July 6, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Olden Polynice debate if the new NBA In-Season Tournament is a good idea. And on time NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by for all the latest on the Bills, Hard Knocks with the Jets.
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The way tire buying should be op Man. You know,
i'd said, Okay, I wonder if we're gonna have some
big NBA stuff to talk about. We got all kinds
of free agency in boom. Now I have a whole
new tournament to break down the night you're in dooing
the show. All right, all right, we're getting old and
all set up here Fun number eight seven seven ninety
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While Twitter is still going on. The Twitter is still
(01:11):
a thing. Not sure how long it's going to be
a thing. It's kind is still a thing. Threads has
become a thing, blue skies. I think there's lots of
other things. So Twitter is still there. While we go,
we'll break down the big night NBA Summer League. Another
big night from chet who had another big double double
more blocks, We got that coming up later on this hour.
Jason Locking for NFL Insider will stop by as well,
(01:32):
coming up in about twenty minutes to break down all
the drama going on today with the Buffalo Bills and
oh suddenly everything is crazy with Josh Allen and it's
the fun Diggs. It's absolutely nuts. But uh opee, we
got y'all squared away. Now you ready to go.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm ready to go. But all right, man, headphones.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's how we see, that's how works, that's how work.
You know you've done this before. You know, come on, man,
you've done this before.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm just being dumb today.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh hey, come on, I come. I don't don't be
so hard on yourself. I gotta put up with Frostburg
and tight shirt every night. Come on, it's it's that's fine.
Oh sorry, is it too soon for that?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah? Too soon?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Too soon?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, Just so you know, tight shirt yesterday, the last
couple of days filling in, I got Tears for Fears music,
you know, times like yeah, drilling for Dead during the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Still got tears for Fears music. So that war, Yeah, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Really it does. Yeah, it's a tradition like any other.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, yes, that in the Masters. You are correct about that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Uh So, you know, like I was saying, Olden, you know,
we have all this big NBA free acy stuff to
get to. We're gonna get all the breakdown of what's
coming with Harden and potentially Damian Lillard. And now we
got this big NBA in season Tournament's a breakdown. So
you picked a good night.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
To do the show.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh man, every night it's a good night to be on.
So let's do this every night.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The big story today in the NBA is now the
long rumored in season tournament is going to happen this
season and we have the details.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Think about it like this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
If you think about the in season tournament like the
world Cup, it's pretty easy to get It'll take place
on December seventh, or the final four will take place
on December seventh and ninth in Las Vegas. Okay, So
how do we lead up to that? Every team in
the NBA is gonna be put in a group. There's
gonna be six groups, and you're gonna play four games
in group. The winners of the group and the group
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teams of the next best record all get out and
they play to get down to in the knockout stage,
the semifinals and the finals. So if you think about it,
like the World Cup, everybody's in a group. You gotta
get out of group. You also have to have a
You can get out of group without winning your group
if you have a good record. So that's kind of
how the NBA In Season Tournament's going to begin. All
the stats are going to count except for the championship
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game of the event. So everything's in the regular season,
the games count, and the standings. It's this new in
season tournament that takes place late November early December, and
the final is gonna be in Las Vegas. Now, I
know this is very polarizing the way this was announced
on Twitter. I don't think WOJ is anybody any favorites
today with the lack of details on it. But ope,
(04:13):
I don't know. Man, I like this. I love the idea.
I think this is a This is a forward thinking
thing by the NBA. Was because seasons are getting too
long now for many teams who don't have the playoffs
at the end of them. You're seeing regular seasons in
sports get less and less popular as the time goes on,
and not less and less popular, but there's less and
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less emphasis on it.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Look.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Look, stars in the NBA now are only gonna play
sixty sixty five games at most they're gonna have, you know,
they play fifty five to sixty. That's kind of the
average right now. So to have something like this, I
think is a great idea. It's gonna take a little
bit of time to jump in, but this is the
wave of the future. And not only do I think
we're gonna see it in the NBA, but when the
NBA starts succeeding, you'll see it in hockey, You'll see
(04:57):
it in Major League Baseball. This is kind of a
forward thinking thing that is gonna happen. Fans are gonna
jump to it. They're gonna adjust very quickly. It'll be
a pretty big part of the NBA calendar.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I definitely believe that, and I agree it's gonna be fun.
But I'm gonna start doing what WOLJ does. You know,
just announced stuff that I already knew about, you know,
months ago, with no details. That's what I'm gonna start doing.
I mean, okay, known about this. I'm a soccer fan,
so I'm used to this personally. But you know, you
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play and then you play the fend leaves and everything else,
so I get all that. So the NBA is basically
barring from soccer, and I like that. But number one,
we don't care. I mean, unless you tell us it's
a playing we're gonna just assume it's a regular season
game because that's how it's gonna play out. The only
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thing I'm having a problem with is the last two
game stats not counting. That's kind of you know, that's
almost like the playing tournament at the end of the season.
It doesn't count. And so this is regular season, okay,
a regular season in tournament. I believe either all the
games count or none of them count. Okay, you keep
them stepping apart, But that would really mess up what
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they trying to do. So it's kind I think that
was kind of like a compromise. Let's have the last
two games. So I'm looking forward to it. But again,
unless I'm being told specifically, we're not gonna notice a difference.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, here's this is what I really like about it
and what I think the ultimate version of it is. Right,
there's a lot of time. You're a big soccer fan.
You saw Manchester City won the trouble this year, right,
they won the English Premier League, do it?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And there are mid season.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Tournaments that are really big deals and they take place
outside of what's going on in the English Premier League.
Their games that take place outside of it, and people
want to win those championships, like they want to win
the English Premier League. Maybe they want to win the
EPL a little bit more, but they still want to
really win these tournaments that we see. So that's the
vision of this for the NBA is we want to
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have a mid season tournament that teams want to win
just as bad or all right, maybe almost as bad
as winning the NBA title.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I would rather see this be a completely separate from
the NBA completely separate from the regular season. We're gonna
take a break and we're gonna play this tournament. I'd
like it a little bit later in the calendar year,
so maybe after that, you know, they've actually been there
a little bit longer than just a month before they
do this. But if you're telling me a tournament that
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means a lot, that's gonna be extra money for the players,
whatever it's going to be. To make it a big deal,
you gotta make it a big deal. You know, you
put this out here saying, hey, we're gonna do this tournament. Okay,
so how big a deal is it. You got to
tell me and make me believe it's a big deal
and it's a championship and it's more money and whatever.
You're gonna need to sell it because you got to
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sell it right away, and if you do, people are
gonna buy into it and say, Okay, hey, this is
the first chance we have to win a championship. And
if we don't win, okay, we're on to the rest
of the regular season. So I'd rather see this be
by itself, a two week break. Let's just say however
long it's gonna take to play these games and move
on two and a half weeks. It would be fun,
it'd be a fun thing. Let's say my team stinks.
(08:16):
I mean, the Knicks are gonna win the title next year,
so I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Okay about that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But normal years, like if the Knicks aren't good, hey,
we could win this. We can get hot for a
couple of weeks. We could win a couple of games here.
