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Mike Harmon and Bernie Fratto discuss Deion Sanders recent comments about Colorado not being an ATM for his players.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome in. It
is a Wednesday night. It is traffic night, it is
stand in line at a grocery store night. It is
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of a big holiday holiday holiday extravaganza Thanksgiving Eve, plenty
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(01:10):
on the weekends. It is the host of the Bernie
Pratto Show, The man himself from Las Vegas. It is
Bernie prattle, Bernie, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Welcome in on a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Billy Ray Valentine Capricorn. Billy Ray Valentine Capricorn.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
I see Mike consolely appropriate that I invoked at a
reference tonight, because after all, I am trading places with Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
There you go, say, he's done it already, He's taken
us back into the mid eighties. That is actually going
to be part of a bit later on as to
the favorite non Christmas Christmas movies. But you've always already
ruined the bit. It took you two minutes, Bernie, it's it.
I just should pack up and go home. As we
get rolling here on a Fox Sports Radio Wednesday night.

(01:54):
That was good, though. Anytime you can reference trading places,
I think people should go back because it is the
sixty fifth day of Jamie Lee Curtis tonight. So there
you go, adding a little bit of extra value as
we go. We've got plenty of NBA. We've got Pop
getting after his audience, Bernie, like they're a bunch of
toddlers at the back of a kindergarten class who can't

(02:14):
sit still. So we'll talk about his road. Because everybody
thought it was going to be easy with Victor webbin
Yama showing up, as we're seeing not so fast. Lakers
play a little bit more tonight, bet, second night of
a back to back. Everybody's ready. Everybody's ready to go.
With Lebron James now surpassing thirty nine thousand career points

(02:35):
and they're four and zero in the all important inn
season tournament. Buddy, you know the one that if you
ask every player, the only thing they know is that
if they win it, they get five hundred K. How
it works, what the structure is when those games actually happen.
Other than looking at those god awful courts, they have
no clue.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Well, it's all over December ninth, Mike, and then we
can all go back to our normal lives.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
But I have a question for you.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Should the Lakers win the coveted NBA Cup, Because I mean,
there's the Stanley Cup, there's the World Series, there's the
Nobel Peace Prize, and then there's.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The NBA Cup. Which would you rather have?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
My question to you is do they hang a banner
at Staples Crypto Center.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't think you get a banner but everybody's gonna
go to celebrate with that five hundred thousand dollars check
and then Lebron and ad can take a month off.
Say we did your stupid tournament. Now we're on load
management for soreneesh stupid tournament.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
If you checked in without Adam Silver on that one,
does he know how you feel?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I've been pretty clear about it, you know, And I think.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's my question is does Adam Silver know how you feel?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I really don't care if Adam Silver knows how how
I feel. Bernie, I don't have a direct find to them, Hyle.
If he does, then that's great. I just come back
to the point of if you have a number of
players who when they get to the podium and they
ask about the process, they go it's a game on
a Friday night, I lace them up and I go play,

(04:02):
and then once they're eliminated, someone points it out. It's like, oh, wait,
we lost out on some potential money. But otherwise it's
a way to try to bruce up a regular season game.
And I guess to some degree there's some percentage of
people outside and casuals that are a little bit excitable
about the regular season because maybe you get a bigger

(04:23):
effort because there is the incentive of the extra check.
But on the whole, I think it's gone over like
a lead balloon in terms of trying to hype it,
trying to get people excited about it. And then you
still have to keep explaining all right, group play and
everything else, because translating it from the soccer world hasn't
been quite as easy as perhaps they wanted it to

(04:47):
go right in terms of group and because you're still
playing regular season games in between all this, and they
count except for when you actually get to the title game.
Suddenly my stats and everything don't count. What I probably
ball out to win that check and the coveted cup.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, I get it. I read the memo, and far
be it from me to defend this tournament. It's going
over about as big as you know, the the trash
compactor that turns twenty pounds pounds of trash into twenty
pounds of trash. But here's the thing you're talking about it, Mike,
The NBA is usually not talked about a whole hell
of a lot in November. As a matter of fact,

(05:26):
a lot of folks feel that the de facto beginning
of the NBA season is really around Christmas, and now
the NFL is starting to poach that. So Adam Silver's
theory and I couldn't care less, was that how can
we create some possible buzz in November when we're heading.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Toward the college football playoff?

