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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with My bass friend
Mike harmonbo live from the tire Rack dot Com studios,
where it's Mets White Sox. The battle for supremacy of
the show begins.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Does the loser have to trade someone immediately after the
final out?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Loser leaves town?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But like legitimately you just a microphone goes into the
dugout and someone volunteers this tribute to be traded.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah. No, Well it's the Hunger Games. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I I would I would say that that would be
a good way to end this game. It is terrible. However,
too terrible teams, it is awful. I mean, look, the
Mets are winning eleven two. Now it's eleven nine. Yeah,
I didn't think these would be the stakes for Mets
White Sox this season when our teams played like we had,
we had hopes and dreams and now we have that's
a ton of time. Yeah, I keep telling you, Hope,
how dangerous is I mean? Come on, Yeah, I had
(01:25):
hopes and dreams and now I have the Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. Again,
that's a lot of wish and wanting, hoping, and uh,
well let's see how that plays. We got plenty of
time to talk about that. But yeah, you're eleven two
lead is no more? Yeah, been a minute for you
and I back here.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You haven't seen each other, and I've seen.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You, and it's like it's like one hundred and five
degrees out right now, and Harmon's wearing a sweatshirt almost
like you're going through it like a sweat cleanse. That's
that's what it is. That what you're doing to those
sweats Are you really doing that? Are you wear like
a weighted vest under that sweatshirt to weight it? It's
just the neoprene, Oh my god, it is really you're
really doing that, dude?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That could be dangerous for you tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm not outside I'm here in the sixty four degree
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What you're doing?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So it's just like wearing a sweatshirt. Okay, So I'm
trying to get myself to just a book. I mean,
I could heat heat it up.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
In here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We're gonna keep the temperature down because it's bleeping hot
out man. So I don't know if that's internally it'll help.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Me a little bit? Is it gonna help you?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Talking out the same effect? If I sat out there,
I'd fry like an egg, okay, But in here it'll
have a little bit because because I am fat.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
When when you start get loopy later, I mean, what
do I do? I just cut it off of you
like they do in the TV, right, I just cut
it right.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Off straight ups, like we got it. We gotta get
them loose, all right, ty shirt? You and I are
gonna have to innovate if something happens to harmon?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay? Is that PC?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Can I innovate it? Yeah? No, you can't. Is that
one of those like? What which pen are you gonna use? Though?
It's gotta be something fair? Oh yea yeah pen?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, because you gotta give me a trachy out of me. Yeah,
you're gonna jam it right down in there. Sure you
can get the airway going if I have if I'm
struggling breathing, Yeah, like the highlighters and stuff and the
sharpies they won't work.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We need something better than that. Yeah. I have done
a backyonomy before. Is that okay? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it's you before back surgery money. It'll be
a little bit different. It's gonna be the front side.
We got a cut harm and sweat to here. Let's
cut a sweatsh it off now, just to practice.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'm so down. I just see where we're at. All right,
you're good?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Should we start with the sleeves like you? I mean
where my Mets T shirt?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Say?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's Mets white socks. It's exciting, buddy, I mean it's
not really.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Which was really exciting until they met that buzz saw.
That was the oars. Look, if we're gonna do conversations
about nineteen seventy eight with Rob Parker in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I could bring up the eighty three white socks. What
do you got, Frostburg Well? In honor of the Dark
Night's fifteenth anniversary, right, yes, why don't we a pencil.
My fuck, the guys are going pen really, it's gonna
make that pencil disappear.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Who wants to see me? Make we can try? Now
that happens, Like, would that help you at all? I like,
if you start, really, if if your head gets really sweaty,
could I make the pencil disappear?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Would that help things? It might be like Homer when
they had the cranon and oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah, an oh, it's fun really kind of disturbing.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
If you start running the joker lines from from Dark
Knight while you're watching Ten Things I Hate About You,
it really becomes a much different movie.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who wants to see me?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Give Mike Harmon a cranyotomy boom And then suddenly, all
of a sudden, maybe you will be cut walls. All
of a sudden you will know. You'll be like Matt
Damon and Goodwill Honting. You'll just know everything and start writing.
