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Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier discuss the Hard Knocks show and that they chose the Jets as the pinnacle team for this years show.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:47):
Be you Pubic Tonight, by the Way show.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, I'm hanging out with my daughters when I get home.
Come on, I'm in charged with going and finding some
ice cream and heading home.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's not party time for you. It's only eleven o'clock.
Where'd you get off to you?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, I mean we're gonna go. We'll probably watch a movie,
maybe hang out a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
When I lived on the West Coast, I party like
a rock sell.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Well, you're you're kind of a big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
I aspire to be.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I've got a couple more years before the girls are
uh well, I mean, look, it could have happened tomorrow,
but at least for tonight, they still don't hate me.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, you'll take that.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
I mean that that could flip at any moment.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Right, It's a tenuous hold that we have, but but
certainly for now. And you know, the younger daughter does
her club soccer work, so she's got a scrimmage tomorrow
to get back to work and back on the field.
And then older daughter is getting ready to start a
program towards nursing school. So you know, we got we
got a lot of big stuff going on in the

(01:43):
Harmon household. So you know, we're taking advantage of any
opportunity to be like sloths.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
You know, just just since you're bringing up your daughters.
I have a friend of mine. He was married, they
had four kids, a pair of twins and two single kids.
They were all girls. He got divorce, got remarried, and
the same thing happened. Four more kids, four more girls,
a pair of twins and two single ones. Eight kids
in all. And and all at all girls so ow ouch.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, I mean you're saying the ouch of the all girls.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's a lot of weddings to pay for.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yes, you know you could pay for the Sun's wedding too.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Well.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's a new world order, it is.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's true.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
That's all of that tradition and that stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I mean, come on, eight girls.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
People should be paying for.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Their own wouldn't you want through school and took care
of you? You want at least one boy? Come on?

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Maybe I don't know nothing against girls.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Philip rivers the other Yes, right, he's had on number
ten and once he got seven girls?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
What does he have? Seven of them?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
They get seven?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Wow? So seven out of the night.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
They don't know the I don't know that we had
a gender reveal. Maybe he'll do a party where he
tries to throw a football underhand.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
No, have him do it on your show with Jason Smith.
That we should have it on the on your show.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I mean he was a charger for all those years,
and we have lots of people that work around the
chargers and for the chargers that that are around the show.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, that's what you need to do, because.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know that's the guy I am between that and
Maury Povich references the Father. Oh boy, it is a
beautiful Friday night. I want to say thank you to
everybody out there listening to us. If you were with
us for five minutes, or you've been hanging with us
all night at work on the open road, no, you're

(03:36):
you got a lot of entertainment and information options. So
glad and happy and excited that you gave Arnie and
I a couple of minutes of your time. Alex and
Patrick and Monsey, the guys in the back, all of
us trying to bring you some levity in what can
be a heavy world. I mean, that's what it's all about,
trying to find some fun and some things to watch

(03:57):
and get you to chew on a little bit as
we all celebrate the highways and byways of the sporting universe.
That's about as much as I'm gonna wax poetic about that.
Now we'll get back into the I'm really getting tired
of this story already. And that's the Jets heading to
Hard Knocks. It was just announced, but it's been assumed
for a while, aren't He and Aaron Rodgers as part

(04:17):
of a golf tournament and appearances and everything he's doing.
He was asked about the Jets having to go be
part of Hard Knocks, and I mean he gave you
about a blunt assessment as you can get.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
One of the only things I like about Hard Knocks
is the voice of God who narrates it. Leeve. I
hope I get to meet him. But look, you know,
I understand the appeal with us. Obviously, there's a lot
of eyes on me, a lot of as on our team,
a lot of expectations for our squad. So they forced
it down our throats and we got to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
There you going great, Leev Schreiber, one of the great actors,
and certainly from a vocal perspective. But I mean Ray
Donovan go back to his work in The X Men,
the Great movie Salt, go back to Scream two. I mean,
he's a guy that's got a long, long, rich history

