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September 5, 2023 • 53 mins

Jason Smith and Steve DeSaegher give some predictions on who will be playing for the National Championship this year. Plus, Jason and Steve claim that Deion Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes are now must see TV.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:49):
how was your Labor day? Skip? Skip? Oh sorry did
I say some? Didn't mean I meant to say, I'm
am Sorry. I meant to say, Steve, I should have said.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Got something else on the brain?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
There, No, no, no, I meant not. I just know it's
just a thing you know, I don't know what it is,
but just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Are you one of the rotating hosts with skip? Is
that what's going on back in your mind? There are
none of them.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
No, it was just one of those things, just just
a force of happening.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
In case one of those things Gilgan's Islands, slipp of
the tongue. Yeah, I'm doing it, Okay. It was just
a normal, normal day. Couldn't wait till tonight. But I
must say football this weekend, it was just so great
having it. There were enough games that there were enough
good total games. Imagine how we will feel one week
from tonight when we have NFL football starting.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And I want to say this, I'm very sorry because
I you know, watching Michigan play yesterday, you didn't get
to coach the overtime potentially that they would have played
a day ago. So I know that was something you
really you know, you were excited. Only twenty of us
are getting to coach Michigan while Harball is out these
three games.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, they're kind of rotating.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Is it the next game where they have two guys coaching,
one on the first half, one in the second.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
There's somebody coaches every quarter, and that's what it is.
And then somebody gets to actually coach halftime. It's a
completely different guy that comes in and coaches the halftime adjustments.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know, maybe Blake Korum can just coach. Maybe that's
some sort of nil thing they can slip in there,
because he's only really needed to play the first half
this past week in the opener, he would have been
free for the second. Did you notice, by the way
Michigan won its opener against East Carolina thirty to three.
East Carolina kicked a thirty three yard field goal on
the final plumb final plan to avoid a shutout here

(02:30):
all day the team up until the last drive. They
got eight drives, eight first downs, ten penalties, but we
didn't get shut out. We went to the big house.
We scored on those guys. That's what they could walk home.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
We made that last play of the game count, and
I'll tell you that that's you know, I understand that
they actually went for it earlier on fourth down in
the fourth quarter when they could have kicked the field
goal down thirty nothing and they didn't get it. So
I think they're like, Okay, well, this second time, we
got to make sure this happens now.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yesterday it happened yesterday as Northwestern. Mike Carmon is not here.
Northwest was it Rutgers and getting shut out twenty four
to nothing and scored a touchdown in the final seconds
after using all three timeouts late in the final minute
or so to make sure we got a shutout. Gotta
make sure just so they can say we're back. Of course,
we're back. Did you see us? We just scored?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Now, speaking of college football, and speaking of did you
see us? We just scored? Clemson and Duke, the ninth
rank Tigers have not had a good first half offensively,
and now they find themselves trailing Duke thirteen to seven
early in the third quarter. I mean, this is this
would be something where suddenly, you know, Duke goes, wow,

(03:40):
this is I'd be usually we get this in basketball,
So in football this would just be.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Used to always be Clemson in basketball. Remember that was
like notre name against Navy and.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Football, that's all I always used to it. Now here
they are Clemson struggling against Duke, and Kate Klebnick, who
is supposed to be the next great quarterback, is throwing
for eighty five five yards and a touchdown Will Shipley,
who has had big games sixty five yards. I know
what's a new offense they're trying to put in put together.
But so far, all the big teams that we've seen
from a year ago that were most of them anyway

(04:12):
that we see them, Hey, how are they gonna adjust
with new players? It's a little bit, it's a little
bit of please sure, Okay, they looked okay to a point.
Now they looked okay to a part. But like, we
still have the same questions, right, Like Clemson's offense. How's
that we were talking about USC's defense. Well, they're still
allowing twenty eight points a game to teams that are
not Power five you know how?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Hey, only two touchdowns by Nevada.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Come on now, all right, sorry sorry, only two all right?
Two touchdowns by Nevada. Okay, okay, so they're averaging twenty
one points to not well.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Penn State got a really slow start Saturday night and
eventually put away West Virginia. I will say impressive for
a sport that doesn't have a preseason. Penn State only
had one penalty in that game. And by the way,
I need to update a reference that I had a
minute ago. It's not like, you know, Duke basketball used
to always be Clemson. The updated reference is the way
Ohio State football beats Indiana, because I think that's up

(05:00):
to about twenty eight straight times, which would be the
longest active streak in any FBS series.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Last week a little bit more of a struggle for
Ohio State, little it was it was for then you
trought against Indiana.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Thirteen to three late in the third and Indiana was
doing nothing on offense and it was still a game.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You know, it is a perfect conference of circumstance and
the biggest thing, the best thing to start with tonight. Look, obviously,
yes college football and seeing a lot of the teams
we expected to be great struggle a little bit, not
wins or losses, but just boy, I expect this to
be sixty to nothing. I expect this to be like
Syracuse and Colgate, you know, sixty five nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I we did Washington. Washington took a little bit until
in the second quarter Pennix throws four touchdown passes and
they start to blow out Boise.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
If you're judging by social media, I think you officially
have to say Heisman Trophy candidate. Yeah, Michael Penick. I
think they're trying to make that happen. So but let's
we got to make this happen for Michael Pennick.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, the amount of people that had five touchdowns in
a game this weekend, the sc quarterback, Washington quarterback, the
new Alabama quarterback, it seemed like a long lit Well,
I mean, the Kansas State quarterback. It was four touchdowns
in the first half. He had two passing, one rushing,
and one receiving.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, I mean, and look, and when you talk about
big games, listen, there's a perfect confluence of circumstances to
get to what we're gonna start. Start with Toddy because
with all these teams struggling, and with all the attention
on Colorado after beating TCU in an incredible game on
Saturday forty five, forty two, you saw stuff that just

(06:34):
made your jaw drop. Right, Shaduora Sanders throwing for four
touchdowns and five hundred yards against the last year's national finalists. Right.
You watched Travis Hunter play one hundred and ten snaps,
catch eleven passes for one hundred and twenty yards, and
pulled out a great interception on the goal line. You
saw Colorado has some dudes, and with the attention coming

(06:54):
in with Deon Sanders and what's gone on since in
the last twenty four hours, everybody's trying to make but
he's trying to make sense of, Okay, what is it
with college? What are the things? What do I need
to know? What's going on? What have they done? What
they've done? Number one is this, They have become college football.
They are the national story. Everything else is page two.

