August 3, 2023 • 29 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why there is no quarterback under more pressure this season than Dak Prescott. Pete Fiutak from College Football News swings by for all the latest from the BIG 10, Pac-12 and ACC. Plus, the Progressive play of the night!
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Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight of The Jason Smith
Show with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Happy Jets Day.
We've made it. We've made Jets to the beginning of.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
The NFL season.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We're gonna get a game coming up later on tonight
the Jets are playing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
The beginning of the run to the super Bowl starts
at it all starts tonight. We made it to another
season in the NFL. The Zach attack begins.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He's gonna see it on Aaron Rogers starting job or
the potential to be traded for a bounty of draft picks.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Okay, just kidding. Yeah, here's here's the thing about thrillers
on a Thursday night. First of all, Zach Wilson is
not even gonna play. Okay, First of all. No, Aaron
Rodgers knows Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I saw the game plan, Jason, he's playing.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know, just think about this for a second, right,
Zach Wilson has been all smiles. Hey, I'm learning a lot,
learning a lot. How do you think he felt after
seeing that in the last week. Oh, dude, just gave
back thirty three million dollars. He's gonna stay two or
three more years. That's the end of my contract here. Yeah,
I'm done here.
Speaker 8 (01:37):
I'm so done. I would have to go someplace else
as a backup. There's no way they're gonna keep me
after my contract is up. Yeah, all right, that that stinks.
That's that's uh. Zach Wilson the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Oh, it's gonna be brilliant though. I mean, watching him
work and try to battle day for day. I mean,
that's one of the great heartwarming stories sure to come
on Hard Knocks mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Oh and oh, by the way, my live Schreber haham.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Last year's quarterback, Zach Wilson is terrible. He will not
be playing this season. There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
I think sometimes you need that to him because he
was terrible last year.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He was. He was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Jason, I saw the script.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Did I say.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
He's not going to have an incompletion all night?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Look? How good? Look how good Zach Wilson is has he.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
He's Jimmy is incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Jim Oh, it's Happy Jets Day, Happy Jets Day.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
The day is here, We're here. It's Jets Day, Jets, Jets, Jets.
Che's now while we're getting set for a game. And
believe me, a four hour, full breakdown of the Jets
and the Browns tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
No question about it.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Whether or not it's players you heard of or not,
it makes no difference. We have real live NFL football
on TV. We now know and if you didn't before today,
today made it crystal clear. Dak Prescott is the player
with the most pressure on him in all of the
National Football League and it's not even close today at
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Cowboys camp, it's not the biggest to do. But something
happened that's just gonna illustrate my point. During a drill today,
Dak Prescott scrambled outside the pocket ran for a touchdown.
He was met in the end zone by cornerback Travon Diggs,
who had a great year last year. One of the
best defensive players on the Cowboys, and Digg said to him,
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shut yo, blank blank up, whoa, whoa. This is what
happens when they met in the end zone. Also, Malie
Hooker had a big exchange with Dak Prescott, but it's
unclear what was said or what was at the root
of both of these interactions with Dak Prescott. But what
this should tell you is that there are no more
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free lunch's free passes for Dak Prescott. He has embraced
being a superstar. He loves being a superstar. He is
getting paid to be a superstar. But now it is
different and Dak Prescott needs to come through this year
or there's gonna be changes in the offseason. The Cowboys
gonna look to move on. Everything changed for Dak in
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the playoff game to the Niners. We talked about it
right after it happened. There was a big change because
you could see there's a difference in how Jerry Jones how,
some of the players, how some of the coaches talked
about Dak Prescott. We got a new oc coming in
now because of this. He was just so awful against
the forty nine Ers in a game in which they
walked away from that, going, how we just been able
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to get a touchdown, we would have won this game, right,
just been able to well, and one more extra point
for bet mare. Have we just been able to get
a touchdown? We could have won this game. But it said,
what do we get? Dak turned the ball over twice
in the first half interceptions, couldn't move the team down
the field at all. I get that the Niners have
a great defense and they were absolutely loaded last year,
but Dak Prescott's getting paid a ton of money right
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to outplay Brock Purty. And that was a stark reminder
that we paid Dak Prescott, who was just okay because
you had teams that were pretty equal, right, you had
teams who were pretty equally. The Cowboys defense was really good,
Niners defense was better, but Cowboys defense was pretty good.
Cowboys weapons, Cowboys weapons were pretty good. Niners weapons were
pretty good. Cowboys lost Tony Pollard at halftime of that game.
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So this is Dak, this is your time, man. You
got to bring us down. This is why you've got
all this money.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And he didn't do it.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
And what happened? Who was the guy that led his
team down? Brock Purty, who's getting paid twenty bucks a
day plus meal expenses. He's the one that got them
into the end zone and he's the guy that's the
starting quarterback now for the San Francisco forty nine ers
as they try to get to the Super Bowl. Mister irrelevant,
outplayed your forty million dollar a year quarterback. Everything changed
for Dak Prescott then now coming into this year, it's different.
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His teammates, as you can tell right now, they need
more from him. Right Diggs and Hook aren't going at
him like this unless he needs to be challenged and
we need more. Jerry Jones knows he needs more out
of Dak Prescott. Everybody knows. Nobody with more. There's a
lot of guys with pressure. Aaron Rodgers in New York
pressure pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, right, all kinds of Justin
Herbert New Contract pressure pressure, pressure, pressure. Joe Burrow wants
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a pressure. Josh Allen pressure pressure everywhere. Nobody with more
pressure than Dak Prescott. Because after this season, trust me,
things will change and you could see a new quarterback
in Dallas after the season.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Callen Moore is gone.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Part of the Charger brand that our guy Justin frostbered
I'll be working through this season. He's working to find
the scripts for us as we speak. So you got
Brian Schottenheimer and Mike McCarthy calling plays. You've got a
pretty robust receiving corps, assuming you know, we come into
the season healthy. So you get a little bit excited
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about the depth chart as it's been constructed. Brandon Cooks
now part of the fold, along with Michael Gallup who
shown in spots still coming off the injury last year.