But to make it that way, that seems like that's
been that's the ultimate vision of this. So why not
just make it right away because fans will care about it.
Fans will call we got a tournament middle see, okay, great,
this is awesome. Fans care about Summer League. We're spending
(08:40):
time wondering about chet and when when Biyama's gonna play
in all this stuff, and we over inflate Summer League.
Fans are ready for this. So make it a big thing,
and right away it can be even bigger than you
expected to be the first year.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh definitely. And I agree to that last point. I mean,
I got the game on right now, Sacramento and Miami
and ton of fans in the Sands, and they like it.
They're giving out championship trophies now for some of league champions.
So you're right, go all in or not, you know,
do it like you said, you know, if you're gonna
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take a break, make it separate and apart from the
actual NBA. And so if you got to cut the games,
do it. But you know, just make it separate other part.
You know. We there was a lot of blowback for
the playing tournament. Now people are loving it because it's
a lot more enticing and it gives you something to
play for and outside of the financial aspects, I don't
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see really, you know, what's the difference right now for
this in mid season or in season tournament.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I like the way they're trying to amp up because look,
the NBA is seen and look they have realized this
faster than anybody that. Okay, the impact of the regular
season is dwindling. They put in the play in tournament
a couple of years ago, and right away you saw
it met with kind of a side eye from the NBA.
Some people liked it. I don't like the playing tournament. Now,
(10:06):
where is it two years later? All year from NBA
teams during the season is oh, just make the play
and we're good. Right, You watch the heat go from
the playing tournament to the NBA Finals. So now it's
just just make the planes. Now, it's just be one of.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The top ten teams in.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Each in each conference. Are you really going crazy to
be the number one team to finish with the best
record so you have home court advantage all the way through. Hey,
the Nuggets were the best team this year, number one
team in the West. They made it all the way through.
But is it really that important? You see how teams
are treating the regular season now, stars are playing in
sixty games if they're lucky, they're taking off every one
of the knights of back to backs all the time,
(10:40):
even if they're young and they're able to play.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You're just not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You have seen a downgrade in the importance of how
the regular season is treated. So you need something in
the middle to kind of spark it up a little bit.
And this is one of those sparks.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And the NBA is looking at their calendar right now
and going, okay, so we play a month and a
half or play a little bit over a month. We
have this tournament, we have Chris Day, we have the
the we turn the calendar over, and then a month
and a half after that, we have the All Star
Game in the trade deadline. Then a month and a
half after that we have the playoff start. We you know,
every month and a half or so, every every seventy
(11:14):
five days, we have something that's going to be a
big part of the calendar. So I get that. I
get that the NBA has had the foresight for it,
which is why I like it, because it's gonna you're
seeing that coming to Major League Baseball, come to hockey too,
So I like that. I like the the whole impact
of this. It's just it's not gonna be really difficult
(11:35):
to sell everybody on it. You know, I don't see
this being a very hard thing because even the playing
tournament was something that the players came around to very quickly.
They'll come around to this just as fast. Oh it's
a tournament, it's here. Oh it's extra money. Because I say,
you got to put an extra money, Olden, I'm sure,
I'm sure you would try to get in and try
to play if they put extra money in for this tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I would. I'll get in shape right now. But you
know what I was thinking, you know, because they have
that whole Christmas thing. I would do it. I would
do the final eight teams. I would do it Christmas Day,
so you still keep the traditional games on Christmas Day,
and then a couple of days later you have the chance,
(12:18):
you know whatever, the final four and then the championship,
you know, because they're gonna have to try to figure
it out because they're keeping the chant the Christmas Games,
you know. Now that's a whole different entity. So now
you have four of them, you know, because Christmas games
are very popular right now, So when are you really
gonna have this N season tournament? Then you have all
(12:40):
star games. So the scheduling is what I think's been
hampering them.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh I like that idea.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
See, you should call Adam Silver with that idea, because
that's a great Have the finals be on Christmas Day, right,
have the semifinals b the two days before, and you
have the final, the championship on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Day, something along those lines. Oh, if you want to
keep your Christmas Day games, have have the you know,
eight games, six games whatever it is, four games, you know,
semi finals basically on Christmas Day. You still get all
your games in and then a couple of days later, Oh,
right before New Year's maybe you have the championship.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I like putting all, putting all, like the quarterfinal games
on your see it. You should be working in the end.
You shouldn't be sitting here with me, olden. You should
be in the front office with these ideas.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Hey, man, I've been trying. Man, they keep dissing me.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This aggression will not stand, man.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I mean, I know we might be in the minority,
but I think this is a really good idea and
you're going to see it copycatted and it's not going
to take very long to work out the kinks on
this and this kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's very successful overseas with soccer. I mean it is.
It's amazing how it's done, you know, and it's okay.
You know, it's okay to make change. I don't mind that.
The only thing that gets kind of like off a
little bit are the records, you know, stuff that will
did Oscar right, all those guys back then. But again,
(14:10):
change is inevitable, you know, and so we've seen it
over the years that changes do happen. But I think
as far as like figuring out the stats and the records,
I think that's the only thing that you know, kind
of like hamper the league in trying to fix.
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What's happening, buddy?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm can't complain. I'm sitting here on the deck here
at the Outer Banks little vacation. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Wow, you're watching the TV show Outer Banks. You're actually
on the end.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yes, we're in Colla anyway, Yes, on the never seen
the TV show, but have a vacation here for years,
all right.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
My daughter likes it, so she's a big fan of it.
So anytime shears out of it, it's like, oh, Outer Banks,
Outer Banks. So I think it's one of those shows
where there's like an adult and a teen mystery and
it's got to be solved somehow. And there's hijak, so
I think that's what it is. So if you run
into that down there, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I will keep an eye out most definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
All Right, well, hey, speaking of hijinks, breakdown what's going
on with the Bills here?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Right? We saw this big story.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh boy, Josh Allen had to say, listen, the media
is running too much with the story that that Stefan
Diggs is at odds with the Bills. And after he
had his one day point out of camp or whatever
it was, and he showed up and he says it's
the media's fault and everything is fine? Is everything really fine?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Jay?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, no, I don't think everything's totally fine. I mean
we saw, you know, some of the fon Digg's frustration
boil over, uh, you know, with with how their season ended,
and I think there was even maybe a little flicker
or two of some sideline discontent before that. And then
certainly we continue to see salaries still bonkers at his
(17:24):
position and his contact maybe look a little bit outdated
right now. And then yeah, you have the hold in
or the you sent home or whatever you haveever you
want to quantify. You know, they're they're sort of mini
camp through ha ha. The reality is, I don't think
he's going anywhere, and maybe there are some some things
(17:44):
that could still do to massage that contract a little bit,
to try to smooth it over anymore. I don't know
how you can call it a media creation, like the
coach talked about it in real time, and like pretty
much in that we kind of sort of sent them home.
We don't think it's that big of a deal. But
(18:05):
clearly it was a thing. You can't say it's a
complete nothing burger. You can't say it's not a thing.