(07:15):
We didn't even we didn't even talk about We didn't
even get to talk about Alabama on the show tonight.
We're gonna get to talk about Georgia.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Actually show tonight. All the other top ten teams, even
ones that we just mentioned, you're right, are a secondary
story right now to Colorado.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Everything is Deon Sanders and Colorado has become a traveling
road show and we can't get enough of it. It's
it's a perfect confluence of circumstances. Where are there is
there any real excitement coming into this season from a
lot of teams? No, a lot of teams are starting over,
so okay, so there's a bit of an emptiness there.
Oh yes, Caleb Williams and USC they get a lot

(07:49):
of attention coming off the bat because he's gonna be
the number one pick in the draft and USC or
rock Stars. I get it. There's attention for Jim Harbaugh
because he always has attention around him, things going on
at Michigan, his suspension and not he's got his best
team at Michigan since he's been there. But by and large,
in college football, there is a wide guff for a
team to grab our attention nationally, where people in New

(08:12):
York and Florida and Kansas and Missouri and California and
Washington all want to see what's going on? Right? Did
we do we have that? Do we have that? Everybody
really care what Georgia does ever across the country? Or
do you care about your team?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
You care about your team? That's college?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Can I can I interject maybe when somebody from Georgia
is driving, we care because.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Really, come on, seriously. We'll get to that. We'll get
to that. But the whole thing with Colorado is they
have now filled this void, and Deon Sanders has filled
this void to become the conversation. We're going to talk
about Colorado football all week. Every week, We're going to
talk about it leading up to games. We're going to
talk about it coming off of games. He's going to
stay in the public mindset because Deon Sanders. One thing,

(08:54):
what does he love? He loves Deon Sanders, right He
Deon Sanders loves himself from Deon Sanders. He loves the tension.
He loves bringing it to his team. He doesn't mind
putting them on the spot and himself on the spot.
And it's a story that cuts through every week. Is
going to be my team Colorado. I gotta see Colorado,
not just because they're winning, but because of how they're winning,

(09:15):
because of how fun they are and the flash fast
offense that has come together really really quickly. And Dion's
standing up there and he's admonishing reporters after the game.
You didn't believe, You didn't believe. He's turned this into
a big time traveling show. And people are gonna love
Deon Sanders and people are gonna hate Deonson. They're gonna
want to see him win, they're gonna want to see

(09:35):
him lose. There's gonna be no down the middle on Dion.
But he has become the conversation in one game. With
one game, he has taken the entirety of college football
and said, we are what matters. I'm what matters my team,
or what matters where we are on national television on Saturday.
We're what matters where we go, what we do. And
he is not gonna give that up because the one

(09:56):
thing Dianda, he knows how to keep attention going. He
knows how to keep an eye himself, he knows how
to keep it on the team. He knows how to
stay in the limelight. And they are going to be
the show in college football all season long. And there's
gonna be weeks when they lose. When they lose, guess
what he's gonna be even in the news even more
when that happens. He has found a way to tend
college football. Needed this because we've had enough of Alabama. Right.

(10:17):
Alabama was great for a while and they carried the
torch for college football. Look at this dynasty they have
in Nick Saban. But then slowly Nick Saban turned into
somebody who was He's just kind of a curmudgeon, all right,
He's just upset about everything, all right in Alabama. Yes,
they keep winning, We're onto something else. Now we have
a team whose coach is not afraid of the microphone,
we'll say whatever the hell he wants to. He's got
superstars on his team, he's got next level guys. He's

(10:40):
turned this team around in an instant, and now there's
not going to You could people buying Colorad a buffalo
merchandise flying off the shelves and have nothing to do
with Colorado. I'm gonna do it. He has become the
story in college football from day one. And congratulations. Anybody
who used that today when I tweeted it out, talked
about it a lot on Saturday right after the game. Congratulations,
and he shows that that may have used that skip

(11:02):
and be able to try to figure it out. Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
And one thing that you mentioned just there reminds me
of the quote from one of the old old sports
writers from almost one hundred years ago. The two biggest
stories in sports are big Man wins or big Man loses,
and Deon Sanders is big man on campus. Right now,
they are the story, and you're right, it's going to
be win or lose huge story, and people are going

(11:26):
to be not only Fox wisely putting them on their
big noon kickoff the first two weeks of the season,
some first.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Ten weeks now it's going to be first ten weeks
of the season.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Some people are not aware that that is the first
of the four games on Fox TV this Saturday. It's
Colorado hosting Nebraska. But you talk about the attention nationally,
and this is one thing that has been talked about
of college football that it gets to be a regional sport.
Understandably so the way it's not really adjudicated from a
top like the pro sports. Let's put it that way.