Offensive line is pretty strong, but you got to take
care of Zach Martin, right, that's the lynch pin do
onto all of it and making sure that you've got
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him under contract ready to go. Davis Vaughn, whoever is
running the football, Yeah, they're not Tony Pollard. I have
to imagine that eventually he shows up, because five hundred
thousand dollars a week is an awful lot of scratch
to leave around, particularly when you're coming off of a
big injury. Right, because he's different than the others, right,
Josh Jacobs was different because they didn't want his fifty
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year option. He's a raider. All of these things. There's
a battle there. So he with the LAS Vegas is
in one bucket. You had Sakwan Barkley, who they finagled
some things which I didn't know was able you were
able to do in the contracts to the CBA, but hey,
they found it some wiggle room for some incentive stuff
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and an upfront cash payment. It worked for Tony Pollard.
He's another one of those guys that's in the mold
of just like Austin Eckler of all right, you got
an opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Uh you know where you weren't coming in highly heralded
as a as a huge prospect behind Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But now you can be the guy.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So there's still some pieces to go through. You talk
about the animus with the defense, Yeah, they carried things
down that stretch and gave them at every opportunity to
win the game. So're gonna be a little bit there.
And obviously in camp when a lot of ink has
been slung and Jerry's talked up Dak and everybody as
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being world beaters. When your defense can win a lot
of those head to head drills, yeah they're gonna start
to strut, but they're also gonna kind of push the offense,
and you know, kind of the rocky mister t ain't
so bad?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And that's kind of what we got here, right, a
little bit of hey, come on, let's amp it up
some and elevate play. So little bit of excitement is it?
Are they gonna be quick to pull the trigger? Nah,
Jerry's too loyal. I think Dak's got plenty of weary
miles because you could say, well, it's a new OC
and all of these things, and DAK has put up
some spectacular numbers and certainly CD Lamb being drafted as
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though they will do it again in fantasy leagues.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I don't think the page turns quite so fast. I
think there's other teams that will launch their their quarterbacks
into the stratosphere before Dallas does.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
I think things are different after that Niners game. That
Niners game was a big change.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
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Speaker 3 (09:45):
You think Jerry remembers that, of course he does. That
was it?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
They should have won. I'm paying my quarterback forty million
dollars a year. They're paying their quarterback two hundred grand,
and we couldn't get a touchdown and win. He has
a bad year, or the Cowboys don't go far. Right,
Let's just say Dak has a very Dak type year
where he's been good, but the Cowboys don't go far,
don't They don't go far in the playoffs. The Cowboys
are gonna sit back and go, Man, we've seen the
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best of Dak Prescott, and we can't win games that
we think we should because the Cowboys one of those
few teams in sports that still measure themselves by championships. Right,
And that's the one thing you can say about Jerry Jones,
as bad of a GM as he's been since he's
on the team, he wants to win, all right. And
I know he wants to win and he's bad at it,
but he wants to win. And so you're gonna look
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at this team and go, we've had Dak for just
about a decade, and look where we are. The guy's
just okay, he hasn't done anything we have. We can't
advance on the playoffs. They're going to say it is
time to move on because it is still fresh in
their mind that Cooper Rush is lack of not not
as talented as he is, came in in, won games, right.
The team galvanized themselves behind Cooper Rush and they won games.
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They're gonna get out of this next season disappointing by
Dak Prescott and say, are we really gonna win by
Dak out there? We've made all kinds of moves around
him for a long time now and it just hasn't worked.
We've had running backs, we've had wide receivers, we've had
offensive line, we've had defense, we've had everything, and Dak
hasn't won. And you're gonna see Dak Prescott trade rumors.
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You're gonna see the tide turning against him from the
from the fans, from the team, from the media, from
inside the organization, because what are we paying this guy for?
And there will be teams that want Dak Prescott. Their
jee's going, hey, you know our quarterback stinks right now.
We'd love to get a guy like Dak Prescott. So okay, yeah,
is the money that you're paying him that crazy? No,
we can do it, and the Cowboys will start over.
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There will be somebody who is the apple of Jerry's eye.
You will hear rumors through the season, Boy, Jerry Jones
really likes this guy. And that's or they're gonna go
after the end of the season, right, They're just not
going to go forward again saying we're gonna keep banging
our head against the wall with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
If he had a big playoff.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Game and they lost to the to the Niners, I
get it, but I'm telling you you can tell something
is now different about Dak after that game. There is
way more pressure and a bad season isn't gonna mean
suddenly he comes back. Yes, I know he's got a
he's got a big dead cap hit at sixty two
million dollars, But look, don't ever look at that and
say that can't make a deal get done. Because Aaron
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Rodgers got traded and he had a contract that was.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh, you can't do it. Look at the dead cat money,
he's ninety eight million dollars.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Well, not only did he get traded, he said I'll
take less money and I'll work it out. You can
always work out the money. Don't look at a dead
cap hit or some kind of contract and go this
guy is absolutely untradable in the NFL because you can
make it work. Oh, Justin Verlander's not tradable. Turns out
Justin Verlander was really really tradable. You can make the
money work. Other teams will make the money work, and
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Dallas will have a new quarterback after the season.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Remember, there's always another dope out there. If you find
that you're the one in the room, move to another
room and find the next and so that would be
what you're doing here. Welcome, Welcome to starting quarterback Land
Will Greer.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Get it on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, Hey, guess what. Look who's starting for the race
twenty twenty four. It's Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Get ready because you know that's the first place, that's
the first place they'll go.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's a very yeah. Dag attag in vegasagatag dag.
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
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down to the Jets and the team the Jets are
playing in the Hall of Fame game. Yeah, we have
had a big last couple of days in college football,
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the end of the Pac twelve sure, now the end
of the ACC probably joining us now on the hotline
to break it all down. Nobody Better the owner, editor,
proprietor College Footballnews dot com. You can check him out.
He's got all the previews, all the info you need.
Longtime friend of the show, Pete Futech. You can follow
(14:12):
him on Twitter at Pete Futech. No better college football
insider who is really sucking it up tonight As I'm
counting down to the Jets, Pete Futech is about nine
hours away from the beginning of Lollapalooza that he is
ready to attend. Pete, thank you for stopping by. Are
you just gonna stay up all night until Lollapalooza starts
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at ten o'clock tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (14:35):
No? See, here's my thing. I am old, So being old,
I don't I'm not going to Luda. I go to
the after shows that have like the more and stuff
so I can do. I go to the ones that
have you know, I just the band I want to see.
I'll see it like the Metro at some things like that. So,
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but standing outside with a bunch of people, well, well,
pretty much a third of my age at this point.
