perfect, but it's gonna
be fine. We're all gonna get through this. It's it's

(27:50):
it's going to be fine. It's not the end of
the NFL as we know it. I think that, um, really,
they should suspend the entire season and not continue unless
they can finish that game. That's really that's that's this.
I can't even do it. I can't even make it
that absurd to overplay how dumb it is that people

(28:13):
think that you have to somehow play the Buffalo Cincinnati game,
like everybody just calmed down. Were you surprised, though, J Cole,
because I, I gotta be honest, I was surprised. No,
I wasn't surprised that there's no way to do it,
unless unless you're going to say, we eliminate the bye

(28:35):
week between the championship games and the Super Bowl and
you really push everything back and then one team has
to play that week, and like, how do you do it?
You play him on four, you know, three days, where
I mean you can't, and I mean I just think

(28:55):
you're trying to shoehorn a game in somewhere just for
the sake of getting a result, where okay, you can
you can fix it other ways and in fact, you know,
if you stand the playoffs, or do you do all
the things that you know, talk any of the things
you're talking about, or just how about this, like slip
coins to figure out who might have won these games?

(29:19):
Like you can do this, um, the world will not end.
And in fact, this is what happens. Teams sometimes went
on the road in the playoffs. I know it's shocking
to hear. I know, I know, it's it's you know,
it just goes against the fiber of of all beings
and any sense that anybody can make out of the world.
But occasionally teams went on the road. It does happen

(29:42):
in the playoffs. I've seen it. I've actually seen it happen.
I watched Mark Sanchez win on the road four times
in the playoffs. To think about how absurd that is,
it really does kind of sum it up. And then
that's you know what, as a Jets fan of your age,
that's all you have, that is really that is well
no, no no, well, I well, now let's squeaky on both sides.

(30:11):
That's all you got. I know, I got a lot,
I got a lot, I got a lot. Yeah, you
got really teste verity getting shut out in Denver. That
was terrible. Five turnovers that we had that game. Speak
read a book on that one. I don't need a
book on that game. Yeah, you got, you got, you got,

(30:31):
you got. You know, the toughest quarterback um your entire
you know time there? Who would is it? Ray? Um? Yeah? Sure,
Ray Lucas. He's the toughest you've had. Yeah, Ray Finkel.
We also had Ray Finkel. He missed a couple of
field goals for us. No, that was a dolphin. They

(30:54):
trade him us at the end of his career. Timeline anyway, Yes,
you are You're You're the Jets. Okay, So aside from
a faux seriousness and the faux the faux anger over,
you know, not playing the Buffalo Cincinnati game. Um, what

(31:15):
else have we got here? Well? I thought you would
find it because I'm very I'm actually started this conversation
very upset because I had a huge money making opportunity
that went by the wayside. About twenty minutes ago, Dick
Vital was live tweeting the Lions Packers games being replayed
on NFL Network. He thought it was actually happening tonight.

(31:36):
I got to it too late. I could have bet
him and won all. Yeah, I could have won all
Dick Vital's money. I could have been rich. I have
been so rich, Like I said, I bet this game
Men's fifteen nine, Dicky v what do you want to bet?
Not really tweeting yeah, And then he even said at
the end he said, I'm so sorry. I thought it
was a real game. Give me a turnover. Baby. Was

(31:56):
really funny. He was really funny. Oh my god, it's
the first Thursday without football, ja Cole. I mean, psychologically,
we're all we're all having like the sheiks waiting for
waiting for the Amazon post game. I can't say that
I was waiting for that part. But they had actual
football games. It's gonna be nice, pretty sweet. But a

(32:22):
Michael's go kind of gets stuck doing this. How many
years am I for this contract? Again? Is it worth it?
Is it really worth it for me? I don't know. Money.
Is the money in the account? Exactly? Does the check clear?
I thought, I said in the beginning of the show,
we should play a joke on him and send him, hey,

(32:43):
here's what our schedules looking at for next year for
Thursday night games, and just show him. Yeah, Week one
is going to be the Jets and the Titans. Week
two is the Saints and the Cardinals, and then we
just and then week three we're going back to the
Jets and the Texans. Here's our schedule for today night.
Pay more money for this schedule. Come on, fazos, What

(33:04):
am I doing here? All Jets sporade again? Can you
badge that happening? Mr Michaels, I'm so sorry on this.
We got Panthers commanders in week five, that's gonna be great.
Here's your schedule, We got it all Rams, Cardinals, let's

(33:29):
do it. Then you get out. Would say, you know,
these did look like good games in two thousand and eighteen,
but now in not not, not quite as much. How
do they give me the Cardinals before week seven? Because
Carla Murray may not be bad? Final week is in Indianapolis.