(11:57):
It's conference by conference and that means region by read.
But I can think of offhand three big national stories that
everyone wanted to have their eyeballs on over the past
twenty years in college football. One was Johnny Manziel about
a decade ago, the game against Alabama early really got
it started and eventually a Heisman Trophy win. About fifteen

(12:17):
years ago it was Tim Tebow, and about twenty years
ago it was USC which won over thirty games in
a row. I'm sure there are others, but it's few
and far between. That's a twenty year span we're talking about.
Add Colorado to the list right now.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's every five years it's the USC dynasty. Then Tim
Tebow having the best maybe three year run of anybody
in the history of college football national champion, two national
titles in a Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I mean, up there with Tommy Fraser, Matt Lioner. It's
a short list.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
And then it was Manzel and now it's this and oh,
by the way, my whole skip line there was not
for skip was because that's what I'm saying, who's to
be the first person to take that? And it was
Shannon so olways one, congratulations, Yeah it was Shannon. Yeah, yeah,
But I.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Don't watch it anymore. I have no idea what you
were talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I mean, it's it's he and and the thing is
and this is the most shocking parts even this is
the part that I love about this is that you know,
Dion's out, and we'll get into the Dion you know
why he's so you know, affronted with people who didn't
believe in him. But the most amazing part of this
is that this is, you know, college football is not
an add water and stir type situation. Right. This is

(13:20):
not oh hey, I'm here and I'm showing up and
I'm bringing in eighty seven new guys, add water stir.
Look at this, right, It's not. It's not like making
a nice, easy couple of Ramen noodles when I just
put water in, you know, put the the top over
for two and a half minutes, open up and I'm
eating This might be you need to do that.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Rick new Gaso on the air, Jason Saturday said, I
cannot come up with an example to compare to what
I saw today. And this guy's been including at Colorado
in college football for a long time. It's darn near
unprecedented here with the amount of transfers you can have
immediately and easily.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I mean, it's it. Really it shocks me just how now.
And the big thing, the second big thing to get to,
but owning college football is that what. I don't think
anybody doubted that Dion was going to win. I don't
think anybody doubted that. And d unplays up the hate
because it's good for him. It's good, you know, it's
against the world mentality, so he plays up the hate.
I don't think anybody ever doubted he was going to win.

(14:17):
But the speed with which Colorado was going to a
rot and I admit, look, they arrived a lot quicker
than I thought. I thought this is gonna be a
team that arrives in the middle of the season and
they're gonna take their lumps a little bit early because
you're putting in a new offense, a new defense with
eighty seven guys, and how are you gonna do it right?
And you had a tough schedule coming up. This is
gonna be a team that you're gonna see that big change.

(14:39):
It'll happen fast because he did it fast at Jackson State, right,
it was fast there, it'll have but middle of Sedon.
But now he's just accelerated that timeline too. It's happening
now because is TCU great? I mean, look, it's week
one of college football. We always say tap the breaks,
Tap the breaks. Yeah, TCU may be a great teams
could be their only loss this year. TCU may struggle
all year. They may be a five hundred team. But

(15:00):
there's no doubt that Colorado has dudes, and they've arrived
faster than anybody expected. And that that's the real takeaway
from Colorado and just that it's happened this fast, and
I mean I mean it. I don't know how he
does it. I mean you watch him just zip around
the practice fielding the golf cart, and you're like, what's
he doing in meetings? Is he? What's going on? How

(15:20):
do they get on the same page? How does all
of this happen so fast? How does this come together
so fast? And their offense is so good so early?
It really is. It's baffling. And I'll tell you it's
gonna be fun because nobody has needed a major injection
of a talent more than college football. Shoheo Tani showed
up and that gave the big injection major League baseball needed. Hey,

(15:41):
we need this. We need somebody that's gonna be a
guy who cuts through that whenever he does something, we
pay attention. College football needed the same thing because really
it's about USC until they lose, and but nationally it's
not that great. Michigan's a big story because of Harba,
because Harbaugh's also a look at me head coach, but
nothing on the level of Dion Standers in Colorado. Everywhere

(16:03):
you look tomorrow, that's where the conversations are going to
be on TV, on radio. What are we looking ahead?
And boy, you feel bad for Nebraska. It's like, man,
we just well, things just got worse for us coming
off this game. We just lost on National TV. Now
we gotta go and play Colorado on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Maybe they won't be close enough to blow it in
the end on Saturday. By the way, I we'll talk
about Colorado later, but we need to emphasize how low
the bar was set, how truly horrible the team was
that he took over at Colorado. And as far as
TCU maybe not being the I wouldn't even use the
word maybe. Not the same team as last year when
they made their run. I believe I saw five TCU

(16:41):
stars from last year's team in one NFL preseason game,
So yeah, they don't have the same talent as last year.
Update on what's going on. Duke still leading number nine
Clemson mid third quarter, thirteen to seven because Duke got
that touchdown on their first drive. Clemson had a short
field goal blocked on their first drive, and in fact,
that's the second one blocks from the new kicker and

(17:03):
that special teams unit of Clemsons.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Tonight Clemson loses this kame, they'll kick them out of
the ACC. We'll get another new team in there. We'll
kick Clemson. Alrighty SMU, who do you like? Why do
you feel like they wanted cow? They didn't really want cow.
They just need bodies just in case. FSU and Clemson
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(17:48):
the National Championship prediction. After what I saw this weekend,
Ready to go. I feel even better about it when
I made it last week. What is it? It's coming
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(18:33):
A shocker in college football right now, Clemson falling to
Duke twenty one to seven. Duke has the football eight
minutes to go in this game. You heard Steve sayt
in his update a moment ago. Three trips into the
red zone, into the known, three trips into the red

(18:53):
zone four Clemson this half. They have a grand total
of zero points.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
You just love that movie. You quote it all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Into the no The most egregious mistake coming when it
looked like Clemson was going to take the lead. They
were on the doorstep and a fumble on the two
was run back seventy yards by Duke, who then punched
it into the end zone two point conversion to give
him a twenty one to seven lead over Clemson. Kate Klubnick,

(19:20):
who is supposed to be the next great quarterback for Clemson,
one hundred and sixty five yards passing and a touchdown.
Not nearly the dynamic offense they expected. They have run
for two hundred yards. Will Shipley's got a buck fourteen
on the ground, but Clemson just seven points and gaining
a lot of attention on social media. Is a screen
grab from earlier in the game where Klubnick's coming off

