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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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sent this text to my dad and to Fabiano. Yeah,
and I used really big font. Speaking of font, I
used really big font the font. Hey, can you guys
read this text all the way down in last place?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh my wow, that's cold. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We got more from the NFL in a second, but
right now, check your Major League Baseball standings and look
and see who is in last place in the American
League East, not the Rays, not the Orioles, not Toronto,
not Boston, but the Yankees now nine games out in
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last place. They came into tonight in a virtual tie
for fourth with Boston. But Boston wins, the Yankees lose.
Now it's a game and a half that the Retzogs
are up over the Yankees, who are in dead last
place in the AL East.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
This always becomes my favorite argument. Over the next twenty
four hours, you'll hear, well, if they were in the Central, Hey,
you know what, they're not, and they're not gonna be
radical realignment is not coming, you think. Now, the good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
News is for the Yankees is they're in last place.
Now now the good news is for the Yankees is
that they're in the last place. The good news is
for the Yankees is that they're still right there for
the wildcard because there are four games over five. Aaron
coming in at some point, Yeah, Aaron Judge got at
some point, whether whether he wants to or not. But
you have a Yankee team now that has been in
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pretty much of a consistent free fall for the last
month and a half since Judge got hurt. They have
just not been playing well and they've gone from a
team where hey, we are gonna maybe contend for first place,
to hey, we've fallen behind, but we're in the lead
for a wild card. Now you got to jump the
Red Sox to get to the wild card, and you
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have Seattle who is coming on strong right behind you.
Get ready for a playoff less new manager next couple
of months for the Yankees, things are not trending.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Are they really gonna go all in for Otani and
make that trade to try to make the playoffs? This
is not what the Yankees do. This is what the
Yankees used to do. They used to make big trades
of the deadline and try to make sure, hey we
don't give any But this is not how the Yankees
do it anymore. The Yankees are more fiscally responsible. The
Yankees are quite Hey we're smarter now. This is not
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the Yankees how they like to do things. And I
guarantee you if the Angels can trade Otani anywhere the
two places they're not gonna trade them, the Dodgers and
the Yankees not gonna happen. But it's not that this
is what the Yankees do. They have just in a
free fall. They're they're not here. They're starting. Pitching has
been really, really rough, and what are you gonna do?
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I mean, if you're talking about this is a this
is a two month trend of we've been just spiraling
downward into oblivion. And you're gonna see a no playoff
year for the Yankees this year, and then you're gonna
see a new manager. Maybe it's Jojiroy.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Hey, Joe, come on back, Joe. We love you, we
miss you.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But you're gonna see no playoffs and a new manager
for the Yanks. And this is gonna be it for
Aaron Boone, who's gonna be getting thrown out of all
kinds of games coming out. He's gonna be getting upset.
They're gonna blame me. They're gonna blamet thrown out of games.
And maybe if I keep getting thrown out of games,
no one blames me as much, because maybe that's been
a strategy all along. If I get thrown out of
a lot of games, fans will think I care and
that I'm doing all I can and that we're getting
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screwed over by the umpires, and that they won't get
mad and say it's my fault. Ah, I see through
that Aaron boont misdirection.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Maybe see you, I see you. I'm really mad. I'm
fighting for my squad. They're battling hard up there. He
was on the Talking Yanks podcast, going back to the
Aaron Judge part of things, asked whether the beginning of
the July twenty fifth series against the Mets was a
realistic target. He didn't rule it out so not giving
a clear time timetable, but he didn't proclaim it a
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long standing issue. Seem to think that they've hit some
strides and maybe he can actually get back onto the field,
which would be great. Well. One of the teams who
is not adapted to the new twenty twenty three Major
League Baseball rules and the way the flow of a
game goes are your New York Yankees. Right now, there
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are only two teams with a worst team batting average
in the American League than them. Would you like to
guess who those are?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm gonna say the White Sox. Sorry, buddy, is it
too soon?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Not quite?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Is it too soon?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Not quite? Actually?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
White Sox are at two thirty nine? Oh wow? Sorry, Hey,
I was really wrong about that. Yanked Yankees are Hey,
they're nine. Yankees are tied for twelve with the Mariners.
They're both at two thirty one, and obviously you've got
Detroit and the lowly Oakland A's. The A's are hitting
two twenty one as a team, two twenty one.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
They have an excuse though they're leaving. They don't care.
