October 5, 2023 • 37 mins
In Hour 3 of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react the Minnesota Twins’ first playoff series win since 2002, and Jason believes they will topple the Astros in the next round. The guys revisit the Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift story, and discuss why people should not be up in arms over the NFL’s coverage of the couple. Plus, Jason compares James Harden to going to a mall, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
Day two of the Major League Baseball Playoffs. We had
four games, just like we had last night, and now
there's no more games until Saturday because we had us
sweep in all four series and just like that, like that,
like that, exactly, just like that, everything is done in
the first round and now the four heavyweights get to
(01:12):
play this weekend and we get to see the Dodgers
and the Braves and the Astros and the Orioles. I
really do like the fact that they have four games
a night.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know that used to be where baseball would do.
We'll have three games on one night, and then the
next night there'll be one game, then will be two
games together. But now because you added around a playoffs
and you got to push it, you know, quantity is
always a winner, you know, like you can't always bank
on quality, right, And that's what I think some sports
are trying to are starting to find out a little
bit and that you could say, hey, we have the
(01:44):
West NBA could say, hey we got the big Western
Conference finals man Nuggets Lakers. But if the Nuggets get
up out to a two to nothing lead and they're
winning Game three by thirty, guess what, no one's watching
the rest of the series. And suddenly you had this
great series that everybody would watch, and well, now suddenly
it's done because the Nuggets are gonna dominate and it's done,
and people watch two and a half games of it.
(02:05):
You can't really count on quality anymore. You can't count
on a game that people are gonna watch, or a
series of people are gonna watch, no matter what what
a greg? If the Niners are working the Cowboys and
it's twenty four to three at halftime Sunday night, guess
who's watching the second half of Sunday Night Football. Nobody. Well,
I'll check back in, you know, I'll check back in,
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see what the score is that a third quarter, See
if it's any close. If it's closer, I'll go back
to it. If not, it's done. You can't count on
quality anymore. And and sports are finding that, and professional
leagues are finding that. What they are finding is that, hey,
if we give you more quantity, that's a big win
because if there's games you don't want to see, well,
there's the possibility that one of the other games is
(02:46):
gonna be good. Or hey, you're still watching for there's
still four games on. There's still action. It feels like
there's more action even if you don't get close series.
And what are we seeing different sports do now to
combat this? Major League Baseball's got the extra round of playoffs.
Four games last night, four games night would have been
four games tomorrow. Right in the NBA, well, we don't
have the nonut. We're not We're starting with the play
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and we're starting with a bunch of games with three
and four games a night, and we're going all the
way through, and seven plays ten and eight plays nine,
we go all the way through. Yeah, we realized that
that works. What did college basketball? Hey? You know what, Hey,
more more the merrier. Let's have more games. You know
we have, Oh, we have the opening first round on
Tuesday and Wednesday and then into other games. Every sport
has realized that the more games you can throw on
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at one time, the better it is, and the more
likely it is you're gonna get people watching. Because baseball fans,
if you're turn on the playoffs, by and large, your
team is not playing right more than likely. Here's two
thirds of the league is home. But if you turn
on a game and you know that there's four games
going on, if there's a game you don't, okay, I
can find another game that I'm gonna like for a
little while, and I'll watch that, and then if that
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game gets out of hand, there's another game on that
I'll like somewhere, so I'll turn that on for a
little while. So I think what you're seeing, you're seeing
the new era of sports coming up, is that you
know what we're not wasting games. By putting them on
all at once, we're kind of amping up the viewership
and saying, hey, we're owning this night in sports. We're
owning this night because because teams aren't gonna becuse, leagues
(04:12):
aren'tnna look and say, well the ratings for this game
on ESPO. But ESPN's gonna say, hey, our ratings. We
got x amount of people that watch both of these games,
and Fox Sports one will say the same thing, and ABC.
So when you get more quantity, you see more sports
and more professional leagues are saying, hey, yeah, let's put more.
So let's put chaos on. People seem to like chaos
and everything else, right, people seem to like chaos and
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politics and movies.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And even in stuff that really matter, like chaos, Give
me chaos, stuff that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No, give me chaos. So hey, let's push the chaos
onto major League Baseball. Let's say and these I loved
four games yesterday and I love four games today because
you know what I did, exactly what everybody does during
the end during the college basketball playoffs, because you see
the scores on the top, you can see when someone's
got second and third, oh second and third. Nobody out Boom,
I'm going over to that game for a few minutes,
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and I'm watching baseball, and I'm doing it now. I
do it anyway because I love baseball. You do the
same thing. But the average baseball fan, Okay, I got Oh,
now I know what's going on in this game. Oh,
Astros have second and third. I'm going over. Your Dodgers
have the bases. Look here, you would you would be
able to do that, and you've been able to do
that the last couple of days. And that's a winning strategy.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Now they just need to partner with YouTube TV or
whomever so we can get the four box of all
of them together, even though they're on different networks, and
then you can fight over who gets the lion's share
of the ratings for anybody that chooses that option.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But now that I'd like to say that, i'd like
to see, Hey, different networks, we're gonna put it all
on the same screen from out Major League Baseball. Let's go,
But which audio do you play?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, just like in the NFL, you gotta scroll over
to the toph top of it. But look, you your
point's well taken. I mean, look, we look to live
sports as the be all to and all in terms
of grabbing eyeball. You know why the advertising rates are
still so immense for the playoffs for the tournament for
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you know, college football. That's why they're salivating over the
playoffs to come. Revenue goes through the roof. Why we
have all these deals in place for each of these
conferences in football and basketball, the rate and the cost
of admission, and why some teams get left behind. He
no revenants of the PAC twelve and all of those
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things come together. But with Major League Baseball, look, they
don't have to be good games. They just need to
be close for you to keep watching right or to
tune back in once the game that you focused on
has finished. And what we've have now is a nice
convergence of things whereby you've got some new blood mixed in,
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so you're getting ratings and eyeballs from cities that have
been dormant a while. I'm certainly not taking shots at
my guy, Scott Shapiro and his twins, but we're watching
the Twins right. We've seen the Phillies, we've seen the Braves,
we've seen the Dodgers. Now we've got a bunch of
other new entrants coming into the picture, right, the Diamondbacks
with a lot of young talent. You know, you've got
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a guy in Corbyn Carroll that they'll be able to
feature as much as they possibly can here going forward.
So it's good for the game and you're trying to
steal eyeballs. Did you work around the Thursday night game?
I wouldn't have as soon as I saw that it
was the Bears and Commanders. You know what, you guys
can have a day off between game two game, We'll
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go this may be the one time we could eat
the NFL's lunch on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wait, what's the game?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, we can put something on there.
We'll be all good.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They changed the schedule. What happened, Well, we decided to
give them.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
A day off after the.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Second day of the Wildcard round. But legitimately it is
trying to figure out how do you maximize your audience,
how do you try to get folks excited? You and
I both as we've talked about a lot tonight, and
we did with John Paul Morosi earlier in the show.
It's like an extra day off might have been nice,
right to allow it to build get away for an
NFL Sunday, but you run into the problem of Thursday
(08:11):
night football and running into a college football and NFL
slate again as you get to the weekend where for
your wildcard round, maybe you were a little concerned. All right,
well these are these are not the Juggernauts, so maybe
there's not as much much interest. But you know the series,
you know, though they all end in two games, you
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each had their storyline and things that flow out of it.
You're trying to photoshop Council into a Mets uniform as
we speak. You may have heard that customer. I don't
have to already, I don't have to try too hard.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There literally is Ai Craig Council managing the Mets already
on social media?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I will say, I will ask you here's here's a
fail for us with John Paul Morosi, though earlier you
could ask him just explicitly, Hey, I was thinking of
getting a Council jersey made. What number is he gonna
wear with the Mets.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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All right, so let's sometimes you don't realize you're in
on the ground floor of what is next in sports.