Speaker 5 (05:45):
The NBA checked that the NFL is very much heading
toward you know there, I guess March toward the playoffs
and who's going to be in and who's not going
to be in the games are that much more significant.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
And then you've got the NHL in.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Full swing, and of course college basketball now starting and
the hot stoven baseball. You just had the Winter meetings
in a big announcement with the A's. I think Adam
Silver's intention was to create some busts for the NBA.
So irrespective of whether or not people like it or
don't like it or don't understand it, you're talking about it.
And the opposite of hate is not love, it's indifferent.

(06:24):
So it aroused some kind of emotion in you and
thousands of other people that we are leading our show
with the NBA tournament.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, I was more leading the show with the NBA
because we have the Warriors and the Lakers getting ready
to tip off, and the show is now and in
the present, and we talk about everything that goes on.
We don't shy away from the NBA until December twenty fifth,
as many might do, or college football, but there's some

(06:53):
good stories, and most of it coming out of coaches
complaining about nil and begging people for money more than
anything else, which we'll get to as the show goes on. Well,
because the stuff actually on the field, man, you know,
there's a lot of shrug in. We'll see some teams
rise or fall this weekend and we move on, right.

(07:15):
You know, college football still very much, at least to
my thinking, more regionalized than anything with When we look
at the NBA, we got superstars playing, and I think
that's the one thing you celebrate from this early part
of the season. Whatever memo went across the desk, and no,

(07:35):
I don't think it's the tournament, but everybody's at least
out and playing and oftentimes actually showing up on the
second nights of back to backs. So whatever has gone down,
whatever's transpired behind the scenes, Adam Silver's at least got
his stars out, which is a good thing for the
league as a whole. As we certainly have chronicled ad

(07:56):
nauseum everything going on with the National Football League and
the number of quarterbacks and star players that have fallen
to the wayside, the NBA runs the risk of the same.
As much as you want to create new stars, it
takes some time for those to just date and for
people to embrace them, right the old repetition of things
and seeing them and getting them into those nationally trafficked

(08:20):
rotations or making all the highlight halftime shows all about them.
Until you get to that point, you know, those guys
will still wallow in relative anonymity based on the fact
that we don't get the run up in college like
we once did of multiple years of a guy before
he's in the NBA, and likewise, you know, we know it.

(08:41):
You play the hits when it comes down to television programming, right,
bidding for games and deciding what goes on your national schedule.
It's a function more of all right, we've got the Warriors,
who do they happen to be playing on a Wednesday night?
More so than we want to go and find the
next guy.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, if you're scoring at home, So Dowley noted I'm
just happy to be here. I mean, it's not like
there's the greatest rivalry in college football. Saturday that started
out as a Land war over Toledo, tripleheader Thursday in
the NFL. Fairly significant game games, all of them. And
then we've even got a Black Friday game that was
intended for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
And this is America. This is America. You can be
one and third.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
You can throw one touchdown in thirteen interceptions in Connecticut
and find yourself starting for the New York Jets.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
This is America. And on Thanksgiving you got to be
thankful for that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, it is a beautiful part of where the NFL is,
I guess, you know, selling hope. You know, we chronicled
the player for Davidson, who put his announcement out for
the NFL Draft, even though he's been a backup only
playing spot duty due to injuries and illnesses and whatever.
But you know the same idea. You know, you got
to live the dream. And for many folks, you know,

(09:53):
this is one of those times of year where you
get to pause, take stock of the good, the bad,
the ugly in your life, maybe your rally and around family.
Maybe it's a fully gluttonous kind of holiday, and I
hope it is. I hope your plate is full and
the tables full of friends, family, et cetera, wherever you
are on the highways and byways the journeys of the lifetime.