I think it's something that you know, jeopardizes their season
or something that you know, a cloud that hangs over them. No,
I think they figured this thing out, but like if
(18:26):
they have a slow start, you know, and there there
is a little bit of friction, like you know, it
might not be a complete and utter utopia. But I
don't think he's going anywhere. I think he's going to
be a hell of a football player for them. And
I think a lot of people are getting a little
over their skis with this talk of like the bill,
you know what, I mean like the Bills are sort
(18:46):
of left that now or the Bills had their chance.
I think they're built a little better than that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
All right, Hey Jason Olden here, Now, you know, at
first I wasn't really liking you because you know you
so you used to be you know what, fan. I
can't believe you went to the Red Sox of all teams.
So I'm gonna give you a pass because now I
know you left them and you went to another team.
(19:13):
So we're not too worried about the Oureas. But my
question to you is this, DeAndre Hopkins Dalvin Cook. What
are we hearing where? You know, what's the landing spot
for these two guys.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, look, they don't. They don't have a robust market.
You know. If they did, and if they were going
to get a contract that they were immediately in love with,
you know, I think it would have already happened. I mean,
we know who they visited with. I don't know anybody
who's looking at you know, in the case of DeAndre Hopkins,
(19:47):
anybody who's looking at the Titans and looking at the
Patriots and saying they're at the vanguard or the forefront
of like what's going on with modern you know, the
modern passing game in the NFL, Like, I don't know
that nobody's looking at those quarterback situations saying I want
to hitch my wag into that. I mean, those teams
don't have big boy passing games. They lack dynamic talent
(20:10):
in the passing game. But you know that's where they've
made their visits, and maybe that's where it goes. You know,
Dalvin Cook, I think it's clear that the money isn't
going to be exactly what he'd probably want in Miami.
I don't know that there's going to be a better
scheme fit though for him ultimately in what they do
(20:32):
the outside zone running game, you know, the sort of
tried and true you take it all the way back
to Alex Gibbs and you know Kyle Shanahan's daddy Mike,
what they were doing in Denver thirty years ago. That
stuff still works and he's built for that, and you know,
outside zone is his bread and butter. So I think
he'd be a potential game breaker in Mike McDaniel's runch game.
(20:56):
But again, I mean we're not playing any football, even
fake football, for another three weeks before you know people
show up for camp, and I don't think these guys
are necessarily like dudes who you're going to see a
whole lot in the preseason anyway, And it could take
an injury early in camp somewhere else for someone to
give them closer to what they're looking for financially. So
(21:16):
I don't think there's any like on either side from
teams or them, any sense that anything's close or anything
has to happen right away.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Jay'son locking for our guest here, the Jason Smith Show,
the Olden Polonies in for Mike Harmon tonight. All right, Jay,
let's head to Hard Knocks now, which is like the
mystery that everybody seems to know. We're just waiting for
the official announcement. We saw Green Bay kind of let
the cat out of the bag this weekend when their
team president says, oh, looking forward to seeing the Jets
on Hard Knocks this year.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I really I get the teams don't want to do
it all.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We don't want the added distraction of the cameras, but
this is not that big a deal. Teams have gone
to the playoffs before when they've done Hard Knocks. I
don't see this as being the oh my goodness, we're
completely throwing this season away by doing hard knocks.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I just don't see it that way.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
No, it's no, it's it's not. It's not the biggest
thing in the world. I mean, look, you know how
football coaches are wired. You know, they're they're they're obsessive,
compulsive maniacs who want to control everything their players do
and think. And I mean not all of them, but
a lot of them. So you can't. You know, it's
(22:24):
hard enough to sort of control what's for the inside.
Then you start bringing in Tamra crew, some NFL films
and this or that, you know, and all of a sudden,
it's it's a little tougher to be, you know, the
megalomaniac sort of dictator that that you ultimately may want
to be, especially you know, it's just so silly, but
I mean, they're worried about what someone's going to see
(22:46):
that they're not supposed to see. And I mean, just
to be a regular media member these days and cover
an NFL like Ota, it's nuts. The stuff that most
of these teams like don't want you to report on it,
don't want you to say that you saw, you know,
so now here. You are all these people from the
outside that you don't know, who aren't regulars in your building,
(23:06):
and you're hoping they're all playing by the rules. And
at the end of the day, is it all much
ado about nothing? Absolutely? Are state secrets going to be leaked?
There is somebody just going to see something they're not
supposed to see. No, But it's just one more set
of variables, right, It's one more set of sort of
uncontrollables that they don't want to deal with, that they'd
much rather one of their competitors have to deal with.
(23:29):
But ultimately, the league thinks it's good for the league, right,
I mean the thirty two billionaires and the commissioner and
his underlings feel like this is good free pr for
the league, right, And so as long as it's getting
at decent ratings, it's not going away. And they created
a kakamane formula to decide who might have to participate
in it and who doesn't have to participate in it.
(23:52):
And yeah, I don't think as many people watch this
as they used to, but I also don't think it's
going away. And if it's the Jets, it's the Jets.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, of course, it's gonna be the Jets. It's Aaron Rodgers.
The camera loves him. Of course it's gonna be the Jets.
He's gonna love it. It's gonna it's gonna be the
only story forging about. Here's here's two defensive backs competing
for the nickel. No, nobody's gonna care about who wins
the nickel. Job there, Hayes, give me Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, here's the say. Robert Salop probably thinks that's terrible.
But do you think Woody Johnson's probably all over like?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think the guy like who's.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Been trying to win the back page forever, right and
competing with the giants through the fall in the winter
for who's in the back you know, the back pages
or the sports tabloids, like, I think he'd be all
over it. I think he'd look at it as an
infomercial for his football team, which is essentially what it is.
And again, when the owners want to do something they
don't think the coaches like, they send them all off
(24:46):
to the golf course and then they hold a vote
and they change the rules on overtime or whatever. So
it ain't a coaches league. It's been in a players league,
it's a billionaires league. And again I think Woody Johnson
would look at this as a pretend some moneymaker and
maybe he sells a few more Aaron Rodgers jerseys. You know,
some obscure dude comes out of nowhere and they us
like the guy everybody's rooting for and every week like
(25:08):
he's gonna make the team. Or you can call up.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
The best part for me about hard access, coach, want
to see you bring your playbook? Yeah, but I had
a question for you now. You know the other day
Steph Clay, Kelsey and Mahomes played in the match, okay,
(25:34):
and apparently players well it was okay for them to
bet on it. And you see where I'm going with this. Yeah,
this whole gambling hypocrisy. You know, what do you make
of this? Because it makes no sense to me.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
No, no it doesn't. But again, these are rules being
made five billionaires who were hypocrites who were taking money
hand over fist and sponsorship deals with these very same entities,
you know, the draft King, Standuel whoever. That they don't
want you know that they want to heavily regulate what
the players can and can't do. In regards to you know,
(26:08):
their own wagers, however small they may be. I mean, look,
the one I guess third rail has always been you
can't bet. You know, it used to be you can't
gamble it off of these guys. You'd walk into an
NFL locker room and if you posted all over place. I mean, now,
clearly they don't want you betting in their facilities any
sort of bets, and they don't want you betting on
(26:29):
you know, football whatsoever. It may take a little more
time for that message to get through, but the world's changed,
and there's too much money out there for these billionaires
to ignore it anymore. So we keep trying to sort
of massage it as it goes along. But ultimately I
think maybe we do reach a point in time where
(26:52):
what the players, what's asked to the players is the
same as sort of what's asked to the coaches, which
is they just don't want them betting on any professional
sports whatsoever. Now, whether that you know what you're referring to,
whether you want to consider that a professional sport or not,
you know, I think probably remains to be seen. I mean,
it's kind of like a one off. I don't know,
freak show kind of a thing, so, but you get
(27:14):
better on anything these days, So I don't I'd be
lying if I told you I had to figure out
or I know where it's all going. I also don't
think the sports lease themselves necessarily know where it's going either.