You'll be be cutting your finger and blood to write
equations on the wall.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Here. I just have to get it out of torture,
genius not I gotta write it out. I gotta write
it out.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I get up, but I pricked my finger. I'm like
or just grabbing the blood from my head and writing
I did that. But also think about the joker on
the stand singing love you baby, Yeah your ears for
the dark knight crazy, who wants to see me make
the fun? The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmen, Live from the tire rack dot com Studios. Yes,
(04:56):
Mett's white sox.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What passes for a big game, Well, it's big for
us to night because it's bragging rights, and it's pile
drivers and all kinds of stuff and cranny otomies and
all all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, the Dodgers Orioles was supposed to be a good game.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It was, but you know, the Orioles are kind of
hurting me here a little bit with my big, you know,
second a half bold prediction they were gonna win the
Al East.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, but this is not This is not the series
you want to predict it. After this series, Yeah, it
really is. After the Dodgers leaves out, you can move forward.
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more baseball on the way because now the next two
weeks are going to be dominated by absolutely one storyline
in all of sports. But we have a lot of
upset running backs. Mike Harmon, they are, They're salty, now,
they're forming are now they're uniting in group texas in
the format, Hey, no one's getting paid. We gotta do
(06:00):
something about That's where you get stuff done is in
the group text.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Are you mad about your contract? Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Hey, and here's a flaming dumpster emoji to let you
know all about it. Hey, do me a favorite? Can
you loop Dalvin cook In on this? How do I
do that? I don't know how. You just got to
go go to where they hit the eye for information,
hit the add a person add Dalvin. No, we can't
add him because if he signs a deal, we're gonna
have to remove him, and that's a lot harder. It
was yesterday that we found out Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs,
(06:31):
Tony Pollard, three of the best running backs in the
NFL all get franchise tag. They could not come to
terms on a new deal with their team, so they
will play this year under the franchise tag. Saquon Barkley
already said he's holding out, and many other running backs
picked up the cause, very upset that this is what's happening.
Jonathan Taylor tweeting out, Wow, I can't believe it. Derek
Henry saying, why would you teach any kid to be
(06:53):
your running back anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
All these running backs, He's not wrong, No, they're all
they have all masked together now and it's like now
now the revenge of the running back is happening. So
what have they done so far? They have found targets
on social media they're very upset about, saying don't call
me replaceable.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You better not call me replaceable.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Look, and then it put a picture of Austin Eckler
uk or Isaiah Pacheco had saying, hey, undrafted seventh round guys,
here two of your highly heralded running backs for twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Dude. Here's the thing is that I can.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I can put everything in perspective and help the running backs,
all the upset running back, whether it's Barkley everybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Right now. Of course you can't because it's all your fault.
That's not my fault. Not my fault. You can blame me.
Oh no, no, no, me and Mike No no, no, no no.
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Speaker 3 (07:52):
We did no, no, We didn't give bad advice to Melvin Gordon.
We gave him the right advice. He just chose not
to take it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But then he got mad at fall of position. That
might have been him and led Bell.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
When these guys deciding, hey, I'm gonna take a year
off and led Bell still got a big contract. You're
never getting that fifteen million that you walked away from
back and it really started to spiral from there.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But it's it's been coming for a while. And by
the way, the guys are still the top. Guys are
still getting ten million dollars. Yeah. Look, here's what I.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Want to say to all the running back. This has
been the biggest story of the last twenty four hours,
how upset they are, and they want to find a way.
They want to try to find a way to figure
out how they can get more money.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And it's not my fault.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I told Melvin Gordon, Dude, no, you got mad at
me on social media. Okay, look where we're at. Sometimes
it's difficult to love something that doesn't love you back,
because that's where all these NFL running backs are right now,
and it happens to everybody unfortunately, in whatever they do
(08:51):
for a living. Sometimes you just love a job and
for whatever reason, it doesn't love you back, and it's
very difficult because you could love doing what you do,
you love doing where you're doing it, and the job
doesn't love you back.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It happened to me at ESPN when I was there.