(05:08):
in cinema. I like that Aaron Rodgers went to that first.
But they shoved down our throats. I mean, yeah, there's
a lot of interest.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Didn't they vote on that? Isn't that part of the
players union, whether they want to bring a show like
Hard Knocks. It's not like the NFL says, okay, let's
bring them in. You know, by the way, they do
get paid for that.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
But that's it.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
There's a lot that you sign off in the CBA, right,
and you guys, right, but you pick your battles right, right.
You get fifty percent of the money, but you're picking
your battles as to which is one that you really want.
Like I always laugh about it when the CBA has
come up. It's like, yeah, they got a couple more
days off, all right, the product will be a little worse.

(05:46):
But if that's really what you're fighting for instead of
healthcare and all of those other things that seem to
be a bit more important given the brief shelf life
of most of the players in your sport, I guess
go ahead and do it. Which is why Roger Goodell
has beaten up on Demorris Smith and the Players Association

(06:06):
all these times. And now they have a new head
and we'll see how much that changes, if at all.
But when when you get down to it, yeah, this
is something that's that's part of the process that you
guys have agreed to. So someone had to do it.
There were four teams. You're the most interesting and sorry
Aaron Rodgers. You wanted to be the most interesting man

(06:28):
in the world. And you know, I'm gonna quote Spider Man.
We've been talking a lot about movies the guys tonight
and it's a Friday night. And obviously Arnie, you and
I as the the great cinophiles that we are. Oh,
look at Spider Man. With great power comes great responsibility.
Heavy is the head? You know that where's the crown?

(06:50):
And that's Aaron Rodgers here right. You want to go
to New York, New Jersey, restart your career, have all
these different options available to you, and and my out
pieces in the media and hanging out with McAfee and
everything else that goes on with it. Well, you're gonna
have to be on hard knocks. And we know the
history of teams, not a lot of playoff appearances or

(07:12):
success for the recent history of the show, so you
can look to buck that trend. But it's an opportunity
for anything you want to talk about. He's gotta be
a cameraman sitting with you as long as you're willing to,
so you can really own the news cycle for twenty
four hours every episode that airs, and then some you.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Know, I find it interesting, but he says, they're gonna
shove it down our throats, something like Hard Knocks is
for the fans. So you're really doing it for the fans.
Stop having such an attitude and give back to the
fans a little bit, because the fans want to be
taken behind the curtain, behind the scenes and see what's
going on. I know there's a million hours shot and
they use like ten minutes of it for per episode,

(07:50):
but at least it's for the fans. I think it
was kind of interesting when he says, Oh, they're gonna
shove it down our throats. You know, relax your stuff.
There's a lot worse out there. And believe me, we're
not gonna pay much attention to you at all. Well,
when you start the season one and seven, then we're
gonna say, you know, we have nothing that we don't care.
You're one in seven or two and six, probably one
in seven, so you know we're done even paying attention

(08:10):
to you. Your your career is done. And by the way,
don't get me wrong, they could probably start one in seven.
They got the Bills, the Cowboys, the Patriots will probably
beat then the Chiefs at Denver Philadelphia the Giants, the Chargers,
they're gonna start one in seven or one in six.
When it's all said done.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, the potential is there. I mean, then you have
expectation of the Denver Broncos. Something we talked about a
little bit earlier. Get the podcast wherever you get your
audio four hours at the Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon Arney in for Jason. We did talk about some
of the storylines not involving the Jets that intrigue us
for this year.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Go and check that out. We'd appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
And if you want to tweek that out to your
friends and text your friends and family, that would be
great too. Evangelize we're building the community show by show
our hour. But you know, Arnie to to that point, right,
they've got a tough schedule ahead and the shoved down
the throats.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, do it for the fans, think of think
of the children as really kind of where you were
going there, Well, children, come on, But.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's what it's for. We're you know, we're not asking
to do a whole heck of a lot. Just go
through practice.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's business, right, You're gonna do a couple of one
on one interviews and little breakouts of hey, this was
interesting in your quarterback room. It's kind of like being
on I mean it's a reality show, right exactly. Instead
of a confessional, you're sitting outside a meeting room and
you answer a couple of questions about something quirky or
something you're in the game plan or or something. Garrett

(09:42):
Wilson said, So, I mean you got all that is?