And that's what's next in sports is everybody's gonna throw
us quantity and it works. Now, let's do this right,
we had, we saw the teams winning, and we were
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going into the next round of the playoffs that all
begin on Saturday. So I'm gonna ask you this, all right,
We asked John Paul Morosi. He said that he thinks
the Phillies are the team that has the best chance
to pull an upset in the next round of the playoffs.
I disagree the Braves. The Braves are this is a
different Braves team than we've seen, and it's it's the
(09:46):
best Braves team, even better than the team that won
the World Series. Can remember they didn't have Ronald Lacuna
when they won the World Series and the guy was
forty and seventy this year. But if I'm gonna say,
if I'm gonna give you an upset for this round
in the playoffs, I gonna go. And this is not
to curry favor with our manager, Scot Shapiro, but I'm
gonna go twins over the Astros. Why the Astros didn't
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have a great year, and certainly you can say, well
the team that won the World Series, Nah, but they struggled.
It came down to the final week, final days of
the regular season for them to get in the playoffs. Right,
that Al West was insane with Hey, the Mariners could
could win the division or miss entirely. Same thing with
the Astros, same thing with the Rangers. Now the last
week the Astro show, Listen, We're the Astros were able
(10:30):
to win. We won the games we had to. But
this is a ninety win Astros team. This is not
a dominant Astros team. And the Twins looked really good
these first these last two games. They hit a lot
of home runs, right, you know they they don't. They
don't have somebody that's getting hitting like forty home runs,
but their entire team they hit home runs up and
down the lineup. Right. My only concern is that they
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just got two great games from Lopezan Gray, Right, they
were both fantastic. Yes, you needed them to these games.
Now you start this series on Saturday, Boy, I'd think
long and hard about bringing these guys back on three
days rest to pitch Game one in Game two, because
I know you think well, if we just get a split,
we go home. Yeah, but if you don't get to split,
(11:14):
the series is over. You're down two Zip. I'd really
think long and hard about, Hey, they pitched really well.
Lopez only pitched five innings last night. I think long
and hard about saying, yeah, let's do that. They've been
pitching great, these guys are terrific. Let's go with Pablo
Lopez and Sunny Gray game one in game two, and
let's see what happens. They're hot, we're hot, we're confident.
Let's go forward. Let's strike while the iron's hot. On that,
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I realize it's an all or nothing type moment, because
if you lose it, it's like, Okay, now our two
best pitchers were down to Zip without them, but you
gotta pitch at some point. You got to try to
win the series, and you don't want to go back
to Minnesota saying well, now we're down twos. Well, now
we have our guys. Well, now if you split those
two games, doesn't matter. Series over, you're down three to one.
So I'd really think that's the one thing I would say, is, boy,
I think a lot about three days rest for those guys.
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I really would.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm looking at the other al series. The Diamondbacks
could be interesting. I mean, obviously familiarity with the Dodds
Dodgers forced straight year that they're facing a team from
the NL West in the divisional round, which is kind
of odd because remember one long ago they really wanted
to avoid all of that stuff at the playoffs out
It's like, hey, you know, whatever happens happens. I mean,
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you're getting your cannibalization of your NL East teams. It's
like your greatest fantasy. Only one of you can remain,
and maybe it'll be Bieber Harper, your favorite guy when
it's all said done. But looking at Texas and Baltimore again,
going back to the youth side of things. For Baltimore,
I like it. I liked the phraseology of the cauldron
(12:43):
of the AL East as JP. I mean that would
mean that you really, I know the Yankees finished above
five hundred, but did they ever feel like they were
threatening for anything?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
No, No, they were lucky to fin I still can't
believe they finished. It's amazing, Nila and they finished five.
Instead of the narrative for the Yankees being ah, we
were talking, should be dude, with this team. Did you
see what happened? We finished five hundred. Man, maybe that's
what I would do if I was Aaron Boone. Hey,
don't get mad at me, look at look at how
we fit. This team was awful and we still finished
five hundred. I'm ready for next season.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, I think for me, I'm looking at that that
Texas and Baltimore series not so much youth, is that
you do have a fairly relentless lineup for Texas to
get after it. And I'm wondering if Baltimore's pitching holds
in the series, not that the young guns there, and
I know there's been a lot of jokes made about
(13:33):
how they're cloning guys. When you add a few more
dudes from the minor league to that photo array, it
really is kind of scary. Smith. I'll have to send
that to you. Like that same haircut, you know, long
hair flowing and whatever I mean. And they're exciting to watch,
and my friends in Baltimore now hate me. But just
wondering if that isn't potentially where where we see an
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up update and upset coming out. Obviously, losing Bautista is
a big deal in the back of that pen so
you get into the later innings. Guy who was nails
for you with a one four eighty ra a one
hundred and ten strikeouts, He ain't there exit.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
How about a Fresca exit, swollen dopes. There we go.
There's our pick for upset. Look, I'd love to be
able to pick the Diamondbacks an upset, but I really
can't see the Dodgers losing this round. I can't see
suddenly the Diamondbacks are world beaters, you know. Look, I
just like if you look at the grid right but
it's hard, man, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well just looking at the grid right now. And you
got all the TBAs for pitching except Kershaw.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody else TVA did Kershaw. He's been
written into Game one probably since early June. Oh no, sorry,
when he came as soon as he came back from
injury and he pitched his first game. Okay, yeah, Game
one Clayton Kershaw. Really, I mean what they didn't they
announced Bobby Miller's Game two like a month and a
half ago. Seriously, I mean they did that. Yeah, he's
gonna pitch, Say wait, really, yeah, second game of the
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divisions that we're in gonna pit a second game. It's okay,
sow's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Let's get it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
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hate Taylor Swift, today was your day. Wait, what guess
If you hate Taylor Swift, today was your day. Today
(16:35):
was the day. The Taylor Swift NFL backlash came into
full focus, with the NFL putting out a statement defending
themselves in the wake of the backlash. If I don't
like seeing Taylor Swift everywhere on my TV, which is
just the most insane amount of backlash, but still it's there.
Taylor Swift, who's been dating Travis Kelcey allegedly.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Please hanging out the NFL games allegedly unless it was
a body double and it wasn't really hurt with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now I just open up a can of worms entirely.
Now she was really there.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It was all a hologram the whole time.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Maybe it was there, Maybe it wasn't. Maybe, but you've
seen a lot of her, whether it was cutting away
to her in the stands at the game, whether it
was commercials about her tour, whether it was watching people
talk about them on television or hearing about the Travis
Kelcey and Jason Kelsey podcast. It's been a lot of
tailor Swift and there's been backlash, mainly on social media,
(17:34):
which is ridiculous. Where the NFL tried to defend its
recent coverage of Taylor Swift. The NFL putting out a
statement on Wednesday saying, look, we change our bios and
profile imagery on our official Twitter account based on what's
happening in and around our games, which is why they
put hey Chiefs two and oh since the NFL became
Swifties on their Twitter account. It got a lot of criticism,
(17:57):
So the NFL to take that down.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Bad look. Your owner even leaned into Swift.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, yeah, it's a bad look because I'm going boy,
why was that holding call on Sauce Gardener? Was it
because Hey, the NFL's Taylor Swift fans, So the NFL
had to put that out In the statement, they also
said that, look, we've we leaned into this in real time.
It's an intersection of sports and entertainment, and we've seen
a lot of positivity about this and the but the
vast majority of our content has remained focused on the game,
(18:26):
are players and variety of other initiatives. So this is
the NFL's how to defend their coverage of Taylor Swift,
which makes me go crazy. Anytime there's a knee jerk
reaction because people decide to hate something for no good reason,
you gotta just ignore it. Right. There's certain criticisms, Okay,
you gotta step up, you gotta say something here, But
the only people that are hating on Taylor Swift's coverage
(18:49):
are because they're looking for something to hate. We are
too ready to hate in this in this country, and
we have been for a long time. Right. Everything gets
us upset, whether it's driving or politic sir or Inflation's
always that we're ready to hate way earlier people wake
up in the morning. I want to hate something. Here's
Taylor Swift at a football game. I hate it? Why
(19:09):
because I do? Why do you hate it? Because they
keep showing her too much? So wait, they're not showing
the game. No, no, no, They're showing everything in the game.