Baseball is not a priority.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
They still have to play to uh earn a new contract.
I don't think, you know, I don't think that just
gets wiped away like a memory stick and men in blacks.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Just like when the Raiders left, Nobody really cares. You're
gonna get there. It's gonna be exciting, it's gonna be
glitz and.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Glamour, and I will worry about winning. Those guys will
start hitting, then that's impressive. But yeah, for the Yankees,
it's been a dismal season. Uh. In the starting pitching.
I mean, look, my guy Carlos Roddin, big fan of him,
was unavailable right finally actually had his first couple of
starts here of late. But that was a guy you
spent a lot of money on to try to anchor
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the start of your rotation and he was unavailable because
of injury. You look at your your roster as a whole.
And you know Rizzo's got his three p forty on
base percentage. I mean that's that's nothing based on where
he's been historically. The fact that Aaron Judge is still
your home run and RBI leader about tells you all
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you got you need to know. He's at nineteen home
runs and forty RBI and he still leads your squad.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Look, it's it's you have a lot of injuries, and
that's a big thing. Your starting pitching has not been good.
Your team is getting older and your younger players haven't
come through. It's kind of been the Mets, except with
a little bit less headlines because the Yankees didn't spend
three hundred and fifty million dollars this offseason. Yeah, your
your starting pitching has not been good. Your bullpen has
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been okay, but is the bullet that gonna be enough?
And you're hitting without Aaron Judge. Look look at how
much you're having trouble scoring runs, right, So when you
put all that together, yeah, you're gonna be an underachieving team. Honestly,
and I'm being honest with you, I'm surprised the Yankees
have been over five hundred for this long because they've
had a lot of problems for a long time and
it's a really tough division. I give them a lot
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of credit just for being able to keep their heads
above water. But now everything's coming home to roost. Now
you got all kinds of problems. You're not hitting, your
big hitters are older, they're not staying on the field.
Your starting pitching is not good.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
What are you gonna do.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're gonna trade for three pitchers. Hey, you're gonna get
shures are in for Enverlander. Hey take them. You spend
the money you can have shures are in for Lander.
And when you don't have your young players coming to
it's a thing, right, it's it's it's not it's not
some magical potion where you could say this one thing,
this is why the Yankees aren't winning. No, when this
is how it goes, this is and this is how
things end up for you. It's gonna end up with
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a new manager and no playoffs. Yeah, Aaron Boon will
be gone. And I mean this goes back to the
Sho hail Otani argument that well, we'll revisit here in
a moment, but yeah, let me bring up some of
those young guys how's.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That working out? For most of these teams, very few
organizations get it right. And the Yankees, we can go
back to our childhood and the number of guys that
passed through, maybe performed for half a season or a
full season, and then fell off a cliff, the great
Kevin Moss, who changed his stance once battingly did sure, right,
It's like, wait, that deep crouch is gonna screw up
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my back. Okay, let's shift and then that never worked. Yeah,
I'm back to the other one.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I just don't know that the Yankees can fix everything
that's wrong with the dead lifts. No chance, it's it's
it's one thing. If it was, well, what do we
need while our starting pitching is bad? So we can
go get a couple of innings eaters and maybe that
has some kind of effect on the team where okay,
we have guys pitching more innings, which allows less wear
and tear on the bullpen, which then allows Okay, I
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understand that, but there's too many things. There's too many
things they're not hitting. Then I started, I mean, what.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean, only once in a while, can you be
a team like the Braves? A couple of years ago
and the deadline going, we're five hundred, we're gonna bring in
four new starters, four new stars out out of our
starting eight, not counting the picture, and hey, it works
out for us. There's there's too many problems, and any
team that has too many problems you have to understand
you were selling. I understand the Mets are going to
be sellers. Why because they're starting rotations bad, they're not hitting,
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and their bullpen stinks. Not a lot else to the game,
not all their aspects to the game. But you can say, hey,
we can really win.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Get.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
No, when your starting pitching is not good, your team
isn't hitting, and your bullpen's not good, that's it. That's
really what can I say? Hey, first and third base
coaches are really good, man, I'll tell you we can
really focus. Actually get you have too many If you
on the base, if you have one problem, you can
fix it. If you're not hitting as well, you can
bring in a couple of hitters, right, I mean, if
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your bullpen stinks, you can bring in a couple of
pitches in the bullpen. But when you're saying it's bullpen
and its starters and forget it.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
You're don't forget the manager. He stinks to You're done.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
No, that's it. You're fighting a war on many many
fronts here. And Volpe, who you thought was gonna be
the guy, he's in two eight, right, you had to
send him down.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Everybody, No, everybody says he's going to be great. No, no,
don't worry about just five years. The Mets are going
to start hitting, that's all. You're gonna start winning games, yes,
but your point the other thing that hamstrings them. And
you've got the monster contracts for Judge and Stanton, so
those are over here, and Garrett Cole, like the three
of them, they've got their own little pool of cash.