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Is it that much that it's bothering you?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think that you just have so much around you
having like we're nerds, you and I you know, we
love the Hollywood stuff. So you watch some of the
behind this right of some of these reality shows, like hey,
can you walk through that door for me?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Again? I didn't quite get the right angle.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's the kind of stuff I think they're gonna have
to put up with to a degree, not so much
that they don't, but I mean, but it's the intrusiveness,
like they're always around, like, hey, you know, like we
talked about the other night. I don't know how much
he's gonna care whether you know, he wears someone out
on camera, but maybe he does. Maybe there is something
that you can only do so far in that public forum.

(10:29):
Because now you're showing not because you know it's any
rift or whatever whatever the tabloids are gonna do with it,
and the aggregators out there, you know who you are.
Thanks for listening and being part of our program. But
the idea that all right, maybe it was something with
a play design that went wrong that as you're chewing

(10:49):
him out, you're putting on tape.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, but you know what, there's nothing they're gonna put
on to make Aaron Rodgers look bad. They do have
the final say on what gets put out on the show,
I think, so even if they do get tape of that,
they'll say, no way, you're not using that of him
chewing something right.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But but it becomes an aggregate though, Arnie, like, if
that's happening with any kind of regularity where it's the
the rhythm of things and you've gotta worry all the
time about production, you're not you're not getting you know,
your full practice in. So I'll give him credit that way,
and team's credit that. Maybe it becomes a bit intrusive
that way, but it's part of the overall entertainment product, right,

(11:25):
And at the end of the day, people love to
see how the sausage is made, and it might be
the most boring season we get because there have been
plenty of them that. I mean, what came out of it?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
All?

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
This guy's wife was moderately interesting. This guy there was
a car accident in the parking lot and someone had
chip paint and let's figure it out. I mean things
like that, that and obviously that's that's a made up example,
but it's stuff that is. It's innocuous, right, It doesn't
really move the needle. It might give us an hour
of content as the show is first airing, right, this

(11:58):
guy's a little quirky. What's this guy eat? What does
this guy not? He's got a special talent. You get
a little of that. But in the end, you know,
like the like I said, you know how the sausage
has made gets old after a while.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I don't want to think about it. And I think for.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Hard Knocks And we got the new show Quarterback. I've
only sampled it. I haven't had a chance to watch it.
Neither of those really are gripping to me in a
great way. Right, and occasionally show the series at all?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, Oh, I love the League, but I loved it
at the beginning and I got there. Yeah, I loved
it at the beginning, right.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
And Smith and I are on as it airs, so
we're paying attention, right, And I watch it because it's
part of the right. But it's part of the job.
But like if it wasn't my job as a fan
of the NFL, I don't care earlier it was.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Now I just said, if there's something he said interesting,
then send me the highlight.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
It gets clipped off fast now, right in real time,
people capturing the the interesting thirty seconds here, thirty seconds there.
So I don't even feel, you know, to watch the
whole thing like a lot.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Of people with movies. Then you want all that, well,
I mean you're gonna take every minute of it.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
You're gonna recognize the knuckleheads that you've gone to games
with or you've seen or you'll see how people love
or don't Fireman Ahead and all his cavalcade of stars, right,
and people will show up and they'll be friends of
Aaron Rodgers that'll make their cameos. Because it is still
nationally well watched television on a relative scale, right, So

(13:33):
I mean you're still gonna get some of that mixed in.
But to me, it's it's it's part of the process.
I like going to practice, as we were talking about that,
you get a chance to go talk to coaches or
the players and and get a little bit of insights,
particularly what were you guys trying to accomplish here here here?
Because then it gives you, you know, the scope there.