I love doing what I was doing. Job didn't love
me back, So what was I going to do? You
have to figure out and get right with it and
go on to what's next. And that's what all the
running backs have to do right now. You have to
understand that, Okay, you love this game, You've been a
running back your whole life, all these things, and understand
that being offered ten million dollars for one year. Work
(09:26):
is pretty good. Okay, No one's saying you got to
play for the league minimum. You're making ten million dollars.
This year, you get franchise again, you're making thirteen million dollars.
What if you get hurt? It's tackle football. That's the
same thing for everybody, right, everybody else. Nobody was walking
around a few years ago saying, right, guards aren't getting paid.
We have to make sure we stand up for the guards.
So sometimes you love a job that doesn't love you back.
(09:47):
And right now we are at a part of the
National Football League, in the National Football League timeline where
running backs are unfortunately very replaceable. That you can have
a guy be great for his first content. Do you
want to get on the hook with a guy for
the rest of the rest of another second contract? Sometimes yes,
sometimes no, but inevitably you want out of it when
(10:08):
a guy hits twenty seven to twenty eight years old.
You have seen the top of the line of running
backs be unable to get new deals. Austin Eckler should
be able to get a big new deal. Guess what
he can't, all right, Dalvin Cook should be able to
get a pretty good deal. For a couple of years.
Guess what he can't. No matter where you are, running backs,
it's difficult and you have to get right with that.
This is where you're at in the game, and understand
(10:29):
that you're not going to get incredibly over the top
rich like running backs did a few years ago when
they were signing seven years, seventy million dollar contracts because
that was what the gate, that was who the game
was built around. The game is built around quarterbacks now.
And I'm sorry you play a position that has been
devalued by the NFL. But for a lot, like I said,
right guards were devalued, centers were devalued. For a long time,
(10:51):
no one wanted to pay defensive tackles for a long time.
Inside linebackers didn't get paid. No wanted to pay these positions.
But as time has gone on, you have gone in
and out of eras of of players getting paid. This
is simply what it is for running backs.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I'm sorry, but you got to get right with this
and say, okay, how do we go forward. Can we
find a way to make the pie a little bit
bigger where running backs need to make more money? But
you have to find some way to say what's what's
next now, because this is not going to change. You're
not going to change any NFL team's minds about paying anybody.
You have to figure out what do we do next
(11:25):
because this is where we're at. And if you're so
upset about being running back, I don't play well. But
that's the thing, right, your summary statement is there, This
is a monopoly. Okay, you can go play in these
other leagues. You can go try another sport. You're a
running back in the National Football League. As we talked
about a little bit yesterday when we were in for
Cavino and rich the you had tight ends trying to say, hey,
(11:46):
I'm basically a wide receiver. I do some blocking, but
I'm a wide receiver. And what they say beat it.
In your CBA, you had this mechanism put in place
for the franchise tag the average of the time five salaries.
Guess what if we're talking about you making ten million dollars,
you're being paid as one of the top five backs
in the game. So the way it is meted out,
(12:11):
that is it right? You want to get rid of
those franchise tags. Maybe there's a little bit that changes
in terms of salary structure. But that's a pretty big
give back to ownership. If you want to go down
that road right now, you start to unravel a lot
of your other negotiations and probably weaken your points in
others and nobody. Look, we loved our three yards and
(12:33):
a cloud of dust. You and I grew up in
that era. I'll watch videos of Earl Campbell and Walter
Payton and Barry Sanders toomp Blue in the face. But
that's not the NFL we're in now. You've got multiple
teams with two to three running backs getting the job done.