There's no I'm too old for these bands that are
out right now except for Red Hot Chili Peppers is
the one band from my era. And that's about it
is this show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So you're not done, Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
You're not going to see Landa del Ray like you're
going to see like the Lumineers in a in an
intimate setting.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
Actually in the weird part. Yeah, So I just saw
it this very XMU breathy band called Men I trust.
I'm seeing Silvanetts though on Sunday night, and usually I
would go see the DJs because that's just the type
of person I am. And my daughters are seeing Mona
del Ray and Billie Eilish, those are the ones that
they're into.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yes, oh very nice.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
All right, So as you're getting ready for this, you're
getting ready for the intimate settings the craziness of college
football the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's start with the PAC twelve four.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You get to the ACC, the Big ten, says they
want to talk with Oregon, Washington, Cal Stanford, but they
want to back off.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They don't want to be seen as predatory. Yet too
late for that, Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
With this news coming off, the past twelve announced it
yesterday that they could have a streaming partner for games.
That's kind of been met with a shrug. Is there
any way the PAC twelve survives? I mean, I just
think it's a matter. It's dying right now, and I
don't know what the time of death is gonna be.
But these schools are all going to go to the
Big ten and and the PAC twelve is going to
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be the PAC eight, the PAC six with a bunch
of also ran schools trying to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Make it up.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
Well, here's the problem. I still think that there is
going to be a PAC twelve in some form because
what's getting lost here is that there isn't exactly a
chair for everybody. So like this thought of oh, we're
gonna go to twenty teams, like the Big twelve doesn't
have the money to do this. They can top out
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at about fourteen teams, so they can top up by
taking Arizona. And let's say they're gonna go ahead Utah
doesn't seem to be interested, so maybe Arizona State, but
they would rather not do that. They're just going to
ghost Yukon who through his whole thing, and they're saying, Oh,
we're gonna take Yukon basketball. I'm we're going to expand
our quick print. Now now they're going to go for
a couple more packed teams. But they don't. Their money
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isn't there. And what's going to be interesting about this
whole process is will the money be there five years
from now? Because these deals are all based on traditional
network contracts. That says that one of these big major
you know networks is going to pay all this money
for these deals. But what's missing is and this is
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where you know, I Joe gam old blah blah blah.
But where we're missing as old people is young people
don't watch TV. They stream. So the idea of like, yeah,
the of Apple being the main partner for the PAC twelve, well,
you're talking to a bunch of old college presidents and
a bunch of old athletic directors who don't get it
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that this is actually probably the more progressively correct deal,
but it's way too hard of a sell and you're
gonna base your athletic budget and your athletic department budget
on subscription to a streaming service. But if you think
about this through, it's Apple, it could be Nike, if
Oregon's still a part of this, it's the Beats brand.
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It's all the different marketing arms that could make this
thing really rock. But it is way too out there
for a budget athletic directors who just want to take
the money and keep things going.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yeah, and when you look at the PAC twelve, they're
run by a guy whose main endorser was was Shill,
and we see what a bangup job he's doing at Northwestern. Yeah.
But continuing along the rights passage acc deal. From everything
I've read, Pete, I kept checking the math, twenty thirty
six is what they're signed up through. So Florida State
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has one big year, a first ten win season in
quite some time, and all of a sudden they're trying
to flex. How does that end in the ACZ.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
How quickly do they splinter off?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I don't think they do, because you're twenty thirty six.
There's a waffer. It's a create should notice off the
top of my head. But it's not just you know,
like getting a San Diego State where you say, okay,
it's a thirty four million dollar extra fee if you're
leaving the ACC. It's it's kind of like you know,
smashing your rental car you're passing, you have to pay
for like loss of use. You have to pay for
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all the money you would have made for. It's a
really really bad deal for all the ACC teams that
are in there. And but that might not be that
much if somebody really wants Florida State. As I keep saying,
we're not talking about a ton of money here, because
justin Herbert's going to make ten to twenty million dollars
more per year over the next five years, and Colorado's
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going to make off for this big twelve deal. I mean,
it's in the sports business world. It's a lot of
money to normal people. But it's just not that much.
And the other part of this thing, too, is who
really desperately wants Florida State and why? Because if you're
the SEC, you've pretty much already dominated the Florida market.
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Florida State doesn't exactly lifts your overall brand unless you
can say, well, they're going to be worth fifty million
dollars extra a year in TV packaging Big Ten. It
doesn't Florida State doesn't fit the Big Ten. It just
especially you know, I'm not gonna get political here, but
especially with what's happening kind of around that Stayton, that's
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the flagship at the moment, that doesn't quite fit what
Big ten presidents are going to be into, even though
the academic side of things is all there. So I've
Florida State's certainly talking big, but they're all talking big
because they just want more money and I think they're
going to get that eventually from the ACC.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
But Pete, but here's here, let me do the flip
side of that. Now doesn't need to be the Big
Ten could be the sec right if they because you're
talking about if Florida State leaves, and it's talking about leaving.
Miami's not staying so they'll go, and Clemson's not staying
so they'll go. You're talking about them where they're going.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Who's got all this money? And that's I mean, they're
not getting a seventy million that the big And that's
the thing about that.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
The hidden thing.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
About all this is like, let's say the Big ten
really does get Oregon and Washington. They're going to welcome
them in at at discount prices. They're getting them at
Rutgers and Maryland prices. They're not giving them a year,
but it's still a better deal for them. Like look
at it. And this is why I don't think the
PAC twelve is going to go away, because again where
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we're not talking about that much money. Let's say the
PAC twelve loses like five or six.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Let's say they.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Lose Callen, Stanford and Oregon, Washington and Arizona and Arizona State. Well,
let's say they go go take a bunch of you know,
Mountain West teams and let's say SMU and they figure
something out out. Well, right now, Mountain West teams only
make like a lot four million dollars a year off
their media deal. So if you're offer than twelve, that
would be more. So you don't have to offer necessarily
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a full share to get some of these schools to
come across. And there is a point again where we
keep thinking that there's all this money there from the
TV networ works. But as we're seeing, if it's not sports,
especially with this strike and the actors strike and everything,
sports is pretty much the only thing left until these
places are going to have to overpay to get sports
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because that's the only sure thing programming that anybody's gonna watch.
And then money might not be there because everyone under
the age of like people who watch baseball stream for
a stream, they don't know what a TV commercial is.