(19:43):
the field and Dabo Sweeney's there with his handout for
a high five, and Klubnick just goes right by it,
just like does a drive by, and Dabbo kind of
turns and stares at him and looks at him going
by the field, like, did you just walk by me?
Not high five me? Did you really just walk by?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
How much money I make? Do you not know that
I own this town?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Do you know how many players I've put in the
National Football League? Do you know that I had Trevor
Lawrence play in your position when you were in diapers?
Come on, man, you give me a high five?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Do you know I was one of the coaches that
hated players getting at il a By the way, that
turnover you mentioned it was first and goal at the
Duke one early fourth quarter where the ball was popped
out and run back the other way by Duke that
set up their last touchdown. And here on Clemson's last drive,
they went forward on a fourth and seven from midfield

(20:32):
and club Nick the quarterback ran for it seemed like
he got the first down, but he fell short because
when you slide feet first, it's where you give yourself up,
and he was at least a yard and a half
short of the first down. Turnover on downs. They've also
had a couple of field goals block Clemson.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
But I ended here, Yeah, but you started here? No,
but I ended here. Yeah, no, I know that, but
started here, but I ended here. I really okay, I
don't get it. Yeah, this is not this is not
at all what anybody expected. This is why. Look when
I picked Michigan Notre Dame to be my national championship game,
I am most confident in these teams loaded up coming in.

(21:11):
They don't have questions to be answered. Right, Michigan had
no questions. It was Harbaugh's best team, and we saw
that even when he's not coaching, they still win games
pretty easy. Notre Dame was only missing a quarterback. Right.
They had a little bit of a rough start last year,
but then they picked it up. Freeman has really got
things going well there. Hartman is all they need. I
have no doubts for these teams, but all these other
teams in the top five, top seven that were used

(21:33):
to them going to the playoff every year, because you
see the stat every year, oh eighty five percent of
the playoff births have all gone to these five teams.
But Clemson's got questions, LSU's got question We saw Let's
U's got tons of questions. Alabama okay, kind of a
mixed bag for them. Ohio State they look like they
have questions. All these teams questions, question questions all the

(21:55):
way through. Now most of them were able to get
away with a win. It doesn't look like it's gonna
happen for clem tonight. So they're gonna be the big
victims of this week and them in LSU. So I
feel great about my pick. All these other teams. Ah,
new quarterback is coming in. How are we gonna be
We don't know if this guy is any good. It's
one thing to have a guy like Sam Hartman coming
in and say, well, the guy's coming in from wake

(22:15):
foresty through seventy seven touchdowns the last two years. I'm
pretty sure he's gonna be fine with a great team
around him, and sure enough he is. But it's another
thing what it's well we have these guys battling it out.
We expect this guy to be great. We expect him
to be good, and when that guy is not, suddenly
things are much more dire, much more quicker than they
expected to be.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
And you mentioned LSU that played in Orlando last night.
They lost to Florida State. LSU was preseason number five.
The quarterback was good, but the LSU Tigers got completely
dominated in that second half and loss. And keep in
mind for the Clemson schedule, Notre Dame plays ACC teams
on their schedule. The Notre Dame Fighting Irish will be
playing at Clemson in November, and of course, being in

(23:00):
the ACC that day.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
For sure they'll play Stanford.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah. I mean that this Clemson team this month is
gonna have to play the Florida State team that we
saw win last night. So if Clemson starts ZHO to
one and they can't get past Florida State this month,
they may be starting two and two on the season
before they ever go to Syracuse in that tough battle
there to open.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Hey, hey, we always give clems in a tough time.
We always give Clemson a tough time. We should have
beat him last year.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Is that another category. Last year wins losses a tough time.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
No, well, no, we have always given them a tough time.
We've upset them. We had the big upset against them.
We should have beat him last year. There's no We
were winning by ten points in the fourth quarter and
we late hit Klubnik when he comes in the game
for the first time, and instead of getting the ball back,
we extend their drive. They want, you know, I can't
talk about that game. I still sorry. And Pino Bapers
doesn't call time out and watch his time tick off
the clock because I don't know why, because he gets

(23:54):
lost sometimes. I don't want, you know, I don't want
to talk about that, Steves.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't update from the Clemson game tonight. They're down
two touchdowns. They're taking over after a punt and a
touchback with under six minutes to go. Obvious question, lay
it on the line. Do these Clemson Tigers have what's
in front of them an eighty yard touchdown drive and
then maybe a second eighty yard touchdown drive in the
last five and a half minutes or so? Just too tie, Duke.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
No, are you kidding? This is where coach k has
his team prepared for moments like.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
This and he gets all the calls.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
They Yeah, if you think he's not gonna get that
call at the end, you watch them run on the
field at the end of You know, maybe it.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Was North Carolina basketball that beat Clemson every year. Maybe
it was coach k and dude, maybe there's still some
hope here.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Uh So, we'll have more college football come. We got
Pete Futech on the way in a few minutes. We
talk maybe talking about a big upset as well as
Colorado now owning the new cycle in college football. But
we talked about this, this breaking O Toaddi story a
few minutes ago and which his agent spoke before the
Angels game tonight, saying that when O Toaddi comes back,
absolutely it's gonna be a two way player. Is he
going to pitch next year, that's up in the air.

(25:00):
He said that he's going to be hitting for somebody
next year, and pitching is going to be a procedure
he's going to have done on his UCL at some
point inevitable. Inevitable. So this tells me, now, now I'm
gonna be conservative with everything with O TODDI telling you
how you can say this, but his time is getting
paid as a picture is over. Nobody the teams will

(25:21):
pay him to be a hitter. They're not gonna pay.
He'll get a lot of money, but he's not going
to get this unbelievable record setting seven hundred and fifty
million dollar deal we've been talking about for the last year.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Which is too bold because his last three years of
pitching had been phenomenal coming off the Tommy John surgery.
Remember I missed twenty nineteen, essentially missed all of twenty twenty.
Right after that update, Clemson just through an interception. Holy cow,
this is over.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh but yeah, Dobo's definitely not gonna high five club
to coming off the field after that.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, he may contact him, but it won't. It won't
be a high five. But the fact that even.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Otanille on all light back Moregon State, he threw five
touchdowns exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yet another one that's the one I missed is Hooeyunglola
had his own five tds for Oregon State, a top
twenty team, and it might be higher rank than Clemson
by the time the month finishes.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oregon State next year overwhelming favorite to win the Mountain West,
overwhelming favorite.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Now that is a prediction that really hasn't happened yet.
The note on the Otani that you started on, can
I say it's just notable that his agent even spoke
before the game in Anaheim tonight, because Otani himself has
not spoken to the media since the injury, even though
we know he's not pitching again this season at minimum,