A lot of guys like Eckler and others. Yeah, they
catch a lot of passes, but you know what, You're
still a running back. You're not a slot receiver. That's
(12:55):
not being realigned. This is not the King of Queen's
episode where Doug claims he's gonna go work for fed Right,
if I don't get that zone, I'm gonna go leave. Well,
what do you want me to do, Doug. Here's what
I'll do. I'll rename that zone zone thirteen for you
or zone one, whichever. He was trying to go one
to the other, right, he wanted the light packages with
(13:17):
the beautiful housewives as opposed to driving miles to nowhere
to wear houses and stuff, and so he wanted the
plumb thing. So what did the boss do? He said,
we'll rename it. Yeah, you don't want to be called
a running back anymore. He can do it. It's not
changing anything. That's still your function on a football field.
Like we talked about, all of these things, you can
change all of these things. You can stipulate too. At
(13:39):
the end of the day, you're still a running back.
You want to hold out, You're now a year older
and you're still a running back.
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
No, you tried to leave me? Okay, now you know what.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It was funny because he can't walk and he goes
you guys think you can leave you right, throws his
bag down flexes because he was.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wearing a tank top. He's like, you can't get rid
of me. Let me let me look.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Let me let me first say this, I'm the only
one that wears a tank top on the show because yeah, no,
because of my triceps too.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Before he gained weight.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, this see this outworks though. See the hosts that
we get to, we get to, you know, make the
rules and the rules are. It's just like Hollywood. Nobody
else in the tank top that can compete with me?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Is that right? That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like the most of the people have
on movie sets.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So start.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Hey, no better looking women than the women who are
the stars, right, or no hotter men than the men
who are the stars.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
No, I mean I'm the only one with triceps on
the show like that. You know I do wear sweaters now,
even though I have a tank top on.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, well you you would harm it. I mean it's
one hundred and five degrees out. You guys are in sweat.
I mean he's trying to cut up his six pack.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Me.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm just trying to get back to I really it's a.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Good looking man, mad I just may cut you out
of that that whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What do you what?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What is the sweatshirt? What does it do? Make you sweat?
To make you gonna make me sweat? What does it do?
Like it just bothered? I mean, just cut you out
of it, just because.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Just an extra calorie burn as you're working out. But
they call the sweatshirts something, right, they called they call
him something. It's that that you wear it? Aw does
it have an official name? I mean I know the
brand names. It's like they didn't give it to me
and they don't pay me. He's no, it's like no, no, no, No,
that's the Nike part. No, the one when when you
wear sweatshirts to make you sweat, to make you lose weight.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Is that called a sweat shirt? No, it's a specific
I see what you did there, T shirt? That was
pretty good. No, talking about a sauna suit? Is that
what it is? I guess it kind of go down
that way.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Sauna suit sounds like something. Frotzburg notes, I got a.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Pair of shorts that I don't know, I never heard of.
This is really bothering you? It is?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It is?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Because it's because it's hot out. I mean it's sixty
we're not outside right now. I'm feeling. It's not helping you.
It's not helping you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
A T shirt, you know what you want to feel it? No,
I don't want to feel your stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Why No, I'm not touching Harmon touching Harmon on camera?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Actually, I mean it would be the sixty first time
you actually sweatshirt to show me you want to touch me. No,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Don't do it again. Don't do it again. Hey man,
I'll do anything for ratings. Let's go, how y'all doing.
That's not gonna help anything. That's gonna help help us.
That's not just about okay, not gonna help us. All right, Hey,
let's let's let's have Harmon help us with ratings. Turn
his mic off.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh that was off the top rope boom, and I'm
landed on you one due three.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, mon soon we got a new world champion.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Because I'm a broadcast professional, I'm not gonna sit here
and start reading stuff off and names.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That was though. That was That was pretty good. That
was pretty good. That was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Game of the night in Major League Baseball. The Mets
will go to the ninth inning, My Mets leave the
game of the night leading Harmon's White Sox eleven nine,
two teams that combined forty five games under five wants
to lose more? Eh, let's see how who wants it less?