(10:14):
But yeah, certainly we've got a full slate of NFL action,
and with a four hour show, plenty of time to
go down those those highways with everybody else that's sitting
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Robin Chris as I was sitting in the bullpen watching
a little bit of the college buckets and NBA action,
a little bit of lamentation, you know, the handwringing. Maybe
not as problematic this year when the Detroit Lions are

(11:01):
on the schedule and heading off our Thanksgiving Day game,
but I'll be the first to say this. I think
in the national media, I think I've gone with the
Detroit Lions like so many did with the Warriors. They're
changing the game. They're changing the game. I hate how
they changed the game. I've had about enough of the
Lions love fest through the first twelve weeks of the

(11:21):
season that started going back to last year.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, they're sixteen to four in their last twenty games,
and they've earned what they've done. Now, they haven't accomplished
it a yet. They won one playoff game since nineteen
fifty seven. We all know that, so this will be
the year that they'll get to the playoffs. They should
have at least one home game, and ultimately their season
will be judged based on how they do in the postseason.

(11:44):
We all know that, and people are waiting for him
to fall. I mean, it's like the guy who predicts
it's going to rain every day and then finally, after
seven hundred and twelve days, it rains and he says, see,
I told you it's going to rain. But I will
tell you this. I love the Lions Thanksgiving tradition. It's
been there since nineteen thirty four, or with their owner
George Richards, who was a first year owner who was
a marketing genius, had bad attendants and a bad team,

(12:06):
and decided to play a game on Thanksgiving. He cut
a deal with ninety four NBC radio stations across the country.
They had to turn people away. The game was sold out,
and the tradition was born, and all the way up
to the years I covered the team, and I covered
fourteen of these games, and I loved every minute of it.
People were clamoring, why can't we have someone else besides
the Lions? When on else wanted to believe it or not,

(12:27):
it's a Thursday game. I thought Thursday games weren't anethema.
This just then Thanksgiving is a Thursday game. Other teams
didn't want to except for Lamar Hunt, and then of
course the Cowboys started doing it in the sixties. But
the reality of it is to your point, Now it's
a little bit more interesting because the Lions are eight
and two, and they have designs and not only winning
the division, possibly get in the overall number one seed. Well,

(12:48):
it's not too far ahead of ourselves, but now they're legitimate.
So I don't know who's having a love fest. I
hear more comments like from what you're saying versus people
rallying around this team unless you live inside of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
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(13:21):
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we just get started. But I mentioned the nil saltiness. Well,
Dion Sanders is part of it. Kind of funny, isn't it.
We'll talk about that coming up next.

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Speaker 2 (14:33):
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NBA full on. We've got three NFL games tomorrow, but Bernie.

(14:56):
College football starting to come down to the end of
the regular season, Rivalry weekend Michigan Ohio State. All the
drama still floating around that one. Jim Harbaugh running as
many meetings and opportunities to tell you about his mother's
bathing suit. It's a nice one liner. But all of
that rolls through, and we also have that part of

(15:18):
the year where recruiting classes and we're looking at rankings.
We're already doing the look ahead, just like we're doing
with the NFL and jockeying for position for draft order
and all that. But we were hearing the coaches now
this week was a lot about nil, all about transfers,
all about the extras off the field, and certainly for Colorado,

(15:41):
the on field play. Well, September is a long time
ago in terms of the greatness and all the expectations
and hope, just like here in Los Angeles with USC
that's long been established as as a failure in terms
of your overall season for Caleb Williams and what was
supposed to be the huge Heisman run up second run,

(16:03):
I should say, as he put up some big numbers,
but the defense failed and overall you've got five losses,
you lose the UCLA. But these guys are in commercials
every time I turn around. Deon Sanders, well, when he speaks,
he's like the old E. F. Hutton ads, right, you're
gonna listen, and while he started talking about Colorado and
what he projects for the future.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
We're not a ATM. That's not gonna happen here.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
If you come to Colorado to play football for me
and the Colorado Buffalo's because you really want to play
football and receive a wonderful education, and all the business
stuff is going to be handled on the back end
if that's the case. But we are not an ATM.
You're not coming here to get rich unless you really
come here with a plan to go to the NFL
and get your degree, not to come here and be

(16:50):
money bag. Yo.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Now, it's a great theory. Even though his team was
built on transfers this year, Bernie, and obviously we saw
the issues in terms of building infrastructure still, like so
many teams at every level at this point when you
talk about offensive and defensive line depth and trying to
ramp up a program, and overall it's a success based
on where they were where they're coming. Last I saw