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The the Yankees generally and bringing people in there. They're
not the team that's aggressively going that way. And we
talk about their prospects. Who are you convincing to take
any of these guys as a as a big piece
to go get a top line starter or a bat
for the middle of your order.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Doesn't exist like you don't have those assets. Jason Domingez,
get out of here. He's a nobody right now.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's a it's a case of understanding when you've had
enough and it's time to move on. It's difficult, right
because you still think there's two months to go in
the Major League Baseball. So now we can still turn
it around it with the extra playoff burst. As long
as we're around five hundred, everything is gonna be okay. No,
sometimes you have to understand it's just not there for us, right,
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And the Yankees aren't there yet, but they're on their
way there, and there's two weeks to go to get there.
They will be there. They and the Mets and the
Padres will be in the same spot in a couple
of weeks. It's gonna be boy, the Yankees will be
looking up at a couple more teams potentially ahead of them.
Because the Mariners are playing bad. The Mariners have to
start playing up to cap Bill. That's all it was.
I cursed them by saying they're going to the world.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They've just stuck you and JP and yeah, yeah, they
jumped on that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
They've they've just stunk. But they're playing better. They're catching
up to them. You have a couple of teams in
the in the Al Central some but he's going to
be get above five hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No one's gonna win that that division eighty and eighty two.
It would be kind of cool to say it would
be just a wave at the Yankees while they're in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But somebody's gonna start winning games. You've got a couple
of teams right around five hundred. They're gonna battle all
the way down. Just whatch I'm telling you? For the Yankees,
it double barrel hits you, no playoff, new manager, That's
how it's going to work.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I reference Jason Demingez those that follow the prospecting market
and certainly trading guards collectibles. He was the hot thing.
He's nineteen years old, so still plenty of time to
prove people right. Currently in double A, he's hitting two seventeen.
He's struck out ninety eight times in three hundred and
fifty eight at bats.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Hey, if you're in a fantasy league, do you get
points for your players striking out? That's a good bad Yeah.
If you have one of those crazy fantasy leagues where
you have to be worse, everything's back wins.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 1 (12:58):
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And let me tell you something that has been long
We've long talked about here on the show. But now
we have an official number for you, an official number,
official number for you. Okay, because most of the games
are over, we got four TVs in front of us here.
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We have John Wick two, which you know my feelings
about the John Wick series, the John Wick Common fight
scene yep, okay, on broadcast television. So it's counting commercials. Yeah,
so I got a cont commercial, the John Wick Common
fight in John Wick two on broadcast television thirty nine
minutes and fifty seconds long.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So with commercials, with commercials, everything is thirty minutes. It
is forty minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Longer than the Angel Yankee Ga, Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You get you get fits. It's it's ten seconds, shy,
And I'm counting from the beginning, right when Keanu Reeves
sees Common for the first time, You're ready to find
all the way till the end, when the when the
subway goes and the look on Common's faces, like thirty
nine minutes and fifty second.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You can you can add opening credits, closing credits and
put that out as an hour long drama, right, it's
like forty four to forty five minutes a drama show.