(13:55):
It's like, all right, we've got some are you gonna
see a lot of incomplete passes? It is like the
Aaron Rodgers slow motion stuff that's been out there. Everything's
been a perfect pass whereas we joke about, it's like,
you know, the safety came and picked that off. That
was he didn't put enough mustard on that one. So
the guy swept around and he's going the other way,
and then Smith gets mad and we laugh and we

(14:16):
move on. But but it's just that kind of thing,
aren't he It's it's to me, it's compelling, for all right,
what Aaron Rodgers do we get because if it shoved
down our throats means I'm gonna show some resistance and
that gets him to be a bit of a chat
ass in there.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, now now you got me in.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Well, now he's gonna have to go ahead and go
up against some well, he's went up against some good defenses,
but he didn't have the weak lines to kick around
for twice a year. So I think he's gonna have
to face a harder caliber of teams out there. So
I think he's gonna be in for a tough going,
especially with that schedule being so daunting. I mean, it's just.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Horrible the season itself. But yeah, it's it's a daunting task.
It's a strength of scaled duels is pretty rough. I mean,
you start right off with the Bills. Man, there's even
with folks getting mad that Josh Allen is dating Hailey Steinfeld.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
People get fired up as soon.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
As and how much is real versus imagined on the
Stefan Diggs like that thing, to me is the most interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm not even sure.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I don't really know that they are. That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
They might have had a little beef about one or
two things and play calls and circumstances from a couple
of game situations that they were still cheesed off about
and opportunities missed, particularly as you get towards the playoffs.
But it kind of seems to me that it's a
whole much ado about nothing and an off season story
because there's not a lot else on the bone.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
You better come out here for a Jets game too.
You're you're not a Jets You're not a real man
or a sports fan until you've gone to a New
York Jets game. I just want you to know that.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Is that what you're putting on me, now that I'm
gonna have it on a tech. You're putting that voodoo
on me.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You gotta come on, gotta come out.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
They play an evening game against the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
The Chargers, come on, come out for you.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
No, no, no, But the point is that would be
an evening game, so there might be an opportunity for
me to actually get there.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Co come out for a good game, you know, come
out for a good Sunday game. And I think they
played Kansas City early. They got they got a tough
schedule they have, they have a good one. Come out out,
enjoy yourself a little bit, enjoy the big Apple.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
There you go, Bill's Cowboys, Patriots, there you go. Come
out for a good one, my friend. That's an evening game.
That would cost me a lot of money. So unless
sure you're buying and supplying food you're working for the
game that I can't cheer against the Jets. See how
that works. That's what I did there. He's already spann

(16:50):
your in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Harmon. We stay
in the NFL coming up next year on Fox Sports
Radio as a wide receiver. Who while he's number one
in your hearts for the antasy purposes, but his quarterback
isn't number one in his We'll talk about that. But
the bigger deal is he named his top five wide
receivers of all time, and there is a glaring ooh mission.

(17:11):
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Speaker 2 (17:27):
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(18:01):
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Speaker 3 (18:11):
Welcome back and it's Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith Show
with Me by Carbon Live with the tire Act dot
Com Studios. No Jason Smith tonight. No no, no, no, no, sir.
It's a legend. He's a Hall of Famer somewhere, at
least in his own mind. It's already span your stinking
genius one on Twitter, Arnie. If you get me a
good photo, I'll get my daughter to make an animated

(18:33):
version of you.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh. I definitely need to get that well, so you.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
At least can have an already span your logo that
you he's selling T shirts or something. Absolutely, start your
own merch store. How about that?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I like that?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Next, a lot of stuff right there, and maybe you
could become number one on this guy's list.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
You know, we do a bit of list radio now
and again because look, people like to rank stuff. We
certainly everybody loves the list. I mean we love to
rank stuff, no question about it. Earlier this week you
had Kirk Cousins omitted from the top five quarterbacks when
Justin Jefferson got to work on that, and he responded