(17:12):
their recruiting class for this coming year is rank seventieth,
which is actually worse than anything they'd done I think
in a decade plus in terms of national rankings. But
the only person people that he can control are his
sons in terms of the idea of hey, you're going
to come here and it's just business, et cetera. The
way this works anymore is you want to get the

(17:34):
best players, and after a year, if they want to leave,
what are you going to do? How many guys are
you going to deny the ability to go and transfer?
And how quickly would that torpedo anything going on in
your program. You already faced the scrutiny when you had
that opening little practice meeting session that went viral by saying, hey,

(17:55):
most of you guys aren't going to be here, get
in the portal, get out. I mean, you're banking on
that building your roster and your program. But at the
same point saying, hey, hey, don't think this is just,
you know, a cash flow kind of situation. But that's
exactly what he's created.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, timing is everything. And of course, ironically, his son
Shudor just yesterday inks another million dollar deal with Smoothie King,
So his valuation nil dollar wise, is now four point
one million. You just nailed it. Colorado's incoming class at
twenty twenty four ranks seventy in the country, and by
the way, not for nothing. Unless Colorado beats Utah at

(18:35):
Utah Saturday morning, they'll finish one and eight in Pac
twelve play. In twenty twenty two, Colorado finished one and
eight in Pac twelve play talk amongst yourselves. Then, just
this last week, Dion lost two prize recruits, a four
star receiver who decommitted and an offensive lineman, a big

(18:57):
time offensive lineman from Missouri who just to flip his
commitment to Missouri. And what does Dion say, quote, a
kid isn't even faithful to his girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
You think he's going to be faithful to a school. Now, look,
I like that.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
You gave him like a mafioso kind of toned to
the voice there.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
That was good.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Well, thank you, thank you very much. Yeah, I have
no thespian I will tell you that. But I'll say this.
I like Dion. I'll never bash Dion. I'm a fan,
but I will always maintain my objectivity because the irony
here is he basically turned over the school's entire roster
historic fashion. Not only was he not one of the
players who are already in the system, but he learned

(19:37):
a lot of players away from other schools around the country. Now,
let shoes on the other foot, and maybe Colorado's not
the panacea. And Dion looks upset when you invoke that aighteen,
and that's not going to happen here.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's happening for your son. Did you miss that?

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Oh? By the way, I will give Dion some credit.
I thought the highlight of the week is he manned
up and admitted he realized that that Mount Rushmore is
not in southern California, it's in South Dakota. And I
give him top credit for not trying to b s
his way out of that one, like Harbor or somebody
would have done. So here you go, they're five and seven,

(20:13):
They're headed to Salt Lake City. This isn't finishing the
way they wanted him to. You give him a mulligan
for this year because I'll tell you what, you started
out with an A Listers on the sidelines, and you
ended up with Jesse Smolett. Let's see where they end
up next year. I'll give him a hall pass. But
I got to tell you, Mike Deon's rant behind the
podium today falls in dead fears for me.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You're probably gonna have to start explaining who Jesse's, what
that is for folks, you've got it.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
I mean, I know I know his sister, Journey. She's
a pretty good, well connected in Chicago. You might have
even been a before, have you know, Maybe you're possible.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
No, I've never met him, but just you know, it's
one of those Hey, let's remember who this guy was,
because I hadn't heard the name in a while. So
that was a good poll. Yeah, his sister was in
the Harley Quinn movie. Yes, yeah, so there you go,
the emancipation and whatever else the long title that was.
But yeah, the d commits. It's kind of funny that

(21:11):
he invokes, you know, a little lamentation on that. It's like,
all right, the program, you know again, eventually the player
starts to talk too, right, and and you might be
positive most of the time, I would guess he runs
a pretty strict program, which is good, right, we need
some structure in amidst all the chaos. But you still

(21:32):
have to look in the mirror and recognize that you know, you,
you know the old you started it right. If you're
fighting with a sibling or one of your friends, you know,
on the basketball court and they a little push it
and shove and starts to escalize like no, no, no, you
had the first hit, and with Deon Sanders, it's like,
you know, it doesn't feel so good. On the other side, man,