But we are now at a part in the sports
calendar where, well, really two stories will dominate the next
(18:24):
couple of weeks, but one is going to be larger
than anyone because we are now officially on Otani Watch
twenty three.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow
wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow bon
on wana woah Woa waa woa wow wa wah waha.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We're the bucket full of going tr uh Otani Watch
twenty twenty. Every day is going to.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Be what's happening now? Yesterday the Rays were interested. I
also saw that maybe the Yankees were interested. I also
read that maybe the Giants would make a trade for him.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Is this where you start just saying sources said and
just randomly say a team.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
This is where I could be an MLB inside because
I can say, hey, you know, I talked to I
talked someone that told me the Cardinals wanted Otani.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
No exactly, I talked to a guy at Cardinals Jersey
when I was in Saint Louis last week.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know, we should getto don.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It was a Malina jersey, So I know he's a
big fan. He's a big fan. It's clearly an inside
about what know. But that's where we're at in this process,
which is insane.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wow, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And we had the report you know from our buddy
John Paul Morosi about the angels in the listening. Well, yeah,
obviously they are. Doesn't mean they're doing anything. It could
be a lot of inactivity. And just I pick up
the phone, I see the area code. I go, all right,
what's it on the map? Okay, it's that team at
Hi Hi Jim, Yeah, okay, right, not today.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Hey, we're gonna get a story every day. Right, We'll
get a story every day, and in the next two weeks,
he'll be going one of fourteen different places. Are the
Mets gonna buy are they not?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Or he's not moving it?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Or now the dodd they will not trade into the Dodgers. Right,
that was another one yesterday. Keeping Keeping track of Otani
stories is like trying to keep track where Lebron was
gonna go the first time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I heard it could be the heat, it could be
the next heard it could be the Lakers. Yeah, no, no, no,
not yet. Ye take the day off.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He's got to have a you know, he's got to
have a skull session to come up with what's the
next thing I need to do.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
To grab some crazy has we change jerseys and we
really surprised everyone.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
What else do I have and what else can I do?
I got nothing?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Do I talk about wanting to get Kyrie? No, dude,
to forget it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Forget it, man, it's not so every day is going
to be dominated by this, and with every passing day,
with the further the Angels fall out of the playoff race,
it's going to be easier and easier to trade o'tawni.
And they're gonna do it. If Mike Trout wasn't injured.
And you thought that an Angel thought, Hey, we don't
want to do this to Mike Trout. We don't want
(21:07):
to do this to the team here. But Trout's out right.
Trout's gonna be out until after the deadline, and the
team is in free fall. They're under five hundred. They
got a vault past eleven teams now just to be
a wildcard. So they've gone from a position of strength
which was they led the Wildcard by three games. There
were ten games over five hundred. Now they're two games
under and they're in free fall. Yes, it was great,
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the home run last night, the batflip Biotani. It was awesome.
But I don't see how you don't. I don't see
how you don't trade it, because if you're not in
the race, he's not gonna re sign with you, right,
he's not gonna We tried how many years now, and
it's not worked out. With the other best player in baseball,
it's not worked out, So you're going to lose Sho
Heo Tani. Maybe a team that makes the move for
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him is going to be a team that says, hey,
we want you long term, which will then make the
prospects you get back much much better. Be like the
Won Soto kind of trade. You'll get all these guys
because you're gonna have the guy for a while. But
I don't see how you don't. You will still get
really good prospects for him because it's Otani, And in
the end, teams are gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Say, oh, yeah, we'll convince him.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
He's gonna like our culture here and what we have
going on in the locker room, and he's gonna like
what we have.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What we have happening? Yeah, and we feel pretty good.
And here's a couple of really good players.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Because the bottom line is, if I thought you could
keep Otani past this season, I would say don't trade him,
and and Stan Patter whatever you need to do here.
And surely they looked like they were gonna be aggressively.
They traded for Eduardo Escobar, who's thirty five years old.
But things change, and Mike Trout getting hurt changes things.