But you know, there's a lot of dudes whose careers
have been lost already or they might not get a
second to third chance, especially when they're not a superstar,
(27:34):
And I think that starts to resonate more than anything else.
I think, you know, guys look at the ramifications and decide,
you know, whether it makes sense to fire off that
five dollars parlay better or not.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Lastly, Jay, I look, I know, I know you're close
to this, and everywhere I look it's Lamar Jackson's going
to throw fifty touchdowns this year. He's got eleven receivers
who were going to get the thousand yard season. It's
going to be the greatest season ever. Are you buying
into that hype with the new offense, new everything and
the new players in or is this just hey, it's
early and it's kind of the honeymoon period.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you know, can he
throw for four thousand yards forty two hundred yards something
like that, maybe even forty five. Yes, I think he can.
He can be in that range. Do I think he
could average two passing touchdowns a game? You know? Do
I think if he's going to end up playing and
let's say doesn't play in every game he plays in
(28:30):
fifteen or sixteen, you know, is he in the low
thirties and touchdown passes? I do? You know? Is he
going back from twelve hundred yards rushing recalibrating to like
seven fifty or something like that. I also think that's
in the cards, you know, And yeah, could he could he?
I think for me, like the total number, I'm focused
on his forty. Can he account for forty touchdowns or
(28:52):
close to it passing and rushing? You know? Is he
throwing for thirty four and running for another five or six?
I think it's that sort of efficiency. You know, what
does he look like in the red zone? I don't
think they're going to be up there with the Bengals
or you know, some of these teams in terms of
how prolific the offense is in terms of yardage. I
think they're still going to be relatively balanced. But I
(29:12):
think his individual passing yards will should go up, and
I think his rushing yards should go down.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason lock and four.
That's at Jason lock and for Odyssey Washington Post. Jay
as always, buddy, whether you are from the Inner or
outer Banks, Thank you very much for your time and
enjoy the week.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
We'll talk to you next week.
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You guys are the same. Thank you all right?
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Speaker 1 (30:39):
Alright, O, Pete le let me hit you with this
here tonight another book. Summer League tonight. UH Friday's game
already sold out. Victor Wembin Yama's first game for the Spurs,
Chet Holmgren tonight, another big night for Oklahoma City. Thirty
one minutes, ten points, eleven boards, three more blocks, two
steals and assist. Uh didn't hit a three, but you know,
(31:00):
not for lack of taking them. He took four. These
are the two most electric young players in the game.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
We haven't seen Check because he missed all last year
with a foot injury. And when Been Yama were waiting for,
I'm gonna hit you with something and I know takes
you back to when you played. And I want to
tell them if you like this idea. These guys mean
so much, not only to the league, to their teams.
Of course, you have questions about their physical stature. They're
(31:27):
going to need some time to get used to the
pounding of the NBA. The only question about wehm beIN
Yama and chet Holmgren aar are they going to withstand
the rigors of playing every other night, the travel, banging,
going up and down the floor. You don't want them
to fall into the situation where they're Zion. They can't
stay on the court because physically they can't do it.
Zion's too heavy, you know, these guys are too light,
(31:49):
or a situation like Greg Odin where.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You just can't withstand the pounding.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
The NBA and the Bulls did this with Michael Jordan
when he came back from his broken foot in his
second year in the league.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
He gave a very strict minutes.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Restriction form where he's playing six minutes a night, and
then he would get to play six and a half
minutes a night, and then it was six minutes and
forty five seconds a night. I think you have to
do that with home Grin and with wem Ben Yama
this year. You need to make sure these guys play
a strict minutes every single night so they can play
sixty sixty five.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Games, right.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I thought it with Wembin Yama, and I'm seeing the
same thing with Chet Holmgren. It doesn't matter. These teams
aren't gonna win the title this year, but maybe they
could be title contenders in a couple of years when
these guys bodies mature and they can get used to
the pounding. I would say the magic number would be
twenty minutes a night to start the season for these guys.
Ten minutes in the first half, ten and the second half,
and that's what it's gonna be. Then you can slowly
(32:43):
upticket a little bit, but I wouldn't get much past
twenty five minutes a night for either of these guys
all season, just because you want them to make it
through healthy and get their bodies used to what it's
going to be like for them for the next ten
to twelve years.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Okay, you wear my wheelhouse now, all right? All right.
Number one Michael Jordan is was will always be Michael Jordan,
so you cannot use him as the barometer. Number two.
Two different body types than Michael Jordan, so he can
come back and play. And I don't think Michael ever had,
(33:20):
you know, had another injury, major injury after that broken foot,
and that was something totally different, you know, So but it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Was still taking it, but it was still hey, understanding,
let's not put him that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
We already have load management. We already have load management. Okay,
now you're saying, then these guys need to go to
the G League, stay in school or something else. You're
signing to with the big boys, and so you better
be ready. And that's the problem. A lot of these
guys are not ready physically, and that's the elephant in
(33:56):
the room that nobody wants to talk about. The NBA
is trying to get as much as they can get
out of these kids, you know, so they bring im
at eighteen because I get more more out of you.
I get an extra three to four years, you know,
of work, so to speak out of you. And so
that's the problem. I watched chet Holmen get hurt in
(34:17):
that Summer League last year when Lebron made a move.
It wasn't a big hit, but his body was not
used to banging into somebody like a Lebron James. That's
why I don't like Summer League because it's just big aau.
It's not like you're playing against guys that have eight, ten,
twelve years of experience in the NBA. You're not going
(34:38):
up against Giannis and Joker and those guys, So you're
still gonna have issues. Listen to what you said when
in the intro Chack Holmgrom had a big game thirty
one minutes, ten points, ten points in the summer league.
That's not a big game. That's a bad game.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He had eleven boards and six blocks.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's what I don't care. Haha, I don't care. He's
seven to three, he should have six blocks. I'm not
buying all this. Everybody already knows how I feel about it.
These guys are not ready. I'm sorry. The one guy
that was ready is his name Lebron whatever his middle
(35:18):
name is, I forgot it, James Lemon, I think Lamon something,
whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
It's Lakers now.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Lebron's the only guy that came in ready to play.
You know. One last thing all you gotta do is
think Anthony Bennett. Remember him number one pick with Cleveland,
had a great summer league, and what happened to him?