(33:54):
Final week is Bears in Georgia. That's gonna Oh sorry
harmones for you there, Sorry about that? All right, that's
all right. So is Aaron Rodgers getting into the plasts
or what? Yeah? I love this game? Man, Dan Campbell

(34:15):
or Aaron Rodgers. Who are you cheering for in this one? Well?
You either have Dan Campbell. Everybody's hero for hard knocks
and some of the craziness that he's uttered in press conferences.
But we know all of that, and then you've got
your rooting for the anti hero, like you're singing to
Taylor Swifts. Now you want America wants the Lions. America
are Lions. We are all lions this week We're all Lions.

(34:39):
This is the only time in the last sixty years
that that phrase has been uttered America once the Lions,
and back then when they first were talking about it,
it was because of the Wizard of Oz, not because
of Oz. Put them off, put them off. So yeah, look,

(35:01):
Dan Campbell is is the fun He's the fun story.
But do you want to see the Lions in the
playoffs or do you want to see Aaron Rodgers doing
his you know, his Frank Zapp impersonation? Where right, that's

(35:27):
a good pull? I mean really, I mean, look, look
if he does when he does the long hair in
the mustache, he really does look like either Frank Zapper
or there's a little dave girl Sam Elliott from Roadhounds. Yeah,
but Sam Elliott has been like eighty years old for
the last thirty years. That that kind of thing, though,

(35:48):
you don't. Yeah, that's an amazing thing. But you know,
do you want to see Aaron Rodgers play football another week,
even if it's to get labert by whoever they play,
or do you want to see Dan Campbell do something
really nutty? I want the letter. I've seen Aaron Rodgers

(36:10):
play Listen, You've I've seen a lot of Aaron Rodgers
playoff games where hey, he's supposed to play great and
he doesn't. I want to see Jared Goff in a
playoff game because I don't know when that's ever gonna
happen again. Hey, hey, ular the last time in the
Super Bowl? Right or what I mean? You see that again?
I want to another late, late throw that gets knocked

(36:32):
away and costs your team at a Super Bowl title gain.
And don't you know, of course, this game, I'll tell
you right now, I can see this game is gonna
come down to the Lions needing a touchdown, all right,
down four, a fourth down play from the Packers five
yard line with three seconds left. You know that's gonna
come down to a fourth down play for Jared Goff

(36:54):
inside the the throw in and come away with the
hero or does it get knocked down it's a delayed
draw to Barry Sanders, who gets in the end coming
in as a blocking tight end. I've got to make
the playoffs once. I just got to do it. Is

(37:17):
that Wayne Fonts on the sideline? What's going on? Is it?
Isn't it? It's like the thirtieth anniversary when they went
to the NFC Championship game, right, didn't they go in
anyone where they were back where they lost like a
thousand points to one or something. They got into the game,
Jake Cole, come on, what do you want a thousand
to one? Yes, they got a rude album. Mitch Album's

(37:37):
lead and his column was that they were warming up
the buses in the first quarter. Dooil anything like that.
It's it's one of the classic column lads of all time.
They got the seventeen nothing and the Lions were warming
up their busses in the fourth in the first quarter, boy,

(38:00):
so who are you so? Who are you pulling for that?
You threw it out down till I'm pulling for the Lions.
American wants the Lions. You who's gonna win again? I
want crazy Dan Campbell? Okay, even though I want to
see another version of I want to see Aaron Rodgers
pose for a cheek or booty Um album cover right like,

(38:21):
because that's because it's so because he really does look
like Frank Zappa, even though I want that, Okay, I
gotta go with Dan Campbell because I'm cheering for naked
Dan Campbell running down eight miles in the middle of January. Yeah,
that would happen one day. We're going straight in Frank
down at the car Frank. If they make the playoffs,

(38:46):
Dan Campbell can do anything he wants in Detroit, anything anything,
and Jim Campbell could not do in If they make
the playoffs, they'll fire Jim Harbot to hire him at Michigan.
He'll coach both teams at why not it s East.

(39:09):
I could do Michigan on Saturday and I got the
lines on Sunday. It's all good. We'll break their knees off.
You can follow on Twitter at Jason cole sixty two.
Then is that Jason. Don't you believe him when he
says he's that he expects to still, he says he's
expecting to stay. Don't you trust everything that Jim Harbaugh says?

(39:30):
Gobble gobble gobble Turkey, Jad who's got it better than us? No,
who's got it better than us? TCU Yeah, coach, let's
go coach Caroline and look your releav theve team in
the NFL. My god, taking Easyboddy, enjoy the games. We'll
talk to you next week. High Jacole
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