And now if he's going to leave anyway, is it
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worth two months of letting him walk away and not
getting at least one really really good player because you
could probably get two really good players for Otani for
a couple of months. You're not gonna get we we
want these six guys all the you will get a
couple of really good players. And if you're the Angels,
you've tried it this way with Otani, it hasn't worked.
It's time to try something new, So let's go. Let's
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go get somebody else, because there is a baseball team,
after all. It's it's something that you try. Maybe you
got to push up all the different bobblehead nights. We
gotta get him all. The next week and a half,
we're gonna have two bobblehead nights on the same night.
The first four and a half innings is gonna be
this a Tony babblehead. Second four and a half inning's
gonna be this up Tony babble But you have to
do something because to sit back and watch him just
play out the last couple of months, that's great, You'll
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sell tickets, people will come see the games, look at Otani,
but in the end, you're not doing your team any
favors by letting him walk away at the end and
not getting anything for him.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, but that that comes down to the argument I've
had in this whole process, going back to before the
season a right as this started to gest date, was
what is Ardy Marino? What is he really looking at
from a winning perspective? Yeah, he bought bought in, made
a couple of moves, right Mustakas and you know Escobar,
(23:51):
like you said, paid all that money to Rendon, which
realizes he just lit that on fire. Trout is in
the a long deal that is not aging well at all,
and if he were healthy, he might be the asset
you tried to move to say, hey, you know what,
we might be able to get better by trading the
guy that was once the best player in baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You have eclipsed him.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But where it stands for me is Ardie Morio strikes
me as more of a business guy who wants to
make sure he capitalized, and he had explored, you know,
what's the valuation of the squad, and then they came
back and go, well, it's a giant incomplete because well,
if Otani's here, it's worth X over the next five
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to seven years. And if he's not, well, good luck. Right,
you're gonna still sell your two point eight to three
point two million tickets because you've got a lot of
tourists coming to town, et cetera. But losing him, it's
a lot of advertising that goes off of those walls
and out of your broadcast. You're not getting money from
Japanese television. And he strikes me as a guy that
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recognizes that after those two months, nothing they're getting back
is pushing them to the promised land if they couldn't
get there with Trout and o Tani.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And think about the pressure.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
On whoever these prospects are that come in, Hey, you
know what you were traded for Toani?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Good luck?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah? But in the how many of those guys crumble
under a week? But this is just how it goes, though,
And I understand the the logic, the theory of hey,
go get what you can before he walks away. I
also just have this gut with Ardie Moreno, that doesn't matter.
The baseball logic of moving forward and trying to rise
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from the ashes, that one or more of those guys
are going to become great everyday players or frontline starters
isn't first and foremost in his thinking.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It has to be.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It has because you know, Okay, this is not working
with Shoeo Tani. Is it gonna work with getting these
these other players? Whatever it's going to be, I don't know,
but I know it's not working with him, and you're
not gonna have him, all right.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
If you're not going to have him in two months,
is it really worth two months of Hey, the home
games we have left when he's pitching, we're gonna get
a lot of people. Is it really worth it? Or
is it maybe the guy you get, of a couple
of players you get, maybe you could figure out some
kind of big deal and you're doing a whole players
and I'm saying your GM and major. But that's what
I'm telling you is that it doesn't have to stick
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with logic. And that's where I'm zagging, where everybody's trying
to find the perfect fit and photo shop them into
a giant uniform area.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I will hire you to be the GM.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
He's not if you're trying out right now, if you're
doing a whole undisputed tryout like like people do in
the media.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Now, but take I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Fill your pockets with every damn dollar you can steal
for the last two months of otanis is that gonna
be billion to dollars five million dollars of the Japanese market.
That's a dollar we need to figure out five million.
You always show me the international markets don't matter for
a five million. I always tell you to beat it. Well,
it all counts the same once you do the conversion. Well,
(27:05):
just ask mission impossible seven. Hey, we're doing really well
in the international market.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
What did I tell you doing well? Please look at that.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Look at that spin right that when you're not doing
it domestically, Hey, look how well we're doing worldwide. Fine,
we're not doing well domestically, which means in our division.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So let's go worldwide, which is let's move on. I mean,
you're either better or you're not. But that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Are you trying, yes, in baseball games? Are you worried
about the dollars and cets? Okay, and that's already Morina.