(21:53):
it stings because now you've got people de committing. That
means they don't want the Dion brand. Can't have that,
can Mike?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Think about what you just said.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's a really good stat I haven't heard anybody else
say there's seventieth in the country. Their class ranks seventieth
in the country. And let's give that just a little
bit of context. I think it's fair to say Colorado
State is their rival in state school that would That
was evidenced by that overtime game they had a few
weeks back.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
It was very well, hard fought. It was like a
playoff game.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Colorado State's class ranks sixty seventh, three spots better than Dion.
That looks like an odd optic to me. And then
you have to start to ask yourself why and think
about what you just said. In a sense, in a sense,
they're rejecting Dion.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I think to just expand one quick thing, given
you know Dion and his love of the camera, and
I don't fault of look, i'd capitalize on all that too, right, commercials, television, whatever,
there's still a lot of questions of how long he
is for Colorado. So if you're a recruit and you're

(23:02):
pondering the next three to five years of your life,
as much as you might have some hope for you know,
riches and thinking the transfer portal becomes part of your history,
you're also going there. If you're going to Colorado, you're
going there for Dion Sanders.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
And if all of.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
If any, there's smoke to any of the rumors, right,
because he's been connected to how many jobs tangentially and
folks wishing it into existence in a lot of cases,
but let's call what it is. There's just a lot
of expectation that once his kids are gone, that he
may not have the love of Colorado. And all of
a sudden what happens.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Heavy is the head who wears the crown, And he
put the crown out himself and looked.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Just like Lebron.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
So there I walked, froze me. You froze my test
curveball right just then. And now, my god, Clayton, right there,
I was sitting dead red and I might as well
just put my tail look Dion's legacy secure. The man
played in the World Series, in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
He could.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
I've always liked the guy. Even when he was drafted
back in nineteen eighty nine. He had it going, he said,
I'm so glad I wasn't drafted by Detroit. Of course,
Barry Sanders was drafted ahead of him, he said, because
if they had a signed me, I'd ask for so
much money they had to put me on lay away.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Now that's thirty four years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Good line.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
It was a great line. That it still is.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
But the bottom line now is nineteen weeks ago or whatever,
all we heard was we coming, we coming. Now you're
hearing players we leaving. So the bottom line is I
don't mean to go Red Sandford and you know, Fred
Fox there, Fred Sandford.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
You know, come in and get you easy and along.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
On the short of it is this, the balloom is
off the rose and right now as he stands, right now,
the Emperor has no clothes. I'm gonna get him a
hall pass. Let's see what Colorado does next year. But
I will tell you I guarantee their circle and everybody schedule.
They're all looking at each other, going we coming.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, Sure, as Hell exceeded expectation off the jump, and
then the past twelve season became what it did. Look
it's a war of attrition, as we know in depth.
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the iHeartRadio app for everybody on your list. He's Bernie Pratto.
Now let's turn it over to our guy, Martin Weiss
in with us tonight for what's trending in our sporting universe?

Speaker 8 (26:23):
What's up about its trending?

Speaker 9 (26:24):
I gotta I gotta give it to Vernie that justse
Smallette was a great line.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
That was great. I'm looking around the studio.

Speaker 9 (26:30):
Everybody's blinking twice like I don't get it, justy' smallett.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, no, no, no, I remember it. It just seemed
like it was a little like I think it might
be enough in the past that maybe folks forgot the circumstance.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
You know, we've all been there justseway three in the
morning when it's twenty two below.

Speaker 9 (26:47):
You know, sometimes you just say, if you had a
bad night, whine, not stay to fake ha crime.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, it's good press until it's not right.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
All right, Let's get to the NBA.

Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yeah, no notes about hate crimes here today, But you know,
Jeor Popovich did say san Antonio fans, please stop bluing
Kawhi Leonard. We have more class than that in a
game that they lost. I'll have that score just a moment.
With discord about to wind up. Twenty seconds left in
the fourth right here, Kings and the Pelicans. Pelicans with
a fifteen point lead. Brandon Ingram just had a dunk
to go ahead. Extend that lead to five. Now two

(27:22):
more games in progress, currently four to twenty one left
in the first quarter. Warriors twenty three, Sons seventeen. Klay
Thompson with eleven early in the first quarter. End to
the first quarter. Utah and Portland the Trailblazers lead by eleven, thirty.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
Two to twenty one.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
Earlier today, the Hornets beat the Wizards one seventeen to
one fourteen.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Kyle Kuzma had twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (27:41):
Lonzo ball thir I'm sorry, LaMelo ball thirty four the
final for the Nuggets in the Magic Magic go ahead
and beat the Nuggets by five one twenty four to
one nineteen.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
Hawks over the Nets in overtime.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
Hawks won forty seven one forty five Celtics. This game
was a laugher until the fourth quarter, when Bucks scored
thirty seven four quarter points to make it close one
to nineteen, though the Celtics win over Milwaukee won sixteen
heat and the Cavaliers Heat beat them by just about
thirty one twenty nine to ninety six.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Patrits and the Raptors. Raptors won thirty one I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (28:13):
Raptors won thirty two over the Pagers one thirty one
Rockets and the Grizzlies. Jalen Green had thirty four as
they go ahead and beat Memphis, who only has three
wins on the year, one eleven to ninety one. Timberwolves
continue their hot streak. They're seven to zero at home.
They continued that tonight one twelve to ninety nine over
the seventy six ers. High score for Philly Paul Reid

(28:36):
ten points, nine rebounds, Good for you, Paul, final score
Thunder and the Bulls Thunder win by one sixteen to
one oh two. And finally the aforementioned Clippers Spurs game.
Kawhi Leonard had twenty six points somehow was able to
withstand all the booze victor winn Benyama twenty two and
fifteen with three blocks in a losing effort as the

(28:56):
Clippers win one nineteen to one oh two.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
But Bernie, they didn't cover they didn't cover the Clippers.
There you go back to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
The most important part of it all, as we know,
the EBB and flow, the we look, we did the
countdown to kick off Reid to get things going. Stay
with us here, Mart because he referenced the Greg Popovich
and it really really we were used to coaches grabbing
a microphone to yell at people, you know, yell at
student sections. Right, we've seen that college used to have

(29:24):
that storm in the co court. Mike Krzyzewsky, famous for
screaming at everybody every chance he got our guy, UCLA
Dodger Frank on Twitter immediately jumped onto the old Sam
White video of screaming about and his fans in the
Battle for Ohio. But here's Greg Popovich as he decided,

(29:44):
well he did to take matters into his own hands.

Speaker 9 (29:46):
Glide were eight points tonight, three or five from the floor.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
It is only three.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Excuse me for a second.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Pops on the mic and let these guys plays on
all the last It's not who we are a knock
off the board. I'm telling the fans to lay off
Kawhi Leonard. But that's not San Antonio.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's not who we are, Martin. We think.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
It's exactly who That's exactly who fans are and what
fans should be doing.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Now.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
If they were throwing things on the court, that's another
thing entirely.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
But I can't stand this whole. If Derek Jeter was
the first.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
That I can remember, I'm sure Bernie would have a
list of like five guys who happened pre nineteen eighty
for this for But no, Derek Jeter was the first
guy I remember who got like different cities were supposed
to pay him respect and.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
He was going along his his farewell tour. What is that?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
No, no, no, no, the only the only other guy
I can recall, Bernie. You know, Kareem abdul Jabbar when
Billy Crystal threw him out and forget Paris. Let me
be the first.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
I hated that movie.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah, I think you that is part of being a
fan is booing and cheering. You can boo your own team,
you cheer for your own team. You should probably almost
always boo the opponent. And in left eye myth that
Kawhi Leonard hasn't played for the Spurs, says pre pandemic.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well that's the other thing, Bernie. I think it's kind
of cool that they still harbor great resentment, residual hatred
for the way Kawhi Leonard left basically said, you know,
my doctors have your their thoughts, your doctors have yours.
Oh yeah, I want to leave. So yeah, they hire
her some bitterness. It's good to see that. You know,
hate can still jet state like that, and good.