(26:39):
we know it's a torn ucl ligament, and we know
his contract is up after this year, so formally after
the World Series this year, he becomes a free agent.
As the media put it, well, he is, as you know,
very particular about things, and he's just going to continue
to play things out as long as we possibly can.
So there was really quote no need for him to

(27:00):
address the media, but I'm doing this for him. Yeah, okay,
thanks for us with your presence.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's a huge one because we learn a lot of things.
We learn about the inevitable procedure he's going to have
to have on his arm, and that he still plans
to be a two way player. But he's gonna be
hitting for somebody next year, right, that's the thing now,
just to play this out how he can still try
to come back and be a pitcher, hopefully he does,
and maybe he comes back he can close. That'd be awesome,
but no one's gonna pay him because of the wear

(27:28):
and tear on his arm. They're not You just watch
what the Rangers did with with Jacob de Gram. He's
he's missing all of this year and next year. Right now,
I don't know who's gonna pitch first, de Gram, Rotani.
The fact that he says he's going to have something.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Tony Gonsolin for the Dodgers. Also, Gonsolin's out the rest
of this year and all of next.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Year, So teams already are wary of starting pitching and
signing them long term. Now you throw in a huge
injury issue, it's not gonna happen. Otani. If he's gonna
get paid as a pitcher, if he really wants that
seven hundred fifty million dollar deal, he's got to prove
he can pitch. How does he do it? He's probably
not gonna pitch next year after hearing this news. Now

(28:06):
that you're pretty sure, okay, procedure, this UCL torn UCL procedure,
he's probably gonna be out all of twenty twenty four, Okay,
So then what does he got to do. He's got
to prove that he can make it through a whole
year as a starting pitcher, right, So then he comes
back in twenty twenty five to pitch, and if he
makes it through the whole year healthy, then Okay, now
I'm getting into the off season and I can maybe

(28:27):
sign that contract. But you're also not talking about Otani
being thirty two years old and still teams are going, yeah,
you made it through one season, but what happens if
you get hurt again? And what's Otani gonna do in
the meantime? Sign next year for one year and then
sign someplace else for one year, or sign someplace for
two years and eighty million and then waiting. If he

(28:48):
wants to get paid, he's got to take the money
when it's here, and it's here now for him as
a hitter, he'll get more money than Bryce Harper. He'll
get more money than Aaron Judge because he's a drawing card.
He's a much bigger star. More for sure. Yeah, he'll
get no. I mean, if he says, hey, listen, as
a hitter, Hey, I want to sign up a big
deal for you know, eight nine years. Okay, yeah, four

(29:09):
hundred million dollars. That'll be there for him, because that's
kind of what the going rate would be for Otani.
But to say, okay, here's here's another three hundred and
fifty million dollars on top of it, it's not gonna happen. Team.
The only way he does it is if he waits
and goes two more years and then hopes that after
twenty twenty five teams say hey, at thirty two, we're
in on you for the next five or seven year

(29:31):
That No, there's there's no end game where that ends
with that. So unless he wants to do it, and look,
it's up to him obviously to do that. But to
get to that point, do you think I'm really gonna
get that big contract while you're talking about two years
from now. Maybe if you can come back and if
you can prove you can still pitch at that level
and you can stay healthy all season long and pitch

(29:52):
one hundred and fifty five innings, not even not one
hundred and seventy five, one hundred and fifty, one hundred
and fifty innings, Can you get there? Can you get there?
Can you do that? Can you do that? Be a
top one or two starter on the team. If you
can do that. Yeah, then maybe, but you're also talking
about a guy who's gonna be thirty two at that
point and not twenty nine. So are you gonna sign
him for eight years? I don't see how that's gonna happen.
He's gonna have to play as a slugger, and if

(30:15):
he really wants to do it, I'm gonna bet on
myself I'm gonna sign for a ton of money the
next two years. Maybe someone gives him two years and
one hundred million to come and hit, you know, Steve Cohen,
maybe something, come two years and one hundred million, because
we can get out of Otani after a second year. Uh,
and then I can then I can sign long term
after that. But no one's gonna pay him that big, long,

(30:35):
eye popping contract. That's gonna just stop the world of sports.
Here's a three quarters of a billion dollars for a
guy doing something we've never seen done in Major League baseball.
I just I don't see how that happens. And Otani's
gotta go forward as if pitching something that if I
can prove it later in my career, maybe I'll get
paid for it. But right now, it's about hitting and

(30:57):
what I can do, and what I can do slugging
and hitting forty five or fifth the home runs and
being healthy all year long. That's what the guy's got
to focus on, and that's hopefully what he's focusing on.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
So obviously, if there is an eleven or twelve year
contract out there, in other words, somebody signing him to
the age of forty, it would be the Angels that
do that, because that's what that's what they do. Reference
the Alert Pooholes contract and.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
That way that Otani's contract and Anthony Rendoudt's contract would
end at the same time.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
And Benias yes, yeah, let's confirm though, what we're talking
about with this ligament injury, as great as modern medicine
in is, this is very serious.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Even though we've had guys have two Tommy John surgeries
and still come back and pitch. It was five years
ago that O'tani had the UCL reconstruction. The original surgery
was on the Dodger pitcher Tommy John about fifty years ago,
doctor Frank Job doing it. That's why the surgery is
named after him, the lefty pitcher who pitched many years

(31:55):
in the major leagues after that wound up pitching the
next decade against the Dodgers in the World Series. In fact,
they take a ligament from elsewhere in your body and
make it the new ligament in your arm, and you
try and pitch with that. Walker Buehler of the Dodgers
had this surgery a year ago, and he, after fifteen months,
had his first outing after the Tommy John surgery, his

(32:17):
second of his career yesterday. Bueller at Triple A pitch
two scoreless innings yesterday. His goal this whole time has
been to have the surgery last summer and try and
be back before the end of this regular season in
twenty twenty three. It is possible to come back and
pitch from a second UCL construction. It's just not the
cure all and it is serious.