Four minutes. Yeah, yeah you can, yeah you can. I mean,
do you have a long intro and you know little
anime John Wick running around? It's just an hour show
of and you have a little bit of intro. It's
just a common fight scene.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You just need you just need so forty four minutes, right,
so you have so you need two minutes. You need
an open and a close.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think this works.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You a two minute open and then a two minute close,
going hey, there it is. You know it's an hour
what is it's the John Wick common fight scene. Then
here it is presented. It would do that very well,
of course it would that network tell I would start
a channel just to have that on there.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
For AISO outdraw young Sheldon. Ooh if I told you
got to listen to the whole show. Here's an hour
show and it's the John Wick common fight scene, everybody
would watch it. I think I'm in coming up after
that top Gun Maverick, and it's entirety coming up to
Top Gun into Top Gun Maverick. Did you see they
did that at Red Rocks earlier?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
This?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, crazy? Is that sold out Red Rocks with
Top Gun Maverick?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Not only that Fast and the Furious in chronological order,
so Part one, Part two up until the last three minutes,
Part six, Part three, Part four, Part five, then the
last three minutes of part two, then part seven, like
I would do that all in order like that, remember
when the years that, hey, they're showing the Godfather and
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in order from the beginning of the always through Star
with DeNiro, whateverything else.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Man, that's how you repackage. It's that's TV. I mean,
that's Aerosmith and fourteen live albums. That's Garth Brooks selling
you the same songs in the eighth different configuration. Good
on you, man, kick repackaging, there wouldn't be a need
for other TV networks if I just have what's going
What's tonight? Man? Oh dude, Joe Jason Smith has on
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his network.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's it's it's the common John Wick fight scene and
from eight to nine.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well we have two now though we have that, but
then we also still have all the made up ones
from the true TV or not. Oh yeah, yeah, that
would be a lot of shows on there. Yeah, sure,
so we could, we could program a couple of channels.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
But just oh that would be sobby so great. That'd
be so great.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's an hour special. Yeah, that's it. You can do
it out the holidays.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's a holidays.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
It's a John Wick holiday.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah sure, and you gotta you just
need two minutes to introduced it because even with your
tag enemy, you can sit down and have a drink,
Yes you can in the minute and stop and catch
your breath in a giant you want to stop and
catch your breath and think about the world that is,
maybe you have Michael Booblea comes in and sings this song,
I just yet put that over the top, and then
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you get back to fighting.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Twitter, and how about a Fresco Mike get swelling dome
thirty nine minutes and fifty seconds long.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's pretty impressive on TV.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Uh. Now, we have a lot of upset NFL running backs,
many of them, not just the ones that couldn't figure
out a deal with their new team.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I think just Christian McCaffrey right now is happy. I
don't think is he really chimed.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
In, well, Derek, heck, he's gotten a lot of money. Yeah,
McCaffrey's got paid, and Derreck Henry's at the end of
his big contracts, so he got paid. But after the
news yesterday, no deal for Saquon Barkley, no deal for
Tony Pollard, and no deal for your reigning rushing champion
Josh Jacobs. So all three of these players, if they
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decide to, will play this season under the franchise tag,
which will get them approximately ten million dollars this year.
We've already seen Saquon Barkley say I'm not coming to camp.
I'm holding out. And after this news got out yesterday,
it is spread like wildfire. Yeah, spread like what yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean that's it. You ain't not wildfire the horse? No, no, no, yeah,
Christian McCaffery. I read the tweet. I forgot who it
was attributed to. Right, this is criminal. Three of the
best players in the entire league, regardless of position. Jonathan
Taylor Thomas very upset as well was Derreck Henry saying
why not just outlaw the running back position? Why why
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would you grow up and want to be a running back?
Running backs are mad and they're all trying to mass
and get together and say, how do we solve this
because we used to make all kinds of money and
now we don't. We're seen as replaceable pieces. They're going
after people on social media that it said, hey, uh yeah,
the NFL has said we don't really need to pay
you because we're gonna pay quarterbacks instead. It is a
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very difficult time right now. We had Jason Cole last
hour NFL Insider gave us the best reaction, which was,
don't be upset at the teams. Be upset at.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Your negotiators who ten years ago decided for this new
rookie deal where it's going to be five years and
then you can get franchise. That's your entire length of
a running back career is six years. So yeah, you
want to be able to make more money. It should
have been it should have been lesser deal, should have
been a three year deal, and then you hit free
agency as a running back, then you get two bites
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at the apple. But when you decide, hey we're okay
with four years and a fifth year, of course they're
going to exercise it. Then you're really good. We can
franchise you and franchise you again. That's your career, that's
your absolute whole career. But no matter what, the solution is, Okay,
just to move this conversation forward and give you something
you haven't hurt. The worst thing you can do, and
I get your upset, I understand. I understand. When you
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love what you do for a living and it doesn't
love you back, the worst thing you can do is
hold out. That's the absolute worst thing you can do
because you're doing nothing but potentially torpedoing your career. Because
look at what happened. Right, Let's just go over what
happens when you hold out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So a run.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Let's say sa Kuon Barkley holds out. What's the most
likely outcome from this? He holds out for a while,
and he works out, but he's not in football shape.