(19:13):
by saying, well, I didn't see it the first time.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
I'm hearing about it.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was on k Fan in Minnesota, you know, asked
about how he felt about being left off the list
that I didn't know about it. This is the first
time hearing about it. And he gave a little bit
more saying, well, it's a competitor. You always want that
to be on someone's top five list.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Quote people have to be honest and share what they think,
and I'm not going to tell someone what they need
to think. Hopefully in twenty twenty four I'll be on
his list. We'll see what we can do this year.
I mean that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
But all time, right not just is just like recent
during his lifetime.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Right now, no, right now, like it was right now,
it was active players, active quarterbacks, and he left his
guy off, So.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
I mean, you know what, that's fine, he left, but
he did have like a he had Mahomes, he had Rogers,
he had Burrow, he had Hurts, and he had Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well that's not a bad five out there, you don't.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I just say, I mean, yeah, you Captain Kirk. I
like Captain Kirk. But is he top five? No, he's
not top five there of course, not right. So I
mean the fact that his guy is honest, and I
think Kirk Cousins and from what I gather, if you
get deeper into the Quarterback Show on Netflix, you get
a little glimpse into the guy he is and what

(20:32):
he's all about. And that's all that's always been the
guy I understood him to be. Like, He's a guy
that's fought really well for himself, guaranteed money, guaranteed contracts,
and I celebrate his ability and his agent's ability to
make that happen for himself. And he's been pretty honest
about and his assessment of his play for years.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Blames anybody.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I don't think it bothers them all that much.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
I don't think it bothers them at all right.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well, I think somebody like Aaron Rodgers it would bother.
But I don't think it bothered somebody like Cousins, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well but legitimately, though, could anybody argue him into their
top five if they're not his nomily?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
No, you're right about that. Then you lose credibility when
you give your top five lists.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
When you do that, like I'm all four, you know,
there's those personal favorites, and you get excitable, you know
about some of that, and you just say, why is
that guy not there? Because he's your favorite player of
all time? Right? Like I get mad when people start
mocking the career of Harold Baines. I mean, he's a
Hall of Famer. He got in right, now, can we
agree that he didn't hit any of the metrics that

(21:38):
were traditionally going to get you in right, short of
three thousand hits, short of four hundred home runs, his
fielding acumen and the outfield assists. Well, his knees went.
So he became a dh and then he became a
professional hitter. But he's always a guy that's brought up.
So what do I do? I bristle at it. I
may recognize it, but I'm glad he's in. But I

(22:02):
recognize that, you know, maybe that's one of the errors.
But in the end, it's a museum. So folks just
need to calm down. How do you like that?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
No, you're right about that. I mean I lost track
that when you went over to baseball on that I
forgot where we're roight.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, But but just the idea that you know, when
you do the lists and you start to talk about
accolades and who belongs here what, and whether it's a
top ten ranking or Hall of Fame discussions like we'll
have going forward with the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Right,
these semi finalists are out and every year we have
one or two people that get in, and like, wait,

(22:38):
what they didn't make the semi finalists for years and
what why? How baseball you get in after multiple years,
you're in when they're still in the ten years of vote.
Just the way it goes. That's the way you can
have that kind of thing. But you know, Jefferson also
started going down the list and getting in to his

(23:00):
his rankings of the top five wide receivers of all time.
And Arnie, you're a student of the game. I thought
you'd find his list a little curious. Hold on, you know,
I think we have Justin Jefferson on his top five
wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Top five wide receivers all time. This is your list
DK all time, Antonio Brown ab shot.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Shot to ab Antonio Brown number one, got it, Antonio
Brown's number one, and I'm gonna go Randy Mouk, I'm
gonna go Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Huh, Julio Jones, this is your list. Yeah, I heard
it here from the source.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
You want to go with that one?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Ruh, It's not that bad, Moss Owens, right, Certainly it
would be in my top five, no doubt about that.
I'm not having an Antonio Brown even near there. Julio Jones.
I mean, I look, I don't have him in my
top five. But I'm certainly not going to ridicule you.
A great wide receiver certainly has a lot more yards
and better stats to give him credit for. So not