They're just cutting away to her too much in the stands. Okay,
well they got to cut away to something after a game?
They are they not? Did you miss a touchdown because
they showed Taylor Swift? Well? No, okay, did they stop
part of the game from being played because Taylor Swift
was at the game?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Did they stop a game early in the fourth quarter
because Taylor Swift had to leave and they had to
make sure it was safe for No? No, no, So
what are you mad about? I just don't like Taylor Swift.
This makes no sense. The NFL should have just said,
suck it. This is something fun that everybody is coming
around to and you can enjoy it. They're showing her
at the games because she's dating Travis Kelsey. It's no
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different than showing anybody else any other stars. They show
cutaways of stars and games all the time. Are they
showing Taylor Swift a lot? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Because Taylor Swift is that's the biggest female pop star
in the world, in the world, and she's more popular
than the NFL as you have seen because she's taken
over the NFL. People that hate seeing her don't have
a good reason. There's no reason to not like her.
There's no reason to not like seeing her. You're not
missing anything of the game. You're not getting any less
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coverage of the game than you are before. Nothing is
different other than instead of looking at a fan eating
nachos in a number sixty eight jersey, you're getting Taylor Swift,
maybe hanging out with Blake Lively, maybe Ryan Reynolds, maybe
Hugh Jackman, although you wouldn't know it because they should
have said those people's names on Sunday Night. But nothing
has changed. Nothing's changing the coverage and how you can
enjoy the game. Oh, I just told why. There's no
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good reason other than just I want to hate something
and people like that you don't deserve. You don't have
to explain it to people, right, you go buy moneyball.
When Jonah Hill tells Billy, Billy, these are difficult moves
to explain to people, and Billy says, then don't. Oh,
you don't need to explain why you're showing tailor's if
you were affecting the coverage. I get it. If something
(21:03):
changed and I'm turning on a game and I'm not
getting my normal NFL because if I'm missing a touchdown,
if Garrett Wilson catches a tight rope touchdown with his
left pinky finger and that's all he has the hole
onto the football and Chris Collins without to say, well,
you know, we're sorry we were showing Taylor Swift talking
to Blake Lively, but boy, what a catch by Garrett Wilson.
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And let me tell you how great a quarterback Zach
Wilson is. Oh my goodness, Zach Wilson maybe the greatest quarterback.
If that happened, I get it. But there is nothing.
There is absolutely nothing, and there's no reason to hate
the NFL showing Taylor Swift or talking about her. This
is a fake controversy and people are just mad because
they want to be mad about something, and they've just
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decided my ire this week on social media is gonna
be the NFL showing Taylor Swift and real no one
is turning off an NFL game because they keep showing
Taylor Swift if they show her one more time, I'm
not gonna watch really yep, click, no, I'll turn it
back on. I mean, none of this is happening. It's fake.
Outrage in the NFL decides, well, we should do something
we don't want. We don't want people to turn off.
(22:06):
We want people to say we're too Taylor Swift centric
into the NFL just panicked. And I wish you would
have just just let people that want to hate let
him say what they want to say, and just ignore
it because this is fake.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Because the hater's gonna hate hate, hate, hate hate.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
See you let me right to it. You should have
done the Burman. You should have done TJ. Haters gonna
hate hate a now you're bermingers. But and occasionally Frostburg
decides he needs that one. But it's the idea for me.
Is we talked about it a little earlier with commercials, right,
We see the same people in our commercial beds, whether
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it's celebrity or you know whoever the pitch man or
woman is for a product that advertises heavily.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You see, you know your guy fireman ed? How many
fireman ed shots did we get on Sunday night? More
than one.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm sure if they should Fireman D one more time, No,
but I don't care about Fireman. That always part of
the game. Why he's got the game. He's just like
Taylor Swift, except he's on somebody's shoulders and he's waving
his helmet, going let's do the jets chan again. Let's
put let's spell four letters in a row again like
we've been doing for thirty years. But go back to
the last couple of years of Brady. What did we get?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Nothing but shots of Giselle bunchin all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You and I would chuckle about.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It whenever they were on a Monday night or a
Thursday night window and it's like, all right, there she
is again, and you laugh about it because like, all right,
she's getting a lot of run.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Good, she's there.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
People are excited, and you know, any of the stuff saying, well,
the NBA's always done this stuff, like yeah, but they're
not the biggest star in the world that has now
been been included in your world. Right, here's the quick
run of twenty two people that are there. I mean
they did it for the Colorado Games the last month. Sure, right,
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are never any cavalcade of stars that's suddenly decided to
show up. But it's the the idea that you lean
into a moment, and for the NFL to have to
issue a statement to decide that that was necessary, that's
weak sauce. Right, address some of the other problems that
your officials are having or whatever else is going on.
(24:18):
This one's not one to respond to. You're having fun
with it. I would have put up then, you know,
here's our latest tweet for those that are really mad.
Turning up in Tottenham with the British flag is the
current bio for the NFL on their Twitter account. By
the way, only thirty three point seven million followers on
x It's a lot of missed opportunity. Hence they need
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more swift crossover and better tagging in this process. But
think about all the folks exposed to you know, your
your product, at least in some way via all the
social media avenues right, TikTok, Instagram, et cetera. It's just
a picture of her, it's still tagged. You know she
was at a football game. Why is she showing up
(25:03):
at football games? Here's some more exposure for Travis Kelsey,
who really got a lot of good run out of
all of this fun for sure. And the most look,
the loudest critics of this other than the anonymous chuckleheads
in the social media sphere are the yellers as I
like to call them in our industry. And look, they
a lot of them make seven figures and they're big
(25:24):
shots and they're popular people because they're on TV. But
most of them are there to make you believe that
they know what they're talking about. It is how loudly
can I scream about something? And where are people having
fun that I can go the other way? And this
is completely a everybody's having fun? Where can I go
the other way and go grab and hug the get
(25:47):
off my lawn guy that listens to me in city xyz.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well you know why that look? And there's been a
lot of guys in the national media too that have that.
That's what I mean, I hate, right, So you get
the hate on social media and then you get national
personalits going why they keep telling Talla Swift you know it?
First of all, you sound like you're a thousand years old.
And secondly, I'll pull the curtain backs. I'll tell you
exactly what people who are who are doing that ridiculous
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rant are doing. They can't talk about Taylor Swift intelligently.
They can't make a point, they can't talk about her
popularity in the NFL, they can't talk about relationships. They
don't know what to say, so she don't have to do.
I'm very loudly just gonna say I hate it, and
they don't have a reason to hate it. They just
are going to say it because they can't talk intelligently
about it and they live click to click. So what
(26:34):
do I do if I yell and I rant that
I just don't like Tyala Swift. I don't want to
see it. Why do I gotta see it? Why do
not see it? It's ridiculous. But when you when you
shout yell about something like that, yeah, people are gonna
pay attention to that because all they're talking about. But
it's it's the most it's the most lowest common denominator
thing you can have, and that's all it is. I
don't have anything compelling to say about this because I'm
(26:56):
not really as well versed in things as I should be,
So that's what my take is gonna be. I hate it.
So in that way, it's kind of just an enhancement
of people who just want to hate things because I
want to hate Taylor Swift. Now you have people that
have to go on TV. We got to talk about
Taylor Swift. Well, I don't know where songs, I don't
know this. I just I hate it. I hate it.
Now I'm in an uncomfortable position of talking about something
(27:16):
that I don't know a lot about. So I hate it.
And that's how you get those takes on television, right,
That's how you get those takes out there, And that's
how this topic gains a little bit more oxygen when
it should have zero oxygen.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, folks get excitable and look, I get it, drink
references or force feeding song lyrics or whatever. I did
it tongue in cheek as you handed the baton my way,
but you know, I get it where maybe maybe you
could say it's a little much or a little forced
here and there, but overall, you've co mingled two of
(27:48):
the greatest brands going right now and those audiences and
just lean into it. All. Right, She's going back on
tour in like two and a half weeks, right the
eighteenth it starts.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
She just leave to go prep for tour. So I
think she's done going a game. She may be done, right,
I mean, that might be it, because I mean even
the Vikings this week were like, hey, if she wants
to come, that'd because it's over. Yeah, see it's not well.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And then they issued another statement, our twins are still alive.