And then when he finally does sign and come back,
does he get a ton of money. No, the Giants
will give him a little bit of incentive to come
in and play this year, not nearly what it would
be to spend and sign him for a long term deal,
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but we'll give you a little bit of money so
you can come in here and play. Okay, great, So
he comes in late, comes in not in shape. What
likely happens he gets hurt. Happens to all guys, because
it's not the same. You don't get your body doesn't
get used to the pounding as you do when you
come to training camp, and you wind up getting hurt.
You try to go too fast, too soon. It's soft
tissue injuries like a hamstring or a knee or something,
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and you don't have a big season. And when you
don't have a big season, a team says, well, we
don't even need to franchise you now, we're just gonna
let you go. And another team is gonna say, yeah,
we'll sign you, but we're not gonna give you a
lot of money because you're coming off a really bad
year and you're twenty seven years old. Right now, you're
twenty eight years old, you're nearing the end. Would we
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want you for a year, yeah, but we're not gonna
pay you. And suddenly you are looking at your future
a year from now where you are saying, I'm not
getting paid at all. Those are the likely outcomes when
you hold out. Sometimes you hold out all the way
into the season. You're coming in, the team has moved
on from you, They're not gonna suddenly give you the
ball twenty two times a game and you're not rushing
for one hundred yards. You're rushing for fifty five yards. Which, again,
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when you hit free agency or the season ends, the
team sides, we don't really need to pay you. No
other team is going to pay you either. Good luck.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
What you need to do is, if.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
You're Saquon Barkley is I know it sucks, but suck
it up, come to camp, play all season, have another
big year, make ten million dollars this year. Then you're
in the same position next off season. What's the worst
thing they can do. We're gonna franchise you again, where
next year running backs are probably gonna make around thirteen million. Okay,
so you make thirteen million dollars for next year, and
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in the grand scheme of things, you say, well, for
these last two years, I made twenty three million dollars. Right,
I'm not gonna be upset that, Oh I only made
twenty three million dollars in two seasons. Yes, the possibility
of getting hurt is there, but that's there for everybody, right,
possibility for quarterback getting hurt, of a defensive back getting
hurt of a left tackle getting hurt. That's out there.
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It's tackle football. It's how it goes. Yes, I know, yes,
we play a heavy traffic position, so do guys on
the interior of the line right and they go out
and play. The worst thing you can do is hold out.
That will absolutely screw the possibility of getting screwed. Is
mens play. I know it sucks. Play well, stay, don't
do anything that differentiates from the offseason. Everything you need
to do to get ready for the year, to get
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ready to get a heavy workload. If Saquon Barkley shows up,
the Giants will still give them the football a ton,
They'll throw it to him out of the backfield. They
have a chance for another big year, thirteen million next
year or maybe then after. Okay, how about two years
and twenty six million. Hey, suddenly, now you're making almost
forty million in two years or in a three year span.
That's what you have to do. But if you walk away,
if you decide to play hardball and say I'm pissed
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and i want more money, the money's not gonna be there.
The Giants could have given you the money if they
wanted to.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
They have not.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Other teams look at Le'Veon Bell, who ad ago said,
boy Die screwed up. I should have never left Pittsburgh.
It's like if you were looking for a sign from
the fates and from the football God's boy, just show
me a sign what to do. Here's Le'Veon Bell who
sat out an entire season, never made that money back,
be his career was over not two years after that.
That's the sign saying, hey, sitting out that doesn't is
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not something that's gonna help you.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think what's the old rule of thumb, Right,
if you're angry with your partner, your spouse, the people
you work with, your boss, whatever, you know, the old
count to ten, go for a walk and then revisit it,
because you know the next thing out of your mouth
is not going to be conducive to bridging any gap
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that you're having in said argument. It's got to where
we're at with this, all right, go back to your pace,
isn't Look, this has been going on for months, so
they've said what they need to say. Now you play
it out in the media a little bit, and and yes,
you know the violins are playing to a degree. Right.
You had some bogus stat someone tried to say, well, look,
kickers make more on average and running Yeah, there's a
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lot more running backs then guys that kick for teams,
So push that argument out altogether. But you've just watched
player after player being able to rise up, and that's
been one of the great things about the position. But
when it comes to getting paid in top dollar, as
the game has changed, as the points of emphasis have changed,
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and everything is about the quarterback, quick strike offenses, defensive
backs can't touch guys in the open field, as the
wide receivers are getting into their routes. Right, all of
those things play into so putitive for pass interference that
you're backing off that you've got all of those rules.