All that it's Raymond Raymond, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I thought it was Lakers. I thought it was like Raymond.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
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big NBA stuff to talk about. We got all kinds
of free agency in boom. Now I have a whole
new tournament to break down the night you're in dooing
the show. All right, all right, we're getting old and
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While Twitter is still going on. The Twitter is still
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a thing. Not sure how long it's going to be
a thing. It's kind is still a thing. Threads has
become a thing, blue skies. I think there's lots of
other things. So Twitter is still there. While we go,
we'll break down the big night NBA Summer League. Another
big night from chet who had another big double double
more blocks, We got that coming up later on this hour.
Jason Locking for NFL Insider will stop by as well,
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coming up in about twenty minutes to break down all
the drama going on today with the Buffalo Bills and
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the fun Diggs. It's absolutely nuts. But uh opee, we
got y'all squared away. Now you ready to go.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm ready to go. But all right, man, headphones.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
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You know you've done this before. You know, come on, man,
you've done this before.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm just being dumb today.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh hey, come on, I come. I don't don't be
so hard on yourself. I gotta put up with Frostburg
and tight shirt every night. Come on, it's it's that's fine.
Oh sorry, is it too soon for that?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah? Too soon?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Too soon?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, Just so you know, tight shirt yesterday, the last
couple of days filling in, I got Tears for Fears music,
you know, times like yeah, drilling for Dead during the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Still got tears for Fears music. So that war, Yeah, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Really it does. Yeah, it's a tradition like any other.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, yes, that in the Masters. You are correct about that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Uh So, you know, like I was saying, Olden, you know,
we have all this big NBA free acy stuff to
get to. We're gonna get all the breakdown of what's
coming with Harden and potentially Damian Lillard. And now we
got this big NBA in season Tournament's a breakdown. So
you picked a good night.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
To do the show.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh man, every night it's a good night to be on.
So let's do this every night.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The big story today in the NBA is now the
long rumored in season tournament is going to happen this
season and we have the details.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Think about it like this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
If you think about the in season tournament like the
world Cup, it's pretty easy to get It'll take place
on December seventh, or the final four will take place
on December seventh and ninth in Las Vegas. Okay, So
how do we lead up to that? Every team in
the NBA is gonna be put in a group. There's
gonna be six groups, and you're gonna play four games
in group. The winners of the group and the group
(03:28):
teams of the next best record all get out and
they play to get down to in the knockout stage,
the semifinals and the finals. So if you think about it,
like the World Cup, everybody's in a group. You gotta
get out of group. You also have to have a
You can get out of group without winning your group
if you have a good record. So that's kind of
how the NBA In Season Tournament's going to begin. All
the stats are going to count except for the championship
(03:51):
game of the event. So everything's in the regular season,
the games count, and the standings. It's this new in
season tournament that takes place late November early December, and
the final is gonna be in Las Vegas. Now, I
know this is very polarizing the way this was announced
on Twitter. I don't think WOJ is anybody any favorites
today with the lack of details on it. But ope,
(04:13):
I don't know. Man, I like this. I love the idea.
I think this is a This is a forward thinking
thing by the NBA. Was because seasons are getting too
long now for many teams who don't have the playoffs
at the end of them. You're seeing regular seasons in
sports get less and less popular as the time goes on,
and not less and less popular, but there's less and
(04:34):
less emphasis on it.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Look.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Look, stars in the NBA now are only gonna play
sixty sixty five games at most they're gonna have, you know,
they play fifty five to sixty. That's kind of the
average right now. So to have something like this, I
think is a great idea. It's gonna take a little
bit of time to jump in, but this is the
wave of the future. And not only do I think
we're gonna see it in the NBA, but when the
NBA starts succeeding, you'll see it in hockey, You'll see
(04:57):
it in Major League Baseball. This is kind of a
forward thinking thing that is gonna happen. Fans are gonna
jump to it. They're gonna adjust very quickly. It'll be
a pretty big part of the NBA calendar.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I definitely believe that, and I agree it's gonna be fun.
But I'm gonna start doing what WOLJ does. You know,
just announced stuff that I already knew about, you know,
months ago, with no details. That's what I'm gonna start doing.
I mean, okay, known about this. I'm a soccer fan,
so I'm used to this personally. But you know, you
(05:29):
play and then you play the fend leaves and everything else,
so I get all that. So the NBA is basically
barring from soccer, and I like that. But number one,
we don't care. I mean, unless you tell us it's
a playing we're gonna just assume it's a regular season
game because that's how it's gonna play out. The only
(05:50):
thing I'm having a problem with is the last two
game stats not counting. That's kind of you know, that's
almost like the playing tournament at the end of the season.
It doesn't count. And so this is regular season, okay,
a regular season in tournament. I believe either all the
games count or none of them count. Okay, you keep
them stepping apart, But that would really mess up what
(06:12):
they trying to do. So it's kind I think that
was kind of like a compromise. Let's have the last
two games. So I'm looking forward to it. But again,
unless I'm being told specifically, we're not gonna notice a difference.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, here's this is what I really like about it
and what I think the ultimate version of it is. Right,
there's a lot of time. You're a big soccer fan.
You saw Manchester City won the trouble this year, right,
they won the English Premier League, do it?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And there are mid season.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Tournaments that are really big deals and they take place
outside of what's going on in the English Premier League.
Their games that take place outside of it, and people
want to win those championships, like they want to win
the English Premier League. Maybe they want to win the
EPL a little bit more, but they still want to
really win these tournaments that we see. So that's the
vision of this for the NBA is we want to
(07:04):
have a mid season tournament that teams want to win
just as bad or all right, maybe almost as bad
as winning the NBA title.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I would rather see this be a completely separate from
the NBA completely separate from the regular season. We're gonna
take a break and we're gonna play this tournament. I'd
like it a little bit later in the calendar year,
so maybe after that, you know, they've actually been there
a little bit longer than just a month before they
do this. But if you're telling me a tournament that
(07:34):
means a lot, that's gonna be extra money for the players,
whatever it's going to be. To make it a big deal,
you gotta make it a big deal. You know, you
put this out here saying, hey, we're gonna do this tournament. Okay,
so how big a deal is it. You got to
tell me and make me believe it's a big deal
and it's a championship and it's more money and whatever.
You're gonna need to sell it because you got to
(07:55):
sell it right away, and if you do, people are
gonna buy into it and say, Okay, hey, this is
the first chance we have to win a championship. And
if we don't win, okay, we're on to the rest
of the regular season. So I'd rather see this be
by itself, a two week break. Let's just say however
long it's gonna take to play these games and move
on two and a half weeks. It would be fun,
it'd be a fun thing. Let's say my team stinks.
(08:16):
I mean, the Knicks are gonna win the title next year,
so I'm feeling.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Okay about that.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But normal years, like if the Knicks aren't good, hey,
we could win this. We can get hot for a
couple of weeks. We could win a couple of games here.
But to make it that way, that seems like that's
been that's the ultimate vision of this. So why not
just make it right away because fans will care about it.
Fans will call we got a tournament middle see, okay, great,
this is awesome. Fans care about Summer League. We're spending
(08:40):
time wondering about chet and when when Biyama's gonna play
in all this stuff, and we over inflate Summer League.