Speaker 9 (31:31):
Old fashioned hate too, not the new fangle stuff we're
seeing these days.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Well, at least no one ran onto the quarter we're throwing,
you know, sharp objects or anything. I find it ironic
that it's Greg Popovich, the ultimate curmudgeon. I mean, look
at the guy. Just look at his face. He always looks,
and he's got that look on his face. I could
just melt bad flatulence with twenty four to seven. The
bottom line is this, it's grandstanding now. At least when
Sam Witch did it in Cincinnati years ago, he said,

(31:59):
stop doing that. This is in Cleveland, at Cincinnati, he
took a shot at another city.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I actually think he meant it. No, that was class
list too.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
But Papovich, this seems so contrived, so pre programmed. Is
if he knew it was gonna happen, and they started
booing him even more. I'm not necessarily a Popovitch fan.
I mean, he is one hell of a curmudgeon, and
so he proved it again tonight. So I don't know
what he was hoping to try to accomplish, but I
don't think it worked.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, would Yeah, you know. Part of it is it
helped get the crowd a little bit more riled up, right,
because you're a media action, so maybe he thought they
were a little too passive. The other is, I mean
it was good to see that that part of Popovich
is still there because he seemed too damn happy since
Victor Wembyama came in and you know, kept him around
the NBA for another few years now.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
If I'm not mistaken, guys, didn't Kawhi Leonard helped San
Antonio win a title in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
No, that's forever ago. Well, for excuse me, says the
guy who Bears. It's not eighteen eighty five, and I'm
still waiting for the gift list that comes out from
the different sports radio hosts saying, hey, here's the ten
Bears books that you need to buy this holiday. Season
and it's all nineteen eighty five retrospectives. Hey, here's more

(33:15):
stories I forgot to put in my last book.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Well, listen, you're talking about one of the most iconic
teams of all time. They've got a hall pass forever
with the printing money baby, the Super Bowl shuffle Baby,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And then they went out and lost to Miami.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Well okay, and all those crotchety old men on the
sideline that hadn't done a damn thing since seventy two
were happy.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
They still get to celebrate every year they do. And
you got a hold on you gotta find your wins,
like I always tell you, Bernie.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Now, that's good to wisdom, but there is a plenty
of diminishing returns if you're mere Cury Morris and living
off fifty years ago. I love you well, living in
a note and I really love you. But you can't
take away what they did seventeen. Oh no, they did
it with a backup quarterback, and they're happy every year
nobody loses. But back to Greg Popovich, back to Kawhi Leonard.
You know, look, fans are fans, like Martin says, this

(34:08):
is who they are. That's okay, you buy a ticket
as long as you're not breaking the law. This is
the biggest bar night right of the year mistake. And
so you gotta figure half those folks been hooked up
to a blender since noon. They walk into the stadium
there is it a stadium, whatever the hell you want
to call it an arena, and they're half lit and
they're having fun and it's Kawhi Leonard and they have

(34:28):
to care enough of walk Kawhi Leonard to boom right,
No one's booming Billy Pultz when he returns. So the
long and short of is this that Popovich was grandstanding
and at the end of the day at backfired. And oh,
by the way, why ya boo Kawhi? Remember he helped
lead the franchise to an NBA title in twenty fourteen,
But what.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Has he done for me lately? I do like that
you invoke the old Hey fans, don't boo nobody's quote
along Jo Way, He's Bernie praanaway for Jason Smith. I'm
Mike Harmon here Fox Sports Radio on a Thanksgiving Eve
full of NB information, but one quarterback that I've got
to issue an apology for. And two I've been using
a line kind of talking about the end of his career,

(35:09):
and now it turns out it's not a joke. It
really was true. Who is it and what am I
talking about? I'll explain next. It's Bernie in for Jason,
I'll Mike and this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Clubs still open here Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Tonight back next week
off on his sowar Jarn. I do know he is alive.
He texted me a couple of pictures from a five
below when he was looking at Funko products, and one
of them was well Chuck holding Wilson from Castaway that