So yes, the running back kind of pushed away, and
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yes you catch passes, and we recognize the dual threat
running backs, but you're not getting reclassified because that's the
end game to all of this, Right, whether you get hurt,
whether your productivity dips, whether you overachieve, and you know what,
I'll show them and you get go for better numbers,
your team is better and everything else works. You're still
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a running back a year older. You're still competing with
other players who may not have gotten a chance with
their respective teams, right, buried on a depth chart because
they have a Derrick Henry buried on the depth chart,
because Saquon Barkley had been there, and they now are
in the position of, hey, I get an opportunity. Oh
and those guys coming from college are coming to claim
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your job as well, right, I mean the franchise tag,
the rookie Wade scale, all of those things play into
you agreed to this, so you're getting the average of
the top five dollars. You're right at the top five
players at your position. You're getting the average of their contracts.
I get it. Short term, it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Go play.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Maybe there's a little difference at the window next year.
And I understand for Sakuon Barkley if they'd maybe gotten
to that twenty three number, right, the estimation of next
year and this year in terms of guaranteed money he
may have signed. We don't know what reality is of
what that dollar amount that hasn't been put out by
any insider or leaked. And he's like, no, no, no, I
was asking for seventeen a year, like we heard. Sixteen
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might have been the upper range, but that was all
just rumor, conjecture, speculation, trying to be in line with
what your top running backs are getting. But the game changes,
the game evolves. It doesn't mean we don't love running
backs the same way. It's just there is the wear
and tear on the body and enough data points. Because
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you know, as prosper would love to chime in, it
always comes back to its science.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We've seen the game, right, We've seen the carry logs
oys right between age, carries, receptions and everything that you do.
Very few running backs keep on trucking into their thirties.
There's a few more. You get a couple, but their outliers. Right,
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It's like people thinking that everybody's going to play to
their forty at the quarterback position because Rogers is getting there,
Breeze barely got there with his arm falling off, and
then you had Brady, and then Warren Moon did in age.
But but you have all of that where it's like
otherwise guys are falling off a cliff as they approach
which to that number. Except for a couple of outliers,
the running back position has been the same thing for
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guys that have been belcows, where you would be saying
we need to pay them top dollar. So maybe they
play a different role, extend their career and they're making
five million a year from multiple years thereafter. But the
game has changed. You have two three running backs, plus
the quarterbacks are more mobile. Right justin fields. Eleven hundred
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and forty three rushing yards last year, Lamar Jackson flirts
with a thousand, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, keep on going
down the line. You got a lot of guys that
get up there of their own rushing yards and touchdowns
that are vulturing away from the heights you might have
achieved ten years ago when they would have just shoved
it in your gut. That's not the way the game
works anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, it's look, I feel bad, but this is how
it goes. No one said, you know ten years ago, Hey,
you know, we gotta do something because guards aren't getting paid.
Like okay, guards never got paid. They were get by guys. Now,
hey we pay guards. Oh why do you pay middle
lineback You gotta pay that now, middle linebackers getting paid.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Right, This is how it goes. And I'm sorry and
it sucks, but this is just how.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The game goes. This is how it is, and the
worst thing you can do is be upset and not play.
You will falter and Saquon Barkley will never get If
he sits out, he will never get paid. This is
the guy that's already had all kinds of injury problems
throughout his career. He sits out and tries to come back.
Good luck, good luck. All you're doing is holding it
out there that I could have a really bad year
that I'm never gonna get paid again.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
By the way, I've also seen it proffered from folks
that say, well, what if Josh Jacobs because the Raiders
may not be viable at all, But hey, it's trying
to out because we're tanking for Caleb Williams. But you
stay out with no way we're signing the idea that,
you know, an ankle injury becomes that much more tender.
I'm like, yeah, because that's gonna help his bargaining position.
Dumb is that argument too? Like people just one thing
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after another. It's like connect the dots in the logic.
Man go to point from B to C. You say, oh,
I'll show him I'll miss four games with that ankle. Yeah,
because that's gonna help you when you go to get
a contract next year. Whatever you do, don't hold out.