(24:02):
top five, but I'm not going to make too much
of that in that situation. So not bad. You may
want to put like a Larry Fitzgerald in there or
something to that effect, but our Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison,
but you at least got three of the five, right,
no doubt.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
This came off the Viking Age podcast. It's a Adam Patrick,
so give full attribution there. It's a curious five, right.
I mean, wide receiver position is obviously evolved through the years,
Jerry Rice. You start getting into the arguments of who
they played with, who is around right, because it's one
of those things when we look at those forty nine

(24:38):
Ers squads, they were loaded right at every position, every level,
and you've got two of the greatest quarterbacks of all
time throwing balls to Rice and Tarrell Owens. I was
at the Tarrell Owens twenty catch game. You know what
that also was what Jerry Rice's final home game as
a member of the forty nine ers. It was against

(24:58):
the Bears McNown. They didn't get the ball.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Past midfield, oh geez.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
But one thing they did do is they gave you
a flip book of the catch when you came in.
I made a lot of money on eBay that fall.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I was gonna say, you probably could make a lot
of dough off something.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I have a couple of them left. But I made
a lot of money out of evening because people didn't
want them right. So I was just walking up and
down the aisles and picking him up. I left with
a giant bag of him by time I was done
with it. But the point being like who do you
play with? Because that's gonna play a little bit of
a role, right with Fitzgerald. He had the years with
Kurt Warner, but otherwise not a whole lot. A little

(25:35):
bit towards the end Kyler Murray at all, but certainly
not a long run with him.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
You know who, I like his wide receiver, but you
know he does stats or not, Like won't put him
up in like the top twenty five or anything like that.
Was like a Michael Irvin. You know, you forget how
good he really was. He would don't make any top
five list or anything like that. And by the way,
fun receivers, do you remember who Dan Marino used to
throw to the Mark's.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Brothers now Clayton doing duper let's go, And they're nowhere
to manic tratamatic football, baby let's go.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
They're nowhere near the top fifty in receiving of all
time for wide receivers out there, but they were a
lot of fun. Marino love throwing to those guys.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Let's see. Now, you got me trying to go through.
Mark duper is seventy seventh in career. Wow, eighty eight
sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Wow, that's crazy. You know, that's far down. I thought
he'd be better than that. That's wow.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, but you know, there's always a little bit of
a chaos that goes through. A couple of huge years
can get you through. I haven't found Clayton just yet
as I try to scan this while we're on here.
But but it makes for the interesting point just the
evolution of the game. Right you look at receiving yards.
Rice is at nearly twenty three thousand.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah, he just blows everybody away.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
With Gerald seventeen to five. Then you've got Owens.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Moss, Tony Gonzales a receiver I do, okay.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right, I gotta start mixing him in if you want
to get there, you really want to go old school,
but the numbers aren't gonna be there. You talk about
an impact like ditk ahead. You know one of my
favorite receivers was that I don't think gets nearly the run.
He should is sterling sharp, he should be in the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, right, neck injury cut his career
short obviously, Shannon Sharp for years here as part of

(27:20):
the lock.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'll give you another one quad Bolden. How about him?
He has big numbers. Nobody ever really talks about him.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Fourteenth all time.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Is he in the Hall of Fame though?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, No, he's an interesting case though he has great
two thousand and seventy six, ten seventy six Roosevelt Road
was the address of my high school. Go send ignacious
college prep. Uh ten seventy six. In terms of receptions,
nearly fourteen thousand receiving yards, eighty two touchdowns and from
my money, the best post up wide receiver I've ever seen. Yeah,