Just let mease worried about the dollars and sets.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Let me just let let me let me just ask
you this. Okay, let's just say.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
He's got to capitalize on that. Let's just till the
end of September and they ain't go home into the
good night. Let me let me take it down into
into an easier into an easier analogy here. Okay, let's
just say I have a piece of cake, a big
piece of chocolate cake. I got none great chocolate cake,
great chocolate cake.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Would never just have one some chocolate, but he'd have
It's one of those.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Cheesecake factory, big tower pieces of chocolate.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Cake for every piece, and have a piece on deck,
and were sending across the street to get cheeseca. It said, yeah,
I can go for cheesecake. I ca I have the
biggest piece of chocolate cake. I could pop it and
it's delicious. Some might even say it's the best chocolate
cake that's ever been made, these chocolate cakes that were made,
you know, in the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And no, no, no, okay, ain't got nothing. No, no, no,
this is the best chocolate cake ever. Okay, great, Oh well,
what do you do now? The thing is at the
end of the show tonight, you can't have it anymore.
It was replaced with an entimate. It's the end of
the gap. It's the intimen's uh end shop, where it's like, yeah,
there's stuff that's three days old, go buy it.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Uh. So, at the end of the show, you're not
gonna have this cake anymore. Wait, I'm not Nope, not
gonna have the cake anymore. Okay, but you can trade
this cake for some cookies that are really good. Maybe
there's a piece of cheesecake you can get as well.
Maybe you know a couple of ding dongs or King
(29:04):
don or you know something whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You can get that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But wait a minute, but it's not as good as
the cake I have in front of me. No, But
at eleven o'clock tonight, when the show is over. It's
gone and you're not gonna have it anymore. So I
can either have the cake until eleven o'clock and then
lose it, or I can not eat this cake, but
in a few hours I will at least get something
(29:28):
else that will be pretty good. Because I would like
chocolate chip cookies. I would like cheesecake from cheesecake factory.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would like that. I would like that.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
So of course I'm going to select give me what
I can have that's at least somewhat as good as
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
To lose it.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, because it'll lose it. I gotta have theory fails
on that. Would I rather have the best that I
could possibly have or a bunch of this will get me?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
By crap, you.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Don't get the cake. That's the thing. The cake disappears
on you can't eat the cake. But if I ate
it before eleven, you know, oh Tani's leaving, it doesn't
But that's.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
My points and gets that cake for the next two months. Yeah,
I get to savor bite. But now that he really
gets into a cannibalism thing, you're really weird. Okay, but
but but okay, let's you're going to give me some
crappy such stuff. I always say, if you're gonna have
the and indulge, you go for the best that you have.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
If ippose track, if I can only have a couple
of bites of the cake, yeah, only.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I'd rather have the bites of that gas. Majority of
it's gonna be gone.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And at eleven o'clock and the Bunco cookies you were
trying to pa, they're gonna be cookies.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You just showed me they're they're just cookies. But they're
supposed to be very good cookies. But they're not the best.
They could be the best cookies that someone's gonna give
me for the for the cake. That's my point. Okay,
that's not good.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
And I would try because I know I had the
most exquisite, luxurious, velvety, beautiful, sugary sweet cake in front
of me, and you're trying to trade me this crap.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
No, everybody's saying, why it's choose? Why is he not
choosing the food. You should be choosing the food. You
should be choosing the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Choose the cake. No, you're not getting the cake I want.