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Speaker 3 (32:55):
Touchdown Duke Blue Devils.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh boy, Yep, We're gonna have a big ups set
in college football right now dupe now with a twenty
eight to seven lead over Clemson with three minutes to
go in the fourth quarter. All right, yes or no?
Does Dabosweeney actually cry during the postgame press conference?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Actually cry?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You mean I heard the stories about Butch Jones, But no.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Does he actually cry?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
He does? He actually cry? Okay, so yeah, look, hey,
big going on?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
There is Dick for Meal coaching tonight?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Is that going?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I think Dick for Meal. But when he lost, it
was okay, when he won, he would he would get
a little okay what happens that? But no, but listen,
the whole little tunny thing is that I you know,
he's he's an unknown because he kind of plays everything
close to the vest. So you don't know what his
real motivation is going to be. But if his if
his representation, he thinks I'm gonna get paid as a picture,

(33:47):
it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, and close to the vest is why the Angels.
A week or two ago, the GM said, you know,
when he had that finger crap, we offered to have
an MRI and he declined it. But we're being proactive.
We're doing our due diligence because the guy doesn't talk,
and so the angels, to avoid being painted in a
certain way true statement or not really had to get

(34:09):
out ahead of the story in their way.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
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but coming up next, we're breaking down the biggest upset
of the week in college football bar none end. How
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(35:46):
here we are Steve O Damosweetey. Clemson fall to Duke
twenty eight to seven.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And he said, in all my years of football, this
is the most disappointing. Never seen something like this tonight.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
And I really don't like Nil. Can I talk about
that for a second. See, this is why Duke got
all their players because of Nil. And this is what's
shocking abouts. No.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Look, by the way, anybody that Duke gets as a
transfer in still has to qualify academically to go to Duke.
Can we mention that out loud?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, you can't just walk right and I'm ready. No, no, no,
not that point yet. Oh okay, Now, this is just
one game for Dabo Sweeney. But just to think about
this for a second, Sweeney, the last couple of years,
maybe he knows I don't quite have the teams that
I had. I don't have Trevor Lawrence anymore. I don't
have Deshaun Watson, who was as good as he was.

(36:37):
He's fifty three, right, he's fifty three, and so he's
still really young and young in the coaching profession. But
but this loss to Duke is a really big deal, right,
this is I know you're on the road, but boy,
this is a Duke to You are a three touchdown
favorite over Duke already. You can hear dabos say things, Hey,

(36:59):
I'm not that up on the nil situation. I'm not.
You know, he doesn't like that as much. I'm not
a big fan of where college football is right now,
and I just wonder if this is the beginning of
the year for him, where, depending on how this year
goes for Clemson, that he becomes the next I don't

(37:20):
want to say he becomes the next Urban Meyer, because
it's completely different circumstances.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
No, I honestly thought you were going to say he
becomes the next veteran coach to become an assistant at Alabama.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, honestly, or the offensive coordinator for the Patriots, either one.
Either of those things he does. But you you wonder
if Dabo wants to Obviously he'll want to continue on
to coach, but maybe he's maxing out at Clemson and
he the salad days that he had, He's not going
to be able to keep him going. And this is

(37:51):
just one just seeing where Dabo is, you know, mentally
as far as where college football is right now, and
it's the Wild West. It changes every single day, and
a lot of coaches aren't up for it right It's
the younger coaches who are coming in right now that
are all trying to master the nil situation, the transfer
portal and all of these things that Clemson won't use.
It's kind of an antiquated way of thinking, and not

(38:15):
that it would be so much for on the the
school's side as well. But if Clemson struggles, doesn't Damosweeney
sit back and go, Okay, I think I've done all
I can do here, and if I'm not gonna be
this kind of coach, and I want to wait and
see how things shake out in college football for a
couple of years. Maybe I go and I'm on TV

(38:36):
for a couple of years and I do the Urban
Meyer thing, and then when I'm ready, I get my
pick back in because he'll go anywhere he wants to
coming off the success he had. One bad year at
Clemson isn't gonna make people think Damo doesn't know what
he's doing. Hey, give me some time away from the
game where I can still be involved in the game
and I can kind of gauge where to go from here,
because the game's gonna be different in two years than

(38:57):
it is now. Maybe it'll be a game where I'm
a little bit more conducive to succeeding in that if
I take a couple of years off, because I I
don't think he's gonna be a guy that sits around
for the fall of Clemson, right, I mean the last
two guys he's brought in. A quarterback, dj Uanila was
supposed to be in right Physically, he had all the gifts,
he couldn't win, couldn't move the team. Hey, Kate, Clubnick,

(39:18):
he's the next guy wins the games? Yeah, one games,
But wasn't wasn't Trevor Lawrence, wasn't Deshaun Watson. It's hard
to live up to those guys. But Uanila not the
guy goes to Oregon. Happiest guy in the world right now?
Is him going through fives? And we won? Uh? So
he doesn't succeed there, Clubnick, you now don't know you

(39:40):
know where he is going for because he had an
awful game tonight. Uh And so if I don't, if
he doesn't know that he's got that next great quarterback coming.
He's built a lot here, He's built this program. He's
won two national championships. I wonder if this this will
be depend if this year goes like this, that he's
at the end of the year, it's you know what,
I'm walking away. I need some time off and I'm