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Speaker 4 (29:18):
Oh is this limb biscuit?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, look, it's not Tears for Fears? I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Did you want? Is that a request?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I mean if it's not Tears for Fears, then I
really don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That's kind of how I'm ready you When is that concert?
So we never have to hear these songs again?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Everybody, you'll know when's that happening? When does it happen?
We'll have you back by eleven.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I'm just kidding, we'll have you back by them. Mike Harmon, Yeah,
wearing one of those sweatshirts that helps you lose weight. Right,
it's in one of those one of those I don't know,
heavy vest things that that that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
No, it's not waiting, it's just kind of like the
therm ole. It's got the nia preen. No, it does.
It's good. It's Goodson klingy. I mean, I could paint
a logo on here, like I'm a superhero, Jason.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Try it on, yet I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Come on, you can know how sweat he is. A
game warn dude, there's no way the game war. How
sweaty he is.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Game warn.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Right now, he's gonna pass out. He's gonna get all
loopy because he's sweating so much. Man, I'm not gonna
do I'm gonna have to cut him out of it.
I'm gonna have to use the jaws of life just
to get him out of gut him out. He's all right,
but still I don't know that Harmon is sweating as
much as.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
The Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Who in the last twenty four hours I've seen their
best player in MVP Joel Embiid say hey, I want
to win in Philadelphia or someplace else. And then you
get Daryl Morey saying today, hey, when we trade James Harden,
we have to get a championship level player or package
back for him so we can stay a championship level team.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, he said a conversation that he reiterated that he'd
rather be someplace else.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, here's the thing that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
This is not twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's not twenty seventeen where James Harden look at the
back of his basketball card. No, James Harden's kind of
just a guy. James rvi Will scored twenty two points
a game. There's ninety guys in the NBA that scored
twenty two a game. He is just a guy. You
have seen that last year with Joel Embiid winning MVP
and James Harden, you still couldn't get out of the
(31:29):
second round of the playoffs. You have watched other teams
in the Eastern Conference all improved. The Celtics got better,
the Knicks got better, the Heat are However, many weeks
it's going to be away from getting Damian Lillard, They're
going to be better. The Bucks have gotten better. Everybody's improved.
This is going to be an absolute I don't want
(31:50):
to say see change in the NBA, but whether it's
this offseason or next, Joel Embiid is gone. He has
said I can win someplace e He's doing the Russell Wilson.
I'm saying it now because if things don't work out
and I get traded this offseason, great. If not, I'm
going someplace next off season. He has put everybody in
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that organization on notice that I can win someplace else
and you're not gonna get better. He sees they're not
gonna get better. Nick Nurse, doesn't matter, doesn't matter that no,
Nick Nurse want to tie it. Yeah, it's still the
same players and less of a group that you're gonna
have because you're not gonna get as much for James
Harden as you thought you were going to get.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
He's going to be gone.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It's just a matter of whether it's gonna be this
offseason or next because if nothing happens and the hard
and trade is not good and it's not, he's gonna
say I want out, And then the end of the
summer is gonna be the Joel Embiid sweepstakes and the
Knicks are gonna get him because they have all kinds
stuff to get up. Okay, let's just me projecting it,
but they do. You are projecting your em beat is
gone and whether it's whether it's now or next off
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season and beat is gone.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's been a lot of talk of all, right,
here's Terrence Man, Here's he's like the base of a
pasackage to send Hard into is what is believed to
be his preferred destination of the Clippers. But does that
for some scary I mean, that's not the four horsemen,
because most of those guys they playing every night. Yeah right,
Paul George and Kawhi, Leonard Westbrook is back on a
(33:17):
minimal deal, and you bring in James Harden? Is that
getting you over? How are you guaranteeing that those guys
are together to play in mid April?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
He's a way better fit with the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Stop, But do they want to make like it goes
back to the baseball argument of O O Taani And
already Moreno's saying here, Dodgers, I'll look at him up
on the up the five, good good luck. Yeah, let's
trade this guy to the Knicks and watch Thibodeau win.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
He's gonna be gone. Look, it's about Embiid. Nothing's gonna
happen to make him happy to be a sixer, and
he's gonna say I went out. He's already shown I'm
not afraid of saying I could win someplace else.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Embiid's gonna be gone just a matter of time.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, Yeah, we could send Harden to the Dicks. No,
that's not that's fine. Two big stories out of the NFL. Next,
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