I mean, and look, if if the Vikings had won
this week, then they might have been even louder with
one of those Bart Simpson, I've chained together five hundred
megaphones so I could really get the word out, please
Taylor come to this game. But they got the victory.
(28:37):
But yeah, she's going back on tour. She's got a
few more US dates, and then the whole international part
of things starts to flow. So you know it was
going to be a short lived Hey you get to
come for a couple of weeks, hang out and be
quote kind of normal folk. Right. That shot at the
(28:58):
stadium on Sunday going in was the funniest.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Wow, it's so quiet. Look, I'm sorry Taylor Swift is
more popular than the NFL, but she is. I mean
she is. If Travis Kelsey shows up at a Taylor
Swift concert, now that people really care, by the way,
but pay attention, no big, but we don't even we
wouldn't even talk about that. But Taylor Swift in a
football game. Hey, it's she's got ninety five million Twitter followers.
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The NFL's gotten thirty more.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, we did have fun with him that with the
fact that your tourist quarterback who wants everything to be
about him. Uh he he did go and spend a
lot of time watching the Taylor Swift Show. So we
did talk about that, but that was more keeping tabs
on his tourist y kind of things ahead of the season.
And always remember Travis Kelsey started it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You want to hate somebody, go hate try Legitimately, he
shot his shot.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We celebrated him shooting his shot. Everybody was like, oh,
you know, there's your alpha man shooting his shot. Good
for him. And look even the screamers were all excited
about that, right and then all of a sudden she
shows up. It's like, well she shouldn't have come, Like
that was a great pipe dream. Now she's here and
she's runing our fine, she's ruining the sanctity of the sport.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You go blame Kelsey, you want to blame somebody, it's
all his fault. You go blame him.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You started it, Kelsey started it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
This is all so fake and I wish the NFL
would just blow this off and just say we're gonna
do whatever the hell we want to. Taylor Swift come
into games. We're gonna show her games because we show
people at games, we cut away from action, we go
back to it. Nobody gets hurt, nobody misses NFL action. Right.
The way people are reacting to this in the NFL
is backing yup. It's like they said, hey, we have
to apologize for missing those three touchdowns on Sunday Night
(30:46):
Football that were scored in the second half because we
had to show Taylor Swift and whatever kind of na
shows she was eating. I mean, it's hey, sorry about that. Yeah, Hey, sorry,
we didn't show you the Sauce Gardener pats interference or
the Holy pedalty because we were showing Taylor Swift, who
was talking to Blake Lively and I'm sure they were
filming something for Wrexham. Sorry, you missed that. That's not happening.
It's all fake and you should just ignore those haters.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Now, what would have been funny is if Redel had
showed up playing eight welcome torecs. Shir oh heie watch
my show.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, look, ignore, you gotta ignore the haters. You just
have to ignore the haters.
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going a.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Different nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, no, no, no, well, and it could be twenty
twenty three. It did this.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This is because there's a lot of empty storefronts in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No there are, but okay, but okay, so okay, imagine
yourself in a mole. All right, So you're at a
wall and you're walking. You're walking from north Stromac all
the way down to Sears or Sears to J. C.
Pennies or makes the Sears end to be nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You said, Jac Penny are they're still there.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Too, and a couple of paintings from Seears. So you
get down there and you walk by and you see
somebody at a kiosk and there's this helicopter toy that's
flying around and doing circles above, and you stop and
you see it and you go, oh, that's pretty cool.
I think boy'd be cool to fly one of those things.
And the guy at the kiosk is flying it up
and back around, and they say, oh, that'd be really cool.
(32:47):
And you watch it for a couple of minutes and
he brings it down for a land and he goes
up and he says, ah, here it is. It's only
twenty nine to ninety nine. And then you stop and
you go, ah, it was fun. Then you walk away.
You know what, that's something like that that sounds great
is really only fun for five minutes, Like, yeah, I'm
flying this helicopter. What are you gonna do? How long
are you gonna fly it for? I just watched it
fly for a couple minutes. It was kind of cool,
it landed. I'm not gonna buy it. I'm gonna keep
(33:08):
going because it's something that's fun for five minutes. James
Harden is now a guy who was fun for five minutes.
All Right, The big story today in the NBA. Oh,
hey James Harden? What what going on with James har Oh?
He's gonna be back with the seventy six ers now
after his two day absence. He still wants a trade.
James Harden is fun for five minutes because he's fun
(33:30):
to talk about for five minutes, and then the reality
sets in that if he plays for the seventy six Ers,
they're not a title favorite because the other teams in
the East got better and they weren't a title favorite
when he was on the team last year. If he
goes to the Clippers, are they gonna be a title favorite? Now?
They're not because you got better teams that got better.
James Harden at his best is a support player who
(33:53):
sucks the oxygen out of everything else going on with
the team. That's what He's still let the league in
assist last year, which is great. But he's a support player.
And the energy and the attention that you have to
spend on him, and the ball volume that he demands
with the ball in his hands is not worth it anymore.
(34:13):
And so the actual impact of James Harden on a
basketball court is so little now, but the image of
Harden as being a superstar is still there. Oh, James Harden, Yeah,
this is something. James Harden's fun for five minutes. Then
we're onto other things and other players that actually matter,
that are actually better, they actually do affect that the
title race and everything else that goes along with it.
(34:33):
He's fun for five minutes. Then you realize, oh, he's
no longer a difference maker that's going to bring a
team a championship, and then you move on. But right
now still a big name and a big headline. But
after five minute, after watching him fly around in a
helicopter for Comms, comes down for a landing, Yeah, okay,
then you move on, We're on to something else.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
On the plus side, he finally got a little bit
of his shot back after a couple of years where
it it was not good down at that forty rangey.
He's at least back up to forty four last year.
But to your point. Yeah, he can move the ball,
assists he's what double digit assists in five straight years?
(35:11):
I think it is and lead in the league. If
it's it's the question of when do you know? We
talk about it in the NFL all the time. When
do you know you're now with the number two receiver
as opposed to having been in the alpha?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Can you make that adjustment seamlessly? And nothing about James
Harden says that that can be the case.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And that's the hard part.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I would say this though, if he shows up with
the Clippers, he'll at least want to play every game.
I don't know, Lilly, he may not play well.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But yeah, but is he good or is he gonna
find a way after a little while to say all
this sucks too? Just like he got how long? Because
it comes from there.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Because he only had fifty eight games this last year.
But there's so much infighting. I mean, I want a
documentary about the season that was for Philadelphia this last year.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with I that'll go, oh,
but it's gonna be great and then oh, now James
Harden is not happy and he wants to go someplace else.
That's how it's gonna go. That's James Harden. Man. I'm
telling you that's more.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Fun for us though. But he's got to stay on
one of these teams where they're they're relevant even if
he isn't, because the chaos that ensues. I mean, look
today I was enraptured watching Ben Simmons hit ten straight
free throws in practice.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Could you believe that? Did you really just bring Ben Simmons?
You really just said Ben Simmons? Yeah, I did, Ben Simmons.
Look what I did. You wanted chaos? You brought up
chaos earlier. I didn't say it was okay to bring
up Ben Simmons. Come on, man, I mean that's he's
like what you.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Brought up James Harden and open the door?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
What no, No, No, He's like I harked it in.
He's like James Harden one point oh right? When when
is it? When it's less right? It's one point oh right.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He's James Harden one point oh point one.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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Day two of the Major League Baseball Playoffs. We had
four games, just like we had last night, and now
there's no more games until Saturday because we had us
sweep in all four series and just like that, like that,
like that, exactly, just like that, everything is done in
the first round and now the four heavyweights get to
(01:12):
play this weekend and we get to see the Dodgers
and the Braves and the Astros and the Orioles. I
really do like the fact that they have four games
a night.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know that used to be where baseball would do.