(40:01):
gonna go do TV. And you know he doesn't even
need to do the family think. It's just you know,
I need a breakup, burnt out. I've been doing it
for a long time. When you know he's I'm not
going to preside over a fall and the fall of
Clemson is clearly what could be coming here. So I'm wondering,
if you get to the end of this year and
this season plays out a lot of stops and starts,
he doesn't see it getting better. If this is the
end of the run for Dabbli Clemson.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
And it's not that Clemson, as we mentioned earlier, can't
have a good season and a bowl game and a
bowl win and all of that, but it is a
possibility realistically that they are two and two at the
end of this month. I was only half kidding about
becoming an assistant for Alabama. There is an Alabama clause
in that ten year contract he is just starting. If
he left after this year, for example, for Alabama specifically,

(40:46):
he would have to pay Clemson seven and a half
million dollars and that amount drops a little bit every
year all the way through twenty thirty through the life
of the contract. If he leaves Clemson for an NFL job,
he wouldn't allow I wouldn't owe Clemson anything.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, I mean, if he wants to try his head
at the NFL, this would certainly be the time to
do it. Hey, he's a hot guy coming out of college.
I just don't know if that's where he wants. I've
never really heard. Now you heard the whispers that he
wants to go to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Which is why it's written that way.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I'm sure, yeah so, but if he but if he
steps out, he steps out, right, look, I'm gonna retire.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Okay, Well he says no to the rest of the
money one of these ten year, hundred million contracts that
the Georgia coach has and the Alabama coach as the
Clemson coach is starting.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I mean, I really, because he's gonna look, he'll be
well sought after, he'll be somebody who really wants I
I just it's it's hard becuse orange. He's a dude.
I have this love hate thing with Dino Babers because
there's times I think, boy, he's really what we need

(41:53):
for seven years. Other times I go, what are we doing?
It's been sweep been to one bowl game in the
last five year. Come on, man, I this sorry, that's
my fault. That's second time. That's my fall for bringing
up Syracuse football. I thought it would be a good
thing because.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Of the you know, the opening win and all and
the shutout and too bad they can't play Colgate every week.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
But so it's okay. Now we have Western Michigan next week.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
No, oh, go for it, suh.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
As far as this orange team, Clemson, didn't they play
in the Orange Bowl last year against Tennessee. It was
all orange. You couldn't tell who was who in this crowd.
But you had a Clemson preseason top ten team that
had one touchdown against Duke for crying out loud. And
it's not the Duke's bad, it's just your Clemson. So
how is this happening? In fact, you'd have to go
back to two thousand and seven since Clemson scored this

(42:39):
few points against an unranked opponent. And here Duke is
quite a story on the flip side because with the
new coach and the scoring quarterback from last year, they
hit the ground running this year. And I know I
kind of joked about the ACC schedule that Clemson plays well,
that means that Duke gets to play some of these

(43:01):
ACC teams that we don't necessarily look up to either,
like Virginia and wake Forest and so forth. And they
also have games against Yukon and Northwestern coming up next
week Lafayette, So go for co Duke. They could be
piling up the w's.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Look at Duke, are your new college football playoff? After
Week one? It's Colorado, Syracuse, Duke and Michigan. There you go.
Those are your teams, those your fortunes.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
What if Duke actually wins at North Carolina late in
the season, Duke could have something like a ten and
two type of record. I mean, that's what they're staring at.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
The possibilities Duke versus Colorado for the national championship. Duke Colorado,
See that should be some sort of consolation bowl, because
I would watch, I would watch more than I would
watch probably one of those first round games next year.
I'll tell you what. Listen and we'll have more on
the clubs at upset loss coming up in a bit.

(43:56):
But the thing about Colorado, and it's been such a
huge conversation this weekend, there's nobody I've talked to that
hasn't the second thing in the conversation hasn't been Colorado
when it comes to sports. Whatever's going on Colorado and
Colorado's win over TCU, and and there's the look, you're
gonna hear a lot of different reasons, and you already
started to hear some Hey, what does this mean? What

(44:18):
did they accomplish? What did Colorado really do? And while
Colorado they did two things, I'll tell you they did
two things.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Quite a bit they did.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
But they did one thing, okay, and they did one
thing that's unbelievably large. The first thing they did was
they arrived sooner than expected.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I know Dion was talking a lot about all the haters. Everybody,
you didn't pick me, you didn't believe it. I don't
think there was anybody that didn't believe Dion was gonna win.
It just was was he really gonna win this fast?
Because college football is not a add water and stir
type situation, right, You you don't do that. You don't
tru up with eighty seven new players, install a new
offense and say hey, now we're gonna go play great.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Just the first half of that sentence. You don't show
up with eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
That happens everybody. It's like the first ding of summer
camp night. Everybody. If you have a blue name tag,
you're on this side a red name tag. That's right.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
So why weren't they turning the ball over left and
right as a new team or one penalty after another
or the string of false starts, and yet they kept
needing to score or make a big play, and they
kept doing it, and they won the high scoring game
at TCU Saturday because of it. Remember, Colorado lined up
for a forty nine yard field goal to end the
first half and made it and wound up winning by three.

(45:29):
It was one clutch play after another. Offense and defense
not just special teams.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
It's it's a rival suitor that expected. I thought it
would take about midway through the season and then you
were going to see Colorado be really good, right, Because
like I said, it's not he this is something that
we've never seen before, this type of performance, this quick,
with this kind of turnover. Right, it doesn't happen this way.
It just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
It couldn't before.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, And now now you're little, it's a little bit
more I would say, a tiny bit more deducive to
it because you have the transfer portal and so many
You have big time players changing every year now, so
they have.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
To jump even people that aren't.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
JT.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Daniels was quarterbacking for Rice last weekend. There are people
that are on their third and fourth team.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh. He was the first ever journeyman quarterback in college
football JT. There are some.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I mean, we saw it. We talked about Michael Pennox earlier.
The guy had five touchdown passes for Washington over the weekend,
slow start, but eventually blew out Boise State. I think
he's in his ninth year of eligibility. I think between
all the injuries and the COVID year, it might be
his ninths. Don't write that down in pen but it
might be the case.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
They serenaated him with a happy thirtieth after he threw
the fifth touchdown on Saurday.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
He's actually a clipped Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA for
Pac twelve record in most year.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
He's eclipped the age of Dorian Gray painting being able
to do that. Now we ah backwards, sorry spoiler backwards.
So he's been able to do that much quicker than anticipating,
which nobody thought. That's the bit. That's the big on
field thing is nobody thought he wasn't gonna win, but
it would take a little bit of time. And I
thought middle of the season, you get to week six,

(47:06):
week seven, then we're gonna hit a stride. But the
bigger thing they did. And this is the biggest thing
for college football is college football needs a national team.
They need a national presence to continue to grow the
game because college football has become incredibly regionalized in the
last few years. We've went through the Alabama run. That
was terrific, but we kind of got bored with Alabama.