I got the cake for two more month. Cake has gone. No,
you know you the cat eleven o'clock and you only
get it. But that's that's the end of September. You
can't the cake in both your face and you wake
me up.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
With September is and then you can handle prospects and
your magic beans.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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Speaker 1 (32:00):
Mike Harmon wearing one of those sweatshirts that makes you
sweat inside that helps.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You lose weight, feeling good.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I got three months till I turned fifty, all right,
I got a big number that I need to wear
that for three months?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh well, after washing it, okay, between Whares.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
But between that and extra workouts, I mean no skipping
of leg day and you know Quadzilla return.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Sorry AJ Dillon, I'm taking it back. You know I
got I got a big number. I got to hit.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Sweating a lot, you will be you are right now?
What are you sweating as much as the seventy six ers?
What do they swear you sweating as much?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was yesterday?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Joel Embiid, it got out from a podcast he did,
an interview he did on Thursday that he wants to
win a championship, whether it's with the Sixers or somewhere else. Today,
the Sixers put out a statement saying that hey, if
we trade James Harden we needed we needed to be
making a title contending trade where we have to stay
(32:58):
title contenders.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We can't trade James harden.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Way and not get guys back. So clearly the Sixers
think this is five years ago. Oh we're gonna trade
the James Harden of twenty eighteen and things are gonna
be great.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
No, you're trading just a guy right now, just a
guy starts sweating Philadelphia. Yeah, because your title window is closing,
and Joel Embiid's gonna be a Nick either in the
next couple of months or by this time next year.
Just understand, you're gonna get Julius Randall and RJ. Barrett
and something else, and the Knicks are gonna get Joel
Embiid because he's gonna be gone. He wants out. You're
(33:30):
not gonna build a title contending team. You can't make
a good enough trade. You're not good enough already teams
are passing.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You Nicks, Nicks staring at me, and you've got a
Nick logo instead of my head, Julius.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Randall, RJ. Barrett, whatever else.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
So Darryl Moury was on ninety seven to five, the
fanatic talking about and confirming James Harden quote wants to
be somewhere else, and so that's part of the process.
After he opted in to his thirty five point six
million dollar deal. Yeah, he opted in that deal in
theory to help them make a trade. How's that helping anybody?
(34:04):
When he's got thirty five point six million dollars now
four straight years of at least tennisists, but the shooting
percentage has gone down. His ability to show up in
the playoffs is long documented. His ability to show up
in Game seven between him and Joe l Embiid maybe
one of the worst game and Doc Rivers coaching three
(34:25):
of the worst Game seven no performances. You ever keep
saying it's not my fault. We did have a joke
for one of our usual listeners, and I appreciate this.
You know, Doc rivers most hated movie is seven. No
is it coming on cable? Can't even can't even deal
with it.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Hey, what's on the schedule. What's on the schedule? It's
Game seven? Lieutenant? Lieutenant, what's on the schedule? Oh, what's
on the schedule?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Now? He wants to go to the Clippers. That's the report.
Obviously you'd love him with the Knicks, and that it's
a trade of last resort. It's kind of the Ardi
Moreno Trading show. Hey Otani and having a chauffeur send
him up the five to the Dodgers. It's that's same
theory of I'm gonna I'm gonna lose potentially a contending situation,
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which you were in a contending situation and your big
man failed to deliver, as did James Harden MVP.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Your MVMP failed, by the.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Way, how much does nobody care when that happens on Thursday,
and that news doesn't really percolate until a Monday following.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Anyway, you mean people didn't pick that up. Let's make
sure we get that out. Let's make sure people understand
that I said I want to win in Philly or
someplace else. Look, the guy wants out. He's gonna it's
He's doing the same thing Russell Wilson did two years ago.
I'm gonna lay the groundwork where maybe I can get
out now, but if not definitively by this time next year,
if changes aren't made, he's gone years gone.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And he's got two more years on his deal before
or after this year before he would get to the
player option. But in today's NBA that doesn't matter. So
I appreciate the tact, right. He didn't dance around it.
He just said, oh yeah, I like it here, but
I could win somewhere else. Joel Embiid is gone, gone
like Dan Patrick, gone gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone,
(36:20):
going back back back back, God, Joel Embiid is gone.
It's either now or next year, but he's gone. To
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