We'll have three games on one night, and then the
next night there'll be one game, then will be two
games together. But now because you added around a playoffs
and you got to push it, you know, quantity is
always a winner, you know, like you can't always bank
on quality, right, And that's what I think some sports
are trying to are starting to find out a little
bit and that you could say, hey, we have the
(01:44):
West NBA could say, hey we got the big Western
Conference finals man Nuggets Lakers. But if the Nuggets get
up out to a two to nothing lead and they're
winning Game three by thirty, guess what, no one's watching
the rest of the series. And suddenly you had this
great series that everybody would watch, and well, now suddenly
it's done because the Nuggets are gonna dominate and it's done,
and people watch two and a half games of it.
(02:05):
You can't really count on quality anymore. You can't count
on a game that people are gonna watch, or a
series of people are gonna watch, no matter what what
a greg? If the Niners are working the Cowboys and
it's twenty four to three at halftime Sunday night, guess
who's watching the second half of Sunday Night Football. Nobody. Well,
I'll check back in, you know, I'll check back in,
(02:25):
see what the score is that a third quarter, See
if it's any close. If it's closer, I'll go back
to it. If not, it's done. You can't count on
quality anymore. And and sports are finding that, and professional
leagues are finding that. What they are finding is that, hey,
if we give you more quantity, that's a big win
because if there's games you don't want to see, well,
there's the possibility that one of the other games is
(02:46):
gonna be good. Or hey, you're still watching for there's
still four games on. There's still action. It feels like
there's more action even if you don't get close series.
And what are we seeing different sports do now to
combat this? Major League Baseball's got the extra round of playoffs.
Four games last night, four games night would have been
four games tomorrow. Right in the NBA, well, we don't
have the nonut. We're not We're starting with the play
(03:07):
and we're starting with a bunch of games with three
and four games a night, and we're going all the
way through, and seven plays ten and eight plays nine,
we go all the way through. Yeah, we realized that
that works. What did college basketball? Hey? You know what, Hey,
more more the merrier. Let's have more games. You know
we have, Oh, we have the opening first round on
Tuesday and Wednesday and then into other games. Every sport
has realized that the more games you can throw on
(03:29):
at one time, the better it is, and the more
likely it is you're gonna get people watching. Because baseball fans,
if you're turn on the playoffs, by and large, your
team is not playing right more than likely. Here's two
thirds of the league is home. But if you turn
on a game and you know that there's four games
going on, if there's a game you don't, okay, I
can find another game that I'm gonna like for a
little while, and I'll watch that, and then if that
(03:50):
game gets out of hand, there's another game on that
I'll like somewhere, so I'll turn that on for a
little while. So I think what you're seeing, you're seeing
the new era of sports coming up, is that you
know what we're not wasting games. By putting them on
all at once, we're kind of amping up the viewership
and saying, hey, we're owning this night in sports. We're
owning this night because because teams aren't gonna becuse, leagues
(04:12):
aren'tnna look and say, well the ratings for this game
on ESPO. But ESPN's gonna say, hey, our ratings. We
got x amount of people that watch both of these games,
and Fox Sports one will say the same thing, and ABC.
So when you get more quantity, you see more sports
and more professional leagues are saying, hey, yeah, let's put more.
So let's put chaos on. People seem to like chaos
and everything else, right, people seem to like chaos and
(04:34):
politics and movies.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And even in stuff that really matter, like chaos, Give
me chaos, stuff that's really really important.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No, give me chaos. So hey, let's push the chaos
onto major League Baseball. Let's say and these I loved
four games yesterday and I love four games today because
you know what I did, exactly what everybody does during
the end during the college basketball playoffs, because you see
the scores on the top, you can see when someone's
got second and third, oh second and third. Nobody out Boom,
I'm going over to that game for a few minutes,
(05:03):
and I'm watching baseball, and I'm doing it now. I
do it anyway because I love baseball. You do the
same thing. But the average baseball fan, Okay, I got Oh,
now I know what's going on in this game. Oh,
Astros have second and third. I'm going over. Your Dodgers
have the bases. Look here, you would you would be
able to do that, and you've been able to do
that the last couple of days. And that's a winning strategy.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Now they just need to partner with YouTube TV or
whomever so we can get the four box of all
of them together, even though they're on different networks, and
then you can fight over who gets the lion's share
of the ratings for anybody that chooses that option.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But now that I'd like to say that, i'd like
to see, Hey, different networks, we're gonna put it all
on the same screen from out Major League Baseball. Let's go,
But which audio do you play?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, just like in the NFL, you gotta scroll over
to the toph top of it. But look, you your
point's well taken. I mean, look, we look to live
sports as the be all to and all in terms
of grabbing eyeball. You know why the advertising rates are
still so immense for the playoffs for the tournament for
(06:07):
you know, college football. That's why they're salivating over the
playoffs to come. Revenue goes through the roof. Why we
have all these deals in place for each of these
conferences in football and basketball, the rate and the cost
of admission, and why some teams get left behind. He
no revenants of the PAC twelve and all of those
(06:28):
things come together. But with Major League Baseball, look, they
don't have to be good games. They just need to
be close for you to keep watching right or to
tune back in once the game that you focused on
has finished. And what we've have now is a nice
convergence of things whereby you've got some new blood mixed in,
(06:49):
so you're getting ratings and eyeballs from cities that have
been dormant a while. I'm certainly not taking shots at
my guy, Scott Shapiro and his twins, but we're watching
the Twins right. We've seen the Phillies, we've seen the Braves,
we've seen the Dodgers. Now we've got a bunch of
other new entrants coming into the picture, right, the Diamondbacks
with a lot of young talent. You know, you've got
(07:11):
a guy in Corbyn Carroll that they'll be able to
feature as much as they possibly can here going forward.
So it's good for the game and you're trying to
steal eyeballs. Did you work around the Thursday night game?
I wouldn't have as soon as I saw that it
was the Bears and Commanders. You know what, you guys
can have a day off between game two game, We'll
(07:31):
go this may be the one time we could eat
the NFL's lunch on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wait, what's the game?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, we can put something on there.
We'll be all good.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They changed the schedule. What happened, Well, we decided to
give them.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
A day off after the.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Second day of the Wildcard round. But legitimately it is
trying to figure out how do you maximize your audience,
how do you try to get folks excited? You and
I both as we've talked about a lot tonight, and
we did with John Paul Morosi earlier in the show.
It's like an extra day off might have been nice,
right to allow it to build get away for an
NFL Sunday, but you run into the problem of Thursday
(08:11):
night football and running into a college football and NFL
slate again as you get to the weekend where for
your wildcard round, maybe you were a little concerned. All right,
well these are these are not the Juggernauts, so maybe
there's not as much much interest. But you know the series,
you know, though they all end in two games, you
(08:31):
each had their storyline and things that flow out of it.
You're trying to photoshop Council into a Mets uniform as
we speak. You may have heard that customer. I don't
have to already, I don't have to try too hard.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There literally is Ai Craig Council managing the Mets already
on social media?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I will say, I will ask you here's here's a
fail for us with John Paul Morosi, though earlier you
could ask him just explicitly, Hey, I was thinking of
getting a Council jersey made. What number is he gonna
wear with the Mets.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Exit outbout a Fresca exit swollen Dome. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live from the tirerech dot Com Studios.
All right, so let's sometimes you don't realize you're in
on the ground floor of what is next in sports.
And that's what's next in sports is everybody's gonna throw
us quantity and it works. Now, let's do this right,
we had, we saw the teams winning, and we were
(09:24):
going into the next round of the playoffs that all
begin on Saturday. So I'm gonna ask you this, all right,
We asked John Paul Morosi. He said that he thinks
the Phillies are the team that has the best chance
to pull an upset in the next round of the playoffs.