They don't watch them.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
New World Order, Apple and so many streaming services. Look,
those apps are all over you know, even you know,
my my parents in their mid seventies, I've taught them
how to use apps, and we if you bought a
TV in the last ten years, it's there and just
staring in the face so that you can use it. It's
lost as you can use those depths on your big TV,
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I mean right exactly, which is what my family does.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
So yeah, the Netflix, Hulu, all that stuff. It's all
these streaming services. That's how people are. Nobody cares that
the game's on ESPN, and nobody cares where it is,
excepting to really particularly like the announcers. But if you're
into the game, you're gonna find a way to watch them.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Pete Futech, who is listening to Night Ranger on cassette.
According to his Twitter, our guest right now the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the tirec dot Com Studios. Now,
the thing is Pete Florida State wants more money, but
they wouldn't talk about leaving if they didn't have some
kind of plan. Okay, if we do leave, what's it
going to be? You can figure out the money, You're right,
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whoever the money needs to be. Florida State can figure
it out. They can go to court. They can say, well,
instead of that, how about we give you sixty million
right now? Or instead of getting tied up in all
these things, Is there any way that we are not
going to at some point have a three conference a
three super conference situation, whether it's the Big.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Ten that will become the Big twenty and the Big
twelve which will be the Big sixteen in the SEC.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Because with all this, once you see a conference that
has some kind of a vulnerable ability to it, it
doesn't it doesn't make it for the long term. This
is that's why this is such a horrible news day
for the ACC because here's one of the big, high
profile schools that wants to go and once you start
seeing that that bit of weakness, it doesn't suddenly get
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stronger and we get other schools coming they want to
come play in the ACC.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Well, but first of all, what do you think we
have now we have the Big Two. We've had the
Big Two for like thirty years. Yeah, it's it's the
Pac twelve and the Big twelve have you know, had
some nice teams and nice moments, But when it comes
to the business of college sports, the Big ten dominates
everybody and the SEC because it's the SEC and they've
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got their world of football. It is the Big two
and everyone else. And remember this is not just about
like on field performance, it's about markets. And with the
Big twelve, why they are not going to be a
part of this, you know, higher end. They're not going
to get you past the bouncer into the you know,
the swank lounge. They don't have the markets. Wh where
(25:00):
is their TV markets? It might be they have Dallas,
but they have their like second tier. When you got
TCU and Baylor compared to Texas in the Dallas Fort
Worth area, you know, they kind of have Houston now
at the University of Houston that's second tier compared to
you know, the love and affection for Texas a and.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
M and U T.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
It's in Houston. So compared to like the Big ten
who are now has you know, the LA market, They've
got whatever New York market you can claim, they got
Chicago for the most part, they've got TV markets. The
SEC doesn't really have TV markets, but they own obviously
the southeast part of the country. So again, what does
Florida State do for you business wise? Because it's not
(25:42):
going to really crank up a new market or footprint
for the SEC, which is I keep saying the SEC
should be all over Oregon, in Washington. They should look
at what the Big ten is doing. Go coast to coast.
It's his business time. You need a bigger, larger area
to go after. The Big ten is going to just
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dominate from coast to coast, and the SEC is not
going to be able to necessarily keep up business wise
the Big cost certainly, once again, this is nice that
Florida State wants more money, but who's going to necessarily
bend over backwards to get them? North Carolina that's the waal,
that's the one that everyone wants. Because remember the Big
ten likes the University of insert state name here. They
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don't go after you know, schools with the word state
in them. They go after the University of Maryland, the
University of Nebraska, you know, North Carolina. They want the
big giant schools. That is the market that expands everything
for the SEC or the Big ten, and that would
be the bidding war even more than Florida State.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, the hard part for me, Pete is going forward,
say next year the year following. None of the histories
of any of these conference play really matter anymore because
everybody's jumbled up.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Well, remember when I first started this twenty five years
this whole cefenting twenty five years ago. Oh my god,
what college football is over? There's no Southwest Conference anymore? Like,
oh the tradition, Oh dear God. And look at this,
Look at this big twelve that they're for going to form.
It's awful. It's you know, all the power teams like
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Kansas State and Colorado are up in the north and
Nebraska and the South with Texas and Oklahoma. It's just
a weakling. It's like these things change. And again, going
with the youth movement here, young people don't care. They
don't know who Tim Tebow is. You think anybody cares
about Like you know, the old school Oklahoma Nebraska rivalries
(27:40):
or Worth State in Miami. No, they just want to
know what they can go on their phone and bet.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Are you talking about the state of Iowa?
Speaker 9 (27:49):
Pete?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Is that all you're doing there?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
You get Hunter Deckers out of my mouth?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
No, I will not but repete.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Lastly, Look, but what's your takeaway of that situation? With
the look the Iowa betting sting, unearthing that Iowa States
quarterback and Iowa's kicker gambling on sports, Like I look
at this and go if this doesn't tell you how
widespread an issue this is. Because this is just Iowa
that we found out, this is going on everywhere. This
is going to be a bigger and bigger story as
time goes on.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
It is one hundred times bigger than the realignment story.
Everybody bets. Everybody has a wager on something. Either they
have a bracket during March Madness, either they're playing. And
here's the thing that no one likes to talk about.
Fantasy football is a prop bet. That's all it is.
And if you're an NFL player playing fantasy football for
(28:39):
money anyway, you are gambling on the NFL and prop
bets college kids, all of them. Everybody has it on
their phone. Everybody is betting on sports, and so either
you figure out how to harness that and work within
the system, or else you just it's going to be
hard because you're not going to be able to police it.
(29:00):
That's the biggest part. Forget nil, forget all the stuff
at Congress. That's the biggest threat to sports. In whatever
a vegue level you want to look at.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You can fall on Twitter at Pete Feutech that is
at Pete few Tech, say, I know, at Lollapalooza, or sorry.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
At the after party, you.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Know, I know, look at all the small venues around town,
and that's the best small venues.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
He will he will interrupt watching the Lumineers to give
you his take on anything college football.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
This is Peach's actual cassette.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Playing right now, letting you know, Uh, Pete is always buddy,
appreciating my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Enjoy the concert. We'll talk to you so.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
Actually will I will actually talk college football to take
a break from watching concerts anytime.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, my guy, see happy New year, buddy.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, listen, that's it's a night ranger on cassette.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
He's gonna see it on Aaron Rogers starting job or
the potential to be traded for a bounty of draft picks.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Okay, just kidding. Yeah, here's here's the thing about thrillers
on a Thursday night. First of all, Zach Wilson is
not even gonna play. Okay, First of all. No, Aaron
Rodgers knows Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I saw the game plan, Jason, he's playing.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know, just think about this for a second, right,
Zach Wilson has been all smiles. Hey, I'm learning a lot,
learning a lot. How do you think he felt after
seeing that in the last week. Oh, dude, just gave
back thirty three million dollars. He's gonna stay two or
three more years. That's the end of my contract here. Yeah,
I'm done here.