(27:52):
you needed a first down. He was going to find
his way to the ball into the sticks.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
People don't remember, you know he was he was pig there.
He played a long time to career.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, right now, Julio Jones is sixteenth at all times.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Better stats than Julio Jones.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Huge, He's about one hundred hundred yards more than him.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Okay, uh.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
And then we look at guys you you bring up Gonzales,
talk about Shannon Sharp. We obviously in modern we look
at you know, we're Gronkowski and those guys not the old.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Guys like Steve Largin or something like that.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
But that's just it, right, It's a different game. And
O to your to your Michael Irvin comment made Troy
Aikman He's never gonna get the love because he wasn't
throwing forty touchdowns a year. No, because Smith had three
hundred and fifty pounds linemen that were road graders, right,
and then you you had to be operationally efficient and

(28:45):
win super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's the way it works.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
But in Jimmy Smith down there in Jacksonville, right, I mean,
you got a lot of receivers that kind of flow off,
not that you're arguing them in the top five. When
you have these discussions so many, it gets you to
think of some of those great players on what were
mediocre or terrible teams and you're like, boy, I really
wish this guy could have thrown him a ball.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Or what what about someone like Calvin Johnson. We didn't
even bring up that you could have in your top ten.
But I don't know statistically he belongs there, but he
was a great one also.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, And for my money, you know the last fifteen
you talk about, you know an klon Bold and I
like the post UF. I mean Calvin Johnson before the
ankles and stuff started to give right right short career though,
he was a beast man, an absolute monster. But again
they had some weaponry and you had a lot of
years with Matt Stafford, who if you talk to a

(29:40):
lot of quarterbacks and people around the game, is always
one of those first guys mentioned in terms of his
aptitude and ability and how great a quarterback he is. Right,
even if people want to go through the records against
five hundred teams and everything else, he is now a
super Bowl champion. He cannot take that away from him.
He he is Arnie Spander, Mike car We're having a

(30:02):
blast with you here Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike Harmon. Jason'll be back on Monday.
But coming up next we're gonna close things out. We've
got to play of the Night, which I gotta think
has got to be number twenty.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
From a big topic we touched on a little bit earlier,
and I wanted to ask you, uh, if you've ever
heard of the Jim Ers Collection.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I did. I saw this. I can't believe that much.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Fantastic story and we will get into that as we
close things out. But first it's Monsey Milanos with what's
trending as we wrap up a big day in the
second half of the Major League baseball season.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Let's see where she starts.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, what's trending?

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Shakita obvious?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, my girls, he understands me.

Speaker 9 (30:50):
No, we are women crush Wednesday in over here. I
know it's not Wednesday, but we're gonna women crash the
weekend and Shaquita any day anytime. Rumors of her and
Jimmy buckets. You know, he is still him. Yeah, with
this he.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Is he is.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
No, no, no, he was already a legend with big
Head coffee. Right, you're all millionaires at twenty bucks a cup.
Yeah you have that, and now you add you know, playoff,
Jimmy everything else.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
But Shakira, Shakida, let's go.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're the real MVP. I do agree, Yes, not really,
she is trending.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
But let's talk about baseball because the second half has
officially began, and we had a full day of baseball.
In fact, the last game just ended not long ago.
Tigers beat the Mariners in Seattle five to four. The
Twins in the A's were tied at three apiece going
into the ninth inning.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Joey Gallo real MVP.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Galli awaits and he gets this ball high in the
v deep into the right field corner.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Stay fair, it's fair, It's gone.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
It's a two run shot for Joey Gallo. It's a
five to three.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
Minnesota Twins League Twins Radio Network. They beat the A's
five to four was the final score. Astros took down
the Angel seven to five. Show Hey, O, Tani pitch,
did pitch?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Did hit?