I disagree the Braves. The Braves are this is a
different Braves team than we've seen, and it's it's the
(09:46):
best Braves team, even better than the team that won
the World Series. Can remember they didn't have Ronald Lacuna
when they won the World Series and the guy was
forty and seventy this year. But if I'm gonna say,
if I'm gonna give you an upset for this round
in the playoffs, I gonna go. And this is not
to curry favor with our manager, Scot Shapiro, but I'm
gonna go twins over the Astros. Why the Astros didn't
(10:09):
have a great year, and certainly you can say, well
the team that won the World Series, Nah, but they struggled.
It came down to the final week, final days of
the regular season for them to get in the playoffs. Right,
that Al West was insane with Hey, the Mariners could
could win the division or miss entirely. Same thing with
the Astros, same thing with the Rangers. Now the last
week the Astro show, Listen, We're the Astros were able
(10:30):
to win. We won the games we had to. But
this is a ninety win Astros team. This is not
a dominant Astros team. And the Twins looked really good
these first these last two games. They hit a lot
of home runs, right, you know they they don't. They
don't have somebody that's getting hitting like forty home runs,
but their entire team they hit home runs up and
down the lineup. Right. My only concern is that they
(10:52):
just got two great games from Lopezan Gray, Right, they
were both fantastic. Yes, you needed them to these games.
Now you start this series on Saturday, Boy, I'd think
long and hard about bringing these guys back on three
days rest to pitch Game one in Game two, because
I know you think well, if we just get a split,
we go home. Yeah, but if you don't get to split,
(11:14):
the series is over. You're down two Zip. I'd really
think long and hard about, Hey, they pitched really well.
Lopez only pitched five innings last night. I think long
and hard about saying, yeah, let's do that. They've been
pitching great, these guys are terrific. Let's go with Pablo
Lopez and Sunny Gray game one in game two, and
let's see what happens. They're hot, we're hot, we're confident.
Let's go forward. Let's strike while the iron's hot. On that,
(11:36):
I realize it's an all or nothing type moment, because
if you lose it, it's like, Okay, now our two
best pitchers were down to Zip without them, but you
gotta pitch at some point. You got to try to
win the series, and you don't want to go back
to Minnesota saying well, now we're down twos. Well, now
we have our guys. Well, now if you split those
two games, doesn't matter. Series over, you're down three to one.
So I'd really think that's the one thing I would say, is, boy,
I think a lot about three days rest for those guys.
(11:58):
I really would.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm looking at the other al series. The Diamondbacks
could be interesting. I mean, obviously familiarity with the Dodds
Dodgers forced straight year that they're facing a team from
the NL West in the divisional round, which is kind
of odd because remember one long ago they really wanted
to avoid all of that stuff at the playoffs out
It's like, hey, you know, whatever happens happens. I mean,
(12:20):
you're getting your cannibalization of your NL East teams. It's
like your greatest fantasy. Only one of you can remain,
and maybe it'll be Bieber Harper, your favorite guy when
it's all said done. But looking at Texas and Baltimore again,
going back to the youth side of things. For Baltimore,
I like it. I liked the phraseology of the cauldron
(12:43):
of the AL East as JP. I mean that would
mean that you really, I know the Yankees finished above
five hundred, but did they ever feel like they were
threatening for anything?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
No, No, they were lucky to fin I still can't
believe they finished. It's amazing, Nila and they finished five.
Instead of the narrative for the Yankees being ah, we
were talking, should be dude, with this team. Did you
see what happened? We finished five hundred. Man, maybe that's
what I would do if I was Aaron Boone. Hey,
don't get mad at me, look at look at how
we fit. This team was awful and we still finished
five hundred. I'm ready for next season.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, I think for me, I'm looking at that that
Texas and Baltimore series not so much youth, is that
you do have a fairly relentless lineup for Texas to
get after it. And I'm wondering if Baltimore's pitching holds
in the series, not that the young guns there, and
I know there's been a lot of jokes made about
(13:33):
how they're cloning guys. When you add a few more
dudes from the minor league to that photo array, it
really is kind of scary. Smith. I'll have to send
that to you. Like that same haircut, you know, long
hair flowing and whatever I mean. And they're exciting to watch,
and my friends in Baltimore now hate me. But just
wondering if that isn't potentially where where we see an
(13:57):
up update and upset coming out. Obviously, losing Bautista is
a big deal in the back of that pen so
you get into the later innings. Guy who was nails
for you with a one four eighty ra a one
hundred and ten strikeouts, He ain't there exit.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
How about a Fresca exit, swollen dopes. There we go.
There's our pick for upset. Look, I'd love to be
able to pick the Diamondbacks an upset, but I really
can't see the Dodgers losing this round. I can't see
suddenly the Diamondbacks are world beaters, you know. Look, I
just like if you look at the grid right but
it's hard, man, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well just looking at the grid right now. And you
got all the TBAs for pitching except Kershaw.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody else TVA did Kershaw. He's been
written into Game one probably since early June. Oh no, sorry,
when he came as soon as he came back from
injury and he pitched his first game. Okay, yeah, Game
one Clayton Kershaw. Really, I mean what they didn't they
announced Bobby Miller's Game two like a month and a
half ago. Seriously, I mean they did that. Yeah, he's
gonna pitch, Say wait, really, yeah, second game of the
(14:59):
divisions that we're in gonna pit a second game. It's okay,
sow's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Let's get it.
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hate Taylor Swift, today was your day. Wait, what guess
If you hate Taylor Swift, today was your day. Today
(16:35):
was the day. The Taylor Swift NFL backlash came into
full focus, with the NFL putting out a statement defending
themselves in the wake of the backlash. If I don't
like seeing Taylor Swift everywhere on my TV, which is
just the most insane amount of backlash, but still it's there.
Taylor Swift, who's been dating Travis Kelcey allegedly.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Please hanging out the NFL games allegedly unless it was
a body double and it wasn't really hurt with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now I just open up a can of worms entirely.
Now she was really there.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It was all a hologram the whole time.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Maybe it was there, Maybe it wasn't. Maybe, but you've
seen a lot of her, whether it was cutting away
to her in the stands at the game, whether it
was commercials about her tour, whether it was watching people
talk about them on television or hearing about the Travis
Kelcey and Jason Kelsey podcast. It's been a lot of
tailor Swift and there's been backlash, mainly on social media,
(17:34):
which is ridiculous. Where the NFL tried to defend its
recent coverage of Taylor Swift. The NFL putting out a
statement on Wednesday saying, look, we change our bios and
profile imagery on our official Twitter account based on what's
happening in and around our games, which is why they
put hey Chiefs two and oh since the NFL became
Swifties on their Twitter account. It got a lot of criticism,
(17:57):
So the NFL to take that down.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Bad look. Your owner even leaned into Swift.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, yeah, it's a bad look because I'm going boy,
why was that holding call on Sauce Gardener? Was it
because Hey, the NFL's Taylor Swift fans, So the NFL
had to put that out In the statement, they also
said that, look, we've we leaned into this in real time.
It's an intersection of sports and entertainment, and we've seen
a lot of positivity about this and the but the
vast majority of our content has remained focused on the game,
(18:26):
are players and variety of other initiatives. So this is
the NFL's how to defend their coverage of Taylor Swift,
which makes me go crazy. Anytime there's a knee jerk
reaction because people decide to hate something for no good reason,
you gotta just ignore it. Right. There's certain criticisms, Okay,
you gotta step up, you gotta say something here, But
the only people that are hating on Taylor Swift's coverage
(18:49):
are because they're looking for something to hate. We are
too ready to hate in this in this country, and
we have been for a long time. Right. Everything gets
us upset, whether it's driving or politic sir or Inflation's
always that we're ready to hate way earlier people wake
up in the morning. I want to hate something. Here's
Taylor Swift at a football game. I hate it? Why
(19:09):
because I do? Why do you hate it? Because they
keep showing her too much? So wait, they're not showing
the game. No, no, no, They're showing everything in the game.
They're just cutting away to her too much in the stands. Okay,
well they got to cut away to something after a game?