(35:54):
he was debating buying for five dollars. Bernie. I told him, you.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Know that it was a great Tom Hanks movie, and
it had the distinction of having forty two consecutive minutes
without a single word of dialogue spoken and they pulled
it off.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, he'll do that, right, Tom Hanks.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
It was a great movie.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
And now he rules the playtone galaxies and he gets
a cut of every time that the Mama Mea Musical
does its thing. Really, they helped produce that when it
first got started, and then they helped produce the movies,
so they're printing money on right. Yeah there you go. Yeah,
very good. I celebrate the entire catalog.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
You've very eclectic.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You've heard right. I got problems, but you know, every
once in a while it comes in useful here on
fosh Worts Radio, no question about it, having all those
little data points rolling around in the domes, and it
is so huge. Hence the at Swollen Dome. Moniker tried
to fit me and frame me up with graphics way
back in the day. There's your dime store tour of

(36:59):
what goes on in my head. Hey, did you know
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all right. So I have to apologize to well future

(37:23):
Hall of Famer Drew Brees because I've often used him
as when citing examples when quarterbacks are having trouble with
middle to deep balls of you know, it's like when
Drew Brees was at the end of his career and
his arm was falling off. And now he confirmed in
an interview he did with ESPN that I'll let you

(37:43):
in on a little fact. He said, I don't throw
it with my right arm anymore. My right arm doesn't work.
So when I throw in the backyard right now, I
throw left handed now. As a guy who when the
Super Bowl was set up here in Los Angeles, you know,
we had a big area behind our stage Ernie, and
we had the big Fox Sports radio banners and you know,

(38:03):
all the luminaries coming in and behind it, we had
a nice little corridor where we could play catch and
play some grab ass, and we tried to throw around
to nerve football. I don't know what I've done with
my shoulder other than flipping my daughters in the pool
as they grew up and all that stuff. My shoulder
doesn't work anymore either. So I tried to throw a
ball and it's slumped, and it was visibly noticeably lower

(38:26):
on the left side than the right, and most mornings,
I wake up feeling like I've been, you know, sacked
multiple times by Terry Tait off his lineback.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
Go.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I still had Super Bowl. I still had that jersey
hanging up in my closet. No, unfortunately it's not commercial warned.
But for a while that was a pretty big deal.
You killed the joe, you make some move, But you
know Grees had to shoulder injury with when he was
with the Chargers, went through the long career and but
down the stretch we we know it was short and

(38:59):
internmat it passes all timing patterns and the occasional deep
ball to a Devorie Henderson or insert third receiver here.
But now I owe him the apology because I've traded
on those lines for a while and it doesn't work.
And it just goes to show. Look, it's not all
about necessarily what's between the ears, and we've certainly had
enough movies and breakdowns of that. But going back to

(39:22):
what happens to the rest of these guys' bodies along
the way right Peyton Manning and the next surgeries and
going on down Earl Campbell. You add it all up,
You've got guys and it becomes a walking game of operation.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Well Mark Twain said it best never complain about getting older.
Many fine people are denied the privilege. And nobody beats
Father Time on gravity, whether you're throwing a Nerf ball
into Super Bowl or whether you're trying to play in
the NFL. But there's an interesting backstory here, and had
Drew Brees not dislocated his right shoulder, and even Torres
Labrahm back in twenty h five when he was San

(39:58):
Diego Nick Saban and never gone to Alabama, that is
right when he had I've defended Nick for years. Christmas
A twenty six he said, I'm not going to Alabama.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Well, Breeze is on the way, but he flunked the physical.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
So two days later he went to Wayne Heyzingis house
and said, I can't coach without my quarterback. And he
went to Alabama and Breeze went to New Orleans and
the rest is history. But eventually this injury was going
to catch.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Up with him. Dante Colepepper, there you go, That's that's
where it rolls.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I covered him.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
He was beaten out by Matt Stafford the last day
of training camp and No. Nine and Colepepper stormed out
of practice without saying goodbye to anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Oh it was an Irish goodbye, people say. People say,
if you leave parties that way, you save up to
two days on your life.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Well, I love, I mean you'd be in heaven half
an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
See there you go, and you already grabbed what's on
my tombstone. He's Bernie Pratto in for Jason Smith on
Mike Carmon. Coming up next, we take our turn back
into the college football realm and another coach talking edil
you to hear this quote. It's great. It's Bernie, it's Mike,
it's Fox Sports Radio.

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