Speaker 8 (01:37):
I'm so done. I would have to go someplace else
as a backup. There's no way they're gonna keep me
after my contract is up. Yeah, all right, that that stinks.
That's that's uh. Zach Wilson the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Oh, it's gonna be brilliant though. I mean, watching him
work and try to battle day for day. I mean,
that's one of the great heartwarming stories sure to come
on Hard Knocks mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Oh and oh, by the way, my live Schreber haham.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Last year's quarterback, Zach Wilson is terrible. He will not
be playing this season. There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
I think sometimes you need that to him because he
was terrible last year.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He was. He was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Jason, I saw the script.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Did I say.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
He's not going to have an incompletion all night?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Look? How good? Look how good Zach Wilson is has he.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
He's Jimmy is incredible.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Jim Oh, it's Happy Jets Day, Happy Jets Day.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
The day is here, We're here. It's Jets Day, Jets, Jets, Jets.
Che's now while we're getting set for a game. And
believe me, a four hour, full breakdown of the Jets
and the Browns tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
No question about it.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Whether or not it's players you heard of or not,
it makes no difference. We have real live NFL football
on TV. We now know and if you didn't before today,
today made it crystal clear. Dak Prescott is the player
with the most pressure on him in all of the
National Football League and it's not even close today at
(03:14):
Cowboys camp, it's not the biggest to do. But something
happened that's just gonna illustrate my point. During a drill today,
Dak Prescott scrambled outside the pocket ran for a touchdown.
He was met in the end zone by cornerback Travon Diggs,
who had a great year last year. One of the
best defensive players on the Cowboys, and Digg said to him,
(03:37):
shut yo, blank blank up, whoa, whoa. This is what
happens when they met in the end zone. Also, Malie
Hooker had a big exchange with Dak Prescott, but it's
unclear what was said or what was at the root
of both of these interactions with Dak Prescott. But what
this should tell you is that there are no more
(03:59):
free lunch's free passes for Dak Prescott. He has embraced
being a superstar. He loves being a superstar. He is
getting paid to be a superstar. But now it is
different and Dak Prescott needs to come through this year
or there's gonna be changes in the offseason. The Cowboys
gonna look to move on. Everything changed for Dak in
(04:19):
the playoff game to the Niners. We talked about it
right after it happened. There was a big change because
you could see there's a difference in how Jerry Jones how,
some of the players, how some of the coaches talked
about Dak Prescott. We got a new oc coming in
now because of this. He was just so awful against
the forty nine Ers in a game in which they
walked away from that, going, how we just been able
(04:41):
to get a touchdown, we would have won this game, right,
just been able to well, and one more extra point
for bet mare. Have we just been able to get
a touchdown? We could have won this game. But it said,
what do we get? Dak turned the ball over twice
in the first half interceptions, couldn't move the team down
the field at all. I get that the Niners have
a great defense and they were absolutely loaded last year,
but Dak Prescott's getting paid a ton of money right
(05:02):
to outplay Brock Purty. And that was a stark reminder
that we paid Dak Prescott, who was just okay because
you had teams that were pretty equal, right, you had
teams who were pretty equally. The Cowboys defense was really good,
Niners defense was better, but Cowboys defense was pretty good.
Cowboys weapons, Cowboys weapons were pretty good. Niners weapons were
pretty good. Cowboys lost Tony Pollard at halftime of that game.
(05:25):
So this is Dak, this is your time, man. You
got to bring us down. This is why you've got
all this money.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And he didn't do it.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
And what happened? Who was the guy that led his
team down? Brock Purty, who's getting paid twenty bucks a
day plus meal expenses. He's the one that got them
into the end zone and he's the guy that's the
starting quarterback now for the San Francisco forty nine ers
as they try to get to the Super Bowl. Mister irrelevant,
outplayed your forty million dollar a year quarterback. Everything changed
for Dak Prescott then now coming into this year, it's different.
(05:55):
His teammates, as you can tell right now, they need
more from him. Right Diggs and Hook aren't going at
him like this unless he needs to be challenged and
we need more. Jerry Jones knows he needs more out
of Dak Prescott. Everybody knows. Nobody with more. There's a
lot of guys with pressure. Aaron Rodgers in New York
pressure pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, right, all kinds of Justin
Herbert New Contract pressure pressure, pressure, pressure. Joe Burrow wants
(06:18):
a pressure. Josh Allen pressure pressure everywhere. Nobody with more
pressure than Dak Prescott. Because after this season, trust me,
things will change and you could see a new quarterback
in Dallas after the season.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Callen Moore is gone.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Part of the Charger brand that our guy Justin frostbered
I'll be working through this season. He's working to find
the scripts for us as we speak. So you got
Brian Schottenheimer and Mike McCarthy calling plays. You've got a
pretty robust receiving corps, assuming you know, we come into
the season healthy. So you get a little bit excited
(06:51):
about the depth chart as it's been constructed. Brandon Cooks
now part of the fold, along with Michael Gallup who
shown in spots still coming off the injury last year.
Offensive line is pretty strong, but you got to take
care of Zach Martin, right, that's the lynch pin do
onto all of it and making sure that you've got
(07:12):
him under contract ready to go. Davis Vaughn, whoever is
running the football, Yeah, they're not Tony Pollard. I have
to imagine that eventually he shows up, because five hundred
thousand dollars a week is an awful lot of scratch
to leave around, particularly when you're coming off of a
big injury. Right, because he's different than the others, right,
Josh Jacobs was different because they didn't want his fifty
(07:34):
year option. He's a raider. All of these things. There's
a battle there. So he with the LAS Vegas is
in one bucket. You had Sakwan Barkley, who they finagled
some things which I didn't know was able you were
able to do in the contracts to the CBA, but hey,
they found it some wiggle room for some incentive stuff
(07:54):
and an upfront cash payment. It worked for Tony Pollard.