Fans are ready for this. So make it a big thing,
and right away it can be even bigger than you
expected to be the first year.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh definitely. And I agree to that last point. I mean,
I got the game on right now, Sacramento and Miami
and ton of fans in the Sands, and they like it.
They're giving out championship trophies now for some of league champions.
So you're right, go all in or not, you know,
do it like you said, you know, if you're gonna
(09:13):
take a break, make it separate and apart from the
actual NBA. And so if you got to cut the games,
do it. But you know, just make it separate other part.
You know. We there was a lot of blowback for
the playing tournament. Now people are loving it because it's
a lot more enticing and it gives you something to
play for and outside of the financial aspects, I don't
(09:37):
see really, you know, what's the difference right now for
this in mid season or in season tournament.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I like the way they're trying to amp up because look,
the NBA is seen and look they have realized this
faster than anybody that. Okay, the impact of the regular
season is dwindling. They put in the play in tournament
a couple of years ago, and right away you saw
it met with kind of a side eye from the NBA.
Some people liked it. I don't like the playing tournament. Now,
(10:06):
where is it two years later? All year from NBA
teams during the season is oh, just make the play
and we're good. Right, You watch the heat go from
the playing tournament to the NBA Finals. So now it's
just just make the planes. Now, it's just be one of.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
The top ten teams in.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Each in each conference. Are you really going crazy to
be the number one team to finish with the best
record so you have home court advantage all the way through. Hey,
the Nuggets were the best team this year, number one
team in the West. They made it all the way through.
But is it really that important? You see how teams
are treating the regular season now, stars are playing in
sixty games if they're lucky, they're taking off every one
of the knights of back to backs all the time,
(10:40):
even if they're young and they're able to play.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
You're just not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You have seen a downgrade in the importance of how
the regular season is treated. So you need something in
the middle to kind of spark it up a little bit.
And this is one of those sparks.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And the NBA is looking at their calendar right now
and going, okay, so we play a month and a
half or play a little bit over a month. We
have this tournament, we have Chris Day, we have the
the we turn the calendar over, and then a month
and a half after that, we have the All Star
Game in the trade deadline. Then a month and a
half after that we have the playoff start. We you know,
every month and a half or so, every every seventy
(11:14):
five days, we have something that's going to be a
big part of the calendar. So I get that. I
get that the NBA has had the foresight for it,
which is why I like it, because it's gonna you're
seeing that coming to Major League Baseball, come to hockey too,
So I like that. I like the the whole impact
of this. It's just it's not gonna be really difficult
(11:35):
to sell everybody on it. You know, I don't see
this being a very hard thing because even the playing
tournament was something that the players came around to very quickly.
They'll come around to this just as fast. Oh it's
a tournament, it's here. Oh it's extra money. Because I say,
you got to put an extra money, Olden, I'm sure,
I'm sure you would try to get in and try
to play if they put extra money in for this tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I would. I'll get in shape right now. But you
know what I was thinking, you know, because they have
that whole Christmas thing. I would do it. I would
do the final eight teams. I would do it Christmas Day,
so you still keep the traditional games on Christmas Day,
and then a couple of days later you have the chance,
(12:18):
you know whatever, the final four and then the championship,
you know, because they're gonna have to try to figure
it out because they're keeping the chant the Christmas Games,
you know. Now that's a whole different entity. So now
you have four of them, you know, because Christmas games
are very popular right now, So when are you really
gonna have this N season tournament? Then you have all
(12:40):
star games. So the scheduling is what I think's been
hampering them.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh I like that idea.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
See, you should call Adam Silver with that idea, because
that's a great Have the finals be on Christmas Day, right,
have the semifinals b the two days before, and you
have the final, the championship on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Day, something along those lines. Oh, if you want to
keep your Christmas Day games, have have the you know,
eight games, six games whatever it is, four games, you know,
semi finals basically on Christmas Day. You still get all
your games in and then a couple of days later, Oh,
right before New Year's maybe you have the championship.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I like putting all, putting all, like the quarterfinal games
on your see it. You should be working in the end.
You shouldn't be sitting here with me, olden. You should
be in the front office with these ideas.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Hey, man, I've been trying. Man, they keep dissing me.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This aggression will not stand, man.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I mean, I know we might be in the minority,
but I think this is a really good idea and
you're going to see it copycatted and it's not going
to take very long to work out the kinks on
this and this kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's very successful overseas with soccer. I mean it is.
It's amazing how it's done, you know, and it's okay.
You know, it's okay to make change. I don't mind that.
The only thing that gets kind of like off a
little bit are the records, you know, stuff that will
did Oscar right, all those guys back then. But again,
(14:10):
change is inevitable, you know, and so we've seen it
over the years that changes do happen. But I think
as far as like figuring out the stats and the records,
I think that's the only thing that you know, kind
of like hamper the league in trying to fix.
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What's happening, buddy?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I'm can't complain. I'm sitting here on the deck here
at the Outer Banks little vacation. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Wow, you're watching the TV show Outer Banks. You're actually
on the end.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yes, we're in Colla anyway, Yes, on the never seen
the TV show, but have a vacation here for years,
all right.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
My daughter likes it, so she's a big fan of it.
So anytime shears out of it, it's like, oh, Outer Banks,
Outer Banks. So I think it's one of those shows
where there's like an adult and a teen mystery and
it's got to be solved somehow. And there's hijak, so
I think that's what it is. So if you run
into that down there, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I will keep an eye out most definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
All Right, well, hey, speaking of hijinks, breakdown what's going
on with the Bills here?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Right? We saw this big story.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh boy, Josh Allen had to say, listen, the media
is running too much with the story that that Stefan
Diggs is at odds with the Bills. And after he
had his one day point out of camp or whatever
it was, and he showed up and he says it's
the media's fault and everything is fine? Is everything really fine?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Jay?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, no, I don't think everything's totally fine. I mean
we saw, you know, some of the fon Digg's frustration
boil over, uh, you know, with with how their season ended,
and I think there was even maybe a little flicker
or two of some sideline discontent before that. And then
certainly we continue to see salaries still bonkers at his
(17:24):
position and his contact maybe look a little bit outdated
right now. And then yeah, you have the hold in
or the you sent home or whatever you haveever you
want to quantify. You know, they're they're sort of mini
camp through ha ha. The reality is, I don't think
he's going anywhere, and maybe there are some some things
(17:44):
that could still do to massage that contract a little bit,
to try to smooth it over anymore. I don't know
how you can call it a media creation, like the
coach talked about it in real time, and like pretty
much in that we kind of sort of sent them home.
We don't think it's that big of a deal. But
(18:05):
clearly it was a thing. You can't say it's a
complete nothing burger. You can't say it's not a thing.
I think it's something that you know, jeopardizes their season
or something that you know, a cloud that hangs over them. No,
I think they figured this thing out, but like if
(18:26):
they have a slow start, you know, and there there
is a little bit of friction, like you know, it
might not be a complete and utter utopia. But I
don't think he's going anywhere. I think he's going to
be a hell of a football player for them. And
I think a lot of people are getting a little
over their skis with this talk of like the bill,
you know what, I mean like the Bills are sort
(18:46):
of left that now or the Bills had their chance.