They are they not? Did you miss a touchdown because
they showed Taylor Swift? Well? No, okay, did they stop
part of the game from being played because Taylor Swift
was at the game?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Did they stop a game early in the fourth quarter
because Taylor Swift had to leave and they had to
make sure it was safe for No? No, no, So
what are you mad about? I just don't like Taylor Swift.
This makes no sense. The NFL should have just said,
suck it. This is something fun that everybody is coming
around to and you can enjoy it. They're showing her
at the games because she's dating Travis Kelsey. It's no
(19:50):
different than showing anybody else any other stars. They show
cutaways of stars and games all the time. Are they
showing Taylor Swift a lot? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Because Taylor Swift is that's the biggest female pop star
in the world, in the world, and she's more popular
than the NFL as you have seen because she's taken
over the NFL. People that hate seeing her don't have
a good reason. There's no reason to not like her.
There's no reason to not like seeing her. You're not
missing anything of the game. You're not getting any less
(20:20):
coverage of the game than you are before. Nothing is
different other than instead of looking at a fan eating
nachos in a number sixty eight jersey, you're getting Taylor Swift,
maybe hanging out with Blake Lively, maybe Ryan Reynolds, maybe
Hugh Jackman, although you wouldn't know it because they should
have said those people's names on Sunday Night. But nothing
has changed. Nothing's changing the coverage and how you can
enjoy the game. Oh, I just told why. There's no
(20:42):
good reason other than just I want to hate something
and people like that you don't deserve. You don't have
to explain it to people, right, you go buy moneyball.
When Jonah Hill tells Billy, Billy, these are difficult moves
to explain to people, and Billy says, then don't. Oh,
you don't need to explain why you're showing tailor's if
you were affecting the coverage. I get it. If something
(21:03):
changed and I'm turning on a game and I'm not
getting my normal NFL because if I'm missing a touchdown,
if Garrett Wilson catches a tight rope touchdown with his
left pinky finger and that's all he has the hole
onto the football and Chris Collins without to say, well,
you know, we're sorry we were showing Taylor Swift talking
to Blake Lively, but boy, what a catch by Garrett Wilson.
(21:23):
And let me tell you how great a quarterback Zach
Wilson is. Oh my goodness, Zach Wilson maybe the greatest quarterback.
If that happened, I get it. But there is nothing.
There is absolutely nothing, and there's no reason to hate
the NFL showing Taylor Swift or talking about her. This
is a fake controversy and people are just mad because
they want to be mad about something, and they've just
(21:45):
decided my ire this week on social media is gonna
be the NFL showing Taylor Swift and real no one
is turning off an NFL game because they keep showing
Taylor Swift if they show her one more time, I'm
not gonna watch really yep, click, no, I'll turn it
back on. I mean, none of this is happening. It's fake.
Outrage in the NFL decides, well, we should do something
we don't want. We don't want people to turn off.
(22:06):
We want people to say we're too Taylor Swift centric
into the NFL just panicked. And I wish you would
have just just let people that want to hate let
him say what they want to say, and just ignore
it because this is fake.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Because the hater's gonna hate hate, hate, hate hate.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
See you let me right to it. You should have
done the Burman. You should have done TJ. Haters gonna
hate hate a now you're bermingers. But and occasionally Frostburg
decides he needs that one. But it's the idea for me.
Is we talked about it a little earlier with commercials, right,
We see the same people in our commercial beds, whether
(22:44):
it's celebrity or you know whoever the pitch man or
woman is for a product that advertises heavily.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You see, you know your guy fireman ed? How many
fireman ed shots did we get on Sunday night? More
than one.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm sure if they should Fireman D one more time, No,
but I don't care about Fireman. That always part of
the game. Why he's got the game. He's just like
Taylor Swift, except he's on somebody's shoulders and he's waving
his helmet, going let's do the jets chan again. Let's
put let's spell four letters in a row again like
we've been doing for thirty years. But go back to
the last couple of years of Brady. What did we get?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Nothing but shots of Giselle bunchin all the time.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You and I would chuckle about.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It whenever they were on a Monday night or a
Thursday night window and it's like, all right, there she
is again, and you laugh about it because like, all right,
she's getting a lot of run.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Good, she's there.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
People are excited, and you know, any of the stuff saying, well,
the NBA's always done this stuff, like yeah, but they're
not the biggest star in the world that has now
been been included in your world. Right, here's the quick
run of twenty two people that are there. I mean
they did it for the Colorado Games the last month. Sure, right,
(23:56):
are never any cavalcade of stars that's suddenly decided to
show up. But it's the the idea that you lean
into a moment, and for the NFL to have to
issue a statement to decide that that was necessary, that's
weak sauce. Right, address some of the other problems that
your officials are having or whatever else is going on.
(24:18):
This one's not one to respond to. You're having fun
with it. I would have put up then, you know,
here's our latest tweet for those that are really mad.
Turning up in Tottenham with the British flag is the
current bio for the NFL on their Twitter account. By
the way, only thirty three point seven million followers on
x It's a lot of missed opportunity. Hence they need
(24:41):
more swift crossover and better tagging in this process. But
think about all the folks exposed to you know, your
your product, at least in some way via all the
social media avenues right, TikTok, Instagram, et cetera. It's just
a picture of her, it's still tagged. You know she
was at a football game. Why is she showing up
(25:03):
at football games? Here's some more exposure for Travis Kelsey,
who really got a lot of good run out of
all of this fun for sure. And the most look,
the loudest critics of this other than the anonymous chuckleheads
in the social media sphere are the yellers as I
like to call them in our industry. And look, they
a lot of them make seven figures and they're big
(25:24):
shots and they're popular people because they're on TV. But
most of them are there to make you believe that
they know what they're talking about. It is how loudly
can I scream about something? And where are people having
fun that I can go the other way? And this
is completely a everybody's having fun? Where can I go
the other way and go grab and hug the get
(25:47):
off my lawn guy that listens to me in city xyz.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well you know why that look? And there's been a
lot of guys in the national media too that have that.
That's what I mean, I hate, right, So you get
the hate on social media and then you get national
personalits going why they keep telling Talla Swift you know it?
First of all, you sound like you're a thousand years old.
And secondly, I'll pull the curtain backs. I'll tell you
exactly what people who are who are doing that ridiculous
(26:12):
rant are doing. They can't talk about Taylor Swift intelligently.
They can't make a point, they can't talk about her
popularity in the NFL, they can't talk about relationships. They
don't know what to say, so she don't have to do.
I'm very loudly just gonna say I hate it, and
they don't have a reason to hate it. They just
are going to say it because they can't talk intelligently
about it and they live click to click. So what
(26:34):
do I do if I yell and I rant that
I just don't like Tyala Swift. I don't want to
see it. Why do I gotta see it? Why do
not see it? It's ridiculous. But when you when you
shout yell about something like that, yeah, people are gonna
pay attention to that because all they're talking about. But
it's it's the most it's the most lowest common denominator
thing you can have, and that's all it is. I
don't have anything compelling to say about this because I'm
(26:56):
not really as well versed in things as I should be,
So that's what my take is gonna be. I hate it.
So in that way, it's kind of just an enhancement
of people who just want to hate things because I
want to hate Taylor Swift. Now you have people that
have to go on TV. We got to talk about
Taylor Swift. Well, I don't know where songs, I don't
know this. I just I hate it. I hate it.
Now I'm in an uncomfortable position of talking about something
(27:16):
that I don't know a lot about. So I hate it.
And that's how you get those takes on television, right,
That's how you get those takes out there, And that's
how this topic gains a little bit more oxygen when
it should have zero oxygen.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, folks get excitable and look, I get it, drink
references or force feeding song lyrics or whatever. I did
it tongue in cheek as you handed the baton my way,
but you know, I get it where maybe maybe you
could say it's a little much or a little forced
here and there, but overall, you've co mingled two of
(27:48):
the greatest brands going right now and those audiences and
just lean into it. All. Right, She's going back on
tour in like two and a half weeks, right the
eighteenth it starts.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
She just leave to go prep for tour. So I
think she's done going a game. She may be done, right,
I mean, that might be it, because I mean even
the Vikings this week were like, hey, if she wants
to come, that'd because it's over. Yeah, see it's not well.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
And then they issued another statement, our twins are still alive.