He's another one of those guys that's in the mold
of just like Austin Eckler of all right, you got
an opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Uh you know where you weren't coming in highly heralded
as a as a huge prospect behind Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But now you can be the guy.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So there's still some pieces to go through. You talk
about the animus with the defense, Yeah, they carried things
down that stretch and gave them at every opportunity to
win the game. So're gonna be a little bit there.
And obviously in camp when a lot of ink has
been slung and Jerry's talked up Dak and everybody as
(08:35):
being world beaters. When your defense can win a lot
of those head to head drills, yeah they're gonna start
to strut, but they're also gonna kind of push the offense,
and you know, kind of the rocky mister t ain't
so bad?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And that's kind of what we got here, right, a
little bit of hey, come on, let's amp it up
some and elevate play. So little bit of excitement is it?
Are they gonna be quick to pull the trigger? Nah,
Jerry's too loyal. I think Dak's got plenty of weary
miles because you could say, well, it's a new OC
and all of these things, and DAK has put up
some spectacular numbers and certainly CD Lamb being drafted as
(09:13):
though they will do it again in fantasy leagues.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I don't think the page turns quite so fast. I
think there's other teams that will launch their their quarterbacks
into the stratosphere before Dallas does.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
I think things are different after that Niners game. That
Niners game was a big change.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
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Speaker 3 (09:45):
You think Jerry remembers that, of course he does. That
was it?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
They should have won. I'm paying my quarterback forty million
dollars a year. They're paying their quarterback two hundred grand,
and we couldn't get a touchdown and win. He has
a bad year, or the Cowboys don't go far. Right,
Let's just say Dak has a very Dak type year
where he's been good, but the Cowboys don't go far,
don't They don't go far in the playoffs. The Cowboys
are gonna sit back and go, Man, we've seen the
(10:11):
best of Dak Prescott, and we can't win games that
we think we should because the Cowboys one of those
few teams in sports that still measure themselves by championships. Right,
And that's the one thing you can say about Jerry Jones,
as bad of a GM as he's been since he's
on the team, he wants to win, all right. And
I know he wants to win and he's bad at it,
but he wants to win. And so you're gonna look
(10:33):
at this team and go, we've had Dak for just
about a decade, and look where we are. The guy's
just okay, he hasn't done anything we have. We can't
advance on the playoffs. They're going to say it is
time to move on because it is still fresh in
their mind that Cooper Rush is lack of not not
as talented as he is, came in in, won games, right.
The team galvanized themselves behind Cooper Rush and they won games.
(10:54):
They're gonna get out of this next season disappointing by
Dak Prescott and say, are we really gonna win by
Dak out there? We've made all kinds of moves around
him for a long time now and it just hasn't worked.
We've had running backs, we've had wide receivers, we've had
offensive line, we've had defense, we've had everything, and Dak
hasn't won. And you're gonna see Dak Prescott trade rumors.
(11:15):
You're gonna see the tide turning against him from the
from the fans, from the team, from the media, from
inside the organization, because what are we paying this guy for?
And there will be teams that want Dak Prescott. Their
jee's going, hey, you know our quarterback stinks right now.
We'd love to get a guy like Dak Prescott. So okay, yeah,
is the money that you're paying him that crazy? No,
we can do it, and the Cowboys will start over.
(11:37):
There will be somebody who is the apple of Jerry's eye.
You will hear rumors through the season, Boy, Jerry Jones
really likes this guy. And that's or they're gonna go
after the end of the season, right, They're just not
going to go forward again saying we're gonna keep banging
our head against the wall with Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
If he had a big playoff.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Game and they lost to the to the Niners, I
get it, but I'm telling you you can tell something
is now different about Dak after that game. There is
way more pressure and a bad season isn't gonna mean
suddenly he comes back. Yes, I know he's got a
he's got a big dead cap hit at sixty two
million dollars, But look, don't ever look at that and
say that can't make a deal get done. Because Aaron
(12:13):
Rodgers got traded and he had a contract that was.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh, you can't do it. Look at the dead cat money,
he's ninety eight million dollars.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Well, not only did he get traded, he said I'll
take less money and I'll work it out. You can
always work out the money. Don't look at a dead
cap hit or some kind of contract and go this
guy is absolutely untradable in the NFL because you can
make it work. Oh, Justin Verlander's not tradable. Turns out
Justin Verlander was really really tradable. You can make the
money work. Other teams will make the money work, and
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Dallas will have a new quarterback after the season.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Remember, there's always another dope out there. If you find
that you're the one in the room, move to another
room and find the next and so that would be
what you're doing here. Welcome, Welcome to starting quarterback Land
Will Greer.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Get it on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, Hey, guess what. Look who's starting for the race
twenty twenty four. It's Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Get ready because you know that's the first place, that's
the first place they'll go.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's a very yeah. Dag attag in vegasagatag dag.
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
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down to the Jets and the team the Jets are
playing in the Hall of Fame game. Yeah, we have
had a big last couple of days in college football,
(13:51):
the end of the Pac twelve sure, now the end
of the ACC probably joining us now on the hotline
to break it all down. Nobody Better the owner, editor,
proprietor College Footballnews dot com. You can check him out.
He's got all the previews, all the info you need.
Longtime friend of the show, Pete Futech. You can follow
(14:12):
him on Twitter at Pete Futech. No better college football
insider who is really sucking it up tonight As I'm
counting down to the Jets, Pete Futech is about nine
hours away from the beginning of Lollapalooza that he is
ready to attend. Pete, thank you for stopping by. Are
you just gonna stay up all night until Lollapalooza starts
(14:33):
at ten o'clock tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (14:35):
No? See, here's my thing. I am old, So being old,
I don't I'm not going to Luda. I go to
the after shows that have like the more and stuff
so I can do. I go to the ones that
have you know, I just the band I want to see.
I'll see it like the Metro at some things like that. So,
(14:58):
but standing outside with a bunch of people, well, well,
pretty much a third of my age at this point.
There's no I'm too old for these bands that are
out right now except for Red Hot Chili Peppers is
the one band from my era. And that's about it
is this show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So you're not done, Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
You're not going to see Landa del Ray like you're
going to see like the Lumineers in a in an
intimate setting.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
Actually in the weird part. Yeah, So I just saw
it this very XMU breathy band called Men I trust.