I think they're built a little better than that.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
All right, Hey Jason Olden here, Now, you know, at
first I wasn't really liking you because you know you
so you used to be you know what, fan. I
can't believe you went to the Red Sox of all teams.
So I'm gonna give you a pass because now I
know you left them and you went to another team.
(19:13):
So we're not too worried about the Oureas. But my
question to you is this, DeAndre Hopkins Dalvin Cook. What
are we hearing where? You know, what's the landing spot
for these two guys.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, look, they don't. They don't have a robust market.
You know. If they did, and if they were going
to get a contract that they were immediately in love with,
you know, I think it would have already happened. I mean,
we know who they visited with. I don't know anybody
who's looking at you know, in the case of DeAndre Hopkins,
(19:47):
anybody who's looking at the Titans and looking at the
Patriots and saying they're at the vanguard or the forefront
of like what's going on with modern you know, the
modern passing game in the NFL, Like, I don't know
that nobody's looking at those quarterback situations saying I want
to hitch my wag into that. I mean, those teams
don't have big boy passing games. They lack dynamic talent
(20:10):
in the passing game. But you know that's where they've
made their visits, and maybe that's where it goes. You know,
Dalvin Cook, I think it's clear that the money isn't
going to be exactly what he'd probably want in Miami.
I don't know that there's going to be a better
scheme fit though for him ultimately in what they do
(20:32):
the outside zone running game, you know, the sort of
tried and true you take it all the way back
to Alex Gibbs and you know Kyle Shanahan's daddy Mike,
what they were doing in Denver thirty years ago. That
stuff still works and he's built for that, and you know,
outside zone is his bread and butter. So I think
he'd be a potential game breaker in Mike McDaniel's runch game.
(20:56):
But again, I mean we're not playing any football, even
fake football, for another three weeks before you know people
show up for camp, and I don't think these guys
are necessarily like dudes who you're going to see a
whole lot in the preseason anyway, And it could take
an injury early in camp somewhere else for someone to
give them closer to what they're looking for financially. So
(21:16):
I don't think there's any like on either side from
teams or them, any sense that anything's close or anything
has to happen right away.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Jay'son locking for our guest here, the Jason Smith Show,
the Olden Polonies in for Mike Harmon tonight. All right, Jay,
let's head to Hard Knocks now, which is like the
mystery that everybody seems to know. We're just waiting for
the official announcement. We saw Green Bay kind of let
the cat out of the bag this weekend when their
team president says, oh, looking forward to seeing the Jets
on Hard Knocks this year.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I really I get the teams don't want to do
it all.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We don't want the added distraction of the cameras, but
this is not that big a deal. Teams have gone
to the playoffs before when they've done Hard Knocks. I
don't see this as being the oh my goodness, we're
completely throwing this season away by doing hard knocks.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I just don't see it that way.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
No, it's no, it's it's not. It's not the biggest
thing in the world. I mean, look, you know how
football coaches are wired. You know, they're they're they're obsessive,
compulsive maniacs who want to control everything their players do
and think. And I mean not all of them, but
a lot of them. So you can't. You know, it's
(22:24):
hard enough to sort of control what's for the inside.
Then you start bringing in Tamra crew, some NFL films
and this or that, you know, and all of a sudden,
it's it's a little tougher to be, you know, the
megalomaniac sort of dictator that that you ultimately may want
to be, especially you know, it's just so silly, but
I mean, they're worried about what someone's going to see
(22:46):
that they're not supposed to see. And I mean, just
to be a regular media member these days and cover
an NFL like Ota, it's nuts. The stuff that most
of these teams like don't want you to report on it,
don't want you to say that you saw, you know,
so now here. You are all these people from the
outside that you don't know, who aren't regulars in your building,
(23:06):
and you're hoping they're all playing by the rules. And
at the end of the day, is it all much
ado about nothing? Absolutely? Are state secrets going to be leaked?
There is somebody just going to see something they're not
supposed to see. No, But it's just one more set
of variables, right, It's one more set of sort of
uncontrollables that they don't want to deal with, that they'd
much rather one of their competitors have to deal with.
(23:29):
But ultimately, the league thinks it's good for the league, right,
I mean the thirty two billionaires and the commissioner and
his underlings feel like this is good free pr for
the league, right, And so as long as it's getting
at decent ratings, it's not going away. And they created
a kakamane formula to decide who might have to participate
in it and who doesn't have to participate in it.
(23:52):
And yeah, I don't think as many people watch this
as they used to, but I also don't think it's
going away. And if it's the Jets, it's the Jets.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, of course, it's gonna be the Jets. It's Aaron Rodgers.
The camera loves him. Of course it's gonna be the Jets.
He's gonna love it. It's gonna it's gonna be the
only story forging about. Here's here's two defensive backs competing
for the nickel. No, nobody's gonna care about who wins
the nickel. Job there, Hayes, give me Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, here's the say. Robert Salop probably thinks that's terrible.
But do you think Woody Johnson's probably all over like?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think the guy like who's.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Been trying to win the back page forever, right and
competing with the giants through the fall in the winter
for who's in the back you know, the back pages
or the sports tabloids, like, I think he'd be all
over it. I think he'd look at it as an
infomercial for his football team, which is essentially what it is.
And again, when the owners want to do something they
don't think the coaches like, they send them all off
(24:46):
to the golf course and then they hold a vote
and they change the rules on overtime or whatever. So
it ain't a coaches league. It's been in a players league,
it's a billionaires league. And again I think Woody Johnson
would look at this as a pretend some moneymaker and
maybe he sells a few more Aaron Rodgers jerseys. You know,
some obscure dude comes out of nowhere and they us
like the guy everybody's rooting for and every week like
(25:08):
he's gonna make the team. Or you can call up.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
The best part for me about hard access, coach, want
to see you bring your playbook? Yeah, but I had
a question for you now. You know the other day
Steph Clay, Kelsey and Mahomes played in the match, okay,
(25:34):
and apparently players well it was okay for them to
bet on it. And you see where I'm going with this. Yeah,
this whole gambling hypocrisy. You know, what do you make
of this? Because it makes no sense to me.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
No, no it doesn't. But again, these are rules being
made five billionaires who were hypocrites who were taking money
hand over fist and sponsorship deals with these very same entities,
you know, the draft King, Standuel whoever. That they don't
want you know that they want to heavily regulate what
the players can and can't do. In regards to you know,
(26:08):
their own wagers, however small they may be. I mean, look,
the one I guess third rail has always been you
can't bet. You know, it used to be you can't
gamble it off of these guys. You'd walk into an
NFL locker room and if you posted all over place. I mean, now,
clearly they don't want you betting in their facilities any
sort of bets, and they don't want you betting on
(26:29):
you know, football whatsoever. It may take a little more
time for that message to get through, but the world's changed,
and there's too much money out there for these billionaires
to ignore it anymore. So we keep trying to sort
of massage it as it goes along. But ultimately I
think maybe we do reach a point in time where
(26:52):
what the players, what's asked to the players is the
same as sort of what's asked to the coaches, which
is they just don't want them betting on any professional
sports whatsoever. Now, whether that you know what you're referring to,
whether you want to consider that a professional sport or not,
you know, I think probably remains to be seen. I mean,
it's kind of like a one off. I don't know,
freak show kind of a thing, so, but you get
(27:14):
better on anything these days, So I don't I'd be
lying if I told you I had to figure out
or I know where it's all going. I also don't
think the sports lease themselves necessarily know where it's going either.