Speaker 9 (32:02):
Bla blah blah, I'm gonna start over, show you on
Tani did pitch and thank you and he also hit
in the loss. Astros came out on top. Rockies rocked
the Yankees seven to two. The Cardinals in the Nationals
started their game, but it was suspended very early on
because of rain. With the Cardinals up one zero, the
Orioles top the Marlins five to two. Adam Fraser homer
twice in the victory. Miami second baseman Luis Araz, who

(32:25):
keeps slirting with the four hundred batting average, went zero
for four, bringing his batting average down to three point eighty.
The Red Sox top the Cubs eight to three. Six
home runs hit by Boston, including two from Raphael Devers.
The Rangers came back from behind to beat the Guardians
twelve to four, and things started well in Cleveland, the
city of brotherly Love for a hot second, because Bo

(32:46):
and Josh Naylor became the first brothers in Cleveland history
to hit home runs in the same inning in the
same game, and then earlier today the Dodgers. They took
down the Mets six zero. Blue Jays defeated the Diamondback
seven to two. Home run derby win and Vladimir Guerrero
Junior kept the home runs going with the solo shot
in the first inning. The Giants have reached fifty wins

(33:06):
with a six to four victory over the Pirates. The
Burrs edge of the Reds one zero, so Milwaukee is
now tied with Cincinnati with the top spot in the
NL Central.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Padres beat the Phillies eight to three, home.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
Runs from everybody, Gary Sanchez, Fernando Tattoos Junior, Manny Machado,
Juan Soto, and the Braves shut out the White Sox
nine zero. Matt Olson grand slam in the first inning.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
It just starts, It just starts.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
You just couldn't get it in the middle of the updates.
He's gotta be first or last. Here I start this
by punch you in the face. And now as we
end the night, Hey, by the way, the last thing
I'm gonna say before I say hey Arnie and Mike
back to you is, by the way that the White
Sox got shut out nine nothing.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
They did by the best team.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
You can't be mad.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, I can, because it shows the gap and how
futrid we are.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
But but they're the best, so you can't be that bad.
The Bagels and running back Joe MXon did reach an
agreement to rework the nine point four million dollar non
guaranteed base saler he was scheduled to make, basically taking
a pay cut to ensure his return to Cincinnati. His
agent said his goal is to win a Super Bowl
and to play his career in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Guys, it's been funke you.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Of course.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
You one thing that I was mentioned to you, hold on,
hold on you mentioning.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Taylor Swift tickets. Where are your seats?

Speaker 9 (34:24):
Like? Do you remember what section? Buy? Any chance? Three
forty eight three three hundred, Okay, tickets are going in
the three hundred section one twenty four hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Twenty four hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Kids were going to Chuck E cheese instead of Taylor Swift.
Let's talk twenty two.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Baby, Like, no joke.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
I am just saying that you could make a pretty penny.
Oh I guess yes, maybe you can sell those and
then buy cheaper ones in the like five hundreds and
send them.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
There watch it on TV three.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh yeah, it's the same. Having sat in both, I'll
tell you that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I've said, I've said it.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
It's the same.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yes, once you're that they're in the front row of
that of the three section.

Speaker 9 (35:18):
Okay, well if they're in the front okay, yeah, all right,
then you could probably sell them for three thousand.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yeah, and that's and that's what they are. Yeah. Yeah, wow,
thanks Bonzi.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I will be robbed going to my car and I
courtesy of our buddy Monzi find her there on Twitter.
Uh the my I gotta do my corrections because I
can play at the wide receivers. Because I wanted to
jam all those stories together, because we got Justin Jefferson
and his quarterback list. This was DK Metcalfs. I mean
it was more about the list and commemorating the wide receivers.

(35:50):
But it was DK Metcalf on the CBS All Things
Covered podcasts. Just wanted to do my correction, you know,
to show that I'm not truly a dope and I
can admit when I can flate things. And that's what
we did here. We will still all agree. Antonio Brown
number one, all right, he's already on my Coming up. Next,
we've got Patrick Mahomes saying, well, admitting something that I

(36:14):
wish more athletes would when they decide to take a
bit of a stance. And then obviously we've got our
play of the night. Will do that as we can
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