(47:28):
We need something else, right, We had the USC dynasty
in the early two thousands, we jumped to Tim Tebow,
who ran the sport reviews. Then we had Johnny Manziel
and now what And we had Alabama's run, But we're
kind of boring with it. Alabama's not that interesting. Nick
Saban doesn't say anything. He's krusty and curmudgely. That's who
Nick Saban is. But here comes Dean Sanders, who was

(47:48):
full of bluster and bravado and talent and desire and
the desire to shove it your face. And here he
is with some dudes that you saw. His son is terrific.
You watched Travis hung that game. He had one hundred
and ten snaps. Something to marvel at. Watch them play defense,
watch them catch eleven passes for one hundred and twenty yards.
He's got dudes and Suddenly, Colorado's win is all anybody

(48:12):
wants to talk about. They are a national team. Alababa,
We're not even gonna get talk to them about the show.
No one really cares. Georgia doesn't matter. But Colorado and
Deon Sanders they have become college football. And it helps
that Deon Sanders is a huge personality, and he's someone
that we knew coming in. But it helps even more
that he's someone that doesn't care about what people say

(48:32):
about him. He doesn't care what he says. He doesn't
care what the fallen is, he doesn't care what the
reaction is to it. He is someone that grabs everybody's
attention and demands that you pay attention to him. And
that's what college football needs. They need a national team
that every Saturday, what are we gonna go? Wh Hey,
we gotta make sure I want to watch Syracuse. I
gotta make sure I watch Colorado's I'm gonna watch Indiana

(48:52):
and I gotta make sure I watch Colorado. I'm gonna
watch Stony Brook and then make sure I watch Colorado. Right,
I'm gonna watch USC. I'm gonna watch Colorado. They've become
must see television and the biggest stars of the game,
Dion and Colorado. They've become it and it's great because
it cuts through the clutter. It's new. It's not a
retread of something we've seen before. It's something we haven't

(49:12):
seen before. Tell you the two biggest sports that needed
to cut through, we're baseball at college football. Baseball got
show Heo Toddy never seen that before. Hey, that helped
the sport immensely. College football needs the same fig and
we got it. That has helped the sport immensely. They
are national, they are it in college football.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
And Fox TV wisely had Colorado as it's opening big
noon Saturday game, and boy did it deliver. And now
they had already scheduled Colorado's second game, the home opener
for Dion and Crewe. This Saturday is going to be
the big noon game on Fox TV when they host Nebraska,
and coming up the two games at the end of
September for the Buffalos at Oregon and hosting USC back

(49:52):
to back. I'm glad you brought up Travis Hunter of
Colorado because that's a superstar recruit that Dion brought with him,
and he brought two family members who started Saturday as well, so,
in addition to all the other transfers, he personally in
this unique change of venue brought immediate talent with him.
It wasn't just other transfer portal guys from some independent

(50:15):
you choosing Colorado, but Travis Hunter with the starring plays
on offense and defense. You're old enough to get this
reference I mentioned on the Saturday Night Show. It immediately
reminded me of Gordie Lockbaum, a guy from holy Cross
who finished third for the Heisman Trophy in the late
nineteen eighties because he played defense and offense. The year

(50:38):
before his Heisman votes season, he had eight hundred yards rushing,
eight hundred yards receiving at about fifty tackles all in
the same season, and then was even better than that
as a senior at holy Cross. He got to New
York as Heisman finalist. Travis Hunter had a phenomenal opening
his first game with Colorado.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, no, no, and there's more. Le mean, look obviously
at Colorado and being that guy, he's going to get
a little more, a little more exposure than you do
it at holy Cross. I love Yeah, I don't think
Holly Back.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
To the high Lockbom cover of Sports illustrated. That's how
the country found out. People used to read, you know,
print magazines back then.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
That that is true. That is true. But you know
it's it's just it's when stuff cuts through the clutter,
it's different. It just it just lands differently because oh,
I haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
This kind of like this show in the evenings on
the landscape of United States Radio exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
It's we got to give you something. Look, look and
you know you say that that's kind that's kind of accurate,
because what we need to do is give you stuff
that you haven't heard all day. That's right.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
And can I say as a listener, what you guys
do you and Mike, is you treat this like the
live radio show it is. I can't tell you the
amount of shows I have heard that sound like either
they could be podcasts or tape. This morning, you are
on top of things as games are happening, like tonight,
and first with the recap after the evening games are done.

(52:04):
It's a good show.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Oh, thank you very much, Steve. You want to be
on again tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
No, oh, I am not saying that for this reason.
I'm saying as a listener, it delivers in that way
and that's what we as sports fans need and do we.
I can't tell you the amount of people that probably
had a Colorado show written and would have gone all
the hours with it. And guess what, something bigger happened
for tonight and you've been on it. That's the show.

(52:30):
That's what happens on this show. Whether I'm in the
building on a particular night or not, that's what happens.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Steve de Sager is in the building. Steve de Sager
is in the building. Twitter, and how about a fresco
Jason Smith Steve Sager in for Mike Harmon tonight to here,
Colorado has become the topic in that quick a time. Hey,
you know what my most the most favorite part I
had from the Colorado game against TCU on Saturday. Coming
up next, plus a big story out of Major League

(52:57):
Baseball as it looks like the Dodgers may be without
one of their best players for the rest of the season.
That's coming up next right here, Fox
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