I mean, and look, if if the Vikings had won
this week, then they might have been even louder with
one of those Bart Simpson, I've chained together five hundred
megaphones so I could really get the word out, please
Taylor come to this game. But they got the victory.
(28:37):
But yeah, she's going back on tour. She's got a
few more US dates, and then the whole international part
of things starts to flow. So you know it was
going to be a short lived Hey you get to
come for a couple of weeks, hang out and be
quote kind of normal folk. Right. That shot at the
(28:58):
stadium on Sunday going in was the funniest.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Wow, it's so quiet. Look, I'm sorry Taylor Swift is
more popular than the NFL, but she is. I mean
she is. If Travis Kelsey shows up at a Taylor
Swift concert, now that people really care, by the way,
but pay attention, no big, but we don't even we
wouldn't even talk about that. But Taylor Swift in a
football game. Hey, it's she's got ninety five million Twitter followers.
(29:24):
The NFL's gotten thirty more.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, we did have fun with him that with the
fact that your tourist quarterback who wants everything to be
about him. Uh he he did go and spend a
lot of time watching the Taylor Swift Show. So we
did talk about that, but that was more keeping tabs
on his tourist y kind of things ahead of the season.
And always remember Travis Kelsey started it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You want to hate somebody, go hate try Legitimately, he
shot his shot.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We celebrated him shooting his shot. Everybody was like, oh,
you know, there's your alpha man shooting his shot. Good
for him. And look even the screamers were all excited
about that, right and then all of a sudden she
shows up. It's like, well she shouldn't have come, Like
that was a great pipe dream. Now she's here and
she's runing our fine, she's ruining the sanctity of the sport.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You go blame Kelsey, you want to blame somebody, it's
all his fault. You go blame him.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You started it, Kelsey started it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
This is all so fake and I wish the NFL
would just blow this off and just say we're gonna
do whatever the hell we want to. Taylor Swift come
into games. We're gonna show her games because we show
people at games, we cut away from action, we go
back to it. Nobody gets hurt, nobody misses NFL action. Right.
The way people are reacting to this in the NFL
is backing yup. It's like they said, hey, we have
to apologize for missing those three touchdowns on Sunday Night
(30:46):
Football that were scored in the second half because we
had to show Taylor Swift and whatever kind of na
shows she was eating. I mean, it's hey, sorry about that. Yeah, Hey, sorry,
we didn't show you the Sauce Gardener pats interference or
the Holy pedalty because we were showing Taylor Swift, who
was talking to Blake Lively and I'm sure they were
filming something for Wrexham. Sorry, you missed that. That's not happening.
It's all fake and you should just ignore those haters.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Now, what would have been funny is if Redel had
showed up playing eight welcome torecs. Shir oh heie watch
my show.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, look, ignore, you gotta ignore the haters. You just
have to ignore the haters.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
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Speaker 1 (31:33):
Taking you back to nineteen eighty seven. It's Madonna here
on Fox Sports Radio. Look at that and I hit
the post. Look at that? Look how good I am?
I can sell the post on light E's Le Bonita,
I can still do it, which translates as the pretty Island.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Just so you know, nicely done well. The Jason Smith.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Show with my best friend Mike Carmon live from the
Tirech dot Com Studios. You know, you go to them
all sometimes and you you're walking up and down. You're
going a.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Different nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, no, no, no, well, and it could be twenty
twenty three. It did this.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This is because there's a lot of empty storefronts in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No there are, but okay, but okay, so okay, imagine
yourself in a mole. All right, So you're at a
wall and you're walking. You're walking from north Stromac all
the way down to Sears or Sears to J. C.
Pennies or makes the Sears end to be nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You said, Jac Penny are they're still there.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Too, and a couple of paintings from Seears. So you
get down there and you walk by and you see
somebody at a kiosk and there's this helicopter toy that's
flying around and doing circles above, and you stop and
you see it and you go, oh, that's pretty cool.
I think boy'd be cool to fly one of those things.
And the guy at the kiosk is flying it up
and back around, and they say, oh, that'd be really cool.
(32:47):
And you watch it for a couple of minutes and
he brings it down for a land and he goes
up and he says, ah, here it is. It's only
twenty nine to ninety nine. And then you stop and
you go, ah, it was fun. Then you walk away.
You know what, that's something like that that sounds great
is really only fun for five minutes, Like, yeah, I'm
flying this helicopter. What are you gonna do? How long
are you gonna fly it for? I just watched it
fly for a couple minutes. It was kind of cool,
it landed. I'm not gonna buy it. I'm gonna keep
(33:08):
going because it's something that's fun for five minutes. James
Harden is now a guy who was fun for five minutes.
All Right, The big story today in the NBA. Oh,
hey James Harden? What what going on with James har Oh?
He's gonna be back with the seventy six ers now
after his two day absence. He still wants a trade.
James Harden is fun for five minutes because he's fun
(33:30):
to talk about for five minutes, and then the reality
sets in that if he plays for the seventy six Ers,
they're not a title favorite because the other teams in
the East got better and they weren't a title favorite
when he was on the team last year. If he
goes to the Clippers, are they gonna be a title favorite? Now?
They're not because you got better teams that got better.
James Harden at his best is a support player who
(33:53):
sucks the oxygen out of everything else going on with
the team. That's what He's still let the league in
assist last year, which is great. But he's a support player.
And the energy and the attention that you have to
spend on him, and the ball volume that he demands
with the ball in his hands is not worth it anymore.
(34:13):
And so the actual impact of James Harden on a
basketball court is so little now, but the image of
Harden as being a superstar is still there. Oh, James Harden, Yeah,
this is something. James Harden's fun for five minutes. Then
we're onto other things and other players that actually matter,
that are actually better, they actually do affect that the
title race and everything else that goes along with it.
(34:33):
He's fun for five minutes. Then you realize, oh, he's
no longer a difference maker that's going to bring a
team a championship, and then you move on. But right
now still a big name and a big headline. But
after five minute, after watching him fly around in a
helicopter for Comms, comes down for a landing, Yeah, okay,
then you move on, We're on to something else.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
On the plus side, he finally got a little bit
of his shot back after a couple of years where
it it was not good down at that forty rangey.
He's at least back up to forty four last year.
But to your point. Yeah, he can move the ball,
assists he's what double digit assists in five straight years?
(35:11):
I think it is and lead in the league. If
it's it's the question of when do you know? We
talk about it in the NFL all the time. When
do you know you're now with the number two receiver
as opposed to having been in the alpha?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Can you make that adjustment seamlessly? And nothing about James
Harden says that that can be the case.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And that's the hard part.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I would say this though, if he shows up with
the Clippers, he'll at least want to play every game.
I don't know, Lilly, he may not play well.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
But yeah, but is he good or is he gonna
find a way after a little while to say all
this sucks too? Just like he got how long? Because
it comes from there.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Because he only had fifty eight games this last year.
But there's so much infighting. I mean, I want a
documentary about the season that was for Philadelphia this last year.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with I that'll go, oh,
but it's gonna be great and then oh, now James
Harden is not happy and he wants to go someplace else.
That's how it's gonna go. That's James Harden. Man. I'm
telling you that's more.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Fun for us though. But he's got to stay on
one of these teams where they're they're relevant even if
he isn't, because the chaos that ensues. I mean, look
today I was enraptured watching Ben Simmons hit ten straight
free throws in practice.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Could you believe that? Did you really just bring Ben Simmons?
You really just said Ben Simmons? Yeah, I did, Ben Simmons.
Look what I did. You wanted chaos? You brought up
chaos earlier. I didn't say it was okay to bring
up Ben Simmons. Come on, man, I mean that's he's
like what you.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Brought up James Harden and open the door?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
What no, No, No, He's like I harked it in.
He's like James Harden one point oh right? When when
is it? When it's less right? It's one point oh right.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He's James Harden one point oh point one.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Point one. Fresca exits swollen down The Jason Smith Show
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