I'm seeing Silvanetts though on Sunday night, and usually I
would go see the DJs because that's just the type
of person I am. And my daughters are seeing Mona
del Ray and Billie Eilish, those are the ones that
they're into.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yes, oh very nice.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
All right, So as you're getting ready for this, you're
getting ready for the intimate settings the craziness of college
football the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's start with the PAC twelve four.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You get to the ACC, the Big ten, says they
want to talk with Oregon, Washington, Cal Stanford, but they
want to back off.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They don't want to be seen as predatory. Yet too
late for that, Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
With this news coming off, the past twelve announced it
yesterday that they could have a streaming partner for games.
That's kind of been met with a shrug. Is there
any way the PAC twelve survives? I mean, I just
think it's a matter. It's dying right now, and I
don't know what the time of death is gonna be.
But these schools are all going to go to the
Big ten and and the PAC twelve is going to
(16:17):
be the PAC eight, the PAC six with a bunch
of also ran schools trying to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Make it up.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
Well, here's the problem. I still think that there is
going to be a PAC twelve in some form because
what's getting lost here is that there isn't exactly a
chair for everybody. So like this thought of oh, we're
gonna go to twenty teams, like the Big twelve doesn't
have the money to do this. They can top out
(16:43):
at about fourteen teams, so they can top up by
taking Arizona. And let's say they're gonna go ahead Utah
doesn't seem to be interested, so maybe Arizona State, but
they would rather not do that. They're just going to
ghost Yukon who through his whole thing, and they're saying, Oh,
we're gonna take Yukon basketball. I'm we're going to expand
our quick print. Now now they're going to go for
a couple more packed teams. But they don't. Their money
(17:06):
isn't there. And what's going to be interesting about this
whole process is will the money be there five years
from now? Because these deals are all based on traditional
network contracts. That says that one of these big major
you know networks is going to pay all this money
for these deals. But what's missing is and this is
(17:29):
where you know, I Joe gam old blah blah blah.
But where we're missing as old people is young people
don't watch TV. They stream. So the idea of like, yeah,
the of Apple being the main partner for the PAC twelve, well,
you're talking to a bunch of old college presidents and
a bunch of old athletic directors who don't get it
(17:51):
that this is actually probably the more progressively correct deal,
but it's way too hard of a sell and you're
gonna base your athletic budget and your athletic department budget
on subscription to a streaming service. But if you think
about this through, it's Apple, it could be Nike, if
Oregon's still a part of this, it's the Beats brand.
(18:13):
It's all the different marketing arms that could make this
thing really rock. But it is way too out there
for a budget athletic directors who just want to take
the money and keep things going.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yeah, and when you look at the PAC twelve, they're
run by a guy whose main endorser was was Shill,
and we see what a bangup job he's doing at Northwestern. Yeah.
But continuing along the rights passage acc deal. From everything
I've read, Pete, I kept checking the math, twenty thirty
six is what they're signed up through. So Florida State
(18:44):
has one big year, a first ten win season in
quite some time, and all of a sudden they're trying
to flex. How does that end in the ACZ.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
How quickly do they splinter off?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I don't think they do, because you're twenty thirty six.
There's a waffer. It's a create should notice off the
top of my head. But it's not just you know,
like getting a San Diego State where you say, okay,
it's a thirty four million dollar extra fee if you're
leaving the ACC. It's it's kind of like you know,
smashing your rental car you're passing, you have to pay
for like loss of use. You have to pay for
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all the money you would have made for. It's a
really really bad deal for all the ACC teams that
are in there. And but that might not be that
much if somebody really wants Florida State. As I keep saying,
we're not talking about a ton of money here, because
justin Herbert's going to make ten to twenty million dollars
more per year over the next five years, and Colorado's
(19:38):
going to make off for this big twelve deal. I mean,
it's in the sports business world. It's a lot of
money to normal people. But it's just not that much.
And the other part of this thing, too, is who
really desperately wants Florida State and why? Because if you're
the SEC, you've pretty much already dominated the Florida market.
(19:58):
Florida State doesn't exactly lifts your overall brand unless you
can say, well, they're going to be worth fifty million
dollars extra a year in TV packaging Big Ten. It
doesn't Florida State doesn't fit the Big Ten. It just
especially you know, I'm not gonna get political here, but
especially with what's happening kind of around that Stayton, that's
(20:19):
the flagship at the moment, that doesn't quite fit what
Big ten presidents are going to be into, even though
the academic side of things is all there. So I've
Florida State's certainly talking big, but they're all talking big
because they just want more money and I think they're
going to get that eventually from the ACC.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
But Pete, but here's here, let me do the flip
side of that. Now doesn't need to be the Big
Ten could be the sec right if they because you're
talking about if Florida State leaves, and it's talking about leaving.
Miami's not staying so they'll go, and Clemson's not staying
so they'll go. You're talking about them where they're going.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Who's got all this money? And that's I mean, they're
not getting a seventy million that the big And that's
the thing about that.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
The hidden thing.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
About all this is like, let's say the Big ten
really does get Oregon and Washington. They're going to welcome
them in at at discount prices. They're getting them at
Rutgers and Maryland prices. They're not giving them a year,
but it's still a better deal for them. Like look
at it. And this is why I don't think the
PAC twelve is going to go away, because again where
(21:23):
we're not talking about that much money. Let's say the
PAC twelve loses like five or six.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Let's say they.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Lose Callen, Stanford and Oregon, Washington and Arizona and Arizona State. Well,
let's say they go go take a bunch of you know,
Mountain West teams and let's say SMU and they figure
something out out. Well, right now, Mountain West teams only
make like a lot four million dollars a year off
their media deal. So if you're offer than twelve, that
would be more. So you don't have to offer necessarily
(21:50):
a full share to get some of these schools to
come across. And there is a point again where we
keep thinking that there's all this money there from the
TV networ works. But as we're seeing, if it's not sports,
especially with this strike and the actors strike and everything,
sports is pretty much the only thing left until these
places are going to have to overpay to get sports
(22:11):
because that's the only sure thing programming that anybody's gonna watch.
And then money might not be there because everyone under
the age of like people who watch baseball stream for
a stream, they don't know what a TV commercial is.