But you know, there's a lot of dudes whose careers
have been lost already or they might not get a
second to third chance, especially when they're not a superstar,
(27:34):
And I think that starts to resonate more than anything else.
I think, you know, guys look at the ramifications and decide,
you know, whether it makes sense to fire off that
five dollars parlay better or not.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Lastly, Jay, I look, I know, I know you're close
to this, and everywhere I look it's Lamar Jackson's going
to throw fifty touchdowns this year. He's got eleven receivers
who were going to get the thousand yard season. It's
going to be the greatest season ever. Are you buying
into that hype with the new offense, new everything and
the new players in or is this just hey, it's
early and it's kind of the honeymoon period.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you know, can he
throw for four thousand yards forty two hundred yards something
like that, maybe even forty five. Yes, I think he can.
He can be in that range. Do I think he
could average two passing touchdowns a game? You know? Do
I think if he's going to end up playing and
let's say doesn't play in every game he plays in
(28:30):
fifteen or sixteen, you know, is he in the low
thirties and touchdown passes? I do? You know? Is he
going back from twelve hundred yards rushing recalibrating to like
seven fifty or something like that. I also think that's
in the cards, you know, And yeah, could he could he?
I think for me, like the total number, I'm focused
on his forty. Can he account for forty touchdowns or
(28:52):
close to it passing and rushing? You know? Is he
throwing for thirty four and running for another five or six?
I think it's that sort of efficiency. You know, what
does he look like in the red zone? I don't
think they're going to be up there with the Bengals
or you know, some of these teams in terms of
how prolific the offense is in terms of yardage. I
think they're still going to be relatively balanced. But I
(29:12):
think his individual passing yards will should go up, and
I think his rushing yards should go down.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason lock and four.
That's at Jason lock and for Odyssey Washington Post. Jay
as always, buddy, whether you are from the Inner or
outer Banks, Thank you very much for your time and
enjoy the week.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
You guys are the same. Thank you all right?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
All right than Michael r V, boat A TV and more.
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Speaker 2 (29:40):
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Speaker 1 (29:49):
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me you like this song? God Olden jamming yo.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
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Speaker 2 (30:18):
Slash Matt Jason ahead and tell holding your take about
this song and band.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
All these songs are depressing. I'm not going to see
them in concerts depressing. I never want to hear these
songs again.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
I never do.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Body wants to rule the world state, Oh boy, everybody
wants to rule away facts?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Alright, O, Pete le let me hit you with this
here tonight another book. Summer League tonight. UH Friday's game
already sold out. Victor Wembin Yama's first game for the Spurs,
Chet Holmgren tonight, another big night for Oklahoma City. Thirty
one minutes, ten points, eleven boards, three more blocks, two
steals and assist. Uh didn't hit a three, but you know,
(31:00):
not for lack of taking them. He took four. These
are the two most electric young players in the game.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
We haven't seen Check because he missed all last year
with a foot injury. And when Been Yama were waiting for,
I'm gonna hit you with something and I know takes
you back to when you played. And I want to
tell them if you like this idea. These guys mean
so much, not only to the league, to their teams.
Of course, you have questions about their physical stature. They're
(31:27):
going to need some time to get used to the
pounding of the NBA. The only question about wehm beIN
Yama and chet Holmgren aar are they going to withstand
the rigors of playing every other night, the travel, banging,
going up and down the floor. You don't want them
to fall into the situation where they're Zion. They can't
stay on the court because physically they can't do it.
Zion's too heavy, you know, these guys are too light,
(31:49):
or a situation like Greg Odin where.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You just can't withstand the pounding.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
The NBA and the Bulls did this with Michael Jordan
when he came back from his broken foot in his
second year in the league.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
He gave a very strict minutes.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Restriction form where he's playing six minutes a night, and
then he would get to play six and a half
minutes a night, and then it was six minutes and
forty five seconds a night. I think you have to
do that with home Grin and with wem Ben Yama
this year. You need to make sure these guys play
a strict minutes every single night so they can play
sixty sixty five.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Games, right.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I thought it with Wembin Yama, and I'm seeing the
same thing with Chet Holmgren. It doesn't matter. These teams
aren't gonna win the title this year, but maybe they
could be title contenders in a couple of years when
these guys bodies mature and they can get used to
the pounding. I would say the magic number would be
twenty minutes a night to start the season for these guys.
Ten minutes in the first half, ten and the second half,
and that's what it's gonna be. Then you can slowly
(32:43):
upticket a little bit, but I wouldn't get much past
twenty five minutes a night for either of these guys
all season, just because you want them to make it
through healthy and get their bodies used to what it's
going to be like for them for the next ten
to twelve years.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Okay, you wear my wheelhouse now, all right? All right.
Number one Michael Jordan is was will always be Michael Jordan,
so you cannot use him as the barometer. Number two.
Two different body types than Michael Jordan, so he can
come back and play. And I don't think Michael ever had,
(33:20):
you know, had another injury, major injury after that broken foot,
and that was something totally different, you know, So but it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Was still taking it, but it was still hey, understanding,
let's not put him that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
We already have load management. We already have load management. Okay,
now you're saying, then these guys need to go to
the G League, stay in school or something else. You're
signing to with the big boys, and so you better
be ready. And that's the problem. A lot of these
guys are not ready physically, and that's the elephant in
(33:56):
the room that nobody wants to talk about. The NBA
is trying to get as much as they can get
out of these kids, you know, so they bring im
at eighteen because I get more more out of you.
I get an extra three to four years, you know,
of work, so to speak out of you. And so
that's the problem. I watched chet Holmen get hurt in
(34:17):
that Summer League last year when Lebron made a move.
It wasn't a big hit, but his body was not
used to banging into somebody like a Lebron James. That's
why I don't like Summer League because it's just big aau.
It's not like you're playing against guys that have eight, ten,
twelve years of experience in the NBA. You're not going
(34:38):
up against Giannis and Joker and those guys, So you're
still gonna have issues. Listen to what you said when
in the intro Chack Holmgrom had a big game thirty
one minutes, ten points, ten points in the summer league.
That's not a big game. That's a bad game.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He had eleven boards and six blocks.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's what I don't care. Haha, I don't care. He's
seven to three, he should have six blocks. I'm not
buying all this. Everybody already knows how I feel about it.
These guys are not ready. I'm sorry. The one guy
that was ready is his name Lebron whatever his middle
(35:18):
name is, I forgot it, James Lemon, I think Lamon something,
whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
It's Lakers now.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Lebron's the only guy that came in ready to play.
You know. One last thing all you gotta do is
think Anthony Bennett. Remember him number one pick with Cleveland,
had a great summer league, and what happened to him?
All that it's Raymond Raymond, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I thought it was Lakers. I thought it was like Raymond.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
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