They don't watch them.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
New World Order, Apple and so many streaming services. Look,
those apps are all over you know, even you know,
my my parents in their mid seventies, I've taught them
how to use apps, and we if you bought a
TV in the last ten years, it's there and just
staring in the face so that you can use it. It's
lost as you can use those depths on your big TV,
(22:48):
I mean right exactly, which is what my family does.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
So yeah, the Netflix, Hulu, all that stuff. It's all
these streaming services. That's how people are. Nobody cares that
the game's on ESPN, and nobody cares where it is,
excepting to really particularly like the announcers. But if you're
into the game, you're gonna find a way to watch them.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Pete Futech, who is listening to Night Ranger on cassette.
According to his Twitter, our guest right now the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live the tirec dot Com Studios. Now,
the thing is Pete Florida State wants more money, but
they wouldn't talk about leaving if they didn't have some
kind of plan. Okay, if we do leave, what's it
going to be? You can figure out the money, You're right,
(23:28):
whoever the money needs to be. Florida State can figure
it out. They can go to court. They can say, well,
instead of that, how about we give you sixty million
right now? Or instead of getting tied up in all
these things, Is there any way that we are not
going to at some point have a three conference a
three super conference situation, whether it's the Big.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Ten that will become the Big twenty and the Big
twelve which will be the Big sixteen in the SEC.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Because with all this, once you see a conference that
has some kind of a vulnerable ability to it, it
doesn't it doesn't make it for the long term. This
is that's why this is such a horrible news day
for the ACC because here's one of the big, high
profile schools that wants to go and once you start
seeing that that bit of weakness, it doesn't suddenly get
(24:14):
stronger and we get other schools coming they want to
come play in the ACC.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Well, but first of all, what do you think we
have now we have the Big Two. We've had the
Big Two for like thirty years. Yeah, it's it's the
Pac twelve and the Big twelve have you know, had
some nice teams and nice moments, But when it comes
to the business of college sports, the Big ten dominates
everybody and the SEC because it's the SEC and they've
(24:39):
got their world of football. It is the Big two
and everyone else. And remember this is not just about
like on field performance, it's about markets. And with the
Big twelve, why they are not going to be a
part of this, you know, higher end. They're not going
to get you past the bouncer into the you know,
the swank lounge. They don't have the markets. Wh where
(25:00):
is their TV markets? It might be they have Dallas,
but they have their like second tier. When you got
TCU and Baylor compared to Texas in the Dallas Fort
Worth area, you know, they kind of have Houston now
at the University of Houston that's second tier compared to
you know, the love and affection for Texas a and.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
M and U T.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
It's in Houston. So compared to like the Big ten
who are now has you know, the LA market, They've
got whatever New York market you can claim, they got
Chicago for the most part, they've got TV markets. The
SEC doesn't really have TV markets, but they own obviously
the southeast part of the country. So again, what does
Florida State do for you business wise? Because it's not
(25:42):
going to really crank up a new market or footprint
for the SEC, which is I keep saying the SEC
should be all over Oregon, in Washington. They should look
at what the Big ten is doing. Go coast to coast.
It's his business time. You need a bigger, larger area
to go after. The Big ten is going to just
(26:02):
dominate from coast to coast, and the SEC is not
going to be able to necessarily keep up business wise
the Big cost certainly, once again, this is nice that
Florida State wants more money, but who's going to necessarily
bend over backwards to get them? North Carolina that's the waal,
that's the one that everyone wants. Because remember the Big
ten likes the University of insert state name here. They
(26:26):
don't go after you know, schools with the word state
in them. They go after the University of Maryland, the
University of Nebraska, you know, North Carolina. They want the
big giant schools. That is the market that expands everything
for the SEC or the Big ten, and that would
be the bidding war even more than Florida State.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, the hard part for me, Pete is going forward,
say next year the year following. None of the histories
of any of these conference play really matter anymore because
everybody's jumbled up.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Well, remember when I first started this twenty five years
this whole cefenting twenty five years ago. Oh my god,
what college football is over? There's no Southwest Conference anymore? Like,
oh the tradition, Oh dear God. And look at this,
Look at this big twelve that they're for going to form.
It's awful. It's you know, all the power teams like
(27:19):
Kansas State and Colorado are up in the north and
Nebraska and the South with Texas and Oklahoma. It's just
a weakling. It's like these things change. And again, going
with the youth movement here, young people don't care. They
don't know who Tim Tebow is. You think anybody cares
about Like you know, the old school Oklahoma Nebraska rivalries
(27:40):
or Worth State in Miami. No, they just want to
know what they can go on their phone and bet.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Are you talking about the state of Iowa?
Speaker 9 (27:49):
Pete?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Is that all you're doing there?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
You get Hunter Deckers out of my mouth?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
No, I will not but repete.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Lastly, Look, but what's your takeaway of that situation? With
the look the Iowa betting sting, unearthing that Iowa States
quarterback and Iowa's kicker gambling on sports, Like I look
at this and go if this doesn't tell you how
widespread an issue this is. Because this is just Iowa
that we found out, this is going on everywhere. This
is going to be a bigger and bigger story as
time goes on.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
It is one hundred times bigger than the realignment story.
Everybody bets. Everybody has a wager on something. Either they
have a bracket during March Madness, either they're playing. And
here's the thing that no one likes to talk about.
Fantasy football is a prop bet. That's all it is.
And if you're an NFL player playing fantasy football for
(28:39):
money anyway, you are gambling on the NFL and prop
bets college kids, all of them. Everybody has it on
their phone. Everybody is betting on sports, and so either
you figure out how to harness that and work within
the system, or else you just it's going to be
hard because you're not going to be able to police it.
(29:00):
That's the biggest part. Forget nil, forget all the stuff
at Congress. That's the biggest threat to sports. In whatever
a vegue level you want to look at.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
You can fall on Twitter at Pete Feutech that is
at Pete few Tech, say, I know, at Lollapalooza, or sorry.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
At the after party, you.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Know, I know, look at all the small venues around town,
and that's the best small venues.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
He will he will interrupt watching the Lumineers to give
you his take on anything college football.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
This is Peach's actual cassette.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Playing right now, letting you know, Uh, Pete is always buddy,
appreciating my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Enjoy the concert. We'll talk to you so.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
Actually will I will actually talk college football to take
a break from watching concerts anytime.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, my guy, see happy New year, buddy.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, listen, that's it's a night ranger on cassette.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I found it
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